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Speaker 1: What's up, guys. Welcome into a brand new episode of

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Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly. Chris Hary with you as always met Money

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Speaker 1: Smith joins me in and listen, even on vacation. I

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Speaker 1: think this shows his dedication the Chargers fans. It is

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Speaker 1: five thirty in the morning, Hawaiian time. Money's about to

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Speaker 1: hit the ways, but first he wanted to talk to

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Speaker 1: you guys. Appreciate you coming in that early. Brothers absolutely, Brady, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's five thirty. I got up at about three

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Speaker 1: thirty because that's six thirty of course to civic for

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Speaker 1: three hours back here. But sun comes out. Sun's coming

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Speaker 1: up right about now. You can kind of see it

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Speaker 1: behind me, and we'll get a nice sun rise for

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Speaker 1: the folks that they're watching. But yeah, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: out in the wave, hopefully in the next hour or so,

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Speaker 1: and probably be out there all day. So stoked to

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Speaker 1: do this, though I miss last week. Obviously we had

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Speaker 1: the NFL Network Summit, so I was busy doing that

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Speaker 1: all day, but obviously watched the episode with everyone. It

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Speaker 1: was fantastic, and you know what, I wasn't missed, So

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Speaker 1: hopefully I'll make up for here. Chris, You're always missed

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Speaker 1: the birds chirp and two man like, I feel like

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Speaker 1: we should just not talk, let the birds chirp and

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Speaker 1: let people get like a Hawaiian like morning pod. You

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Speaker 1: know someone old. Absolutely, Hey, uh so we missed you

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Speaker 1: last week. First the NFL Media Summit, I saw the

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Speaker 1: photo that you like into like the the head coach photo.

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Speaker 1: It was you in Kyle in the corner. I appreciated

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Speaker 1: that that segment of the photo I think the most. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one before that, but they had they had Jenny Garth

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Speaker 1: and Tori Spelling as guests to talk about podcasts and

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Speaker 1: like using your celebrity to run a podcast kind of

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Speaker 1: one when they were included freaking Shaun O'Hara puts funny

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Speaker 1: years behind my head. I'm like, Shaun, it's like a time,

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Speaker 1: you know, freaking class bully man. Guy's a giant six four,

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Speaker 1: and freaking humiliating. It's fun though, you know what Jenny

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Speaker 1: Garth and Tory Spotted to do a double take. Man,

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Speaker 1: it brings me back to like growing up in middle school.

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Speaker 1: It was really weird when they were like, hey, we

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Speaker 1: brought some celebrities to help kind of you know, work

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Speaker 1: you through the idea of being a celebrity and using

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Speaker 1: your celebrity to start a podcast. So here's Jenny Garth

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Speaker 1: and Tory spotting who do MG. I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this should be interesting. It was, but it was cool.

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Speaker 1: They were cool. So last week we talked about mini

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Speaker 1: camp and everyone who spoke and kind of takeaways. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you got to brush up on all that was said.

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Speaker 1: Anything stand out to you from last week? Uh, you

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Speaker 1: know regards Joey and Khalil and Justin coach talking. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think the biggest thing and we've been

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Speaker 1: talking about it through all these podcasts Risk, but just

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Speaker 1: the speed of Justin and you know, that seemed to

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Speaker 1: Like they ran that that clip of him. You know,

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Speaker 1: it is And here's someone who doesn't have to totally

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Speaker 1: verbiage and positioning and trying to get comfortable on the

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Speaker 1: huddle for him to be able to just to execute plays.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna it's gonna go such a long way,

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Speaker 1: you know, for someone who's that bright, you know, that committed.

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Speaker 1: That was the other thing that came out, you know,

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Speaker 1: him saying this is my vaca. I don't need vacation.

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Speaker 1: My vacations football and I you know, so guys, it's like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: But for Justin that's true. Man, we know it. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're around him. So that I thought those are two

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Speaker 1: good takeaways. Look, I'll tell you I think one of

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Speaker 1: the things that and it's way too early to do this,

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Speaker 1: but I know ESPN did with Lindsay and not trying to,

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Speaker 1: But I mean there were there were two glaring names

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Speaker 1: Joey and Khalil, they all spoke to it. Yeah they did.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we talked about this last week, just

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Speaker 1: don't know where it's gonna come from. But that position

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Speaker 1: group specifically, you speak to competition, like I think Bernaldo

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this Kyle van Noy, you know, versatility, super

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Speaker 1: of get the sense that that's the type of roster

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Speaker 1: I was thinking earlier this week, there's so much star

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Speaker 1: not developing Tray and you're not developing Highmas and you're

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Speaker 1: when it comes to a player like sal You're getting

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Speaker 1: with Davante Adams and Darren Waller and Hunter Renfro and

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Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton and you know in the list goes on

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Speaker 1: and on, like you gotta trust those two guys. So

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Speaker 1: if Woods can come out of training camp with the

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Speaker 1: coaching staffs trust, yes, that also changes the way they

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Speaker 1: can play defense. Also, Nas, if Nas can take another

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Speaker 1: leap to in this program. And it's so encouraging to

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Speaker 1: hear his name throughout these offseason workouts last year and

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Speaker 1: this year. I remember Ronold the Hill last year is saying,

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Speaker 1: you know Nas is in the room, he's engaged, he's

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Speaker 1: you know, he's the smartest guy in terms of like

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Speaker 1: picking things out, questions that are being asked, and coach

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Speaker 1: Daley mentioned that he caught the eye of him and

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Speaker 1: the staff along with Jalen Guyton is kind of two

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Speaker 1: under the radar guys. So I think NAS and JT

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Speaker 1: probably equally as important. And this list, guys, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm assuming Zion Johnson is everything you know. We

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Speaker 1: talked to Rick Saratella. It's saying that this is the

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Speaker 1: plagy and play guy. Everything that you know we hear,

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Speaker 1: so like you know, Khalil mac Joey Bosa, Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: of course. The fifth guy I have on this list, Bunny,

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Speaker 1: and I want to get your reaction and see any

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Speaker 1: anybody else you would add to this. The fifth guy

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Speaker 1: I have is DeAndre Carter and it's a because of

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Speaker 1: the special teams in impacting the game there as a

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Speaker 1: kick returner, but potentially as the fifth wide receiver too,

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Speaker 1: so you don't have to carry an extra wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: He had three touchdowns last year on offense. I think

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Speaker 1: he caught like twenty four balls, and yeah, Tom Telesco

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Speaker 1: talked about the fact that he played wide receiver in Washington,

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Speaker 1: so you know, you didn't really get that from Andre Roberts.

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Speaker 1: You got some Jet suits and things like that every

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Speaker 1: once in a while. But if DeAndre Carter can replicate

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Speaker 1: what he did on special teams last year, then add

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Speaker 1: a little bit of juice in the passing game. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a numbers game. We talk about, you know, figuring

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Speaker 1: out that fifty three man roster. If he's your fifth

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, maybe that opens up another spot. Would agree

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Speaker 1: with that, especially just in the return game, you know,

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Speaker 1: to get that. We saw what Andre Roberts did when

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Speaker 1: he got a couple of those big returns and pop them.

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Speaker 1: It just it chooses the team unlike anything else, especially

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Speaker 1: if it's the opening kickoff right and you can return that,

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Speaker 1: or if the defense has gone out there you win

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Speaker 1: the coin toss, you defer your force a three and out,

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Speaker 1: you know, so the team's backed up inside their own

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Speaker 1: twentiers or whatever it is, twenty five and now you've

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Speaker 1: got a punt returner that pops for ten fifteen yards

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Speaker 1: and your team is starting at their own thirty five

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Speaker 1: forty like that. Just it's so important, and we saw

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Speaker 1: it last year how different it felt. And also I

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Speaker 1: think just speaking to those Jets suites, clearly, Joe Lombardy

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Speaker 1: likes to use them. So to have a guy that

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Speaker 1: has that kind of speed to be able to be

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Speaker 1: that player and like you said, to fill that role

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Speaker 1: because Roberts could not do that as a wide racism

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Speaker 1: as a full route you know, running wide receiver DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Carter has some value there. So yeah, that helps with

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Speaker 1: a spot and then you know, just to add to that,

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Speaker 1: I think you can take that the specialists. You know,

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Speaker 1: I would put the specialists in there, including Dustin Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: you know, so I think J K. Scott, Dustin Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Carter. It's such an important facet of a championship

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Speaker 1: level team. I think you look at you know, there's

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Speaker 1: there's a reason you look at the Rams right and

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Speaker 1: look how important field goals and punts were. Now, granted,

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Speaker 1: got a little sideways, I'm at Gay there in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs for a minute, but when he had to make

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Speaker 1: the game winning kick, he made the game winning kick.

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Speaker 1: I mean, my gosh, look at the Bengals for goodness sakes.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you want to talk about how important special

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Speaker 1: teams are, so, you know, I think that's exactly So

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Speaker 1: I think that's to me, it's those three guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: as Hopkins. They signed him to the extension. Is he

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Speaker 1: you know, he missed the one fifty yard or whatever

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Speaker 1: against the Raiders badly. It's like, you know, do you

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Speaker 1: have a kicker you trust and you trust from fifty

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Speaker 1: five in when you gotta have it? I think that's

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Speaker 1: something we got to see from Dustin is sort of

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Speaker 1: that extra seven yards. You know, let's get outside of

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Speaker 1: forty eight, Let's get to fifty five, because that's where

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Speaker 1: guys are making him from now. So you know, there's

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Speaker 1: that especially so five with the conditions and how perfect

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Speaker 1: they are. You know, if you're in these AFC West

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Speaker 1: Division game battles and you got to have a fifty

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Speaker 1: five fifty seven to win it. I know I'm saying

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Speaker 1: it like it's a chip shot field Golba. Look that's

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Speaker 1: what guys are doing now. So like to me, he

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Speaker 1: falls in that category obviously. J K. Scott with the

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Speaker 1: issues we've had with punt you know, with with punt

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Speaker 1: return and I'm sorry with punt coverage, like that's a

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Speaker 1: big one too. And talking to some people from the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: you know, these last couple events I've been out at,

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Speaker 1: they're really excited about them. Um, you know that that

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Speaker 1: this is someone. They were like, WHOA, Okay, we got

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Speaker 1: a guy. So you know that's those three guys to me,

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Speaker 1: can all be can all be lumped together and sort

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Speaker 1: of one? Hey? Can we get the specialist to be

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Speaker 1: what their name is? Special? If we miss anybody, guys,

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Speaker 1: put it in the comments on YouTube? Money. Is there

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Speaker 1: anything you want to add? The sun is coming up.

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Speaker 1: It's time for you to get into one. Brother. I

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Speaker 1: even I can hear the waves. Is there anything else

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Speaker 1: you want to talk about it? You just want to

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Speaker 1: get in the water right now? Oh? I do just

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Speaker 1: want to get in the water right now. But I

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Speaker 1: would uh, I would add one more And I think

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Speaker 1: it's and we've talked about him a lot, so it's

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Speaker 1: not like we've got to go super deep on him.

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Speaker 1: But it's Drew Tranquil. You know. I think when you

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Speaker 1: talk about the fronts that that Brandon Staley wants to

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Speaker 1: run and having one linebacker on the field only you know,

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Speaker 1: that's that's going to be important, you know, And I

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Speaker 1: think of all the linebackers, he's the one. So if

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Speaker 1: he takes that next step, you know, if he's ready

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Speaker 1: to be you know that guy who can diagnose at ten.

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Speaker 1: He's so good at that. If you watch film and Drew,

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Speaker 1: you see when he figures you know, he figures it

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Speaker 1: out and he's there. I mean, it's it is a

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Speaker 1: split second. Nobody is at that point of you know,

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Speaker 1: at that point of the play where it's developing, like

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Speaker 1: Drew on this team. So I think that's a real

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Speaker 1: important one because we know it's been health you know,

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Speaker 1: and I'm hoping this offseason has been good to him

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Speaker 1: and that he can stay healthy, because I think that

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Speaker 1: ends up going a long way if he's the one

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Speaker 1: guy that's going to be out there. He's been killing

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Speaker 1: the podcast game, yead. Coach Staley has yeah, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: so this was his last guest exactly. The coaching Stephan

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Speaker 1: Drew have a good relationship at this point. No, certainly, certainly,

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting for my invite. I'm sure I could add

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Speaker 1: some really compelling conversation to what he's doing with coach

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Speaker 1: and just then and yeah, he's got the A list going.

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Speaker 1: You got stuck with me, Chris, No, I want to

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Speaker 1: I'm keeping you here, bro, You're not going on another podcast.

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Speaker 1: You got the best backdrop of twenty twenty two. Right

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Speaker 1: behind there we go amazing, exactly right, Go go get

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Speaker 1: in the water man, Chargers fans, thank Money for coming

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Speaker 1: on at five thirty in the morning Hawaiian time. All

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Speaker 1: good man breaking down the Chargers here as we hit

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Speaker 1: the offseason for money. I'm Chris. This has been Chargers Weekly.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next Thursday. Huddle