1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on? Everybody's John Middlecoff. It's 2 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: a little weekend middle cop mail bag at John Middlecoff. 3 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: At John middlecof is the Instagram. Fire in those dms 4 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: and get your question answered here on the show. Draft 5 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: week is upcoming, so we need to dial in a 6 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: lot going on. I went to dinner. What day is that? 7 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm recording this on saying I went to dinner on 8 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: Friday night and kind of went downtown old town Scottsdale. 9 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: And sometimes, you know, take a cab or an uber, 10 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: but in Scottsdale they have these golf carts that basically 11 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: operate as ubers or taxis, and you know, for the 12 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: right price, they'll take you a pretty long way. And 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: you know, I've had a few and I was like, oh, 14 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: take us home. So we've got a golf cart ride home. 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: And the guy had a Philly a Phillies hat on, 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: and so he drops us off. I started bsing with 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: him and I clearly you know he's from Philadelphia, South 18 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: Philadelphia born and raised. This is what he told me. 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: And he's a diart Eagles fan and he's like, did 20 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: you hear the news? I said, what's the news? He's like, 21 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is coming to the Eagles. I said, what 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 1: when did this happen? Now? I woke up this morning 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: and check the internet streets, and I don't think it's 24 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: official yet, but there are some rumors out there that 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry could be headed to the Birds, which listen 26 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, I would imagine if you're listening to this 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: has already gone down. It's definitely a big headlining trade. 28 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that the Eagles would pay much, given 29 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: that he makes a decent amount of money. Plus he's 30 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: an older running back with a lot of tread on 31 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: his tires, But that would be a pretty This is 32 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Man, Howie Roseman's always in the mix. 33 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: He is one of the big time wheelers and dealers 34 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL. That would it feels like there'd be 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: their fiftieth Alabama player. But if that trade goes down, 36 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: I also think that would take them out of No. B. 37 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: John Robinson obviously in the first round. If they're going 38 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: to trade for Henry, which most people and trust me, 39 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: I've seen it like they don't. They have fundamental beliefs 40 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: about draft hierarchies and a lot of teams do like 41 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: that they're not taking running backs and they're not taking 42 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: linebackers in the first round. Now I disagree sometimes with 43 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: that sentiment when it comes to linebackers. You know, if 44 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: I can get Luke Keighley in the first round. Though 45 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: when I was with the Eagles, we would have drafted 46 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: Luke Keighley. But you know, when I can get game 47 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: changing middle linebackers, and I believe this to my core 48 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: now in twenty twenty three, those guys should be rated 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: higher on their positional value in the league. Say the 50 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: same thing about tight ends. If I can get Kelsey 51 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: or I can get Kittle like in the first round, 52 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm not hesitating doing that. And I think linebackers and 53 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: tight ends are just underpaid. Their financial compensation does not 54 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: equal their value when they're a really good player. I mean, 55 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: I see it with Fred Warner. He makes every tackle 56 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: in the run game and he can cover, so it's like, 57 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: what can he not do? You know? He literally impacts 58 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: the game on every snap. You can throw wheel routes, 59 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: he can make the tackle. You can run it inside 60 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: or outside, he can make the tackle. He can carry 61 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: the tight end down the field. He literally plays every 62 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: single element of the sport, right, So but the Eagles 63 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: They're just not gonna mess with that. And I would say, 64 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: if that trade goes down and we're you know a 65 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: lot of rumors are flying around, so we will see. 66 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: But ultimately ultimately yeah, I mean, it's gonna be a 67 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: fascinating me some stuff going down this week, which is 68 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: which is always fun. Leading into Thursday, we still don't 69 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: have Aaron Rodgers. Who I mean, this guy ever gonna 70 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: get traded? I mean, what are we what are we 71 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: waiting on now? I've been saying it's gonna happen on 72 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: Thursday or Friday, but I just wish it would would 73 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: take place. But who knows, maybe Trey Lance gets traded, 74 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: So just buckle up. It should be a fun week. 75 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Started listening to the show a couple months ago and 76 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: would love to chime into the mail bag for the 77 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: first time. I'm from Alameda and a huge baseball guy, 78 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 1: so obviously it leads me to being an ACE fan 79 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: bummed about the news. Would love to hear your take 80 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: on it all. I personally don't see why Major League 81 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Baseball would want to put ownership group as that one 82 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: to bring into baseball to Vegas also don't understand the 83 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: twenty year saga claims if finding an endpoint to a 84 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: stadium was a priority, they should have known. The Giants 85 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: weren't gonna give San Jose area back on a silver platter. 86 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: Why make the A's Oakland plan essential building an entire 87 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: new city of twelve bill? Okay, well, this is here's 88 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: a reality. Oakland's a dumb I mean it really is not. 89 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: In a million years, and I mean a million years. 90 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: If you could choose in the last ten years to 91 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: put a team somewhere basketball, baseball, or football, would you 92 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: put it into Oakland? Now, A lot of people where 93 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: I come from, a lot of people would be strong. 94 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: I've always said this, and listen, Oakland guy gets very 95 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: very mad. The ratio Niners to Raiders would be a 96 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: little higher, but the ratio of Giants two A's it's 97 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: like ninety eight to two if you just pull one 98 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: hundred people in northern California. The Raiders is a little 99 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: different because of football, but it's still closer to ninety 100 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: to ten than it is fifty to fifty. And I 101 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: think the Oakland teams. The other thing is one thing 102 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: that turns off sports fans. That's just exhausting that I 103 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: think probably resonated more back in the day in the sixties, seventies, 104 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: eighties when the money was a lot different. Obviously certain 105 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: owners had more money. If you're constantly playing that we 106 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: don't have enough money card, it's like, yeah, I don't 107 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: have time. That is that's such a loser thing to 108 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: just constantly talk about, right in this big business world 109 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: that is pro sports. And I just think that they 110 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: have lost so many fans over the years. Think about 111 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: in Oakland, like where I come from, we always made 112 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: fun of those politicians, just complete loser, I mean in 113 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: that little area. So basically they have lost three teams 114 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: in seven or eight year span. Now Joe lacub just 115 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: moved the team down the road. Mark Davis left and 116 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: obviously the A's are going to go to to Vegas, 117 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: and overall, Vegas should have all four teams. It's one. 118 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: It's just an area that should have all four teams 119 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: and Oakland should have none. So it's sad the way 120 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: it goes if you're a fan. But for those of 121 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: people that are not, I would say emotionally invested, they 122 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: got it right. Like the Las Vegas should have an 123 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: NFL team, should have a basketball team, should have a 124 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: baseball team, should have a hockey team. It's it's meant 125 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: for that, right, just like the Bay Area has all 126 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: four got the Raiders, or excuse me, got the Niners, 127 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: got the Giants, got the Warriors, and got the Sharks. 128 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: It's fine. You could argue LA is a little overpopulated, 129 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: like they don't need the Chargers. The Chargers would be 130 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: fine just being still in San Diego, right, They don't 131 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: need the Angels. If you said the Angels were in Nashville, 132 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: no one would notice, you know. And I think sometimes 133 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: in certain markets, like Chicago is technically big enough to 134 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: have all these teams. But you know, they got the Bears, 135 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: they got the Balls, you know they got the Blackhawks. 136 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: They have two baseball teams. But anyone that lives in 137 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: Chicago knows what's the ratio of Cubs the White SOWX 138 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: seems pretty big. As someone I've never been in Chicago, 139 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: but you know, I think it's fair to say, if 140 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: you're a knowledgeable sports fan, seems pretty one sided. Cubs heavy, right, 141 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: And I just think that, you know, it's a weird way, 142 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: but the ultimate result of them leaving is the right 143 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: thing because they can't survive in Oakland. No one can 144 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: because you financially, all the money goes to the San 145 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: Francisco teams. Question for the mailbag, Let's say you're an 146 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: outstanding college quarterback like Luck or Lawrence, but you didn't 147 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: want to get drafted by a bad team. Could you 148 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: see a player for go the draft and then just 149 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: sign with the team after, maybe even after, maybe even 150 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: for more money or is it a rule that you 151 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: must be in the draft to play for the NFL team? Also, 152 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: what percentage of NFL players actually earned a degree before 153 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: they were drafted. Is this something that scouts look for. 154 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: It seems to me that would be a big plus 155 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: if a player actually went to class and didn't work 156 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: to get a degree like Herbert or I'm sure you know, 157 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: four point zero student biology major. Love the show, keep 158 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: up the great work. Well, you know, this is where 159 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: i'd push back on the academia elites. As a scout. 160 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: When you go through you know, you talk to academic advisors, 161 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: so they tell you he's graduated. And let's face it, 162 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: a lot of seniors that go in the draft, especially 163 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: if they redshirted, have graduated I would say, this is 164 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: a complete guest amate. I could text some people with 165 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: a thoutd percent. I would say, of seniors in an 166 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: NFL draft, guys that get drafted that are seniors seventy 167 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: five to eighty percent graduate. I mean it's pretty high now. Obviously, 168 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: earlier in rounds, some of the underclassmen, right, like Jamar Chase, 169 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: Maybe he did or didn't, but it's much harder when 170 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: you're a three year junior. Right, You're probably not going 171 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: to graduate, but no one holds that against you. Right, 172 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: would you leave? If I was at cal Pauly in 173 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: my junior year and someone's like, hey, you are great 174 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: at doing X. Here is forty million dollars, I would say, seeya, right, 175 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: And I think we could have a whole nother Listen, 176 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: I got multiple degrees. I got an undergraduate degree, I 177 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: got a graduate degree, and they were technically meaningful because 178 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: I needed it to get to Fresno State. But the 179 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: ultimate degrees in class are kind of meaningless, like the 180 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: actual information I learned in school, for the most part, 181 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: I think is pretty irrelevant to my life. Now, we 182 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: could have the argument there's something about sticking it out 183 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: and being disciplined on your own. I think there is 184 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: value in everything. But ultimately, like I think, as we 185 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: go on in society separate from the NFL, what does 186 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: a degree really mean? I mean, a lot of people 187 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: have degrees all over the country right now can't get 188 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: a fucking job, and rightfully so, because that degree, i'd argue, 189 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: is pretty meaningless, Like I don't know what I'm supposed 190 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: to value that thing as where in previous generations maybe 191 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: it had more value now obviously certain degrees engineering, whatever. 192 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: But back to your question about football, Yeah, you find 193 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: that information out and in meetings when you're talking about 194 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: the player, right, he graduated or he's not graduating, or 195 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: he's a bad student. But like I've said before, you 196 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: could be a terrible student, right, terrible student. But what 197 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: if you learn football really well? And I wasn't a 198 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: great student because it bored me, what didn't interest me? 199 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: So if school doesn't interest you, but you're really good 200 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: at something, who really cares? Right? Mark Zuckerberg never graduated. 201 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: And I understand like guys like jobs and those guys 202 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: are outliers. But my point is, like whether I graduated 203 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: college or not, for example, when you're listening to this, 204 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: Does it change your opinion? Like if I said, hey, 205 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: I never graduated college, I dropped out, would you think 206 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: about me differently? Maybe you would, maybe you wouldn't care. 207 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: But it never comes up in most of our jobs, right, 208 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: you know? The one thing you realize the older you 209 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: get is like, you need to get good grades in college. 210 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: Why who checks your fucking transcripts? Maybe some jobs do, 211 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: and obviously and again law school. There are certain jobs 212 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: and occupations that are different than others. But I would 213 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: say football is pretty different where no one's checking your transcripts. 214 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: As long as you're academically eligible and you're playing football, 215 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: we judge you off football. Now if you're a bad student, 216 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: because let's just say you're legitimately not a smart guy, 217 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: and you also don't learn football very well, that's a problem. Right, 218 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: If you can't learn football, then that is a problem. 219 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: But what if there have been guys that probably are 220 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: smart academically who struggle with football intelligence. So it goes 221 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: both ways. It's a fascinating conversation. I tend to lean 222 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: kind of anti academia because I'm not a big like 223 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: theory guy, even though I do like theories. My point 224 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: is the way college is all about, like, well, if 225 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: you do this, this happens like now, that's not really 226 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: the way it happens in the trenches of the real world, 227 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: like sit down, you know, try to make a sale. 228 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: Anyone listening to this is in sales, Like you thinking seller, 229 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: you can't, No one's They might teach you some techniques 230 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: and listen, you could argue, like a sales degree, I 231 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: just teach you how to sell. I don't think we 232 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: had that at cal Pauly. Some of you listening might 233 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: have had degrees that are focusing that that actually has 234 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: some validity, right, that that actually has some real life use. 235 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: If just the whole degree is about selling, Like, why 236 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: would I ever There were so many and I don't 237 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: know why I'm going off on this tangent, but so 238 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: many classes I had to take to before you could 239 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: start taking your business major courses or whatever your major is. 240 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: I know at my school that were like under prerecs 241 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: that were like biology that were you know, socios I 242 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: had to take. I had to take some random chemistry. 243 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: It's like, why am I taking these classes? I'm not 244 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: going to be a doctor scientists here. I'm pro you know, listen. 245 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: Pro education to a point sounds like a very negative 246 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: on school. It's you know, school never did it for me. 247 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: I like school, you know, cause I can see my 248 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: friends be around girls, but you know, I was the guy. 249 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: This sounds so outdated. I never went to a college 250 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: class up the school newspaper. I wonder if school newspapers 251 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: even exist in this digital time. The Mustang Daily went 252 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: with me everywhere, crossword puzzles, reading articles about uh whatever. 253 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: Your boy actually had an article a senior year called 254 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: Johnny in the Box sub brother question for the pod. 255 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: Are you really buying that? Anthea Richardson will go in 256 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: the top five in the draft this year. Last year, 257 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: the media made this huge deal of Malik Willis and 258 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: how he would go in the top ten of the 259 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: draft and would trade up for him, and he ended 260 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: up going to the third round of the Titans. Just 261 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: sounds like the same type hype. I think the hype's 262 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: a little different. I think the hype on Anthony Richards's 263 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: a little different one. You know, Anthony Richardson had game 264 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: against Utah, who is one of the better programs in 265 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: the country, that was remarkable. So we saw his highest 266 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: end against a top ten program in a bright light spot. Now, 267 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: clearly that's the best game of his career. He also 268 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: played at Florida, which say what you want just has more. 269 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: You know, I would say support when making an argument, 270 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: but there is and this is the hard thing, right. 271 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: I remember last year talking to people about Malik Willis, 272 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: and I think Malik Willis was definitely a hyped up guy. 273 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: I think Anthony Richardson, while there is hype behind him, 274 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: there is a level of intrigue and universal acceptance that 275 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: if this works, he could be a star. And when 276 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: I say star, like he could just be like game 277 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: changing starting quarterback. I guess probably the way to put it. 278 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if people ever viewed Malik Willis that way. 279 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: I think Malik Willis was much more media driven than 280 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: Ante that Richardson is equal. Like, people are very very 281 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: intrigued in the league, right, and I think that's a 282 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: bit like Anthony Richson's value was not very high in 283 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: the NFL. Excuse me, sorry, Malik Willis's wasn't its proven out. 284 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: I do think that Anthony Richson I could be wrong. 285 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: Like if we look up and he goes pick twenty eight, 286 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: then clearly I'm wrong here, and I don't pretend to 287 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: by any means. Know every guy with every team, I 288 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: probably know, you know, I could reach out to a 289 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: quarter of the teams, right, So I'm getting a sample 290 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: size from individuals. I do think it's fair to say, though, 291 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: that Anthony Richardson is held in much higher esteem than 292 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: Malik Willis. But I hear you, I hear you. I 293 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: think that's you know, that's the hard part about this 294 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: time of year is quite knowing what's true what's not. 295 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: Like I said, the media kind of can get their 296 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: own opinions on stuff, and for those I mean the 297 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: overwhel majority of people, it's not like they can just 298 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: call a GM like you know. I saw this on 299 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: NFL Live. Is this true? And the guy like no, 300 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: I have never heard that before in my life. As 301 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: a Steelers fan from Dallas with questions about the Texans, 302 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: I heard on Collins Show that he assumes that Houston 303 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: might pass on CJ. Strout for Will Anderson and waiting 304 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: on a quarterback potentially next year. Can you see them 305 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: taking will Levis if available with one of their second 306 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: first round picks twelfth overall or do they have bigger 307 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: holes to fill. You know, I think it all gets 308 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: back to Damico Ryans, and I think the way that 309 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: he saw Kyle Shanahan kind of go slow burn build 310 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: up the team. You know, it's hard because the argument 311 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: is like, well, who you going to roll into the 312 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: season with your quarterbacks? Like, look at your quarterback roster. 313 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: It's what's his name from Stanford? I wanted to say 314 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: Tanner McKee, but it's Davis Mills. Did they sign case Keenam? 315 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: I mean they're their quarterbacks. Can you roll into a 316 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: like that and not have everyone mad? Or can you 317 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: just roll into a season with all these young players 318 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: kind of continue to bottom out and then next year 319 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: try to get a quarterback. I do think it's hard 320 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: to go, well, next year we'll get Caleb Williams or 321 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: Drake May. What if Tomiico's just really good even with 322 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: case Keenum or Davis Mills and you end up winning 323 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: six games, you draft seventh and you just don't have 324 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: access to either one of those quarterbacks Like that, that's 325 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: very very possible, Like that can happen, Things change, So 326 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: I think it's very it's borderline impossible to go we're 327 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: gonna do this. I mean, we thought the Texans were 328 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: gonna get the number one pick the entire season, and 329 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: what happened They ended up getting the second pick. And 330 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: that was like in December, say, oh, the Texans are 331 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: getting the first pick. All of a sudden, we look 332 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: up when the season ends, like the Bears had the 333 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: number one overall pick. So I I think it's hard 334 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: to do that. Now, Will Levis. I heard dj On 335 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: with Rousillo say that rumors are that Will Levis and 336 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts, which which you know, does feel like 337 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: a Chris Ballard type guy. Shane Steichen. You know, I 338 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: think people go back and forth, like, look what he 339 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: just did with Look what he just did with Jalen Hurts. 340 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: He wants a more mobile, versatile quarterback. But I'm pretty 341 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: sure he also coached Philip Rivers, So you know, I 342 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: think sometimes we go this coach like this player. I 343 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, I think coaches like different type players. 344 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: We'll get Andy Reid. Andy drafted Donovan McNabb, a guy 345 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: that played Division I college basketball, physical freak on the 346 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: football field. Then he drafted Kevin Cobb, who was really 347 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: much more of a pocket quarterback. Then he got Michael 348 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: Vick then he traded for Alex Smith. He got Petrick Malomes. 349 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: So I think these guys only want no I don't. 350 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: I think most coaches are like who they view can 351 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: be the best quarterback. So I think Will Levis could 352 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: be long gone by twelve. Could be wrong here too. 353 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a weird draft because there's not true, 354 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: true star power, you know. I I think the quarterbacks 355 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: are semi famous, obviously CJ and Bryce, but it's just 356 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: it feels a little bit like it's missing, missing a 357 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: little juice. And part of that has to be no 358 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: star wide receivers, not as many just star players to 359 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: go along with the quarterbacks. And I think most people 360 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: think the quarterbacks are just major question marks. Now you 361 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: could argue that's most seasons. Here's a question that came 362 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: to the top of mind of the Jalen Hurts contract. 363 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: Take an NFL contract that you can get the details 364 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: on and describe how the players receive their money in 365 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: terms of dollars received and timing. I don't understand when 366 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: they get the signing bonus, what then happens with the 367 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: guaranteed portion of the money. Is it paid over time? 368 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: And then what annual amount does the player receive well 369 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: the signing bonus. Like if I let's just pick even numbers. 370 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: If I give you one hundred million dollar contract over 371 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: five years, so twenty million dollars a year, and I 372 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: could be wrong, like how you're been a progue be 373 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: like middle Colf, you're explaining this wrong. But I'm going 374 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: to try to explain it in the most basic of details. 375 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: So if I give you one hundred million dollars, if 376 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: you sign a hundred million dollar deal, fifty of it 377 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: is guaranteed and twenty million dollars signing bonus. So when 378 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: you sign the contract, I'm pretty sure it's within fourteen 379 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: days that twenty million dollars is coming into your account, 380 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: like right away. So whatever the signing bonus is, you 381 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: are getting up front or within some it maybe fourteen days, 382 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: it might be a month, but you are getting that 383 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: money basically immediately. So of the fifty million dollars guaranteed, 384 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: you've already received the twenty Now, the way I structure 385 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: the contract usually I push down cap hits for my 386 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: salary cap but I structure the money flow of what 387 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: you get differently, right, so that first year your base 388 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: salary might be five million dollars, even though your average 389 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: salary is twenty million dollars a year. So that season, 390 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: even you sign a five year, hundred million dollar contract, 391 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: you might only receive five million dollars throughout the season, 392 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: but I've already paid you twenty so at the end 393 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: of that year you will have twenty five million dollars. 394 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: And then usually on those contracts, the following year you're 395 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: on the roster, you are, you immediately get another kicker 396 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: of fifteen million dollars oh to you on the league 397 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: year or at September first. So the money flow situation 398 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: is all set up differently based on the contract. But 399 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: that guaranteed money, that true guaranteed money you get no 400 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: matter what. So whether they cut you the following year 401 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: and three years, you're getting. But the way the cash 402 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: is paid out throughout the season completely changes player to player. 403 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: It's why I always have such a hard time when 404 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: they go, well, Jalen's making fifty million dollars a year. 405 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: Actually he's not right. If you just did the math, 406 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: five years, two hundred and fifty two million, right, fifty 407 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: one million dollars a year, whatever the exact math is, 408 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: Because whatever he gets, I could be wrong on this, 409 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure he gets like sixty eight million 410 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: dollars over the first twelve months. So over the first 411 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: twelve months whatever is signing bonuses. I don't have the 412 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,719 Speaker 1: contract in front of me. He's getting that pretty quickly, 413 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: and then he'll get paid whatever a base salary is. 414 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: It could be ten, it could be five, it could 415 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: be fifteen, and that all factors into the guaranteed money. 416 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: But the thing with quarterbacks is if Jalen just stays 417 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: healthy and just play solid, he's going to see all 418 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: the money. You know. Where it gets more complicated is 419 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: like random players. Right, if I sign a guard and 420 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: to do a three year deal for twelve million dollars, 421 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: which most players are making way less than Jalen, and 422 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: I guarantee you two million dollars and your average salary 423 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: is four million dollars. But if you're on the roster 424 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: the second year, it basically guarantees your second year salary. 425 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: So that's how it's all kind of fudged. The guaranteed 426 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: money though, no matter what, whether you get injured, whether 427 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: they cut you, whether you get traded, you're getting so 428 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers last year, he signed whatever was it 429 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: three years, one hundred and fifty million dollars, so it's 430 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: like fifty million dollars a year. You know, he was 431 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: paid like eighty million dollars within the first year, and 432 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: he's owed what like sixty million dollars. It's September first 433 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: or whatever. Maybebe it was paid less than eighty million dollars, 434 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: but he will have made maybe it was eighty million 435 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: dollars over the first calendar year, so he didn't get 436 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: like fifty million dollars throughout the season, even though it's like, 437 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: well he makes fifty million dollars a year. No, it's 438 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: like you get these payments and then depending on what 439 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: you're they call it the paragraph five is just your 440 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: base salary. Right. It's why it's hard for us normal 441 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: humans to relate. If you're listening to this and you 442 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: make one hundred grand, right, you just get paid bi weekly. 443 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: You do the math, right, taxes and everything that That's 444 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: not how NFL contracts work, at least once you signed. Like, 445 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: look at these rookies right, like they're talking about Trey 446 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: Lance could get traded. Well, if you look at trailer, 447 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: it's his contract. You know, he makes like seven million 448 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: dollars eight million dollars nine million dollars ten million dollars 449 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: over his four year guaranteed contract. But when the forty 450 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: nine ers drafted him, he got a signing bonus. Again, 451 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: pulling this off the top of my head, I think 452 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: it was like twenty three million dollars. So he got 453 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 1: twenty three million dollars immediately. So he actually does not 454 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: get like seven eight nine million dollars throughout the season. 455 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: He gets whatever portion of that separate from amortot, you know, 456 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: separated from the signing bonus, because he's already been paid 457 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 1: up front. It's why, like the only true cash deals 458 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: when I franchise tag, you like last year lamar or 459 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: fifth year option ten million dollars twenty five million dollars, 460 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars true guarantee that's just paid. If you 461 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: get signed a twenty million dollar fifth year option or 462 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: a franchise tag. I'm just picking an even number that 463 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: is paid throughout the seventeen weeks of the season. It's 464 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: all guaranteed. Just divide it up over the over you know, 465 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: I guess eighteen weeks technically, because I think he get 466 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: paid over the buy That makes sense, but It's why 467 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: it's complicated when in the NBA or baseball, if I 468 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: sign Aaron Judge to whatever, ten years, three hundred million dollars, 469 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: I just pay him. Now, you can structure it a 470 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: little bit different. He gets thirty million dollars a year, right, 471 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't get like fifty million dollars up front. Even 472 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: though you know, you baseball fans know that some deals 473 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: are they put money into escrow, they pay over time. 474 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: But I'm just using you know, in baseball and basketball, 475 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: for the most part, I just pay you over the 476 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: period of your contract. That's why football, man, it's very 477 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: very complicated. Yo, bro is true. In a good golf 478 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: course in Scottsdale, what are your favorites in the Scottsdale area. 479 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: Truan is a good course, very expensive in the winter summer, 480 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: recommend it a little cheaper. It's hard, it's pretty tight. 481 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: But I enjoy both Truon courses. I don't think you 482 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: can ever go wrong. Truon Grey Awk obviously, TPC Scottsdale 483 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: Week of pal Ah, I think is how you say it? 484 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: Quintero out in the cuts, A couple of diamonds. I 485 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: got a couple of diamonds if you want to come 486 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: to the Phoenix Scottsdale area and not pay a boatload 487 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: of money to play golf, here are two courses that 488 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: are a little off the beaten path in like South 489 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: Phoenix that are just good, solid courses. I played yesterday 490 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: in a charity event. A neighbor invited me, and this course. 491 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: It's got two courses as well. I'd played the other 492 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: one previously played the second course. I was like, this 493 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: place is pure and in the summer, I think it's 494 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: like seventy eighty bucks now if you can handle one ten, 495 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: which you know some of us tough guys can is 496 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: called Whirlwind. Whirlwind. I like Whirlwind a lot and Raven. 497 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: Whirlwind and Raven are two courses in the Phoenix area 498 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: that Arnest famous is like obviously Scottsdale and Greyhawk, and 499 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: or TBC Scottsdale in Troon, but are cheaper and are 500 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: just in a pretty solid I recommend both those for 501 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: the price point. It's crazy how expensive golf is here, man, 502 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: it really is. In the winter. It's just I mean 503 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: people are paying it. I mean people pay six hundred 504 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: dollars to play TBC scott Steale grey Hawk. Same thing 505 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: at Truon is a little cheaper in that, but it's 506 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: like five hundred dollars to play golf when I was 507 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: a kid. Pebble Beach when I was a kid, I mean, hell, 508 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: Pebble Beach like five years ago. I don't know what 509 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: it is now, but I think was basically five hundred 510 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars. That is what it is the players 511 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: of golf. Hey, Mailbag, congrats on the Kings win on Monday. 512 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: Pulling the goalie with the power play at the end 513 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: was awesome. You talked about Jalen's huge Does he mean 514 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: the La Kings or Sacramento Kings. You talked about Jalen's 515 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: huge contract extension last episode and mention how specifically Burrow 516 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: should expect a big extension this offseason as well. What's 517 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: your opinion on Burrow taking a pay cut in order 518 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 1: to save cap space. Wasn't Brady known for doing this 519 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: with the Patriots so they could afford to pay put 520 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: great talent around him. Seems to me he could take 521 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty eight million dollars less than whatever they 522 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: are going to offer him, and then they could go 523 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: out and get him some useful pieces from free agency. 524 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: What's fifteen million to a guy who will most likely 525 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: be making twenty plus million. To me, my argument would 526 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: if I was Burrow, would be well, we already kind 527 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: of got the squad. I mean, we made the Super 528 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: Bowl last year, we easily could have won it, and 529 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: we easily could have won the AFC again this year. 530 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: How about this, I'll take whatever money that makes sense 531 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: for us to be able to keep I don't know 532 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: my two sweet wide receivers, So whatever it takes to 533 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: keep t Higgins and Jamar Chase, let's structure my deal 534 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: so we can take care of those two dudes. Because 535 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: the reality is Burrow's getting his money no matter what. 536 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: So whether it's two hundred and fifty million and guaranteed 537 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: one fifty one eighty one seventy whatever, he's going nowhere 538 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: and he's going to make an astronomical amount of cash. 539 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: The wide receivers are a little more complicated because Jamar 540 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: Chase is going to be like Justin Jefferson get contracts. 541 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: You know, Jamar can't get a contract for another year. 542 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: But that are gonna look like you know, Tyreek Hill, 543 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: Devonte Atta, It's gonna be enormous. So you're gonna get 544 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: seventy five to eighty million dollars guaranteed. Now t Higgins, 545 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: I would say, is not quite that, but he's probably 546 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: fifty million guaranteed. So you're gonna look at two guys 547 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: over the next two years, they're gonna get you know, 548 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: you combine them, they're gonna get a quarterback level contract 549 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: and both of them are gonna make twenty five. Higgins 550 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: probably make, you know, twenty two, Jamar make thirty. So 551 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a guy making twenty twenty two. You're 552 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: gonna have a guy making thirty, and then Burrow making 553 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: forty forty five fifty. That's a lot on three players. 554 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: It's why a buddy of mine from the Chiefs I remember, 555 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: was like, listen, and they respect the shit of those guys. 556 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: But the difference of the Chiefs over the last three 557 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: or four years and the Bengals, all those guys are 558 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: on rookie contracts, So it's going to just get a 559 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: little more. Like she just wants to do. Kelsey's a 560 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: max guy. Obviously, Mahomes makes a ton. They were paying 561 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: a left tackle a lot of money. They're paying Chris 562 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: Jones a lot of money, you know, they had to 563 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: let guys go, They had to let Ward walk to 564 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: the Niners, they had to trade Tyreek. You know, they 565 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: were already kind of in the in the business place, 566 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, of just already paying people. And I just 567 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: think that it's gonna be fascinating to watch the Bengals. 568 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: They got three guys. Obviously Burrows the most expensive, Jamar's 569 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: right behind him, and then Higgins is a little less. 570 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: But Higgins is a very very valuable piece. If t 571 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: Higgins right now was on the open market, like if 572 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: they were willing to trade him, they would easily get 573 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: a first round pick for him, easily. I was wrong 574 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: on him now. His numbers aren't as crazy as they 575 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: could be because obviously he plays with Jamar Chase. But 576 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: last two years, seventy four to seventy four, thirteen touchdowns, 577 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, well over two thousand yards, so he's basically 578 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: he's one hundred fifty catches, you know, twenty two hundred yards. 579 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: Guy's a beast, averages fourteen yards a catch. He's just 580 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: he's big, he's sweet, he's young. I mean it's and 581 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: he's their second best wide receiver. Maybe he'll get a 582 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: little less than I think maybe he'll get eighteen nineteen 583 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: million dollars a year. I don't know. It's a little complicated, 584 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be fascinating to watch them. Part of 585 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: building a team in football, you know, is who do 586 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: you have to pay? Right, the Chiefs had to pay 587 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: obviously the quarterback, a defensive lineman. They get lucky because Kelsey, 588 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: who is I mean, what's Travis kelcey? Non quarterback? Top 589 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: seven player in the league. Well, if Travis kelce was 590 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: a left tackle or a defensive end or a corner, 591 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: he would make way more. But he plays tight end. 592 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: So they just which I think is kind of bullshit, 593 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: but they don't make as much. I do not understand 594 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: if I was representing a tight end like Kittle or 595 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: Kelsey or Mark Andrews or whoever. It's like, listen, just 596 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: because he plays quote unch quote tight end, look at 597 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: his numbers. Look what he means to you. You're willing 598 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: to pay wide receiver, you know, twenty million dollars a year, 599 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: but my guy only makes thirteen or fourteen because he 600 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: just plays a position called something different, even though he 601 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: brings more to the table. It's got to be madinating, 602 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: maddening for the tight end. Again, these are first class problems. 603 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: You know, Kelsey well compensated relative to society, but relative 604 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: to wide receivers, which if you just talked about Travis 605 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: kelcey is a wide receiver, I mean, is he one 606 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: of the great wide receivers of all time? I mean, 607 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: I was just about to pull up the stats here. 608 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure if you just rattle off his numbers 609 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: and I said, you know what he is, you didn't 610 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: know who I was talking about. He just this is 611 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: the best wide receiver in the league since sixteen eighty five, 612 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: eleven hundred and four, eighty three, one thousand and eight, 613 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: one oh three, thirteen hundred and ten, ten is the 614 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: touchdowns ninety seven, twelve hundred and five, one oh five, 615 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred eleven, ninety two, eleven hundred and nine, one ten, 616 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: thirteen hundred twelve. I mean, what you just rattle off 617 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: this numbers? Like, is that Antonio Brown? What are we 618 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: talking about here? If Travis kelce had a wr next 619 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 1: to his name, not a tight end, he'd make thirty 620 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: four million dollars a year. He's just a monster. I mean, 621 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: but he plays tight end, so he doesn't Now he's 622 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: he's well paid. But I just think those guys get 623 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: screwed in the grand scheme of things. Other than that, 624 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: I think that's it. So let's have a big draft week, 625 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: let's enjoy ourselves, and uh hope some some star players 626 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: get traded so we'll get something to talk about. Audios 627 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: the volume