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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy.

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for day Edo State?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Whoo whoo?

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Speaker 1: And no Dan and Tie Dan Rubertstein, Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: You know, just because we have a national champion does

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Speaker 3: not mean that this train is going to stop anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: My friend, welcome back to the show. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm great?

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Speaker 2: You know what this is like, Ty, This is and

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Speaker 2: you see it from NBA players sometimes when there's a

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Speaker 2: bad loss and then after they get changed or they

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Speaker 2: go into the locker room, do a you know, answer

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Speaker 2: the questions from the media, and then go back out right.

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Speaker 2: Kobe's shooting three hundred threes after a bad shooting performance.

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Speaker 2: Not that our performance late season was bad. But we're

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Speaker 2: not off to Cancun, Tie, We're not. I mean I

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Speaker 2: did go to Mexico shortly after the regulars.

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Speaker 1: This is true. This is very true. What I'm saying

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Speaker 1: is the work on our audio jumper never stops, right.

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Speaker 3: I think that tracks well. Welcome back one and all.

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Speaker 3: We've had what like forty eight hours. Just something to digest.

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Speaker 3: Indiana and in the national championship. Congratulations to the Hoosiers

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Speaker 3: any of the episodes here in the off season. On

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Speaker 3: today's episode, We've got a few housekeeping slash news items

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Speaker 3: going to kick off. I think what we're going to

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Speaker 3: twenty six preseason. I think that's right. Yeah, we're going

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Speaker 3: to get early our way too early, top twelve. We're

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Speaker 1: And then we'll see where it goes from there.

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Speaker 2: I'm sticking number one Dodgers, right, Sorry? Which sport are

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Speaker 1: I've done a lot.

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Speaker 2: I've done extensive prep on the minor league systems of

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Speaker 2: No notes, I would say, welcome to the club, but

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Speaker 3: The story is this Darien Mensa, very good quarterback formerly

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Speaker 3: whoever else. They're also claiming that if they lose him,

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Speaker 3: it would cause irreparable harm, stuff that money can't fix, right,

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Speaker 3: I understand how you might make that case to comply

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Speaker 3: not being This is not an employment contract, right, This

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Speaker 3: is not an employment contract, an nil rights contract.

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Speaker 1: What they will.

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Speaker 3: Argue, I'm not a lawyer, I just playing on the podcast.

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Speaker 3: What I've read that they will argue is that, hey man,

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Speaker 3: You can't restrict my movement, right, So we'll see a

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Speaker 1: And of course everybody.

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Speaker 3: In the universe with an opinion on ANIL and the

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Speaker 1: So more to come on that front.

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Speaker 3: Kind of a weird mood for Dan Mullen to replace

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Speaker 1: Okay, so why are you talking to me? Well, we

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Speaker 3: There is a constant, and I mean constant conflict out

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Speaker 2: Chandler Morris got reject he was denied, Chandler Morris got rejected,

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Speaker 2: Parker declared Caden Proctor at Alabama who had been anchoring

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Speaker 1: Honestly, it's not nov.

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Speaker 2: The other school hit particularly hard, understandably so with how

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Speaker 1: Yepah.

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Speaker 3: All right, We again will make sure that you are

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Speaker 3: But why don't we start off the twenty twenty six preseason.

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Speaker 1: Dan, I'm ready, that's right, twenty six? Where did we

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Speaker 3: I just like the muffled, mixed down, poorly tracked cold football.

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Speaker 3: true overballer top twelve fashion.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm working on a new poll for

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Speaker 1: people next year.

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Speaker 3: We have our top twelves today that we're going to

443
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Speaker 3: debate that we're going.

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Speaker 1: To talk through. That took us some time to put together.

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I am curious what your

446
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Speaker 1: process was for doing this, because of course it's impossis.

447
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Speaker 1: Preseason rankings in general are impossible, and it's especially true

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Speaker 1: when you're doing it in January. So what how did

449
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Speaker 1: you go about concocting this list, were you looking at

450
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Speaker 1: other top twenty fives and comparing notes and reacting to

451
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Speaker 1: those where you going and digging into individual teams and

452
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Speaker 1: rosters and schedules and things like what what was the

453
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Speaker 1: mix for you?

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Speaker 2: I broke into the Big ten office to look at

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Speaker 2: the schedule, which is not released yet now, So we're

456
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Speaker 2: doing this without what Big Ten and Big twelve schedules

457
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Speaker 2: being released. So we're flying a little bit blind in

458
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Speaker 2: terms of like, oh man, that stretch is going to

459
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Speaker 2: be bah. We don't know how they're going to We

460
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Speaker 2: know who they're playing.

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Speaker 3: We know who is playing whom, but we do not

462
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Speaker 3: know when those games are occurring, correct.

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Speaker 2: We do not know when buys are happening. We do

464
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Speaker 2: not know when a team has three just monstrous games

465
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Speaker 2: in a row in November or something like that. So

466
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Speaker 2: we don't have the full context of the roads ahead

467
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Speaker 2: for the Big Ten and Big Twelve. We don't fully

468
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Speaker 2: know portal hauls for everybody, especially as relates to teams

469
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Speaker 2: who were in the playoff and players entering and or signing.

470
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Speaker 2: There's a lot and look, we have early Signing Day

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Speaker 2: in the past, and we have regular signing day coming

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Speaker 2: up in like two weeks from today.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, so many signing days.

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Speaker 2: So then we'll see what happens with just pick one man.

475
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Speaker 2: We have what NFL coaching carousel happening right now. So

476
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Speaker 2: we could have a situation where a coordinator is making

477
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Speaker 2: a move up to become a position coach or something

478
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Speaker 2: in the NFL, or a head coach out of nowhere

479
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Speaker 2: decides to become a coordinator like Jeff Hafley did at

480
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Speaker 2: Boston College going to the Packers. Who's now is he

481
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Speaker 2: a head coach in the NFL Dolphins?

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Speaker 1: He took a Dolphins job. That's unbelievable. That's like three

483
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Speaker 1: years ago.

484
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Speaker 2: Boston College was a mess under Jeff Halfley and he

485
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Speaker 2: was like this is not for me and did a

486
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Speaker 2: good job, I think, laundering his acumen and reputation as

487
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Speaker 2: the Packers defensive coordinator and is now a head coach.

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Speaker 2: So there's movement yet to happen, which is what I

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Speaker 2: say right after my Thanksgiving meal, and we are ready

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Speaker 2: to with I guess the assistance of knowing who's returning,

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Speaker 2: knowing what these teams did in the portal, knowing a

492
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Speaker 2: lot of coaching moves and just a nose for vibes

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Speaker 2: tie because that really is what it all comes down

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Speaker 2: to with these too early top whatever lesh.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, take this with a grain of salt,

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Speaker 3: as if it even needs to be said, but take

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Speaker 3: this with the grain of salt, and grant us, please,

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Speaker 3: I beg of you a little bit of grace with this,

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Speaker 3: because no, I say, no grace, no grace. Okay, we're

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Speaker 3: choosing to do this, We are choosing to do this.

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Speaker 3: But I was gonna say, if we like miss a

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Speaker 3: name or oh that stuff, yes, yes, yeah, that's stuff. Like,

503
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Speaker 3: give us a little bit of wiggle room on that front,

504
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Speaker 3: because this is very much a moving target. Most of

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Speaker 3: the websites aren't even up. Shout out to my guy

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Speaker 3: over at puntin Radley dot com who actually has been

507
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Speaker 3: working to try and pull all this stuff together. It's

508
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Speaker 3: a great resource. Go and check out his fine work.

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Speaker 3: But it's to the earlier point. It's not just right

510
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Speaker 3: now anyway about who has eligibility. It is actually seeing

511
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Speaker 3: a screen that has all of the team's players in

512
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Speaker 3: one spot, right. So it was tough. I went through.

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Speaker 3: I asked myself first and foremost about all of these teams.

514
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Speaker 3: Do I trust the coach? Do I trust the coach?

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Speaker 3: What's the coaching situation? Is it a new situation? What's

516
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Speaker 3: the coordinator situation? I tend to start there when I

517
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Speaker 3: do an exercise like this. Secondly, functioning quarterback keyword functioning,

518
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Speaker 3: How do I feel.

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Speaker 1: Out the quarterback? Yep? Great?

520
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Speaker 3: Then it's the status of the lines, offensive defensive line.

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Speaker 3: We just saw Miami make the National Championship doing no

522
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Speaker 3: small part because of its offensive and defensive prowess along

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Speaker 3: the lines. So I want to know about the lines,

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Speaker 3: and then schedule schedule. I know you dove in pretty

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Speaker 3: good to the schedule. Like you said, we don't have dates,

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Speaker 3: so we can't really talk about gonets or anything like

527
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Speaker 3: that yet. But we have at least the sense for

528
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Speaker 3: who is playing whom we just don't know exactly when.

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Speaker 3: So I all of that, you know, kind of goes

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Speaker 3: without saying. But I also did a pretty deep dive

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Speaker 3: of rosters now post portal, or mostly post portal, to

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Speaker 3: get a sense for who I felt good about, who

533
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Speaker 3: I didn't feel good about. Where the returning experience, let's say, was,

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Speaker 3: I'm almost hesitant to say production because it just kind

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Speaker 3: of means something different in this day and age.

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Speaker 1: But where's the experience. Whose experience, who's not experienced?

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Speaker 3: So it was fun. There's a lot more, a lot

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Speaker 3: more research than I expected, but it was actually fun

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Speaker 3: to kind of refamiliarize myself with these rosters and set

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Speaker 3: us up for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I look, I look at who's expected to play quarterback,

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Speaker 2: and then you don't need to guess. Now with the

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Speaker 2: portal where coaches think they need to improve and or

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Speaker 2: get deeper and or need to get higher end talents,

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Speaker 2: that's right. The coaches are telling you, the ga are

546
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Speaker 2: telling you, these programs are telling you. We are desperate

547
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Speaker 2: for linebackers. We are desperate for receiving pop. We are

548
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Speaker 2: desperate for a new quarterback. We are desperate for offensive

549
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Speaker 2: linemen and the numbers. And you know, if somebody makes

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Speaker 2: a move for a high level player, that doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: like that would be the type of school to spend, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: they must be super desperate. They are paying a premium

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Speaker 2: something like that. So we have a sense of where

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Speaker 2: the schools felt like they need to improve, and now

555
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Speaker 2: we can evaluate if we do or don't think that

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Speaker 2: what they did in the portal is going to be

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Speaker 2: enough to secure and solidify that position group. So we

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Speaker 2: have that information. You want to start at twelve and

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Speaker 2: count down? Yes, I think that's the move or the

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Speaker 2: also receiving votes.

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Speaker 1: All right, give me. Let's start off with your number

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Speaker 1: twelve team? All right? You ready? Yeah? Iowa?

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Speaker 2: Iowa, Iowa with a quarterback question. They've got two guys

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Speaker 2: competing for the job. Jeremy Hecklin, who's a shorter guy

565
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Speaker 2: but more creative, more improvisational, allegedly has not played meaningful

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Speaker 2: snaps for Iowa, and Hank Brown courtesy of the Auburn Tigers,

567
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Speaker 2: who's bigger and might have a bigger arm. They return

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Speaker 2: enough on offense and have done well enough on defense,

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Speaker 2: including returning a couple key pieces, though the defensive line

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Speaker 2: is going to look different enough that I can't have

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Speaker 2: them too high. But there is something about Iowa going

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Speaker 2: into this year and I like their schedule a good deal.

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Speaker 2: They do have Ohio State, but it's at Kinnick. They

574
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Speaker 2: miss Indiana and miss Oregon. Their road games are at Northwestern,

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Speaker 2: at Washington, at Minnesota, at Michigan. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: potentially oh A at Illinois. Excuse me, which will be difficult.

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Speaker 2: But there's a good mix of a lot new new

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Speaker 2: quarterback play offenses that don't immediately seem to present a

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Speaker 2: ton of pop that kind of plays into ideal Iowa scenarios.

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Speaker 2: So I have Iowa right in that conversation for top twelve. Wow, okay,

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Speaker 2: do you have them lower? Are they in your top

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Speaker 2: twelve or top sixteen or eighteen or whatever?

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Speaker 3: No, okay, they would be my top twenty. I would

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Speaker 3: say top twenty five for sure.

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Speaker 1: Syhawk is at home with a new coach. I like that.

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Speaker 2: I've got Penn State at twelve. I do not have

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Speaker 2: Penn State in my top.

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Speaker 1: This is a new team.

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Speaker 3: It is basically a hybrid of the best guys for

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Speaker 3: Iowa State and whatever Matt Campbell was able to keep

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Speaker 3: from the old Penn State roster got a hybrid team here.

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Speaker 3: This is basically Iowa State's starting offense. And it seems

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Speaker 3: to me the way that they're building this just based

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Speaker 3: on the personnel. It's going to be an offense with

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Speaker 3: an identity. It's going to be the same identity that

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Speaker 3: we saw with Iowa State, and they're going to stretch

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Speaker 3: the field. They got receivers that I mean, have crazy

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Speaker 3: numbers yards per reception. They're going to mix in, hopefully

599
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Speaker 3: Kobe Howard, who didn't get a whole lot of reps

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Speaker 3: in the Franklin regime, but he was a guy that

601
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Speaker 3: they were clamoring for to get more reps out wide.

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Speaker 3: So I think we will see a lot of three

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Speaker 3: yards and a cloud of dust, a lot of bullyball

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Speaker 3: or attempted bullyball play action with rock O Becked trying

605
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Speaker 3: to stretch the field vertically.

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Speaker 1: Which I don't hate.

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Speaker 3: It's already more of an identity than they've had. Weirdly,

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Speaker 3: the question for me is talent, both in the front

609
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Speaker 3: of the defense in the back of the defense. Not

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Speaker 3: used to asking that question about Penn State because defense

611
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Speaker 3: has been so much of a mainstay in state college.

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Speaker 3: But as I look at the roster with the way

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Speaker 3: it's constructed now, I think we have a pretty good

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Speaker 3: sense for what the offense will look like because we

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Speaker 3: watched Iowa State last year. But defensively, defensively, I think

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Speaker 3: that's where I need to be won over. Their linebacking

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Speaker 3: course should be great, yep, But I think the defense line.

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Speaker 1: And Tony Rojas is back right Tony d C the

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Speaker 1: linebacking group.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, So for me, that's that's where I have

621
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Speaker 3: the biggest questions. But I really like their schedule. Okay,

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Speaker 3: their schedule is very, very gettable. They're on the road

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Speaker 3: at Michigan, which will not be easy. They do host USC,

624
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Speaker 3: which I do not think will be easy. Wisconsin could

625
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Speaker 3: be easy. I don't know what to expect from the Badgers.

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Speaker 3: They are not in my top twelve or top twenty five.

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Speaker 3: And then they are on the road later in the

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Speaker 3: year against Washington, which should be a tough matchup traveling

629
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Speaker 3: cross country against a pretty good Washington team. But there's

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Speaker 3: no Ohio State, there's no Indiana. This is a schedule

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Speaker 3: that I think sets up really well for Matt Campbell

632
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Speaker 3: and y're one, and given that he's got a roster

633
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Speaker 3: that he is familiar with, I've got them pretty high.

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Speaker 3: I did not expect to put Penn State this high.

635
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Speaker 3: I really didn't, But when I was looking over them

636
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Speaker 3: and comparing them to some of the other teams, I

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Speaker 3: just I like the setup more for Penn State.

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Speaker 1: So I got him at twelve.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there, Yeah, there is yeah, no Oregon either, by

640
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Speaker 2: the way, on this schedule at Ohio State, No Oregon,

641
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Speaker 2: No Indiana, Marshall Temple Buffalo. Another brutal Penn State non

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Speaker 2: conference slate. We'll see whether or not the Penn State

643
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Speaker 2: Maryland thing continues. It should even without James Franklin there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if Penn State were to win fewer than nine eight

645
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Speaker 2: nine games. Now, look, you say the Iowa State offense

646
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Speaker 2: is coming over in the Big twelve, that was a

647
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Speaker 2: sixty third ranked SP plus offense. Sure, so we're not

648
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Speaker 2: exactly bringing over a bunch of killers, but you know

649
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Speaker 2: they're a year older, and you know what infrastructure should

650
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Speaker 2: be better.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I take that point and I get where you're coming from,

653
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Speaker 3: and believe me, I have thought the same thing. Rock

654
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Speaker 3: o'beck is probably the best quarterback at this second that

655
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Speaker 3: Penn State has had on campus in the last ten years,

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Speaker 3: better than Trace in the last like ten years he

657
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: was there. Didn't Trace win the twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen,

658
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen the best they've had ten title, the.

659
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: Better than Sean Clifford. Okay, yeah, okay, he won games.

660
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 3: I like the setup for him, So I'm going Penn

661
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: State twelve. Who you got at eleven at eleven. I

662
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: have Texas A and M. Wow, that's considerably lower than

663
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: I have Texas A and M.

664
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

665
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: The new offensive line thing in front of Marcel Reads

666
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: scares me some. Okay, there was something about, look, they've

667
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: recruited pretty well. Mario Kraver's back. They're like playmakers on

668
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: his defense back. Losing an offensive coordinator and Colin Kline.

669
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: I think A and M fans had an up and

670
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 2: down opinioned when you see how they finished the year

671
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: of how Colin Kline was able to game plan and

672
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: execute during those Texas and Miami games. But all things considered,

673
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: I just I think Mike Elcho's really really good and

674
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: the A and M scale I think is going to

675
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: be pretty tough. I mean, they have ASU in the

676
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: non conference, whatever you think of Kenny Dillingham and Cutter Buwlly,

677
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: that's a tough game that I mean.

678
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: We don't sell it short. This is a brutal schedule.

679
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: It's really tough. It's at LSU.

680
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's ASU, It's at LSU, it's at Missoo,

681
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: it's at Bama. It's home against Tennessee, it's at Oklahoma.

682
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: And of course they've got the game to close out

683
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: the year at home, but against Texas at home.

684
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's against you know, however you rank Texas,

685
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: that's a.

686
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: Seven games right there, that are all, you know, depending

687
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: on the situation, kind of losable.

688
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: I agree, So, but I have them lower than you do.

689
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: You have them considerably lower than I do.

690
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's a tough schedule with a new offensive line,

691
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: which always scares me a good amount. And also, by

692
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: the way, we're we haven't we'll see what Arkansas is

693
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: that game. You know, if you're going to believe in

694
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: the universe, Pixie Dust is always weird. They travel to

695
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: South Carolina, which I don't believe can be as bad

696
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: as they were last season on offense, no travel to Tennessee,

697
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: traveled to Oklahoma, as mentioned like, It's just this is

698
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: a team that if they are top ten, top eight,

699
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: I don't know how high you have them. I don't remember.

700
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: They're gonn to be very clean, and that was the

701
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: issue last year, you know, the back half of the season.

702
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: Last year, it was just the stretches of undisciplined, sloppy football.

703
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: Now suddenly with a new offensive line and the guys

704
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: have experience for sure, and they hit the portal. Well, Texas,

705
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: A and M identified the fact that they need help

706
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: in the portal, and they you know, they got it.

707
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm just a buyer in Elco right now

708
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: that if it comes down to savvy coaching, he's going

709
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: to come out on top a lot.

710
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 3: I moved them down one spot as you were describing

711
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 3: your stance on A and M.

712
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: Okay, but we'll get to them in a little bit. Okay,

713
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: you move them down because because you're selling you, you're

714
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: speaking truth to power here. That's why.

715
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, Okay, number ere number eleven, I have BYU. Okay,

716
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: they're my top ten. Continue, Yeah, I've I've got BYU.

717
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: I think BYU in twenty six looks a lot like

718
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: they did in twenty five. So we're gonna have year

719
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: two for bear Bachmeyer. We're gonna have another offense built

720
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: heavily around LJ. Martin, who's sticking around. They've got an

721
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: experienced offensive line. They're gonna need someone to step up

722
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: out why Chase Roberts has gone, Parker Kingston is back.

723
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: He was their leading receiver. But they need a compliment.

724
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so need somebody to step up in that department.

725
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: The heartbeat of the defense is still going to be

726
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 3: the linebacking corp as it was last year, especially getting

727
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 3: I'm gonna batch this name, ca Ulu Lave from cal Yes,

728
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: well it's not.

729
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: To be a Michigan transfer, but it worked out that

730
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: he went to BYU.

731
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, really good player. Nice to add him into that

732
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 3: linebacker corp. I think BYU has an optimal schedule. I

733
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: think it works pretty well for them. They do have

734
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 3: that game now against Notre Dame, because the Notre Dame

735
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: USC rivalry, at least for the minute, is falling apart.

736
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: They're going to host Notre Dame in Provo. They're on

737
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: the road in Utah, well, of course in Utah, but

738
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: in Salt Lake for.

739
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: The Holy World, Yeah yep.

740
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 3: And then they get both both of the Arizona schools

741
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: in Provo as well. So it's an optimal home schedule

742
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: if you are a BYU fan and you're looking to

743
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: see some teams come to town. I think this sets

744
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: up pretty well for them. I like the way that

745
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 3: this looks for BYU. There will be time to discuss

746
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: how we feel about their record once we know over

747
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: unders and things of that nature.

748
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: But for the minute.

749
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: Anyway, I've just there's enough continuity and the schedule sets

750
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 3: up well for me to feel pretty good about them

751
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: being a Top twelve team.

752
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: So I got them at eleven.

753
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, when you look at who was in

754
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: the running for and competing to play in the Big

755
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: Twelve championship game, a lot of those teams are replacing

756
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: quarterbacks or have a lot of changes on offense when

757
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: you look at Whoever, when you look at Iowa State,

758
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: when you look at Arizona State. Not that Arizona State

759
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: was in that conversation at the end of last season

760
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: after Sam Levitt went down, but TCU all those like,

761
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 2: there's just a lot new at quarterback in the Big Twelve,

762
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 2: Whereas bear Bachmeier in his short time in Provo has

763
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: already led this offense with what l J. Martin back.

764
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 2: Was he the Big twelve offensive player of the year.

765
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: I believe he was.

766
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: That There's familiar faces on both sides. The loss of

767
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: Jay Hill is not great, the defensive coordinator who's on

768
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: his way to Michigan. And you know, they were led

769
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: by a really strong linebacking crew last year, which is

770
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: one of the position groups. I believe they hit hard

771
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: in the portal this year with what kid ui lave

772
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: whatever uluaave ululuave okayve I have.

773
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 3: It phonetically spelled here, and I still wanted to give

774
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: the disclaimer that I might screw it up, but.

775
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: Sure BYU hit linebacker, offense, of line, and tight end

776
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: as a priority in the portal, as is you hit

777
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: as you mentioned now you know should be should be

778
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: once again successful with what appears to be a very

779
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: workable schedule.

780
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: Who do you got at ten? Oklahoma? Okay? Talk me

781
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: through Oklahoma at ten?

782
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: Tough schedule once again, But if their starting point is

783
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: returning the guys that return on all three levels of

784
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 2: this defense, returning quarterback who I wasn't crazy about John

785
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: Matier in year one, I expect somewhat of a jump

786
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: as he gets more comfortable against SEC competition with a

787
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: full another full off season to really unpack what went

788
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 2: right and what went wrong for Oklahoma. That they were

789
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 2: able to win games against good teams without much in

790
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: the way of an explosive offense tells me that this

791
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: is an offense that should improve in year two?

792
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 3: Was it?

793
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: Ben Arbuckle, the offensive coordinator in Norman. Now the other

794
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: side of that is at Michigan, at Georgia, Texas. You know,

795
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: on the neutral Dallas brutal Ole miss whatever Ole misses

796
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: this year, A and M whatever A and M is

797
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: but A and M you know, hit the offensive line

798
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: and edge positions hard in the portal at.

799
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 3: Miszoo at me Florida. Don't forget Florida. Florida's got a

800
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: good roster. They're not going to be in this top twelve,

801
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: but they've got a good roster.

802
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: And at least, at the very least, Florida is like

803
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: a mystery in this moment totally. You know, they could

804
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: be a mysterious rattlesnake jump ready to jump out of nowhere.

805
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: But there is something about the returning guys for Oklahoma,

806
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: and I think they're going to be well coached. I

807
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: just I'm thinking good things for Oklahoma once again, that

808
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: this will be a walk before you can jog type year,

809
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: getting into the playoff without much pop on offense.

810
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: To me, I'm going to spin in a positive way.

811
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have Oklahoma a little bit higher, and I

812
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: can talk about that in a second, but I think

813
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: you're right.

814
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean, the defense is again.

815
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: Going to be a wall, an absolute Wall by the way,

816
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: I really like Cole Sullivan, the linebacker that they got

817
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: from Michigan. I think that was a nice pickup by

818
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: Brandon Venables. But you're right, Johnttier is back, Isaiah Satana

819
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: is back. I like what they did in the portal

820
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 3: I receive with Trell Harris, the guy from Virginia, Parker

821
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 3: Livingstone who came up from Texas. There's not a lot

822
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 3: of depth, not a lot of returning production behind them, right,

823
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 3: and I think my sticking point in Oklahoma. Again, we're

824
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 3: recording this in late January, so a lot can change.

825
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm really TBD.

826
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: At this point as to whether or not they got

827
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 3: better as a run blocking unit, and that's what's holding

828
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: me back. We talked about it all year. This was

829
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 3: John Mattier or bust. They didn't really run the ball

830
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 3: that effectively. It was whatever Matier could do. I don't

831
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: know if that line got better enough in order to

832
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: facilitate a better ground game, which I think is imperative

833
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 3: in the SEC. You just can't put it all on

834
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: John Matire. But at least on the defensive side of

835
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: the ball, they certainly didn't get any worse. So there's

836
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: a I think a pretty high floor for the Sooner now.

837
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: And look, the focus on tight end I think will

838
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: be important because they like to play the bigger sets,

839
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: and you know, they couldn't really run last year even

840
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: with the bigger sets, So hopefully making some changes there

841
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: with guys coming in, there's something there, hopefully for the

842
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: for the sake of Oklahoma. I think it's there's a

843
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 2: Tennessee transfer who came in at tight end who I

844
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: think is reasonably well regarded, and Hayden Hansen from Florida

845
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 2: coming in. So they're adding bodies there to hopefully beef

846
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: up the look on offense, to be able to control

847
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: clock ground, you know, defensive fronts a little bit better.

848
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's where I have Oklahoma in my in my.

849
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 3: Top ten, Jack Van Dorsaler, there you go, love that name,

850
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 3: all right, six five, two thirty six, big dude?

851
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: All right, who do you have? My number ten is Lsu?

852
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: Okay, So you are immediately in on the Lane Kiffin

853
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: era as a playoff team, right, that's what you're saying,

854
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: as a playoff caliber team, Sam Levitt, Lsu Lane Kiffin,

855
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: big transfers and both sides of the ball.

856
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: So look Els was the top portal team. They're the

857
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: top portal team. Look at what they did. I love

858
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: what they did on offensive quarterback. I think Sam Levitt

859
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: absolutely fits the system. I love what they did at

860
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: the skill positions. Not crazy about their offensive line, like

861
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: their tackle Weston Davis, technically a returning starter, young player

862
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: graded out horribly in your one. That's okay, you're one,

863
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: still very young, a lot of room to grow. But

864
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 3: even some of the experience is inexperienced. Okay, sure, there's

865
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: just not a whole lot of depth there, so I

866
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: think he made the roster better. He obviously brought in

867
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: a ton of guys. I think it was thirty eight

868
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: by the time all was said and done, thirty nine

869
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: with today's thirty nine with today's Okay, it's still going up.

870
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: You gotta be careful here, but love when he did

871
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 3: the skill positions. Not necessarily crazy about the line. Reserved

872
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 3: the right to change my mind later on in the summer. Defensively, upfront,

873
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 3: it's a lot more about potential than production. Sort of

874
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: like the opposite of Kurt Signetti. I would like to

875
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 3: see a little bit before I fully commit to the

876
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 3: bit here with Lsu. Yeah, on that defensive front, but

877
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: the back seven looks like a collection of transfers that

878
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: are really solid against both the run in the past,

879
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: so they're versatile on the back end of that defense.

880
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 3: But upfront, to me is where I think I have

881
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: the biggest question marks. The schedule open up the year

882
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: with Clemson. Clemson not on this list anywhere, no where.

883
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: To be funny their September even though Clemson's not on

884
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: the list, they're opening the season with Clemson, Louisiana Tech

885
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: at Ole Miss to start their SEC site why right, Texas,

886
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 2: A and M to finish out ye September. So three

887
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 2: of four extremely talented teams. We'll see what that actually means.

888
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 2: But that's the beginning of the Lane Kiff and era.

889
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: They've also got Alabama, Texas and a road tilt against

890
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: Tennessee on this schedule, so it will not be easy

891
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: for Lane Kiffin in your one at LSU. He's got

892
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 3: good talent in place. I think LSU will have a

893
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: fine year, but at this early stage a couple questions

894
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: for me. I've got him at ten.

895
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: Did you see the story of why Lane Kiffin the

896
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: specific advice he got from Nick Saban. Nick Saban said,

897
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 2: you'll regret not taking it. It's the best job in America.

898
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: And Nick Saban has last coached in Baton Rouge twenty

899
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: three years ago or whatever, not that he doesn't know

900
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: about how that job is at LSU from coaching at

901
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: Alabama for a long time. I just also think it's interesting.

902
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, has his workout out for him. But LSU

903
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: will remain a huge destination in the sport. And you're

904
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: not wrong about the skill talent there. You know, Trey

905
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 2: Wilson coming in from Florida. There's a ton of experience

906
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: to go solid to go with the potential. There's a

907
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 2: lot of experience. There's a decent amount of production. Guys

908
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 2: some injury issues whatever, looking to finish out their career

909
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: strong on a huge stage. And look, if Sam Levitt

910
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: can stay healthy and he's coming back from pretty serious injury,

911
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: you know, they immediately become pretty much as dangerous as

912
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: anybody in the SEC with a healthy Sam Levitt.

913
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 3: So, all right, my number nine team was Oklahoma. We

914
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: already talked about Oklahoma. I won't draw down.

915
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: Mine was BYU. Yeah, much longer about that, Okay, you

916
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: have BYU.

917
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: So since I talked anything to add on the BYU front.

918
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: I think we hit Oklahoma pretty well already, but that

919
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: takes us then to number eight. For you, Dan, who

920
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 3: do you gotta? Yes?

921
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: I have Miami, So Miami at time of recording, we

922
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: think they're going to have a really really good national

923
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 2: quarterback in Darien Mensa. We think we're not positive yet.

924
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: We know they're going to have Mark Fletcher. We know

925
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 2: they're going to have a young but very encouraging back

926
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 2: half of that defense. We know they're going to have

927
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: the most exciting young receiver because now Jeremiah Smith is

928
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: technically an upperclassman in Malachai Tony. He's the most exciting

929
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: and versatile young receiver in the game, especially since he

930
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: is very young just as a human, and we know

931
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: that there are going to be growing pains to some

932
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: extent on both the offensive and defensive lines.

933
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: Miami's schedule is pretty incredible. It looks, really it's pretty great.

934
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: It really is.

935
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: It looks they should be favored in eleven of twelve games.

936
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: I think they're at Clemson, whatever that means by the

937
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,479
Speaker 2: time they play, but they have Pitt and Floors stayed

938
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: at home, and they are on the road against Notre Dame,

939
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: against whom they were what three points better than at

940
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: home with a national championship caliber team, they were three

941
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: points better than Notre Dame. So I think Miami's in

942
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: a great place. We'll see how you know, they have

943
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: you know, one of, if not the top offensive lineman

944
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: coming in from the high school ranks, and Jackson cantwell,

945
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: I just look, they're going to develop offensive linemen. They

946
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 2: should have a productive at the very least a productive

947
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: offense given the pieces that return and or are added

948
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 2: to the team via portal. And we're not even positive

949
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: what the upper end of this talent level is going

950
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: to up end of this talent and this roster is

951
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: going to look like because the portal hall is not

952
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 2: complete for my so just continuity, proof of concept, vision executed.

953
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: I don't think I can put Miami in the top

954
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: five quite yet because there are those line questions on

955
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: both sides. But I think the questions will be answered

956
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: pretty quickly. It's just ruben Bain and a key mesidor

957
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 2: or absolute mania.

958
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: Well that's it, that's it. I mean, we're just maniacs.

959
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: As I said earlier, for me, it was a question

960
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: of lines.

961
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 3: I looked at lines, yeah, almost immediately after looking at coaches,

962
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 3: and the offensive line is one starter back. The defensive

963
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 3: line loses both Bine and mesidor Or, though they did

964
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 3: get Jarquez Carter from Ohio State in the portal, which

965
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 3: I think will help.

966
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: I like that move.

967
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 3: Definitely, but they're extremely inexperienced at linebacker, and it just

968
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 3: looks to me like they're gonna be very gettable in

969
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 3: the front seven, very gettable in the front seven.

970
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: And this is all separate from who's playing quarterback? Do

971
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: we know who? We think we know? But yeah, will.

972
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 3: They slip on a banana peel with that move and

973
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 3: end up with somebody else?

974
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: I don't. We'll see.

975
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 3: I've got Miami at thirteen on mine. I think Miami's

976
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: got a ton of talent. I'm just a little bit

977
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 3: put off by what they look like along the lines.

978
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 3: To your point, it's a very workable schedule, still probably

979
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: the best team in the ACC. My hunch is that

980
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 3: will get answers to that stuff relatively soon, so I'm

981
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 3: not writing them off completely. That's why I got him

982
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 3: in the top thirteen. I just wasn't ready to move

983
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: him inside the top twelve.

984
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: Do you know when they play Louisville and SMU.

985
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 3: Are you gonna tell me twenty twenty seven, they don't

986
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 3: have to play Louisville, nor do they have to play SMU.

987
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: This here, it only have one trip far west. They're

988
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 2: playing against Stanford.

989
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't know.

990
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: I think it should work out pretty nicely schedulized for Miami.

991
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: They just look, they can't screw up against Pitt or

992
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: Boston College or something like that. But barring something, you know,

993
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 2: some sort of crazy laps, I think they should be

994
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: pretty competitive.

995
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 3: The weird thing is that the toughest ACC game on

996
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 3: this schedule right now, m h, we're not going to

997
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: count Notre Dame.

998
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: They're not an ACC. T might be Virginia Tech. It

999
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: might be Virginia Tech. I think you can make that case.

1000
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: But it sets up pretty well just the fact that

1001
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 3: we're looking at this now wondering, Okay, what is the

1002
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 3: toughest game that they've got.

1003
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: That's you.

1004
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 3: You're feeling pretty good if you're Miami fan about that.

1005
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 3: So all right, you've got them at eight.

1006
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Florida A and M in Central Michigan outside of

1007
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. In terms of the non ACC portion of

1008
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: their schedule.

1009
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 3: At number eight, I have your Oregon. Okay, you can

1010
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 3: speak to Oregon much more fluently, Yeah, much more.

1011
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 1: Elegantly than I can. Oh.

1012
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: Okay, but this is a relatively young team in twenty

1013
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 3: twenty five, was it.

1014
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: Not in some places? Yeah? Absolutely? Receiver at running back, Yeah.

1015
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 3: I know you talked about this a fair amount during

1016
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: the season, not as much during the playoff. But I

1017
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 3: remember points in our conversation throughout the year corner where

1018
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 3: you were like, yeah, they're good, They're not a contender.

1019
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: They're not a contender. The defense looks to have what

1020
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: seven starters back. The pass rush looks awesome. Pass rush

1021
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 1: should be a strength.

1022
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: The defensive line is all back and a couple key

1023
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: reserves back as well.

1024
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, got a huge boost with the news that we

1025
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 3: discussed earlier about Dante Moore coming back. Obviously, there is

1026
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: skill talent. There are some young running backs who will

1027
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 3: be back and hopefully healthy to Coreyan more out wide.

1028
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: Here is my issue. Tell me if you think this

1029
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 3: is valid or not willing to listen losses along the

1030
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 3: offensive line. Sure, will Stein obviously leaving for Kentucky. What

1031
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 3: is the identity of this offense in twenty twenty six.

1032
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: Oh, it should be relatively similar. So they've promoted their

1033
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: tight ends coach Drew Mehringer, which you know, his aptitude

1034
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: and ability is TBD as an offensive coordinator. And it's

1035
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 2: also TBD if they're going to hire a you know,

1036
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 2: a dedicated quarterbacks coach or you know, they haven't backfilled

1037
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 2: the loss of will Stein yet.

1038
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: It'll be a very similar offense.

1039
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: Right, It'll revolve around Dante More, It'll revolve around speed

1040
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: and Jamari Johnson at tight end and a deep group

1041
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: of running backs that return. So I don't think they're

1042
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: going to be doing anything different. They're not going to

1043
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 2: reinvent the wheel. Hopefully it's a better version and a

1044
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 2: cleaner version of how the season ended off defensively against

1045
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: Texas Tech and Indiana. But this should be a probably

1046
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: top five offense in America.

1047
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 3: I got him at eight, okay, And I think what

1048
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 3: is holding me back a little bit is the coordinator switch. Sure,

1049
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 3: what's holding me back a little bit is.

1050
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 2: Uh, Look, the offensive line question is real. They've gone

1051
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 2: after a couple guys in the portal. At the time

1052
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: of recording, Jordan's Seaton hasn't decided yet. Oregon was a

1053
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: finalist for his services coming out of high school. They

1054
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: have a Yale tackle who could step in. They had

1055
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: a tackle last year who stepped in some I think

1056
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: pretty cleanly when Isaiah World, the left tackle went down

1057
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: against USC. So there's experience here, and they've recruited very

1058
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: well along the offensive line, so there won't be a

1059
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: lack of talent. It's just a little bit of lack

1060
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: of experience along the offensive line.

1061
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: I got him at eight. Let's see, Okay, I got

1062
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: him at eight.

1063
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think your question should be more about maybe

1064
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: depth on the defensive line. They lost a lot there linebacker,

1065
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 2: they lose a very productive Brice Betcher, and just the

1066
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 2: high level talent at linebacker is sort of unclear.

1067
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: That seemed to be a portal position of need that

1068
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: they didn't hit. But yeah, with the.

1069
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 2: Amount returning and with what they did in the portal

1070
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: on defense, especially to plug those holes, I think eight

1071
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: is low.

1072
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: Okay, who you got at seven? At seven?

1073
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: I have Texas, which is lower than everybody. What seems

1074
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 2: to be the case when you look at these two earlies.

1075
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: I've got Texas at one. I know you do. Yeah,

1076
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 1: why do you have them? All the way down at seven.

1077
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 2: They haven't succeeded on a high level consistently under Steve Sarkisian.

1078
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: Now with expectations, I am never a huge like let's

1079
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: get the band back together kind of guy. Will mus

1080
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: Champ returning to Texas. I understand why they made that move.

1081
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 2: It was a disappointing year on really both sides of

1082
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: the ball for Texas, all things considered, and how well

1083
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 2: they've recruited and developed guys at certain positions. I didn't

1084
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: love that they weren't able to find receiving like consistent

1085
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 2: receiving play last year, consistent offensive line play last year,

1086
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: consistent quarterback play last year, that the secondary you know,

1087
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: beat up at times, obviously took a step back. That

1088
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: the quarterback of this defense, and Anthony Hill is you know,

1089
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: off to now greener pastors in the NFL. It's a

1090
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 2: little bit too revolving a door for me without the proven,

1091
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 2: consistent results. I understand the upside in Texas is very high.

1092
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 2: I understand arch Manning with another offseason as the guy,

1093
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 2: maybe he gets into a better rhythm now Camp Coleman

1094
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: bringing in a guy who can take the top off

1095
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: of a defense at his very best. I think is

1096
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: crazy enticing.

1097
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: When he catches the ball.

1098
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 2: When he catches the ball, I think he'll catch the ball.

1099
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: They lose a good amount to the portal gain a

1100
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: good amount, Like I think Rasheene Biles is a really

1101
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: strong addition at linebacker. There's a lot to like about

1102
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: this Texas team. But the schedule being what it is,

1103
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: Texas has their hosting Ohio State, right.

1104
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: The host Ohio State. Yeah, it's a tough schedule.

1105
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 2: You know, either Oklahoma or Texas is always going to

1106
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 2: have a loss on their schedule. That's quick math for me, tying, Uh,

1107
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: you're wondering. I think they have the potential to be really,

1108
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 2: really strong. I just listen to Texas fans right when

1109
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: in doubt go to the source, and Texas fans are

1110
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: still like, oh, I don't know, it feels good to

1111
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: beat Texas A I just I don't know. And so

1112
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to go with them as like

1113
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 2: good but not convincingly great.

1114
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I will get Texas.

1115
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 3: I say it's twelve starters back ish from the twenty

1116
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 3: five team. As many as seven starters came over in

1117
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: the portal. They were objectively a very good team in

1118
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. They may not have been a playoff team,

1119
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 3: but they were a good team.

1120
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: I just think it was the hype.

1121
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 3: The hype was one year too early for arch Manning

1122
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 3: in the squad after his concussion. He was a different quarterback.

1123
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 3: He was one of the best in the country, but

1124
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 3: it took a minute until he settled in, until he

1125
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: became himself, until he started making quicker decisions back there.

1126
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 3: The problem for Texas was that they had a one

1127
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 3: dimensional offense and they couldn't run the ball right. And

1128
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 3: there was a problematic line that we knew about before

1129
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 3: the season, and we questioned and we sort of hand

1130
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 3: waved it a little bit.

1131
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: But it wasn't just that. In the end.

1132
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 3: Also, the defense took a step back, particularly against the pass.

1133
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: Now Pete Kwakowski is out as DC.

1134
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 3: In steps our old buddy Will musch Champ for his

1135
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 3: second tour of duty in Austin, YEP. But as he said,

1136
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 3: he loses Anthony Hill, which is a big loss. Does

1137
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: have Colin Simmons. It's good to have him back. I

1138
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 3: think ultimately they'll be fine on defense. I'm really interested

1139
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 3: in the upgrades on offense. I love Hollywood Smothers at

1140
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 3: running back. I think he's a home run hitter. I

1141
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 3: like ray Leak Brown, He's a tough runner. He at

1142
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 3: eleven hundred yards for ASU, we talk about Cam Coleman.

1143
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 3: Camp Coleman was kind of like the crown jewel at

1144
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 3: wide receiver in the portal. The line is still an

1145
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 3: open question though, like we can't hand wave it this year.

1146
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: The offensive line, to me is still an open question.

1147
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 3: There just aren't a whole lot of other weak spots

1148
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 3: on this team outside of what I mentioned, outside of

1149
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 3: the schedule, which is always going to be tough. But

1150
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 3: I found myself buying in again, perhaps to my detriment here,

1151
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 3: I've got Texas at one.

1152
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I see the upside. The upside is obvious. I

1153
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 2: have just I need to be sold. You know, you

1154
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 2: watch him and look, they don't have Georgia on the

1155
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: schedule this year, but you watch them lose by twenty

1156
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: five in the manner that they did these past couple

1157
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: of years to Georgia, and I guess Georgia twice in

1158
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:09,479
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four.

1159
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1160
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need to see Texas as that killer against

1161
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 2: the top of the sec before I fully believe it.

1162
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: And that's also having Ohio State on the schedule this year.

1163
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: You've got Texas at seven, I've got Georgia at seven. Okay,

1164
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: I have Georgia higher. Why do you have Georgia down

1165
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: at seven.

1166
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 3: I came into this thinking that Georgia would easily be

1167
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: a top three team. I came out of this exercise

1168
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 3: wondering if they were in the top five, and I

1169
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 3: ultimately decided they weren't.

1170
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: Okay.

1171
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 3: I like Gunner Stockton a lot. I really like Gunner Stockton.

1172
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 3: He is literally he is figuratively a dog.

1173
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: It's true.

1174
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 3: I like that they go about four deep at running back.

1175
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 3: This very much looks like a team that wants to

1176
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 3: run it down your throat. And I would say, to

1177
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 3: my eye, looks like they got seven or eight guys

1178
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 3: starting experience on defense.

1179
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: Or on offense.

1180
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 3: Excuse me, not defense. I'll get the defense in a second.

1181
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 3: So this is an experienced unit. My concern is that

1182
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 3: they're building this to be a tough rushing offense and

1183
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 3: they don't have the line that's all that great at

1184
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 3: run blocking. Okay, which has sort of been a recurring

1185
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 3: theme these last two seasons, hasn't it somewhat?

1186
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they also lose.

1187
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 3: Zachariah Branch, who was far and away their biggest weapon

1188
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 3: in the passing game. Yes, so I am just a

1189
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 3: little bit concerned, and I'm sure most of these fears

1190
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 3: will be layed at some point like week seven. But

1191
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 3: recording this in January, I look at this and I say,

1192
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 3: they want to be one thing, and I don't know

1193
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 3: if they have the personnel to support it, at least

1194
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 3: not along the line right.

1195
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 1: Defensively, they do lose CJ.

1196
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 3: Allen, who you mentioned earlier, but pretty much everyone else

1197
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 3: is back, and I think they'll be loaded defensively. So

1198
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: I like Georgia as the top ten team. I got

1199
01:01:54,720 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 3: him at seven. The schedule is Oklahoma, Vandy at Alabama, Auburn,

1200
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 3: that old Miss Georgia Tech's that's workable for Georgia. I

1201
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 3: think that's workable. So I like this team. Just have

1202
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 3: a few questions. That's why I was a little bit

1203
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 3: lower on him.

1204
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have so on this schedule, as you just

1205
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 2: sort of mentioned. So they have an Oklahoma team looking

1206
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 2: to find an average to above average offense, a Vanderbilt

1207
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: team without Diego pavia An Alabama team on the road,

1208
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: mind you replacing quarterback, an Auburn team replacing quarterback, an

1209
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: Old Miss team on the road, potentially replacing quarterback, Georgia

1210
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: Tech replacing quarterback and offensive coordinator, and that Georgia Tech game,

1211
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: I believe is an athens.

1212
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, an.

1213
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 2: Experienced defense against that schedule. And then you add in

1214
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,919
Speaker 2: the fact that they won the SEC by fact checking

1215
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 2: on this three touchdowns last year without an explosive offense, right, like,

1216
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: in terms of pop on this offense, Like you talk

1217
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: about Zachariah Brant, who, yes, really good, but wasn't like

1218
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: game changing in terms of how much you had to

1219
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: fear Georgia downfield good, they won huge games. He had

1220
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: really nice performances. I have nothing untoured to say about

1221
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: the contributions of Zachariah Branch. But it's not like they

1222
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 2: were winning because of an explosive offense and now that's gone.

1223
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 2: They were winning in spite of it. So I just

1224
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 2: I'm in on a quarterback with experience, who is a gamer,

1225
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 2: who makes plays, who improved over the course of the season,

1226
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: improving over the course of an off season, and they

1227
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 2: were just I don't know, they were like another worldly,

1228
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 2: chaotic game away from being in the final four this year, right,

1229
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: So you can use that as a negative that they

1230
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 2: weren't able to finish and beat a potentially vulnerable Ole

1231
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: Miss team without its head coach, or you can spin

1232
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 2: it as a positive that this is a growth opportunity

1233
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 2: that they were able to do it without getting that

1234
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 2: kind of pop. So I don't know, I'm gonna use

1235
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: it as that. And I have Georgia higher than you

1236
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 2: who got at six Indiana. I had Indiana at six.

1237
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: I moved them up a slot because I have Texas

1238
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 2: A and M at six. Now those are the two

1239
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 2: that I flipped when you were talking through why you

1240
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: had A and M. Well, why do you have Indiana here?

1241
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: I mean, it's either here or higher. They're just gonna

1242
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: continue to get more and more benefit of the doubt

1243
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 2: as the years go on. Of like, yes, they have

1244
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 2: important players to replace, And I don't think at the

1245
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 2: time of recording we've fully seen NFL decisions from a

1246
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 2: couple key guys.

1247
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: No, But I don't know. I'm just done doubting Indiana.

1248
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 2: And the only reason they're not higher is they didn't

1249
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: have injury luck this year. Because they did lose a

1250
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 2: couple of key guys to injury, but they didn't play

1251
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 2: a ton of dudes, and eventually they're going to have

1252
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 2: to play more guys because guys get beat up. And

1253
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 2: their scheduled this year, I think is a little bit trickier.

1254
01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: Not that I.

1255
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 2: Don't like Kurtzignett more than most, if not all, of

1256
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: these coaches, but Ohio State and USC at home, but

1257
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 2: at Michigan, at Washington, at Nebraska, but miss Oregon. But

1258
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: I mean they probably would have beaten Oregon regardless, So

1259
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 2: missing Oregon, you know, it's just it's a trickier schedule.

1260
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 2: They hit the portal hard at edge and receiver. Obviously

1261
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 2: Josh Hoover takes over at quarterback, but yeah, with nothing

1262
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 2: in the non conference portion of the schedule, they're just

1263
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 2: you get that immediate boost. I think Indiana's right in

1264
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 2: the top five vicinity once again and get more of

1265
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: a benefit of the doubt than a lot of teams

1266
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: because of what they accomplished these past couple of years. Yeah,

1267
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: they're gonna be really good again, Yeah they are. It's

1268
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 2: gonna look different on offense, though, you know, not to

1269
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 2: say that. Fernando Mendoza was Lamar Jackson back there, but.

1270
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: He won the heisman.

1271
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 3: Well, he won the Heisman, but also he's more mobile

1272
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 3: than Josh Hooper who. Yeah, Josh Hoover, who of course

1273
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 3: initially wanted to go to Indiana but then ended up

1274
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 3: at TCU, was now back at Indiana at long last.

1275
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 3: Both Omar Cooper Junior and Charlie Becker are back. They've

1276
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 3: added Nick marsh Yeah, who is a very much in

1277
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:15,479
Speaker 3: demand wide receiver, especially at Notre Dame from Michigan State.

1278
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 3: I think it'll be a prolific passing offense, but also

1279
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 3: a very quietly balanced attack that goes about three deep

1280
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 3: at running back. Bring over Turbo Richard from Boston College,

1281
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 3: a shorter dude who's kind of like a bowling ball,

1282
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 3: really good in space. I think they did a really

1283
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 3: good job in the transfer portal. I do think the

1284
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 3: line on defense takes a small step back. They look

1285
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 3: gettable to me on the ground if you can get

1286
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 3: to the perimeter. But this is going to be a

1287
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 3: really good secondary. All the corners are back, there's continuity

1288
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 3: at safety.

1289
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: It takes all.

1290
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 2: We don't know on D'Angelo Ponds, we don't know on

1291
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 2: D'Angelo Pond's right. But even still, they're going to have

1292
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 2: a ton of continuity in the secondary. It's going to

1293
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 2: take a very physical rushing team to beat Indiana, I

1294
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 2: would say, consistently. And there just aren't a whole lot

1295
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: of those in the schedule. There really aren't. Look, and

1296
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 2: if this team is, you know, or if this program

1297
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 2: is the the factory and training that we perceive it

1298
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: to be, you now have a guy or you now

1299
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 2: you have guys from two years ago and last year

1300
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 2: high school guys coming in that are not being counted

1301
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: on right away with how hard they've.

1302
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: Hit the portal.

1303
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 2: That's right, that will be counted on and trusted more

1304
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,479
Speaker 2: as rotation guys, if not starters with their practice time

1305
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 2: in the system that they'll be able to build depth upon.

1306
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 2: You know, the transfer contribution.

1307
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, So I've got Indiana I five.

1308
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 3: I have A and M at six, Okay on mine

1309
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 3: and I don't need to rehash too much of the

1310
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 3: A and M conversation. The only thing that I'll add

1311
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 3: that I don't think you mentioned. They brought over Isaiah

1312
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 3: Horton from Bama out wide, so they lose Casey Concepsia

1313
01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 3: and they bring over Isaiah Hort and it is not

1314
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 3: like for like, but it is a name. It is

1315
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 3: a player who's been productive. There are some losses along

1316
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 3: that line. They did work on that front, yep, and

1317
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 3: I think at worst they have really good options along

1318
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 3: their line. But as you mentioned earlier, it's definitely something

1319
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 3: worth keeping tabs on. But they bring back Tari and York.

1320
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 3: I really like Ray Coney, the linebacker transfer they brought

1321
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 3: over in the portal from Tulsa. He was really productive

1322
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 3: at one hundred and twenty eight tackles, a really good

1323
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 3: all round player can collect for the.

1324
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: Edge dude, the edge dude from Northwestern Antosaka. Yeah.

1325
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 3: So I think they did a really good job in

1326
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 3: the portal and I think Texas A and M is

1327
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 3: going to be loaded again.

1328
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a very very good team.

1329
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: The schedule, though, is.

1330
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 3: Mind bogglingly brutal, really really difficult. I don't know if

1331
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 3: I see them making it through that unscathe. Well, there's

1332
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 3: also just like the Ashanti Marcel Reid question. True, he

1333
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,959
Speaker 3: finished out the season against the toughest of their competition

1334
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 3: in a year where they did not necessarily have the

1335
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 3: toughest competition, but he gets a full off season as

1336
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 3: the dude once again, Like, it's not unfair to expect

1337
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 3: more improvement from this passing attack, and what he offers

1338
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 3: with his legs in addition to that is monstrous at

1339
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 3: its best.

1340
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: So I get the optimism. So I already said, I

1341
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: have Indiana at five? Who do you have at five?

1342
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,759
Speaker 1: Texas Tech? Okay? Top five?

1343
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 2: Texas Tech, man top five. It's a great schedule. The

1344
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 2: schedule's awesome. They as expected hit the portal hard, they

1345
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 2: spent and good for them. Everybody should be as aggressive

1346
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: as Texas Tech is in team building, especially on the road.

1347
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 2: The schedule's awesome.

1348
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 3: You know you for a second, please do Texas Tech

1349
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 3: should go twelve and oh against this?

1350
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: Okay.

1351
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 2: The only reason they should go twelve and oh against this,

1352
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 2: I would pump the brakes is their defensive line was

1353
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 2: so special last year, so we're just not dealing with

1354
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: the same team. It could be very special once again

1355
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: because that is the focus of their portaling once again.

1356
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, right to sort of say twelve

1357
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 2: and oh in a power conference is saying, well, they've

1358
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 2: got answers everywhere and they're gonna be locked in and

1359
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna go. If they're going twelve and oh, then

1360
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 2: my math tells me you have them going twenty three

1361
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 2: and one in two years.

1362
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a lot to ask for. I got

1363
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 3: them twelve and oh, I do. I don't think they're

1364
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 3: necessarily a better team than some of the squads I

1365
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 3: am putting them in front of. But they might not

1366
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 3: be that far off. And the schedule is there, it

1367
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 3: sets up perfectly right. They look loaded. To me, they

1368
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 3: look loaded. They've got one of the best schedules in

1369
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 3: the America for a top ten caliber team.

1370
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: I think it's an upgraded quarterback. I am not.

1371
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 3: Fully on board with whatever they're paying Brendan Soresby. I

1372
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 3: like Brendan Soorsby. He had a nice year. I'm not

1373
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 3: gonna like throw all of my chips into the center

1374
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 3: of the table for Brendan Soorsby, Like I need to

1375
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 3: see this work before I'm willing to fully commit. But

1376
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,440
Speaker 3: I still think maybe an upgrade at quarterback given his mobility,

1377
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 3: They're probably going to be better at running back another

1378
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 3: year with their two guys that they tried it out

1379
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 3: there this year. Maybe a small step back at wide out,

1380
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 3: but still very very good and good lines on both

1381
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 3: sides of the ball. I still think they'll be a

1382
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 3: beast against the run, they'll be solid against the past.

1383
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 3: But to your point, it hurts to lose like David

1384
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 3: Bailey and Ramelo Hyde and Jacob Rodriguez. Yeah, of course

1385
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 3: these are these are big time contributors. My sense is

1386
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,719
Speaker 3: that losing Jay Rod will get a little bit easier

1387
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 3: to deal with because they bring down Austin Romain from

1388
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 3: Kansas State, who is not exactly like for like, but

1389
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 3: like another one of these all purpose linebackers that kind

1390
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 3: of does it all.

1391
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: And Ben Roberts is back. And Ben Roberts is.

1392
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 3: Back, who, of course was huge. I got him at three.

1393
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 3: I got Texas Tech all the way up at three.

1394
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: Okay, we disagree. Who do you got at four? Oregon? Oh?

1395
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oregon has a pretty workable.

1396
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: Non conference schedule. We went over the roster.

1397
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 2: It's Boise, It's new look Oklahoma State with Drew Mestamaker

1398
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 2: and Eric Morris and Caleb Hawkins, guys like that. Games

1399
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 2: in Stillwater, right, Games in Stillwater at t boone Pickens

1400
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 2: Stadium early early in the year. It's Maddox, Madson and

1401
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 2: Boise coming in. They were a pretty good team this

1402
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 2: year in the in the Mountain West. They're coming to Eugene,

1403
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 2: They're going to Ohio State, and they're going to USC.

1404
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 2: Those won't be easy. But there's no Jacoby Uh excuse me,

1405
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 2: there's no Yeah, Jacoby Lane and McKay lemon for USC.

1406
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 2: USC making changes on defense in terms of coordinator, and

1407
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: you know, some some big losses. But I think the

1408
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 2: portal once again, Ohio State's going to be new look

1409
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 2: on defense, but they should still be very good there

1410
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 2: a little less obvious pop on offense, should still be

1411
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 2: a very good offensive team. Returning to AM I A.

1412
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:04,759
Speaker 2: Smith and Julian saying and bo Jackson, I think Oregon's

1413
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 2: in a really good place. They have number one upside,

1414
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 2: but when you watch a team lose by thirty in

1415
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:18,759
Speaker 2: the final four, you'd like to see how they perform

1416
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 2: against the best of the sport before saying, yeah, I

1417
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 2: have them number one or I have them number two.

1418
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 2: I just maybe I'm a victim of the last two weeks,

1419
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 2: but I'm pumping the brakes on Oregon as a national

1420
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 2: title contender, even with Dante More returning like, if you

1421
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 2: were too blindly tell me facts about Oregon but not

1422
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 2: tell me who the team was, and say, like, look,

1423
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: they have a super productive, high caliber NFL like talent

1424
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 2: at quarterback returning for his fourth year in college. You know,

1425
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 2: a ton of production at running back and at wide

1426
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,919
Speaker 2: receiver and tight end and bringing back an entire productive

1427
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: defensive line, and huge upside at corner and safety and

1428
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 2: hitting the portal really well, you'd probably say.

1429
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: One or two.

1430
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 2: I just at this point the question is a January

1431
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 2: question with Oregon, and saying that, oh, I feel good

1432
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 2: about them as one or two sort of ignores the

1433
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 2: past couple seasons. So I have a number four, which

1434
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 2: is why, like I don't have Texas in the top two.

1435
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 2: Like the vibe is not there for me to say

1436
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: it's gonna be different this time without seeing how they

1437
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 2: go through a schedule.

1438
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: I've got notre dame at four.

1439
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 3: Okay, there are some very big questions about this team.

1440
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 3: I've got questions about running back after losing Jeremiah Love

1441
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 3: Jadarian Price. I've got questions about wide receiver. I was

1442
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 3: hoping they would get Nick Marsh. Nick Marsh decided he

1443
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 3: wanted to go to Indiana never made it on campus

1444
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 3: to visit South Bend. They do bring back Jordan Faison

1445
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 3: Jaden great house.

1446
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: Hopefully he's healthy.

1447
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 3: They brought over to guys from Ohio, the Quincy Porter,

1448
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 3: Milon Graham, so they're banking on something of a youth

1449
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 3: movement out wide.

1450
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: Hopefully one of those guys pops the cupboard is not.

1451
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 3: Bear though, they're just going to need a few guys

1452
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 3: to step up. I think the fundamentals of this team

1453
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 3: otherwise are very very solid. Their offensive line should be

1454
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 3: very good. Their defense looks absolutely loaded. Oh by the way, CJ.

1455
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 3: Carr is the early Heisman favorite at eight to one

1456
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 3: right now, and.

1457
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 2: They've been number one. I thought I saw arts was

1458
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 2: at like six to one. I saw him at eight

1459
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 2: to one.

1460
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 3: I don't know where alday, these odds move around one

1461
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 3: hundred times, so that's true. I might have just seen

1462
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 3: it at a different point. Either way, he's in the conversation.

1463
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 3: The schedule is again going to be something that people

1464
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 3: like to pick apart.

1465
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: But they've got Miami at home.

1466
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 3: They've got a neutral site game against Wisconsin and lambeau Field,

1467
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 3: which is actually be a cool setting. They are on

1468
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:58,959
Speaker 3: the road at BYU. Otherwise it looks very, very gettable

1469
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 3: for Notre Dame. If you listen into anything that Marcus

1470
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 3: Freeman said on the desk of college game Day when

1471
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 3: he was there, leave no doubt, Leave no doubt. So

1472
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 3: they're going to do their part to get back into

1473
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 3: this thing this year after being left for dead at

1474
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 3: I guess the first team out. I think they are

1475
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 3: primed and ready to go. They just need a little

1476
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 3: bit of clarity out wide. They just need somebody to

1477
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 3: step up, or a collection of guys to step up

1478
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 3: in the running back room. The good thing with the

1479
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 3: way that they have recruited, they have options. They're going

1480
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 3: to have a couple bites at the apple if they

1481
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 3: don't get it right the first try. So I would

1482
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 3: much rather have the quarterback of the future. Two really

1483
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 3: solid lines and a good defense that, by the way,

1484
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 3: they made better by bringing over a DJ McKinney. They

1485
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 3: brought over some help in the secondary. It sounds like

1486
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 3: they might move Christian Gray to slot corner and put

1487
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 3: McKinney out wide. He's more suited for that role. Obviously,

1488
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 3: they bring back Leonard More. They got two really good safeties.

1489
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 3: This should be an awesome defense in South Bend this year,

1490
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 3: and they've got a schedule here that sets them up

1491
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 3: for another playoff run. So we'll see if they get

1492
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 3: it done. Obviously, different circumstances this time around.

1493
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:16,759
Speaker 1: CJ.

1494
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 3: Carr having a full year under his belt, Miami coming

1495
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 3: to Indiana for that game. They'll be looking to get

1496
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 3: some revenge. I'm sure, but you could easily make a

1497
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 3: case put Notre Dame higher.

1498
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: I just put him at four.

1499
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 2: I'll make the case higher. Look the under thing express

1500
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 2: the ticket says good quarterback, promising offensive line, given who's

1501
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 2: returning developed running backs, we'll see on receiver, a lot

1502
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 2: to love about the defense, great schedule, that's a lot

1503
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 2: more than basically everybody, and basically everybody is turning.

1504
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 1: I mean you'll take that.

1505
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 2: They're gambling on some upside along the defensive line and

1506
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:57,719
Speaker 2: some upside at receiver.

1507
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 1: There's just not a lot that if you're a Notre

1508
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: Dame person saying.

1509
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 2: Like, man, I am truly worried about blank and I mean,

1510
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: the thing is this, even though Aneas Williams, who right

1511
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 2: now projects as like they're starting running back yea, even

1512
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 2: though he didn't get a lot of reps this past season.

1513
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 3: We did see him make some big plays during that

1514
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 3: playoff run when they went two years ago now to

1515
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 3: the national championship.

1516
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1517
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman, by the way, third year takes a team

1518
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 2: to the national championship in a twelve team era.

1519
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, And Niest Williams is a very capable back. They've

1520
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 3: also got you know, some other guys back there, Kedrin Young,

1521
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 3: who I'd be excited to see. But like, even on

1522
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 3: the receiver side of this conversation, these guys aren't stiffs.

1523
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: Okay, this is.

1524
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 3: Not like the cupboard is fully bare and they don't

1525
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 3: have anybody and they're looking for options. They have plenty

1526
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 3: of options. They just need to sort it out and

1527
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 3: figure out who pops. They didn't go hard after a

1528
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 3: running back. I think they like their options there, at

1529
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 3: least they like them good enough.

1530
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: I think that's smart.

1531
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 3: Wide receiver. They tried to get Nick marsh that didn't

1532
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 3: work out. Now they're gambling on a youth movement and

1533
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 3: hoping for some upside there. If one of those guys pops,

1534
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 3: then this whole thing is really a moot point. Tight

1535
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 3: End's another one where their tight.

1536
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: End's name is ty. I know, I know how can

1537
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 1: you hate on that. It's not hating.

1538
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 3: I'm just saying these are questions Eli Rariden going pro

1539
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 3: So look that these are questions most teams around college

1540
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 3: football would love to have. To have the fundamentals as

1541
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 3: good as they are if you're Marcus Freeman, to have

1542
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 3: only a few questions about skill positions where you have

1543
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 3: a bunch of options, that's a pretty good place to be,

1544
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 3: especially given the schedule. So you could definitely make them

1545
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 3: higher than four. I have met for as you know,

1546
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 3: I said earlier, I have Texas Tech at three? Who

1547
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 3: do you have at three?

1548
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: Georgia, which we've already discussed. Okay, so you want to

1549
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 1: go to two? Who do you got a two? Ohio State?

1550
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: Oh Man, you got Notre Dame one? Don't you Notre

1551
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 1: Dame number one? Gaundrel I got someone to say, okay,

1552
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State. I have Ohio State at two, by the way,

1553
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: so we finally get great together here.

1554
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 2: It's just there's a lot to like, a lot about

1555
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 2: what Ohio State should be able to do once again,

1556
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 2: despite their loss and the offense not being able to

1557
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 2: figure out how to deal with the absolute what do

1558
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,879
Speaker 2: I call the maniacs along the defensive line for Miami.

1559
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 2: Nobody could figure out what to do with those two

1560
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 2: dudes or those four dudes. Really, Julian's saying, we'll get

1561
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: better in terms of feeling pressure, in terms of what

1562
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 2: Ryan Day does and does not let him do. You know,

1563
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 2: Brian Hartline moves on good thing, bad thing, whatever your

1564
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 2: opinion at Ohio State is of his time, his short

1565
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 2: lived time as offensive coordinator.

1566
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: Once again, for.

1567
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 2: The buck Eyes, they have the best offensive just force

1568
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 2: in the sport. In Jeremiah Smith, I think Bo Jackson

1569
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 2: will continue to grow at running back. They have to

1570
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 2: improve along the offensive line in those bigger spots, and

1571
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: we saw some struggles against Indiana and Miami to say

1572
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: the least. They do replace a lot on defense and

1573
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 2: all three levels, but it's Sunny Styles at linebacker.

1574
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 3: Sonny Styles, larvl Reese, Caleb Bowns, Katie McDonald, Davis Son,

1575
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 3: Nigmund Nosen and and there are others too. Yeah, right,

1576
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 3: I think they did well in the portal to backfill.

1577
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: They did.

1578
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 2: They lost a ton of depth. They lost thirty plus

1579
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 2: dudes to the portal.

1580
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 3: But that's it's just so much walking out, you know,

1581
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 3: Like I have no doubt that Ohio State's going to

1582
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 3: be able to attract really good talent and they'll be fine.

1583
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: But it's just a lot.

1584
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 2: It's a lot walking out the number all those guys, right,

1585
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 2: it's who's stepping in, right, who's replacing, Like somebody like

1586
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 2: Carnell Tait moving on to the NFL, Max Clair moving

1587
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 2: on to the NFL. Like, it's just a question of

1588
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 2: when you are some of these places, and this is

1589
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 2: going to happen to all of these places that recruit

1590
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 2: high school super well, Alabama over the Georgia over the years,

1591
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Oregon had a huge exodus this year. You're

1592
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 2: just a lot of these schools are going to say

1593
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 2: Texas had a lot of dudes leave. You have a

1594
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: lot of guys saying I'm not getting playing time and

1595
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 2: I'm entering year three and it doesn't look like I'm

1596
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 2: going to start this year. I want to put something

1597
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 2: on tape for the NFL and the school saying I

1598
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 2: don't know if we can pay you like a starter

1599
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 2: when it's pretty clear you're not going to be an

1600
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 2: obvious starter at left guard or free safety or whatever.

1601
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 2: So a lot of these schools are hitting the portal

1602
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 2: have to contend with that kind of movement and convince

1603
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 2: the guys to come in to be rotation players or

1604
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 2: compete for a starting job and not necessarily be handed one.

1605
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 2: In Ohio State, it's one of those programs, but the

1606
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,799
Speaker 2: guys who are obviously stars or stars in the making

1607
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 2: make this Ohio State team, which yes, goes on the

1608
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 2: road and plays Texas this year, but otherwise it's at Iowa,

1609
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 2: at Indiana, at usc which is not easy. They host

1610
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 2: Oregon and as men, and they hit the portal hard

1611
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:06,440
Speaker 2: for guys in the defensive backfield and along the defensive line.

1612
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 1: I just think their starting position is really nice.

1613
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 3: I mean, we're potentially looking at twenty guys with starting experience. Yeah,

1614
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 3: so there's a lot walking out, especially on defense, but

1615
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 3: you lose Carnell Tate, Max Claire as well both Quincy

1616
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 3: Porter and Mileon Graham, who I mentioned go to nd

1617
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 3: in the portal. They're bringing over Devin McEwan, the receiver

1618
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 3: from UTSA to goal, along with Jeremiah Smith and Brandon

1619
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 3: Innes out wide. I like that addition, and say what

1620
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 3: you will about the line, but they've got four starters

1621
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 3: back and hopefully there will be improvement if only for

1622
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,799
Speaker 3: Bo Jackson to take a big step forward.

1623
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 1: As we saw, they gave him more of the football

1624
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: later on in the year and he answered the bell.

1625
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: I thought he was really good. So with all that,

1626
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 1: obviously Julian Sayan is coming back. He's going to be

1627
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: one of the early Heisman front runners as well. He

1628
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: should be. He had an incredible year in Columbus this year,

1629
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm bullish on Ohio State.

1630
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 3: The schedule is at Texas early, at Indiana, at Iowa,

1631
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 3: at USC home against Oregon. That is not an easy slate. No,

1632
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 3: that is not an easy slate. And per my set

1633
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 3: of rankings here, it's one versus two very early yep

1634
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 3: on the road at Texas this year. So I've got

1635
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 3: Texas at one. I won't rehash that one, and you've

1636
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 3: got Notre Dame at one.

1637
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 2: Notre Dame at one. I'm just I'll review it very plainly.

1638
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 2: Ty Wisconsin new quarterback search for an offense. Michigan State

1639
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 2: new full time starting quarterback obviously in Milla Vojevich and

1640
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,719
Speaker 2: Pat Fitzgerald perdue A ways to go on offense, North

1641
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 2: Carolina ways to go on offense at BUYU will be tough.

1642
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 1: YEP.

1643
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 2: I think Notre Dame is better Navy. They're gonna beat Navy.

1644
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 2: That's I think at Gillette and Fox a new look

1645
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 2: Miami team somewhat, But that game's in South Bend. Boston

1646
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 2: College a ways to go on offense, SMU should be

1647
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 2: pretty good, YEP. Games in South Bend Steve Aangeli and

1648
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,719
Speaker 2: the JMA obvious loss Stanford.

1649
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: At Notre Dame. They're just gonna be favorite in all

1650
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 1: of these games. They are.

1651
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 2: And I just think your absolute worst case scenario is

1652
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 2: eleven and one. And if your absolute worst case scenario

1653
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 2: is eleven and one, to me, you're the number one

1654
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 2: team in the nation.

1655
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 3: Well, and you know, I the only thing that I

1656
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 3: would say. In addition, you're right, You're one hundred percent right.

1657
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 3: I don't think you put them at one solely because

1658
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 3: of the schedule. No, it's not much like I'm putting

1659
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,759
Speaker 3: Texas Tech at three, not solely because of the schedule.

1660
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 3: I'm putting them at three because I like the team.

1661
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 3: I'm giving them a bump because I like the schedule.

1662
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 3: But this is still easily a top five team. And

1663
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 3: I deliberated with how high I wanted to put Notre

1664
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 3: Dame as well. I think you can make a case

1665
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 3: for them to be all the way up at number one.

1666
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 3: You could probably make a case for them to be

1667
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 3: anywhere inside the top eight if you really want to,

1668
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't go much lower than that because they

1669
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:10,799
Speaker 3: look to be set up really, really well for this season.

1670
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put this on tape January twenty first, twenty

1671
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 2: twenty six, Notre Dame, Oregon Vegas National Championship twenty twenty

1672
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: twenty seven, twenty twenty twenty seven.

1673
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 1: Twenty fifth, twenty twenty seven.

1674
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 2: January twenty fifth, twenty twenty seven. You heard it here first,

1675
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 2: and I might be very wrong, but look, it's not schedule,

1676
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 2: it's coach quarterback defense schedule. I don't think anybody ticks

1677
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 2: those boxes as thoroughly as Notre Dame in January, nine

1678
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 2: months out. So that's my number one team.

1679
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 3: If we have a solid of her Bowl in Vegas, A,

1680
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 3: we have to go B. One of us is going

1681
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,759
Speaker 3: to end up face down in a drained pool somewhere

1682
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 3: after that game.

1683
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 2: I am such an early sleeper that I will be

1684
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 2: so well rested for that game. We'll have nice dinners

1685
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 2: at five thirty tie.

1686
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1687
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:06,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, ah, it'll be great manageable flight for me. Plenty

1688
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 2: of hotel rooms, yep, that's ideal. So yeah, they're my

1689
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 2: number one team in America.

1690
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 3: Way in solid verbal at gmail dot com. Leave a

1691
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 3: comment wherever you can. We would love to hear from

1692
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 3: you where we were right, where we were wrong, but

1693
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 3: more where we were right. Please, thank you very much.

1694
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 3: It's been a long season. Yes, if you have yet

1695
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,720
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1696
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1697
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1698
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1699
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:42,400
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1700
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Speaker 3: on our discord server. If you fancy yourself a college

1701
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 3: football twenty six player, we have dynasties that are going Dan.

1702
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 3: I've got a big transfer portal cycle right now going on.

1703
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,759
Speaker 3: I am the head coach at Louisville. We're very excited.

1704
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 1: Look at you, very excited about what this year has

1705
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 1: Now are you going to be?

1706
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 2: Is there a patch you can download to make twenty

1707
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 2: twenty six rosters portal accurate? Like is Lincoln Keenholtz your

1708
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 2: starting quarterback for Louisville.

1709
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no no, because you.

1710
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 2: Went into the portal and got like CJ. We started

1711
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 2: more all sorts of stuff.

1712
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, we started with the roster at the beginning of

1713
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 3: this year, and I think we're now three years into it.

1714
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: So I am.

1715
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 3: I am currently dealing with the situation though where I'm

1716
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 3: going after CJ. Carr, Bryce Underwood, and Dante Moore, all

1717
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,600
Speaker 3: of them are in the portal and potentially interested in

1718
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 3: coming to Louisville.

1719
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 2: And a lot is Papa John donating once again in

1720
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:37,879
Speaker 2: this universe to the Louisville program.

1721
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know. We got to pass around the

1722
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: hat to get CJ.

1723
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 2: Carr Man, Okay, I think you should after this dynasty.

1724
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 2: I think you should. You should reset with twenty twenty

1725
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 2: six rosters.

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01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 1: I don't even know how there's a pet that. I

1727
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 1: don't think they have no idea either.

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01:28:56,720 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 2: Ty, Yeah, I'm trying to get a Super Nintendo on

1729
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 2: for my kids. We found a Super Nintendo in my

1730
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 2: wife's childhood basement, and I ordered some games on eBay

1731
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 2: for like eight dollars apiece. And I got to tell you,

1732
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 2: it's still bangs time. It still slaps. It's whatever the

1733
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 2: kids are saying, like the Donkey Kong Country music still incredible.

1734
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 2: We played a little bit of madd in Little NHL

1735
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 2: ninety four, Little NBA Live.

1736
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 1: Was.

1737
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 3: I was more of an NHL ninety five guy. But

1738
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 3: Nshell ninety four was you can make somebody's head bleed

1739
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 3: in that one.

1740
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: That was fun.

1741
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,799
Speaker 2: Yes, and listen, I know people that are like new

1742
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 2: like third party versions of Super Nintendo that are like

1743
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 2: Hdmi and up convert everything, and they're they're cooler, and

1744
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 2: there's no, no, no, no, We've got the old I do

1745
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 2: have an HDMI converter to plug it into a more

1746
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 2: modern TV, but I've got the old wired controllers, the

1747
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 2: old SNS feel controllers, not third party controllers.

1748
01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:58,599
Speaker 1: Purist at heart.

1749
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 2: I just anytime I have like a dad friend come over,

1750
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 2: they're like, I'm sorry, we can do what we can

1751
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 2: spend the next hour and a half playing what yeah man,

1752
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:11,879
Speaker 2: and it's a good time. So forget about my knowledge

1753
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,639
Speaker 2: with the We're on PS five now, that's the number.

1754
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: We're on here in PS five. Yeah, I have no concept.

1755
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure at some point I'm gonna have to buy

1756
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 2: whatever iteration of a switch is now out. For my kids,

1757
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 2: I'm putting that off as long as humanly possible. They're

1758
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 2: under the impression that, like, yeah, we all talk about

1759
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 2: Super Nintendo at school, right, but as of now I

1760
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,759
Speaker 2: have no working knowledge of what's going on in whatever.

1761
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 2: The new iteration of an xbox or PS five is beautiful,

1762
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 2: all right, Well.

1763
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 1: Why don't we leave it there again? Weigh and let

1764
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 1: us know where we're right, where we're wrong. We'd love

1765
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 1: to hear from you, this being, of course, the first

1766
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: episode of the twenty twenty six preseason. We will be

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01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 1: back your way next week. Again.

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01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 3: We have flipped it over officially now to two per week,

1769
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 3: so make sure you refresh your feeds every Tuesday and Thursday.

1770
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 1: We've got a whole lot of fun stuff planned in

1771
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: the meantime for that guy over there, Dan, for myself

1772
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:08,759
Speaker 1: over here, Ty. Enjoy your weekend as they saw peace