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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody.

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Speaker 2: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 2: We are in the midst of the DNC going on

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Speaker 2: in Chicago. I will say, it's a very nice time

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Speaker 1: So they got that going for them.

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Speaker 2: It is tonight that Kamala Harris will accept formally the

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Speaker 2: presidential nomination, which is which is interesting because she was

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Speaker 2: essentially gifted the whole thing. Anyway, something that hasn't gotten

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Speaker 2: anywhere near enough attention is that it's not as though

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is a VP who took over as a

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Speaker 2: president and therefore found herself Clay, in a situation where

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Speaker 2: you know, she is the incumbent and therefore understandably is

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Speaker 2: the nominee. They just said, well, Biden stinks at this

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Speaker 2: and it's going to lose. We got to come up

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Speaker 2: with somebody else. Hey, you're going to be the person

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Speaker 2: forget about the prime we had. It is so anti

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Speaker 2: democratic and I think that we're seeing some indicators Clay

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Speaker 2: that that is going to be part of why RFK

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Speaker 2: Junior is moving in the direction. It is not confirmed yet,

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Speaker 2: but I mean, at this point it would be a

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Speaker 2: huge shock if it didn't happen, is moving in the

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Speaker 2: direction of a Trump endorsement on Friday, which could if

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Speaker 2: you have a lackluster Kamala performance tonight, which I think

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Speaker 2: is effectively guaranteed to anybody who has you know, ears

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Speaker 2: and is being honest, and you have the RFK announcement tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: this DNC is gonna end up being a whole lot

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Speaker 2: of nothing. I think this is credit to Trump and

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Speaker 2: his team. So far, the RFK Junior news has the

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Speaker 2: potential in terms of its political impact, to completely snow

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Speaker 2: under anything that happened at the DNC. And in fact,

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Speaker 2: the gambling markets are telling you that that's the story

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Speaker 2: right now, because we told you yesterday, Hey, pay attention

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Speaker 2: before really very many people were talking about it at all.

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Speaker 2: There's really interesting movement here in the gambling markets. RFK

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Speaker 2: It's a foregone conclusion. We finished the show yesterday telling

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Speaker 2: you that that seemed very likely, and as a result,

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Speaker 2: during the course of the DNC, Kamala Harris hasn't gotten

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Speaker 1: You usually get from the DNC.

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Speaker 2: She's actually so far in the gambling markets seen the

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Speaker 2: opposite of a bound, so it's a regression, a decline,

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Speaker 2: a deficit. She is now trailing Trump, and let's get

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Speaker 2: into the nitty gritty on the numbers, Buck, because presuming

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Speaker 2: tomorrow and this could happen live during our program, we've

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Speaker 2: got JD vance by the way, on the show tomorrow

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Speaker 2: hearing us talk with him. I believe he scheduled one

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Speaker 2: o'clock eastern tomorrow. And oh, by the way, we're also

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Speaker 2: talking with Texas Governor Greg Abbott at two thirty eastern

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Speaker 2: in the third hour of this program. He's gonna be

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Speaker 2: on with us today. He's the only guest JD right now,

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Speaker 2: I believe is the only guest tomorrow. Reason why I

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Speaker 2: bring that up. If RFK Junior, as we believe he will,

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Speaker 2: he's in Phoenix, and then potentially later that same day

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Speaker 2: officially endorses Trump. The data and you were right on this.

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Speaker 2: Our intuition was right on this, Buck, is that roughly

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Speaker 2: RFK Junior voters were otherwise Trump voters by about a

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Speaker 2: If you look at where the five percent of his

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Speaker 1: Point one or point two percent overall in some of

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Speaker 2: And I just look at it, and I think this

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Speaker 2: Josh Shapiro. He's way smarter than Tim Walls. He's in

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Speaker 2: a state that matters far more. Right now, if you

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Speaker 2: look at all the data, effectively, who wins Pennsylvania looks

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to take away the importance of other

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Speaker 1: He's the president. Now.

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Speaker 2: I want him to win all those other battleground states.

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Speaker 2: I want you guys voting as hard as you can,

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Speaker 2: very complicated picture to win. I come back. We were

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Speaker 2: But after watching Josh Shapiro even more Buck, I cannot

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Speaker 2: believe that Kamala Harris picked this moron Tim Walls over

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Speaker 1: It's not even remotely close.

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Speaker 2: There only have been two, as we talked about the

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Speaker 2: That's what they're really talking about. Okay, that's the real deal.

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Speaker 2: reasons to not pick Shapiro for Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I mean, both of them look. Both of them are

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Speaker 2: And my point on this is, if you're looking at

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Speaker 2: You can attack him on policy issues, you can disagree

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Speaker 2: with him politically, the guy is really really smart, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So he is a very intelligent VP. I think he

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Speaker 2: I got a little bit, a little bit of messages.

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Speaker 1: I'm worried about JD.

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Speaker 2: I don't think JD was the right Pickbuck, Why did

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Speaker 1: He is walking into.

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Speaker 2: Bear trap after bear trap and laughing as they try

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Speaker 2: He is not somebody who is going to be making

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Speaker 2: to go on offense against Walls and Commala mind you

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Speaker 2: cause a big problem for the ticket, that's.

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Speaker 1: What you need. I don't think there's any doubt.

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Speaker 2: But you combine RFK Junior dropping out and endorsing Trump,

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Speaker 2: message to you guys, hey, don't wait till election day.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead and get your vote tallied. Let them focus

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Speaker 2: if I were a Democrat, maybe you can vote after

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Speaker 2: your dad too. I really think this Walls decision is

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Speaker 4: For her.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: I just think the more you look at his record, Buck,

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Speaker 2: you are right about this. COVID was an intelligence test,

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Speaker 2: never had more consequential power in your entire life, in

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Speaker 2: tells us everything we need to know about you. Wall

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Speaker 2: Think about how I want to curse so bad. Think

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Speaker 1: He failed.

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Speaker 2: And that doesn't even consider all the lies he's told.

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Speaker 2: different kind of Democrats. It's a fraud. Just like we

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Speaker 2: doubt that's what they're trying to pull here. I am

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Speaker 2: interested to hear what are people? What you all think?

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Speaker 2: Can I do y'all what y'all think?

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Speaker 1: There we go?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, it's gonna be like Democrats using folks. I

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Speaker 2: know I was gonna say. I'm sitting here in my

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Speaker 2: camo hat saying y'all. Every time I hear somebody say

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama started it. Folks are always saying like folks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, absolutely, But I look, I want to throw

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Speaker 2: it's helpful. How do you feel about RFK Junior being

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Speaker 1: Do you like this?

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Speaker 2: That's a different question than do we want him to

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Speaker 2: endorse Trump. At this point, all are welcome, all hands

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Speaker 2: Jenet writes, Clay, your liberalism is showing again in that

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Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us, and we

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Speaker 2: From a pure mathematical perspective, Let's say that RFK Junior

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Speaker 2: bring him in Julie in Boise, Idaho. Uh, what's your

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Speaker 4: I think that he'd be great with the Trump administration

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Speaker 2: Julie, would you were you planning on voting for RFK

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Speaker 4: I would absolutely vote for him, and then if he lost,

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Speaker 2: Wow, so you will now be voting Trump if RFK

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Speaker 2: I mean Kamela Kamala, She's like I can't do communism. Guys, Yes,

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Speaker 3: Jerry, basically, my apologies to Julian advance RFK. His views

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Speaker 2: for yourself on this one, but I think that and

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Speaker 2: Mike is bringing up some of these issues, you know,

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Speaker 2: For me, the the first objection was I thought all along,

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Speaker 2: like the evolution of my RFK thinking, first of all,

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Speaker 2: he's a Democrat, I don't trust him. Okay, I start,

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Speaker 2: I start from that, I don't trust them politically, right.

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Speaker 2: But the bigger thing for me was, okay, I didn't care.

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Speaker 2: They were used to be saying, oh, he's pulling more

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Speaker 2: from Democrats. That was not true. He's pulling more Trump votes.

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Speaker 2: So I really want Donald Trump to win this election.

448
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Speaker 2: I've always really wanted Donald Trump to win this election.

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Speaker 2: Anybody as a third party candidate who would threaten that

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Speaker 2: by being a spoiler that frustrates me. Now it seems

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Speaker 2: we're getting away from that, and looks like he's gonna

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Speaker 2: endorse Trump. So now he'd be on the team. He's

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Speaker 2: on the t If he gets on the Trump train,

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Speaker 2: that's great, he's welcome. The layer Beyond that for me, though,

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Speaker 2: is okay. But if he's in a Trump administration, is

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Speaker 2: he trustworthy on policy? Because those are not the same thing.

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Speaker 2: My thoughts on RFK junior win Biden was the nominee

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Speaker 2: was there are a lot of people who aren't comfortable

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Speaker 2: jumping from one party to another. That is if you're

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Speaker 2: a Democrat. Traditionally it's hard to go straight to Republican.

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Speaker 2: If you're a Republican, it's hard to go straight to Democrat.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times, what third parties do is they

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Speaker 2: are stepping stones to a party change.

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Speaker 1: I've seen this in my life.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, do you see this more as a

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Speaker 2: convert to conservatism?

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Speaker 1: Correct?

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm like the weird monk who's been living

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Speaker 2: in the conservative monastery since I was fourteen. You're a convert, right,

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Speaker 2: so you can see how somebody with new information, new understanding,

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Speaker 2: and perception can switch over.

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Speaker 1: In that way, for better or worse.

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Speaker 2: I'm persuadable, And what I mean by that is I'm

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Speaker 2: willing to challenge my pre existing opinions. If you show

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Speaker 2: me data and you make a strong argument, I will

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Speaker 2: look at it and say, hey, you know what, I

477
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Speaker 2: got this one wrong. I think there are a lot

478
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Speaker 2: of people out there listening to us right now that

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Speaker 2: may have voted in twenty sixteen Hillary, that may have

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Speaker 2: voted in twenty twenty for Joe Biden, and they are

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Speaker 2: willing to recognize that they might have gotten it wrong.

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Speaker 2: But jumping all the way to Trump was a too

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Speaker 2: big of a bridge for them. So RFK Junior was

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Speaker 2: the happy meeting. He's the gate RFK Junior is the

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Speaker 2: gateway drug to MAGA.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 2: I think there is some truth to that, and I

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Speaker 2: think there are a lot of people, I'm partly one

489
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Speaker 2: of them, that are still so angry about COVID that

490
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Speaker 2: they're unhappy with how Trump handled COVID and the fact

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Speaker 2: that he beat DeSantis. That's a I don't know ten percent,

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Speaker 2: like I said, of our audience, and they were going

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Speaker 2: to go RFK Junior because of that. We need to

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Speaker 2: play the audio when we come back. Maybe we can

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Speaker 2: do that. I thought Trump was brilliant yesterday in Asheville.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much attention it got, but he

497
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Speaker 2: said something and we've been arguing on this show for years,

498
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Speaker 2: maybe in the first time he said it, at least

499
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Speaker 2: publicly at a rally. He said, Hey, if you're in

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Speaker 2: the military and you got fired because you wouldn't get

501
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Speaker 2: the COVID shot, I will rehire you, and I will

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Speaker 2: you know, apologize on behalf of the United States government,

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Speaker 2: and I'll give you full back pay. That absolutely should happen,

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Speaker 2: by the way, billion percent should happen. Credit to Trump

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Speaker 2: for saying it. But if you're out there and you're

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Speaker 2: angry about COVID, okay, this is something tangible an apology

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Speaker 2: from the United States.

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Speaker 1: Position.

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Speaker 2: I would say it should be any position, period, but

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Speaker 2: the federal government doesn't have that power necessarily. But I

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Speaker 2: will play that audio for you when we come back.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was fabulous from Trump yesterday at Asheville.

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Speaker 2: I think Trump is starting to get his sea legs

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Speaker 2: in this battle against Kamala. I think he was a

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Speaker 2: little bit wayward for the first couple of weeks. He

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Speaker 2: didn't know how to address her because he'd been fighting

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Speaker 2: Biden for so long.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't able to.

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Speaker 2: Pivot to readjust. He had to readjust. It's a different fighter,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's a different situation that he's in. But

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Speaker 2: that's why I've you know, some people were getting a

522
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Speaker 2: little little freaked out. I was telling them, we need

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Speaker 2: to keep our composure, We need to keep our composure.

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Speaker 1: And we'll be just fine. Uh, what do you want

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Speaker 1: to do? One warrior?

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Speaker 2: We've got so many calls on this issue. I think

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Speaker 2: it's listing David and Grand Rapids, Michigan.

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Speaker 7: What have you got for us David, hey claim, but hey,

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Speaker 7: first and foremost, thanks for everything you guys do, so

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Speaker 7: thank you. I just want to I just want to

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Speaker 7: give a little take. Obviously, I'll take any additional votes

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Speaker 7: wherever we can get him. And I think his endorsement,

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Speaker 7: I think would be would be good. Obviously everybody knows

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Speaker 7: he's a smart individual. Let me throw this out there, like,

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Speaker 7: what if in the administration, like Trump said, hey, let's

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Speaker 7: have you be in charge of the CIA, Like that's

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Speaker 7: your wheelhouse?

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Speaker 2: Buck, what do you think about the idea of RFK?

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Speaker 2: Sorry to cut you off, but we got literally a

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Speaker 2: CIA officer for seven years who's on the show. So

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Speaker 2: I mean your this is your wheelhouse. Your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: RFK Junior a CIA director? Do you want to hold it.

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Speaker 1: And answer on the flip side?

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Speaker 2: Why don't we Why don't we come back to that

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Speaker 2: because the need to be there needs to be a

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Speaker 2: little nuance, which I know sounds like a fancy French

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Speaker 2: for wimpy, but there needs to be a little nuance

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Speaker 2: in the answer to this question because I gotta put

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Speaker 2: together a few things, all right, We'll come to it

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Speaker 2: in a second, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you weighing in emailing and calling over

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Speaker 2: the RFK junior issue, so we'll get to more of

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Speaker 2: that in the next hour. We've also got Governor of Texas,

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Speaker 2: Greg Abbott, will be with us so we can talk

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Speaker 2: to him about the border. We have not forgotten the border,

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Speaker 2: one of the biggest, most important issues of all policy

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Speaker 2: conundrums out there, and the horrific Biden border. It's the

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Speaker 2: worst it's ever been, ten million plus illegals piling into

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Speaker 2: the country in four years. The expense of this on

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Speaker 2: the taxpayer, never mind the social and just rule of

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Speaker 2: law costs, the whole thing is an absolute disaster. Now

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Speaker 2: Clay asked me a question, and I think this is

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Speaker 2: I feel like I need to do a whole podcast

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Speaker 2: on this or something. But there has been a lot

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Speaker 2: of criticism on the right of the CIA and the

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Speaker 2: intelligence community. And as you know, I was a CIA analyst,

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Speaker 2: just a lowly CIA analyst, no big shot over there,

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Speaker 2: but I was a CIA analyst for years and I

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Speaker 2: can tell you this that there are just like the FBI,

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Speaker 2: there are very good patriots who work in some of

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Speaker 2: these institutions, and you actually need these institutions to function.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason why every developed country in the world

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Speaker 2: has a foreign intelligence service. There's a reason why our

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Speaker 2: own foreign intelligence service is really based upon as a blueprint,

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Speaker 2: the British six. And you know, there's a whole history

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Speaker 2: of this we could talk about another time. But Clay,

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Speaker 2: it's actually the domestic intelligence service that's more concerning. We

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Speaker 2: have the FBI, which is a law enforcement agency, not

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Speaker 2: strictly speaking an intelligence agency, although it does some of

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Speaker 2: those functions. RFK as CIA director, if he allows the

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Speaker 2: Director of Operations and Director of Intelligence to really run

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Speaker 2: the day to day and RFK is just looking at

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Speaker 2: it as a bureaucratic manager, if you will, who's trying

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Speaker 2: to shape the leviathan of the intelligence community, sharpen it up,

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Speaker 2: create more accountability, you know, almost like bringing in a consultant,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, to downsize, downscale and streamline. Now,

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Speaker 2: to me, Elon Musk would be better at that. But

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Speaker 2: that's a whole other part of this conversation. But do

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Speaker 2: I think that RFK junior has the understanding of tradecraft

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Speaker 2: and intelligence in the twenty first century to be able

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Speaker 2: to function at a high level in that job. That's

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Speaker 2: a little bit trickier, Like you do have to it's

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Speaker 2: a little bit like saying to me, hey, do you

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Speaker 2: think this guy would be a great attorney general. He

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Speaker 2: doesn't have a law degree, but he's really smart. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe he could be attorney general without a

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Speaker 2: law degree, but I think you actually want to know

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Speaker 2: a little bit about the world of intelligence.

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Speaker 1: That is my honest answer. It's a good answer.

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Speaker 2: So there trying to decide where in particular he could

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Speaker 2: end up, and some one of the discussions been CIA,

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Speaker 2: you have way more expertise on that. By the way,

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Speaker 2: let me clear up one thing. Apologies, North Carolina. I

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Speaker 2: said that Trump spoke in Ashville yesterday. It's actually, let's

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Speaker 2: see Ashborough. And I didn't know that there was an Ashborough.

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Speaker 2: I saw ash I think I automatically saw you that

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Speaker 2: don't know fun of Ashville's communism. They get very testy

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Speaker 2: about that over there. I'm just telling you, but I

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Speaker 2: wanted to play because I teased this in the last segment.

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Speaker 2: Trump to me is finding a sea legs, and he's

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Speaker 2: starting to do better and better as he now knows

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Speaker 2: who his opponent is and what that battle is going

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Speaker 2: to look like. But yesterday, and I don't know how

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Speaker 2: much attention. This is going to get but in conjunction

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Speaker 2: with RFK Junior potentially endorsing Trump. For the ten percent

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Speaker 2: of you so far or so, my guess in this

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Speaker 2: audience that are still furious about what happened with COVID,

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Speaker 2: maybe higher than that, but I'm talking about that's your

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Speaker 2: primary issue when you think about how you.

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Speaker 1: Want to vote.

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Speaker 2: This was a big moment from Trump. Listen to him

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Speaker 2: say what he will do for military members out there

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Speaker 2: who lost their jobs over the COVID shot.

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Speaker 1: We didn't want a mandate. The mandate. You can't.

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Speaker 5: You just can't do that.

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Speaker 2: I will rehire every patriot who was fired from the

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Speaker 2: military with an apology and with back pay.

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Speaker 1: They will get their back pay and an apology from

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Speaker 1: our governor.

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Speaker 2: We have a debt of honor to those service members,

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Speaker 2: and I think Trump can fulfill it. I couldn't agree

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Speaker 2: with it more. I wish this had actually been a

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Speaker 2: little bit louder on the campaign trail, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. I wish that this had been talked about more.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that he's, of course on the right side

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Speaker 2: of it, and he's talking about it as he is,

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Speaker 2: But to me, This reminds everybody also of just how

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Speaker 2: divisive and awful the Harris or the Biden Harris administration was.

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Speaker 1: What they did was monstrous.

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Speaker 2: They fired service members because they wouldn't get a shot.

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Speaker 1: Think about this.

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Speaker 2: They were firing people from the military, Clay who had

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Speaker 2: already had COVID, so they have they actually have natural immunity.

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Speaker 2: They don't want the shot. The shot doesn't spread that,

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Speaker 2: it can't stop the spread anyway, and if you're healthy,

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Speaker 2: it's completely useless.

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Speaker 1: They fired people.

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Speaker 2: From the military for this. I don't know how. This

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Speaker 2: is where I start to go off through. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how anybody has forgiven or forgotten this at all.

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Speaker 1: I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you and I again, I think it's

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Speaker 2: about ten percent of the electorate. Part of me is

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Speaker 2: in that camp. I understand we're a minority. A lot

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Speaker 2: of people want to only look forward.

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Speaker 1: To me.

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Speaker 2: You can't look forward until you solve the problems of

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Speaker 2: the past. We didn't with what happened with COVID. But

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Speaker 2: this statement yesterday from Trump and Ashboro, North Carolina, I

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Speaker 2: think was very significant. I think it's a winning message

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Speaker 2: with that ten percent plus. RFK Junior we'll talk about that.

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Speaker 2: What do we expect from Kamala tonight a little bit