Speaker 1: The wickedly talented Adela Zeem. It's one more thing.
Speaker 2: I'm one more thing.
Speaker 1: Or whatever it was that John Travolta family see said
Speaker 1: at the award show.
Speaker 2: And I think he was Adell does Eem and he was.
Speaker 1: Talking about Iggy Azalea. Wasn't he No, No, he wasn't no.
Speaker 2: Uh a, Dina Manzelle.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, it doesn't make a difference to my premise here.
Speaker 1: This is just another hard to pronounce name that I
Speaker 1: don't know. Iggy Azalea is the number one Only Fans
Speaker 1: model currently is a musician of some sort. I don't
Speaker 1: know what she does on Only Fans. She makes nine
Speaker 1: point two million dollars a month.
Speaker 2: A month.
Speaker 1: The age we're living in is like the gold Rush
Speaker 1: and someone. I mean, it just it seems like the
Speaker 1: the the supply and demand can't continue it the way
Speaker 1: it is. It's just it's so new. Things haven't shaken out,
Speaker 1: because at some point, I think things got to shake out,
Speaker 1: don't they. There's no reason one young hot chick makes
Speaker 1: nine point two million dollars a month when there are
Speaker 1: unlimited young hot chicks. I mean, at some point I
Speaker 1: would think that that's not really what I was My
Speaker 1: main focus was going to be I was going to
Speaker 1: talk about this person here.
Speaker 2: I just to answer that. I think it would have
Speaker 2: happened already. There are undeniably few women. It reminds me
Speaker 2: in a weird way of like the world of podcasting.
Speaker 1: Which always got to teak about here in a second.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, interesting if similar dynamics. You've gotta be good
Speaker 2: at it or like sexually attractive or whatever. You've got
Speaker 2: to be willing to put the time and effort into it,
Speaker 2: such as it is laying around in your underwear or
Speaker 2: committing various acts or whatever. And then you've got to
Speaker 2: be known. And that's why you know, like they're Joe Rogan,
Speaker 2: who's got you know, a very good podcast. Well it's
Speaker 2: very popular, so self evidently it's it's good to a
Speaker 2: lot of people. Well, he was also the host of
Speaker 2: Fear Factor and a big mma guy. He had a
Speaker 2: built in magnet, he had a built in name and everything.
Speaker 2: And so it is in the hottie industry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so here's one of your hotties. She doesn't do
Speaker 1: anything other than like wear tight clothing and occasionally bikinis.
Speaker 1: She's a virgin and a devout Christian who goes to
Speaker 1: mass regularly. But for whatever reason, she caught on. Her
Speaker 1: name is Sophie Rain and she last year or this
Speaker 1: is how much money she has made so far. This
Speaker 1: is her total net worth at this point. She's twenty
Speaker 1: years old. Started this when she was eighteen. She has
Speaker 1: a net worth of just over eighty million dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I remember when she first came.
Speaker 1: And she doesn't radar screen and she's attractive, but she
Speaker 1: is not I'll see five more attractive women today today,
Speaker 1: just going to the mall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you got the wrong picture. Well I'm looking
Speaker 2: at it, built like a brick out house.
Speaker 1: You gotta go to the mall more often. So are
Speaker 1: lots of people, that's my point. Yeah, so are lots
Speaker 1: of people. I just don't understand them all. I just
Speaker 1: don't know one catches on over another. I really really
Speaker 1: don't get it. But clearly they do. Eighty million dollars.
Speaker 1: She's twenty years old. She doesn't even do anything.
Speaker 2: Really, no, she just well she sells the vision of
Speaker 2: the version the Virgin Horror. That's like timeless. I am
Speaker 2: pure and innocent. I am not a tran pep will
Speaker 2: not get a disease from me, but I will do
Speaker 2: anything with you anything. It's like the greatest male fantasy
Speaker 2: in the history of the world. I guess.
Speaker 1: I mean that's true. How that translates to this, I
Speaker 1: don't quite get. But including one guy who gave her
Speaker 1: four million dollars last year, one rich guy, for doing
Speaker 1: nothing really other than wearing the color bikini he wants
Speaker 1: her to wear.
Speaker 2: I guess now that I really don't.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to a beach, sir, so just
Speaker 1: the Oh yeah, there's an example. I was just in
Speaker 1: Miami South Beach. There's lots of girls that look like her,
Speaker 1: They're all over the place. But she's got a brand,
Speaker 1: built brand. How you become the name that somebody would
Speaker 1: search he on, that's its own magic. I guess, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I suppose lots of show businesses is that way.
Speaker 1: There's lots of bands that sound the same white as
Speaker 1: one pop up and the other one doesn't. Is always
Speaker 1: been a bit of a mystery. But I was going
Speaker 1: to get to this article that was in the New
Speaker 1: York Times yesterday about how pop podcasting has gone video
Speaker 1: to such a certain extent and all my favorite podcasts,
Speaker 1: including ours soon have now put cameras in there so
Speaker 1: you can watch also, And there's just so much demand
Speaker 1: for watching the podcast that you had been listening to.
Speaker 1: Lex Friedman does it now, Joe Rogan's been doing it forever.
Speaker 1: Commentary Magazine. I listened their podcast. They got cameras now
Speaker 1: and you can watch them on YouTube. I never have
Speaker 1: I have no need to see them saying the things
Speaker 1: they're saying while I listened to them to talk, but
Speaker 1: a lot of you do apparently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised by this, I've gotta admit, because just
Speaker 2: the way I take in audio entertainment, it wouldn't make
Speaker 2: any sense to be watching it because I'm walking or
Speaker 2: driving or doing housework or whatever.
Speaker 1: I used to think that. But the first radio show
Speaker 1: that was regularly on television that I was aware of
Speaker 1: was Imus way back in the day, and he was
Speaker 1: on MSNBC in the morning. Famously got fired. They hired
Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough is a fill in, and the rest is
Speaker 1: but uh Imus was on in the morning, and like
Speaker 1: sometimes they'd say something and I would come out of
Speaker 1: my I'm listening to it. I'd come out of the
Speaker 1: bathroom and walk down the Hall and like zap back
Speaker 1: to watch them say it for some reason. I'm not
Speaker 1: exactly even sure why myself, but videos of podcasters and
Speaker 1: so we're testing our cameras today or tomorrow to get
Speaker 1: that going too. I'm not excited about it, but if
Speaker 1: we get some more listeners slash viewers, it's obviously a
Speaker 1: good idea.
Speaker 2: Hanson said, I have to be shirtless. Well, that's how
Speaker 2: we're tying into the whole only fans thing, Michael. We're
Speaker 2: trying to harness both of those dynamics at once.
Speaker 1: It's out of the box one thing that COVID did,
Speaker 1: and maybe just the ubiquity of video casts, there doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to be much of a demand for lighting being
Speaker 1: fantastic or you're wearing certain clothes or having makeup. Because
Speaker 1: there's Joe Rogan doesn't obviously doesn't care at all how
Speaker 1: he looks. The lighting is terrible. He's sitting there in
Speaker 1: a sweatshirt. He looks like he hasn't watched his I mean,
Speaker 1: he didn't care, and he's a he makes it whatever.
Speaker 1: He made three hundred million dollars on his deal. Well,
Speaker 1: and you've commented that his news breaks.
Speaker 2: Halpern will hold these rodeos where various thinkers commentators will
Speaker 2: get together and comment in real time, which is really cool.
Speaker 2: But a lot of the times they're sitting there on
Speaker 2: the same T shirt they worked out in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with headphones on and bad lighting. So Ryan caring
Speaker 1: about that has gone out the window.
Speaker 2: Well, normally you'd be trucked down to Manhattan, I mean
Speaker 2: back in the day. Oh yeah, Literally you had to
Speaker 2: be there in the studio wearing a suit with makeup
Speaker 2: on your face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would fly you in if they're going to
Speaker 1: have you on the show. And then it became popular
Speaker 1: for a while to have these mobile studios that would
Speaker 1: come around. It was just a van with a tiny
Speaker 1: little set in it, and they could come to your
Speaker 1: place of work or your home. You'd go out and
Speaker 1: sit in the van with the proper lighting, in the
Speaker 1: proper set and the makeup person. But that's just nobody
Speaker 1: needs that anymore, so that was all unnecessary, apparently, Jack
Speaker 1: was it? Is this the slopifying of a America? Or
Speaker 1: is it just that the ideas are what counts? I mean,
Speaker 1: like that, I came across I shared a couple of
Speaker 1: things on the show today.
Speaker 2: I thought we're very smart, persuasive ideas, And if the
Speaker 2: guy expressing that was on like it was wearing like
Speaker 2: an ill fitting golf shirt, I wouldn't diminish the idea
Speaker 2: in the least to me.
Speaker 1: No, well, or nor the reverse. Somebody who's got nothing
Speaker 1: to say. Being good looking with perfect makeup and perfect
Speaker 1: air does nothing for me.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's the falling away of that sort of pretense,
Speaker 2: which would be great.
Speaker 1: That's got to be a good thing, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: I don't have a big problem with it. No, no,
Speaker 2: because I think a lot of that pretense and you
Speaker 2: see it in politics still. I mean, why do they
Speaker 2: all wear the damn blue suit and the red tie
Speaker 2: and the flag pin and the all got the same
Speaker 2: damn haircut, A lot of them doing the rest of it.
Speaker 2: It's all pretense. Yeah, you know, I think being average
Speaker 2: looking makes you more relatable.
Speaker 1: Well, then I should be damned relatable.
Speaker 2: I should be favorable guys on her, the every man. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got to be bad use for eventually, for
Speaker 1: hot young chicks wanting to get into TV. If it
Speaker 1: just doesn't matter, maybe that will be the last boice matter.
Speaker 2: Back to our previous discussion.
Speaker 1: Ah, there you go. That'll be the last holdout having
Speaker 1: a young hotty do your weather for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: You know, that's I shouldn't admit this. It's a point
Speaker 2: of personal cowardice. No, it's probably not cowardice. But you
Speaker 2: remember back in the day when there were a handful
Speaker 2: of lawsuits female newscasters sued because they were fired in
Speaker 2: favor of younger hotties. Yeah, and we were on the
Speaker 2: side of Look, it's show business. I mean, if they
Speaker 2: think somebody else is going to get more clicks, more views, whatever,
Speaker 2: you're in show business. You're not the you know, the
Speaker 2: production manager at GM or something, fired in favor of
Speaker 2: a hotter girl with the bigger boobs or something. You're
Speaker 2: in the Look how attractive. I am business. And I
Speaker 2: know a gal. She's a friend, the wife of a
Speaker 2: friend who was involved in some of that stuff. By
Speaker 2: the way, brilliant woman, like, intimidatingly smart, great reporter, I
Speaker 2: mean researcher again, intimidatingly smart and tough. And I haven't
Speaker 2: had that conversation with her.
Speaker 1: Do you think she's on the other side.
Speaker 2: Of the argument.
Speaker 1: Oh she was, No, she sued, Oh she's smart. Of
Speaker 1: those lawsuits, that's nuts. There's no justifying that. I don't
Speaker 1: care how damn smart you are. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's like saying, sorry, Nirvana, you can't be a band.
Speaker 1: Synthesizers are a thing and we can't change.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I didn't know. That's a poor metaphor. And
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. She sees her job as being
Speaker 2: a reporter and anchor. The network is like, yeah, that
Speaker 2: we need you to do that. But you're a pretty
Speaker 2: thing for people to look at. Well, that's part of
Speaker 2: your job.
Speaker 1: Did she win or lose?
Speaker 2: I don't remember how it ended, honestly. I remember Christine Kraft.
Speaker 2: She was the first to sue in California.
Speaker 1: Right, how maybe maybe I alter my metaphor slightly. You're
Speaker 1: a band that was very, very popular, but now you've
Speaker 1: gotten a little older and people aren't as interested in
Speaker 1: you anymore.
Speaker 2: All right, So is it is it show business or
Speaker 2: is it a production job? That's the that's the problem
Speaker 2: that what happened. That's like the conundrum.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be easy to get around by saying I
Speaker 1: hired you in the first place because you were so hot.
Speaker 1: There was a number of people that could do the
Speaker 1: reporting you do. I hired you because you're the hottest one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the government has never come to terms with that.
Speaker 2: Where does show business turn into journalism? How would you
Speaker 2: fire a newspaper columnist in favor of a younger hot
Speaker 2: of course, not right.
Speaker 1: Unless they're going on MSNBC or going on the cable
Speaker 1: news channels and getting lots of attention for my my newspaper.
Speaker 2: Which I'm not trying to be obtuse here. I'm just
Speaker 2: saying it's difficult to draw the line where that becomes
Speaker 2: age discrimination.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one place you can draw the line easily.
Speaker 2: Weather.
Speaker 1: Anybody could do the freaking weather. They're just reading it
Speaker 1: from a computer, so that's got no talent whatsoever. They're
Speaker 1: always going to go with the younger otter one that.
Speaker 2: Goes to the Supreme Court. Nine oh, Catanji Brown Jackson
Speaker 2: high five and Scalia these types meant, not scal high
Speaker 2: five and the Gorsic Yeah nine O ruling. Well, I
Speaker 2: guess that's it.