Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with
Speaker 1: Me your Girl Daniel Moody recording from the Home Bunker, Folks.
Speaker 1: On today's show, I get into conversation with our friend
Speaker 1: Sky Perryman, this CEO of Democracy Forward, and Sky and
Speaker 1: I recorded this interview when the decision came down from
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. It is a dark conversation, but Sky
Speaker 1: offers some light way forward and what I'm going to say,
Speaker 1: as it is evident now where this country is headed.
Speaker 1: This week's episodes, I'm sorry to say, have been utterly
Speaker 1: and completely depressing and really hard to do, frankly, because
Speaker 1: I don't understand how we are still in a place
Speaker 1: of indecision, or still in a place of people saying
Speaker 1: stupid fucking things like they're not going to vote or
Speaker 1: there's no difference between these two parties. I don't know
Speaker 1: what else I can possibly do and offer, but I
Speaker 1: know that for as long as I have WOKF, I
Speaker 1: am going to tell the truth until the truth becomes illegal.
Speaker 1: And those are the things that I have been thinking about.
Speaker 1: I have been thinking about what must it have been
Speaker 1: like to live inside of Germany and Austria, as Hitler
Speaker 1: was making his way across Europe. What must it have
Speaker 1: been like to live inside of South Africa during apartheid?
Speaker 1: What must it be like to be in Gaza, to
Speaker 1: be occupied the way that the Palestinians are in Israel?
Speaker 1: What must it be like to live inside of Iran
Speaker 1: and Turkey and Hungary. So many places around the world
Speaker 1: have dealt with or are dealing with authoritarianism and dictatorships.
Speaker 1: It never occurred to me in my entire life, in
Speaker 1: my entire life, that America could be one of them.
Speaker 1: I have always believed in the possibility of this country.
Speaker 1: I've always believed in its creed, even if it has
Speaker 1: never lived up to it entirely. I've always believed what
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton once said, that there is nothing that is
Speaker 1: wrong with America that can't be fixed with what is
Speaker 1: right by America. But we are in danger. The forces
Speaker 1: of evil have conspired to drag this country back into
Speaker 1: the darkest, darkest depths of itself, to a time when
Speaker 1: white supremacy was the law of the land, where patriarchy
Speaker 1: was the law of the land, where black people had
Speaker 1: no rights, women had no voice and no protection, where
Speaker 1: people who were queer had no safe space except in
Speaker 1: dark basements and dark bars where workers had no protections
Speaker 1: and no rights and were subjected to the will of
Speaker 1: their employers, which were pretty much like they're enslavers. That
Speaker 1: is the future, that is Project twenty twenty five. There
Speaker 1: are many people who are still alive because Jim Crow
Speaker 1: was not that long ago. That remember that time in America.
Speaker 1: It is why black people have been and black women
Speaker 1: in particular have been the foundation of the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: because so many remember Ruby Bridges is only sixty five
Speaker 1: years old, the first young black girl to integrate schools
Speaker 1: following Brown versus the Board of Education. Folks, that wasn't
Speaker 1: so long ago. And these white supremacist bastards have had
Speaker 1: the desire to bring us back. And like you know
Speaker 1: what has been said by Kevin Roberts, by Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: by so many Republicans, they got more guns on their side.
Speaker 1: Oh it'll remain bloodless so long as we are complicit
Speaker 1: in our own subjugation. They are ready to rock, folks,
Speaker 1: They are ready to turn this country into a nightmare.
Speaker 1: They get off on fear and terror. So you want
Speaker 1: to spend time fighting for your life after or fighting
Speaker 1: for yourself right now with your vote those are the
Speaker 1: decisions that we have in front of us, and coming
Speaker 1: up next, Sky Perryman and I will get into deeper
Speaker 1: conversation about what is at stake, folks. I am so
Speaker 1: happy to welcome back to wok F Daily Sky Perryman,
Speaker 1: who is the President and CEO of Democracy Forward, a
Speaker 1: non partisan national legal organization that promotes democracy and process
Speaker 1: through litigation, regulatory engagement, policy, education and research, and has
Speaker 1: made many appearances on Sky. Today, we are recording at
Speaker 1: a time when the Supreme Court gave what I am
Speaker 1: effectively as many people are calling, one of the last
Speaker 1: major blows to our democracy by granting a president absolute
Speaker 1: immunity so long as they can prove that whatever acts
Speaker 1: they were committing were done so officially. In the descent
Speaker 1: to that decision, Sonya, so to Mayor Justice KBJ. Kagan,
Speaker 1: they all basically said, in fear of our democracy, we dissent.
Speaker 1: Give us your thoughts and reactions to this egregious move
Speaker 1: by the Supreme Court to effectively give a president the
Speaker 1: same rights and privileges as a king.
Speaker 2: Well, it is egregious, and it's especially a twist of
Speaker 2: harmful irony. Of course, that this is happening just a
Speaker 2: few days before July fourth. But you know, in the
Speaker 2: United States, we don't have kings and or queens, and
Speaker 2: yet the Supreme Court is seeking to act that way
Speaker 2: as itself, and this is a very harmful decision. It
Speaker 2: was also harmful that the court delayed the decision for
Speaker 2: so many months, essentially ensuring and delaying accountability in the
Speaker 2: criminal trial. We are urging, of course, the trial court
Speaker 2: to act swiftly and to move towards that trial. No
Speaker 2: one is above the law. But this is a very
Speaker 2: devastating day for our democracy. This occurs against the backdrop,
Speaker 2: as you know, we've talked about it before on your show,
Speaker 2: but in twenty twenty one, the United States was added
Speaker 2: to the list of backsliding democracies after the rampant election
Speaker 2: denialism and the attempted insurrection at the Capitol. And so
Speaker 2: this is really a very unfortunate and harmful and very
Speaker 2: highly concerning, dangerous step that could accelerate that backsliding. Further said,
Speaker 2: we know that people in this country do have a voice,
Speaker 2: and it's going to be very important, as we always
Speaker 2: emphasize when we talk together, Danielle, that people and communities
Speaker 2: understand what's going on, be vigilant and demand better from
Speaker 2: their elected leaders and also from the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: You know, your organization its mission is to uphold democracy,
Speaker 1: to push for policy that is about all of us
Speaker 1: and that some of us. Where are you all in
Speaker 1: your thinking about next steps? I mean, I like, I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of organizations are disaster planning in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Right what are we going to
Speaker 1: look like in twenty twenty five? What are we going
Speaker 1: to look like five months from now? So what does
Speaker 1: it look like to have this decision come forward and
Speaker 1: then be thinking about where we go from here in
Speaker 1: terms of your own organization and then as a society.
Speaker 2: Well, let me say the first thing, and we say
Speaker 2: this all the time, but we cannot give into cynicism.
Speaker 2: And there is a lot of cynicism right now, and
Speaker 2: including cynicism frankly from the Supreme Court term and we'll
Speaker 2: talk about some other decisions that are also quite cinample
Speaker 2: that are part of this far right effort to undermine
Speaker 2: a functioning society, to undermine a democracy that works for
Speaker 2: all of us. But we are not going to give
Speaker 2: into cynicism. And so what that looks like is first
Speaker 2: of all, understanding what's going on and demanding more. It
Speaker 2: turns out that while our Constitution wasn't perfect and didn't
Speaker 2: include everybody when it was drafted, there are tools in
Speaker 2: that constitution that can in fact bring about a better society.
Speaker 2: Our Congress, our elected branch of government, has a role
Speaker 2: to play with respect to courts, when justices are acting
Speaker 2: out ethically, when justices have conflicts of interest, and when
Speaker 2: the courts are not functioning in the way they should
Speaker 2: function in a democracy. Our Congress has power there or
Speaker 2: state legislation at the state level, and elected representatives at
Speaker 2: the state level have state based power and state based
Speaker 2: disputes and vites, And so I think it's really important
Speaker 2: that we look at all of the avenues and use
Speaker 2: all the tools that our democracy can provide. It is
Speaker 2: pastime for Congress and for the American people to hold
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court accountable and to hold federal judges accountable
Speaker 2: if they are not going to defend democracy and fully
Speaker 2: execute their obligations under the Constitution. But also we can
Speaker 2: be prepared, and we can be prepared in courts across
Speaker 2: the country. So maybe we'll talk a little bit about
Speaker 2: what else we saw the suppose sure, and how we
Speaker 2: have been anticipating this and have tools for communities to
Speaker 2: be able to use their voices at this time to
Speaker 2: build for the democracy that we all know the American
Speaker 2: people want, believe in and deserve.
Speaker 1: So let's go over go you know for us where
Speaker 1: where we are.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, at the same time that the Court and
Speaker 2: like headline breaking news, was providing the president more power
Speaker 2: than even our founders contemplated, right making the President of
Speaker 2: King It's Justice Sodomyora and others so verbalize in their descent,
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court was also hypocritically taking powers away from
Speaker 2: federal agencies, which are part of the executive branch that
Speaker 2: do the work of the American people. When Congress passes laws.
Speaker 2: Congress passes broad laws to help solve problems for folks
Speaker 2: in the country, but it's really the executive branch, that
Speaker 2: presidential branch and all the federal agencies that have to
Speaker 2: execute the laws. But this term the Supreme Court dealt
Speaker 2: a devastating blow, including today, by the way, and the
Speaker 2: other decision it issued in Corner Posts versus Federal Reserve,
Speaker 2: but then also in two other cases known as Low
Speaker 2: or Bright and relentless, delta devastating blow to that system
Speaker 2: of government, essentially consolidating power in itself. The Court as
Speaker 2: opposed to the way for more than forty years, and
Speaker 2: you can even go back for decades before that government
Speaker 2: has functioned, where when Congress passes the law that protects people,
Speaker 2: it's our federal agencies that interpret and implement that law
Speaker 2: in accordance with their expertise setting policy and regulation. The
Speaker 2: Court really delta devastating below to that system by overturning
Speaker 2: something known as Chevron defference, which of course I think
Speaker 2: your viewers are probably our listeners are probably hearing about.
Speaker 2: And so this is a really hypocritical moment, right because
Speaker 2: you have the Supreme Court deciding against the federal executive
Speaker 2: with respect to routine policy making that it has been
Speaker 2: doing for decades, but then consolidating just really unprecedented amounts
Speaker 2: of almost keen like power with respect to this immunity decision,
Speaker 2: which is incredibly unfortunate. So a democracy forward, we understood
Speaker 2: that these cases were going to be coming down, and
Speaker 2: so we've been really building a lot of resources where
Speaker 2: we can track what far right organizations that others might
Speaker 2: seek to do with these new developments in the law,
Speaker 2: to enable people and communities to go into the courts
Speaker 2: early on and to be able to explain why these
Speaker 2: are horriful decisions that should not be expanded further, and
Speaker 2: to be able to really push back.
Speaker 1: So what does it look like to push back? Because
Speaker 1: I have to tell you that today is one I
Speaker 1: know that you said we don't have time for cynicism,
Speaker 1: and you know, and in some ways I absolutely agree
Speaker 1: with you, But that is in a lot of ways
Speaker 1: where people are they are you know, for some have
Speaker 1: been tracking this news and have been following the decisions
Speaker 1: coming down from the Supreme Court. For others, you know,
Speaker 1: I just alerted my own family to the decisions that
Speaker 1: have been coming down, and they are beside themselves and
Speaker 1: they're just like, what was like, what was the point
Speaker 1: of us voting for Biden? What was the point of
Speaker 1: us being told that we were going to hang on
Speaker 1: to democracy in this next election when four years later,
Speaker 1: this is where we are, We're worse off than we
Speaker 1: were in twenty twenty. So what does democracy moving forward
Speaker 1: actually look like?
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, we're not going to let extremists
Speaker 2: have the last word, and so what that pushback looks
Speaker 2: like is it first of all, looks like doing exactly
Speaker 2: what you did, calling your friends and family and talking
Speaker 2: about what's going on, and making sure people are getting
Speaker 2: educated and are able to use their voices in the
Speaker 2: way they can. That is through voting, but it is
Speaker 2: also through being members of communities, talking and speaking out.
Speaker 2: We know that people really have a voice in this moment.
Speaker 2: I will also say that our elected representatives have work
Speaker 2: to do. Congress has power to fix the court to
Speaker 2: ensure that justices are operating ethically. It is absolutely absurd
Speaker 2: that we have, years after we are dealing with rampant
Speaker 2: election denialism denihalism, by the way, that started in twenty
Speaker 2: sixteen when former President Trump did not win the popular
Speaker 2: vote and sought to dispute facts and evidence. But we
Speaker 2: still see this movement now throughout the country, not associated
Speaker 2: with any particular candidate, and we see this movement throughout
Speaker 2: the country. It's really important we have Supreme Court justices
Speaker 2: that have been seen with insurrection as symbols flying outside
Speaker 2: of our homes and so here are you know, our
Speaker 2: constitution provides the tools. It is time for Congress to
Speaker 2: take a much closer look than it has been taking
Speaker 2: at the Court, and to use its power to demand
Speaker 2: that the Court be subject to binding ethical codes, to
Speaker 2: think about court reforms that are a number of them
Speaker 2: that have been proposed by people like Jamie Raskin, by
Speaker 2: others in the Senate as well, and the House, the
Speaker 2: Incenate as well, And so I think that there are
Speaker 2: these tools. The other thing I would say is that
Speaker 2: there has been a lot of progress made in the
Speaker 2: past few years. We have seen the economy start doing better.
Speaker 2: We've seen people and communities be able to thrive in
Speaker 2: certain ways. But we have also seen, as a result
Speaker 2: of I think the rising tide of a more inclusive,
Speaker 2: more vibrant of allocracy for all people, this extreme pushback
Speaker 2: which you see with things like Dobbs and the overturning
Speaker 2: of Rogie Wade. And we'll get to the Court's abortions
Speaker 2: decisions this time and other things. And so it's important
Speaker 2: to know who's behind these This is not a majority
Speaker 2: of Americans. This is a well funded, highly coordinated extremist
Speaker 2: movement that is seeking to be louder and will power
Speaker 2: over everyone. And part of it is making up our
Speaker 2: minds that we're not going to let them have the
Speaker 2: last word. We're going to do the work. We're going
Speaker 2: to be able to look this destruction in the eye
Speaker 2: and not blink and speak out. And I know that
Speaker 2: people are very tired in this moment, but think about
Speaker 2: what people that came before us did in times of
Speaker 2: pail and we would not be where we are today
Speaker 2: without the persistence in the fight for a true democracy.
Speaker 2: And so that's what we're really trying to focus our
Speaker 2: work on and using the tools under these new legal
Speaker 2: frameworks in order to push back.
Speaker 1: I want to read on this post by Alexandria Cassier
Speaker 1: Quortez with regard to Congress's role, as you're saying, yes,
Speaker 1: she tweeted this, the Supreme Court has become consumed by
Speaker 1: a corruption crisis beyond its control. Today's ruling represents an
Speaker 1: assault on American democracy. It is up to Congress to
Speaker 1: defend our nation from this authoritarian capture. I intend on
Speaker 1: filing articles of impeachment upon our return. What is your
Speaker 1: response to that?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it is important that members of Congress,
Speaker 2: and we've seen her, we've seen Jamie Raskin, we've seen
Speaker 2: senators as well, really start reminding the American people of
Speaker 2: the power and the obligation that Congress has with respect
Speaker 2: to court reforms, with respect to transparency, with respect to
Speaker 2: ethics reform, and a variety of other reform measures that
Speaker 2: are out there. Several years ago when the far right
Speaker 2: really started, it didn't start, but really several years ago
Speaker 2: when we started seeing the first evidence of really how
Speaker 2: far the spar right capture had gone with respect to
Speaker 2: some of our courts. I think the American people didn't
Speaker 2: really know how serious it was, or it was hard
Speaker 2: to understand it. We have now seen YEP with dog
Speaker 2: YEP with decisions last summer, with decisions that are undermining
Speaker 2: the environment. This term, we're having a decision that's going
Speaker 2: to make it easier for people to obtain automatic weapons.
Speaker 2: I mean, these are distructive decisions for our people and communities.
Speaker 2: And so I think the American public is there. If
Speaker 2: you look at the pulling people in our country right
Speaker 2: now are very dissatisfied with the extremism of the US
Speaker 2: Supreme Court and of the movements behind it, and so
Speaker 2: it is important that everyone do, including Congress, the part
Speaker 2: of this time.
Speaker 1: I want to switch gears for a moment to the
Speaker 1: abortion decisions that we just had as well. But the
Speaker 1: thing that I just thought of when you reminded us
Speaker 1: of the easier to obtain automatic weapons and the ability
Speaker 1: to use magazines. I just can't help but think of
Speaker 1: the fact that this Supreme Court has really set up
Speaker 1: the ability for milicious like to embolden militias, for Donald
Speaker 1: Trump to tell folks to stand back and stand by
Speaker 1: and to be immune from anything that they do. And
Speaker 1: that is just like again, the seriousness and the connecting
Speaker 1: of the dots of where we are and what was
Speaker 1: just decided mif of pristone and Mtala, two major decisions
Speaker 1: that came down. Talk to us about where we are
Speaker 1: on that, because the Atala decision in a lot of
Speaker 1: ways was still, according to Justice Katanji Brown Jackson, a
Speaker 1: dawdling continuing dawdling of the Supreme Court in the permission
Speaker 1: structure that is necessary to save people's lives in Idaho.
Speaker 1: So tell us about where we are there.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, we're heavily involved in both of those cases.
Speaker 2: In the Intala case, which for your listeners, that's the
Speaker 2: emergency abortion case where there are people that are experiencing
Speaker 2: dire complications in pregnancy where the medical care that is
Speaker 2: required is a pregnancy termination or an abortion. Under our
Speaker 2: federal law, when you present to an emergency room in
Speaker 2: this country, you can't be turned away if you're in
Speaker 2: that dire condition. The emergency rooms that take federal funds,
Speaker 2: which is the vast majority of them, have to provide
Speaker 2: emergency care. Unfortunately, after Dobbs, far right attorney generals working
Speaker 2: with these far right organizations that are responsible in many
Speaker 2: ways their funding structures, are responsible for the courts that
Speaker 2: we have today. They are opposing basic federal law and
Speaker 2: saying that state abortion bands can override federal emergency room protections,
Speaker 2: which is not what our constitution says. Again, our Constitution
Speaker 2: does have some tools there, and it's very clear in
Speaker 2: the Constitution that federal law takes precedence over state law
Speaker 2: on the two conflict. This got up to the Supreme Court,
Speaker 2: and the Supreme Court essentially has delayed its substantive decision
Speaker 2: in the matter. It did issue a ruling that will
Speaker 2: enable women in Idaho who have been deprived of emergency
Speaker 2: care for months of emergency here because the Supreme Court
Speaker 2: itself stayed a district court order that was seeking to
Speaker 2: protect these women. So again this is a problem of
Speaker 2: the Court's own making. The Court is returning this issue
Speaker 2: down to the lower courts, and as a result, in Idaho,
Speaker 2: women right now will be able to get some of
Speaker 2: that emergency care. But the Court declined to rule definitively
Speaker 2: as it should have and as our constitution requires. The
Speaker 2: Idaho abortion band conflicted with this federal protection. What that
Speaker 2: means is for women in Texas, for women in Florida,
Speaker 2: for women across the country in these states that a
Speaker 2: band abortion where far right attorney's generals and special interest
Speaker 2: organizations are seeking to deprive people of an emergency medical care,
Speaker 2: They're still going to be deprived of that care apbsent
Speaker 2: additional intervention. The cynical part, because we started talking about Seneca,
Speaker 2: We're not going to give rise to it. But I
Speaker 2: am going to point this out. The cynical part of
Speaker 2: this is that you know, we do know this is
Speaker 2: an important year in many ways, and we know how
Speaker 2: voters are respond to these attacks on our freedoms and
Speaker 2: particularly reproductive freedom, and particularly in these situations where these
Speaker 2: are moms and women who this is really die or
Speaker 2: for their health. And so the cynical part of this
Speaker 2: is that the Court, of course has sort of avoided
Speaker 2: this issue while all eyes are on it in this gear.
Speaker 2: And we already know that there are cases tied up,
Speaker 2: for instance, out of Texas and out of the Fifth
Speaker 2: Circuit where this could come back up to the Court,
Speaker 2: maybe in a quieter year, one where there's not a
Speaker 2: major national election, and the Court could could be poised
Speaker 2: to deprive people to go further than Daubs, even further
Speaker 2: than our constitution permits, and to deprive people of this care.
Speaker 2: So this is why I say it's really important that
Speaker 2: we all be following this or am I going to
Speaker 2: give into the cynicism. We know that we're the majority.
Speaker 2: We know the vast majority of people in this country
Speaker 2: believe in the promise and potential of democracy, and it
Speaker 2: is time to start demanding that of everybody, whether they're
Speaker 2: in the judiciary, whether they're elected officials, you know, whoever
Speaker 2: they are. But at the same time, we need to
Speaker 2: be wise to what's happening here and if a pristone
Speaker 2: case where we're really where we have been, you know,
Speaker 2: involved there, the Court rejected said that the case ever
Speaker 2: belonged in the court, that the special interest organization that
Speaker 2: brought the case was not harmed, did not have standing.
Speaker 2: But as you see, the chaos is the point of
Speaker 2: this because it's been almost you know, it's been over
Speaker 2: year that there have been you know, emergency had you know,
Speaker 2: emergency every day where people are thinking they're going to
Speaker 2: be deprived of or that if a pristone is going
Speaker 2: to be restricted. And in that case also we have
Speaker 2: far right state attorneys general who have sought to intervene
Speaker 2: in the case in a lower course. We don't believe
Speaker 2: they should be able to. But again that's another case
Speaker 2: that could come back up maybe when the court thinks
Speaker 2: that folks aren't paying as close as attention. So so
Speaker 2: I think these are really areas to watch. They are
Speaker 2: areas where with all of these cases, including the immunity case.
Speaker 2: And I say this often on shows right now, but
Speaker 2: when extremists, you know, tell you what they're going to do,
Speaker 2: it's time to believe them, and it's time to believe
Speaker 2: them and get real serious about what we're going to
Speaker 2: do in this time, to fight for the democracy that
Speaker 2: we know that everyone that the vast majority of people
Speaker 2: in this country want and deserve.
Speaker 1: We will leave it there for today. But I know
Speaker 1: that we will be calling on you again in the
Speaker 1: weeks and months to come, because I feel like Americas
Speaker 1: is reaching its final precipice as it pertains to democracy.
Speaker 2: Well, this is what I'll say, maybe to end on this.
Speaker 2: These are unprecedented of very concerning times, and we're not
Speaker 2: going to make light of that. You and I never
Speaker 2: make light of that. But we know that this country
Speaker 2: has fought dehumanization, extremism, white supremacy, and it has always
Speaker 2: been the people that have ordinary people. You don't have
Speaker 2: to be a lawyer, you don't need to be a politician,
Speaker 2: you don't need to be a radio show host. It
Speaker 2: has been ordinary people in their ordinary lives say that
Speaker 2: we are better than this. The future that we deserve
Speaker 2: is better than this. The present that we live in
Speaker 2: needs to be better than this, and we are better
Speaker 2: than this, and we will do the work of democracy.
Speaker 2: And that has been the thing, not our institutions. It
Speaker 2: has been the people that have been the shining light
Speaker 2: in American society, pushing for the country that we know
Speaker 2: that we can be and what we needed this time.
Speaker 2: And so I'll just lead that with your listeners, because
Speaker 2: I think that you know there isn't an institution that's
Speaker 2: going to swoop in and save us, but that we
Speaker 2: do have, we the people, and I will stand by
Speaker 2: the fact that our constitution, as imperfect as the circumstances were,
Speaker 2: as imperfect as it can be. As Barbara Jordan, late
Speaker 2: Congress from Barbara Jordan used to say, over time, through progress,
Speaker 2: she became included. We became included in we the people.
Speaker 2: And it is up to we the people in this moment.
Speaker 2: So happy to always join you and thinking for what
Speaker 2: you are doing to make sure that people are informed.
Speaker 2: And I do think we cannot give into the cynicism,
Speaker 2: but it is we do. Got to go to work
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of work to do in this
Speaker 2: moment to make sure democracy is not a lofty ideal
Speaker 2: but actually something that can we get to live in
Speaker 2: in this country.
Speaker 1: Amen, Thank you, Sky, appreciate you always making the time
Speaker 1: for woke.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks so much.
Speaker 1: That is it for me today. Hear friends on wokef
Speaker 1: as always power to the people and to all the people. Power,
Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.