1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 2: Now, just bringing up to speed for a moment here 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: on the Trump trial in New York, defense rest, prosecution rest. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: The jury will get a rest, They're going to be able. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 2: To hang out for a little bit here, and in 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: about a week they will start deliberations. I think that's 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: the latest schedule. They will probably have a verdict for us. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: I would assume next week at some point. I don't 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: think it'll go longer than that, although if it is 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: heading toward a hung jury and therefore a mistrial, I 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: think there's a possibility that it goes on a few 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: days more than anticipated. One thing I do know that 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: is possible is people always think there's no way. 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: That that's true. It is true. 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: I've asked friends of mine who are prosecutors and former 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: judges as well. You know, they can set aside a 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: jury verdict. I mean a judge can just say, yeah, 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to set aside. A judge can just say 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: I'm setting aside the jury verdict and do what he 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: or she pleases, essentially, which gives a sense I think 21 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: of how much power a judge actually has now that 22 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: would they would have to do that in very rare circumstances, 23 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: because you wouldn't want to be overturned on that and 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: to be seen to be really abusing your power. But 25 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: it is possible a judge can say, oh, yeah, you 26 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: guys say not guilty. Yeah, no, I say guilty, And 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: here's the sentence that a judge can set aside a 28 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: jury verdict. I don't think that's going to happen, but 29 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: I'm just throwing a buck, and I haven't heard a 30 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 2: lot of people discuss this. The judge can also say 31 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: at the end of all of the case that the 32 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: government has not presented its case, they haven't proven it 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: in any way. No reasonable jury could find a verdict 34 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: of guilty and toss it. I think there's actually a 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: legitimate basis upon which to do that. If we had 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: a non left wing partisan judge and this wasn't Trump, 37 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: and you just tried to look at the facts, I'm 38 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: not sure if you and we haven't been sitting there 39 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 2: every day. So I would love to hear an honest 40 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: judge analyt I'm not sure they've proven the case to 41 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: it all in terms of Trump's criminality. I think Clay, 42 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: if they were bringing this trial, I know Nashville's a 43 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: Democrat majority city and Dallas is I think slightly maybe 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: fifty five percent or something Democrat majority city. But if 45 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: you brought it in a red state, I would be 46 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: sitting here saying that he is going to be found 47 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: not guilty. I agree, because I just think that the 48 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: pressure on that jury, they know, it's far less. There's 49 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: a far greater likelihood you have people that are pro 50 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: Trump who are on the jury than you do in 51 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: New York City. I remember New York City is something 52 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: like eighty five percent for Biden in the last election. 53 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: But we wanted to take a moment to not look 54 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: at the imminent fall of the judicial system and possibly 55 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: the end of the Republic as we know it, just 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: saying and look at something that scares us all and 57 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: freaks us all out, at least I think it freaks 58 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: us all out. And that is turbulence. Now, we've all 59 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: been through it. If you've flown on a plane, you've 60 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: been through it, and you know that there's the turbulence 61 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: that you get and you're like, oh, oh, that was 62 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: a little that was a little something, you know, Oh 63 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: I felt a little little something going on there. And 64 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: then there's a turbulence that goes and goes again and 65 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: you look around and you know, you know what I'm 66 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: talking about, where people start kind of looking around like 67 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: is anyone else freaking out? Because like, this is pretty bad. 68 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: I've been through some pretty run on small planes and 69 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: on military aircraft. I've been through some really intense stuff, 70 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: but I've never on a commercial flight, I think, been 71 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: through anything. Has the oxygen ever dropped? Have you ever 72 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: been on I've never been on an oxygen mask drop situation. No, 73 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: So I've never never seen that, although I think it's 74 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: someone like you know, in a black Hawk, you're just 75 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: gonna crash like there's no oxygen mask to go down. 76 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: But this is a story that is gonna get a 77 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: lot of people thinking it's the main story in the 78 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: New York coast right now. Terrified passengers recall moment of 79 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: dramatic drop on deadly Singapore Airlines flight. The longest two 80 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: hours of my life is the quote. So this was 81 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: a London to Singapore eleven hour flight and clay someone 82 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: died from turbulence. Now I'm gonna say I'm always told 83 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: and as you all know, you know, my my wife's 84 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: dad is a senior airline pilot for one of the 85 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: big commercial airlines, and I always ask him. I'm like, hey, 86 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: is turbulence a prop Like? Can turbulence take a plane 87 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: out of the sky? And the planes they have now 88 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: the answers pretty much know. But it turns out turbulence 89 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: can be bad enough, as we see in this story, 90 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: that you are ejected out of your seat and smash 91 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: into the ceiling of the plane to the point where 92 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: you could be severely injured or even killed. And that 93 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: happened here. So I've always been very anti I'm just 94 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: gonna say it. The flight attendant always has to tell 95 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: me three times the buck on my seat belt, Like 96 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: I'm just like, ah, God, this is so annoying. Why 97 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: I just forget to do it. I might have to 98 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: start buckling up after this. I gotta tell you, this 99 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: is a This is a bit of a cautionary tale. 100 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people clicked as soon as 101 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: they saw this story because when I saw somebody died 102 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: because of turbulence, I couldn't even understand it. And I'm 103 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: like you and that a lot of times, let's say 104 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 2: you get up and go to the bathroom or you know, 105 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: the kids are doing something on the plane and you're 106 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: trying to manage them. There are lots of times when 107 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: I don't have my seat belt on, and I've never 108 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: seen turbulence where anybody would even come off the chair 109 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: at all. But to go skyrocketing into the ceiling of 110 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: an airplane and to break your neck and die. No, No, 111 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: he died by the way. He died of a heart 112 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: attack because he got so scared. This is different. Yeah, 113 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: I thought that where's Ali? Ali told me that he 114 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: flew into the ceiling. Well, no, people did. People did 115 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: hit the ceiling, but they didn't die. The guy who 116 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: died died of a heart attack because the plane plunged 117 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: six thousand feet. All right, now, I'm not sure I'm 118 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: wearing seatbelts snow either. 119 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: I backed him out the seatbelt A was out Ali? 120 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 1: Where is Ali? 121 00:05:58,480 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: No? 122 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: I think I might have fat I'm gonna I'm gonna 123 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: fall my sword here. Yesterday Ali was texting me because 124 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: the last time we were in Milwaukee, if Ali wants 125 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: to pull up her mic Ali, how concerned were you 126 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: that we were gonna die? 127 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: Based on the plane that I had us in. 128 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if she can talk to you right now. No, 129 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: she's not in the studio. She can't talk to you. 130 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: She's out pulling clips to make sure we have the 131 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: latest news and information. 132 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: Clay. 133 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: There were quote huge dents in the overhead bins from 134 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: people flying up and hitting the ceiling, just like I 135 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: would imagine. 136 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: Bouncing into others. Yeah, imagine if you were trying to 137 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: use the bathroom forbid when suddenly you drop six thousand feet. 138 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: I would imagine that's a nasty situation in the bathroom 139 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: as well. But what do you think is what is scarier? 140 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: The engine catches fire or you get thrown into the 141 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: ceiling by turbulence. 142 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: I think the engine catching fire, because at least if 143 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: there's turbulence, you know that something might be okay if 144 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: the I'm telling you when we landed yes late Sunday night, 145 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: and I as we were coming in, the entire runway 146 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: was lined with fire engines, and I knew that they 147 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: had told us if you missed yesterday. They told us, hey, 148 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: your landing gear, the brakes are not working right. We 149 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: need to be going to an airport that has way 150 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: longer of a runway. We landed on the longest runway 151 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: at Baltimore, and we came back within about probably one 152 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: hundred yards of going off the runway because they couldn't 153 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: get everything slowed down. If I looked out the window 154 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: and I saw an engine on fire, I would panic. 155 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: And I tend to have a pretty high risk tolerance 156 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to being on an airplane. I always 157 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: look at the flight attendants, and if the flight attendants 158 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: aren't panicked, then I'm like they know better than anybody. 159 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: They're fly around on these planes all the time. And 160 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: I also think, I don't know if you noticed this, 161 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: it feels to me like a lot of flight attendants 162 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: just want to take a flight off and they'll say, oh, 163 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: we can't come around for the regularly scheduled beverage delivery, 164 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: and they all sit down and get on their phones 165 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: and start hanging out for like a two hour flight. 166 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: Maybe you bounce around a little bit. Feels like they're 167 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: way more cautious about people getting drinks and going around 168 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: with the trays and everything else than they used to be. 169 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: But this brings me to this crazy situation. Did you 170 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: see that they had a Frontier Airlines flight where a 171 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: woman was asked in the exit row if she was 172 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: willing to open the door and aid and assist the passengers, 173 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: and getting off said no, she's only gonna be worried 174 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: about herself. It led to an argument and they ended 175 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: up having to postpone the flight and remove her from 176 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: the flight, which reminds me, first of all, that's crazy, 177 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: the wildest thing I think I've ever seen on an 178 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: airlane flo airline flight. And I tried to ride exit 179 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: row all the time I fly Southwest a lot. Used 180 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: to go all the way out to LA. 181 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: And quickly wait, wait, can I pause you for one 182 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: second because if we skipped over one important detail here, Okay, 183 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: so I don't want to remember what you're about to say. 184 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 2: This is important. I just saw this. The woman who 185 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: wouldn't wouldn't in the exit row, who said she would, 186 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: she said out loud when they said. 187 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: Would you help anybody? 188 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: Quote, Oh no, I'm not going to save anybody if 189 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: something happens. I'm just going to save myself, which is 190 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: just where I call that's what we call too much honesty. 191 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: Right now, Well, if this happened on an exit row 192 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: Southwest Airlines flight to LA, I would always get in 193 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: the exit row because it's basically Southwest Airlines first class, 194 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: you get a little bit more space on a four 195 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: hour cross country flight. To make a difference. Woman was 196 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: sitting next to me. You know, they always say the 197 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: flight attendant says, hey, can you you know, look at me, 198 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: take your headset off. You have to verbally acknowledged that, 199 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: as this woman did not do that, you are understanding 200 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: your responsibilities of being. 201 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: And she actually did the opposite, which she was like, 202 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: I would leave women and children behind and jump off 203 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: this thing solo like she was not helpful. 204 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: Yes, but this woman sitting next to me when they 205 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: got to her, everybody always says, yes, I've been in 206 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: the exit row. 207 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: Because you want that extra need and legroom. Obviously, this 208 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: is like Winston in Ghostbusters. If somebody asks you if 209 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 2: you're a god, you say yes. If somebody asked you 210 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: if you want to be the exit row you're gonna help, 211 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: you say yes. 212 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: The woman next to me said no, that she didn't 213 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: think she could fulfill the exit row requirements. Talk about 214 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: brutal honesty, not like an eighty five year old woman, right, probably, 215 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, forty some odd year old woman. She 216 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: said no. It was like a record scratch moment the 217 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: flight attendant. Later I asked her, she said no one 218 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: had ever said no. Before the flight was full, they 219 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: had to go recruit someone who wanted to be in 220 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: the exit row that could fulfill the requirement to replace 221 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: the lady that said she couldn't do it. I've been 222 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: on airline flights my whole wife. I've never seen someone 223 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: acknowledge that they couldn't handle the responsibility of the exit row. 224 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: So brutal, honest a woman who said here on this 225 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: frontier flight that she wouldn't save anybody else, she would 226 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: just save herself, which again, like it's way more honesty 227 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: than the situation requires. 228 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 2: It's actually pretty amazing. Then she refused to leave when 229 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: they said, okay, well you won't do the service that 230 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: you must do if you're gonna sit here. So they 231 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 2: had to come on the plane and arrest her. Yeah, 232 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: the whole plane had to be deboarded. Could you imagine 233 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: Can you imagine being the person who makes everyone get 234 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: off the plane? You know, one hundred something people get 235 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: off the plane because you say that you're only gonna 236 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: save yourself, screw all these other people. 237 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: If there's a cry, don't that is a crazy situation 238 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: because you are then obligated to give up the seat 239 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: if you're not willing to do the basics on the airplane. 240 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know what. I've been in 241 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: a lot of exit rows. There are a lot of 242 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: times when I've looked and thought there's no way you could. 243 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: Open the exit row. I I in terms of the donors, 244 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: it's pretty heavy. Yeah, child address a lot of people. 245 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 2: Would I mean, first of all, not to be that 246 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: guy if something goes that wrong on a plane. Pulling 247 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: the exit road door is probably the last of the 248 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: problems you're gonna have to deal with because you may 249 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: never get the chance. 250 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: The only way it would work is what happened when 251 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: they brought all the fire engines out after you landed. 252 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: Is if there was a fire on the airline. Oh 253 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: you're on the ground. 254 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: You should have to be able to basically land and 255 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: then it's an emergency evacuation in that right situation, or 256 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: you know, they had to do it when you know, 257 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: Sully landed in the Hudson River, which is still amazing. 258 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: You know, when when you watch that, it's a you know, 259 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: very maybe the greatest pilot accomplishment of the twenty first century. 260 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: In terms of airline, there can't be anything even close, right, Yeah, 261 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: I think I think that's land on the water and 262 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: save everybody's life when the plane is going down. Yeah. 263 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: I mean also, very few people understand that when you 264 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: go through I remember we did some we did some 265 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: some training in the CIA, and they put like basically 266 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: almost they call them beer goggle glasses or something, but 267 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: it was too it was so that you couldn't really see. 268 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: And this is we're going through doors and handling weapons 269 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 2: and things you couldn't really see very well. And it's 270 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: to mimic when your and your heart is pumping super hard. 271 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 2: You lose fine motor skills, get used to being able 272 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: to operate only with gross motor skills. 273 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: Right. 274 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: Very few people in a life or debt situation operate 275 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: anything anywhere near the way they think they will operate 276 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: a lot of people freeze, which one reason why they 277 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 2: also in in in a counter ambush training. For example, 278 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: the mantra, I mean, they just they just drill it 279 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: into your brain is get off the X. Get off 280 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: the X, which is just a way of saying move, 281 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: you gotta move. Because what happens to a lot of people. 282 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 2: Is they hear they hear the pop pop pop of 283 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: the gunfire. You know, stuff spidering the windshield. Even if 284 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: it's bulletproof, you're gonna get some spidering on the glass. 285 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 2: And then they just sit there because they completely freak out. 286 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: And that's the worst thing you can do, because you 287 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: make your easiest possible target. Exactly if you're a pilot, 288 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 2: you know, and you're about to have to make a 289 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: landing like that and you've got the lives of let's say, 290 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty or one hundred and fifty people 291 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: in your hands. I don't know how many people go 292 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: on most of these flights. You know, not everybody would 293 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: react the way Sully did. 294 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: For damn sure. 295 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: That's that's just the truth. I mean, to be able 296 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 2: to do what he did, so that was a remarkable achievement. 297 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: But I guess, I mean, I love it. Clay's like, oh, 298 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: the guy didn't die from hitting his head on the ceiling. 299 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: So I'm not as concerned about turbulence now. If turbulence 300 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: can make you put a dent in the ceiling, I 301 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: have a new like respect for how bad turbulence can be. 302 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: If it can fling you up into the air and 303 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: smash you into the fuselage. Like that's a problem. Yeah, 304 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: but I thought he broke his neck, that's way. Like 305 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: I thought it was like an exors situation where like 306 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: he went to the guy. Yah, very sad he had 307 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: a heart attack. But he had a heart attack. Who's 308 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: very scared. So that's what that's what ended up happening. 309 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: If you have if you have any pilots, one a 310 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: way in any of this, by the way, any of 311 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: these these two knuckleheads, as Uncle Bill would call us 312 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: talking about airline flight stuff, light us up here eight 313 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 2: hundred and two eighty two two eight A two. 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We're gonna 349 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: be joined by our friend Riley Gaines. Got a brand 350 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: new book out. As more and more men continue to 351 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: win women's championships, Riley will break that down with us 352 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: we talked about yesterday Buck in Oregon, the new champion 353 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: of the I believe the two hundred of the four hundred, 354 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: I can't remember which one is a man pretending to 355 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: be a woman, another proud moment in women's athletics. Will 356 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: break all that down with Riley, who is in New 357 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: York City for the launch of her book Very Cool 358 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: and before the show is out, producer Ali will share 359 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: with all of you how close she thought she was 360 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: to death when I was going to put her with 361 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: me in a very small airplane to fly from Milwaukee 362 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: to New York City because we were having the discussion 363 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: about the craziness of the of the turbulence that killed 364 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: a guy and injured a ton of people and made 365 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: us for a moment at least contemplate that maybe we 366 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: would fast. 367 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: The anxiety from the turbulence killed him. 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She's got a new 395 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 2: book out, Swimming Against the Current, fighting for common sense 396 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: in the world that has lost its mind. It comes 397 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 2: out today Swimming against the Current because she's a great swimmer, 398 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: so that all makes sense. And she's also at OutKick, 399 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 2: which Clay founded. And Riley, thanks for being here with us. 400 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: So how how do you think it's going? As people 401 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 2: see you are speaking of college campuses across the country 402 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: we've had you want to talk about how some of 403 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: that has gone. The left gets very upset when you 404 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 2: say men or men, women are women. These aren't the 405 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: same thing. But I'm sure you saw this, this male 406 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: track star that was just absolutely annihilating his female competition 407 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 2: because he says he's a woman. Now where does the fact, 408 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: Where does the fight stand? Where does the battle stand? 409 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: Right now? 410 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 5: Well, Buck, let me clarify one thing really quick. In 411 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 5: your intro, you said I'm a great swimmer. I call 412 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 5: myself a swimmer. Nowadays, I'd probably drown if I got 413 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 5: in the water. 414 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: But look, I'm very buoyant. That's my for me too. 415 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 5: Now, look, this issue, off course, it's becoming more and 416 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 5: more common. 417 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 6: It keeps happening at every level. 418 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 5: We see it at colleges, we see at high schools, 419 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 5: we see it a middle schools, we see it at 420 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 5: elementary schools. This story you're referring to, actually I don't 421 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 5: even know which one, because there were multiple stories this 422 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 5: past week in Track and Field of boys annihilating girls. 423 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 5: We saw it in Washington, we saw it in Oregon. 424 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 5: It's insane, is what it is. But you asked me 425 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 5: where the issue stands. While we keep seeing these negative stories, 426 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 5: I really and truly do believe that the tide is turning. 427 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 6: I believe every day people are waking up. 428 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 5: Speaking to the story in Oregon we saw for really 429 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 5: the first time again it's the same story. A mediocre 430 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 5: man becomes a record smash. On the women's side, he 431 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 5: won the state championship in the women's two hundred meter dash. 432 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 5: He stands atop the podium and the crowd booed. That 433 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 5: would not have happened two years ago. So I think 434 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 5: it's a telltale sign that people are waking up. People 435 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 5: are understanding that no one is immune to this. Like 436 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 5: I think so many of us thought before, we've seen 437 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 5: the trajectory of this. 438 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 2: Now, Riley, what is the Biden administration? First of all, 439 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: congrats on the book. Second, what is the Biden administration 440 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: trying to do with the way that they define Title nine, 441 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 2: which could potentially enshrine men pretending to be women in 442 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 2: women's athletics all across the spectrum of competition. 443 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: What are they doing? 444 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not even what they're trying to do, Clay, 445 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 5: it's what they have done. The Biden administration has rewritten 446 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 5: They rewrote Title nine. Of course, Title nine was the 447 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 5: federal civil rights law that once prevented sex based discrimination 448 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 5: on educational programs that receive federal funding colleges, YMCAs, things 449 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 5: like that, high schools, even but what they have done, 450 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 5: they have taken this thirty seven word only thirty seven 451 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 5: words and its original implementation in nineteen seventy two with 452 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 5: one word being activity, which I think allowed Title nine 453 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 5: to be what it was most notable for in giving 454 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 5: equal opportunities in sports. Of course a lot broader than that, 455 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 5: but what it's most notable for. They took this thirty 456 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 5: seven word piece of legislation and rewrote it to a 457 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 5: almost half a million word proposal and seventy seven pages long. 458 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 5: Again from thirty seven words, that's insane. But really what 459 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 5: this does is it equates, in a nutshell, it equates 460 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 5: sex to gender identity. 461 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 6: So instead of sex based. 462 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 5: Protections, now there are protections enshrined by your gender identity. 463 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 5: This now means that men would have full access to bathrooms, 464 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 5: locker rooms, changing spaces this men's means that men can 465 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 5: potentially be housed in dorm rooms with women. This means 466 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 5: that men can now take academic and athletic scholarships away 467 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 5: from women. Your speech would be compelled. So if you 468 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 5: write a professor or a student, if you use the 469 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 5: biologically incorrect pronouns the preferred pronouns of if you don't 470 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 5: use preferred pronouns, then you would be guilty and charged 471 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 5: with sexual harassment under. 472 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 6: This new rewright. 473 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 5: Not the man parading around your locker room. No to 474 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 5: President Biden, he's said several times, those are some of 475 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 5: the most brave and inspiring people he's ever seen. But 476 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 5: you calling a spade a spade is grounds for sexual harassment. 477 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: It's insane. 478 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: But this is the country, unfortunately, that we are increasingly 479 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 2: forced to live in. 480 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: And we're speaking to Riley Gaines. 481 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: She's got a new book out today, Swimming against the 482 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: current rally. If I am correct here, and I say 483 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 2: that thinking that I'm almost always correct, you have put 484 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 2: out their challenges to different people who want a debate 485 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: on this issue. Is there anyone who will publicly, anyone 486 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 2: of note who will publicly debate that men do not 487 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: have an advantage over women as competitors and athletics like 488 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: Has anyone taken you up on this of no ord? 489 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: Does everyone just push for the policy and then run 490 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 2: away when you ask for an open exchange of ideas 491 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: on it. 492 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 5: We've made public calls for debate on this show. I 493 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 5: know we've publicly called on Keith Olberman, that guy, we've 494 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 5: publicly called on Megan Rapino. I'll go even further. I 495 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 5: would love to talk with Billy Jean King. What a 496 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 5: more I guess, notable person to talk to on this topic, 497 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 5: given the fact that she's really who we have to 498 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 5: accredit Title nine too. She played in the Battle of 499 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 5: the Sexes and she won and it was this huge feat. Yeah. Well, 500 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 5: now Billy Jen King is actively fighting for male inclusion 501 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 5: into women's sports and women's spaces. No, I've reached out 502 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: to CNN, I've reached out to MSNBC, and I've either 503 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 5: gotten no response or they've responded back and said, we're 504 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 5: not going to give you. 505 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 6: A platform to spread your hate. 506 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 5: But you know what that tells me. It tells me 507 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 5: that they don't have a rebuttal for anything that I'm saying. Right, 508 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 5: what happened to follow the science? 509 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 6: They are not. They are certainly not doing that now, Riley. 510 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: I encourage everybody to go check out your book and 511 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: to share it with their daughters and also their sons, 512 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: because I think people increasingly are coming around to how 513 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: crazy this is. But I know you saw this. We 514 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: shared it at OutKick. One of our writers got Don 515 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: Staley to say that a man identifying as a woman 516 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: should be able to compete in women's college basketball in 517 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: her opinion. We then reach she's the national champion University 518 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 1: of South Carolina women's basketball coach For people who don't know. 519 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: OutKick then reached out to fifteen other women's NCUBA Tournament coaches, 520 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: in particular, every women's coach that made the sweet sixteen 521 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: of the NCUBA Tournament. What does it say that Don 522 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: Staley said yes, men should be able to play? The 523 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: other fifteen wouldn't even answer outkicks question. I do think 524 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: we're winning this battle, but how much cowardice is They're 525 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: still out there? 526 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 5: It's in every realm where I mean, that's why our nation. 527 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 5: I believe our nation is in decline for several reasons, 528 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 5: one of which we live in a godless society. But 529 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 5: two it's because we have weak week leaders. Again at 530 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 5: every level. We have Week leaders in academia, we have 531 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 5: Week leaders in corporate America, we have week leaders of 532 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 5: course within our government, even our spiritual leaders. So it 533 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 5: seems are unwilling to take a stand on these these 534 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 5: topics that they have deemed controversial. But let's be very clear, 535 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 5: it is the least controversial thing to say that both 536 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 5: sexes of are deserving of equal opportunities. How in the 537 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: world have we reached a point in time where it's 538 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 5: controversial to say that women deserve privacy and areas of undressing. 539 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 5: I mean that would have been common since five years ago. 540 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 5: A DA would have followed a man who goes into 541 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 5: a woman's bathroom into a women's locker room, into that 542 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 5: locker room and arrested him on charges of sexual harassment, voyeurism, 543 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 5: and decent exposure. The list goes on. But now, as 544 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 5: I said, it's deemed brave, we are told we are 545 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 5: the problem if we oppose this, So again the cowardice. 546 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 5: It's incredibly sad because I can guarantee you I really can. 547 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 5: Even speaking for Don Staley. 548 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 6: I shouldn't say. 549 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 5: Speaking for but I imagine she knows the differences between 550 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 5: men and women. No one would know who Don Staley 551 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 5: was if she wasn't afforded the rights to play women's basketball. 552 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 5: And look, that's not to say she wasn't an incredible athlete. 553 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 5: She obviously had an incredible coaching career. I think her 554 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 5: record the last three years was one hundred and nine 555 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 5: and three. I mean that's unheard of. But she can 556 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 5: be two things at once. A great coach, but also 557 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 5: a sellout, and that's exactly what she's proven herself to be. 558 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: Riley Gaines. 559 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: Everybody the book Swimming against the current, fighting for common 560 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: sense in the world that's lost its mind out today. 561 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: Get your copy. Riley Gaines, thank you for doing what 562 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: you do. Appreciate it. 563 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 6: I appreciate you, guys, so thank you. 564 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I don't know if you heard. 565 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: President Trump apparently appreciates this too. I'm just saying I 566 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 2: saw that he gave a shout out. 567 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: He was trying. He was trying to impress Riley in Lexington, 568 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: which not a bad move by him, because she's pretty 569 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: popular in Kentucky. And let's be honest, Kentucky Wildcats don't 570 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: have a lot of athletic success of late to be celebrating, 571 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: particularly in the SEC. They need Riley back. I think 572 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: she might be off the mic because that's the only 573 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: way I can take it. 574 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 6: Hour no ye, no, no no. 575 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 5: I'm just waiting to make some common about Rocky Top here, Clay. 576 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 6: I'm biting my tongue, That's what I'm doing. 577 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, maybe this is your year in 578 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: football for the first time in eighty. 579 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 5: That is what Tennessee fans have said for so long, 580 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 5: next year is our year. 581 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 6: Next year is our year. I'll be waiting, Clay. 582 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have ever been a 583 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: center party where people started screaming at each other in 584 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: a foreign language. 585 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: But that's kind of how I feel. Right Welcome to 586 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: the sec Bock. 587 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 5: This is what it's like November second, neland Stadium. 588 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 6: Clay, We'll see you there. 589 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: Balls all right, good, good stuff. Gonna get Google Translate 590 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,239 Speaker 2: going here. All right, Look, Clay and I have all 591 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: the energy we need to save America. But you know, 592 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: some days it's easier than others. 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We got 622 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of you who want to way in to 623 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: finish off the show again. Congrats to Riley Gains for 624 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: her new book out. Thanks for joining us. I think 625 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: she has had a tremendous impact on all of the 626 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: chaos out there as it pertains to the fact that 627 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: we've ever had a situation like this. We got a 628 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: bunch of callers who want to weigh in on a 629 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: variety of different topics, in particular what exactly happened when 630 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: it comes to the airline situation. Let's start with Terrence. 631 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: What you got for us. 632 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 3: Hei, You guys doubled it. 633 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: Appreciate that Mega ditos, Thank you, sir. 634 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 3: You bet. My background is air force fighters, and then 635 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 3: I got out of the regulars and I threw for 636 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 3: a commercial air carrier for over thirty one years. 637 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: And it's like my father in. 638 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 3: Law, sounds like it. But I stayed in the reserve 639 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: for another twenty one. So I had twenty seven in 640 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: the military and thirty one and major air carrying through 641 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 3: international my last twenty years. So the thing that people 642 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 3: don't understand, it's like texting when you're driving a car. 643 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: The airplanes moving. The airplanes moving at at point eight 644 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 3: to eighty five mac three hundred knots indicated, and it's moving, 645 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 3: and people get up and they start feeling so comfortable 646 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: in their situation that they they lacked the they lacked 647 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: the judgment to put their seatbelt times. 648 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want those people. 649 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 3: I always get up and move around, has no problem that. 650 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 3: But if the captain has a seatbelt sign on, you 651 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: better have your seatbelt sign. 652 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: What's the scariest thing you ever saw as a pilot? 653 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: Was there ever a time where you thought, uh, oh, 654 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: what would you say? Is the scariest time you ever 655 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: had in the cockpit? 656 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: Oh? That's when they had a bomb. Somebody sent me 657 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 3: a bomb note up to the cockpit and said there 658 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: was a bomb on board this airplane golf at six. 659 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 3: We're on our way to Manchester. And I didn't know 660 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: where the six o'clock Chicago times, six o'clock London time 661 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: or what. 662 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: So they just gave a note to a flight attendant, 663 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: and the flight attendant came up handed it to you, 664 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: and it said there was a bomb on the plane. 665 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 7: No it wasn't. 666 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: They didn't give it a fight attendant. They put the 667 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 3: note in the laboratory on the mirror, and then they 668 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 3: brought it up to me. I still have a copy 669 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 3: of it anyway, But Turgullans, I've had it severe at 670 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 3: least five times and the autopilot's time. But the airplane's 671 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 3: moving all over the place, and that does throw passengers around. 672 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 3: That's why matter even if it's smooth. Because one time 673 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 3: I had a dodge balloons just south of Lake Michigan, 674 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 3: those those aluminum balloons. I didn't know what it was 675 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,959 Speaker 3: until it was passive, but I saw someone coming at 676 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 3: a high rate of speed right on my head and 677 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 3: I did an evasive maneuver and threw some people around. 678 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 3: And it was those stupid balloons of people that go. 679 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 3: You know, so it should be. 680 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: I have people ever hit the ceiling because of turbulence 681 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: when you were flying. 682 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 3: No, they've been thrown out of their seats. I have 683 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 3: had friends where they were throwing it and those liquor 684 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 3: carts they were throwing one was stuck up in the 685 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 3: over Yeah, you could believe that those things are yeah 686 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 3: and uh. And the thing other thing is you've got 687 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 3: to be aware that you've got to be cognizant of 688 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 3: your fellow passengers because you could get thrown up in 689 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: the air and land on somebody. 690 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 2: In her soun terrence, you're you're you're a veteran and 691 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: obviously lifetime pilot. 692 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you. It's important question. 693 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 2: If our man Clay here was let's say everyone in 694 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: the plane got knocked out, don't there's some issue and 695 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: Clay has to land the plane, and you have cell 696 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 2: phone communication with Clay. Could you talk him through landing 697 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: a standard you know, Boeing jetliner? If you were taking 698 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 2: him piece by piece, could you get him to land 699 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: the plane? 700 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: Or is everybody toast? Possibly? 701 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 3: If if he could get the autopilot, we're on and 702 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 3: he could get into auto land if the airplane had 703 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 3: auto land. But to take somebody without auto land, they'll 704 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: kill everybody. They may as well just take it straight in. 705 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 3: And he left the torture on. Everybody were on your back, 706 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: pull the those straight down and die. 707 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 2: Clay, you got to find that autopilot, my man. That's 708 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 2: a big swig there. Yeah, there's thank you for the call. 709 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: Thank you man. Vicki and Florida retired flight attendant. What's 710 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: going on? Vicki? 711 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: Hi? 712 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 7: Hi? How are you? 713 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: We're good? 714 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: You feel like I'm about to be told to buckle 715 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 2: up or to put my tray away? 716 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: Go ahead? 717 00:34:59,120 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 2: Okay? 718 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 7: Well, I was a flight attendant for seventeen years, starting 719 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 7: back in the seventies through ninety one, I worked for 720 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 7: Eastern Airlines and unfortunately they went out of business. I 721 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 7: have an aeronaucal science degree as well from every Riddle, 722 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 7: and I was a flight attendant instructor for a couple 723 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 7: of years and went to the similar Medical Institute for 724 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 7: training in Oklahoma. Whether it's still there or not, I'm 725 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 7: not sure, but anyway, I think the question that was 726 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 7: asked earlier is that number one about I think everybody, 727 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 7: first of all, needs to keep their seatbelt on all 728 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 7: times regardless. That is definitely an important feature. And I 729 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 7: know that people you know, when the seatbelt sign comes off, 730 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 7: that's really just to let people know that they can 731 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 7: get up to use the restroom or move about a 732 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 7: little bit. But that doesn't mean while you're sitting there 733 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 7: you should have your seatbelt on. Second of all, as 734 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 7: I always have and I have always encouraged us with 735 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 7: my kids and everything, is that when you get board 736 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 7: in aircraft, you don't know what airplane it is. You 737 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 7: don't know whether it's a bowling, you don't you don't 738 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 7: know anything so or an a three hundred whatever. So 739 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 7: I always tell them to review the safety card because 740 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 7: you want to know who your exits are regardless. 741 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 2: And then Vicky, thank you very Vicky, we're at time, 742 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I feel like the Dean just 743 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 2: showed up and told me that no, in fact, you 744 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 2: are not allowed to spray shaving cream. 745 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: At your friends in the hallway or whatever. 746 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like, fine, fine, seatbelts are 747 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 2: good for safety on the plane, what about your playing. 748 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: I fly back in a little bit. I'm gonna try 749 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: to remember to put my air's put my seatbelt. 750 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 2: Vicky's clearly right, and after that story, I'm a little 751 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 2: worri I'm gonna listen to her. I just I feel like, 752 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 2: you know, no more horseplay allowed on the planes? 753 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: All right, fine, tomorrow. And he's about to walk into 754 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: the studio. Jim Jordan, congressman from Ohio. We're taping it now, 755 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow,