WEBVTT - Fire Tornado vs Sharknado 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:05.920 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:14.640 Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.160 My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas. And 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:20.160 as the title suggests, on this episode, who we're talking 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:24.599 about two types of LORDI sees. We're talking about the 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:29.520 fire tornado, this giant pillar of flame stretching from from 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:33.159 Earth to heaven, burning up everything in its path, pitching 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:37.040 flaming debris out in front of it. And then we 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:41.080 also have the sharknado, a a tornado, a more or 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.279 less traditional tornado, but instead of having a bunch of 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.879 you know, bits of houses and broken trees and garbage 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:51.040 and dirt caught up in it, it has great white 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.920 sharks throwing them all over the place. Uh, you know, 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:55.600 You're trying to just go about your daily life and 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:57.800 then bam, white shark it's you, starts eating your leg. 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.360 Then a hammerhead shark falls on you and crushes Yeah. 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.480 I mean it's pretty exciting, and we are bringing you 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:06.160 both or all of earth, wind, fire, rain and sharks. 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.440 Yeah spoiler. One of these is a little more sciences 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:12.840 than the other. But by the end of it, we 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:14.760 will we will put the question to you, because right 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:17.280 now you don't have enough information to really say what 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:21.119 would win in a fight sharpnado or or or fire tornado. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.319 But by the end of this podcast, you will know 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.280 and you'll have an informed opinion you can share with 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.400 your friends. All right, let's get to it. We'll start 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.600 off with the idea of the fire tornado. Now, just 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:33.080 the idea again of a pillar or column of fire, uh, 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.880 swirling up into the sky is a pretty old image, 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:38.560 I mean for starters is we'll discuss it is a 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.959 natural phenomenon. So in all likelihood, people have been seeing 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.360 this sort of thing occur or and then hearing about 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.200 it since time out of mind. But it's also factored 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.960 into this symbol of its factored into into our our 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.040 religious views and our spiritual views of the world. For instance, 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:57.680 if you go digging around in the Old Testament, you 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:01.840 will find accounts of Yahweh taking on the form of 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:06.560 a pillar of fire. Exodus one and the Lord went 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.520 before them by day in a pillar of a cloud 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.160 to leave them the way, and by night in a 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.720 pillar of fire to give them light to go by 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:17.440 day and night. I mean, this is really impressive, right, 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.680 This is an impressive talisman to have at your disposal. Yeah. Yeah, 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:22.400 and this is yeah, this is the you know, the 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:26.280 the old school uh God here, this is the pretty 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.519 terrifying one that it does things like appear as a 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:32.240 pillar of fire. And then there's another really cool account 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:33.959 of of a deity as a pillar of fire that 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.720 you'll find in Hinduism and according to one Hindu narrative, 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.400 and you'll you'll see this reflected in sculpture and painting 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:44.040 as well. UH, Brahma and Vishnu are arguing over who's 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.520 the most powerful of the gods. Uh. Now, Brahma and Vishnu, 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.480 they are part of this uh a form of kind 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.320 of the comal kind of trinity with Shiva. Um. They 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.240 stand for world creation in the form of Brahma, world 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.800 maintenance in the form of Vishnu, and then a world 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.800 destruction in the form of Shiva. So Brahma vision near. 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:02.959 They're standing around who's the most powerful to gods? I 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:05.000 don't know, it's it's an argument. But then this huge 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:08.640 column of fire appeared right between them, burning straight down 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.960 into the earth and searing up through the clouds high up. 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.280 So they decided to investigate. Right, they're curious, so Vishnu, 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.840 in his boar incarnation, digs down into the earth and 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:20.760 attempt to find the column's base. Meanwhile, Brahma flies into 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.160 the sky on his vehicle, the Hamsa bird to seek 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.240 the columns top show off. Yeah, well the other one 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.919 turned into a boar. Yeah that's pretty cool too. So yeah, 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:32.560 they both take on their their godly bowers and they 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.120 seek the the end or beginning to this column of fire. 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.560 Neither can find anything, so they fly back down to 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.040 where they started and they say, I don't know, I 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.520 can't figure this out. And then the column of fire 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:46.240 opens up and Shiva uh steps forth, and then they 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.440 both have to agree, Yeah, she is probably the most 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.040 powerful of the three of us. That's right, because Shiva 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:55.760 is the great destroyer, particularly of the ego. Yes, so 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.680 it would make sense that Shiva would roll it out 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.880 like that. So there you go. There's a little religious, 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:05.560 mythical spiritual fluff to sort of flavor uh, this idea 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.960 of the fire tornado, which does exist in real luck. Now, 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.760 to talk about what a fire tornado is, we need 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.840 to also discuss what tornadoes are and what what a 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.200 tornado isn't I also want to mention before we go 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:20.599 into fire tornadoes that this was something that was a 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:24.160 standout at of course, the Burning Man Festival, Yes, just 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.280 put on in the in the desert in California to 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:31.760 search for two thousand twelve fire tornadoes. Burning Man mesmerizing 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:35.160 videos of the smoke devils just marching out one by 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.680 one in front of the audience. Yeah, with some it 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:39.919 was hard to tell from those videos to what extent 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.520 they have fire in them, because they're clearly the gleaming 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.240 of the of the flat of the fire, of the 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.880 huge blaze is is illuminating them as they roll outward. 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.760 I think the I think they're mostly smokes actually, yeah, 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.240 but they are impressive nonetheless. So these are also known 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:58.560 as fire whirls or even fire devils. Uh. Again, they're 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.840 swirling columns of fire and they surge forward to consume 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.880 new fuel, sometimes heaving flaming logs through the air. That's 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.559 been reported now, to a lay person, any funnel shaped 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.000 column of air is a tornado, right, it's a twister 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.640 or whatever. But meteorologists tend to be a little more 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.080 discriminating about this kind of thing, and they classify twisters 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:21.039 into two broad categories. Their super cell and their non 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.680 super cell and it's it's all based on how they 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.640 form and how much DAMA they inflict. Uh. For a 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:28.960 storm to be called a supercell tornado, it must have 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.440 had it must have three characteristics. Okay, it must form 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.560 within a massive thunderstorm and be penned it or suspended 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.320 from that storm. Okay. Number two, it must come in 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.640 contact with the surface of the Earth. And number three, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.680 it must have winds in excess of sixty five or 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:47.080 a hundred and five kilometers per hour. Any other tornado 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.640 that fails to meet these standards would fall into the 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:53.320 non super cell category. And that includes, for instance, water spouts. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.599 Water spouts they look like they might just be like 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.279 a tornado in the ocean, but they're not. They form 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:03.120 a different way, arising from cumulus clouds that haven't become 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:06.320 thunderstorms that may never become thunderstorms. And then it's sucking 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.120 up water and you know, marching across the ocean looking 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:13.160 like some sort of giant Titanic water creature. Uh. Then 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.960 you have land spouts, you have gust nadoes, and Uh. Finally, 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.280 whether scientists recognize a third class of tornado like storms 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:24.040 known as whirlwinds Okay, now this is key. Um. These 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.360 common types of atmospheric systems occur when the sun heats 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.240 dry terrain and causes a column of warm air to 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.760 rise rapidly. As it does, the column of air will 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.960 whirl rotate around a vertical access, much like water draining 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.960 down in the bathtub, you know, becomes visible when they 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.680 pick up debris from the ground, and are often named 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:44.880 to reflect the nature of the debris. So you have 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.640 this little little vortex and picking up some dust. That's 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.160 a dust devil. It's picking up sand. You call it 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.680 a sand world, picking up snow, snow whirls. If it 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.920 were to pick up sharks, you would be more uh, 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.640 you know, accurate in calling it a shirk a shark whirl, 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.480 I guess. But then they're also even have a worlds 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:02.480 where it's picking up Hey. So again, wind doesn't look 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.400 like anything, but when it picks up these things, then 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.160 it takes. That's the thing that we associate with it. 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:12.200 So fire tornadoes have They are not operating exactly alike. 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.679 Tornadoes are probably closer to worlds, but even then they're 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.640 not specifically like you can't say, hey, that's that's actually 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.520 like a whirlwind um. But they do have again some 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:27.000 of the same things that play like vortices, uh, intense 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.040 up drafts, they've got rotation, and of course the conditions 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.040 have to be met in order for a fire tornado 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:36.880 to be created. Thing about fire tornadoes, just to remember 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.200 that you gotta you gotta have a fire. And when 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:41.800 you have a fire going, and it could be a 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.840 house fire, it could be a burning city, it could 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.520 be a forest fire. But when you have a blaze 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.040 of this magnitude, you essentially have a microclimate. You have 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:55.560 a different set of air temperature, air pressure um going on. 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:57.640 And as we've discussed before, I mean those are the 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.840 that's that's how wind moves, that's how most of our 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:05.320 weather patterns that we observe. It boils down to temperature differentials, 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.560 pressure deferentials, et cetera. Yeah, no one describes them as 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.800 forming when superheated air near the surface of a large 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.920 fire zone like a wildfire. By the way, I just 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.480 head an NPR today. There are fifty wildfires going on 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.960 in the US right now. Um And anyway, so if 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.080 you have one of these conditions, it's very rare, but 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.239 this can occur. You've got that surface of large fire zone, 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.360 and it rises rapidly in an air mass where sufficient 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:34.000 horizontal or vertical vorticity that's the spin in the atmosphere 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.679 is also present. So like a dust double or whirlwind, 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.280 the rapidly rising air abubble wildfire can accelerate and turn 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:45.400 the local vorticity into a tight vertical vortex made out 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:49.840 of fire instead of dust and dust devils will peter 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:53.319 out pretty quickly, but the sustained heat of a wildfire 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.880 zone can help maintain a fairly long lived fire whirl 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.400 and that can last for several minutes or more. Yeah, 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:01.959 it is to appear to dance around through the fire 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.079 and in some cases can fit out from the fire 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.920 and and spread the wildfire into an area that it 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.760 may have been already moving towards. Anyway, So you have 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:12.720 a specific example to share with us. We're talking in 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:16.680 generalities here, but you have a specific story of a 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.720 fire tornage. Yeah. This is basically like an anatomy of 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.640 a whorl from a weather perspective. And this is according 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:26.560 to a Langdon North Dakota meteorological team reporting on a 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:30.760 fire tornado that reached the base of developing cumuliform clouds 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:35.240 and it stretched feet that's about into the air and 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:39.400 it lasted for about ten minutes. Was pretty impressive. So um, 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.440 what the London North Dakota meteorologists said is that the 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:46.439 fire zone heating produced the rapidly rising air, and then 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.000 you have the lower level winds that had enough environmental 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.560 share to induce a vertical vorticity near the surface and 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:54.840 get the fire a world going and then sustain it. 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.400 And then two other factors where at play um, they 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.760 have a low level moist sure that was sufficient to rise, 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:06.520 cool condense and form the pyro cumulus cloud deck that 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.080 it was built upon. And then the other factor was 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.800 the lifted condensation level was close enough to the level 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:15.600 of free convection so that the developing pyrocumulus quickly became 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.600 a towering cumulus. And that may have increased the overall 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:24.240 updraft speed and vertical verticity to such an extent that 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:28.280 the near surface fire world stretched into then drum mold 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.800 a fire tornado. So we got upgraded in this sense. Alright, well, 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.480 we're gonna take a quick break. When we come back, 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.040 we're gonna discuss fire tornadoes a little more. They were 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.880 gonna move on to sharknadoes and then we are going 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:44.120 to attend to call it shardonado versus fire tornado would 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:55.760 be right back. All right, we're back. We're discussing fire tornadoes. Um. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.400 There are a few other examples we have about wheel 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.120 life fired mornadoes when they form. Uh. And some of 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:06.280 these examples are drawing for a much more tragic circumstances. UM. 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:12.080 The for instance, the great uh Suchtigo fire one in Prestigo, Wisconsin, 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.280 UH and apparently also in sections of Michigan. And this 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:20.320 is ablaze that consumed booming Milltown on the same day 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.679 as the Chicago fire. And there's a result of the 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.920 same conditions. You had a dry summer, slashing bird farming 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.880 practice in a powerful cold front that swooped in from 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.920 the western US, bringing strong winds that turned h just 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.280 a few small prairie fires into a raging inferno. So 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.120 this town, which Cannain, also contained hundreds of wooden structures 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.400 and lumber yards overflowing with all of this, uh, you know, 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:45.040 delicious fodder for ablaze right in the in the in 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.680 the middle of everything. So when a fire reached the town, 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.400 it found a ready supply of fuel and in a 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:53.640 matter of minutes, a massive fire tornado swirled around the town, 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:58.640 generating a hundred mile one kilometer winds and ambient temperatures 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:03.559 topping out at seven degrees fahrenheit or three seventy degrees celsius. 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.040 So sadly, the people who didn't make it into the 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.160 river died in the flames, and it still ranks as 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.840 one of the worst US fire disasters. Final death toll 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:15.240 of about a two thousand. Here's another one in three, 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.680 the Great Canto earthquake in Japan ignited a firestorm that 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.280 raged through the city and produced a gigantic fire tornado 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:26.520 that killed thirty eight thousand people in fifteen minutes. And 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.679 this was in the Hifaku Shu Auto region of Tokyo. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.760 And then you have the San Luis Obispo fire April seven, 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.920 uh is during a moderate thunderstorm over the area there 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:43.200 in California, lightning struck oil reserves at a Union Oil 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.800 Company tank farm located uh just about two and a 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.920 half miles south of the city center, and the discharge 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.440 ignited the oil itself or vapors above the oil, leading 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.160 to a five day fire. They consumed roughly six million 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.920 barrels of patrolling and over the course of it is 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:05.040 after eyewitnesses observed apparently hundreds of fire tornadoes erupting as 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.800 a result of the blaze. So yeah, I mean it's 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.680 it is amazing stuff a scene, and there's tons of 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:15.200 videos also, um, not just of a naturally occurring but 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:19.599 of people trying to create their own uh fire tornadoes 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.720 and team to them. Some of them are professionals, uh, 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:28.240 are merely enthusiasts, right right, But it gives you a 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.880 really good idea of all the different things that are 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:34.720 at play here in directing the wind and the rotation. Yeah, 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:38.320 because it's what discussed before. Wildfires, you know, of themselves 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:42.079 are natural occurrences. Uh. The environments where they frequently occur, 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.760 you often have have organisms that depend on that cycle 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:50.600 of fire and regrowth in order to continue and uh. 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.120 And then you have these artificial environments that we create 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:54.920 and then when they catch fire, you end up with 0:13:55.120 --> 0:14:00.640 artificial blazes. That's true. Uh. And those are all amazing sites. 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.160 But but nothing is more amazing than seeing a terror 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.840 read rise from the ashes of her own career and 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:13.240 starring Sharknado. But also to see sharks just coming at 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:17.080 you from from a storm in the sky. Yeah, now 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.080 this is this has kind of been the summer of Sharknado. 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.800 It's really been something that everyone has rallied around. That's, 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.240 of course, the the Sci Fi Channel original picture that 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.800 came out that had a pretty strong viral marketing campaign 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:33.440 behind it, and it's just goofy enough two enrapture everyone 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.560 on some level or another, basically the whole the whole 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:41.520 idea here is that a tornado spins off from the ocean, 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.840 picks up all of these uh, these these sharks, all 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.920 of them like massive sharks, and it comes in and 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.080 just throwing them everywhere. So it's dropping sharks into pools 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:55.120 and two flooded houses into the street onto people, and 0:14:55.840 --> 0:15:00.560 hilarious ridiculousness ensues. And you actually he sent me a 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:04.040 two minute clip that sort of encapsulates the whole movie. Yeah, 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:07.800 it just boils it down to dumblines and and kills, 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.160 and it was kind of wonderful and awful. In my 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.520 favorite part and I'm sure for people who have seen 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.720 it or have seen the clip is the guy Ian 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.920 someone from nine O two one. Oh, I don't know 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.400 some show. He like, I'm pretending like I don't know 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.120 what show that is. He's in Sharknado. You don't have 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:28.520 to know this, okay, Yeah, he falls from rescue helicopter. Yes, 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:30.920 And and then of course into the jaws of a 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:34.640 great white. And did I mention that as he's falling, 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:39.600 he actually has a chainsaw with him, so as he's 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.960 gulped up by the great white. Uh, they both fall 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:47.080 to the ground and and he emerges, of course from 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.040 from the great White, cutting himself out of it. And 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:55.560 it's it's a fabulous, disgusting, ridiculous scene. And I'm sure 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.640 O when everyone sees these trailers or God help him, 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:02.280 watches the whole movie, asked themselves, could this actually happen? 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:06.000 Could a sharponado actually hit my tent and hound my 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.600 city and drop sharks on me? Well, we know there 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:12.120 have been fish events, that's the thing. Yeah, and plenty 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:16.680 of accounts of of of weather patterns picking up strange things, 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:20.240 often living things, and dropping them. Suddenly it'll rain fish somewhere. Yeah. 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.880 Water spouts, as he had mentioned before, um one of 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:24.960 the types of twisters and tornadoes that are carron in 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.520 the ocean. One in two and ten sucked up hundreds 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.080 of fish into the vortex before they bombarded the small 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.960 town of La jam Hope. I've said that correctly. I'm 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:39.040 sure our Australian listeners will let me know. But that 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.760 was hundreds of miles from the coast and then from 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:45.720 my favorite ones a downpour of golf balls, not golf 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:49.040 sized hail, um, but we're talking about actual golf balls 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.240 descended upon Punta Gorda, Florida, after tornado struck the golf course. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:58.560 It's like golf ballonnado. Yeah. Yeah, So that sounds pretty terrifying. 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.440 That could that could hurt, doesn't it. But just I 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:05.239 wanted to cover water spouts really quickly because again, as 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.800 we said, these are essentially tornadoes over water, and there 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:11.040 are two types. There's a fair weather on a tornadic one. 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.640 And the tornadic water spouts begin as tornadoes over land 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:18.520 and then they move over water. And they also form 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.239 in severe thunderstorms over a body of water, and they 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.560 can re really a ton of havoc. We're talking about 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.680 high winds, hail, and dangerous lightning. Now, fair weather water 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:31.480 spouts developed in calmer weather and they form over open 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.359 water and they developed this surface and then they climbed 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.560 skyward towards the clouds so as we've seen again these 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:42.480 these are natural occurring events that can dump um golf 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:46.280 balls or sea creatures onto the land. Yeah, but the 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:49.679 sea creatures that they dumped were generally talking stuff like 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.920 like a large mouth bath nine and a fourth inches long. 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:56.240 That's according to Dr Jeff Masters over the Weather Underground, 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.320 that's one of the heaviest uh like for instance, six 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.520 pound fish all in India. That's the kind of the 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.199 level of fish we're talking about, not a two thousand 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:08.000 pounds great white shark, much less hundreds of them. That's right. 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:12.440 And Bill pats Aert, a chomatologist with the Jet Propulsion Lab, 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.200 he was given the what if question, like what what 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.119 if it could happen, what would it take? And he 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.480 said it would take a massive water spout to deliver 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.320 these great whites, like an e F five spinning at 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.359 speeds of more than two fifty miles per hour to 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.560 journey the updraft needed to suck these great whites out 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.919 of the Pacific and then dumped them onto l ah 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:37.200 And that he said, is just probably not ever going 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.760 to occur. Now, having heard from an expert that it 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.160 is on some level feasible, I can't help but imagine, 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.840 what have you had a planet where this type of weather, 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:52.440 we're strong enough, winds and and and vortices were possible. 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.359 What have you had a breed of shark like creature 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.399 that depended on this like it was for this creature, 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.840 this was like the salmon swimming stream to breed. To breed, 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.840 they have to enter one of these water spouts and 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.359 get thrown out on land, and then they have to 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:11.360 eat terror read in order to reproduce. Well, first of all, 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.160 you're saying, there's a planet people with just terror reads. Yeah, 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.879 maybe their clones. I don't know how it works. There's 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.040 but everyone all beat all the beings on the land 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:22.919 or terror read. Okay, so planet terror read yeah, and 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:26.120 planet shark sharks and terror read living in perfect harmony 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.160 with one another. And this is kind of like, well, 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:29.840 I know this would be asking asked if it was 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:31.560 like an or division era, but it would have to 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:35.639 be much farther in the future than that, because you 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.400 have land dwelling terror reads occurring. I guess it would 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:41.400 be possible. I don't know. I hate to say that, 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.639 you'd I'd have to be a meteorologist to really answer that. 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:48.359 And a cosmologist. Well, there you have it. We've broken 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.639 it down. You have, on one side, the fire tornado, 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:55.080 which actually exists, is rare, but exists and has been 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.640 documented and seen throughout human history and may or may 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.359 not be a god. And then on the other hand, 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:07.800 you have the sharknado, which does not exist and will 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:11.560 probably never exist on this planet, but is on some 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:16.359 level possible. So which would win in a fight? What's 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.879 your take sharknado versus fire tornado? Yes? And do you 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:22.800 think that terror read Is is the the great destroyer 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:26.000 or is she just fodder for the great destroyers on 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.000 planet terror read Let us sim all right, well you're 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:33.160 complicating the question. And then here's another possibility. What if 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.440 the two storms merged and then you had to deal 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:39.680 with a fire tornado filled with flaming sharks when they 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.520 just cancel each other out, No, no, I think they would. 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.080 It would upgrade. It would be like sharks on fire 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:51.879 soaring through the air like meteorites, particularly if that water 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:55.080 had a generous amount of a oil slick on it. Right, Oh, 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:57.240 then it would be sort of like fire breathing. It 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:02.040 would be like a napalm shark tornado. Yeah, it's pretty big. 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:05.520 I think that's going to be the sequel. All right, well, 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:07.720 here you go. Uh. Indeed, let us know what you 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:11.080 think about this, um. The idea of Terry read is 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:14.160 a destroyer of worlds. 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