1 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome to Between the Horns. It's a 2 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: little bit. 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: Spooky addition, and actually we have a lot to celebrate 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: today as there's also a new World Series Champion in 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: the city of la But of course this Between the 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: Horns is presented by our Southern California at Toyota Dealers. 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: Cameron went alongside my good friends Jav Long and Maurice Jones. 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Drew. We're coming off some big wins here in this 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: city as well. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: But any special plans for Halloween. I know Jav's not 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: the biggest fan. 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: Look at the side. I already not a Halloween guy. 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 3: You know this about me. 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 4: I thought you'd get into it for the kids, though, 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 4: now you've dressed up before. 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: Before, not a long time. I'm not here to dampen 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 3: anyone's holiday. Just please get up early tomorrow morning and 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: clean up all your decorations because it's November. It's Thanksgiving time. 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 5: Oh oh, that's what you're waiting for. I get it. 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: I thought he was talking about the parade that's probably 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: take in place tomorrow. 22 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: No, that's true, Yes, that's true. 23 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I enjoy that. I'm a big Halloween guy. 24 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 4: I don't know, I won't be able to celebrate this 25 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 4: year because I'll be working, but like in spirit, I'll 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 4: be dressed up in whatever the hottest thing is right now. 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 5: I don't know what it is. 28 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: I mean, in fairness, I don't like scary movies. I 29 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: don't like chocolate. It's just not tailored to me. 30 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 5: I'm not a chocolate guy either. Scary movies I'm a 31 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 5: little wonky with. 32 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 4: But some I think some scary movies I've actually gone 33 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 4: back and watched them from like in the past, and 34 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 4: they're funny because it's like like, come on, like E 35 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 4: really scared people. 36 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 5: But you know, neither here nor. 37 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: This whole season though, especially during the World Series, I'm 38 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: trying to, Like, my kids want to watch baseball, I'm 39 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 3: there with them, and then every commercial break I'll be like, 40 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 3: close your eyes, look away. It's all the scary movies. 41 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 5: Oh is it? 42 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: Oh yeah? 43 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: My life was ruined by the movie Birds. Let's just 44 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: put it that way. I watched that at far too 45 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: young of an age, and it has completely shifted my. 46 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: My personal space. 47 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: Walking down the street I live on, there are crows 48 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: that come at me and I swear they dive bomb. 49 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: It's a very dangerous dangerous street I live on, but 50 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: we'll get rid of the scary because there's anything but 51 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: scariness happening right here in the Los Angeles Rams franchise. 52 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: Two wins in five days. We got to go all 53 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: the way back to Thursday night. I think we should 54 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: relive this one a little while long. QUESHI, guys, I 55 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: have to ask, how do you quantify this win? Because 56 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: it was massive. We saw the return of both Puka 57 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: and Cooper, and Matthew Stafford was just simply lights out. 58 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know. 59 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 4: JB kind of brought it to a tension A couple 60 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: between the Horns ago about like these two games are 61 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: the most important games determines the fate of your franchise. 62 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 4: Do you go garage sale right if the season's kind 63 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 4: of gotten away from you, or do you win these 64 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: both and now you have a chance you're fighting for something. 65 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: To me, the offense, the team, everything just looks so 66 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 4: different with Cooper, Cup and pukin the cou out there, 67 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 4: it was it was a completely different team. And it 68 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 4: reminds me of your guys. Your guys are your guys 69 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 4: for a reason, and when you're out there, you don't 70 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 4: have those guys, not even the skinsically, I'm just talking 71 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: about players playing like Matthew Stafford getting out of that sack. 72 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: He would have never did that if those two guys 73 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 4: weren't out there, because again, it was just different. It 74 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 4: was just a different type of energy that was out there. 75 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: And so to me, well, I can't say he would 76 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: have never done it. He would have tried it, but 77 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: I don't know if he'd have been successful. But to me, 78 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: it was just like certain things like Sean lining up 79 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 4: and going forward on fourth down and. 80 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 5: Not motioning or shifting right. 81 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 4: That's something we haven't seen and I don't know how 82 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 4: many years, And so it was just everyone was playing 83 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 4: with a different type of energy. Everyone was playing with 84 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 4: a different sense of urgency and a focus. And when 85 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 4: you have the guys out there and they're not even completely 86 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: healthy yet, if they can get obviously you get Steve 87 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: Agula back or Jonah Jackson or Joe Nobleman, did you 88 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 4: get those guys. 89 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 5: Back, Now you're really playing with house money. 90 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: And so to me, I just think when you quantified 91 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 4: it's the health of your team really showed how explosive 92 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 4: you could be. 93 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: Can't remember a couple of shows ago when we were 94 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: talking about feeling the strain that some of the losses 95 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: had put on this ross, Like you were having starters 96 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: being asked to play starring roles and reserves being asked 97 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: to play starting reps and it just wasn't working. And 98 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: then you have Darius Williams come back, I would say, 99 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: on defense, but then Pooka and Cooper come back, and 100 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: it's like everything slotted back into place and it felt right. 101 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: It felt more like the design I was having a 102 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: pregame conversation with someone near and dear to the show 103 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 3: about whether this person should put Pokinakua into his fantasy 104 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: football lineup right a lot of people were dealing. 105 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: With everyone else. 106 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 3: I was like, maybe, but you know who you should 107 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: probably play as a surprise starters to Marcus Robinson tonight 108 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: because that guy is going back to where he was 109 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: in December of last year. Why because he's meant to 110 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: kill it on the backside of progressions And when your 111 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: eyes are here as a defense on Cooper one, Pooka two, 112 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: or vice versa, then you see Harrison Smith getting worked 113 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: over by DeMarcus Robinson in a drop eight situation in 114 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: the red zone. Like those things clearly could not and 115 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: were not ha happening as recently as two weeks ago. 116 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: Well, and it really does feel like there was a 117 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: trickling down effect, right And I took a couple notes 118 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: down in notables because immediately with what I called it, 119 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: Cooper Naku or Puka Cup, whatever you want to say, 120 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: in the combination of the two. But the run blocking 121 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: was immediately felt. Pooka run blocking grade of eighty. DeMarcus Robinson. 122 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: You mentioned what he was able to do, that was 123 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: only three targets, he had two catches. Obviously, that explosive 124 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: touchdown the longest touchdown for the Los Angeles Rams this season. 125 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: And then you also think about what they were able 126 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: to do with the offensive line, because it all starts 127 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: with the offensive production. They were dropping guys back into 128 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 2: coverage and it completely changed the game. It was impressive 129 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: the Vikings in terms of their blitz rate down ten 130 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: percent from what they were doing this season. What did 131 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: you see from the offensive line, especially against the Vikings, 132 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: because it really was a full trickle down effect. 133 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 4: Well, one, when you're playing in the Minnesota Vikings, if 134 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: you can get run game going all of a sudden, 135 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 4: they can't do these exotic blitzes and put guys on 136 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 4: the ball and do all that, and the Rams were 137 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 4: running at a great clip. I mean they were getting five, 138 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 4: six seven yards to start that game, which was like, 139 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 4: oh wow, okay, this is gonna be an interesting game. 140 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 4: But we always talk about it when when Cooper Cup 141 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 4: and Pukinaku insert on those safeties or they crack a 142 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 4: safety or whatever may be, that takes football out of 143 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 4: those guys, and then that safety now is looking at 144 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: the running game expecting, you know, this receiver to crack him. 145 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden, the receiver runs a route 146 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 4: and breaks out. And I thought what uh JB said 147 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 4: best was the offensive line has. 148 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 5: Played lights out. 149 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 4: And you talked about DeMarcus Robinson on the backside of 150 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: those progressions, Well how. 151 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 5: Does he get there? Right? 152 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 4: You have to you have to be able to attack 153 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 4: that zero coverage blitz. You have to have answers for 154 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: all those things. And then when you get those answers, 155 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: they drop back in coverage and now your line holds up. 156 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 4: And I thought, Bolimmer's done a great job since he's 157 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 4: been in But then also, uh, the kid that went 158 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 4: to the other school, I don't want to say the 159 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 4: school's name. Yeah, I don't want to say the other 160 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 4: school's name. He's playing lights out right. He Oh, he's 161 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: took for a guy to come in undrafted to He 162 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 4: had one holding penalty, but I'm okay with that, and like, 163 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 4: you haven't given up a sack. 164 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 5: You're doing a great job. 165 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 4: There was some stuff in the Running Game where you 166 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 4: saw him struggle a little bit, but that's to happen 167 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: right again, to come in as an undrafted free agent, 168 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: to go out there and play like this. 169 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 5: They're playing really well. 170 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: Let me ask you something. If you were Sean mcvayh 171 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: right now and I injected you a true serm okay, 172 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 3: And I was like, how many plays did you run 173 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: against the Vikings that were on your play sheet week 174 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: one in Detroit? Remember how we talked about like at 175 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: halftime in Detroit, he could have ceremonially lit that thing 176 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: on fire because it didn't apply anymore. I think about 177 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: Puca's first catch, he drops the first one, they go 178 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: right back to him, and yes, the Running game was effective, 179 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: but the screen game is an extension of that running game, 180 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: and it's been sorely lacking. But they motion cooper in 181 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: orbit to quads right and throw a one player screen 182 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: out to Puka and Alaric Jackson gets that block, it 183 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 3: goes for thirteen and boom, you're off and running again. 184 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: That is simply not a play that you can run, 185 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: even as recently as the Sunday prior against the Raiders. 186 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: There's just no reason to. You don't have the guys, 187 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: it doesn't work. But Cooper draws those eyes and you 188 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: got your Clydesdale out there, who can catch him run 189 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: for thirteen? Like that play, to me, I'm guessing was 190 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: not a three day install. That was a play that 191 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: they put in during the spring. Yeah, during training camp 192 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: in the Detroit Lions game plan, and all of a sudden, 193 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: shown's like, oh, I've got this laundry list of plays 194 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: that i can run again because this is how we 195 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: built it for six months. 196 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 5: Well think about this too. 197 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 4: Pookinakoup allows your screen game to come open because he's 198 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 4: bigger than every running back that you have if you 199 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 4: think about it, right, he's the biggest running back you have. 200 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 5: On your roster. 201 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: So the screen game from a receiver standpoint, you throw 202 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 4: that quick screen out there, he's one on one with 203 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 4: a safety. Harrison Smith does want to tackle Pooka Nakoua. 204 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: Then you run back with the play action screen back 205 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 4: to him where he has two or three guys in front, 206 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 4: and you watch how guys are like trying to like, 207 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 4: I just don't want to get ran over, but I 208 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 4: want to be in position to make the playoff. I 209 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 4: have to again having it. I'm gonna say a name 210 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: is old David Boss. You remember Dave Boston from the Chargers. 211 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 4: He's like a two hundred and forty pound receiver. Some 212 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 4: people say sixty receivers. Dbs don't want to tackle that 213 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 4: all the time. And when you have right, when you 214 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 4: have the ability to throw screens with guys in front, 215 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 4: with a bigger tie size receiver that's running on corners 216 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 4: and safeties, that's gonna wear down guys. 217 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: There's just a swagger in all three phases that they 218 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: played with against the Vikings that to me screamed the 219 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: players want to take this season and in turn, this 220 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 3: era as far as they possibly can, which was refreshing. 221 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: It was exhilarating the feel. And why not because when 222 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: Stafford and kyn and Cupp and Pook are all together, 223 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: they legitimately have been the best offense in the National 224 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: Football League. Now you could argue that Detroit is gaining 225 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: ground and taking over that title, and that's fine. But 226 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 3: it's cool because the same pundits who left the Rams 227 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: for dead at their bye are now saying, you know what, 228 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 3: they might be the most likely to challenge Detroit in 229 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: the end coming out of the NFC, And the truth 230 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: is probably somewhere in between, but it's going to be 231 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 3: a lot of fun to find out. 232 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: The Rams are now nine to one in all games 233 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: played after the buy from a combination of both twenty 234 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: twenty three and twenty twenty four, and it is insane. 235 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: JB. 236 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: We were discussing this a little bit off camera as well, 237 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: but just the immense pressure going into this game and 238 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: consideration to Cooper Cup and the conversations that were swirling 239 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: around him. I mean, this could really change and be 240 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: an inflection point for this franchise in terms of the 241 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 2: offensive production for the rest of this season. The conversation 242 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 2: has shifted now, has it not. 243 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: I mean you could probably answer that better having been 244 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: in those locker rooms. If you're playing for each other, 245 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: if you're playing for someone's future with your franchise, did 246 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 3: you feel that the other night. 247 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 4: I you know, it's always tough, like when when you 248 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 4: hear about one of your better players being on the 249 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 4: trade block. See, this is completely different than when I 250 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 4: used to like social media has put this thing out 251 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: because you would hear rumors, but like literally so all 252 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 4: of social media going up to the Vikings game was 253 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 4: you know, Stafford is going to go on the plane 254 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 4: with the Vikings and if they lose this and. 255 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 5: Cup is going to Pittsburgh, and so. 256 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 4: As a team one, as a coach, you have to 257 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 4: knock those down and say that's not true, or you 258 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 4: have to say, you know, you have to be honest 259 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 4: with your players. But I felt, like I said, like 260 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 4: the energy felt like no, you're with us, Like we're 261 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: not letting you go anywhere else. We're gonna come back here. 262 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: We're gonna make plays, We're gonna find a way to win. 263 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 4: I mean, just you can see the effort and the 264 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 4: energy on. 265 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 5: Special teams was insane. Some of those punts, right, like. 266 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 4: All those different things were big time plays. And then 267 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 4: again the blocking by the receivers and to two out 268 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 4: well coming in and making a big time play, as 269 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 4: we talked about before, like it's just guys are starting 270 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: to get into their spots and when you have that, 271 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: you can open up your offense. And everyone was more 272 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: excited about it. And I think, you know, this team 273 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: is closer than a lot a lot of people believe 274 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 4: outside of here. Because if I'm if your selfish too 275 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 4: too out, was gonna be like, well, why am I not? 276 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 4: I've been doing all this work. I need to get 277 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 4: back in. He was like, oh, okay, this is my op. 278 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 4: Uh catch right, Oh this is my op. I bleue 279 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 4: by them. I'm wide open, right. 280 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: But I think Lafleur and Sean and others did a 281 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: great job platooning personnel in a way that they haven't 282 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 3: for the last seven and a half years. And I'm 283 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 3: sure some of that was to make sure there's tread 284 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: on Poka and Cooper's tires. But I like the fact 285 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: that they got in twelve and thirteen sometimes. I like 286 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: the fact that they use to to strategically, and Tyler 287 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: Johnson as well, like I think that that play is 288 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: moving forward. I think ten and seventeen are going to 289 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: take more and more. 290 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: I don't think they need to, though, to be honest, 291 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I felt like they came out and was it. 292 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: It was Tyler Johnson and two to atwell or Tyler 293 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 4: Johnson and DeMarcus Robinson a ton in those twelve packages 294 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 4: and they are run run round, one run, and then 295 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 4: in the third and fourth quarter, all of a sudden, 296 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: here comes to play action pass off of it. Right, 297 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 4: So they set you up, They baited you to believe, hey, 298 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 4: when these two receivers are in, we're doing these things. 299 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 4: That's coaching, right, But it also gives your guys a 300 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 4: break too. I don't need you out there all the time, 301 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: but that's because what we talked about over the last 302 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 4: couple week, those guys have earned the right to be 303 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: out there to play in both the running game and 304 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: the passing game. 305 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the way to beat the Vikings is 306 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: either with your fastball you got to be able to 307 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: throw one hundred past them, or so many changeups that 308 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 3: they just couldn't really get a grasp on what you 309 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: were trying to do, like normally when you huddle and 310 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: they can lock and load like that can be a 311 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 3: dangerous formula. But it felt like Minnesota was kind of 312 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: playing on its heels, not just because they're down in distance, 313 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 3: but because of all those changes but look, the Rams 314 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 3: got a scheduling gift, right. They played two games in 315 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: basically three weeks, right, I think it's twenty seven days, 316 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: and it saved their season, it saved their roster, it's 317 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: saved their season, or at least the chance to save 318 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 3: their season. I think the moment we have to embrace 319 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 3: right now is this week is the last time that 320 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 3: you're going to benefit from that. So you got to 321 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: go cash it in. The extra rest, the extra preparation. 322 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 3: You got to go three for three, get a winning streak, 323 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: maybe throw some dirt on Seattle, which we'll talk about 324 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 3: because the next ten weeks are going to be a 325 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: gauntlet and you're not going to have that to fall 326 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: back on. 327 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. I like the next ten weeks, so I like 328 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 5: kind of where they sit. 329 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: I'm just saying rest, no rest. 330 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 4: But you know what the best thing about no rest 331 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 4: is is two things. One you can get in a 332 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 4: rhythm and get hot, and two you have the ability 333 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 4: now to kind of start to employ like Blake Krum, 334 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: get him going. You can get some other guys going, 335 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 4: which I think will help in the long run. 336 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's trust in that depth. You're right. 337 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: I was going to say and that depth was created 338 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: at the beginning of this season. I want to go 339 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: through at least one more. Let's revel a little bit longer. 340 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: What would you say was the most impactful moment of 341 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: this week's game against Minnesota and JB. 342 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: I think you may have mentioned. 343 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: Yours already, but just something that in your eyes either 344 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: was impactful or told the story. 345 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 5: It's the throw with the last drive. 346 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 4: And I think it was like third and ten and 347 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 4: it was like, man, do we run the ball, make 348 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 4: him burn the timeout. 349 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 5: Or do you go for the throat? 350 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 4: And Sean calling that play where it was like a 351 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 4: fake screen to Puka and Cooper Cup runs up the 352 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 4: sidelines and they had and you throw it and you 353 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: make a play like that's the old Rams that we remember. 354 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: They don't, we don't they're not conservative, and that, to me, 355 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 4: it reminded me of what we've been accusin to for 356 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 4: so long, so many times I remember it is it 357 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: brought me back to this play, which is is gonna 358 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 4: blow your mind. But Houston at the Coliseum backed up 359 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 4: and they throw a post that goes like ninety eight 360 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: yards or whatever it was golf the woods, like there's 361 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 4: no way you call that play down there. But you're 362 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 4: so confident in what you're doing and what you believe. 363 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: You're like, this is, this is We're gonna win this game. 364 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 4: This's gonna remind me of the Super Bowl win where 365 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: he tells Matthew like, this is this is your touchdown. 366 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 5: Play to win the Super Bowl. Throw the ball to 367 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 5: cup right, Like those are. When you're playing like that 368 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 5: and that confidence, that's tough to be. 369 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: I would say that I give you. Yeah. Sean mentioned 370 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: this on Monday, and I think it really hit me 371 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: how impactful it was. It happened so quickly and dawn 372 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 3: on me in real time. But when Justin Jefferson makes 373 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: that incredible catch against like sticky Darius Williams coverage and 374 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: they want to go quickly and punch it in there 375 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: in an angle situation, Darius rallies for a tackle for 376 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: loss immediately on that next play, and it's a four 377 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: point play. It's a four point tackle because instead of 378 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: a touchdown off the back of that, they settle for 379 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 3: a field goal. So that was one. And then if 380 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 3: I'm if I'm being a little cheeky, I would say 381 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: that the play that sticks with me is the referees 382 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: clearly missed an obvious face mask, and if they throw 383 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: that flag, the game ends differently. And of course I'm 384 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: talking about Kyrien Williams having his face hold with less 385 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: than two minutes to go, because if that's a free 386 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: first down, it's victory formation, it's game over. 387 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 5: And you know, you know I've been fighting that Quin city. 388 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 5: You know I've been fighting forever. 389 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 4: They Oh, listen, they missed two calls on that, on 390 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 4: that in that sequence. 391 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 5: We're not gonna get We're not gonna go a little. 392 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 5: The game is the game, all right. 393 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: Well, I have a really cool seat in the house, 394 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: and as I'm sitting on the field, I actually got 395 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: a chance to listen to you guys call in the game, 396 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: and it. 397 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: Is no, it's one of the greatest things. 398 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: It's so enjoyable, and your call to the Cooper Cup 399 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: touchdown is one that will stick with me. 400 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: And I loved it. 401 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: The ever elusive Matthew Stafford long Live nine and time, 402 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: and I think it was probably one of the best 403 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: calls just considering what Cooper Cup had kind of dealt 404 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 2: with that whole week leading up to it. He had 405 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: his family on the field, the return He's playing alongside 406 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: Pooka the echoes of Coop on the touchdown like there 407 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: was under under the lights of Sofi Stadium in primetime. 408 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 3: Here comes Cup in motion to balance it out to 409 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: you by two, Stafford has his nap four man rush 410 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 3: pressure in his face, goes out the left side, ducks 411 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: the rush foot for the end zone. 412 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 4: Cut cut Cooper Cup from Nephew Stafford. 413 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 3: What prime time edition. 414 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 5: Of nine and dime. 415 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 3: Oh, the ever elusive Matthew Stafford ducking the rush of 416 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: the Vikings and finding his favorite targets. Welcome back Cooper Cup. Touchdown, La. 417 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: That is a moment that I will not forget, and 418 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: especially with your guys' voices in the background. 419 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 3: Well, look, if things go well this week and for 420 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: the rest of the season, he's gonna be the clear 421 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: cut third best receiver in Rams franchise history. Like catches touchdowns, 422 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: it's gonna be the should be two Hall of Famers 423 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: Isaac Tory, hopefully sooner rather than later in Cooper and 424 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: that feels appropriate. 425 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. All Right, guys, we 426 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: have to talk a little bit about rookie standouts. You 427 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 2: mentioned a couple of them, already in bo Limmer, but 428 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: let's dig in Jared Verse. You had an incredible conversation 429 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: with him this week. 430 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 3: What a character. 431 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: His micd up was phenomenal. 432 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: He's gone viral and to that point, my mother is 433 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: the one that sent it to me. 434 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: Mom's ever. 435 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, this guy is hilarious, so fun. I 436 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: think we need T shirts that just read I'm in 437 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: your head or a hat. I'm not sure which, But 438 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 2: how fun has that got to watch? 439 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 4: Well, it's funny because you know when you're watching the 440 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 4: game and we're calling it, I'm like they're double teaming 441 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 4: them every play and he's getting like knocked down and 442 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 4: he gets up, he's barking. I can kind of figure 443 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 4: out what he's saying, like you need two or three 444 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: to block me? You need two or three to block me? 445 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 4: And then to hear him say that on the micd 446 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 4: up was like, oh yeah, he just talks. But I 447 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 4: remember OTA's JB. We were sitting out there and and 448 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 4: he was going at it, and he was going at 449 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 4: it with one of the tight ends, and like Sean 450 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 4: was like, hey, you gotta calm down, and I was like. 451 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 5: That's who he is. 452 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 4: You gotta let him play like and it's shown that 453 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 4: that mindset and the trash talk is what gets him 454 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 4: going more and more. And then when he got this 455 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 4: act to do, the skull channel was even better. Right, 456 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 4: Like he's just he's a troll and you love that 457 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 4: about him. 458 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you can tell the story of the 459 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 3: Rams turnaround on the defensive side of the ball almost 460 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 3: threw Jared as a proxy for the entire defense. The 461 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: whole first month we were like, Oh, he's getting pressures, 462 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: but gosh, he's missing so many opportunities. I think it 463 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 3: was eleven mistackles in the rams first four games, many 464 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: of which could have been like game changing sacks. One 465 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 3: since one mistackle since for Jared Verse. The other thing 466 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: is he is the only first rounder playing on that 467 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: entire defense. The Rams played twenty guys on defense against 468 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 3: the Vikings. I broke it down this way. Jared is 469 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: the only first rounder. Six others were Day two selections 470 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: either second or third, five were Day three picks, eight 471 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 3: were college free agents. Eight undrafted's contributed to that win 472 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 3: on defense. And there's only more coming for players like 473 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: Omar Spates and Jalen McCullough and Josh Wallace. Because they're 474 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 3: earning it, right, Because they're earning it, and so early 475 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 3: in this season we're like, hey, you got to give 476 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: this defense time. Like the Rams are spending the least 477 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 3: amount of resources of any team in the National Football 478 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 3: League on that side of the ball. Well, now all 479 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: of a sudden, it's like, if they're going to be 480 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: doing this, the ceiling for this twenty before a group 481 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 3: gets higher and higher. 482 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 4: Well, it was funny, Like you said, I think everyone 483 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 4: was kind of like, all right, we'll see what this 484 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 4: defense can do. 485 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 5: But they've been the ones that have been doing everything. 486 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at Detroit, if you go 487 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 4: back to Detroit, they just got tired in that overtime game. 488 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 4: In that overtime, like they were just worn down, but 489 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 4: they were getting after Detroit. I mean, they were the 490 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 4: most physical team during that side of the ball. Like 491 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 4: they were way more physical than Detroit's defense, more physical 492 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 4: than the Detroit's offense in those four quarters. And so 493 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 4: that's what we saw in preseason, and this carried over throughout, 494 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 4: like they dominated a lot of teams that you wouldn't expect. 495 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: I love this matchup this week too, because Charles Cross 496 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 3: at left tackle I think is the best part of 497 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: Seattle's offensive line, and that's normally where Jared aligns. So 498 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 3: a Verse goes up against him, that'll be a great 499 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 3: battle to watch. If they flip Jared and Byron, that'll 500 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,239 Speaker 3: be telling. And if not, then this feels like an 501 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: Agent zero go get yours and maybe some Kobe turn 502 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 3: or two, because the right side of the Seahawks offensive 503 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: line is not as strong as middle to left. 504 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 2: And it's crest to think Verse Turner Young getting a 505 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 2: half sacks combined the season three three sack performance though 506 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: against Minnesota this week. 507 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 3: Well, I think we should talk about that being the constant, 508 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 3: like the pass rush, the Young pass rush, and what 509 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 3: that means for this season and beyond. 510 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 4: If you put it this way, you have four guys 511 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 4: that can get after the quarterback right, and I think 512 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 4: Fist doesn't get enough credit for his penetration and getting 513 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 4: Donald off his spot right like. 514 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 3: He through a back injury. 515 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like he's up there. Donald has to slide. 516 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: When you slide, now you're a second late to throw 517 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 4: the ball. You're allowing the covers to kind of settle 518 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 4: in a little bit more, and then you get the 519 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 4: other guys coming out of everywhere. 520 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 5: It seems like it was like dudes coming all over 521 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 5: the place. And to me, I thought Kobe. 522 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 4: Turner last year learned a ton right and I thought 523 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 4: he played exceptionally well. 524 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 5: But this year you're seeing he's the one taking all 525 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 5: the double teams. 526 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 4: He's the one doing all the dirty work, where last 527 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 4: year was Donald that was getting all the you know, 528 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 4: and he's still finding ways to get to the quarterback, 529 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 4: which is allowing all these young guys to go out 530 00:22:59,080 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: and make plays. 531 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 3: I also think we have every right to believe the 532 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: best is yet to come. And here's why is because 533 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: until two weeks ago, the Rams' largest lead in the 534 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: entire season was six points. These last two games, their 535 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 3: last two wins, we've seen the Rams play with multi score, 536 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: double digit leads, however you want to frame it. If 537 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: this defense gets a chance to pin their ears back 538 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: to play true Russian coverage, I think there's something going 539 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 3: on there. And I hesitate to even say this because 540 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 3: I have no interest in talking about twenty twenty five yet, 541 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 3: except in one regard. I think the biggest need or 542 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 3: opportunity for this team going into next year is a 543 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 3: top tier corner. Yeah, wrong, Like, imagine what Jalen Ramsey 544 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: would do to this pass rush over the next couple 545 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: of years while they're still on rookie contracts, et cetera. 546 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: And then I got to thinking, well, what if everything 547 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 3: goes perfectly this weekend and you beat the brakes off 548 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: the Seahawks, and Chicago goes and knocks off Arizona and 549 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 3: you moved to number one? Do you want to finish 550 00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: that sentence for me? 551 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 552 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: Why wait? 553 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: Right? 554 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 5: Ohthough, now you're gonna get somebody? Why wait? 555 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: You have until November fifth. 556 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 5: Who do you go get though? Who's a biling Yeah? 557 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 5: And that's the question. 558 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 3: It takes two to go. I get it. 559 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 5: But I mean you, this is the thing I in NFC. 560 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 4: I don't really see you win against the best in 561 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 4: the NFC already and justin Jefferson, that's the best receiver 562 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 4: that you're gonna see, right, And he made a couple 563 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 4: of plays, but he had to be the best to 564 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 4: make those plays. I think you have what you need here. 565 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 4: I don't think you need to go get a top 566 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 4: tier guy because that's not the way this defense is played. 567 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 4: Like in the past, you had Jayalen Ramsey because Aaron 568 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 4: Donald was getting pressuring. You wanted to shut one side 569 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 4: the field down and run zone cover the other side. 570 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 3: You don't want to do that for the second half 571 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 3: of this year and all of next year and all 572 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 3: of twenty six. 573 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 5: I just don't think. I don't think that's what the 574 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 5: way this defense is built. 575 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 4: That's how I think they're building more of a team defense, 576 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 4: Like everyone plays a role. We don't have one guy 577 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 4: that's covering Julio Jones the whole time like they did. 578 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 4: You know, like when Wade Phillips, it was like you 579 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 4: got Julio Jones were playing man the man. That's not 580 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 4: how they play. They're more of a schematic. They brought 581 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago. They got Kobe Durant to 582 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 4: hit the like, that's a different type of thing that 583 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 4: we've seen from the Rams. 584 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 2: So would you go out and get a different position 585 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: if they pick it up and move from four to one. 586 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 5: I would, but I know they wouldn't. 587 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 4: I think off ball linebackers a position that you have 588 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 4: to address eventually. I don't know where you address it, 589 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 4: you address it now or later, But I think off 590 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 4: ball linebackers a position that you have to address. I 591 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 4: believe you still have the pieces because again John Johnson 592 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 4: comes back right. That's another addition to safety that that 593 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 4: helps you. Like I said, they have a it's a 594 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 4: it's an advantage that have a no name defense, if 595 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 4: that makes sense. It's an advantage because they can't key 596 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 4: on one guy. Guys are moving all over the place. 597 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,479 Speaker 4: And so I believe off ball linebackers position they need 598 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 4: to address either in the draft and not high, but 599 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 4: somewhere to get those you know, to fix those pieces. 600 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 5: Up a little bit. 601 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 4: That make that is that Okay is coming Omar, Hey, listen, 602 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 4: get out the way because he was hidden. 603 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 5: He made some big tackles in that game. And I 604 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 5: love the wire reference. I watched that again. 605 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 2: Ohmar, Well, let's dig into the NFC West a bit 606 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: more because we've already laid it out just a little 607 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: bit for you. But there is a chance this week 608 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: that we could go from four to one. Arizona loses 609 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 2: to the Bears potentially in Week nine, and the winner 610 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: of this between Los Angeles and Seattle will then move 611 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: up into first place. We are the only division the 612 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: NFC West that is decided right now by just one game, 613 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: and obviously us coming off the buy, everyone else sitting 614 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 2: at four and for us at three and four. You 615 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 2: mentioned it too. We've faced the NFC North at this point. 616 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: The remaining schedule for the other teams in the NFC 617 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: West is not as easy JB. 618 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think the forty nine ers are 619 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: going to come back from this bio with a vengeance. 620 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 3: Are you laughing at me or are you agreeing? 621 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 4: I've agreed, okay, because they are not happy right now. 622 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 5: We have a lot going on over there. 623 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they linked into that buy and getting that 624 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 3: win over Dallas and surviving that I think sets them 625 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 3: up for second as although I will say after this buy, 626 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 3: their next five opponents between now and Thursday Night Football 627 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 3: against the Rams are all against teams at are above 628 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 3: five hundred, and they continue to have a rest disadvantage 629 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 3: after this buy in terms of playing teams with extra rest. 630 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 3: The Cardinals, though, despite what I may have said last week, 631 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: are quickly becoming a problem. Kyler Murray is playing really well. 632 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: Their schedule is actually favorable. And how about their four wins, 633 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 3: three game winning field goals and a blowout of the Rams. 634 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 3: I would say this, if you don't have holiday plans, 635 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: maybe consider grabbing a ticket to Week seventeen at sofar 636 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 3: promo code treat I think it is at the Rams 637 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: dot com because that is shaping up to be a 638 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 3: pretty consequential game. 639 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 5: No, I agree. 640 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 4: I think when you look at it the air, when 641 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 4: the Cardinals is shocked to everyone, I mean there's always 642 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 4: a team that goes from worse to first. I think 643 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 4: the Cardinals are kind of playing thirteen Personnel, mixing Personnel's 644 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 4: version with the Rams of done, they found something right 645 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: and then Kyler, I mean watching that Dolphins game, there's 646 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 4: some of the pass he threw to Marvin like over 647 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey right, like they're attacking guys and they're kind 648 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 4: of hitting their stride. To me with the Rams is 649 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 4: when you're playing the Seattle Seahawks one, they have their 650 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 4: own issues, right, Guys are fighting on the sideline. They 651 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 4: got other stuff going on over there. They got to 652 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 4: figure out. And they're just coming off of Shelacken like 653 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: Buffalo was not. They're not playing any games. So if 654 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 4: you're going up there, you have to go up to 655 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 4: understand that they're gonna They're they're trying to get some 656 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 4: confidence back and trying to get their swagger back, and 657 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 4: they're gonna throw a lot at you, but I just 658 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 4: don't know if they have the pieces defensively to handle 659 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 4: what the Rams are gonna do. 660 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 3: Last week, and a wise man quoted another wise man 661 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: by saying, you only get one shot, miss your chance 662 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: to play. And that's kind of what I feel like. 663 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: This weekend is for the for the Rams because put 664 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 3: let's put ourselves in the Seahawks shoes here, right, They've 665 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 3: lost four out of five, they've lost three in a 666 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: row on their home field, that got the open date 667 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: next week on the other side of the bye is 668 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: a trip to San Francisco. In fact, five of their 669 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 3: remaining eight after this week are on the road. So 670 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: that's why I feel like this is a separation Sunday 671 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 3: opportunity to kind of thin out the herd in the 672 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: NFC West, because if you send a message this weekend, 673 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: then maybe Seattle realizes, you know what this this is 674 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: in our year. Conversely, if you let them kind of 675 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: do what San Francisco just did, which is limp into 676 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: the bye with a win and a winning record, then 677 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: suddenly the Seahawks are probably going to be at Sofi 678 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: Stadium in Week eighteen with at least a real playoff scenario, 679 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: if not, like playing for bigger steaks. 680 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: So to your point, this is a huge, huge matchup, 681 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: and it actually makes me think as we dive into 682 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: this one, the Week one win at Seattle last year, 683 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: and I know, JV you want to talk about this, 684 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 2: but it's wild to think that was the season opener 685 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: for the Los Angeles Rams. 686 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: We were still figuring. 687 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: Out who Puka was, who Kyne was, who Kobe was, 688 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: and all this Saiden, It's been a year and they 689 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 2: are now household names. When you think back to that matchup, JB, 690 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: what are your first thoughts. 691 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 3: I'm sure Maurice predicted it, but nobody else did run the. 692 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 5: Ball that was That was a good one. 693 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 4: I I they ran the ball forty times that game, right, 694 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 4: It was like unpressing what we were used to. And 695 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 4: I think that's what you have to go up there 696 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 4: and do whatever they think you're gonna do, you have 697 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 4: to do the opposite. 698 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like the premise of our trailer 699 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 3: this week is when they landed in Seattle last year. 700 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 3: Kyron Williams had not scored an NFL touchdown since he's 701 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 3: scored more touchdowns than anyone else in the sport, and 702 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 3: he's taken five weeks off. Puka and Akua went from 703 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 3: a you know, an unknown to a household name. And 704 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 3: this time they're bringing the next wave with them, right, 705 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 3: They're bringing the fifth, They're bringing the verse. How about 706 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: the fact that Cooper Cup has only played eighteen snaps 707 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 3: against the Seahawks in the two years since his triple crowncy. Yeah, 708 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 3: I knew that, I felt that, I lived that, but 709 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: it hadn't really hit home that he's basically been sidelined 710 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 3: for all four of the most recent Seahawks games. 711 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 712 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 4: And then let's not forget Darius Williams pick six a 713 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 4: couple of years ago. Like he's he plays exceptionally well 714 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 4: up there. Again, I think the Rams. It goes back 715 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 4: to I don't I forget the year. But when the 716 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 4: Rams went up there and blew out the Seahawks se Gurley. 717 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 3: They don't officially clinch it. They had to wait till Tennessee. 718 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 3: But that was when you knew that they had taken 719 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 3: the torch. 720 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 4: And from that point forward, it's always kind of been 721 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 4: like their their their their second home or not. 722 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 5: One said that like they're safe haven, Like they can 723 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 5: go up there and get right. 724 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 4: And they've always kind of gotten right against the Seahawks, 725 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 4: and it was the Seahawks and the Cardinals that they've 726 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 4: they've had some chances. Well, this is a chance for 727 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 4: you to go up there and stay right right. You 728 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 4: have two games, you're hot, You're you're probably the most 729 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,719 Speaker 4: balanced offense that I've seen in the NFL, where like 730 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 4: you're throwing the and running the ball at an efficient clip. 731 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 4: If you look at the Baltimore Ravens, they score a 732 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 4: lot of points, but they're not as efficient per play, 733 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 4: if that makes sense. Like they'll get into third and 734 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: long and then Lamar will make a crazy play, or 735 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 4: they'll be in second and five and darre Hear to 736 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 4: break off a eighty yard or play. But the Rams 737 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 4: per play, they're able to be fishing. 738 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 5: I think that's what they have to go up there 739 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 5: and do. 740 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: We must all be mine melding together because I know 741 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: the next matchup that we want to talk about is 742 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: a look back to Week fourteen. 743 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: It was perfect the overtimes. 744 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 3: Think a career in television. 745 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: Oh to the Baltimore Ravens. 746 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: Last year we put up thirty one points and over 747 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: four hundred yards of offense against Mike McDonald led defense, 748 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 2: obviously now the head coach for the Seattle Seahawks. And 749 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: by the way, that is also the only loss that 750 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 2: the Rams have had in two years after the buye. 751 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: So what do you think Sean McVay is gonna be 752 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 2: able to die out up against. 753 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 3: This That was the last game Karen didn't score a touchdown. 754 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: By the way, that's also true. 755 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: All right, this is like red meat to mjd right here, 756 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 3: we got we got to give him this opportunity. Put 757 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 3: it on a t for them. Remember they ran at 758 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 3: nine straight I wasn't gonna tell the rest of this story. 759 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, go ahead, Okay. 760 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 3: They stalled out in the red zone, but remember they 761 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 3: ran at nine straight times. They rush for one on 762 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 3: the day, more than all but one Raven's opponent last season. 763 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 3: So Kirn's been unstoppable ever since. Seattle. Maurice has allowed 764 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 3: seven rushing touchdowns since Week four. And if I remember correctly, 765 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: part of that game plan was like justin, Mattabuka fashions 766 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: himself as the next Aaron Donald, and they got the 767 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 3: linebackers and they got the pass rush. We're gonna cool 768 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,719 Speaker 3: them off. We're gonna keep Stafford out of harm's way, 769 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 3: We're gonna play into the conditions. Does this game not 770 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 3: set up similarly or am I just drawing too much 771 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 3: between like Cameron said, Mike McDonald got highed by Seattle. 772 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 4: No, No, I think it does because you have guys 773 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 4: like Byron Murphy who they drafted, who's very similar to 774 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 4: Aaron Donald, who a lot of people, even our DeMarco 775 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 4: far said, like he's the closest thing to it. When 776 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 4: you go back to that Baltimore Ravens game, they ran 777 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 4: right at Ata Bouquez, right at him, because again, that's 778 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 4: how you cool off a guy that's rushing the passer 779 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 4: at a high level. 780 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 5: You run at him. 781 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 4: Now, to me, if you're the Rams, you go in 782 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 4: you're saying, look, we have to go right at this 783 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 4: defense again, and like everything, it kind of allows our 784 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 4: offense to be the best. We can run the ball 785 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 4: at a like getting It doesn't have to be big gangs, 786 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 4: but four yards. If you get four yards, you get 787 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 4: four yards, you keep getting four then all of a 788 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 4: sudden you have a play action pass or you have 789 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 4: a quick pass out to the flat it just puts 790 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 4: so much stress on the defense. But you have to 791 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 4: attack them the middle of their defense because that's where 792 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 4: they pride themselves off. 793 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 3: And cooper ate that night, and so did Pooka and 794 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,959 Speaker 3: Davis Allen, like there were other stars in that game. 795 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 3: But just in terms of the structure of the premise. 796 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 3: And it's not just Biron Murphy, who, by the way, 797 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 3: like a because he's a rookie, because he was taking 798 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 3: a few picks ahead of herse like he bears mentioning here. 799 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 3: And I think this is a big game for the 800 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 3: the inexperienced guys up the middle that you mentioned earlier, 801 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 3: Limmer and die Ditsch, Like I could give you Dtish 802 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,959 Speaker 3: just pff grade, or we could talk about the fact 803 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 3: that he hasn't allowed pressures or but like the real 804 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 3: indication of how the Rams will feel about Dietitsch is 805 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 3: Joe Nopum is out there practicing fully this week. If 806 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 3: you're saying we're gonna go with the twenty four year 807 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 3: old undrafted playing against this front because the interior is strength, Yeah, 808 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 3: and look out for Ernest Jones too, because we we 809 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 3: know he likes to play on both sides of scrimmage. 810 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I forgot it's a revenge game and 811 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 4: we haven't revenge game. Revenge game. They found a way back. Look, 812 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 4: you know, Sean knows Ernest Jones. Sean understands how to 813 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 4: attack this this these there's personnel pieces right, How to 814 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 4: attack Woolan, how to attack their other corner from Illinois 815 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 4: whose name slipped my mind, but spoon, Spoon, Yeah, with 816 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 4: this one. How to attack those guys. But the most 817 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 4: important thing is going to be that front. Like we 818 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 4: talked about, how do you are you comfortable with the 819 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 4: guys that are there now or do you have to 820 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 4: add pieces there? And like I said, the healthier the 821 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 4: Rams get to get to that offensive line that you 822 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 4: had projected on your depth chart early in the season, 823 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be concerned. But this team here in front, 824 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 4: they have some guys. Seahawks have some guys that can 825 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 4: get to the quarterback in. 826 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 3: The middle of the dach Aaron Reid, Leonard Williams, a 827 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: couple other number names that I wrote down. 828 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 2: There's yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting from that side 829 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 2: of the ball. But I'm also curious too, because there's 830 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: a big question mark that could really change the complexion 831 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 2: of this matchup. And a guy's name is DK Metcalf. 832 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: He was out last week. We saw what happened with 833 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 2: their not just explosive plays, but also their run game 834 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 2: faltered significantly against the Bills. There's potential he's coming back 835 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 2: in this matchup, he's gonna play. 836 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: How is that going to change the game? And so 837 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: what's the point of reference. 838 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 2: Is it against the Falcons or their matchup against the 839 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: Falcons or is it so much against the Bills. 840 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 4: I think this is where Jaylen Ramsey was like most 841 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 4: important because he canceled him out right, Like this is 842 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 4: where you have that top tier corner to cancel a 843 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 4: guy like that out. And it is a little nerve 844 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 4: racking to have DK out there, because again, what he 845 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 4: did against Atlanta, he's what he's done this whole season. 846 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 5: He's kind of been their guy. 847 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 4: But the pressure is what's gonna change everything, Right, Like 848 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 4: if Geno Smith can sit back in the pocket, just 849 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 4: throw the ball and it's seven on seven, he'll he'll 850 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 4: tear you up. But what the Bills were able to do, 851 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 4: they got pressure from everywhere and he couldn't sit in 852 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 4: the pocket. He couldn't do all the things that he 853 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 4: wanted to do and have all the time to throw 854 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 4: regards with DK was out there or not, so to me, 855 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 4: it's it's gonna be on that front that we talked 856 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 4: about early in the show is can you get pressure 857 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 4: on Gino to get him to get off his first 858 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 4: read quickly? Can you throw some different coverages at him 859 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 4: so that he has to pump fake to let those 860 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 4: guys get to It's gonna be more of a chess 861 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 4: match this game than it's ever been, just because they're 862 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 4: gonna run this high flying offense, these three receivers and 863 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 4: then yeah, Kenneth Walker, who can catch them all at 864 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 4: the backfield, who's having a heck of a year right now. 865 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 5: I just I think it relies on that d line. 866 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 5: If that d lin can get to Gino, I think 867 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 5: you're fine. 868 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 3: It's still disputed whether Gino was the one who said, omg, 869 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 3: where Aaron Donalds coming at him? He said it, but 870 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 3: we know Aaron's not gonna be there. And yet you're 871 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 3: saying there's still the pieces to make Gino Smith feel OMG. 872 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 4: If not say it, yeah, I know he's gonna feel it. 873 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 4: I think I mean that was just a unique player 874 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 4: was a great stunt that hit. But I think again, 875 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 4: if you just want him to slide and move in 876 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 4: the pocket as much as you can, He's not one 877 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 4: of those guys that, like Kyler, can slide in the pocket. 878 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 4: So I was downfield and throw the ball Gino. When 879 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 4: he slides, his eyes come down and so if you 880 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 4: can get him to move, he's gonna look to run, 881 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 4: which is gonna take obviously off the big plays on 882 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 4: the field. 883 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 3: I just love the scheduled progression. Like the Raiders win 884 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 3: was probably the best get right opportunity you'll see all season. 885 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 3: They had just traded away their best receiver, one of 886 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 3: the best receivers. Then you went toe to toe with 887 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 3: the best receiver in Jefferson last week, and now you 888 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 3: get a portfolio, a collection of receivers that I think 889 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 3: when their rider are as good as any in the league, 890 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 3: like Gino's leading this league and passing in part because 891 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 3: he has to, in part because he has JSN and 892 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 3: Tyler Lockett in DK. 893 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 2: I was just about to ask the question too, because 894 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 2: when you look at the numbers for the last we'll 895 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 2: say four games, even for Walker, they've actually been relatively 896 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 2: diminished significantly diminished. 897 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, question will have fourteen guys in the bar exactly. 898 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: That was my next question. 899 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 2: So do the numbers really tell the story, not just 900 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,479 Speaker 2: for Walker but even for this offense for Seattle. Where 901 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 2: is the cause for concern? 902 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 4: Well, again, I think when you look at Kenneth Walker 903 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 4: and what he's been able to do, they don't like 904 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 4: they don't utilize him as much as I thought they 905 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 4: would like. Against Atlanta they kind of let him go 906 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 4: and he did his thing. But when they play, if 907 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 4: you stopped their run game early, they'll abandon it quickly. 908 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 4: They will, Hey, we're got to throw the ball. And 909 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 4: so to me, Buffalo was like, we're gonna force you 910 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 4: to throw the ball, and we're gonna force you to 911 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 4: throw in a tight coverage and you don't have your 912 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 4: big receiver here to make those plays. So for us, 913 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,399 Speaker 4: I think if I look at that from a RAMS standpoint, yes, 914 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 4: stop of the run is always first, and you got to. 915 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 5: Make sure you do that. 916 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 4: But the next best thing is you gotta win your 917 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 4: one on somebody's gonna get double team and whoever's one 918 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 4: on one you gotta win. You gotta find a way 919 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 4: to win and get there. If that's Michael Hoyd. Uh 920 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 4: if that is Jonah Williams, whoever's in there, that they're 921 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 4: gonna one on one, you. 922 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 5: Have to win. 923 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 2: All right, Well that's a perfect jumping off point. Should 924 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 2: we jump into our keys to victory here? So is 925 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 2: stopping the run your key to victory or what would 926 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 2: you stop that? 927 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 4: He's like, Uh, yeah, forty we gotta get to the 928 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 4: number forty forty plus runs. 929 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 5: If you can get to forty plus. 930 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 4: Runs like you did last year in Week one, that 931 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 4: means you have control of the game, that means you 932 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 4: are and let's let's remember Phoka had one hundred plus. 933 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 5: You have what fourteen catches. 934 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 4: You're still throwing the ball to to as well. Yeah, 935 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 4: you're just you just want to get to that. You 936 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 4: want to get to those high numbers thirty five to 937 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 4: forty and run. If you can get to that, that 938 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 4: means this game is in the way you want to play. 939 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 3: It real quick too, because the untold story of that 940 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 3: win and the second half shutout is both of their 941 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 3: tackles were lost to injury in that game, so that 942 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,399 Speaker 3: that changed the protection plan and capability. And that's still 943 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 3: an open ending question for me going into this game 944 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 3: with Seattle is they've been trading off at right guard. 945 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 3: It seems like they've come to a solution, but I 946 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 3: don't know if it's a final one and then they're 947 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 3: down there starting right tackle. They've been playing a rookie 948 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 3: in that place. Whether that holds this week or whether 949 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 3: they get somebody back, it's tough to know how the 950 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 3: Seahawks are going to play this one and in turn, 951 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 3: how the Rams are going to have to win it 952 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 3: without knowing what that looks like. So still days to go. 953 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 3: But the good news is right now, the Rams injury 954 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 3: report looks much better than Seattle's. 955 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 2: That is very true. And to your point too about 956 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 2: stopping the run this or excuse me, running the ball. 957 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 2: The Seahawks are allowing the most yards per play right 958 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 2: now at six and a half and the NFL since 959 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 2: Week four, so that might be where I'm looking to 960 00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 2: the start. 961 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 3: Your key, Yeah, it's my key, she leads off, leading 962 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 3: the charge. 963 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: What's your key to victory? What do you got? JB me. 964 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in a crowdsource mind per usual, I got 965 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 3: a few. So the Ram checked a big box last week, 966 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 3: which was they scored a first quarter touchdown for the 967 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 3: first time all season. Here's my challenge this week, opening 968 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 3: drive third quarter touchdown? Please, opening drive third quarter has 969 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 3: been a problem. Three points all season on the first 970 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,479 Speaker 3: possession coming out of halftime, two turnovers, four punts. Three 971 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 3: of those were three and outs. So when I say 972 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 3: last week, defer for what kind of what I'm talking about? 973 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 3: Turnover free game. It's only happened once the Rams have 974 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 3: gotten away with it in their last couple But this 975 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,760 Speaker 3: feels like a you'd be very well served to protect 976 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 3: all of your possessions, make sure they all end in 977 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 3: the kick. 978 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 5: Isn't that what you say? 979 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 3: But here's what I settled on, because this one is 980 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 3: better for conversation, Like those two are obvious. How about 981 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 3: the key of the game being Kiren against Ernest. I've 982 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 3: already heard this week like Matthew against Ernest, which is 983 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 3: a good one. But the way the Rams play, the 984 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 3: way they run it, isn't it kind of like Kyen 985 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 3: against Ernest? And then also Jones are gonna blitz. 986 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 5: He's gonna cos that's what he's the most. 987 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 3: Dangerous, and so Kirroen stick in his face in the 988 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 3: fan and making sure that Matthew's pocket is clean, feels 989 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 3: like a good way to decide this game. 990 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 4: I wonder who used to win those those one on 991 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 4: ones when they do one on one blitz pick up. 992 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 5: We have to have to talk to coach Gould about that. 993 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 4: This SEU who wins so we can have it on there, 994 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 4: because that's if I'm Seattle, I'm like, yo, we're gonna 995 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 4: anytime we think it is a pass situation, you're blitz 996 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 4: in the back because that's who won the Super Bowl. 997 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 4: To be honest, remember how many sacks, crucial sacks he 998 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 4: had laid in that game rushing on Joe Mixon. 999 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 5: Was able to go. 1000 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 4: Then Joe Maxon's not in the game because he can't 1001 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,919 Speaker 4: pick up the blitz. They put somemaj p Ryan who 1002 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 4: falls and gets it to third and one or fourth 1003 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 4: and one and doesn't get the first down and then you. 1004 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 5: Get the sack. 1005 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 4: So Ernest Jones, his blitzing is going to be a problem. 1006 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 4: And that's going to be again. That's why I say 1007 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 4: forty plus runs, we can get all that blitzing out 1008 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 4: that we don't need you blitzing. We need to we 1009 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 4: need to have control of this game. 1010 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 3: And look, I think only four pressures on Matthew know 1011 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 3: sacks against the Vikings like that was the stat of 1012 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 3: the game on Thursday, And the offensive line deserves a 1013 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 3: lot of credit. The tackles in particular are having nice seasons, 1014 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 3: but it's not just them. It's Matthew protecting himself, the 1015 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 3: communication being better, fewer silent count opportunities, and then how 1016 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 3: about the backs and the tight ends doing their par 1017 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 3: like that's that's really what I felt, all right? 1018 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: He crowdsourced for his what's your key to victory? 1019 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,479 Speaker 5: Oh? I told you was simple. 1020 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 4: This is forty plus forty plus forty plus we get 1021 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 4: if you can run the ball. It eliminates a lot 1022 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 4: of issues with the blitzing the different Again, Seattle's going 1023 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 4: to try to blitz if they can't get pressure right away. 1024 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 4: Part of trading for Ernest Jones was the fact that 1025 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 4: he's more physical than as jer Own Baker who they 1026 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 4: traded away. He can come downhill. They wanted to be 1027 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,439 Speaker 4: more of a physical defense. If you can eliminate that, 1028 00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 4: that helps. 1029 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 5: Them with a lot of stuff going on. 1030 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 4: I just don't want to see Ernest Jones like getting 1031 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 4: a sack because that's going to be crazy. 1032 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 2: That's yeah, we'll feel that, but I'll give you one 1033 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 2: more too. Just in terms of Geno Smith's he has 1034 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 2: been sacked twenty one times. I think we can get 1035 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 2: some more pressure on him. Obviously, Rams are tied for 1036 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 2: third highest pressure rate in the NFL this season. 1037 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 3: I think the rate there is important because yes, he 1038 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 3: has been hitt and sacked, but on a per drop 1039 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 3: back basis, Seattle's actually done okay to protect him. Like 1040 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 3: his sacked raw number is there, but his sack rate 1041 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 3: compared to some of the other major passers in this 1042 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 3: league not so bad. And I don't know this is 1043 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 3: the game to go do it for sure. 1044 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 2: I also want to think back one more time to 1045 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 2: what Jared first said to you, because when you mentioned 1046 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 2: some of those maybe miss tackles or missed opportunities, like 1047 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 2: he owned that conversation and said absolutely, and he immediately 1048 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 2: kind of changed his tune in terms of like it 1049 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 2: was something that he was not just locked in on 1050 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 2: but ready to perform, and he's completely changed that storyline. 1051 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 1: I love it. I thought it was great. 1052 00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 4: I will say the one thing I loved that he 1053 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 4: was like my pass rus was very simp I'm gonna 1054 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 4: run through you that's it. 1055 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go through you and get to the quarterback. 1056 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 4: And it's funny because if you look at Florida State now, 1057 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 4: their guys go around guys, and again, it's a different mindset. 1058 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 5: It's a it's a different mentality. 1059 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 4: We talked about if you're gonna beat the Niners, how 1060 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 4: do you beat them? 1061 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 5: Right? 1062 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 4: You gotta be more physical, you gotta be more rough. 1063 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 4: The Rams have changed the way they've played football in 1064 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 4: the last couple of years, both by size but also 1065 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 4: mindset of players, like your adverse being physical and running 1066 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 4: through guys every play, I'm gonna come back. 1067 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 5: I'm gonna do it again, and you just keep doing that. 1068 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 4: That is that is like I've been in there with 1069 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 4: linemen that have been like, yo, help me, yep, this 1070 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 4: is this is not what I want. And so uh 1071 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 4: that that mindset. You can see kind of how that's 1072 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 4: going through the team a little bit. 1073 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 3: It allows him to play every down too, because he 1074 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 3: plays run down and he takes pride and run down. 1075 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 3: And that's also an inside storyline on this game is 1076 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 3: the Seahawks have struggled lately because their early down efficiency 1077 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 3: on both sides of the football has been bad. Their 1078 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 3: opponents have had short yardage third downs and they've had 1079 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 3: third in a mile to go. That's something to keep 1080 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 3: an eye on, like average third down distance on Sunday. 1081 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 2: And I'll fest up a little bit too. I just 1082 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 2: wanted to find a way to bring up Jared Verse 1083 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 2: because I also thank your best Halloween costume for this evening, 1084 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 2: Little Tomato Juice will V eight action. 1085 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 3: Come on, I got that spider versus graphic that RAM 1086 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 3: Social put out this morning. That was pretty sweet. 1087 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1088 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,879 Speaker 3: I might have to adopt a new nickname there for. 1089 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 1: Rip them Picks. 1090 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 2: I like that the gravestone. Well, the guys, this has 1091 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,439 Speaker 2: been a fun episode. We've definitely gone over time limit. 1092 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 2: I wasn't even looking at the clock because I'm too 1093 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 2: scared too, but it was deservedly so. This week nine 1094 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 2: matchup is going to be a good one between the 1095 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 2: Los Angeles Rams and of course the Seattle Seahawks on 1096 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 2: the road. Thanks so much for joining us on this 1097 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 2: edition of Between the Horns presented by your Southern at 1098 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 2: California Tour with dealers Cameron are When jab Long and 1099 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,479 Speaker 2: Maurice Jones, Drew Caty, Trick or Treat