1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: Hats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,598 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,759 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. 4 00:00:37,839 --> 00:00:39,638 Speaker 2: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall Fame, 5 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: Mike Rabel. 6 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 7 00:00:42,519 --> 00:00:45,398 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight and. 8 00:00:45,359 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: Pleased to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian coy Or. 9 00:00:48,319 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 3: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number 10 00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:53,799 Speaker 3: one in our hearts at least, Rodney Harrison. Good to 11 00:00:53,839 --> 00:00:54,399 Speaker 3: be home. 12 00:00:54,639 --> 00:00:56,078 Speaker 2: Good to see you guys. 13 00:00:55,799 --> 00:00:58,519 Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 14 00:01:00,879 --> 00:01:05,239 Speaker 4: Good afternoon. I thought it was a good team win. 15 00:01:05,639 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 4: I thought those guys, even though we were down a 16 00:01:09,199 --> 00:01:11,639 Speaker 4: few guys, we always talk about the next men up mentality. 17 00:01:12,199 --> 00:01:15,518 Speaker 4: I think the safety has definitely, you know, stepped up today, 18 00:01:15,878 --> 00:01:18,999 Speaker 4: especially without having Duggar and Pepper's back there. I thought 19 00:01:18,999 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 4: the three of those guys did a good job, you know, 20 00:01:21,479 --> 00:01:23,238 Speaker 4: going back to the next men up mentality. You know, 21 00:01:23,279 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 4: you lose Drake there early in the game, and thought 22 00:01:26,039 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 4: Jakobe was ready to go. It wasn't perfect. Oh but 23 00:01:29,519 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 4: at the same time, I thought the operation was good. 24 00:01:31,679 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 4: I thought he made some good throws and we just 25 00:01:33,999 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 4: had to continue to build on that. I thought up 26 00:01:35,399 --> 00:01:37,719 Speaker 4: front the pass pro was pretty good. There was a 27 00:01:37,719 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 4: time where ninety five started kind of taking over the 28 00:01:40,199 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 4: game a little bit. But I thought the guys again 29 00:01:42,359 --> 00:01:46,398 Speaker 4: showed the resilience that they've developed over the past few weeks. 30 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,359 Speaker 4: Really proud of the guys. There are a lot of 31 00:01:48,439 --> 00:01:49,999 Speaker 4: There was a lot of noise and a lot of chattering. 32 00:01:50,199 --> 00:01:53,839 Speaker 4: I'm very appreciative of just their attitude and professionalism on 33 00:01:53,879 --> 00:01:57,719 Speaker 4: an everyday basis. I thought it was good. Look, I 34 00:01:57,719 --> 00:01:59,959 Speaker 4: would say the guys on special teams. I thought the energy. 35 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:02,719 Speaker 4: I thought the energy overall was better. It's good to 36 00:02:02,759 --> 00:02:06,799 Speaker 4: get a win here at home and Jillette good. 37 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:08,399 Speaker 5: Questions back. 38 00:02:10,038 --> 00:02:10,478 Speaker 3: Toronto. 39 00:02:10,519 --> 00:02:12,599 Speaker 6: I think you know with the week that was you 40 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,159 Speaker 6: know here, uh, And it came down to sports can 41 00:02:16,199 --> 00:02:17,719 Speaker 6: be funny. It came down to a fourth and goal 42 00:02:18,199 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 6: at the one with twenty five seconds left. What did 43 00:02:20,358 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 6: that mean to you to watch your team rally together 44 00:02:22,959 --> 00:02:25,559 Speaker 6: and put it in but also come off hooting and hollering, 45 00:02:25,599 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 6: And what did you say to them responsing that locker. 46 00:02:27,839 --> 00:02:30,559 Speaker 4: Room it means a lot, you know. You know, when 47 00:02:30,559 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 4: you preach something and it shows up in the game, 48 00:02:32,319 --> 00:02:34,879 Speaker 4: it's always going to be more impactful. I would tell you, like, 49 00:02:34,959 --> 00:02:36,759 Speaker 4: there comes to a point in time where everyone in 50 00:02:36,799 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 4: the stadium knows you got to run the ball, whether 51 00:02:39,079 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 4: you're talking about on defense, if we're on defense, or 52 00:02:41,439 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 4: if we're on offense. There comes a point in time 53 00:02:43,119 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 4: where they know, everyone knows, the fans know, everyone knows 54 00:02:46,159 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 4: as a run play, and you got to really just 55 00:02:48,439 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 4: defeat the man across from you. And look, Fortunately, our 56 00:02:51,679 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 4: guys got movement and we score it, so it was great. 57 00:02:56,959 --> 00:02:59,319 Speaker 3: Kyle Dugar was out to Dan's report late. How'd you 58 00:02:59,359 --> 00:03:01,479 Speaker 3: guys have to do some last minute adjustments with him 59 00:03:01,519 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 3: out of the game. Looked like Jonathan Jones was playing 60 00:03:03,519 --> 00:03:04,719 Speaker 3: a little bit more safety than usual. 61 00:03:04,839 --> 00:03:06,798 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jay Jones another guy. You know, we talk about 62 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 4: versatility in our personnel, and he knows every single spot, 63 00:03:09,839 --> 00:03:12,078 Speaker 4: every single location. I would also say, you know, I 64 00:03:12,119 --> 00:03:14,199 Speaker 4: thought Martine did a good job as far as controlling 65 00:03:14,199 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 4: the huddle and you know, just communicating overall, and those 66 00:03:17,359 --> 00:03:19,599 Speaker 4: guys played well again, you know, just to go back 67 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 4: to the next man up, not to sound cliche or redundant. 68 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 4: That's the mentality that we have to have if we 69 00:03:25,159 --> 00:03:26,439 Speaker 4: want to build what we want to build. 70 00:03:29,519 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 7: Drive players made last week of the comments of saying 71 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:35,279 Speaker 7: that the page the team played soft. I want to 72 00:03:35,279 --> 00:03:37,519 Speaker 7: give you a chance this week different outcome. What we 73 00:03:37,839 --> 00:03:41,519 Speaker 7: would you describe to describe the way the team played today. 74 00:03:41,679 --> 00:03:45,279 Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever really questioned the resilience of 75 00:03:45,319 --> 00:03:47,799 Speaker 4: this team, and I'm not going to go back to 76 00:03:47,839 --> 00:03:49,479 Speaker 4: those comments. What I will say is we have a 77 00:03:49,559 --> 00:03:52,559 Speaker 4: room full of guys with the mentality that you know, 78 00:03:52,599 --> 00:03:54,439 Speaker 4: you got to change the page every day. Every day 79 00:03:54,479 --> 00:03:55,719 Speaker 4: is a new day, and we have to get better 80 00:03:55,759 --> 00:03:57,919 Speaker 4: and understand that practice is the most important thing we 81 00:03:57,959 --> 00:03:59,479 Speaker 4: do until we get to the to the game. 82 00:03:59,559 --> 00:04:03,799 Speaker 8: So I think it was four yards per carry allowed 83 00:04:03,839 --> 00:04:04,959 Speaker 8: for you guys defensively today. 84 00:04:04,999 --> 00:04:07,319 Speaker 9: What did you do this week to get some improvement 85 00:04:07,479 --> 00:04:08,759 Speaker 9: as far as that part of your defense? 86 00:04:08,879 --> 00:04:10,479 Speaker 4: It was under four yards a carry. I think it's 87 00:04:10,959 --> 00:04:13,599 Speaker 4: three point nine. But now you know it really is 88 00:04:13,639 --> 00:04:15,639 Speaker 4: the guys is going out there and executing. I mean 89 00:04:15,639 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 4: there's no magic pill or magic drink or anything like that. 90 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:21,759 Speaker 4: It's the mentality, a mentality that we're going to stop 91 00:04:21,799 --> 00:04:23,999 Speaker 4: the run, and I thought for the most part today 92 00:04:24,039 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 4: we did stop to run. You know, I'm saying that 93 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:27,319 Speaker 4: we'll go back and watch the film. There were a 94 00:04:27,359 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 4: few that that popped on us a little bit. We'll 95 00:04:30,318 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 4: get those correct. 96 00:04:33,119 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 8: You talked about the noise in the chatter this week. 97 00:04:34,959 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 8: What would you say you learned about yourself, you know, 98 00:04:37,079 --> 00:04:37,878 Speaker 8: throughout this week. 99 00:04:38,119 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 4: Oh for me, Look, I don't I don't hear that stuff. 100 00:04:42,239 --> 00:04:45,238 Speaker 4: You know, you talk about adversity, talk about chatter, it 101 00:04:45,239 --> 00:04:47,358 Speaker 4: will always be there. I think there's a difference between 102 00:04:47,438 --> 00:04:50,998 Speaker 4: like noise and signals. So if I can pick up 103 00:04:51,039 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 4: on signals of what's coming out the locker room from 104 00:04:53,879 --> 00:04:55,999 Speaker 4: you know, you guys talking to the players, that's that's great. 105 00:04:56,318 --> 00:04:58,278 Speaker 4: The rest of us just noise to me, and my 106 00:04:58,399 --> 00:05:02,959 Speaker 4: ultimate goal is to get this team better every single day. 107 00:05:03,678 --> 00:05:06,118 Speaker 9: Drod, you mentioned seeing resilience from this team that you 108 00:05:06,159 --> 00:05:08,438 Speaker 9: said kind of built up the last few weeks. 109 00:05:08,479 --> 00:05:10,879 Speaker 6: How and where did you see them build that resilience 110 00:05:10,958 --> 00:05:11,999 Speaker 6: over the past few weeks. 111 00:05:12,239 --> 00:05:14,199 Speaker 4: I think I've told you guys, you know, I thought 112 00:05:14,239 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 4: the past three weeks of practice have been pretty good 113 00:05:16,879 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 4: and it's good to see that show up. 114 00:05:18,719 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 3: In the game, GIROD. 115 00:05:21,399 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 9: We saw thank you GD. 116 00:05:22,958 --> 00:05:24,718 Speaker 8: We saw Draco down in the second quarter. 117 00:05:24,799 --> 00:05:26,439 Speaker 9: How is he doing if you have any update on 118 00:05:26,519 --> 00:05:27,758 Speaker 9: him after this game? 119 00:05:28,318 --> 00:05:31,998 Speaker 4: Yeah, I walked in halftime and some and you know 120 00:05:32,119 --> 00:05:34,199 Speaker 4: the competitor that he is, obviously he wanted to go 121 00:05:34,239 --> 00:05:36,079 Speaker 4: back out there and play, but there's a protocol that 122 00:05:36,438 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 4: he has to go through. And again, can't wait to 123 00:05:38,799 --> 00:05:39,399 Speaker 4: get him back. 124 00:05:41,799 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: Coach, it seemed like the Run Game struggle to get 125 00:05:43,479 --> 00:05:44,959 Speaker 2: things going for most of the game, but started to 126 00:05:45,039 --> 00:05:46,518 Speaker 2: kind of figure it out a little bit later. Was 127 00:05:46,519 --> 00:05:48,439 Speaker 2: there something specific that you saw that kind of helped 128 00:05:48,438 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 2: them get back on track? And also just I know 129 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:52,878 Speaker 2: the resiliency we keep saying it, but we saw from Jacobi, 130 00:05:52,919 --> 00:05:54,998 Speaker 2: from Kaishaan, from those guys up front. So could you 131 00:05:55,039 --> 00:05:56,278 Speaker 2: maybe add what you thought about said? 132 00:05:56,558 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 4: I always say, like in the Run Game, you know, 133 00:05:58,599 --> 00:06:00,959 Speaker 4: there are certain philosophies where three yard runs not a 134 00:06:00,958 --> 00:06:02,998 Speaker 4: good run. But if it's physical to me, you know, 135 00:06:03,039 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 4: I liking it to boxing. Those are body blows. If 136 00:06:06,519 --> 00:06:08,158 Speaker 4: you get enough of those body blows, you get to 137 00:06:08,198 --> 00:06:10,158 Speaker 4: the second half, then you start to pop some bigger runs. 138 00:06:10,198 --> 00:06:11,598 Speaker 4: And I think that's what happened today. 139 00:06:13,159 --> 00:06:16,239 Speaker 5: Hey, coach. The second quarter, fourth quarter, towards the end 140 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,518 Speaker 5: of it, you had the similar situation two minutes to go, 141 00:06:18,599 --> 00:06:23,678 Speaker 5: two timeouts, but you took it obviously different approaches. So 142 00:06:23,958 --> 00:06:26,519 Speaker 5: I wonder what you have thought about those two different 143 00:06:26,558 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 5: situations and do you feel that I'll come up the 144 00:06:29,318 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 5: game will give you more confidence to play aggressively more 145 00:06:32,359 --> 00:06:33,438 Speaker 5: aggressively going forward. 146 00:06:33,479 --> 00:06:35,559 Speaker 4: Look when we you know, I'll just talk about the 147 00:06:35,599 --> 00:06:36,759 Speaker 4: end of the half. You know, at the end of 148 00:06:36,759 --> 00:06:39,079 Speaker 4: the half you lose your starting quarterback and you just 149 00:06:39,159 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 4: want to get the clock run and just so we 150 00:06:40,958 --> 00:06:43,999 Speaker 4: can reset at halftime. And that was really the mentality there. 151 00:06:44,159 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 4: I know, the fans and stuff they don't like. They 152 00:06:45,879 --> 00:06:47,278 Speaker 4: don't like it and always want you to try to 153 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 4: go out there. But I would say it was just 154 00:06:49,639 --> 00:06:51,639 Speaker 4: a chance for us to get in the locker room 155 00:06:51,678 --> 00:06:52,439 Speaker 4: and hit the reset. 156 00:06:52,479 --> 00:07:00,438 Speaker 10: But Hi, Dren, we were aware that Juwan Bentley addressed 157 00:07:00,438 --> 00:07:04,079 Speaker 10: the team. I know other leaders did as well. John Jones, 158 00:07:05,479 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 10: how much did that leadership play a role in helping 159 00:07:09,719 --> 00:07:13,718 Speaker 10: turn things around or at least getting the right message across. 160 00:07:14,078 --> 00:07:16,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, to me, you know, it's always been that way. 161 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:19,439 Speaker 4: You know, the head coach has a message and you 162 00:07:19,439 --> 00:07:21,278 Speaker 4: you lean on your captains or your leaders on the 163 00:07:21,279 --> 00:07:24,078 Speaker 4: squad to disseminate that message and reinforce that message amongst 164 00:07:24,078 --> 00:07:26,079 Speaker 4: the rest of the group. And I thought those guys 165 00:07:26,078 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 4: did it this week. Now, Yeah, that's what I thought. 166 00:07:29,639 --> 00:07:33,639 Speaker 8: Chris on your left, Hey, Drod, Obviously you send a 167 00:07:33,639 --> 00:07:36,319 Speaker 8: message to the group and you see this type of 168 00:07:36,359 --> 00:07:39,079 Speaker 8: response today and the type of buy and that's the 169 00:07:39,119 --> 00:07:42,839 Speaker 8: group obviously demonstrated. What does what does that mean? You 170 00:07:42,919 --> 00:07:46,078 Speaker 8: have kind of big picture about you as a coach 171 00:07:46,199 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 8: and also you know this group playing for you. 172 00:07:48,839 --> 00:07:50,599 Speaker 4: Yea, I'm not sure what it means is you know 173 00:07:50,719 --> 00:07:52,639 Speaker 4: for me as a coach Personally, I'm proud of the 174 00:07:52,679 --> 00:07:55,158 Speaker 4: guys in the locker room and how they approached each 175 00:07:55,159 --> 00:07:57,119 Speaker 4: and every day no matter what was going on. And 176 00:07:57,159 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 4: it's not just the media as far as noise. It's family, 177 00:07:59,719 --> 00:08:01,719 Speaker 4: it's friends, it's all of that stuff. It's social media, 178 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:04,079 Speaker 4: it's all of that stuff. And I thought the guys, look, 179 00:08:04,119 --> 00:08:06,719 Speaker 4: they hear it, and at the same time, you just 180 00:08:06,759 --> 00:08:08,479 Speaker 4: don't listen to it and you just continue to go 181 00:08:08,479 --> 00:08:09,599 Speaker 4: in the practice field and get better. 182 00:08:09,599 --> 00:08:14,439 Speaker 3: And I thought we did that. I dried look like 183 00:08:14,479 --> 00:08:17,039 Speaker 3: a helmet to helmet hit that took out Drake. Did 184 00:08:17,078 --> 00:08:19,439 Speaker 3: you have any conversations with the officials on that and 185 00:08:19,519 --> 00:08:21,838 Speaker 3: were you kind of surprised that Pelly wasn't called? 186 00:08:23,039 --> 00:08:25,399 Speaker 4: You know, they didn't call it. I had conversations with 187 00:08:25,439 --> 00:08:27,518 Speaker 4: them the entire game. I thought, you know, some of 188 00:08:27,519 --> 00:08:30,079 Speaker 4: those calls were questionable. But at the same time after 189 00:08:30,239 --> 00:08:34,879 Speaker 4: go back and watch the film and we'll have those conversations. 190 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,519 Speaker 9: Not to believe with the resiliency tag here, but if 191 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 9: anyone personifies that, you could argue Rimandi Stevenson does what 192 00:08:42,119 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 9: he's gone through this year, had a few big plays here, 193 00:08:44,799 --> 00:08:46,718 Speaker 9: I know, not a lot of yards. Can you talk 194 00:08:46,719 --> 00:08:48,999 Speaker 9: about him? And he was not in first and goal 195 00:08:49,078 --> 00:08:51,838 Speaker 9: from the two which you kicked the field goal for 196 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 9: the first two plays, Why was any and then just asking. 197 00:08:55,319 --> 00:08:57,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, Romandre is one of our best players. I haven't 198 00:08:57,759 --> 00:09:00,359 Speaker 4: backed down from that at all. You know, there was 199 00:09:00,359 --> 00:09:02,159 Speaker 4: some tempo on there and didn't have the opportunity to 200 00:09:02,159 --> 00:09:05,039 Speaker 4: get him in at that time. Good Thanks. 201 00:09:05,839 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: Patriots Playbook join John Brook as he brings you all 202 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: the latest Patriots Tongue, an expert commentary direct from Patriots HQ. 203 00:09:12,759 --> 00:09:15,119 Speaker 1: The show features interviews with New England and opponent beat 204 00:09:15,159 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: writers that bring you a unique media view of the 205 00:09:17,199 --> 00:09:17,879 Speaker 1: state of the team. 206 00:09:17,959 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 8: But where the Patriots are concerned, let's just get one 207 00:09:20,759 --> 00:09:23,359 Speaker 8: thing done and let's get it done right, and then 208 00:09:23,399 --> 00:09:26,239 Speaker 8: we can worry about versatility. Am I lying to anybody here. 209 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 8: Let's just get one thing done. 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