1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of The Doug Gottlieb 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: boxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR Boom. What Up America, 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fuck Sports Radio. 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: I hope you're having a great day. 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live every single day, same 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: bad time, same bad channel. Uh what should we talk about? Hey, guys, 11 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: you want to talk some baseball? Kyles Shober hitting four 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: home runs last night? 13 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: Going to do that? 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: Or we could talk some hoops? Right, we talked some 15 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: college football after last night. Whatever do you guys want 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: to talk about? 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: Oh? 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: I know Micah Parsons. So Micah Parsons is a Green 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: Bay packer. And let me just let me just give 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: you a little insight into my life. Right, I know 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people. That's inarguable. I think most people 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: you get to our age and you know a lot 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: of people. Now, I know a lot of people in 24 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: sports and in entertainment. None of this is new information, right, 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: none of it is new information. But I do know 26 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people in sports. I do know a 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: lot of people that are influential in sports, especially in 28 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: the sport of football. And so what happened was two 29 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: days ago John Cood, who works in State in radio, 30 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: tweeted out Micah frickin' Parsons. So people lost their mind 31 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: and they came to me because they think, well, you 32 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: know everything. I'm not an NFL insider. I don't purport 33 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: to be. It didn't make any sense to me at all, right, 34 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys wouldn't just sit tight and go, hey, 35 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: if we can come to an agreement, you play this year, 36 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: then you become a free agent next year knowing you 37 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: can franchise tag. 38 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: That was my thoughts. I was wrong. 39 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: So maybe we need an explanation why, by many people's estimation, 40 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: the best defensive player in football was traded a week. 41 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: And a half before the season was going to begin. 42 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: Here's Jerry Jones, owner the Cowboys, explaining why the deal 43 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: was made. 44 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: So we have the highest paid player in the NFL 45 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 3: at quarterback, and we made that commitment last year and 46 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: we're proud we made it and had everything to do 47 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: with this decision. Everything it is give us every opportunity 48 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: with Dak Press Good and Lamb and the base that 49 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: we've got to win now. This give gives us a 50 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 3: better chance to be a better team than we have 51 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 3: been the last few several years since Michael has been here. 52 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: Not any negative on Michael, but we're trying to get better. 53 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: We're trying to stop the run and stay in the hunt. 54 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: I am very excited about very excited beyond any consideration 55 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: of a regret of the consideration that we got in 56 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 3: this trade and have the player. I'm very excited about that. 57 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: It is more in keeping within my mind what's in 58 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: the best interests of the Dallas Cowboys. 59 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: So it's all that wording is really interesting, right, What 60 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: does it all mean? What does it all mean? First, 61 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: let me take it to Jeene Slater. She's the NFL 62 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: Network reporter on the Cowboys. She's still a podcast on 63 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys as well, so she's dialed in there. She 64 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: had this to say on the Herd in regards to 65 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: Michaeh Parsons and how he was how he was perceived 66 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: in in the Cowboys locker room. 67 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 4: The truth of it is the building one here. Starting 68 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: about two years ago, we started hearing frustrations within the 69 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 4: locker room. And when I say frustrations, I don't want 70 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 4: to sit here and say that Micah Parsons is a 71 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 4: problem player. He certainly doesn't have problems off the field. 72 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 4: It's more of In talking to former coaches, one of 73 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: the concerns was does he love football or he does 74 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: does he love the idea of being a football player 75 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 4: that gets the accolades, then gets the camera and the podcast. 76 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 4: And there would be frustration when they were in meeting 77 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: rooms and he would drift in and out. I would 78 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: describe it as just real he needs a coaching staff 79 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 4: that's really going to dive in and invest in him. 80 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 4: We saw that with Dan Quinn. We saw Mike Zimmer 81 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 4: sort of buy in as much as he could, you know, 82 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: last year. But he's that type of player that just 83 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: requires a lot of buying and attention. And I think 84 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 4: it started to wear on the locker room. Let me 85 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 4: change that. I know it were on the locker room 86 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 4: because in talking to previous coaching staffs in exit interviews, 87 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 4: there were a number of players who came to them 88 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 4: and said we have to do something about Mike. 89 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: We have to do something about Micah was actually that 90 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: was actually uttered. So in some ways this is about culture, 91 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: which is honestly the same reason that the MAVs moved 92 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: off of move off to Luka Dongic. I think the 93 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: problem with it becoming about culture is that if he 94 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: was this big of a problem, if his problems outweighed 95 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: his production, then why did you offer him a five 96 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: year contract worth forty million dollars per year. Again, we 97 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: can get into how everything went sideways. We can get 98 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: into the fact that Jerry tried to negotiate without the agent, 99 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: and it would allow me to speculate, Hey, I don't know, 100 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: maybe maybe Jerry got ticked because Parsons was a bad 101 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: actor in this deal. And I don't mean that he 102 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: was a poor actor. I mean he's a bad actor 103 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: from the standpoint of he started the negotiations without his agent. 104 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: Then when the negotiations got came to a head, then 105 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: he ran back to his agents like, Hey, they're trying 106 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: to negotiate without me. 107 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 108 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: That's a possibility. What doesn't make sense about the Cowboys, 109 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: about what Jane Slater's saying and I'm not saying in 110 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: any way that what Jane Slayer's saying. 111 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: Is not accurate. 112 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 1: But the idea that the Cowboys moving off of Micah 113 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: Parsons makes them a better team because he was killing 114 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: their culture, because he's not truly invested in being a 115 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: great football player, just being a Micah Parsons big personality. 116 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: That sounds great. Why ya from forty million dollars guaranteed 117 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: per year? Why did you come to an agreement. 118 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: That that? 119 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: That hasn't been answered for me, but I can tell 120 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: you from a Green Bay, Wisconsant perspective. Does the idea 121 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: of him needing a podcast, needing attention, wanted to get likes? 122 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: Does that should that be troublesome? Yeah, it doesn't fit 123 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: with how the how the Packers role doesn't fit without 124 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: the Packers role. 125 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: But the argument the Packers can. 126 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: Make, whether it works long term or not, is, hey, 127 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: you're making forty seven million a year, now you don't 128 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: need a podcast. I do think a good young locker room, 129 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: actually an older locker room is probably the best place 130 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: for that type of act, a younger locker room. It 131 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: can go either way. But the part of the argument 132 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense from the Cowboys perspective, is I 133 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: hear it. 134 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: I get it. He had a podcast he you know. 135 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: The messaging is, I don't know if he loves football 136 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: as much as just loves the benefits of being a 137 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: football player. 138 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: That is. 139 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: Those are keywords for coaches to hear, because you want 140 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: somebody who loves what they do, you love what you do, 141 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: then you don't have to worry about him quitting on 142 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: a fourth down play when all is for not football 143 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: guys like guys that want to play football that are 144 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: grinders that love playing football. Basketball, same thing, baseball, same 145 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: thing we talk about all the time. You have to 146 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: have guys that love it and not everybody's gotta love it. 147 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: But at his position, at his price tag, he's gotta 148 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: love it. 149 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: I get it. 150 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: But I'm struggling with the If he drove everybody so crazy, 151 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: why did they offer him such a big deal? Then 152 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: come to an agreement on the deal. If you didn't 153 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: want him and you wanted this to play out as such, 154 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: you could have moved him, or you could have gotten 155 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: as much out of him as you wanted this year. 156 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: Make him play under that contract. Fine, if he doesn't 157 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: play play hardball instead, you bailed, you got a really 158 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: good player, you got two picks. But it doesn't make 159 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: sense in terms of how they handled everything. I get it, 160 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons. Is this new generation. It's no different than 161 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: in baseball, guys that like to callac around the bass pass, 162 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: guys that handle things different. The old guard doesn't like it, 163 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: and eventually the new guard becomes the old guard, and 164 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: they don't like it either. And I don't know what 165 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: happens with his podcast or other podcast, or if he 166 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: tones it down a notch or tones it down to notches. 167 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 168 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: What I do know is that the Cowboys up until 169 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: very recently desperately wanted him to return, and we're willing 170 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: to make him the highest paid non quarterback in the league. 171 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: That to me, does not scream of a guy who 172 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: they're concerned about what he does for their culture. Now, 173 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: if you're if you're if Jerry Jones is forget what 174 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: he's saying. What he's thinking is this allows us to 175 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: load up for next year. And by you know, by 176 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: paying Clark, you know, pennies in comparison to what you 177 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: would have had to pay Micah, we save money, We 178 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: get more draft picks up on talent. That all sounds great, 179 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: but don't tell me your aims are to be competitive 180 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: when you lose the best defensive player in the division, 181 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: maybe the best defensive player in the NFL, and you 182 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: replace him with a good player nine years in nothing 183 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: and a guy who lacked the pass rushing that Micah 184 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: Parsons had. 185 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 5: This is the best of the Don dot Leaf Show 186 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 5: on Fox Sports Radio. 187 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: Hey, what up with your Doug Gottlieb Show? 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We'll get his thoughts on the 197 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: Browns quarterback situation. We do have the press. We got 198 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. I think you'll like it. But 199 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: one of my favorite things we do all week is 200 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: right now, this is the middle of the week. It's 201 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: a Wednesday. And and by the way, I always I 202 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: know when it's Wednesday out, Wednesday's my trash day. I've 203 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: become that guy. I've become that guy where getting through 204 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: a workout. My guys ran a hill a hill today 205 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: Beard's Creek Hill where getting through and I only did 206 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: it a couple of times, but you're just like, okay, 207 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: just make sure I can get through and not get hurt. 208 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: I've got to that point. I've also gotten to I 209 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: set my I know what day the week it is 210 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: based on when I take the trash out. I become 211 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: that guy as well. Garby, Yep, that's that's where I am. 212 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm just going Garby. But it is a Wednesday, that's 213 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: the middle of the week. It's one o'clock on the West. 214 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: That's relatively middle of the day. And with our podcast 215 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: that follows the show, it's the middle of the show. 216 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: That's why we call this part of the show the midway. 217 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 2: It's not getting at. 218 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 5: The midway. 219 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: All right there, Jasetu, what's the midway time? 220 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 6: Thank you, Doug. 221 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 7: I'll take it from here. I've got Sam Iowa Sam 222 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 7: has never been more outside here. 223 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 8: Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. 224 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 9: IOA. 225 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 7: Sam has never been more excited about a midway topic. 226 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 7: He's like he was jumping through the phone to agree 227 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 7: with this group text message today. I want to know 228 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 7: from each of you what is the one storyline? Just one? 229 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 7: Because I want to I want to drill down on 230 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 7: the one. No need to be like, yeah, there's like 231 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 7: ten or fifteen. I'm looking forward. It's just one, the 232 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 7: one that you were looking forward to the most, the 233 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 7: college football storyline this season that you are most looking 234 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 7: forward to see him play out. I will give Iowa 235 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 7: Sam the four only because he was so anxious to 236 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 7: talk about about this. 237 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 9: Sam. 238 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 10: I mean, it's got to be the AP's preseason number 239 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 10: one team. It's got to be text. Can they do it? 240 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 10: I think it's the first time that Texas has ever 241 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 10: been number one entering the season in the AP. I 242 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 10: could be wrong, but I swear I heard that somewhere, 243 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 10: And if I'm wrong, we'll take it out of the podcast. 244 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 10: To borrow an old joke from Jonas Knox, like they 245 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 10: listen this, they always they have the money, they have 246 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 10: the boosters, they have the you know, millions of dollars 247 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 10: and invested into their their roster. They got college football 248 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 10: royalty in arch Manning. And you know, he is a 249 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 10: little experienced, He's got to play a little bit last year. 250 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 10: But people have wondered why did he sit so long? 251 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 10: And why why is finally now he's the starter when 252 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 10: someone you know wasn't injured in front of him? 253 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 6: Why is he the starter now? 254 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 10: But if if all goes to plan, Texas should be 255 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 10: raising that College Football Playoff National Championship trophy if the 256 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 10: rankings are what they are now at the end of 257 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 10: the season. 258 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 6: Could we drive down on that one? 259 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 7: Because I think the obviously the subcategory there, if not 260 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 7: the main category, is arch Manning as a college football casual. 261 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 7: This is how I see it. If college sports or 262 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 7: sports in general, is the ultimate meritocracy, why are we 263 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 7: just seeing him starting in a college football game. And 264 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 7: if we're just now seeing him starting a college football game, 265 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 7: why is he like the consensus number one draft pick? 266 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 7: If he comes out like that, to me that that's 267 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 7: a lot of hype for someone who has taken so 268 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 7: long to actually get on a college football field as 269 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 7: a starter. 270 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: Anyway, Uh, can I take this one oh yeah, Okay, 271 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: do you remember when and again I'm not a big 272 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: Justin Fields guy, Okay, but do you remember when Justin Fields. 273 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: Was at Georgia? 274 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 7: Vaguely? 275 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: Okay, Sam, you remember Justin Fields at Georgia? 276 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 6: I don't. I don't. I only remember I don't either. 277 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 9: What I don't really did he play for Georgia at all? 278 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: He was the backup? 279 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 6: Okay, all right? 280 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: Like Burrow? 281 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well Burrow Burrows up, Burrows a backup who was 282 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: a starter when he was at Ohio State. 283 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 8: Uh it was. 284 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 6: I don't know. 285 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: Anybody, ilo, I mean, I want you to think back 286 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: for a second. Okay, So what happened with Joe Burrow 287 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: was J T. Barrett was there? 288 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you're like j T. 289 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: Barrett now j T Barrett in college Joe Burrows last 290 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: year had thirty five touchdowns, nine interceptions. Great college quarterback. 291 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: And it's a lot like the presidency. It's really hard 292 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: to beat out an incumbent. 293 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: It just is, you know. 294 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: And so what happens is like you sit there and 295 00:15:55,480 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: you're like, well, he's replacing a guy who wasn't a 296 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: good pro quarterback. Okay, but that has nothing to do 297 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: with whether or not they're a good college quarterback literally 298 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: zero literally zero. So again, go back, same period of time, 299 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: go back and use Georgia as your guide, because Georgia's 300 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: quarterback at the time is a guy who I don't 301 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: think he's stuck on a college roster's Jake From. Okay, 302 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: Jake From also thirty touchdowns, six interceptions, and Jake From 303 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: is a you know, he's the consummate college quarterback you 304 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: know there four years could basically be governor just not 305 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: a pro. So Justin Field's transferred and played, Joe Burrow 306 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: transferred and played. In this case, arch Manning didn't transfer. 307 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: He sat waited his turn behind a guy who's a 308 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: really good, highly recruited college quarterback, and now he'll get 309 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: his time. But the biggest thing is it's hard to 310 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: beat out an incumbent. And there's been plenty of these 311 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: where the star quarterback was waiting in the wings. You're like, 312 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: if he's so good, why is he sitting? It's the 313 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: other guy looks better in practice. The other guy does, 314 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: knows the system, seeing everything, and so you're sitting there 315 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: as a coach going like, I could play the young 316 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: guy who's got more talent, But I'd probably lose a 317 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: game or two just because he does know what he's doing, 318 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: whereas this other guy, this Jake prom guy, or this JT. 319 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 1: Perritt guy, they do everything I asked him to do 320 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: and nothing more, nothing less, And that's how it works. 321 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: So anyway, I hope that answers your question. Jase too, 322 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: that's my opinion. 323 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 7: That makes sense. I wanted to talk about coach Prime 324 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 7: as my most intriguing story. 325 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 8: Yep. 326 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 7: When the new surface recently that he had been dealing 327 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 7: with cancer, I remember in the speculation leading up to 328 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 7: that news that he was definitely going to take advantage 329 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 7: of this situation, just step down to do something else. 330 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 7: The timing with his sons moving on to the NFL 331 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 7: and all the it just made sense because all of 332 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 7: us that have grown up with a youth sports dad coach, 333 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 7: as soon as the sun is out of the picture, 334 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 7: you lose the attention of the dad. I thought Coach 335 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 7: Prime was kind of in that ilk. So I'm gonna 336 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 7: see how it goes for him this season, how the 337 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 7: team does. If the report's out of Colorado, or that 338 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 7: his focus on the detail is a little off, maybe 339 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 7: he's a little distracted and I want to see how 340 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 7: things play out like that. I what do you guys think? 341 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 7: Do you think coach Prime will be a fully attentive 342 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 7: to his team this year? 343 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 3: I have. 344 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 2: No idea. I'm with you. I think it's fascinating. What 345 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 2: do you guys think? No idea, no idea. 346 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 10: I mean that you know, should her we can get 347 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 10: all the get into all the reasons why he slipped 348 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,239 Speaker 10: to the fifth round. But I mean, as far as 349 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 10: I know, Dion is he's recruiting great players of Colorado 350 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 10: and he's got great staff members. 351 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 6: So what they topped out at nine to four last year? 352 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: The who's the great staff? 353 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 7: Mevers that he is, uh, well he's got was it 354 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 7: Warren stuff? 355 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: He does have Warren Stapp. Again, I don't know if 356 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: Warren step is a great step. I don't know if 357 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: he's a bad one or a good but whatever. I 358 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: just know he's a huge name. But he's always been 359 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: Pat Trivers good. 360 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 6: When I see NFL guys at Marshall. 361 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 9: Faulton assistant coach running backs. 362 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 10: Yeah, so yeah, they got NFL stars. Usually I think 363 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 10: those guys know what they're doing. 364 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 2: They do. 365 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: But and again a lot of this is I don't know, 366 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: I don't know their level of grind. College coaching is 367 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: a grinder's job. Coaching football is a grinder's job. 368 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 9: And here's another dimension to it. 369 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 11: Let's say, hypothetically speaking, that Colorado winds up having a 370 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 11: terrific first couple of months of the season and the 371 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 11: Cleveland Browns do not. Now, last year, it wasn't to 372 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 11: this extent, but it was, oh, would the Cowboys hire 373 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 11: Dion Sanders as their head coach? Well, now you know, 374 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 11: they hire Schotteneimer out of the blue, and that wasn't 375 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 11: exactly a marquee higher. But I just wonder, knowing sports 376 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 11: media and especially social media as I do, if the 377 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 11: Browns have a rough couple of months and Colorado has 378 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 11: a great couple of months, I just wonder. That's all 379 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 11: I'm saying, because I know social media and I know. 380 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: You know what's interesting about that is most franchises, oh 381 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: we go, no way, But the Browns yep, and the 382 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 1: Cowboys those are the two. But I just don't think 383 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: he's healthy enough to do it anyways. 384 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, my. 385 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: Most intriguing team is Alabama. Is Alabama. I mean, it's 386 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: a job that you have to take, but you really shouldn't. 387 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: Is placing allegend, you know, is replacing a legends and 388 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: Nick Saban is an absolute legend, absolute legend. 389 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 9: So well, I want to start there. 390 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 11: Though when you say it's a job, you absolutely have 391 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 11: to take the line of thinking is you don't want 392 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 11: to be the guy that follows the guy you want 393 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 11: to be right right, But again as a coach in 394 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 11: your opinion, from your perspective, more as a coach than 395 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 11: as a host. 396 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: I just like, are you really going to turn down Alabama? 397 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: Right? 398 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: Like? So Bill Self? And I think Bill Self, with 399 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: his health, who knows this maybe his last year? 400 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: We have two more years. 401 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: It looks like Josh Faughn is the heir apparent to 402 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: get it right, played their coach in the played in 403 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: the NBA, coach in the NBA. That that seems to fit, okay, 404 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: But you know, if Kansas comes open, you're trying to 405 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: place Bill Self, the most successful coach over the last 406 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: twenty years in college basketball, the most successful, So do 407 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: you want to replace him? Like Woo guy won how 408 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: many straight Big twelve titles like fifteen or something, thirteen 409 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: or something, crazy consecutive Big twelve titles? Incredible right, won 410 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: two national championips, multiple final fours, the whole thing. So 411 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: somebody calls me is like, do you want to replay? 412 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: Do you want to follow Bill self? 413 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 8: No? 414 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: Do you want to be head coach of Kansas? Yes, 415 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: well you can't do one without the other. Okay, calein 416 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: de boor R he's at Washington. They're winning, but you 417 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: can't win consistently at Washington. That's generally the thought. Where's 418 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: it Alabama? You know, an unbelievable job, and they've been 419 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: able to be unbelievably successful and that name is synonymous 420 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: with winning. Granted, most of it tied to Saban. What's 421 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: the thinking? I mean, I think there's some ego involved. 422 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: I also think there's the you don't get to pick 423 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: timing of getting that job. You got to take it 424 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: when you get the opportunity. It's so different than me 425 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: taking this job like it was it was it perfect 426 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: timing for my family? 427 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: No, you know it wasn't. 428 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: But my calculation was how often am I get to 429 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: get an opportunity before I'm fifty years old to take 430 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: a shot of being a Division I head coach and 431 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: at a place that needs to be built. 432 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: Actually, part of the calculation. 433 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: So my point is that Kalen de boor it's year two, 434 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: most people have very little patience. I thought he did 435 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: a heck of a job last year. It for year 436 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: ones are hard. I frankly thought they should have been 437 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: the College Wall Playoff. Obviously, the one loss went to 438 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: Oklahoma late in the year probably undid them. 439 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but. 440 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,239 Speaker 6: And then they lost their bowl game. They lost their 441 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 6: bowl game to Mission. 442 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 10: There was the first time they won under ten games, 443 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 10: maybe even under eleven games in a long time, a 444 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 10: long time. I think it, Yeah, saved it first year. 445 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: So and like, let's also be honest, Okay, the days 446 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: of teams going undefeated are close to over with the 447 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: SEC right, Like it's just it doesn't feel like that 448 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: will be something that happens. So this is what I've 449 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: said this on Oklahoma radio stations. Like a good year 450 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 1: for Oklahoma with that schedule might be eight wins. And 451 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: yet for Oklahoma, there's never a good year that has 452 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: eight wins. So you have to adjust to that, you 453 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: have to adjust to not having save it. I think 454 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: Alabama is my program that I'm most intrigued by this year. 455 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 10: Well, they have probably the best offensive alignement in all 456 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 10: of college football, Caden Proctor protecting their uh what program? 457 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 10: Man's Simpson drawing a blank on his first name, Bart, Yeah, 458 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 10: I was thinking Bart Simpson. But yeah, so they have 459 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 10: They certainly had the guys. 460 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 6: But the SEC what you're Samon Grindach. 461 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 10: Well, I opened up with Texas, but I also want 462 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 10: to run back real quick though. I am interested in 463 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 10: seeing how Michigan does under Shroon Moore and Bryce Underwood 464 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 10: taking over. He was just named QB one a few 465 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 10: days ago, so they're an interesting thing. Everyone's talking about 466 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 10: Penn State and Ohio State. Michigan though lurking in the 467 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 10: what I think fourteenth fourteenth? Yeah, and they have Bryce 468 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 10: Underwood who came in as a highly tied of prospect, 469 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 10: so it should be interesting. Big ten SEC are going 470 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 10: to be really interesting and uh you know yeah, Isaac, 471 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 10: what do. 472 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 6: You got there? 473 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 9: Well, first of all, I'd like to publicly. 474 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 6: Cla something UCLA actually not this song USC. 475 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 11: I would at this time, first of all, like to 476 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 11: publicly thank Fox Sports Radios Doug Gottlieb for taking my 477 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 11: selection of Alabama, which was I was totally gonna go with. 478 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 11: But that being said, I'm going to perhaps not surprisingly 479 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 11: go with North Carolina because as much publicity as there 480 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 11: has kind of been on a different wavelength, it seems 481 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 11: like no one really knows what to expect from them 482 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,239 Speaker 11: this year. Whether they're going to be all of a 483 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 11: sudden world beaters from the very start, or an elite 484 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 11: team from the very start because of you know, Belichick 485 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 11: and his program coming in, or whether it be something 486 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 11: like a case of on the job retirement the way 487 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 11: that it goes for them during the regular season. So personally, 488 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 11: I really don't know what we're going to get from 489 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 11: North Carolina in twenty twenty five. I suppose it could 490 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 11: be some sort of disaster, or it could be really 491 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 11: really really. 492 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 9: Good right out of the box. 493 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 11: I would personally think it would be much closer to 494 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 11: trending better than worse. But I think we're gonna find 495 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 11: out right away, obviously on on Monday against TCU, which 496 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 11: I think is gonna be a great spectacle. But it 497 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 11: just I don't think there's a ton of height for 498 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 11: the actual football yet. I think it's gonna hit probably 499 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 11: on Monday, but I don't, I don't know. I just 500 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 11: I think it's a huge un known about which direction 501 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 11: this this thing is gonna go this year. 502 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 6: Eight and four. All right, I'll get the job done. 503 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 6: Eight four all right. 504 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Trail. There's 505 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: our picks. Share with this your picks at Gotlieb Show, 506 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: Twitter at Goatlieb Show on Instagram as well. 507 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 2: And that's the. 508 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 5: Midway, The Midway. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 509 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 5: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 510 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 5: at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 511 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: It's Doug gotlib Show, Fox Sports Radio. I got a 512 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: thought for you, guys. So the Bengals and Trey Hendrickson 513 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: came to an agreement, right, And basically the agreement is like, Hey, 514 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: we're not gonna extend you, but we'll give you some 515 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: more money this year. Right, We're not gonna extend you, 516 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: but we'll give you some more money this year. Now, 517 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: what does X signify? I remember they put him, you know, 518 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: they shopped him a little bit, and there was no 519 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: trade made. 520 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 521 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: Well, it's possible the Bengals asked for too much, but 522 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: it's also possible that other teams they didn't want to 523 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: trade for a guy who then they'd have to give 524 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: a contract that they don't want to have to good 525 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: to give a contract to. And they feel like, let's 526 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: watch him play this year and then we'll figure it out, 527 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: figure out what we want to pay him, what we 528 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: don't want to pay him. So tell me if this 529 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: makes sense to you. Okay, tell me this makes sense 530 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: to you. Now, remember Trey Hendrickson's deal is I don't 531 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: think it's perfect by any means. Right, They gave him 532 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: a big pay bump for just a year. He's gonna 533 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: get fourteen million more this year. The revised deal also 534 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,479 Speaker 1: includes one million dollars in incentives if he plays sixty 535 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: percent of the plays and the Bengals make the playoffs. 536 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: So he's gonna make thirty million dollars this year. That's 537 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: pretty good, But they didn't want to extend him into 538 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: extra years, or at least at the rate that he wanted, 539 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: so he could be a free agent at the end 540 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: of the year. They had discussed a two year, seventy 541 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: nine million dollar extension, and the overall deal could have 542 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: equaled ninety five million dollars over three years while accounting 543 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: for his original sixteen million dollars this year. But there 544 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: are no guarantees beyond this year. So the agent us going, hey, 545 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: you don't want to agree to it, but beyond that, 546 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: let's just give us a raise and we'll be out 547 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: the door if we do well. I think it's a 548 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: deal where no one's happy. No one's really happy. Trey 549 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: Hendrickson not really happy. Is he with the Bengals yet? 550 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: Does he get paid yet? But does he have security 551 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: beyond this year? No, that's just like the deal that 552 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: he could have signed. And for the Bengals, they were 553 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: held hostage and end up having to double the price 554 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: of their leading pass rusher. And if he plays well, 555 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: they'll probably lose him. If he plays poorly, they probably 556 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: don't want to keep him. So what really changed when 557 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: they had him under contract and they didn't have to 558 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: do anything? But you know there's something about I know 559 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: this from broadcasting. People always say when when both sides 560 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: think you're a homer for the other side, you're right 561 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: down the middle of a broadcaster. And when both sides 562 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: are a little bit unhappy with a deal, you've probably 563 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: nailed it with this contract. It's the dug Outleab Show, 564 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: It's Fox Sports Radio. Earlier today, I got a chance 565 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: to catch up with Ken Griffy Senior and Ken Griffy 566 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: Junior on behalf of depend and their stands Strong for 567 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: Men's Health campaign raising awareness for prostate cancer screening. Guys, listen, 568 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: it's obviously an honor to speak with you both. I 569 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: have to point out that I'm right in the wheelhouse 570 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: of fandom for the Griffies, right, like Junior was the 571 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,479 Speaker 1: biggest thing on Earth, Ken Senior, what was that like 572 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: for you to experience, right, not just having him play 573 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: with play with you at the same time, but for 574 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: your son to rise to where he was literally the 575 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: biggest sports star on Earth. 576 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 8: Well, that was to me, it was amazing. 577 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 12: I didn't think, you know, it would it would turn 578 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 12: out to be like that, But just watching him play 579 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 12: when I first went over to Seattle, he told me 580 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 12: I'm playing left field and he's playing center. He and 581 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 12: he draws a square box three square feet. He said, 582 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 12: you stand in that boxing and I got the rest 583 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 12: and I said, right, you know, so I dpt believing 584 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 12: him until I ended up playing with him. How good 585 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 12: he was in terms of how much ground tell kind 586 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 12: of army had the. 587 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 8: Power, which was really amazing to me. 588 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 12: I didn't know yet that much power because a lot 589 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 12: of time, you know, I mean you I threw bat 590 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 12: and practice to from twelve years old to just about 591 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 12: his eighteenth birthday. But and he didn't get it hit 592 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 12: in front of me in any games, you know, for 593 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 12: six years. So I just told Bobby Cox. But I 594 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 12: was with the Braids at the time. I said, Bobby 595 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 12: was there they right before they drafted him, and he said, 596 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 12: he said, well, go ahead and see your son. And 597 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 12: I said, well, he can't hit, you know. So he 598 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 12: ended up that night. You know, first two at bats 599 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 12: he strikes out. I got to go down to Cincinnati 600 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 12: and play the rest because I went to Braids at 601 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 12: the time we got killed. I come back home and 602 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 12: I asked him, how do you do? He said, I 603 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 12: did find I said, how did you do? He said 604 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 12: three for five two on run five r vat And 605 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 12: like I said, he didn't get it hit in front 606 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 12: of me. Tell his right before his eighteenth birthday. So 607 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 12: from twelve to eighteen, I had to watch the drop 608 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 12: and he did not make contact those six years. So 609 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 12: but to watch him play when I got his can't 610 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 12: play with him, it was amazing. I enjoyed every minute 611 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 12: of watching play because I didn't think he covered that 612 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 12: much ground, but he showed me he can do it. 613 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 12: And then his arm was outstanding because I told him 614 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 12: one time he threw Roberto it was a Kelly out 615 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 12: at home plate from centerfield wall. Yeah, and I asked 616 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 12: him why did he get the cut off man? He 617 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 12: said it was easier to just throw it all the way, 618 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 12: you know, So yeah, he did get that out. 619 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 8: But I did talk about him about to cut off man. 620 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: Can't Can you know? What what was the experience like 621 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: for you? And again I'll just tell you, like I 622 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: was in southern California like a middle school kid, and 623 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: part of it was that was in the sports center era. 624 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,239 Speaker 1: But you were the first like baseball player. Maybe Bo 625 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: Jackson a little bit before you, but we first baseball 626 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: player that we could just sit and watch highlights of 627 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: you all day. Like it was mussy from your perspective, 628 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: What was it like? 629 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 8: No, I mean getting. 630 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 13: Drafted a sevent team, making too bigas nineteen, having guys 631 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 13: around me who had my back, I mean, you know, 632 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 13: Harold Reynold's day by like Mickey Brantley, Darnelle Coles, Jeffrey Leonard, 633 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 13: I mean all these guys were like big brothers and 634 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 13: all the guys who played with my dad's. 635 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 8: Against my dad. 636 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 13: Every city I went into, they made sure that, you know, hey, 637 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 13: this is the areas you stay away from. This is 638 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 13: I'm going to come get you. We're having lunch. I mean, 639 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 13: I couldn't ask for a better group of you know, 640 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 13: big brothers and uncles and things like that. I mean, 641 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 13: I've come into a horseshoe basically. I mean the guys 642 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 13: that you know took care of me, made sure I 643 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 13: was all right day in and day out, you know. 644 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 12: And the one thing is true, I couldn't hit in 645 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 12: front of them because I wanted to. I wanted to 646 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 12: impress my dad. And he would sit there and he'd 647 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 12: just go, I don't just pretend i'm your mom, because 648 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 12: my mom show up and I go off. 649 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 8: He show up. 650 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 14: I came hit, and finally I got my first hit 651 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 14: and instruction with it, and he literally opens the window 652 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 14: of the r V and said, now was that so 653 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 14: bad and closes it and drives off. 654 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 8: And from that point on, I was fine. 655 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 13: But I just wanted to impress my dad like any 656 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 13: other because most people don't understand that, you know, he's 657 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 13: gone because he's still playing. And Saturdays and Sundays, you know, 658 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 13: most dads are watching their kids play, you know, they're home. 659 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 13: And I didn't get that opportunity. So when I did, 660 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 13: I tried to kill the ball and it backfired. And 661 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 13: that's when I learned that if I just go out 662 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 13: there and play the game the way it's supposed to be, 663 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 13: I'm going to be fine. But it took me until 664 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 13: I was drafted. And even when I got drafted, Mom 665 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 13: he came to visit me and Medford word of you. Yeah, 666 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 13: and I wrote four bats in one played appearance and 667 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 13: it was a ground ball back to the picture and 668 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 13: I and I can't hit that day, So I don't 669 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 13: get one of that. 670 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 8: He's his son. You don't have to learn or learn 671 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 8: how to use wood. 672 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 13: Bats, and you know I I from that point on, 673 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 13: I think the most bats ever broken one year was 674 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 13: maybe three. 675 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: You guys remember, I'm sure you remember that hat on 676 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: backwards controversy where you go into BP and people would say, hey, 677 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: you're disrespecting the game and Ken Senior for you for 678 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: a for a guy who you raised the best player 679 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: in baseball. Again, same thing, like you can't defend your 680 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: son on doing the right thing all the time. But 681 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: this was like a kind of a nontroversy. Controversy, how 682 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: did that affect you? 683 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 12: They didn't know the story. The story was when he 684 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 12: was a little he was always come and his wife. 685 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 12: He told him to the kids up front, he said, 686 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 12: if they went games, you auysked him come in the 687 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:03,919 Speaker 12: locker room. 688 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 8: That was their biggest thing, was coming in the locker room. 689 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 12: Pete Rose, people, Peter Rows, Junior, him, my son, Craig, 690 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 12: the barrier's kids. 691 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 2: You know. 692 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 12: That was their biggest thing, is getting the opportunity to 693 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 12: come into the locker room after a game, because if 694 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 12: we lost, they were coming in. 695 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 8: So they enjoyed that. So the situation was Junior and 696 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 8: the kids would come in. They would go down to 697 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 8: the to the cages to play. 698 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 12: You know, eacheuble grabbed their dad's glove or their hat, 699 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 12: and every day so Junior grab my hat and he's 700 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 12: running down there, and all of a sudden he's putting 701 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 12: the hat on like he's supposed to, you know, with 702 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 12: the bill out in front. Every time he went to 703 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 12: throw the vaull was go down over his eyes. He 704 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 12: couldn't see, but he finally just turned it around so 705 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 12: he can see. And that was for him just to 706 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 12: catch and throw the ball. 707 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 3: You know. 708 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 12: It was no disrespect of baseball or anything of that nature. 709 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 12: And people took it that way because they didn't understand 710 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 12: what happened, what he had went through when. 711 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 8: He was a young kid. I know, my hat was 712 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 8: my hat was bigger. 713 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 15: Than his from he said, you know, and that's that's 714 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 15: what happened. But everything everyone turned off. 715 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: You guys, realize though now you would walk out now 716 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: if you went to a plate appearance, everyone would turn 717 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: their hand, everyone would turn around. 718 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 8: That that was the reason. 719 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 12: That was the reason why he had his hat turned back. 720 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 12: What if he was disrespecting him, just so you can 721 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 12: see and catch the. 722 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 2: Ball, that's all if. 723 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: Obviously you can hear from my voice, it's like revered 724 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: terms and talking about you can if you could tell 725 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: the if you wanted the younger generation to know one 726 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: thing about you and your. 727 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 8: Career, what would it be the one thing? Yeah, you 728 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 8: only got one shot of the career. 729 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 13: Take pride in it day in and day out. 730 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 8: It's pretty good. 731 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 7: You know. 732 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 13: People take things for granted, like they're going to be 733 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 13: here tomorrow. They're going to do this tomorrow, They're going 734 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 13: to do that now. It's you know, you get one 735 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 13: shot at the thing that you want to do, probably 736 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 13: for the rest of your life. 737 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 8: Take pride in it. 738 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: Early detection it's so incredibly important for all men, especially 739 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: African American men. It's why I'm honored to have you 740 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: guys join us, Ken if you could. Why is it 741 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: important to you that people understand about early detection for 742 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: prostate cancer. 743 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 12: Well, that was the most important thing for me, was 744 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 12: the early detection. Going back to the history of my family. 745 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 12: I had four uncles that I lost through by state cancer, 746 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 12: and knowing that a lot of them they never went 747 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 12: to the doctor, they never talked about anything, and so 748 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 12: if they would have talked about it at that time, 749 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 12: I would probably got to know them more or act 750 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 12: then home period because they died early and I never 751 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 12: got a chance to meet them even talk to them. 752 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 12: But to me, being diagnosed early or screened early, well 753 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 12: it's a chance that you'll be you'll be your survival rate, 754 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 12: you know, so being you know, to me was the 755 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 12: most important thing was diagnosed early. 756 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,760 Speaker 8: I mean I had to go through so many changes 757 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 8: with the. 758 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 12: Doing all the whole Actually, the whole process was kind 759 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 12: of tough on me because, like I said, I already 760 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 12: knew about it. But at the same time, you know, 761 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 12: if my mother had talked about it and I was 762 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 12: able to go through the whole process. 763 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's Prostate Cancer Awareness Month. Depend of course 764 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: has put a million dollars a million dollars in Prostate 765 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: Cancer Foundation. And obviously you guys teaming up with with 766 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: Emmett Smith as as part of this Camp Pain guys, 767 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: I cannot thank you enough for your time. And obviously 768 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 1: you guys are the original father and son duo, and 769 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 1: I think your words and your belief and you're telling 770 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: people to open up a conversation, right, because that's that's 771 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: the hard part about it, right, Junior, is like just 772 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: having a conversation about it, which seems maybe embarrassing to some, 773 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,439 Speaker 1: but it's way more embarrassing if you you wouldn't try 774 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,240 Speaker 1: and get early detection survive. 775 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 13: The actual conversation started, you know with us, you know, 776 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 13: a week after he got diagnosed, he was able to 777 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 13: sit down and tell me what was going on, tell 778 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 13: me about you know, the upcoming procedures, our family history, 779 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 13: and it enabled me to be able to talk to 780 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 13: my two boys, you know, and let them know, hey, 781 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 13: you know, this is what's going on. 782 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 8: This is you know. And I think that's the key, 783 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 8: is to be able to have the conversation. You know, 784 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 8: one and eight men are diagnosed, you know. 785 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 13: And being able to to have a survival rate that 786 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,919 Speaker 13: increases as the earlier detech is important. You know, knowing 787 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 13: your family history, even if you don't know your family history, 788 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 13: go get checked, you know, being able to. 789 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 8: To do certain things to make sure that you're there. 790 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 13: I mean, there are a lot of things that he's 791 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 13: got to be able to teach my kids, because my 792 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 13: kids don't listen to me, just like I didn't listen 793 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 13: to him. 794 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 8: It's always that skip a generation, you know. 795 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 13: I tell people we have a he has a common 796 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 13: ally with my kids. 797 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 8: They gang up on me, you know. 798 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 13: Uh, so you know he has to be around for 799 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 13: them and you know and for me when you know grandkids. 800 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 8: You know, I just had my first Yeah so oh 801 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 8: you didn't know that. Yeah, I'm no longer existed. 802 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: I just I just know that that you guys are 803 00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 1: both the black when they say black do and crack, 804 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you guys. Both and saying it's not 805 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: fair because Ken literally look the same as when we 806 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: played and the same like this is I'm you guys 807 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: are stuck in a time warp, but I'm not so 808 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: I had no idea, So congratulations. 809 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 8: But yeah, but this is just about. 810 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 13: You know, early detection, I mean being able to have conversations. 811 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 13: I mean that is probably the key to a successful 812 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 13: outcome is you know, not be embarrassed. I think you know, 813 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 13: as men were supposed to be tough and you know, 814 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 13: don't do this, don't do that, don't say nothing. And 815 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 13: you know, for him to open up really showed me 816 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 13: that I can open up to my kids. And I 817 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 13: think that's the most one of the most important thing 818 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,280 Speaker 13: is to be able to open up the family and 819 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 13: and make sure that it's an easy conversation. 820 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 2: King King Jr. 821 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,399 Speaker 1: Absolute honor I think should depend for having allowing us 822 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: to have you guys on. And this is an incredible campaign. 823 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: Thank mir guests, Thank you. It's Doug Gottlieb Show here 824 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. 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Okay, 840 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 1: so we've all done the Maya copas and we're wrong, 841 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: and Kyle Raley's. 842 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 2: Kept it going. 843 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,919 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is getting the attention it deserves, right, 844 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,240 Speaker 1: Like to me, there's all kinds of. 845 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 2: Records, you know, I think. 846 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us grew to have a 847 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: resistance towards records or towards first of its kind with 848 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: the Lebron James era, right because he's been playing so 849 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: long and because like Lebron James is the first ever 850 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,280 Speaker 1: player blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, 851 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: and like, I get it, he's awesome, but it's not 852 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: really it's like we can create it's like created records. 853 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: This is not a created record. Cal Ray is a catcher. 854 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: Catchers don't perform nearly as well in the second half 855 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: seasons the first half season. He also plays in a ballpark, 856 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: which is the hardest it, majorly baseball. They hit a 857 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: home run in and he's got fitty home runs as 858 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 1: a catcher, which you're not supposed to be able to do. 859 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: And it's not like Baseball just started keeping these stats. 860 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: Granted they didn't start playing one hundred and sixty two 861 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 1: games until you know, I don't know, forty years ago, okay, 862 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,879 Speaker 1: But regardless of how many games they played, no one 863 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 1: who played catcher hit this many home runs. This is 864 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: a Again, I'm going to I have no reason to 865 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: believe otherwise. So this is a drug free, unbelievable season 866 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: from a player who plays a position that traditionally wears 867 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 1: you down, and he end up playing in a place 868 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: which is hard to do. What he's doing and yet 869 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: he's accomplishing all of it, and he's the first to 870 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: do it in a sport which has gone for over 871 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty years, and they've kept stats of it, 872 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: like Jase do Am, I over selling how big this 873 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: record is, how biggest number is. 874 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 7: You're not You're not over selling it at all. And 875 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 7: I was just kind of looking this up as you 876 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 7: were talking to make sure I got this right. He's 877 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 7: played thirty one games at d H this year. To 878 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 7: your point, most catchers haven't been good enough hitters to 879 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 7: be DH through the history of whenever they whenever the 880 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 7: American League said they're going to bastardize the game, and 881 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 7: uh interjected the designated hitter. I want to say the 882 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 7: early seventies, Isaac so but no catcher has deserved to 883 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 7: spend his off days as a designated hitter. This is 884 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 7: kind of a recent thing, he said. Over forty home 885 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 7: runs now as a catcher, being a catcher on the 886 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 7: lineup and hitting forty home runs, that's by far the 887 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 7: big the the most that anyone's ever hit. As someone 888 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 7: who taught myself how to switch hit, and again, the 889 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 7: furthest I ever played was Juco summer tryouts. That was 890 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 7: the furthest I ever got until the world told me 891 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 7: I couldn't play anymore. But I taught myself on a 892 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 7: switch hit so have a I have a unique appreciation 893 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 7: for switch hitters. I love switch hitters and the fact 894 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 7: that he has been able to do something that only 895 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 7: Mickey Mantle has ever done, hit at least fifty home 896 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 7: runs in a season as a switch hitter. I mean, 897 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 7: it's remarkable what he's doing. And if he didn't play 898 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 7: in Seattle, I think he would get more attention. I 899 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 7: think that's his problem. The Mariners are kind of like 900 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 7: a I felt this with each a row. It's just 901 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 7: like they're a team, but they just they kind of 902 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 7: largely get ignored by a national media. 903 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 1: I would say that's completely true, completely true. But I 904 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 1: also think that part of the Mariners thing makes it 905 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 1: more impressive because that ballpark is hard to hit home 906 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: runs out of, you know, first of its kind in 907 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball at a position that's really hard. 908 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 2: It's crazy