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Speaker 2: I know when to pass. You were favorable on some

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Speaker 2: of President Trump's economic policies and light of the most

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Speaker 2: recent loss, if you could reflect, are the things you

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Speaker 2: think he could have done better with the economy that

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Speaker 2: could have been more favorable for African Americans in a

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Speaker 2: general United States public?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a great question. Moment

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Speaker 3: I say this is twenty nineteen, when we went into

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Speaker 3: the COVID in twenty twenty one. Reasons why we were

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Speaker 3: able to believe it or not be the leading economy

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Speaker 3: in the world through COVID, and even coming out of

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Speaker 3: COVID was because we had the strongest economy going into COVID.

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Speaker 3: So I actually celebrate the success that we had going

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Speaker 3: into COVID in twenty nineteen when I think there's a

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Speaker 3: really good chance to reflect on three years of President

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Speaker 3: Trump's leadership economically, there's no doubt that one must conclude,

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Speaker 3: at least from my perspective. One we can always disagree.

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Speaker 3: He created seven million new jobs in that time that era,

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Speaker 3: and two thirds of those jobs went to women and minorities.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't just African Americans who saw the lowest unemployment

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Speaker 3: rate in the history of the country. Spanish did as well.

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Speaker 3: Women did not. They saw seventy year a lot, but

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Speaker 3: not the lois. Wages at the bottom grew faster than

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Speaker 3: wages at the top. That is an unusual reality driven

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Speaker 3: by the ability to open up a more inclusive economy

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Speaker 3: that I helped design. Frankly, and I take a lot

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Speaker 3: of personal pride in being the leading Republican on the

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Speaker 3: Banking Committee now and they han't been on the Finance

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Speaker 3: the success I like to celebrate the success that I'm

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Speaker 3: intimately familiar with, the HBCU funding that came through President Trump,

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Speaker 3: the canceling of HBCU debt came through President Trump, the

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Speaker 3: permanent funding for the first time not done by a

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Speaker 3: former president, but done by President Trump. During that time,

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Speaker 3: Certainly I brought so many of those issues to them,

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Speaker 3: including opportunity zones. But those things were successes that we saw.

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Speaker 3: And frankly, if you look back at the statistics and

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Speaker 3: the polls from the African American community, not about President Trump,

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Speaker 3: but about the state of play economically at that time,

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Speaker 3: you'll see very consistently that our community was celebrating a

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Speaker 3: lot of the resourcing that we saw coming in. And

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Speaker 3: we see the exact opposite since twenty twenty one, when

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Speaker 3: we saw inflation raging so high that the average family

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Speaker 3: is today still paying one thousand dollars more per month

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Speaker 3: for the same basic necessities that they were experiencing up

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Speaker 3: until twenty twenty. In twenty twenty and so, I think

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Speaker 3: when you see the comparisons, it's kind of hard to

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Speaker 3: argue around the success of those years that we had.

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Speaker 3: You can talk about a lot of other issues, but

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Speaker 3: economically and frankly, the first time we saw criminal justice

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Speaker 3: reform past was a coalition of like minded thinkers to

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Speaker 3: include President Trump's team that allowed us to finish the

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Speaker 3: First Step Act to try to break what is one

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Speaker 3: of the most challenging and persistent problems in the criminal

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Speaker 3: justice system, which is recidivism. Recidivism on the federal level

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Speaker 3: is over seventy percent in five years, which means that

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Speaker 3: the communities with returning citizen formerly incarcerated is going to

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Speaker 3: will be in greater jeopardy if we don't understand the

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Speaker 3: three primary challenges of those who are incarcerated mental health issues,

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Speaker 3: employment issues, and education issues. By addressing those three things

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Speaker 3: in the First Step Act, you see the ability to

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Speaker 3: break the back of recidivism, which means a few crimes

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Speaker 3: committed when the returning person goes home, and healthier, more

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Speaker 3: progressive community at large. And so those were some of

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Speaker 3: the successes that we could not get done until we

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Speaker 3: had someone willing to go the extra mile on those issues.

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Speaker 3: So I think from a policy state endpoint, whether it's

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Speaker 3: criminal justice reform, whether it's economically, and whether it's education,

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Speaker 3: three the major landmarks that suggest success within a community,

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Speaker 3: a community be called America, not just the African American community.

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Speaker 3: We saw tremendous strives in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: As a quick follow up, you don't think that the

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Speaker 2: retaliatory tariffs were a mistake that end up hearting pharmers

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Speaker 2: and businesses at scale. I'm not turning back into the corner,

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Speaker 2: but I think if we're going to be fair on

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Speaker 2: the positives, we do have to highlight there was a

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Speaker 2: misstep there and that put a lot of price and

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Speaker 2: issues on businesses at large here in the States over

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Speaker 2: the last three or four years.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I see your point. I can't. I can't.

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Speaker 3: I can't dispute the fact the tariffs have an impact,

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Speaker 3: and sometimes even you can consider a negative impact on

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Speaker 3: the community written large. With any question, I would say

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Speaker 3: that the terroriffs that were put in place, specifically the

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Speaker 3: three oh one teriffs that were put in place on China,

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Speaker 3: I would say one of the things that it resulted

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Speaker 3: in was China happen to buy another I think the

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Speaker 3: number is I'll check it when we get off there

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Speaker 3: and I'll send it to you if I'm wrong. It's about

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Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty billion dollars of additional agricultural supplies

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Speaker 3: from America, whether there's the vegetables, fruit. So one of

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Speaker 3: the things that we saw was China's they lie, cheat,

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Speaker 3: steal to include our intellectual property, and then they flood

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Speaker 3: our market with really inexpensive things that don't always work

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Speaker 3: that well. Very similar to their boat that their Belt

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Speaker 3: and Road projects that they sent throughout the poorest parts

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Speaker 3: and now those projects that they funded are now having

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Speaker 3: so many failures and flaws that those governments that they

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Speaker 3: sunk into so much debt are now coming out against

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Speaker 3: those very projects that they were thankful for at the beginning.

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Speaker 3: So I don't really have a problem with the three

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Speaker 3: oh one tariffs that were put in place, and frankly,

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Speaker 3: President Biden actually kept the tariffs in place as well,

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Speaker 3: and so I think they've had a small impact on

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Speaker 3: the average consumer in America. But we have seen, however,

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Speaker 3: that has had a impact and impact on the consumers

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Speaker 3: in America is the inflationary effect that's happened after the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one election. Twenty twenty election and the one

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Speaker 3: point nine trillion dollars the first spending bill that came

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Speaker 3: Larry Summers, who was an economist who worked for President Obama,

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Speaker 3: who said at the time, passing a two trillion dollars

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Speaker 3: COVID relief package with only one percent going towards COVID vaccines,

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Speaker 3: in less than ten percent towards COVID healthcare, I mean

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Speaker 3: one point seven trillion dollars of spending. Larry Summers, a

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Speaker 3: great economist on the left, said this is going to

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Speaker 3: be disastrous for America's economy, and then two other economists

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Speaker 3: from the Obama era came out and said, this is

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Speaker 3: a bad decision that would lead to the worst inflation

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Speaker 3: that we've seen in a generation. Of course, all the

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Speaker 3: and what we've seen since then has been a loss

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Speaker 3: of spending power of around twenty eight thousand dollars with

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Speaker 3: the average family, which only cripples the kind of households

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Speaker 3: that I grew up in. Because sixty percent increasing the

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Speaker 3: price of gas is not a problem for my mother

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Speaker 3: at the time, that would be an absolute all out

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Speaker 3: crisis for her. And so when you compare the tariff

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Speaker 3: conversation to the inflation conversation. They're not even close and

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Speaker 3: impact on the poorest Americans.

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