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Speaker 1: lot of topics to talk about. I know who's playing tonight,

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Speaker 1: a Gopher right now. I was surprised this game wasn't moved.

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Speaker 1: Patriots game a couple of weeks ago was moved to

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Speaker 1: a Sunday. But this game might be the clearest illustration

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Speaker 1: of a fact that's becoming clearer by the day. The

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Speaker 1: NFL wants to get through this season as quickly as possible.

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Speaker 1: The Niners top three wide receivers are on the reserve

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Speaker 1: COVID list, and you also have their tackle Trent Williams

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Speaker 1: on that list. Meanwhile, the Packers without their three top

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Speaker 1: running backs. And this is something that we were concerned about.

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Speaker 1: The NFL was concerned about players in the same position

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Speaker 1: group exposed to one another. Basically, the Niners might not

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Speaker 1: able to run. It was sort of like that in

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Speaker 1: the NFC title game last year. San Francisco destroyed Green

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Speaker 1: do that again. The bigger question is is it wise

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Speaker 1: to play this game in prime time with the whole

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Speaker 1: hopefully the teams can limit the spread of the virus

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Speaker 1: in their facilities and they'll probably view this as a

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Speaker 1: blip on the season, But tonight's game seems like a

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Speaker 1: challenge and possibly a bad look for the NFL. Ian

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Speaker 1: Rappaport NFL dot Com will join us coming up. Why

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Speaker 1: haven't you know? Why hasn't the NFL moved this game?

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Speaker 1: Because it feels like you have two teams at a

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Speaker 1: decided disadvantage facing each other. Maybe it's an equal disadvantage.

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Speaker 1: The Niners have been snake bitten this year. They lead

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Speaker 1: the NFL in player games missed to injury. Now, this

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Speaker 1: is even before OVID most games missed due to injury.

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Speaker 1: These are the player games missed San Francisco leading. It's

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Speaker 1: not even close one and twenty four games missed by

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Speaker 1: that have had the fewest games missed due to player injury,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins are of the best team and the healthiest team.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers then next, and then the Atlanta Falcons. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so the Falcons can't even plame injury. Usually if you say, well,

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Speaker 1: We'll get them next year. Falcons can't even pull that one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got ahead of myself though. Let me go through

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Speaker 1: Will have a poll question. We got a stat of

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Speaker 1: the day play of the day coming up. You have

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford on the COVID list, but it's it's a

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Speaker 1: different It's a list that I didn't even know existed.

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Speaker 1: Do you have the official designation of Matthew Stafford's COVID list.

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Speaker 1: That eats on because it's he kind of came in

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Speaker 1: also came in contact with somebody. Yes, Polly, this is

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Speaker 1: a weird. One person who's been quarantined after been in

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Speaker 1: That's is a lot of hyphens. Dan high risk close contact,

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Speaker 1: non team member. That's three hyphens one sentence. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you and Rappaport about what's going on. All the

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Speaker 1: that one Texans player has tested positive. In consultation with

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Speaker 1: close down the facility. That's all all the information that

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Speaker 1: I in Rappaport has right now. Yes, point now, we

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Speaker 1: all want my Matthew Stafford to play. Y'all want everyone

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Speaker 1: start on Sunday, do you know who would chase Daniel? Oh?

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Speaker 1: The eclipse is what I call Chase Daniel the Cicada.

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Speaker 1: Chacada Daniel. What's that lunar eclipse? Daniel? Yeah, the greatest

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Speaker 1: Should the NFL play the game tonight? Yes or no?

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Speaker 1: How do you think people would vote? Well? I want

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Speaker 1: kind of in this capacity. You know, you still have

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Speaker 1: to see Aaron Rodgers Davante Adams, but I would like

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Speaker 1: and it's not going to happen because of the injuries,

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Speaker 1: but I'd like to know has Green Bay answered any

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Speaker 1: questions from last year's title game when they got blown

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Speaker 1: you know, the green Bay Packers throats. Green Bay's not

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Speaker 1: stopping anybody on the run. I would I would move

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Speaker 1: it because of the positive test. The injuries you can't

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Speaker 1: do anything about, but just the look of it, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't look good for the NFL like we're gonna we're

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Speaker 1: gonna play this game. Okay, play the game, where in

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Speaker 1: other situations they've moved games. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: this gets worse. I think later in the season it does,

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Speaker 1: because I do think there will be maybe a carelessness

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Speaker 1: they're not in the playoff chase, and you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: I want to go out now. It's been a long year,

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Speaker 1: bad year, and you're probably gonna have some looser restrictions

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Speaker 1: maybe have to add a week to get in these games. Yeah, Pauling,

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Speaker 1: close to game time on a Thursday, let's keep it

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Speaker 1: They're thinking right now. The playoffs and Super Bowls seem

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Speaker 1: and we may have to have a few ugly nights

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Speaker 1: like Thursday night to get to there. But this is

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Speaker 1: a marquee game now. Even while without Garoppolo in there,

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Speaker 1: you still the forty nine ers have no wide receivers

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that I know that you've got, you know,

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Speaker 1: about that coming up. Guess McLevin, Yeah, but are you

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Speaker 1: pushing back and pushing back and run out of time. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I mean they played Thursday Night last week.

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Speaker 1: It just this happens. You have an alternative plan and

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Speaker 1: you've used it before. It's not like you go and

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Speaker 1: we don't move Thursday games. Fox spend too much money.

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Speaker 1: We don't move those games. You've moved the game, and

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Speaker 1: it seems like that that be the smarter choice for

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Speaker 1: I want to be traveling to San Francisco? No, I don't. Yeah, Pauling,

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Speaker 1: why don't we just have a couple of Mac teams

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Speaker 1: something goes squirrely? You know, get bowling Green out there

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Speaker 1: national spotlight we're gonna have from football. Yeah. I watched

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Speaker 1: a lot of action last night. It was fun. It

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Speaker 1: football tonight. Utah State, Nevada, Wyoming in Colorado State. Money

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Speaker 1: wins out in the NBA. The NBA is going to

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Speaker 1: start December twenty second as opposed to January thirteenth, and

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Speaker 1: We should have more time off, and we're gonna start

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Speaker 1: December twenty second. The NBA is all in on those

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Speaker 1: Christmas Day games. That's important to them, and really that's

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Speaker 1: I always thought that down the road, will they start,

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Speaker 1: and if you're going to reduce the let's say eighty

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Speaker 1: players are not going to stand for that. But it

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Speaker 1: looks like December twenty second is when the NBA will

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Speaker 1: officially start. Yes, mclovin, is that amazing? In less than

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Speaker 1: two months, we'll see LaMelo Ball in an NBA jersey play.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna see him play the draft. Is that's so

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Speaker 1: close to the season. I don't know if many NBA

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Speaker 1: fans are going, God, I can't wait for LaMelo Ball

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Speaker 1: to be in a uniform. You're not curious. I think

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Speaker 1: it's right now. I've seen him. I know what his

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Speaker 1: He's wildly entertaining and talented, and he shoots a little

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Speaker 1: He shoots a sutshot from forty five feet away. It's

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Speaker 1: it's releases by his hip. Yep, not good. You know,

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Speaker 1: He has that. He this is how he started, and

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Speaker 1: he still shoots that with a little stuff. Curious though,

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Speaker 1: too very little stuff. Curier. Isn't that like very You

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Speaker 1: know you were saying he was about shoot? Yes, doesn't

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Speaker 1: he shoot the second he comes over half court just

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Speaker 1: like Trey Young and he's gonna shoot forty Three's a game.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he should be shooting. And if he's

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Speaker 1: going to Minnesota, I can't imagine that Carl Anthony Towns

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Speaker 1: wait to see LaMelo Ball play basketball. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: anxious to see it, interested to see how it works.

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Speaker 1: And who wants him, but the Olden State Warriors do.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious about all those things. I wonder what Lebron

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Speaker 1: does for the first month of the season. I don't know, now,

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Speaker 1: certainly see that, Yeah, see, you gotta be rehabbing a thigh.

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Speaker 1: Indrian Cabo, I think the first month of this season, well,

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Speaker 1: the Peacock Act. The Cowboys haven't covered the spread in

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport. You sound like me trying to talk sports. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: last five years, winning Super Bowls, going to a Super Bowl, losing,

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Speaker 1: going to the AFC title game? What is he saying

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Speaker 1: and who is he saying it too? I liked it,

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Speaker 1: and I know that he's getting some criticism. I've read it.

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Speaker 1: I appreciated it because one, when Bill Belichick talks the

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Speaker 1: business of football, there's nobody better. So I like the

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Speaker 1: fact that he's actually instead of like monosyllabic answers after

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Speaker 1: a press corvents, I like the fact that he's actually explaining, right,

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Speaker 1: like we asked these guys questions. You want an answer.

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Speaker 1: It could theoretically come out as defensive. I just if

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Speaker 1: it's defensive and explaining, I will take the explaining part.

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Speaker 1: I think he's right because last year they did spend

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Speaker 1: right up to the top in cash. I also think

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Speaker 1: they you know, this is a year where they got

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Speaker 1: they had no space, literally none. All they could afford

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Speaker 1: was a you know, cam Newton one billion dollars plus contract,

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Speaker 1: and then they got a little cap room due to

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Speaker 1: some settlements, including the Aeron Hernanda settlement. Then they had

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Speaker 1: all the opt outs and now they have a ton

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Speaker 1: of cap space, but nobody has spended on So they

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00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: lost the players, couldn't replace them because you know who

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Speaker 1: you're gonna who are gonna spend the money on. There's

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Speaker 1: nobody out there. So it's an actual rebuilding year for

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, which they've never had. And they'll clear all

447
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Speaker 1: the cap space and next year probably kind of start

448
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Speaker 1: new and we'll see what happens at quarterback, but potentially

449
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Speaker 1: the new quarterback as well. Yeah, I can't imagine Cam

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Speaker 1: is back unless we see a drastic turnaround here. It

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Speaker 1: feels like they've already you know, they have their opinion

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Speaker 1: on Jared Stidham. Now you got to either go in

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Speaker 1: the draft or free agency. What kind of possibilities are

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Speaker 1: out there for the Patriots to find another franchise quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we'll see what the record ends up being.

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Speaker 1: I'm of the opinion that the Patriots are always to

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Speaker 1: be fine, so I'd be surprised at this point if

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Speaker 1: they are not, Like eight and eight, seven to nine,

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Speaker 1: because they're always they're always fine, right, But we'll see.

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Speaker 1: But if they have a high draft pick, could definitely

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Speaker 1: take a quarterback. I mean, that's that's something we have

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Speaker 1: not seen for real, for real since Jimmy Garoppolo, and

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Speaker 1: that was a late too. So I think we could

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Speaker 1: see that. The options if they don't take one in

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Speaker 1: the draft, there's not a ton of them, but Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold would be potentially one, depending on how the Jets

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Speaker 1: would do. Now that would take the Jets trading their

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Speaker 1: former franchise quarterback to the Patriots. Yeah, I guess we've

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Speaker 1: seen crazier things, but you know, I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And then you know the rest of the guys, you're

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Speaker 1: looking at our franchise guys who may not be in

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Speaker 1: a great place for their team. Matt Ryan probably stays,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins contractually probably stays, Philip rivers Is towards the

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Speaker 1: back end, I mean, there's just not a lot of

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Speaker 1: trade options. The one that I think we'll get all

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Speaker 1: of us talking is Jimmy Garoppolo because if you know,

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Speaker 1: if he's that could be a win win for both

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Speaker 1: that Kyle Shanahan gets his quarterback, whoever that is, if

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Speaker 1: it's Matt Ryan or Kirk d cousins um and then

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Speaker 1: Bill who loves him some Jimmy Garoppolo can get Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: back and that might be his franchise quarterback. I thought

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Speaker 1: about that, and I think that's one thing you'll hear

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Speaker 1: a lot is is Jimmy Garoppolo going back to the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that gives me a little pause about

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Speaker 1: that is he didn't play a lot for the Patriots, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: he only played I think two games. He was in

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Speaker 1: the building for a while, and when Belichick called the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers about trading for him, he said, okay,

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Speaker 1: I think a two is about right. So he valued

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Speaker 1: him as a second round pick back then, which to me,

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Speaker 1: he's a quarterback getting traded for a two. That if

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Speaker 1: he thought he was a franchise quarterback, no matter what,

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Speaker 1: he would have said, we need a one for this guy.

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Speaker 1: That's my only thing that gives me pause about him

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Speaker 1: reuniting with the Patriots still could make sense. I'm just

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Speaker 1: I'm just kind of curious about that part of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know what was going on behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: If you know Brady wanted him out, and Bill had

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Speaker 1: to make that decision of do I bet on the

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Speaker 1: future do I bet on the president? And he wanted

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Speaker 1: to keep Tom, keep Tom happy, and therefore, hey, if

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Speaker 1: I hold out for a one, I might not get

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Speaker 1: that one. I know I can get the two. I can.

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Speaker 1: I can put him in you know, great hands with

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan in the forty nine ers. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It felt like that that was Belichick doing Garoppolo a

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Speaker 1: favor and doing Tom Brady a favor as well. That's

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Speaker 1: a really good point. I mean, because if he says,

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Speaker 1: all right, I need a one, then he might just

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Speaker 1: not be able to trade him. And I think the

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Speaker 1: point of that for Belichick standpoint is just to get

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Speaker 1: a good, clean deal done rather than like yeah, haggle

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Speaker 1: back like just is it two? Do you want it?

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Speaker 1: Yes or no? They did do Garoppolo a favor by

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Speaker 1: sending him to a great place. All that is true.

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Speaker 1: I think looking back now, you know whether or not

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Speaker 1: Brady actually really wanted him out. I've never proved I've

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Speaker 1: heard the suggestion. I've just never proven it. I've never

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Speaker 1: had anyone right on the inside say yes, Brady wanted

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Speaker 1: him out. I just think for the Patriots, once Brady

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Speaker 1: stopped aging, once he's basically was like, I'm gonna play

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Speaker 1: till forty five and I'm still gonna be good, then

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Speaker 1: their only way to get real value was to trade him.

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Speaker 1: Then that's that's they headed their bets by keeping Groppel

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Speaker 1: for half a season. They were like, the only we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get value trade him. Now we have to do it.

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Speaker 1: That's my recollection of how it happened. What's the deal

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Speaker 1: at the trade deadline that should have gotten done? I

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Speaker 1: think Will Fuller probably should have gotten done. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's an electric talent. He's not always been on the field,

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Speaker 1: but when he is, he's awesome. Packers could use a

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Speaker 1: big play receiver to kind of take them over the top.

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Speaker 1: The Texans wanted to two. If the Packers came to

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Speaker 1: the Texans right at the deadline and said, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Dante Fowler deal, will do it for three and

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Speaker 1: a five, that is a tough decision to turn I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's a tough pick to turn down, right, So I

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Speaker 1: don't I just don't know that it ever really got

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Speaker 1: to that. And I thought from where both sides stood

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Speaker 1: that they should have come together and done a deal.

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Speaker 1: Was JJ Watt ever in play now? I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, those are deals made by owners,

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00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: not well, they don't even have a GM right now,

544
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: but they don't have a not interim people. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's not a deal done by Jack Easterby, who's kind

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00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: of filling in and running football, and those are done

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Speaker 1: by owners. I never got the sense the owner would

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00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: trade him, and I never got the sense JJ was like,

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00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: you need to trade me. I think he wants to

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00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: be there. He would just like the football team to

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Speaker 1: be better. Is Michael Thomas playing Sunday night against the

552
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: Buccaneers so looking that way? Not for sure for sure,

553
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: because we did this two weeks ago and then he

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00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: pulled a hamstring and in warm ups and then didn't

555
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: play for two weeks. But ankle's fine hamstring is getting better.

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00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: Sounds like Emmanuel Sanders is probably back, so we will

557
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: actually see the Saints team as they should. But now

558
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: they've still won games, they just haven't looked the same.

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00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: I think Michael Thomas is probably back Sunday. Yeah, it

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00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: feels like there's more to this story there. There There

561
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: has been a lot there. Um, I would say it

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00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: has not always been. There's not always been kumbaya. There's

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00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: been you know, when you have a fighting practice and

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00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: punch of teammate, Um, there's some feathers that get ruffled,

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00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: along with faces or whatever, assuming unless he was wearing

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Speaker 1: a helmet, which whatever, there's anyway, Um yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I think behind the scenes there definitely has been some

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Speaker 1: conversation and potentially some some things that needed to be settled,

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Speaker 1: but I never got the sense it was something that

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Speaker 1: was insurmountable. Ian. Thanks for joining us. We know you

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Speaker 1: have a busy week and we'll be watching this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. All right, I always happen to

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Speaker 1: hang with you. Take care. Thanks for listening to The

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Speaker 1: damp Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live

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00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine

576
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us

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00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live

578
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: on the Peacock app. This caught my attention. Sham's Sharania.

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00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: He is a great NBA insider. He says that quote,

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Speaker 1: I'm told Philadelphia is expected to be interested in and

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00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: pursue James Harden Now there's a report that Harden moving

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00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: from Houston or Houston would move on from him is

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00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: currently a non starter. And then I started to think, well,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to get hardened Ben Simmons and Joe

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00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: lmb If you're Houston and I said, you could have

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons and throw in somebody else for James Harden,

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Speaker 1: would you do that Philadelphia? I get why they would

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Speaker 1: want to do this, but Rivers just got there and

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00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: I thought all along, Doc just wanted to see those

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Speaker 1: two together, Ben Simmons, Joe l embiid and see what

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Speaker 1: they could do with that roster. Now they're in cap

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Speaker 1: purgatory because I think Tobias Harris makes almost as much

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Speaker 1: as James Harden does. That's a problem. Tobias Harris nice player.

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Speaker 1: James Harden is a first ballot Hall of Famer. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you said I could trade Tobias Harris for James Harden,

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Speaker 1: I would do that right now. But you got to

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Speaker 1: dump some salary here. You got Al Horford at a

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Speaker 1: hundred million. I forgot about that. Yes, yes, the Al

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Speaker 1: Horford deal. But if I if I'm Doc Rivers and

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Speaker 1: I could bring James Harden to the East with Joe lmbid.

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Speaker 1: It's weird because when you play with Harden, you watch

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Speaker 1: Harden a lot, and I don't know if Joe lmbiid

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Speaker 1: is going to be keen on that Ben Simmons doesn't shoot.

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Speaker 1: It almost feels like Ben Simmons and James Harden to me,

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Speaker 1: makes more sense. One shoots, one doesn't. One is a slasher.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Ben Simmons can get to the rim. He's

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Speaker 1: a good defensive player. I would get rid of Joe

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Speaker 1: lmbiad and I would keep Ben Simmons if I could

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Speaker 1: get James Harden. Now, I don't know if Houston went

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Speaker 1: entertained that. If I'm Houston, we're not gonna win anything,

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Speaker 1: but you know we still have a team that people

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Speaker 1: are interested in watching. James Harden is must see TV.

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Speaker 1: The problem is you can't trade Russell Westbrook Junior the

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Speaker 1: third because that contract and his age. He still can't shoot,

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Speaker 1: and in today's NBA now he's a liability. He wants

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Speaker 1: to shoot, where Ben Simmons doesn't want to shoot. The

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Speaker 1: problem is Russ he thinks he can shoot. And if

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Speaker 1: I have if I have James Harden and Ben Simmons,

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Speaker 1: I know Ben will be. He'll do other things and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have to handle the ball. He can and

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Speaker 1: he is great. You know, if you get him full court,

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Speaker 1: he goes downhill, he can get to the hoop, and

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Speaker 1: I would just say, look, I want you to concentrate

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Speaker 1: on doing all these other things. Now. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Houston trades James Harden. I wouldn't. But if I can

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Speaker 1: get Joe ellenbid and something, I guess I would entertain it.

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Speaker 1: But you can't trade Westbrook. But the fact that Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: is expected to be interested in and pursue James Harden

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Speaker 1: the we're interested in, but now you're pursuing that got

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Speaker 1: my attention. With Cham's with his report, Yeampauli Al Horford's

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Speaker 1: thirty four years old, the forward for the seventy six ers.

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Speaker 1: He's averaging about eleven and seven. Yeah, guess what he's

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Speaker 1: getting paid next four seasons? Twenty eight million, twenty eight million,

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Speaker 1: twenty eight million, twenty eight million guaranteed, no way out.

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Speaker 1: What is Tobias Harris making? Does he make like thirty

636
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year? Yeah? But I think that

637
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: Sixers view embiad is the untouchable. I don't think they

638
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: would do MBID for Harden because like he's one of

639
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: the most talented big men ever, Like there's something there,

640
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, SI scare's something there. But I know what

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00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: I get with James Harden. I don't know what I

642
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Speaker 1: have with Joe ll embad because there are games where

643
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: you go, God, is he talented? But it just feels

644
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: like each week I'm seeing a different Joe l Embiid.

645
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure, and I don't think he I

646
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: don't know if he gets along with Ben Simmons. I

647
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: don't want to say he doesn't, but it feels like

648
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: there's a lack of chemistry there. And if I have

649
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: embiid in Houston, but then I don't know how Westbrook

650
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: would would react to something like that, because you know,

651
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: they went all in to get Westbrook in Houston. They

652
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: traded away their future to get Westbrook there. Yeah, the Sixers,

653
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: Tobias Harris next four seasons thirty three million, thirty six million,

654
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: thirty nine million, forty one million guaranteed. Isn't it amazing

655
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Speaker 1: that the NBA has this deal or had these deals

656
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: where you have guys that you would not watch if

657
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Speaker 1: they were playing in your driveway. Oh, you wouldn't you

658
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: you wouldn't. Is it raining out? No? Okay, May, I'd

659
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: probably watch if Tobias Harris was in my driveway, if

660
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: he was shooting hoops in your driveway uniform? Yes? Is

661
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: there anything else on TV? Mac Ma foot good point

662
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: you take a peek for a couple of minutes. I

663
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: would just look the blinders, I would. I would just

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Speaker 1: take a peek see his shooting for him. That's yet.

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00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: Other than that, I met his dad, you know, had

666
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: had a set down to drink with his dad. Didn't

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Speaker 1: know it was his dad, And we're watching when we're

668
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: in the Los Angeles, I'm at the bar, and all

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00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden he's in there watching his son, you know,

670
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 1: on TV. And we struck up conversation. And I really

671
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: liked him with the Clippers, but I don't really like him.

672
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: For thirty eight forty million dollars, crazy to Bias Harris

673
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Speaker 1: or throw out any of these guys. John Wall, for

674
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: God's sakes, is gonna make forty seven million dollars. I think,

675
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Speaker 1: what is that next year? If John Wall was in

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Speaker 1: the man Cave right now and said, you want to

677
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: shoot some hoops? I don't know if I would just

678
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: a little pick up. No, yes, now you're not being truthful.

679
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: That's not true. I would go out just to see

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00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: a shooting for him, and that's it. You'd tell him.

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00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: I would critique it. You know, your handles are a

682
00:37:54,200 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: little spiny, but these salaries are crazy. Yeah. Mcloban, you're

683
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: the only one. You always always talked about Tobias Harris

684
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: back when he was I tranked him when he was

685
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: if I could get him for twelve million dollars. I

686
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: really loved Tobias Harris. You came in the morning. I

687
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: was like, you mean Gary Harris. I was like, I

688
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: didn't even know who you're talking about. He's gonna if

689
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: you say he is paid thirty eight million dollars, at

690
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: some point it's gonna be eighteen percent less of that

691
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: thirty eight million. Now it's more of a bargain. Yeah, yes, yes,

692
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: isn't the face of it? Always Alan Krabb though, you know,

693
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: poor Alan Krab. He's a new John koncak Ye. Yes, bully,

694
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: Chris Paul is making thirty eight million this upcoming season,

695
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Speaker 1: thirty eight million. I know he's still a good player. Uh.

696
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: Kyle Lowry's making thirty five, Blake Griffin's making thirty five mil.

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00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: Tobias Harris is the tenth highest paid player in the

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Speaker 1: entire NBA. He makes more than Jimmy Butler, Kawhi, Leonard,

699
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: Clay Thompson, Gordon Hayward's making thirty three million. Oh, it's

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00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 1: just Paul Millsap's making thirty one million. I mean it's

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00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: it's incredible. And I know you you have this TV

702
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: deal and you only have to pay a certain number

703
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: of players, and that's why you have these exorbitant salaries.

704
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: Man Otto Porter Junior's making twenty nine million, and rightfully,

705
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: so can you tell me what team he's on? Wenting

706
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: out a wizard? That's always by the way, Al Kraft

707
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: made eighteen point five last year. I know he's a

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Speaker 1: margin and at eighteen million dollars a year, I don't

709
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: think it's a team now though. Just the man that's

710
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: what what is John Wall gonna make at the end

711
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: of this uh salary or this contract? Forty seven million

712
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: dollars a year? I think that's correct. He's two years

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00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: away from here. Harrison Barnes has made a solid living

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Speaker 1: for himself. If Harrison Barnes was outside shooting hoops. I

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00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: would not go outside, fair and just I wouldn't no offense,

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00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: no offense, Yeah, no offense, Yeah, no offense. You're just

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00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: saying you wouldn't walk fifty feet to watch. No. No No, oh,

718
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: you thought I said no offense. It was no offense.

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00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: Big difference there. Yes, me club Harrison Barnes, I would think,

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00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: is he a Maverick? Now? That guy jumps around a lot.

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Speaker 1: Let's play the Harrison Barnes even more. Anonymous. Okay, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I want to guess Sacramento. I was gonna say, sac

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Speaker 1: Is that where he is? Still? Okay? Because I watched

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00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: my Sacramento Kings give you a good stout eighteen and seven.

725
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: I even watched the Sacramento Kings, and I didn't remember

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00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: Harrison Barnes being on the Sacramento Kings. Yes, Ton, if

727
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: he has you to shoot around right outside the now,

728
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: I'm good. You'd say maybe some other time. Who knows

729
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: what he's gonna be back in town to the Connecticut area.

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00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: If I haven't gotten my nap, then no, I'm not

731
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: gonna go outside and play. But but if you how

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00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: many players would you truly sit and watch in a game?

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00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: If I said you got to watch a game. How

734
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: many players would you do that in the NBA? Yeah? See,

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00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: Am I already in the city or do I have

736
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 1: to travel to it? No, you're just watching on TV.

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00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: Are you just watching on TV? Yeah, I'll make it

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Speaker 1: easy on you. When I turned the TV on, is

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00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: the channel already on that game? Or is it on

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00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: another game? I have to switch channels. No, it's there

741
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: for you. So you turn the TV on, it's already on.

742
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: Now you have to choose to turn away from it. Yes,

743
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: am I allowed to go one time through the channels

744
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: and then come back. No, I can't go through the guide. No.

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00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 1: Early season, I would like to watch an entire game

746
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: of Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant with the Nets. Okay,

747
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: that would be my If there was all the games

748
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: on for the first day of the NBA season and

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00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: that was one of the games, that's a game I

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00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: would lock on. Okay, But how many players would you

751
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: actually tune in to watch a game? Yes? I wait,

752
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: nobody in this room watched Kyrie with what team was

753
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: you on? Last year? Where he played like thirty games

754
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: with the nets? Like he's not a mustoon After the

755
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: those two together. The most boring guy there is. He's

756
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: not must watch either. He's at eighteen foot jumper. I

757
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: wat Zion left, all Zion all day. Okay, okay, so

758
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 1: Zion is one we can all agree on that. Luca

759
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: Dunn Chick. The return is Jeff Curry. James Harden. Now

760
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: you gotta watch the game, the whole game. Oh no, no, no,

761
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: James Harden. I know if I watched the first two minutes,

762
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: I've seen the whole game. Twenty seven foul shots. Okay,

763
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: I'd rather watch videos of James Harden dancing on the

764
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: bench than I would. Actually, that's a lot of How

765
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: about Trey Young? Anybody interested? Yes? Time? I like Trey

766
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: Any love for Jamal Murray and Donovan Mitchell after what

767
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: they did in the bubble, or you're not going to

768
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: spend the time, not a whole game. Donovan Mitchell really

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00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: good player. I'm not watching the whole game. Yeah, you're

770
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: gonna watch LaMelo. I'm telling everyone they're gonna watch LaMelo

771
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: because of his dad and all the hype and ESPN

772
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: is gonna turn him into a star. Okay, they couldn't

773
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: turn Lonzo into a star. But he's different than Lonzo.

774
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: He's been famous for a long time. But why would

775
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: you watch the kid because of his dad, because he's

776
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, but they're gonna have a camera

777
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: on his dad while the kids you can see them

778
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: at the same name awareness. I mean, I'd be curious

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00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: to start the season with Lamello. I will be Yeah.

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00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: Point the problem with LaMelo Ball he's kind of the

781
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: opposite of Zion. Zion we saw thirty one national TV

782
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: games at Duke and he became branded what he could

783
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: do Now, I want to see this at the next level.

784
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball is a guy who's more mystery. He's playing

785
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: in Lithuania against uh, you know, a bunch of guys.

786
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: No one's seen him play except for YouTube. So it's

787
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: he's different. He's a mystery, but it's not He's not

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00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: hot like Zion was. Yeah, I mean Zion was already established.

789
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: He was a brand before he got to the NBA. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: mclov Lamello has five point six million Instagram followers. Well great,

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00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 1: I mean it's huge. He's an international star already. Okay,

792
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, and he's got the name. When

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00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: you see an international star, will he be a national star?

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00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but dame another. No, one's gotta

795
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: tuted for Anthony Edwards. No, they're not, or James Wiseman.

796
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: But but I was. You know, we were talking about

797
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: established player. I'll turn in. I'll tune in to see

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00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: Lebron Lebron, definitely. I don't turn into tune in to

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Speaker 1: see Kawai. Kawai's boring. Yes, ton, Jimmy Butler not a

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Speaker 1: whole game, Yes, no, I would tune in. I would.

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Speaker 1: I would include his entire team. I loved watching the

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00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,479
Speaker 1: Heat this year, and I would that might be played

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00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: out right now. I got moved on Tyler, Hero and

804
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson, Gore drog Bam out of Bio. I like

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00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: the whole team. But no, I'm not tuning in to

806
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: see Jimmy Butler. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick

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Speaker 1: the Peacock Act. You got the game coming up tonight.

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Speaker 1: I wonder why it's being played, but the forty nine

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Speaker 1: Ers insider for NBC Sports Bay Area will have better

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00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: answers than I do. Matt Mayoko, who's in his twenty

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Speaker 1: sixth year covering the forty nine ers, Matt, thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us. Why are they playing this game tonight? Well,

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00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: because it's the NFL, and the NFL can do whatever

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00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: the heck it wants, and they want to play football

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Speaker 1: on a Thursday night. Hey Dan, some late breaking news here.

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Speaker 1: My colleague at NBC Sports Bay Area, Jennifer lee Chan,

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Speaker 1: reports that there were no positive test results from the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers, and even the player who tested positive yesterday,

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00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne, tested negative. So those players won't be available

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Speaker 1: to play in tonight's game. Had it been a Sunday game,

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00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: they would be able to play. But that might give

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Speaker 1: you a little bit indication there too, is that they don't,

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Speaker 1: at least at this point, believe that there's some outbreak

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Speaker 1: going on with the forty nine ers. Have they been

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Speaker 1: able to practice? They had a practice win Tuesday night,

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00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: and then after the building was cleared last night, they

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00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: had a very brief walk through. So it's it's a

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Speaker 1: Thursday game, and so generally teams don't do a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of practicing before a Thursday game. But they did

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Speaker 1: their meetings on Zoom yesterday and then a very brief

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Speaker 1: get together for a walk through last night. We see

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00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: this with teams that go to the Super Bowl lose

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, there's a Super Bowl hangover. But how

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Speaker 1: do you explain what's happened to the Niners this year?

841
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: I tell you what you know, speaking from experience, I've

842
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: never had a hangover anything like what the forty nine

843
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: ers are experiencing. I mean, we're talking and I don't

844
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: know if you can put it on the Super Bowl.

845
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: I think there might have been a little bit of

846
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: a mindset, you know, going into this season of hey,

847
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: let's just get back to the Super Bowl win at

848
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: this time, which isn't really I don't think the mindset

849
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: you want. But when you're talking about you know, twelve

850
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: players on injured reserve, and those are significant players. Two

851
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: more will be going on Jimmy Garoppolo and George Kittle.

852
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: You have two players on the PUP list, four players

853
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: on the COVID nineteen list. So when you look at

854
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: the team, that's suiting up tonight, theoretically suiting up tonight

855
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: compared to the team that played the Packers in the

856
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game, it bears no resemblance. So you can't

857
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: necessarily expect, you know, a team without Richard Sherman, without

858
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, without DeForrest Buckner who was traded away, without

859
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: Garoppolo Kittle, without their top three running backs. I mean,

860
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: I could go on and on and on. You can't

861
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: expect a team like that compared to what the team

862
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: looked like last year to just pick right up and

863
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: steamroll through the NFC. So there are four and four

864
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: right now, which puts them in the race. But I

865
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: just don't know who they're gonna You know, they're gonna

866
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: be relying on Nick Mullins and Jamichael Hasty Tonight and

867
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: Ross Dwelli at tight end, a bunch of guys you've

868
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: never heard of. So you definitely need a program tonight,

869
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: even if you're a Niners fan. Yes, at some point

870
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: I will be posting like a list on Twitter of

871
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: numbers and players because I mean myself included. But there

872
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: will be a lot of fans tuning in who will

873
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: have no idea who might be touching the ball. And

874
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: another added element of this, not one player from that

875
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game who touched the ball for the forty

876
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: nine ers on offense will be suiting up tonight other

877
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: than that center, by the way, that includes the center.

878
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: When Garoppolo is good, is he great? Can he be great?

879
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: I think when he's good, he's good, you know, And

880
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: that's kind of the issue I think with him is though, Man,

881
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: you know what if you're talking about going forward for

882
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: next season with a cap that's going down, with a

883
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: salary expected to be you know, he'll be twenty five

884
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: million next year, you know, I just I don't look

885
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: at him right now. Is a player as a quarterback

886
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: who enables Kyle Shanahan to just say, oh, this is great.

887
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: He does all the things I need him to do

888
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: and more so we can put more on his plate.

889
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: To me, it's kind of I mean, just look at

890
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, where you know, he wasn't asked

891
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: to throw, and in that NFC Championship game he only

892
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: dropped back eight times. So I think there's an element

893
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: of the forty nine ers offense of running the ball,

894
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: running the ball, running the ball, and that's a lot

895
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: by necessity, because you know, I just don't know that

896
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: he's the kind of quarterback. He just put it on

897
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: his shoulders. I mean Dan Frankly at the end of

898
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen season, when he had been with the

899
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: team for just a couple of weeks and he stepped

900
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: into the lineup and played some really good football. In

901
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers had a bad team that year.

902
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: They had only had one win up to that point.

903
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 1: They ended up winning the final five games of the season.

904
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: That Jimmy Garoppolo is a heck of a lot like

905
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: them Jimmy Garoppolo that we saw last year, and even

906
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: with the healthy games this year. My point being that

907
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: with Kyle Shanahan, he would expect his quarterback to go,

908
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: like Matt Ryan, You're like good one year and then

909
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: great the next, and that maturation, that improvement we never

910
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: saw from Jimmy Garoppolo. If I said to Kyle Shanahan,

911
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: you can trade Jimmy Garoppolo straight up for Matt Ryan,

912
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: I think that deal's made. Yeah. And I'd even go

913
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: so far as to say Kirk Cousins, I mean, Kyle

914
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: likes Kirk Cousins, you know, Kyle had his mindset on

915
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins getting him as a free agent for the

916
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen season, and then Bill Belichick basically gift wrapped Garoppolo.

917
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: And I mean, Jimmy's Jimmy's a good player. He had

918
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: a good season last year, but he just he hasn't

919
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: taken that next step. And you know, some of it

920
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: you can you can place on the injury issue this year,

921
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: two different high ankle sprains. But I just don't know

922
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: that that he functions and Kyle shan Han's offense way

923
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: Shannahan wants him to function. I know you're a Pro

924
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame voter. If Antonio Brown did not

925
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: come back and play football, how would the Hall of

926
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: Fame Selection committee view Antonio Brown's career. That's a good question. Um,

927
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: you know we would, certainly I would look at it

928
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: based on who he's up against. Uh, you know, you

929
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: look at there's so many guys out there. I wouldn't

930
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't consider him a slam dunk. But I don't

931
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: know that you know we would as a group. Well,

932
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: I should only speak for myself. I wouldn't look at

933
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: any of the off the field stuff and the craziness

934
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: that's happened over the past couple of years. He's a

935
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 1: heck of a player, but you're not supposed to factor

936
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: that in. No, no, you're not. You could factor it

937
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: in from the sense that he left a lot of football,

938
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, on his couch because he didn't make himself

939
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: available to play because of off the field stuff. I

940
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: think that that's an area, a little bit of a

941
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: gray area there. But quitting on a team, I mean,

942
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: I understand, and you guys have a tough job. I

943
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: get it, but you know, like t O Michael Irvin,

944
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, when you do things off the field that

945
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: affects your team on the field, then I have to

946
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: account for that. Yeah, And I think you could make

947
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: that same argument with Antonio Brown, right, that he's done

948
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: stuff that has affected teams. So, I mean, it's it's

949
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 1: down the road. I don't necessarily like to look at

950
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: guys in say, oh, he's a you know, he's a

951
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer. There are a couple of

952
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: guys who are. But remember now, we can only elect

953
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: five modern era candidates every year. So unless you're Tom Brady,

954
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: you know, or Aaron Rodgers or you know your name

955
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 1: Jean a Hall of Famer today, I would think so, yeah,

956
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: I would think so. I mean, I can't guarantee he's

957
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer. I think I was

958
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: a little bit surprised. Not so yeah, A little bit

959
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: surprised at say, Jason Taylor and Brian Urlocker were first

960
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famers, but you know they got in.

961
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 1: They were going to get in eventually. I'm not saying

962
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: that they weren't Hall of famers, but when you start

963
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: looking at that, I think where it's it's changed in

964
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: recent years is that there used to be this queue. Right, Well,

965
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: this guy's waited long enough. He's a Hall of Famer.

966
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: He deserves to get in, and now it's just like

967
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: plug him in, get him in there. Now. What's the

968
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: craziest argument you ever heard? Oh, when you're in the room,

969
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know that I've heard anything.

970
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: It's pretty it's pretty straightforward. It doesn't get heated. Oh yeah,

971
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: he gets heated. Dan. My first year on I made

972
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: the case for Terrell Owens and it got heated. It

973
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: got heated to the point that some of my friends

974
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: were in that room were coming up to me afterward

975
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: and like saying, hey, sorry about that. So like, I

976
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: don't you can't take it personally, but oh no, it

977
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: gets heated, but it gets it. Last year, I don't

978
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: think you got heated at all. It's kind of what

979
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about. It's those kind of polarizing candidates where

980
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: people really take a stand one way or the other.

981
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: But through most of it you can kind of you know,

982
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: last year, I don't know that there was any negativity

983
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: in that room. It was just that, hey, you know,

984
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: this guy's great, but we like this guy better. I

985
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: mean there was I don't recall anyone just going after

986
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: a candidate last year or even the last couple of years.

987
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: So most of it is very positive because all the

988
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: guys in that room are there for a reason. Julian Edelman,

989
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: that's a tough one. I don't know. I think that

990
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: that one that one might take a while. I just

991
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: don't know that he's had the the you know, the career,

992
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: the regular season career, the numbers. I mean, if you

993
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: look at the postseason, that is somebody ever gone into

994
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame and not been a Pro Bowl player. Yeah,

995
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: I don't think so, Yeah, would you rather have Julian

996
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: Edelman's career or Calvin Johnson. I don't know who made

997
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: more money. Calvin Johnson did, ye, so you take that no,

998
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think probably Calvin Johnson. And he's up,

999
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: I believe this year. He's he's a first ballot candidate

1000
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: this year. But he's a tough one too, because you know,

1001
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: when you get into like I thought, Patrick Willis had

1002
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: a strong case to at least be in the top

1003
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: fifteen his first year. I mean basically every year he

1004
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: played in the league, he was a he was an

1005
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: All Pro player, he was a Pro Bowl player. He

1006
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: didn't even make it into the top fifteen his first year.

1007
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: So you know, then you start talking about Luke Keikley.

1008
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: You know, Luke Keakley and Patrick Willis. There's not a

1009
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: whole lot to separate those two. And I would put

1010
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson in that same category where for a short

1011
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: period of time, very very dominant. And along those lines,

1012
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 1: Tony BASSELLI I mean, Tony bassellis shorter career years probably

1013
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: even than those guys. But you're talking about a premium

1014
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: position left tackle. Those guys are hard to find, you

1015
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: know. It It seems like more guards are in than tackles

1016
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: because guards can stay in that position and play and

1017
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: be in the Pro Bowl twelve years. A left tackle,

1018
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: those guys are so difficult to find that if you

1019
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: can get a guy playing at a high, high level

1020
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: for four or five six years, you really have to

1021
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 1: consider him for the Hall of Fame. Philipprovers I think

1022
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: so yeah. I think eventually, again you can't say first ballot,

1023
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: but I would say that there are so many guys

1024
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: and we could tick through. I was just thinking the

1025
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,479
Speaker 1: other day about all the tight ends that are out there,

1026
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: and you guys who are in that queue, right or

1027
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: guys who are going to be coming through there. But position,

1028
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: when you look at as a voter, the toughest position

1029
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: to assess now with today's numbers and who is a

1030
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer and who's not? Well, I do think

1031
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: wide receiver is getting more difficult. I think that the

1032
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: most difficult. I think positions to assess are kind of

1033
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: the grunt work positions. You know, how do you how

1034
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: do you grade a guard? You know, a center, a

1035
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: left tackle, right tackle. How about the defensive tackles, I mean,

1036
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: so much is put onto sacks. If you're a defensive Lineman. Well,

1037
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: you can definitely be a Hall of Fame player and

1038
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: not have a hundred sacks. And so those are the

1039
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: positions where you can't You can't compare apples to apples.

1040
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: That makes it difficult. Then when you start comparing different

1041
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: guys at different positions to those grunt work guys who

1042
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: you don't have a staff for, that that's where it

1043
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: becomes really difficult. Yeah, I figured running back because it

1044
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: used to be you got to ten thousand yards and

1045
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: you became a Hall of Famer. Now you know, we

1046
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: have these hybrids. I thought Fred Taylor might be a

1047
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. I thought Ricky Waters deserved to be

1048
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. Ricky Waters was sort of

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Speaker 1: the forerunner to what it is today's running back now.

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Speaker 1: He was great pass catcher, ran for you know, Tike

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Speaker 1: Barber on the cusp there as well. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know how to assess those numbers or how will assess

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Speaker 1: those numbers at running back in the coming years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and of course, you know I cover the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: so people here, you know, Roger Craig, you know, why

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Speaker 1: isn't he in the Hall of Fame? You know he

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Speaker 1: was he was a finalist with the Blue Ribbon Committee

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Speaker 1: last year as they kind of expanded the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame class. But I mean talking about a guy there

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Speaker 1: that that played fullback, played halfback passes out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: and he was kind of the guy that enabled Bill

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Speaker 1: Walsh told do everything he wanted from that offense. So yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a it's very difficult and I

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Speaker 1: have my one vote and and you throw it in

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Speaker 1: there and you see what comes out the other side.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you getting up and uh sharing this information

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Speaker 1: with us. Matt, have fun tonight and uh we hope

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Speaker 1: to have you on again. Thank you very much. All right, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you, Matt Mayoko. He's forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers insider, NBC Sports Bay Area. Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: The Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live

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Speaker 1: for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com,

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Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 1: by searching f s R, or stream us live on

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Speaker 1: the Peacock Act. Brian Flores is the Miami Dolphins head coach.

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Speaker 1: And there was a report a couple of days ago

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Speaker 1: from Adam Schefter that the Dolphins went to two a

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Speaker 1: tongue of ioloa early, earlier than expected, because it's basically

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Speaker 1: an audition to see if they end up. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Texans draft pick is a high draft pick, and

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Speaker 1: they could take a quarterback at Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields.

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Speaker 1: Then they want to know what they have into a

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Speaker 1: tongue of ioloha. Brian Flores had this to say, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how someone close to the Dolphins thinking could

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Speaker 1: say this is a ten game audition for Tuah. I

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Speaker 1: don't know who put that out there, but that's what

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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter was reporting. That you have the Dolphins with

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Speaker 1: the Texans first round pick, and right now that pick

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Speaker 1: looks to be very high, and would they take a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I would think that you're going to know who Tua

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Speaker 1: Tongabayloh is after ten games. But I don't think this

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Speaker 1: should be a referendum on is he your future or

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Speaker 1: not you tanked for Tuah, or at least the impression

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Speaker 1: was you were tanking for Tuah. You ended up getting

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Speaker 1: him because Twa slipped a little bit further, but Adam

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Speaker 1: Schefter reported it that you know they were this was

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Speaker 1: basically an audition. Any put it out that you know

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Speaker 1: took Tua took the field for the first time in

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Speaker 1: his career. It's basically they want to know if they

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Speaker 1: have a franchise quarterback already. He's only played one game now.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a good game, but it's one game against

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Speaker 1: the Rams. I'd like to see a little bit more

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Speaker 1: there with TWA. I understand we want to know what

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Speaker 1: we have in our quarterbacks, like the Chargers know with

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, the Bengals know with Joe Burrow. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be at least another year or two for Jordan Love

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Speaker 1: in Green Bay. But two is already on the clock.

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Speaker 1: Felt strong, But look, I trust Chefty with his information.

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Speaker 1: But if you say that you got the Texans pick

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Speaker 1: and it's the fifth pick overall and Trey Lances there

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Speaker 1: or the BYU quarterback Wilson or Kyle Trask from Florida,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna go that's our guy. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna give up on TWA. Yeah, Paul, that's a lot

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Speaker 1: of names we're thrown out there as of right now

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Speaker 1: possible first rounders. I think we got rough like five.

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Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be five quarterbacks taken in the

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Speaker 1: first round at least. I mean, this is so early

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Speaker 1: right now, but I think you're gonna have at least

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Speaker 1: three in the top ten, maybe four. But it's still

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Speaker 1: early in the process obviously. Yeah, MC club. I asked

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Speaker 1: this before. Is it because the quarterbacks are so good

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Speaker 1: or just there's so much demand for quarterbacks this offseason? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the quarterbacks are far more ready than they've

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Speaker 1: ever been when you think about the NFL and going

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Speaker 1: from college where guys were staying four years in college

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Speaker 1: and then going in. But this is about the financial

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Speaker 1: aspect of it, because you bring in a quarterback, if

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Speaker 1: you make a mistake, it's not a big deal. You know,

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Speaker 1: Sam Bradford got fifty million dollars. These guys were getting

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Speaker 1: paid before they played, which I don't know how they

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Speaker 1: You know, these front office and owners allowed this to happen.

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Speaker 1: It was backwards. You were paying somebody all this money,

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Speaker 1: adding more pressure to them, and if they were a bust,

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Speaker 1: they really hurt you for a long time. Now, I

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Speaker 1: take a quarterback a didn't work out we move on.

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Speaker 1: If you take a quarterback in the top five, that's different.

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Speaker 1: If I take somebody at the end of the first round,

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Speaker 1: if I know Trey Lance. You know, the Packers went

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Speaker 1: in with Jordan Love. All right, if it doesn't work out.

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Speaker 1: The reason why we'll focus on it is because you

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Speaker 1: didn't get somebody to help Aaron Rodgers now. But if

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love is not a franchise quarterback in three years,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised either way. He's going to be

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Speaker 1: able to back up. You know, Aaron Rodgers, they saw

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Speaker 1: some things then they it was really important for them

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Speaker 1: to go up and get him. Okay, but two a

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Speaker 1: Tonga Boloa after one game, seven games, ten games, I'd

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Speaker 1: like to I'd like to have a larger sample size

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Speaker 1: than that, especially considering the injury he came back from

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Speaker 1: eleven months ago. Yeah, Pa, he doesn't. It feel also

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Speaker 1: like the days of a quarterback sitting are just about over.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes sat and only because you know the quarterback they

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Speaker 1: had was high end. You know, the Chiefs had a

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Speaker 1: high end quarterback. The only reason Jordan Love is sitting

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Speaker 1: because they have a you know, top three quarterback. But

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, there wasn't really even a question. And two

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Speaker 1: they had they had pretty decent starting quarterback this year

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Speaker 1: who kept them competitive. That wasn't enough to keep him

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Speaker 1: on the bench. I think they wanted to find out

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Speaker 1: what they had in two. But I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that meant boy, he didn't look that good or he's

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Speaker 1: a little shaky, you know what, we're in the market

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Speaker 1: for a quarterback. I think the surprising part was Ryan

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick was playing well, well enough to keep the job,

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Speaker 1: but they wanted to see what they have with Twah.

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Speaker 1: And if you get Fitzpatrick who wins, you know, three

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Speaker 1: or four games in a row, now you're in the

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Speaker 1: playoff hunt, do you put TWA in then? And I

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Speaker 1: think that might have been the reason why they wanted

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Speaker 1: to put him in and see what they had now.

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Speaker 1: But you would think they'd want to make the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and it feels like they would be a better chances

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Speaker 1: for making the playoffs with Ryan Fitzpatrick this year. But

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Speaker 1: I want to see what Tua does when he's comfortable

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Speaker 1: and you know, just moving around, just getting back out there.

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Speaker 1: But if Adam Schefter's reporting it, then you know, obviously

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Speaker 1: he had somebody inside there who was telling him that,

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Speaker 1: and Brian Flores didn't agree with it. Okay, fine, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

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