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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton with America. Now join the conversation called Buck

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Speaker 1: Toll free at eight four four hundred Buck. That's eight

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Speaker 1: four four nine hundred to eight to five the Future

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Speaker 1: of talk radio. Buck Sexton, Team Buck, Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt. Great to have you here with me today.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot to discuss. I've got good news

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Speaker 1: for you. It's not really news, it's just a reminder

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Speaker 1: reminder that there are still men and women of courage, integrity, character, patriotism.

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Speaker 1: There are still plenty of men and women with those

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Speaker 1: United States military. I think we got a strong reminder

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Speaker 1: White House Chief of Staff, General Kelly. This served multiple purposes.

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Speaker 1: I believe it set right at some level all that

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Speaker 1: commander in chief to a gold star widow. But I

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Speaker 1: think it also refocused the American people on how much

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Speaker 1: It is sacred to us. But there were some who

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Speaker 1: There's nothing that is beyond the pale, nothing that is

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Speaker 1: up to and including playing politics with gold Star families,

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Speaker 1: gold Star widows, and the whole notion of the sanctity

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Speaker 1: didn't believe that Trump would disrespect a gold Star family

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Speaker 1: widow in this case. I just didn't believe it. Under

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Speaker 1: Eight four four eight to five eight four four, Buck,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna continue to get into this, and then next

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Speaker 1: and Trump is out there saying, uh, saying this, and

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Speaker 1: media because they are claiming that somehow undermines the duty

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Speaker 1: of the press to pick out the stories. I just

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Speaker 1: recall during eight years of the Obama administration, I recall

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Speaker 1: people being very okay with Obama weighing in on new is.

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Speaker 1: In fact, President Obama would weigh in on open criminal investigations,

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Speaker 1: know that that was still that was an ongoing issue,

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Speaker 1: on who's facing charges with the possibility of charges. In fact,

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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice under Eric Holder was thinking about

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Speaker 1: a federal criminal prosecution, um a federal criminal prosecution based

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Speaker 1: on civil rights charges against against George Zimmerman, And from

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Speaker 1: there they decided that they weren't going to do it.

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Speaker 1: But President Obama had already weighed in on that. So

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Speaker 1: I just think that this, oh, Trump is not It's

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Speaker 1: almost like Trump's not allowed to have opinions on things,

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Speaker 1: and him saying that the media is not covering Russia enough.

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Speaker 1: Why is that not okay? Why is that a problem? Now?

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Speaker 1: Let me also get to uh a story here from

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Speaker 1: our friend Sarah Carter U S consulting firm with ties

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Speaker 1: to the Clintons lobbied on behalf of Russia's nuclear giants.

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Speaker 1: So this Russia thing is not going away because more

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Speaker 1: and more is being uncovered here. This is courtesy of Sarah.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you some of the details. A run.

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Speaker 1: This story, by the way, just went up while I'm

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Speaker 1: on air. A Russian nuclear executive whose company was the

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Speaker 1: payments to influence the awarding of contracts with the Russian

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Speaker 1: consulting fees to an American firm in two and twenty

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Speaker 1: eleven to lobby the US regulatory agencies and assist the

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Speaker 1: Russians who were then attempting to acquire twenty of American uranium.

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Speaker 1: According to court documents, a former FBI informant and extensive

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Speaker 1: Clinton's foundation, the Clinton Global Initiative UH services they begin

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Speaker 1: what you'd call it. A p c O officials who

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Speaker 1: sale of the US uranium to Russia. According to the

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Speaker 1: contract obtained by CIRCA, the total fee is comprised of

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Speaker 1: the fixed quarterly fee, which shall be seven and fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars per each of the four three month periods

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Speaker 1: of this contract, including the eighteen percent Russian vat payable

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Speaker 1: in the territory of the Russian Federation. So you go

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Speaker 1: into this and I know there's a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: this corporation, that corporation, this name that name and all.

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Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of stuff that is in this

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Speaker 1: piece that Sarah's written. And I know that the Russia

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Speaker 1: um the Russia corruption, Perhaps we should separate it out.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats are always trying to prove collusion with Trump,

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Speaker 1: and they've been completely unsuccessful because there is no collusion,

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Speaker 1: but the corruption issue people, somebody already went to jail

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Speaker 1: for this. We have a source that wants to come

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Speaker 1: forward that the Obama do O J would not let

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Speaker 1: come forward. And now we're starting to see that there

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Speaker 1: were even more ties and yes, payoffs and shady dealings

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Speaker 1: with direct connections to the Clinton Foundation, corrupt and likely

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Speaker 1: illegal dealings with with connections to the Clinton Foundation, all

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Speaker 1: the sector of US nuclear energy, all on the sector

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Speaker 1: of uranium and uranium one. So what are we to

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Speaker 1: make of all of this? He's holding the line for America,

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton his back, Welcome back team. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: get into a little bit of a discussion about what

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Speaker 1: the a former president had to say today. I've wont

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Speaker 1: spent too much time on it. I want to do

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Speaker 1: a lot of national security analysis this hour, because you've

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Speaker 1: got some big things happening right now. So just as

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Speaker 1: a preview for all of that, you have the UH,

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Speaker 1: the fall of the Islamic State and their defeat in Rocca,

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Speaker 1: and they are on the run and in the midst

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Speaker 1: of what is a route. You also have renewed threats

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Speaker 1: of mass casualty terror attacks in response to this, including

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Speaker 1: the DHS and other government officials warning about increased chatter

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Speaker 1: and concerns right now. Over all of that, and then

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Speaker 1: finally also the state of Kurdistan, the Iranian hand in

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Speaker 1: Iraq right now and how it's being used as a

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Speaker 1: lot of that coming up here in this hour of

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Speaker 1: the show, and then finally in the latter part of

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Speaker 1: the show third hour, we'll get into some discussion of

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Speaker 1: maybe the Bernie Sanders cruise debate from last night. Cruise

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Speaker 1: is like a little funnier sometimes that I that I

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Speaker 1: think people give him credit for occasionally Cruise it says

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Speaker 1: something pretty funny, you know. It's like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I think he's a little I think he's his political

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Speaker 1: skills at a national level, are he's loosening up a

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Speaker 1: little bit? Anyway, Look, I was a cruise supporter in

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Speaker 1: the primary, along with many of my conservative friends. And

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Speaker 1: I used to be kirond Sometimes they would make you

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Speaker 1: do this and see then you had no choice. Are

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Speaker 1: your crew supporter? Anyway? Is that all be coming up

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Speaker 1: in the third hour. But for right now, you had

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Speaker 1: former President George W. Bush, who is it is a

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Speaker 1: good man. You know, I met him a couple of times. Um,

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of I I respect for him.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was a fantastic president overall. I

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Speaker 1: think he was uh, well intentioned guy and a good

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Speaker 1: wartime a good wartime president given the threats we faced

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Speaker 1: on nine eleven and afterwards, buddy, on the domestic front,

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Speaker 1: you know, there was a mixed bag. It was a

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Speaker 1: mixed bag with George W. Bush. It was not it

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Speaker 1: was not always great, a lot of spending and not

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Speaker 1: good on the border, and not always helpful to the

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Speaker 1: cause of conservatism as we know. I look, I'm just

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Speaker 1: trying to be fair to it all, trying to give

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Speaker 1: an accurate assessment of what we all saw. And today

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Speaker 1: he decided to give a speech and let me just

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Speaker 1: play one one part of it, and this will give

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Speaker 1: you a sense of much of what the tone was

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Speaker 1: the American dream of upward mobility seems out of reach

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Speaker 1: for some who feel left behind in a changing economy.

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Speaker 1: Discontent deepened and sharpened partisan conflicts. Bigotry seems emboldened, Our

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Speaker 1: politics seems more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and outright fabrication.

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Speaker 1: Argument turns too easily into animosity. Disagreement escalates into dehumanization.

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Speaker 1: Too often we judge other groups by their worst examples,

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Speaker 1: while judging ourselves by our best intentions. Our identity is

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Speaker 1: a nation, unlike many other nations, is not determined by

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Speaker 1: geography or ethnicity, by soil or blood. Become the heirs

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Speaker 1: of Martin Luther King j R. By recognizing one another

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Speaker 1: not by the color of their skin, but by the

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Speaker 1: content of their character. This means that people of every race, religion,

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Speaker 1: ethnicity can be fully and equally American. It means that

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Speaker 1: bigotry or white supremacy in any form is blasphemy against

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Speaker 1: the American creed. Now, when you google George Bush speech

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Speaker 1: under news Today, here what all the headlines say. The

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Speaker 1: first ones that come up George W. Bush just laid

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Speaker 1: a major SmackDown on Trump is um CNN New York

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Speaker 1: Times without saying Trump, George W. Bush delivers an implicit rebuke.

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Speaker 1: H Washington Post George W. Bush is unmistakable takedown of

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Speaker 1: Trump is m I wonder how George W. Bush thinks

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Speaker 1: it is helpful to misrepresent what Trump stands for as

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Speaker 1: a political movement. What Trump isn't really is assuming that

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Speaker 1: he was speaking about Trump isn't, which I know there's

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Speaker 1: something to say, Oh, he didn't mention Trump, but we

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Speaker 1: all know there's a reason why he's talking about white

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Speaker 1: supremacy and bigotry right now, because this is a favorite

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Speaker 1: topic of Democrats and the left, and they are always

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Speaker 1: saying that Trump is guilty of them. And I do

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Speaker 1: not believe that that is in any way a fair assessment.

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Speaker 1: So I don't really understand what George W. Bush thinks

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Speaker 1: he's accomplishing with this. I went over with you yesterday.

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Speaker 1: How one month Trump is a racist, the media says,

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Speaker 1: the next month Trump is a rapist, the media says,

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Speaker 1: the next month Trump is a Russia spy or stooge

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Speaker 1: or whatever the media says. And then the next month

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Speaker 1: Trump doesn't care about the military. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: every month Trump is the worst ever, the worst ever,

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Speaker 1: the worst ever, in that environment, is having a former

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Speaker 1: president really all that? Is it all that helpful right now?

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Speaker 1: For him to stand up and say this, How is

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Speaker 1: it helpful? Look? I think that George W. Bush is

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Speaker 1: a is an honorable and well intentioned guy. I just

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Speaker 1: don't know what purpose he really thinks he's unless he

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Speaker 1: really believes, and maybe he does, that Trump is a

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Speaker 1: danger to the republic. From the speech today, I think

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Speaker 1: you be able to certainly make the case that you

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Speaker 1: can draw that conclusion. But that's troubling because I think

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Speaker 1: that is not only unfair, I think that's a deep

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Speaker 1: misreading of what Trump is um really is and is

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Speaker 1: all about. Uh. I just want to ask the press.

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Speaker 1: I would want to ask George, Hey, George, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that they keep the title Mr. President when they're

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Speaker 1: done right, because there's only one president. Hey, George, Mr Bush,

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Speaker 1: why did you do that today? It just embull Olden's

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Speaker 1: the left and the Democrat media to lie and slander

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Speaker 1: and make things even more difficult for this president. So

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Speaker 1: if you really wanted to help your party, and I

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Speaker 1: say this for all the never Trumpers who were out there,

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Speaker 1: and why not try to guide Trump and the Republican

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Speaker 1: Congress in the right direction. Why not encourage what is

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Speaker 1: good and call out what is bad. To just say

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Speaker 1: that all of it is bad is simplistic, unfair, and

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Speaker 1: I would offer to you entirely unhelpful. We already know

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Speaker 1: the Democrats are entirely unhelpful. We don't need to have

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Speaker 1: Republicans doing the same thing. All right, Let's get into

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Speaker 1: a buck brief here. You are now entering the freedom

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Speaker 1: of Titnical Operations Center. All sensitive programs must be kept strictly.

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Speaker 1: Need to know Team bucket is cleared and ready to

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Speaker 1: the buck brief. There should be much more celebration, as

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Speaker 1: I see it, about the defeat, the defeat of the

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Speaker 1: Islamic State. We should see much more media coverage of

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Speaker 1: this fact than we do. Let's before we talk about

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Speaker 1: what has just happened here, which is that Rocca the

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Speaker 1: capital of the Islamic State, or dash or isis all

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Speaker 1: different names for the same entity. Let's look back at

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Speaker 1: what happened. It was but a few years ago that

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Speaker 1: a terrorist army made it across the border into Iraq

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Speaker 1: after seizing portions of the Syrian hinterlands, and in the

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Speaker 1: midst of the Syrian Civil War had been able to

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Speaker 1: not just strike at Iraq but also stifle and almost

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Speaker 1: stamp out entirely the Syrian forces of resistance against Assam

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Speaker 1: that were not che hottests. But on the Iraqi side

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Speaker 1: of the equation, Isis in a caliphate Blitzkrieg uh rammed

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Speaker 1: across the border into Mosl and was able to take

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Speaker 1: a city in Iraq of one point four million people

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Speaker 1: or so with very few shots fired. There were reports

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Speaker 1: of Iraqi Army soldiers at the time leaving behind their

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Speaker 1: uniforms neatly folded on the ground. They were not about

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Speaker 1: to stand up and fight these black clad maniacs with

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Speaker 1: the black banners of Jihad flying above not just the

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Speaker 1: pickup trucks that they entered Iraq with, but also over

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Speaker 1: the armored vehicles that had once belonged to the Iraqi Army,

646
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: but that with the fall of Mosel, found their way

647
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Speaker 1: into the hands of ISIS, and so machinery paid for

648
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: by you and me, my friends, weapons of war given

649
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: to the Iraqi military courtesy of Uncle Sam were then

650
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: distributed amongst the ISIS conquerors of Mosul, and they were

651
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: at one point on the outskirts of the Baghdad suburbs.

652
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: There were US APACHE helicopters that had to be deployed

653
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: from Baghdad west to push back advancing ISIS forces. ISIS

654
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: managed to even threaten their bill, the capital of Kurdistan,

655
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Speaker 1: and we were concerned at one point that we might

656
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Speaker 1: have to have a serious deployment of large amounts of

657
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 1: US troops into Iraq to stop from I, stop ISIS

658
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: from running rough shod over Baghdad itself. That's how bad

659
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: things were. That's where this conflict really started out, and

660
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: the Obama administration dither. There should be very little question

661
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: about that. Obama's first foreign policy priority in Iraq was

662
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: don't be Bush. His first foreign policy priority in Syria

663
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: was don't do anything that could look like Bush in Iraq.

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, don't upset the Iranians who

665
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: are tied to the Assad regime, because you're gonna need

666
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Speaker 1: to get that nuclear deal done with Iran for your

667
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: foreign policy legacy. Assyrian civil war resulted in five hundred

668
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: thousand estimated dead and the dismemberment of that country. But

669
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: ISIS became a priority for US because it was an

670
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: external threat as well. ISIS fighters had infiltrated into Europe

671
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Speaker 1: and in the last three years engaged in a number

672
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Speaker 1: of mass casualty attacks. On top of that, the notion

673
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Speaker 1: of an Islamic state that was run by jee Hottis

674
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: who were claiming that it would be the site of

675
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: a great battle for the end of days. That in

676
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: fact Isis ideology was that the end of the world

677
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: would come in Syria with a fight in the midst

678
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Speaker 1: of Syria and Debeik is the name of the area

679
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: and they fought they thought would be the battlefield for

680
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: this uh that they then were able to push this

681
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: ideology around the world resulted in tens of thousands flocking

682
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: to the Islamic States banner and the prospect of other

683
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: countries suffering the same fate as Iraq and Syria. Affiliate

684
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: groups to the Islamic State. We're popping up all over

685
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: the world and there were ge hottest who are even

686
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 1: self radicalizing here in America and then engaging in attacks

687
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: on behalf of the Islamic State. So this was a

688
00:46:54,080 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: true menace with worldwide impact and global domination and ambitions

689
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: as megalomaniacal as that may be. And we did not

690
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: have for years under the Obama administration an effective policy

691
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: to deal with them. At the very end of Obama's

692
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: time in office, perhaps because he knew he'd be handing

693
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: it off to another commander in chief, some of the

694
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: right decisions on dealing with ISIS were made, and some

695
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: of the right structures were put in place for defeating ISIS.

696
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: With the Trump administration, you had an acceleration of the

697
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: air campaign and a willingness to take the fight much

698
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: faster and harder to ISIS from the air and on

699
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Speaker 1: the ground than ever before under Obama. And that is

700
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Speaker 1: all the necessary backstory for us to now say that

701
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Speaker 1: IIS has been defeated. This is important, This is noteworthy.

702
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: This should not just get swept into the rest of

703
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: the news cycle on other unrelated items to national security,

704
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: as though this is just something that happened in the

705
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: Middle East. This is major. I believe the administration should

706
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: give a speech specifically UH complimenting and louding and congratulating

707
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: and UH and giving as giving high fives to all

708
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: of our Muslim allies in this fight against the Islamic state.

709
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: There is a tremendous opportunity here to tell a story

710
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: about how America stood beside those who were willing to

711
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: stand up and fight for themselves against the hottest tyranny,

712
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: most notably the Kurds we'll be talking about later on

713
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: in this hour, but there were others too. There were Jordanians,

714
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: and many of you will certainly remember that horrific video

715
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: of it captured Jordanian pilot who was helping us take

716
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: the fight to the Islamic State, and the Islamic State

717
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: executed him brutally on video for it. There were Gulf

718
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: states that were assisting us, the Saudis and the U

719
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: a E and others that were part of our coalition

720
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: to take the fight to Isis, and this is a

721
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: major victory. It's also the implementation of a strategy that

722
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Speaker 1: we are going to want to replicate elsewhere around the world.

723
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: We want to give our Muslim allies the tools and

724
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: the support to fight themselves against jihadism, and that is

725
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: the model that I think has been established both in

726
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: Iraq and in Syria. But it is it is a

727
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Speaker 1: time for solemn remembrance because of all of the evil

728
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: that was done by the Islamic State. We should not

729
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Speaker 1: forget what it means for an area to fall into

730
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Speaker 1: the clutches of jihoti is Um. We should not forget

731
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Speaker 1: what it means when there are Islamic radicals who are

732
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: not just uh fighting on the battlefield, but also maintaining

733
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: a govern moment, a government that, in the case of

734
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: Isis in Rocca and the other areas under its control.

735
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Speaker 1: We're torturing, beheading, mutilating, cutting off hands for minor offenses,

736
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Speaker 1: cutting off ears, raping women as a form of punishment

737
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Speaker 1: for their families, or just because the savages, the barbarians

738
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: of Isis felt like that was what they were going

739
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 1: to do. We've blown a lot of them away off

740
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Speaker 1: the battlefield, and that is a good thing. There are

741
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: many others who will melt into the civilian population. Now

742
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: they are cowards and they always have been. Now we

743
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: see them for what they are. But we should also

744
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 1: take stock and take a moment to thank our military

745
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: that had provided the necessary cover and I'm sure done

746
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: a whole lot that we're not even publicly aware of

747
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: to eliminate the Isis menace. There's so much that the

748
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: military is doing all the time time, and there's so

749
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: much that's being done by everybody who works in national

750
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: security in our government UH in this area of the

751
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: world to try and defeat these enemies. But our military,

752
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: our airmen, are special forces were essential in this process

753
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: and did a heck of a heck of a thing

754
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Speaker 1: by eliminating this caliphate and wiping it off the face

755
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Speaker 1: of the earth. And we also have Muslim friends and

756
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 1: allies who fought bravely here and did their best under

757
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: the circumstances, sometimes very difficult circumstances to UH stand up

758
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: to an enemy that would give no quarter, that would

759
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: not abide by any of the rules or norms of war,

760
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: and that had fully embraced evil. We have in Iraq

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Speaker 1: and Syria defeated a massive death cult. That's what isis is.

762
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Speaker 1: And I would like to see the President or one

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Speaker 1: of his top national security people, General Maddis or perhaps

764
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: General Kelly, just remind all Americans of what our armed

765
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: forces have accomplished over there, and also to thank our

766
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: allies for standing with us and dropping the hammer on

767
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: those evil, thuggish disgraces to humanity known as the Islamic State.

768
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Speaker 1: They have been defeated, and it's a darn good thing too. Um.

769
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Speaker 1: There are also threats, however, there are very real concerns

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Speaker 1: about what the response will be. And make no mistake,

771
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: IIS still controls Hawijia in Iraq and some of the

772
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Speaker 1: surrounding areas. It still has a stronghold in dare Is

773
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Speaker 1: or ISIS is not eradicated entirely. It has just ceased

774
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: to exist as a state. Now it's an idea much

775
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: more so. It's also an insurgency though, and a terrorist group,

776
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Speaker 1: and one with tentacles that stretch all over the world.

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Speaker 1: So coming up here in just a few minute, it's

778
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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about what the response

779
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: could be to the defeat of ISIS, the loss of Roca.

780
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Speaker 1: How will this group try and regroup, how will it

781
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: try and regain relevance in jihaddest circles, both in the

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Speaker 1: Middle East and around the world. We will get into

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Speaker 1: all that and much more coming up as well as

784
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: a discussion about the latest with the Kurds and kerk Cook.

785
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 1: It's an important national security issue not getting enough attention

786
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: to the press and those who are listening who are

787
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: current or former military no that we've got a lot

788
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: of of a lot of ties to the Kurds and

789
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: a lot of you feel very strongly as I know

790
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: I do. He's holding the line for America, buck Sexton

791
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: his back groups working for another nine eleven. Acting d

792
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Speaker 1: h S Chief Warrens this courtesy of Fox News. Threat

793
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: levels in the US are extremely high, as intelligence indicates

794
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: the Islamic State group and other terror groups are using

795
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: small scale plots to build toward another nine eleven style attack.

796
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Elaine Duke warned, quote,

797
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: the terrorist organizations, be at ISIS or others, want to

798
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: have the big explosion like they did on nine eleven,

799
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: Duke said, speaking at the U S Embassy in London.

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00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: They want to take down aircraft. The intelligence is clear

801
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: on that their ultimate goal is creating terror, and a

802
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: van attack in London as well as sporadic knife attacks

803
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: accomplish just that while never giving up on a major

804
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: aviation plot. Look, I should know that this is by

805
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 1: no means new, and whether we're talking about al Qaeda

806
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 1: or the Islamic State or any jihaddest entity that views

807
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: itself as part of the global jihad and is not

808
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: predominantly focused on a local Islamist struggle, although they all

809
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: believe they're part of one uma. One Islamic community. So

810
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: it's just a question of degrees. It's not really like

811
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: any organization can be devoted to There's no such thing

812
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: as just a local jihad in the in the true

813
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: context of the term. But the difference now is that

814
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: with the fall of the Islamic State from being a state,

815
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: there is going to be an increased desire among the

816
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: affiliate groups all across the world to strike against the

817
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: US and its interests. There will be and an increase,

818
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: i believe, not just in chatter, but in low scale efforts,

819
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: a kind of low tech, low skill, if you will,

820
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: terrorism that we have seen so many times over the

821
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: last few years. This is the vehicle attack that we've seen,

822
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: this is the knife attack, the UH, the shooting bombings,

823
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: but generally from individuals who have tenuous or no actual

824
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: ties to the Islamic State, which is the big differentiator here.

825
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: Now we may see some of those groups, whether it's

826
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: Boko Haram in Nigeria, UH, the Islamic State of the Sinai,

827
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: the Islamic State in Afghanistan, we may see them try

828
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: and engage in outside plotting against the United States or Europe.

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00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: They will certainly be going after US on foreign soil.

830
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: But I think that there may be for strategic propaganda reasons,

831
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: there may be a push now I am. I would assume,

832
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: and this is why I think the DHS Acting Secretary

833
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: said what she did publicly. I would assume that the

834
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: leadership of the Islamic State eight sees the state of

835
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: play as follows. We have lost so much territory in

836
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: Iraq and Syria. The Islamic State is no more, but

837
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: the Islamic Jihad is an idea that must be sustained,

838
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: and the best way for them to do that is

839
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: to either themselves activate a cell in Europe or to

840
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: reach out to one of their affiliate organizations and say

841
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: what resources can you bring to bear for a mass

842
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: casualty attack. One of the reasons that gee hottest plots

843
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: have been either thwarted or just fizzled failed in so

844
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: many instances to create any casualties or only limited casualties,

845
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: is because most jihattists who believe that they're doing this

846
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: as part of a cosmic theological struggle for not just

847
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: global domination, but for eternal glory, they want to go

848
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: out in a blaze of glory. They want to engage

849
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: in a massive explosion attack, they want to kill hundreds,

850
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: if not thousands of people, and in aiming for such

851
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: widespread carnage, they often go beyond what they're planning and

852
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: skills allow. The perfect example of this would be Faisal

853
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: Shazad in the Times Square bombing. In if he had

854
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: just driven his car into Times Square, he would have

855
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: no doubt killed people by mowing them down, but he

856
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: wanted to build a massive car bomb though he did

857
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: not have the skill set to do it. There are

858
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: plenty of other instances just like this, of terror plots

859
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: that we're not even foiled, but just fizzled because the

860
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: individual or individuals engaged in them were not trained by

861
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: any real terror tray craft entity right, they didn't get

862
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: the skills for a mass casualty attack. But a nine

863
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: eleven style attack by any of these affiliate groups would

864
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 1: automatically kick start the jihad once again, and it would

865
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: take the focus, the propaganda focus off the loss of

866
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: the Islamic state and would all of a sudden draw

867
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: perhaps even more recruits to the banner all over the world,

868
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: the banner of jihad, and it would make it seem

869
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: as though no matter what the United States and its

870
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: allies are able to accomplish in this fight, there will

871
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: always be the prospect of yet another attack. There will

872
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: always be looming over us like some evil specter, the

873
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: threat of yet more Jihaddest violence. So that's why, despite

874
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: what should what is a cause for celebration, which is

875
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: the fall of the Islamic State, um, there are these

876
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: reports right now and concerns about elevated threat against us,

877
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: and it's something that we should take very seriously because

878
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: messaging is at the heart of the Islamic State venture.

879
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: It has been in many ways as much a propaganda

880
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: campaign as it is a state building enterprise. These groups

881
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: have always engaged in terror and mass murder and and

882
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: enslaved people and engaged in mass rape. That is a

883
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: defining characteristic of je hottest terrorist entities, But it is

884
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: the state building that was different about the Islamic State

885
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: and the creation of a perception that they were building

886
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: a country, if you will, that was ruled by je hottests.

887
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: They're not getting that country anymore, but they still want

888
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: to keep that idea alive. Team I've been talking to

889
01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: you about the problems posed by leaving our Kurdish allies

890
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: high and dry in Iraq to fend for themselves. We

891
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: see now that it's even worse than just an issue

892
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: of dealing with the central government in Baghdad. This also

893
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: brings into the conversation Iran and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard

894
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: Corps the i r g C. There have been reports

895
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: now for a couple of days that the commander of

896
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: the Kood's Force, which is an elite part of the

897
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 1: i r g C. The commander is Kassam Salamani, that

898
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: he was involved in the operation to take kirk Cook

899
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: from the Kurdish Peshmerga. Now, just by way of background here,

900
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: kirk Cook is a city in northern Iraq that is

901
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: right on the edge of Kurdish controlled territory. It is

902
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: a mixed city in terms of ethnicity, and it is

903
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: about a million million people in change in terms of

904
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: total inhabitants. It's a major city and the Peshmerga, the

905
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: Kurdish Peshmerga had taken the city, taken control of it

906
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: because of the ISIS invasion of Iraq, and they had

907
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: taken it back and they had taken it in control

908
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: of it after ISIS. And the reality here is that

909
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: kirk Cook is very important to the Kurds they call

910
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: it their Jerusalem, but that you have an Iranian commander

911
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: Kassam Salamani taking control of Shia militias which they call

912
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: the Popular Mobilization Forces, and allowing this Iranian cats paw

913
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: to be used against our friends, the Kurds in Iraq.

914
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: This is terrible long term strategic decision making, I understand.

915
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: In the short term, it looks like the administration looks

916
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: like President Trump and his top national security advisors don't

917
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: want to add another problem onto their plate. I get

918
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: that makes sense under the circumstances. But here's the problem

919
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: with that. Uh. The long term benefits of an independent

920
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: Kurdistan for US policy in the Mid East I think

921
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: greatly outweigh the short term risks posed by a political transition,

922
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: not a military transition. Nobody wants the Iraqi government and

923
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: the Kurds to be shooting it out in the streets

924
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: of kirk Cook or anywhere else for that matter. But

925
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: a political transition into an independent state would give us

926
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: a stalwart, dependable Muslim ally in the Middle East that

927
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure would be happy to have some US bases

928
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: there in the future. Lots of US direct investment is

929
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: right next door to Iran, and oh, by the way,

930
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: also has a ties to the Kurdish minority in Iran.

931
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: People often forget this, but Iran holds itself up as

932
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: this she a Persian state and that it's been essentially

933
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: this Persian kingdom for thousands of years. But the truth

934
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: is that Iran has many different ethnicities. Uh it is

935
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: a good percentage Kurdish overall, you're talking about a few

936
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: million Kurds in Iran. Iran is a population of seventy million,

937
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: but you might have as many as five or six

938
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: million Kurds in Iran. So if we want to be

939
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: able to exert pressure long term on the Iranians, creating

940
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: an independent, stable Kurdish state that maybe even has some

941
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: US bases right on their doorstep makes a whole lot

942
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: of sense to me. And in terms of the short

943
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: the shorter term risks that we face. The Turks, I

944
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: think are a lot of bluster on this issue of

945
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: what they would do about in Iraqi Kurdistan. A Turkish

946
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: Kurdistan is never going to be acceptable to them, and

947
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 1: I understand that. But the Turks in fact get oil

948
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: from the Kurdish area. The pipeline that goes from the

949
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: oil fields around Kerk Cook, which we want to understand

950
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: why the Iraqi government gets so tense about a Kurdish

951
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: a Kurdish region that would be a breakaway province that

952
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: would succeed. It's in part because of oil revenues. It's

953
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: also because central governments tend to have a problem with

954
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 1: any part of the country just breaking away from them.

955
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: But the pipeline for the oil around Kerk Cook in

956
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: those fields, including the oldest field, the oldest oil field

957
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: in Iraq where oil was discovered first, I mean UH

958
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: is outside of kirk Cook, but that pipeline goes up

959
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: into Turkey. The UH, overwhelming majority of the oil in

960
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: Iraq actually goes through Basrah, a Shia majority city to

961
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: the south on the Persian Gulf for the Arabian golfs

962
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: depending on who you ask, and it goes out there

963
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: two ships, and that's where most of the oil, most

964
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: of the oil and rock is in the south and

965
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: goes through Basra. But the oil pipeline that goes up

966
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: into Turkey has been safe and secure for a long

967
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: time and a source of crude for the Turkish government.

968
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: The Turks have also put a lot of direct investment

969
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: into Kurdistan. They don't want to smash the Kurds, but

970
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: because of their current government, which is a jingoistic and

971
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: increasingly Islamist air Dewan regime, we are concerned about what

972
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: they might do in response to an Iraqi Kurdistan. I

973
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: think we could get them to calm down on this

974
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: if we tried, but it would be adding to the

975
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: possible problems right now that the administration has to deal with,

976
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: and I understand that there is a hesitation on their

977
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: part too. Uh take this on, But that brings me

978
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: back to what I keep calling the debt of honor

979
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: we have to the Kurdish people. There's the old saying

980
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: that the Kurds have no friends but the mountains, and

981
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: it's quite true unfortunately historically, and when, as I've told

982
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: you before, you look at mountainous people from Scotland to Kurdistan,

983
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: to Afghanistan to Appalachia and our own country. People that

984
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: have the ability to go up into the mountains and

985
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: separate themselves from central power tend to be a rebellious

986
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: and independent lot, and the Kurds certainly fall into that category.

987
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: They have been treated terribly by Saddam they have been

988
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: treated terribly by UH the various regimes in which there

989
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: is a large Kurdish population, the Turks, the Iranians, the Syrians,

990
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: and the Iraqis. And ever since World War One ended,

991
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,919
Speaker 1: there has been this Kurdish question, and I think it's

992
01:07:54,920 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: time that we settle it. There is no greater UH

993
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: message that I think we could send about our allies

994
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 1: right now in the middle of the Muslim world than

995
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: to look at a Muslim people, which is what the

996
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: Kurds are, Muslim, They're just ethnically non Arab, to look

997
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: at them and say, you fought with us, you bled

998
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 1: with us, and because of your actions, fewer Americans lost Limbs,

999
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: fewer Americans died in combat in Iraq, which I think

1000
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 1: is indisputably true, especially when you add in the fight

1001
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: against the Islamic state. That's where I think we have

1002
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: this debt of honor to the Kurdish people. They helped

1003
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 1: save and preserve American lives, and nothing in our fight

1004
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 1: against Islamic extremism can be more important to us than

1005
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: that they were saving Americans and protecting Americans, and they

1006
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: were our most important ally against the Islamic state. And

1007
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: to see them chased out of kirk Book by the

1008
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: I r g C. And the head of the I

1009
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: r g C, Kastam Sulamani, is keep in mind to

1010
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: watch at the other end of the spectrum, a group

1011
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: that has the blood of Americans on its hands going

1012
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:20,919
Speaker 1: up against and chasing away our allies. Because the government

1013
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: in Baghdad, which is officially allied with us but has

1014
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 1: all kinds of problems when it comes to dealing with Iran,

1015
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: is too cowardly or incapable of standing up against the

1016
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: Mullahs in Tehran and saying no to the I r

1017
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: g C. Iraq is in danger of becoming a a

1018
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: an Iranian puppet regime. If it's not, they're already, and

1019
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: some would argue that it is. The Kurds have been

1020
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: our friends. The Kurds have kept Americans safe. Ask any

1021
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: veteran who worked with the Kurds, and I tell you

1022
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: nine times out of ten, and maybe even more than that,

1023
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: they'll say they were honorable people. They fought with us,

1024
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: they bled with us, and they showed that the problem

1025
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: in the Middle East is not a function of Islam

1026
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: can't be a stable society. The problems in the Middle

1027
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,839
Speaker 1: East come from those who are extremists, from those who

1028
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: won't deal with modernity. The Kurds are Muslims who embrace modernity.

1029
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 1: The Kurds are Muslims who want to work with and

1030
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: be friends with an allied with the West. They want

1031
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: better schools for their children, they want security for their people,

1032
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 1: and they are able to successfully suppress that ji hottest

1033
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: instinct from within Islam that has devastated so many other

1034
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 1: countries in the region and been the cause of more

1035
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 1: of the instability we have seen in the world over

1036
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,719
Speaker 1: the last thirty or so years than any other factor.

1037
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: Jihot is Um is a cancer on the world, and

1038
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: the Kurds have been doing their level best to help

1039
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 1: us ex ees it, at least from within their own

1040
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: society and from within Iraq, and they've done a darn

1041
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: good job of it. And it just honestly breaks my

1042
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:15,440
Speaker 1: heart to see them chased away by scum like Kasum Solomani,

1043
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:20,480
Speaker 1: his I r g C thugs and the Iranian kleptocrat

1044
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: jerks in Tehran getting their way in the in Iraq.

1045
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: It's just uh, it's it's a gut punch and it

1046
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: shouldn't be the way that it is, and the administration

1047
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: needs to pay more attention to this one. I know

1048
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: that they've got a lot their hands are full with

1049
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: other issues right now. But we owe the Kurds. We

1050
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: simply do, and it's time that we take that obligation

1051
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: as seriously as they had been taking their obligations to

1052
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: fight with us, to protect our people and to be

1053
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: our ally. He's back with you now, because when it

1054
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: comes to the fight for truth, the never stops. So

1055
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: there's a Spencer rally. Richard Spencer given a speech. I'm

1056
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: not even sure it's a rally, really, because I don't

1057
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: know if anyone's gonna show up to this thing. I

1058
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: hope no one shows up to this. It's at the

1059
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: University of Florida. And you've got this guy in the

1060
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: alt right who gets so much attention from the media

1061
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: because they like the alt right as a boogeyman that

1062
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 1: they can make appear whenever they want. Oh, the alt right,

1063
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: the white nationalists are. The white nationalists are jerks and losers,

1064
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: and nobody really cares what they have to say. Anybody

1065
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 1: with an IQ over seventy who is a reasonable, moral,

1066
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 1: ethical person thinks that the alt right are a bunch

1067
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: of complete and utter imbeciles, and so why do they

1068
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 1: get so much media coverage. There's a part of me

1069
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: that doesn't even want to talk about this story because

1070
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: I have to talk about the alt right. You know,

1071
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: this is one of those catch twenty two's. I can

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Speaker 1: try to ignore it, but then I'm ignoring the alt right.

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01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: Why aren't you talking about them? Or I talk about

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01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: them and I'm giving them more attention? Right, So there's

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01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: there's no there's no simple way to a straightforward way

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01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: to handle this. But I would just say the following, Uh,

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01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: the alter right is about as popular as I've said before,

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01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: the Westboro Baptist Church, and everybody who's anybody of any

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01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: sense hates the Westboro Baptist Church. And this is just

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Speaker 1: clownish stupidity. What's kind of incredible, though, is how expensive

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Speaker 1: these spend. The Spencer speech will be. Uh, it's gonna

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01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 1: cost in security half a million dollars. Now, let me

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01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,759
Speaker 1: say that for for once. The the leftists out there,

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Speaker 1: the the progressive student unions and Democrats for you know,

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01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: college democrats and I'm sure college Republicans too, who are

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01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: all saying this guy is uh scum and everything that

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01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: he's saying and everything that he stands for is is

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01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: a disgrace. I agree with them, but I also don't

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01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 1: think that there should have to be a half a

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01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: million dollars of security here. There should just be tumbleweeds

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01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: blowing through this guy's speech. There should be he he

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Speaker 1: should be the equivalent. And my understanding is that the

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Speaker 1: University of Florida can't because the state school can't prevent

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Speaker 1: him from going. He's invited himself. He's not even an

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01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: invited guest. I guess he's rented out a hall at

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Speaker 1: the University of Florida, which they allow people to do

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01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: that or I'm I'm guessing that's the case. I don't

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01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,879
Speaker 1: know how else he could. I know he wasn't invited. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And the president of the school has, the president university

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01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 1: has said that this is Uh, this guy is terrible.

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01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean this this is easy, right, I mean everyone

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01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: knows this guy is terrible. Um. But it shouldn't cost

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01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: a half a million dollars to prepare for this thing

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01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: because it really shouldn't cost much of anything because nobody

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01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: should care. And what what you see happening here is

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01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: that Spencer feeds off of and those who support him

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01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: feed off of the progressive snowflake ism that's out there

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01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: that you know, you have to show up and shout

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01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: this guy down, that that's proving how brave you are.

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01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: Look for once they're right, you know, it's one thing

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01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 1: when they show up, but like a Ben Shapiro or

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01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: Charles Murray speech, because then not only are they acting

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01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: like children, but they're also morons. Right. But here, yeah, okay,

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01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: I agree with them, Spencer's an idiot, But you don't.

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01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: You don't have to show up and make a big

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01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 1: noise about how this guy's message is so bad because

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01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any substantial following, he does not have

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01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: a voice. But they have been conditioned, the left and

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01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: a lot of millennials and young people, they have been

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Speaker 1: conditioned to think that the president is tied in with

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01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: the alt right, and there's this creeping fascism in America

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01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 1: and we all have to be on guard for what's

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01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 1: going to happen if if we don't do this, if

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01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: we don't become antifa, anti fascists, all this stuff, it's

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01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 1: just all exaggerated, hyperbolic nonsense. There have always been white

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Speaker 1: supremacist and white nationalist idiots running around the FBI. I

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01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 1: just released a report on violent African American extremism. I

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01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 1: should note you know, there are radical, evil people from

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Speaker 1: all different ends of the political spectrum and belief spectrum,

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01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 1: and the issue is do they have enough support that

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01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: it matters. Are there ideas being accepted in society or not?

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01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 1: And if the answer is no, everyone thinks they're they're

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01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: they're idiotic, and no, they don't have any support. I

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01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 1: waste so much time and effort opposing them. You just

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01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: bring more attention to the cause. So with Spencer, I

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01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: just think we have one of these instances where the

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01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 1: notion that we should have to have people showing up

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01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: and that there needs to be a half a million

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01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 1: dollars of security. Why because someone's gonna riot at a

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01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 1: Richard Spencer rally. Just don't even show up. Let the

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01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 1: guy speak to an empty hall. That's the biggest repudiation

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01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: of this ideology that there could be. Just don't show up,

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01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 1: don't be there, because with the Internet, it's not like

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01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: you can shut down his speech entirely. Anyway. I just

1145
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: think this is a lot of posturing from these college kids.

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01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 1: I agree with them on this, on this case, that

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01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: they're posturing in the right way or or at the

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01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 1: right time. The guy is an idiot. Spencer's the worst.

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01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: But it shouldn't need five to settle everything down. All right, Say,

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01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: we've got some lines lit. Let's a call from Mark

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01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: in California, who's listening on the I heart app. Hey Mark, Hey,

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01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 1: how you doing. I'm good, Thanks for your call. So, UM,

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01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: I listened to you a lot um in Navy VET.

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01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: I live out here in California. I deal with all

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01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: the California things, but not my question their point today. UM,

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01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: I was listening about the Kurds earlier, and you seem

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01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 1: really passionate about that we need to help them. And

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01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm all for helping countries military militarily wise, but as

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01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 1: far as you're reasoning behind it, um that uh uh,

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01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: we fought side by side, and they saved a lot

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Speaker 1: of American lives. Um, But weren't they defending their own

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01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: lands and we were there helping them at that point? Sure,

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Speaker 1: But but if you look at the if you look

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01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: at the period of the Iraq insurgency from say, two

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01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: thousand and four to two thousand and nine, we could

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01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: not count on very many Sunni Arab or Shia Arab

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01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 1: military units in Iraq to UH to be trustworthy on

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01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 1: the ground. I mean, that was a constant problem. You

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01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: had desertion rates, you had or you had desertion problems.

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01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: You had UH enormous, enormous attrition of many of the

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Speaker 1: units that we trained. The Kurds would stay and fight.

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Speaker 1: At your point about defending their own land. The courage,

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01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: in fact, would go well outside of their territory to

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01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: help us. The Kurds were deployed well beyond the borders

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01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: of what is now Curtis Stan in order to try

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Speaker 1: to help stabilize Iraq, and we're very effective. Go ahead,

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01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: you have to fight. You have to fight outside your

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01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 1: boundaries to secure your own Um. If you just live

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01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 1: in your little hole, you're never gonna be able to

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01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: design yourself. UM. But I think that a more effective

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01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 1: way to to try to get this Iranian UM supported

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01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 1: force out of UH. Yeah, the the I r g

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01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 1: C and all the Sheia militias that are operating under

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01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 1: their command. Yeah, right, would be heavy economic pressure on Iran,

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01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: so they couldn't afford to go. Well, that was the

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01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: idea before and then Obama decided that we were going

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01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: to lift the heavy, heavy economic pressure, right, and that's

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01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: been happening. But you can, I can I do eight

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01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: years of badness kind of have to push forward. And

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01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: I just don't want to see us getting into another battle,

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01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: uh you know somewhere else. Well, I hope that I

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01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 1: that As I've been working through this on air, Mark,

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01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: I've been I've been clear about how I I am

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01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: not advocating that you know, we we land a marine

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01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 1: expeditionary force in in northern Iraq and say all right,

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01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna you know, we're marching on Baghdad with the

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01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 1: Kurds or anything like that, right, I mean, that would

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01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 1: be crazy. But there are ways that we can influence

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Speaker 1: Baghdad to one know that we expect that they don't uh,

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01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 1: you know, go deep into Kurdistan and try to punish

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01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: them for the referendum or teach them some kind of

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01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: a lesson militarily and too. I think we need to

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01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 1: start and maybe the conversation is under way, Mark, but

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01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: having a conversation with Bagdad about Look, Kurdistan is essentially

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01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 1: already a reality, right, That's what it's important to keep

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01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 1: in mind. They have their own military, they have their

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01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: own currency, they have their own language that you know,

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01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,719
Speaker 1: in what way are they meaningfully a part of Iraq?

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01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 1: And when you ask the government and bad Dad that,

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01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: I think they would just get very huffy and and indignant.

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01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: But I don't think they'd have a good answer. Well,

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01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 1: let me I ask you a question, because I don't

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01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 1: know a lot about Kurdistan. Is it possible to uh

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01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 1: do heavy investment economically into Kurdistan? Absolutely that the Turks

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01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 1: have invested, have invested serious cash in Kurdistan for for

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01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 1: a long time now. I mean Kurdistan. For those of

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01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 1: you who ever been there, it kind of I mean,

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01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 1: don't tell the Turks this. It kind of feels like Turkey.

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01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of it. You'll be like, oh,

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01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: the food, the food is kind of like Turkish food,

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01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,959
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I know, my daughter was just two

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01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: years Oh yeah, so look Turk hey turn food is great.

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01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: By the way. Side note, but um, don't donnor donor

1224
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: Kebab gets the job done every time. And if you're

1225
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: going to Germany, that's on every corner. Um. But um yeah,

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01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: I mean I guess I didn't understand your approach. If

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01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,839
Speaker 1: your approach is more an economic one. It's economic and political.

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01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 1: I am I would never Look, I don't. I'm so

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01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: happy about what's going on in a Rock and series

1230
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: because it shows that by picking a reliable ally with

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01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 1: a ground force that is is is reasonable and is

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01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 1: willing to fight against the bad guys, we can get

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01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff done. Right. We don't have to

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01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 1: be sending guys like you from California, Alabama, Virginia, you know, Massachusetts,

1235
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 1: you name it. We don't have to be sending hours

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01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: to go do the fighting for them. But there are

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01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: ways that we can help. In the case of Curtistan,

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01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 1: there I think are levers that we can pull that

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01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 1: would uh push for a political solution to what's going

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01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: on with this Kurdish independence movement and and get bag

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01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 1: Dad to start to see it our way. Look, there

1242
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: are also inducements, right, I'm sure there are some things

1243
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 1: that bag Dad would like from us that maybe we

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01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: could make happen if there are amenable to the idea

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01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 1: of a Kurdish region. So anyway, so mark with that,

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Speaker 1: I will thank you for your service and thank you

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01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 1: for your call um. Look, you know one more thing,

1248
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: who is the and this I didn't get to talk

1249
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: about this before, and maybe this is two in the weeds,

1250
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I'm guessing I'm maybe one of

1251
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 1: like three radio hosts in the country right now who

1252
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 1: knows who Alan is without having to to google it

1253
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: and do like a on the spot research. So he

1254
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 1: is the founder of the p k K, which is

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01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: a Kurdish UH terrorists liberation movement in Turkey and started

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01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: in the eighties and responsible for tens of thousands of deaths.

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01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: Alan was captured and was sentenced to death initially, but

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01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: then because the Turks wanted entry into native UH, they

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01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: got rid of or maybe it was in their bid

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01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 1: for the EU. I forgetten that which obviously didn't happen,

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01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 1: but they got they dropped the death penalty and and

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01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: Allan is in prison, but he's been advocating for a

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01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 1: political settlement to the Kurdish issue from prison, notably for

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01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: quite some time now. And that's for Turkey, right So

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01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: there are ways to approach this, I think from a

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01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: political perspective that would be that would be effective and

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01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: the p k K. This should also be noted, it

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01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: is a big banner right now. You know, the Syrian

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01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 1: democratic forces. I saw this all over social media on

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01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: some of the national security accounts that I follow. It's

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01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: not getting much attention because most people have no idea

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01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: who is. But you listen to this show, so now

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01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 1: you know founder of the p k K, a Kurdish

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01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 1: terrorist group in Turkey that wants to create a Kurdistan

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01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: in Turkey. But and And has done some very and

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01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 1: it was a very did some very bad things killing

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01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: sever Alien's terrorist group. Right, p kk kurtis Dan Workers Party.

1278
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 1: But Ochelon's portrait has been popping up in the middle

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Speaker 1: of Rocca because there's connectivity between the Syrian Democratic Forces,

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Speaker 1: the SDF, who we've been using as our ground force.

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Speaker 1: Not entirely Kurdish. There are also Syrian Arabs who are

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Speaker 1: part of that Syrian Democratic Forces coalition. But you have

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Speaker 1: a lot of Kords and they like uh, they like Alan,

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Speaker 1: who's now pushing for a political settlement. But in Turkey

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Speaker 1: this is very sensitive. He's considered a terrorist. He's engaging

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Speaker 1: in terrorist activities, blowing up civilian areas, attacking military targets

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Speaker 1: inside Turkey. Yea, so that's a little additional backster. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: Achelon's photo is popping up on huge banners in the

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Speaker 1: middle of Rocca right now, you can imagine what the

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Speaker 1: Turks think of that. To us, well, to Americans, everyone's like,

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Speaker 1: who's this Ochlan dude? Right, people don't have to know

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Speaker 1: and don't know who cares. To the Turks it is

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Speaker 1: is a big deal. Uh. They they do not like

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Speaker 1: seeing that and unless though, I mean, I have no

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Speaker 1: reason to believe those photos were doctor, but I've seen

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Speaker 1: them shared pretty widely on social media of the STF

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Speaker 1: putting up photos of chalons. Anyway, Um, with that in mind,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about, and this is probably gonna

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Speaker 1: drag you to the next segment too, I want to

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the Bernie Sanders Ted Cruise

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Speaker 1: throwdown that happened last night on CNN. Some very interesting moments.

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Speaker 1: The most interesting of all though, Hey Bernie, he's back.

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Speaker 1: He's talking about socialism, you know, stuff, giving your stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'll give it all the people. It will be better

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Speaker 1: for you. Bernie's out there with Cruise, and Cruise who

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Speaker 1: is a skilled debater, got him at one point to

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Speaker 1: finally answer a question that I think many of us

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Speaker 1: have been wondering about for some time. What exactly is

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Speaker 1: the difference between a a socialist and a democrat. And

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Speaker 1: here is what the burn had to say in response.

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Speaker 1: Let me just ask, since this is a tax debate,

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Speaker 1: what is the difference between a socialist and a democrat

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Speaker 1: on Texas. I don't know, but here's what I think.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a democratic socialists that's similar to the

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Speaker 1: people in Denmark and Sweden and Norway and Finland have

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Speaker 1: biology much highest standard of living than we have, much

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Speaker 1: highest standard of living than we have, much better. A

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Speaker 1: few things. First of all, those are not truly socialist countries,

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Speaker 1: so start with that. They're really just countries that have

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Speaker 1: a large welfare state and high taxes. But you in

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Speaker 1: fact have some greater economic freedom in some of those

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Speaker 1: countries for businesses and corporations than you even do in America,

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Speaker 1: which Bernie Sanders does not know. He has no idea.

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Speaker 1: If you asked me, people like what are you talking

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Speaker 1: about the socialists? Uh No, they believe in a large

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Speaker 1: a large large state, services, lots of entitlement programs, and

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Speaker 1: like our own entiti and program you pay into in

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Speaker 1: the form of taxes. They just have much higher taxes.

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Speaker 1: So then one wants to pose the question of okay,

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Speaker 1: so What is the difference then, between what Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 1: wants and what they want in Denmark. The answer is nothing,

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Speaker 1: which means that, yeah, he's gonna have to raise your

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Speaker 1: taxes a whole lot. Uh, he's gonna have to make

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Speaker 1: the time. I mean the tax rate. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: sitting around here talking about, oh, the top marginal rate

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Speaker 1: might be thirty, might be twenty nine, might be thirty nine.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're in that neighborhood. If you want Denmark's

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Speaker 1: welfare state, if you want the free school and keeping

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Speaker 1: my Denmarks a much smaller country and doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: twenty trillion dollar debt already. I should note that it's

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Speaker 1: dealing with but if you want all that, you're talking

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Speaker 1: about an income tax rate in the neighborhood of more

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Speaker 1: like a sixty is seventy, and when you get to

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Speaker 1: a certain rate, I think it's even higher than that,

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Speaker 1: you know, without all the loopholes. I mean, that's actually

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Speaker 1: what you're paying in taxes. And Bernie pretty much had

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Speaker 1: to admit that if we could explain to people, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be paying more in taxes, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a progressive taxes. The wealthy you're gonna pay their fair shaw,

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Speaker 1: not the middle class, not the working class, but everybody

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Speaker 1: will pay some more. But you're gonna get free healthcare,

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Speaker 1: and maybe you're gonna get free childcare, and maybe your

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Speaker 1: kids are gonna be able to go to college to

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Speaker 1: wish them free. You know what, You're gonna be better

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Speaker 1: off than on the Texas Center. See, this is the

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Speaker 1: big This is the the big and unavoidable lie. When

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Speaker 1: you get somebody like Bernie Sanders out there who's talking

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Speaker 1: about how we want to be like Swede, we want

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Speaker 1: to be like Norway. And I should note that given

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Speaker 1: some of their recent issues with immigration and their welfare states,

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Speaker 1: there there are concerns about whether they're even able to

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Speaker 1: continue as they have been. But here is what Bernie

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Speaker 1: Sanders really doesn't want to tell you. Here's a Bernie

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Speaker 1: Sanders really doesn't want to get into to give you

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Speaker 1: the welfare state in this country. For all of you

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Speaker 1: listening across the country. If you want Swedish government services,

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Speaker 1: if you want Denmark's government services, never you can't take

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Speaker 1: Norway in their Norway has got a tremendous amount of

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Speaker 1: oral reserves and a very small population. You know, so

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Speaker 1: that's a different difference. But if you want, let's say

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Speaker 1: the Swedish model for America, the middle class in Sweden

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Speaker 1: pays incredibly high taxes. Everybody who is an earner pays

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Speaker 1: very very high taxes. So those you are seeing listening

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Speaker 1: to the show, you're like, Yeah, Sweden for America, that

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Speaker 1: sounds pretty good. Okay, if you're making for to R

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Speaker 1: fifty grand year, you're gonna be paying fifty or sixty

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Speaker 1: percent of your incoming You're gonna be paying all in.

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Speaker 1: When you add in all the different taxes they have

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Speaker 1: in a place like Sweden, you're gonna be paying a

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Speaker 1: big chunk of your income to the government. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and do you trust the government to do a good

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Speaker 1: job with your money? I certainly don't think so. I mean,

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Speaker 1: look at the government versus we already have in this

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Speaker 1: country and the debt we've run up with them. So

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Speaker 1: not only can we not have Sweden services because we

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Speaker 1: don't have the taxes Sweden has, we don't have the

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Speaker 1: bureaucrats that Sweden has. Either. He's back with you now,

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Speaker 1: because when it comes to the fight for truth, the

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Speaker 1: fuck never stops. Jessica in Denver, I heart app listener. Hey, Jessica,

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Speaker 1: what's up. Jessica? Hey, how are you doing. I'm doing great. UM.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you a little bit. You

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Speaker 1: tried very hard a week or so ago to really

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Speaker 1: make the case about why Cappaminia's separation from Spain was important. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's important because the president it sets, yeah, right, And

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Speaker 1: I think that because well exactly, UM, I think that

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Speaker 1: it is important, and it's important now too in view

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Speaker 1: of the Kurdish situation. And I kind of wanted to

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Speaker 1: contrast those two. Um, separatist movements all means. So I

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Speaker 1: lived in I lived in Spain for twenty five years,

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Speaker 1: and UM am super familiar with the catalanzan there and

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Speaker 1: they're grpes. Um. This is something that's left over since

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Speaker 1: the Spanish Civil War. In Catalunia, there was a huge

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Speaker 1: anarchist movement. UM. And I love buck if you talk

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Speaker 1: to us about what the heck and anarchist is someday,

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Speaker 1: And honestly, it's kind of hard to understand even I

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Speaker 1: mean even me and even anarchists don't really know what

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Speaker 1: anarchists are. To be honest with you, I've read Mikhail

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Speaker 1: Bakun in uh and and bakun In is somebody who's

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Speaker 1: really kind of a heretic from socialism and collectivism, but

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Speaker 1: had some very interesting things to say about the failures

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Speaker 1: of them. But he was he was an anarchist. Bacun

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Speaker 1: In was an anarchist, Russian anarchist. Anyway, go ahead, Well

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll talk about that another day. On God and

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Speaker 1: on God in the state. Yeah, okay. So the thing is,

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Speaker 1: Catalunia has been a part of Spain for five hundred years, okay,

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Speaker 1: since Isabelle and Ferdinand joined together and made Spain one country.

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Speaker 1: And Catalunia has its language, but its language is really

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Speaker 1: similar to Spanish. I mean really, I speak Spanish, I

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Speaker 1: understand Catalan and UM. So their you know, argument that

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Speaker 1: they have a different language. They've always been um one

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Speaker 1: of the most wealthy areas. Their grapes right now have

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Speaker 1: to do with UM, with taxes and taxation, and they

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Speaker 1: don't want to pay, you know, they want to be socialists,

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Speaker 1: but they don't want to pay for other regions in Spain.

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Speaker 1: And this is kind of what's been fomenting along with

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Speaker 1: the real sense of you know, their language, their culture

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Speaker 1: or whatever. It's kind of fu foud. I don't think

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Speaker 1: the Curds that that is the issue with the Curds

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Speaker 1: at all. I think the Curds are the real deal,

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Speaker 1: you know, whereas Catalunia are kind of like a spoiled

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Speaker 1: bread having a hissy fit. Um. Yeah, well this is

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Speaker 1: like I think it's important and you're bringing this up.

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Speaker 1: So to contrast the situations, the Catalans are in a stable,

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Speaker 1: prosperous you know. I know it's kind it's economic problems,

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01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 1: but but Spain has been for quite a while now

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Speaker 1: a nice place to leave me. You live there for

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Speaker 1: twenty five years, right, It's beautiful, it's safe, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's awesome, it's great food, it's yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a great Spain is a great place. I mean. The

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Speaker 1: Curds have spent the last thirty or forty years trying

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Speaker 1: not to be eradicated by extremists, crazies, dictators, and they've

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Speaker 1: been a good friend to us the whole way. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can imagine why you think of it, almost like

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Speaker 1: the the Catalans and the Kurds are both requesting a

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Speaker 1: divorce so to speak. Uh, you know, the Catalans weren't

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Speaker 1: divorced because they want you know, they think there's something

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Speaker 1: better out there and they want to go. On some dates,

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Speaker 1: the Curds were a divorce because they're in a really

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01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 1: dangerous and terrible situation they need to get out of

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01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 1: exactly right on. And the European Common Market has said

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Speaker 1: to Catalunia, you won't you know, we will not take

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Speaker 1: you in, and of course they can't because it has

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Speaker 1: to be write a unanimous vote in Spain will never

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Speaker 1: let the let Catalunia go in, you know, become a

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Speaker 1: part of the European Common Market. The places closed down.

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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court said of Spain that this vote was illegal,

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Speaker 1: which is why the only people who showed out on

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Speaker 1: this latest vote on the eleven, who showed up for

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Speaker 1: the latest vote on the October one were of course

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Speaker 1: the radicals. Because the normal people didn't show up. They

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Speaker 1: showed up on October eighth and filled the streets of

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Speaker 1: Barcelona and said no, are you kidding? We don't want

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Speaker 1: to be separate. Moreover, there was an election, yeah, about two,

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Speaker 1: three or four months ago, where they voted whether to

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Speaker 1: vote in Catalunia and the people said no. So there

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Speaker 1: is like no comparison between what the Kurds have gone

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Speaker 1: through as you say, Buck and what cuts in Catalunia's

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Speaker 1: little hissy fit. There's just no no comparison. Best city

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Speaker 1: to visit if you're going for the first time of Spain,

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Speaker 1: which I've never been, so best city visit is, oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness, oh so many, oh so difficult Granada, Granada.

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Speaker 1: I will put the top lot. Tell miss Molly that's

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Speaker 1: top of the list. Now. Thank you so much, Jessica

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Speaker 1: for calling it, for calling it from Denner at Denver Shilta.

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01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:17,679
Speaker 1: So um so many wonderful callers on the Bucks Action Show.

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01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 1: The rule is wonderful callers. The exception. Occasionally we get

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Speaker 1: somebody who's not, so that's not good, but we've had

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Speaker 1: some in this hour, some great callers. UM. Let's take

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Speaker 1: a moment to talk about snowflake is um, shall we?

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01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 1: And trigger warnings. I haven't talked to you about college

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01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 1: campus stuff all that much lately until I know we

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01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 1: just discussed the Spencer Richard Spencer speech, and I already

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01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:44,720
Speaker 1: feel like I've given that too much our time. But

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Speaker 1: you've had a couple of news reports in the last

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Speaker 1: week or so about how you just can't expose kids

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Speaker 1: these days to great literature, and I don't mean kind

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Speaker 1: of sort of maybe great litter. I mean the greatest

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Speaker 1: literature you have Cambridge University students. Now, Cambridge is one

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Speaker 1: of the oldest and most stuart Hello Cambridge, so fancy

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Speaker 1: they even think the fancier than the American Ivy League.

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Speaker 1: Ivy League is kind of the new vet reach of

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Speaker 1: the university world. But Cambridge students are now being treated

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Speaker 1: to trigger warnings for Shakespeare plays. Can't just be expected

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Speaker 1: to handle the greatest playwright of the English language and

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest playwrights of all civilizations of any time.

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Speaker 1: It can't be expected to just read it. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, no one's saying you're you're having you know,

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Speaker 1: ten year old sit there and start making their way

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Speaker 1: through Hamlet or Titus Andronicus or something. But you know,

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Speaker 1: once you're in high school, college, you think you could

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Speaker 1: read some Shakespeare, it'd be all right, you should know

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Speaker 1: what's going on. I'm sure there's far too little Shakespeare

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Speaker 1: reading going on in here. Shakespeare is not taught nearly

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Speaker 1: enough in school anymore. And there's such a focus on

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Speaker 1: oh there's too many male authors, too many Western authors,

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Speaker 1: too many Eurocentric authors. Whatever. And in all these really

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Speaker 1: kind of mediocre to subpar academics just go along with

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Speaker 1: these fads at the expense of the true greats Shakespeare

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Speaker 1: and others. So they get trigger warnings for Shakespeare plays, uh,

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Speaker 1: which is deeply it's worthy of mockery. But it's also

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Speaker 1: it's just it is sad. And this is this is

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Speaker 1: now a part of not just American culture about it's

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Speaker 1: certainly part of European Canadian culture that that people can't

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Speaker 1: just read great literature. They have to be concerned about

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Speaker 1: what that literature may or may not do to the

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Speaker 1: psyche of the reader. And if you think this is

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Speaker 1: I know you're dragging Cambridge. Hello Cambridge, Hello Cambridge is

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Speaker 1: two time. Uh. You've also got this here in America,

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Speaker 1: as you alreadyknew, as all kinds of books. Now what

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Speaker 1: Tom Sawyer has has been pulled from some from booklyn

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Speaker 1: I I could sit here and do a whole show

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Speaker 1: and just all the different books that were no longer

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Speaker 1: able to talk about or have because you know, having

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Speaker 1: schools because they might offend somebody. You can't do Peter

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Speaker 1: Pan anymore, because of all the stuff with the Native

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Speaker 1: Americans and Peter Pan. You can't have Peter Pan plays.

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Speaker 1: But the latest heire to add to our list of

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Speaker 1: trigger warnings and snowflake is um is that there is

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Speaker 1: a concern. This is report in the l A Times,

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Speaker 1: among other places, a school district is so concerned about

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Speaker 1: to kill a mockingbird that it has pulled it from

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Speaker 1: shelves because it makes people uncomfortable. Ah, artwork, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting. I remember being in some very uh some

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Speaker 1: some pretty pretentious I want lie, some pretty pretentious college

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Speaker 1: classes on English literature and art and art history. I

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Speaker 1: took a few of them in my day. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna lie, I'm keeping it real. And I remember that

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Speaker 1: one of the professors saying, how do you define art?

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Speaker 1: And it was fascinating to see all these college kids

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Speaker 1: go around, some of us shaking off our hangovers in

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Speaker 1: the night before trying to and others not just drinking stuff.

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Speaker 1: There was other stuff going on there too. But you know,

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Speaker 1: family show. So we'll talk about those substances maybe another time.

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Speaker 1: He me, and the I mean or history class, and

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Speaker 1: we've got like, do you do do you do drums

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Speaker 1: in the circule your history class? The answer was sometimes

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Speaker 1: by the way that yeah, I know, I know, I

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Speaker 1: have to, I have to open up the Buck College

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Speaker 1: files at some point and tell you what, tell you

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Speaker 1: all the stuff that I was subjected to. But people

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Speaker 1: try to go around and define what art was, and

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Speaker 1: it's not a not an easy thing to do, not

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Speaker 1: a straightforward definition, and in fact you get a lot

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Speaker 1: of different definitions for different people, but evoking some response

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Speaker 1: from the viewer, the reader, the listener, that's usually a

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Speaker 1: baseline definition of what art is. Right. It is something

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Speaker 1: that that produces a response in in the people that

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Speaker 1: are consuming that piece of art in one way or another.

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Speaker 1: And that to kill a mockingbird makes people a little upset.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a novel about a black man

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Speaker 1: who is wrongfully accused of sexual assaulting as a white woman.

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Speaker 1: And that this book would make people uncomfortable and so

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Speaker 1: then it would get pulled from shelves. Is just indicative

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Speaker 1: of the scholastic rot that is so pervasive these days

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Speaker 1: at schools no longer see themselves as places for just

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Speaker 1: learning and the pursuit of truth. Schools are, even at

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Speaker 1: the high school and college level, kind of like daycare centers.

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Speaker 1: You know, just everyone has to be safe, everyone has

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Speaker 1: to be kind it's juice time, you know, can they

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Speaker 1: have some cookies? That's not the way it's supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: And reading books that are a little disturbing, reading books

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Speaker 1: that are thought provoking and that yes, may even offend

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Speaker 1: some people. That's a necessary part of all of this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are other books that are that have

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Speaker 1: been pulled just because of the usage of certain racial slurs,

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Speaker 1: most most commonly because of the slurs that appear in

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Speaker 1: the book against African Americans. But how are we to know,

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Speaker 1: you know, on the one hand, you have the and

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Speaker 1: this is this all comes from the left, but you'll

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Speaker 1: never see conservatives standing like, we can't read this novel

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Speaker 1: because it's you know, in schools. Let's pull it from

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Speaker 1: the shelves the left. The book burners are on the left,

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Speaker 1: you know. The maybe they're not burn them, they're pulling

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Speaker 1: them from shelves. And it can have the same effect

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Speaker 1: on the right. I think, because we're so used to

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Speaker 1: being uh assaulted, sometimes physically, but I mean attack for

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Speaker 1: our ideas in general, that we have no x We

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Speaker 1: we don't have this expectation that you don't have an

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Speaker 1: expectation of a safe space right, whether you're you know,

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Speaker 1: at a parent teacher meeting, talking to some parents in

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Speaker 1: the hallway at the high school, or you're in your office,

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Speaker 1: or you know, on your way to pick up the

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Speaker 1: kids and you're talking to one of your friends. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know that if you say, yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think that I think that Trump's doing a pretty good

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Speaker 1: job at the economy. How dare you Trump is so evil?

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Speaker 1: You're such a mean person. You know you're used to that.

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Speaker 1: So because that's the response that a lot of conservatives

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Speaker 1: will get. They understand that this is life is going

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Speaker 1: to happen. But on the left they think they can

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Speaker 1: create a perfect little universe where there will be no

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Speaker 1: scary There will be no scary things that happen. No

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Speaker 1: mean books will be ever be read, and I should

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Speaker 1: not if Shakespeare's too bothersome for you, How are you

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Speaker 1: going to read the Bible and just putting that out there?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you you think that you might run some problems.

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Speaker 1: There's I mean, there's some pretty into and stuff in

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Speaker 1: the Bible. Everybody, as you know, right, So where does

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Speaker 1: this end? It's just nonsense and it's so counterproductive. And

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Speaker 1: I don't like to always just harp, you know, point

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Speaker 1: out every instance of it because it happens across the country.

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Speaker 1: But it's important, and it's important for those you're listening,

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Speaker 1: especially if you have school aged children or college aged

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Speaker 1: kids or soon to be that either you encourage them too.

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01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 1: It's easier than ever, um, and more effective than ever

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01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:32,679
Speaker 1: to to come up with your own outside reading lists

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01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 1: and and do your own research and and question even

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Speaker 1: if you don't. I don't advocate going toe to toe

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Speaker 1: with professors. And I know this is a debate I've

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Speaker 1: had with many conservatives because I don't want you to

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Speaker 1: get a C minus and then not get the job

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Speaker 1: you want on graduation because you're trying to make a

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Speaker 1: point about what you believe. I'm you know, you know

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01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 1: you can determine your own boundaries on this. But if

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Speaker 1: you if you gotta, if you've got to engage in

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Speaker 1: a little bit of fakery to get past the progressive

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Speaker 1: gatekeepers in academia when you're a student, UM, I think

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Speaker 1: I think you're allowed to. Personally, I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 1: But coming up with your own reading list and your

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Speaker 1: own approach to what's necessary or your for one's education,

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Speaker 1: for your kids education too, it's it's very important right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was just and I've got to go

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Speaker 1: to break here. I'm going along on this one, but

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Speaker 1: I just saw the other day that of New York

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Speaker 1: City public school kids like New York for a lot

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Speaker 1: of you, I know you're you don't come here, you

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Speaker 1: don't really care that much what's happened in this town.

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Speaker 1: But it's the biggest city in the country, so it's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good sense of what's going on of public

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Speaker 1: school graduates who go to college. So that's already a

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Speaker 1: subset right of those who go to college. You graduate

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Speaker 1: from New York City public schools need remedial math and

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01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 1: reading training when they go to college, community college, whatever,

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01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 1: it may be. Eight out of ten. So you can't

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01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:57,960
Speaker 1: just trust the system to teach your kids, and you

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01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:00,680
Speaker 1: can't just trust the system to teach you, and you

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Speaker 1: certainly can't let them ban books or tell you that

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01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 1: it's worthy of a trigger warning. Thank you so much

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01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 1: for hanging out looking today in the Freedom Hunt team.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't already, please go and subscribe to the

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Speaker 1: podcast as well. It's a buck sext in with America

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Speaker 1: Now and it's a great way to get somebody else

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Speaker 1: who's not already listening to show to join in all

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Speaker 1: allows people to stream the show anywhere across the country

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Speaker 1: or around the world for that matter, as long as

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Speaker 1: you have cellular or internet connection. Just go to the

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Speaker 1: i Heart app and buck sext in with America. Now

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Speaker 1: you type that in, you are in business. Also, I

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01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 1: had right before it came on our ms, Molly sent

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Speaker 1: me a photo of a litter of puppies that were

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Speaker 1: just turned into a local shelter. I have a feeling

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be going to see some puppies this weekend.

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Speaker 1: I have I have a sneaking suspicion that the photo

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Speaker 1: of the puppies in a cardboard box that we're just

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Speaker 1: dropped off at a note and it's a no kill shelter.

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Speaker 1: I had a feeling that they would um that it

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Speaker 1: will result in me having to go and check out

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Speaker 1: some puppies, which I mean, I'm not complaining, right, it's puppies.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. But it made me think as

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Speaker 1: well of a story from earlier in the day, and

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Speaker 1: I look, we had that house guest of the the

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Speaker 1: pit Boxer Mix, and yeah, this is she was a

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Speaker 1: nice guy, but a lot of a lot of dogs.

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Speaker 1: You need to go a little smaller than sixties six pounds.

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Speaker 1: But I was reading this story today about how dogs

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Speaker 1: manipulated this is like this is now hashtag science. Dogs

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Speaker 1: manipulate us with their eyes, So puppy dog eyes is

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Speaker 1: actually a thing that they've they've been studying this now,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is what scientists do. I guess right,

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Speaker 1: some of them. Uh, they've been studying this. And when dogs,

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Speaker 1: you know, when they want food or they want attention,

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Speaker 1: you know, their eyes get bigger. And they know, right,

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Speaker 1: they know from the responses that when they give us,

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Speaker 1: they give us the cute puppy face, even if they're

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Speaker 1: not puppies anymore. We go, okay, I'm gonna give you,

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Speaker 1: you know, you can have a treat, you know. And

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Speaker 1: I look, I'm guilty as charge every time I get

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Speaker 1: the cute puppy face. And my parents have a white

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Speaker 1: French bulldog, Uh, to Lula, and whenever to Lula wants something,

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Speaker 1: you know, she gives you the cute face. And then

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Speaker 1: she kind of goes like she makes like a little

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Speaker 1: little not a sneeze, but kind of just a little noise.

1694
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 1: I can't really explain it. And then she kind of

1695
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:32,639
Speaker 1: tries to talk to you a little bit too, which

1696
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:37,759
Speaker 1: is you know, and Harold the Boxer mitched a boxer

1697
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 1: mix does the same, does the same thing, you know,

1698
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 1: you know when he wants food and I'm like, you're

1699
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 1: killing me here, guys, come on, I know what you're saying.

1700
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 1: You treat. But they but science now tells us that

1701
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:54,600
Speaker 1: with the eyes when they go and then got the

1702
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 1: eyes all wide. They know, man, they know they've got you.

1703
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 1: They know that that treat or that a piece of

1704
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 1: bacon you're hiding in the palm of your hand, you're

1705
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:03,960
Speaker 1: gonna slip them under the table. It's just a matter

1706
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 1: of just a matter of a few a few more

1707
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 1: looks with those big puppy eyes all or the puppy eyes.

1708
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 1: I can't help it. It's what happens. We're gonna have

1709
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 1: a fun show tomorrow, my friends, Freestyle Friday in effect,

1710
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 1: maybe even some action movie quote Friday going on. So

1711
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:23,679
Speaker 1: please join me then and until then, feel tigh.