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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast Football is Bashed.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of.

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Speaker 1: From the Chris Westling podcast studio.

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Speaker 3: It's around the NFL. Dan Kansas Heroes, Greg Rooseveal Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 3: Week one of the preseason in doubles, and now I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna do my best fireman d here we go.

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Speaker 4: I'm taking it down. Let's get a lot of silence

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Speaker 4: in the room, get the whole building silent, get it silent.

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Speaker 5: Then a sixty yard field goal trying to close.

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Speaker 2: Out the half.

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Speaker 6: Tucker got the leg into it as.

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Speaker 3: Josh Tucker, are you kidding me? Who said the preseason

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Speaker 3: has no juice?

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Speaker 2: Some go so hard? Never heard that? That's horn.

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Speaker 6: We've never been to steep into the production.

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Speaker 3: Justin Tucker in the first preseason game, just drills one

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Speaker 3: from six.

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Speaker 1: The they win by one point.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens twenty nineteen over the defending NFC champion Eagles.

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Speaker 3: And now they've won goddamn near our quarter of one

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Speaker 3: hundred games in a row in the preseason, the greatest

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Speaker 3: streak since Joe Demagio. That's how you start the preseason.

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Speaker 6: I love it.

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Speaker 7: They definitively are angling to win these games, and with

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Speaker 7: each victory, it becomes a more impossible record to reach

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Speaker 7: for any other team with the way that the preseason

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Speaker 7: is because think about it. Also, with one less preseason

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Speaker 7: game every year, it will take that many more years

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Speaker 7: for a team to even get there. And they won't.

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Speaker 7: They won't get there. It's never going to be matched.

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Speaker 7: If it does, you can take me out with a bullet.

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Speaker 7: I'm telling you right now, it never will be. And

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Speaker 7: I also learned something about JM. L. Sas and hype.

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Speaker 7: You know, best case scenario, just do the job.

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Speaker 8: But like I think, the Bells have won like ten

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Speaker 8: straight or something like that, so there at least you.

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Speaker 2: Have five more years of Aaron.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like when this streak started, you had children

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Speaker 7: that weren't even born yet.

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Speaker 3: What that's absolutely true. Harrison wasn't on this planet yet.

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Speaker 3: If a female, if an assassin.

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Speaker 1: Took you out.

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Speaker 3: Mark from the sixth floor of Amiba Records in Hollywood,

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Speaker 3: right not here.

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Speaker 6: I thought, I thought, you're gonna sah Parking Ground.

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Speaker 1: And you look up.

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Speaker 2: If it has been closed for.

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Speaker 1: Many they moved and open to a new location.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and it's huge Hollywood and Vine from the Book Depository.

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Speaker 3: You look up your dying breath because I know what

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Speaker 3: you're thinking. You're saying, Oh, that better be like a leggy,

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Speaker 3: brunette assassin. Okay, what if it's like fat, middle aged

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Speaker 3: guy named Butch. Well, that's disappointing. I don't think that's rushing.

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Speaker 3: Even worse than the death itself would be that's who

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Speaker 3: got me after all the fantasizing about the female assassin

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Speaker 3: to get a.

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Speaker 7: Book, it would be. It would be the wrong way

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Speaker 7: to go. I think they I have wrong. Is like,

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Speaker 7: if were I taken out by anyone's bullet, it would

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Speaker 7: not be categorized as an assassination.

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Speaker 6: It would just be a murder.

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Speaker 2: We would call it that because you could. I would at.

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Speaker 3: Least frame it, and I would frame it as just

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Speaker 3: because it would. Then it would have a political undertone,

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Speaker 3: and it would make Greg and I see more importance.

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Speaker 3: We'd say it's connected to the show somehow and taking

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Speaker 3: us out.

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Speaker 6: And leverage it, and any I won't be here to stop.

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Speaker 1: You'll be a martyr.

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Speaker 8: Just imagining the person would like just getting into football.

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Speaker 8: Turned on this podcast for the very first time today.

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Speaker 8: The first two minutes seemed to be some sort of

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Speaker 8: hallucination Uh, that's going on.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry.

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Speaker 2: This is real football fascination talk.

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Speaker 3: Because coming up later today our old buddy Ross Tucker,

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Speaker 3: former offensive alignment Uh. He wrote a nice piece over

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Speaker 3: there on the thirty third team dot dot com got

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Speaker 3: emotional just thinking, I mean conversation. It's a website that

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Speaker 3: does that some people. So Ross Tucker his tears of

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Speaker 3: offensive lines. And if you don't think that that's not

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Speaker 3: vitally important in this sport we call football.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you don't know what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: You're paying too much attention to political controversies and assassination

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Speaker 3: attempts and not enough attention to ball. It's one in

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Speaker 3: the trenches. And Ross knows what he's talking about. So

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Speaker 3: he's gonna come on talk about those tears. But before

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Speaker 3: we get into that, yes, preseason week one, it's done,

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Speaker 3: So why don't we just have a little conversation. I

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Speaker 3: think a good way to get into this is Uh

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Speaker 3: and Randy behind the glass today. Eric will be back

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Speaker 3: later in the week and we'll have some things to

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Speaker 3: catch up with with mister Roberts, but we'll leave it

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Speaker 3: at that for now.

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Speaker 1: Randy, we're going to talk about who popped and who flopped.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we were work shopping a different name.

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Speaker 2: But we've right.

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Speaker 8: I thought we were going with who popped it? Hoo

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Speaker 8: pooped that that was a big surprise.

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Speaker 3: Uh, listen, there's a couple of different routes we could

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Speaker 3: have gone, but then the poop sound effect would have

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Speaker 3: been maybe not I don't ears audience, and that actually

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Speaker 3: was you know, I think of children.

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Speaker 7: You typically would gamble on the fact that I wouldn't

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Speaker 7: probably weigh in with ideas pre show when I'm on

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Speaker 7: my way here, came in with a gem. Yeah, I

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Speaker 7: mean that just came to me. I said, I have

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Speaker 7: to share this with the group who was getting ha

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Speaker 7: ha has on the on the.

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Speaker 1: Big old lo L's big old digital belly.

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Speaker 6: Lafe and it just gets you know, thrown out of

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Speaker 6: the cab.

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Speaker 2: You can still use it. You could use this go rogue.

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Speaker 1: How about how about next week for the preseason, because

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Speaker 1: I know you guys.

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Speaker 8: Don't need to have you don't need to have a

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Speaker 8: sound effect for for this for you, if you talk

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Speaker 8: about it, we'll give it.

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Speaker 2: We'll get better without it at that.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, it's not we'll do never, We'll do if

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Speaker 3: we have if we have a segment called hohopopped?

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Speaker 1: Who pooped? And we're not having some type of poop

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Speaker 1: sound effect? What do we even hear for?

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Speaker 3: I agree, So next time we do preseason takeaways, we'll

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Speaker 3: call it that name.

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Speaker 6: That's fair.

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Speaker 7: How about I think it's equitable equitables right, Well, we're

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Speaker 7: a team, so you use everyone's ideas.

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Speaker 1: The other words. I love it. See the togetherness, the teamwork.

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Speaker 1: Football is back, kind of who popped?

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Speaker 3: In Week one of the preseason, Greg, I'll start with you.

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Speaker 8: You know I'm gonna start with the same note I

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Speaker 8: started my sixty eight takeaways from.

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Speaker 2: The WHOA season. You can check you on NFL dot com.

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Speaker 8: Like I thought, you have to start with DeMar Hamlin

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Speaker 8: just because of everything that we watched and went through

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Speaker 8: last year that he went through rather and to see

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Speaker 8: him out on the field and like we've been taking

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Speaker 8: these steps in the process that like you expected him

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Speaker 8: to be back, but it still was different, at least

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Speaker 8: for me as a viewer watching him out on that field,

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Speaker 8: and he was very active, like any any hesitation you

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Speaker 8: see that on the field. He was knifing down, he

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Speaker 8: was very active in the run game. He was blitzing

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Speaker 8: like they almost felt like they were trying to get involved.

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Speaker 8: And our friend Cynthia Frielan was doing the game on

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Speaker 8: the sidelines and she noted, on top of Hamlin being back,

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Speaker 8: and that's such a great story, He's part of such

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Speaker 8: a deep safety group. There might be the best safety

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Speaker 8: Jordan Poyer's back, you brought in Taylor Rap, Hamlin's out

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Speaker 8: there making plays. It was the first time since Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: So that was just great to see.

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Speaker 8: And it's one of those things in the preseason that

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Speaker 8: that feels almost strange, but it's also exciting, like we'll

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Speaker 8: see what happens, but it's happening and it's exciting.

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Speaker 7: I do wonder, I mean, if the Bills get into

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Speaker 7: a weird situation. There's so deep at the position that

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Speaker 7: if Hamlin, you know, has a so so preseason and

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Speaker 7: from run up to the regular season, are they ever

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Speaker 7: in a position where they have to part ways with

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Speaker 8: I don't think so, just because he was such a

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Speaker 8: like you carry four or five safeties, and I think

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Speaker 8: but by all accounts, in terms of the practice reports

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Speaker 8: using him like he's going to be a third and

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Speaker 8: four safety. They love their secondary and they're not very

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Speaker 8: good at cornerback. I would say they're not sure if

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Speaker 8: they're going to start their first round pick from a

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Speaker 8: year ago, Ky or Elam. And what I've noticed a

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Speaker 8: a lot of teams are saying, like, look, we have

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Speaker 8: three good safeties, let's keep them on the field as

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Speaker 8: starters and only have two cornerbacks. I'm thinking of like

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Speaker 8: the Seahawks are a little like that, the Lions are

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Speaker 8: a little bit, and I think I think the Bills

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Speaker 8: could be like that too, where they have three safeties

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Speaker 1: How about you, Mark, give me a pop.

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Speaker 6: I can't go flop.

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Speaker 3: Let's stay positive. Okay, We'll get there. You know, I

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Speaker 3: just want to go negative.

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Speaker 6: No, I just I had a I was interested in

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Speaker 6: a flop snare.

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Speaker 1: But you'll get the first flop.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: Greg can't take more team because I know you're worried

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Speaker 3: he'll take your flop. And then now I look it

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Speaker 3: over there, I can see.

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Speaker 1: Don't let him see your screen.

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Speaker 6: I don't know why Greg does that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know either. It's it's violating.

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Speaker 7: It's sort of like an announced lack of integrity, denouncing

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Speaker 7: it your trumpeting.

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Speaker 3: You see it, it's right there in front of you.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, I've been talking this team up.

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Speaker 1: Wait one second. Yeah, do you like when Greg looks

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Speaker 1: at your screen.

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Speaker 6: I've made it very clear that it's weird to me, and.

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Speaker 2: I'll stop it. I'll try to stop it.

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Speaker 1: I mean you knew that. Though I'll try it, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't stop you. Though you can't stop.

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Speaker 2: I'll try to stab it.

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Speaker 6: I use a lot of and when I colored five and.

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Speaker 8: You know, face as he's speaking, and the screen is

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Speaker 8: just like right there, hared to avoid it.

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Speaker 6: Is in your sight line.

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Speaker 1: But they locked in on those icy blues.

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Speaker 8: Right on some level, you know you wanted that seat

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Speaker 8: on the corner. You wanted, you didn't want the middle.

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Speaker 7: He was very strong about it's a little constant revenge needling.

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Speaker 6: The new listeners still like, will you ever get to that?

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Speaker 7: I have been talking this team up. I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: Mark, the Browns are gonna be good this year. The

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Speaker 3: We was talking about a smart for football person and

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Speaker 1: I would not be surprised that the Browns have a

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Speaker 3: And whether we want it or not, Watson he's going

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Speaker 7: Well, I thought Aaron Schatz put it really well and

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Speaker 7: It's like, do you take that six game sample size,

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Speaker 6: Old, that like he still has that athletic ability.

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Speaker 7: So that was the missing component or the unknown component

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Speaker 7: We talked about that short up the defensive line, the

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Speaker 8: That's that a great offensive line can really bring out

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Speaker 3: He made the most out of Jake Brisket last year,

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Speaker 3: Mark feeling it, feeling a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Feeling a spicy a spicy twelve.

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Speaker 7: It's a crazy you need a couple of these teams,

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Speaker 8: I just like I I can see it all. I'm

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Speaker 2: So it's just a blood bath.

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Speaker 7: But Dvoa like day before the season, you know, kurttailed

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Speaker 7: Right, Uh, give me a flop Mark, I mean, I

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Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't think like talk about talk

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Speaker 1: It's all relative, by the way, everybody kind of these

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Speaker 2: Really flop it, you know, it just rhyme top right.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's why I'm staying away from like any of

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Speaker 6: This is Trey Lance's third season.

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Speaker 7: Now, if you really look at his career, I mean,

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Speaker 7: It shouldn't even be called a touch and they have

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Speaker 1: Not a positive grade on a PFF scale.

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Speaker 7: Put it that way, they would they would look right

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Speaker 8: He had a thirty seven passing grade, by the way,

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Speaker 1: It's not he's not turning.

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Speaker 1: So it makes it hard to make judgments.

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Speaker 8: because half the rookies. It feels like because COVID are

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Speaker 8: he ultimately like made the right like that he went

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Speaker 8: for it, that he made the right read, that it

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Speaker 8: on it. That was surprising, and like that if that

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Speaker 9: All right, We're back, Greg.

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Speaker 1: You got a popper flop?

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Speaker 8: Mmm, let's get to the rookie quarterbacks a little I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna go flop, but I'm not gonna give it to

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Speaker 8: the rookie quarterback. Give it to the Panthers offensive so

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Speaker 8: you can get around it. Yes, you can get around it.

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Speaker 8: Because I didn't watch the Bryce Young performance live or anything.

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Speaker 8: When I went back and checked it out on NFL Plus,

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Speaker 8: nice plug, bra nice nice first preseason weekend for NFL

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Speaker 8: Plus experience for me. When I went back to watch,

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Speaker 8: I was like, I was expecting it was gonna be ugly.

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Speaker 8: It's like Bryce second even knew anything wrong in that game.

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Speaker 8: There was not really much he could do. There was

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Speaker 8: one play that was kind of nice where he got

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Speaker 8: to his second read pretty quickly, made a nice throw,

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Speaker 8: but man, he got decked three times. There's this whole

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Speaker 8: idea that Ikey a konglu and like our colleague Steve

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Speaker 8: Smith said, like, look, he looks like one of the

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Speaker 8: best left tackles in the league in practice. Like he

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Speaker 8: was a bit of a disaster as a rookie and

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Speaker 8: he was in this game. And there's this idea that

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Speaker 8: the Panthers have this good offensive line, sneaky good.

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Speaker 2: Actually a year ago. Well then you have a new

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Speaker 2: coach and you have a new offensive line coach, you

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Speaker 2: have a new system, and people don't really pay attention

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Speaker 2: to this stuff. But oh, by the way, your two

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Speaker 2: starters at guards are.

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Speaker 8: Coming off of massive injuries, one of them who's still out,

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Speaker 8: Austin Corber And like, okay, that's a lot of ifs. Then,

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Speaker 8: like offensive line play and we'll talk about with Ross,

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Speaker 8: like is not necessarily consistent year to year, especially when

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Speaker 8: you're changing schemes. And so that was very concerning seeing

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Speaker 8: that man get decked that quickly. Don't I don't think

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Speaker 8: he really did anything wrong. Maybe there was one ball

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Speaker 8: he would like to have back. There wasn't really much

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Speaker 8: to it, but a nice job by the Jets defensive line.

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Speaker 1: Will McDonald's spin move.

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Speaker 8: I like Jets Jarmaine Johnson, hello, edge rushing group and

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Speaker 8: it's Quinn Williams.

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Speaker 1: Enough.

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Speaker 8: You don't want to put it all on defense, but man,

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Speaker 8: that Jets defense on paper is as talented as just

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Speaker 8: about anyone.

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Speaker 7: I mean they I thought it had happened at some point.

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Speaker 7: Solomon Thomas just flattens Bryce Young and like he got

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Speaker 7: right up and said he didn't even feel it. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I don't know why, why is that so surprising?

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Speaker 3: He's been playing football, he got a ton but all

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Speaker 3: the time at Alabama. Right, he was hit as hard

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Speaker 3: as like any college quarterback.

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Speaker 7: I watched that, right, But it is like it's just

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Speaker 7: this thing that people were waiting to see.

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Speaker 6: So that's fine.

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Speaker 7: I mean, my problem is like I don't know how

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Speaker 7: to really assess Bryce Young if he's this preseason, if

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Speaker 7: he's gonna be playing behind a line like this, because

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Speaker 7: it's Bryce Young under constant, well, I just I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It couldn't be.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback, especially an undersized rocky quarterback. It's that's doom.

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Speaker 3: You gotta they need to play at a average at

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Speaker 3: least level you'd think.

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Speaker 6: But there's time.

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Speaker 2: But I mean it's yeah, it was a small thing,

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Speaker 2: but it's Frank.

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Speaker 7: Craig's coming out being like, well, you know, listen this,

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Speaker 7: I don't really take the score into account, like he's

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Speaker 7: like I do.

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Speaker 1: We do.

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Speaker 6: We are accountable for it.

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Speaker 7: But it's like it's not a great it's not the

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Speaker 7: score doesn't matter at all, but just sort of an

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Speaker 7: uninspiring uh you know, dawn to the New Era.

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Speaker 2: It was twenty seven nothing we should we should mention

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Speaker 2: the Jets are back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we took off that tough Browns loss.

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Speaker 3: Shows that shows resilience there it is that's gonna play

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Speaker 3: well on that knocks. Hard Knocks is going to play

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Speaker 3: up the shut out, the shutout aspect of it big time.

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Speaker 3: I don't really need that, like the I thought that

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Speaker 3: in terms of the Hard Knocks epsod when it got

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Speaker 3: to the Hall of Fame game, I was like, eh.

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Speaker 6: I felt like they were filling Let's let's.

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Speaker 3: Stick to what's going on in Flora Park. We'll see

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Speaker 3: and the Hard Knocks podcast and this at the end

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Speaker 3: of the last tart, I just tomorrow wretch it out.

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Speaker 3: It was interesting Mingo started that.

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Speaker 2: Game for the Panthers. There was one one thing that

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Speaker 2: was nice, Let's see.

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Speaker 3: I have one that I want to hit. I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna I don't have too many flops. If I'm a

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Speaker 3: Dobins fan. I want to see Mike White play a

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Speaker 3: little better because you're going to see him this year

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Speaker 3: in games account.

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Speaker 1: But I'm going to stick with Popped.

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Speaker 3: And Uh, I'm gonna leave this one open because I

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Speaker 3: know Greg wants to talk about it, so I'll let

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Speaker 3: him do it and I'll stick with the Bears. Is

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Speaker 3: a big year for eber Fluis and Company. And DJ

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Speaker 3: Moore was such a big get for that offense. And

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Speaker 3: he scores a touchdown Justin Fields, then dumps off a

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Speaker 3: pass to Khalil Herbert third and long. He goes fifty

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Speaker 3: six yards for a touchdown, stiff arms a dude takes

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Speaker 3: him to the house and this was a great stat

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Speaker 3: I'll credit ESPN on this one. So Fields, you know,

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Speaker 3: you look at his stats. Justin Fields, this guy's gonna

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Speaker 3: win the MVP. Just basically two quick short passes. But

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Speaker 3: it matters because the Bears ranked last season dead last

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Speaker 3: and yards after catch eleven hundred yards. They did not

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Speaker 3: have a single play rack up fifty yards after catch

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Speaker 3: all of last season. Zero in seventeen games. They had

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Speaker 3: two in those two series with Justin Fields. Is that

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Speaker 3: going to continue week after week?

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Speaker 1: No, it's not.

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Speaker 3: But I think especially with Moore, just seeing what having

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Speaker 3: a true number one, how that could help and really

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Speaker 3: leads lift off for Justin Fields and what's such an

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Speaker 3: important third.

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Speaker 1: Year for him.

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Speaker 8: I mean that Moore is already part of one of

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Speaker 8: the greatest plays in NFL history, that catch from PJ Walker.

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Speaker 8: It's a fact this morning at the I'm glad this

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Speaker 8: randomly came up at the breakfast table. Right, Walker's got

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Speaker 8: on an NFL produced YouTube video the Greatest Throws of

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Speaker 8: All Time NFL History, produced by who Walker, NFL film

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Speaker 8: or Greg It was like it is a Rosenthal his

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Speaker 8: NFL films.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that PG Walker throw.

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Speaker 1: Was on it.

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Speaker 2: And how about this how we Moore caught it?

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Speaker 1: And how about we kicked the extra point? Yes, all right,

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Speaker 1: now we talk about what a great win it was.

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Speaker 8: I mean they had like there was probably like one

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Speaker 8: hundred and twenty five throws on this thing, but it

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Speaker 8: was one of them.

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Speaker 3: There this DJ Moore took his helmet off making the

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Speaker 3: extra point forty seven yards.

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Speaker 2: That was stupid. You should be allowed to take your helm,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 6: That's that rule comes and goes.

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Speaker 7: It's they're very they choose it when they want to.

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Speaker 8: They also have a healthy Darnel Mooney, which is nice.

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Speaker 8: ID think Herbert's a nice player. I think there was

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Speaker 8: a thought that Roshan Johnson comes in the rookie This

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Speaker 8: is where you watch the snaps. Herbert gets all the

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Speaker 8: snaps with the starters. Rosh On Johnson, who had a

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Speaker 8: nice run, is playing pretty deep with the third teamers

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Speaker 8: in the in.

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Speaker 2: The second half, So just a little fantasy.

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Speaker 3: Neck there all right, Uh Mark go ahead, Uh opera flop,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go pop.

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Speaker 1: Oh good for you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's I was at the Chargers game, and you

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Speaker 7: know last year the Chargers struggled.

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Speaker 1: Un oh, King of the Castle, King of the Castle.

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Speaker 6: That's like fourteen dollars to go. That's fine. Going this

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Speaker 6: week with my with with my with my children too.

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Speaker 1: Oh, really going a lot.

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Speaker 8: It really hit this time. The children were not there Saturday,

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Speaker 8: No they weren't.

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Speaker 7: No, they couldn't go to that one, but they will

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Speaker 7: go to the next one.

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Speaker 2: They then the Stetson Bennett fire show. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I didn't stay for the entire thing.

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Speaker 3: With a with a diet pepsi and his binoculars and

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Speaker 3: his little clipboard. That's exactly notes. That's exactly from the

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Speaker 3: Offensive Lion rankings chat.

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Speaker 7: But there were some huge plays from the I think

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Speaker 7: last year, like they couldn't run the ball six point

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Speaker 7: nine yards per carry against I mean a RAMS defensive

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Speaker 7: line that is ramshackle problematic. Yeah, two hundred and fourteen

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Speaker 7: rushing yards. Elijah Dotson, undrafted out of Northern Colorado, had

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Speaker 7: two crazy runs thirty seven and forty yards in the

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Speaker 7: second half, they just stuck it to the Rams. Later on,

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Speaker 7: I thought Easton Stick looked pretty good as a backup.

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Speaker 7: I mean, some of these teams, like the Bill's backup

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Speaker 7: situation we can get to at some point is sort

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Speaker 7: of a blooming disaster. And like Easton Stick looked as

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Speaker 7: good as he's ever looked, and it was really like

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Speaker 7: he ran the offense really well at that Quentin Johnston

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Speaker 7: is gonna be I think he's gonna drive people nuts

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Speaker 7: because he has some he does some stuff. You know,

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Speaker 7: his hands just disappear, but then he'll make a crazy

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Speaker 7: play and you can see it all. There's this guy

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Speaker 7: Darius Davis, who, another rookie, had a TCU eighty.

661
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 6: One yard punt return for a touchdown.

662
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 7: So I don't know, these guys seem like they want

663
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 7: to be a more physical team under Kellen Moore.

664
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Speaker 6: On the ground. In the one game we've seen it,

665
00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 6: it showed.

666
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 8: I think it's going to be a story this year.

667
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 8: He was the best returner in college football. That one

668
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 8: return was enough for me because it wasn't really about

669
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 8: the blocking. It was about the hesitation and the burst

670
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 8: and the vision, and it reminded me exactly of Cavante

671
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 8: Turpin of the Cowboys last year, who popped a couple

672
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 8: in the preseason. You were like, oh wow, is that

673
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 8: a guy and he ended up being a total game

674
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 8: changer for the Cowboys, one of the best return men

675
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 8: in the league. Quintin Johnson's on my radar, not a

676
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 8: guy I would want to take in fantasy.

677
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be their fourth receiver.

678
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 8: You couldn't hear this because you were at the game,

679
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 8: but Dan Fouts doing the coverage was like Johnston's.

680
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: He had a couple of drops early in this game.

681
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: Two drops.

682
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 8: He was just like he's had a rough training camp

683
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 8: because of those drops. And it's like, oh wait, that's

684
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 8: the first negative thing I've heard any announcers say about

685
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 8: anyone on the team that they're covering, you know, this

686
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 8: entire weekend because they're all working for the team, and

687
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 8: you never heard it. And it's like, I'm going to

688
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 8: file that away. He's probably wide receiver four there behind Palmer.

689
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 3: If the guy's saying that for and he's getting paid

690
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: by the team these guys for the preseason coverage, the

691
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: guy has to look pretty bad. Although he is explosive,

692
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: you could see he's getting open and he had a

693
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 3: great touchdown.

694
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: He could be a red zone guy.

695
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, all right, Greg, you have you have so

696
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 3: many you have three takes too many, so you got

697
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: to throw out another one.

698
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: When I go, it's.

699
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Speaker 8: What's like, what's the most surprising, Well, we should hit

700
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 8: the quarterback stuff. Let's go uh, let's go Baker playing

701
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 8: I just because I think it's newsworthy. Baker played well composed,

702
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 8: and Kyle Trask wasn't a disaster, but wasn't good. So

703
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 8: it was a clear and decisive Baker victory in preseason

704
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 8: game one. And then yeah, because I'm writing that article,

705
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 8: I checked out a little Pewter Report action box cuts

706
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 8: that they noticed that they noticed that Baker had like

707
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 8: his best practice day of the year on Sunday and

708
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 8: threw a bunch of touchdowns and Trask had a bad day.

709
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: So it feels like they're separation creating.

710
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 8: No big surprise there, but just just so you know,

711
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 8: it looks like Baker is going to be the guy.

712
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 8: Trask will get to start preseason Week two, but I

713
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 8: think that's it's gonna be his last time in the competition.

714
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: All right, I gave you a chance, Greg and so

715
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: now I'll bring it up. I thought the Saints look

716
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: good and limited time at Derek Carr in the field.

717
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: It's like the Joker movie The Todd Phillips won. So

718
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: many things, so many Batman related things, jetson and blots

719
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: him that you gotta differentiate the Todd Phillips film The Joker, right.

720
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: I think Derek Carr is good. I'm tired of pretending

721
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: he's not.

722
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 3: I think he's going to do well in that offense

723
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: playing in the Dome and Gregi Alvin Kamara did.

724
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: Look very feisty and frisky in his limited play as well.

725
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: It's unfortunate that he's not going to be around for

726
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 3: the start of the season. That's his own doing with

727
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: his suspension. And it's also unfortunate that Kendrey Miller, their rookie,

728
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 3: injured his knee in the game. I don't know how

729
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 3: serious it is, but we were told it's a sprain

730
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: that could go in two very different directions. It's from

731
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: Dennis Allend, so they don't have the they have depth

732
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: depth depth issues there. Of course, hight sign someone, so

733
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: somebody's coming into that building regardless. It sounds like but Carr,

734
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 3: Michael Thomas. I like the vibes there if he can

735
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: stay on the field, And yes, Kamara looked very good.

736
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: He should be ready to roll in late September.

737
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 8: John Johnson delivering on that Fantasy have Chris o'lave they've

738
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 8: said has been the MVP at camp there and then

739
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 8: it just sort of caught me by surprise when like

740
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 8: Jimmy Graham caught a catch.

741
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: You know, Jimmy Graham is on.

742
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: This team, He's not gonna is he gonna make the team?

743
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 8: I asked our friend Adam over at the Saints podcast

744
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 8: and it was called the Saints Twitter Podcast.

745
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: Now I forget what it's called. They changed the name

746
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: bad job by me?

747
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: What? Because Twitter isn't it a thing?

748
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 8: I guess I don't know, just like a rebrand X

749
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 8: pot is kind of kind of cool. I don't think

750
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 8: it was related. I think they had changed it before

751
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 8: that happened. But he thinks Jimmy Graham's making the team, so.

752
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 7: Well, why go through the motion of of like bringing

753
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 7: them back just to have him there for three weeks?

754
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: Fantasy's Can't Play Sanes block party podcast?

755
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: There we go, oh, okay, but what did you say?

756
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 8: He thinks Jimmy Graham picking the team Michael Thomas, Jimmy Graham,

757
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 8: it is weird. I like their their first round pick

758
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 8: look pretty good for see.

759
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: Very good. Uh we got Ross in a couple of minutes.

760
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: So anything else I have.

761
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 7: I have one that I feel is somewhere in between

762
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 7: pop and flop because it's a rookie quarterback. I want

763
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 7: to talk about him, but like Anthony Richardson, I don't

764
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 7: think he flopped or popped.

765
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 6: I mean, I just think it's like a PLoP.

766
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 7: Sure it's that yeah, I mean I don't want to

767
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 7: overly critique him. I like I watching him, it's like

768
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 7: you can see it. I don't know if he needs

769
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 7: to really start the season necessarily bar what I saw

770
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 7: put him underground.

771
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: I thought he looked good. Well, it was fine, kind

772
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: of what you expect. There was a lot of terrible interception,

773
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 3: which is fine. I let off anything though, like I

774
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: thought it was.

775
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 7: Is he going to try to like run off run

776
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 7: out of the pocket on every play, like kind of

777
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 7: stood in there and threw the ball, had that bad turnover.

778
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 7: He just the way he throws the ball like he's

779
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 7: got some sidearm action. But like I think his mechanics

780
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 7: are just a little string.

781
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 2: They're wacky.

782
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 8: He has a quick release, and I think he got

783
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 8: rid of the ball quickly mostly and made good decision.

784
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 8: You're right, there were like two throws that were just

785
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 8: way off, and that's just apparently part of the package.

786
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 8: Reminds you a little rookie Josh Allen. But then he

787
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 8: also ran over who was that, Tron Johnson? I think

788
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 8: of the Bills. He just like steamrolled him like it

789
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 8: was like a two hundred and fifty pounds full back

790
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 8: over a little child, and you're just like, oh man,

791
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 8: that's a quarterback.

792
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: And then he made a couple of really nice throws and.

793
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 8: They like really went out of their way after the

794
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 8: game to point out Isaiah McKenzie made a mistake on

795
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 8: that interception that he didn't read the blitz right, he

796
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 8: didn't run the right route. But Richardson made a big

797
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 8: mistake too. Is like if your receiver messes up and

798
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 8: you could see him almost panic in real time and

799
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 8: then just force it. You got to just throw it

800
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 8: away or run to the sideline and eat it. But

801
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 8: Reggie Wayne, our former colleague, was sure apparently very upset

802
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 8: with Isaiah Mackenzie, who like literally apologized publicly about that interception.

803
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: I thought he showed it enough that he's going to

804
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: be the weak one start.

805
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 6: Well, I mean it's like, of course he will be.

806
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 6: I guess.

807
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 7: It's just like he could have had a touchdown that

808
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 7: Alec Pierce. He threw a nice bar. Yeah, that was

809
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 7: the time Alec Alec Pearce dropped it and was upset

810
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 7: at himself. I thought on that run where he bowled

811
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 7: the guy over, it wasn't like lowering the shoulder and

812
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 7: getting like low, like he just basically stood up and

813
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 7: ran through him. And it reminds you he's like as

814
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 7: fast as people, but like fifty pounds heavier, made of muscle.

815
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 2: It's like it's like a young Cam I mean in

816
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: terms of size and speed.

817
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 3: He jumps as a run like everyone would say in

818
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 3: the Young Out Jem and just jumps off the screen.

819
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: You know what.

820
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 8: I want to give a little pop too, just because

821
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 8: it's Newsworthy. It's not preseason, really, Joe Burrow out on

822
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 8: the field not only practicing aggressively.

823
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: Kind of stretching pop. But yeah, okay, yeah.

824
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 8: Well he like went through this whole work out and

825
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 8: he did it in front of the camera, So to me,

826
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 8: that was his oh your.

827
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: Takes good behind the glass hit pop on that maybe

828
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if we need said.

829
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, listen, he's got a point shout out.

830
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 8: I think that was him telling the greater Cincinnati area

831
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 8: I'm good, relaxed, So I think we'll see him back

832
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 8: there soon and they I wouldn't be too relaxed watching,

833
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 8: you know, Trevor Simeon and Jake Brown and stinking up.

834
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 8: You got to get a backup quarterback Cincinnati. It's not

835
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 8: messing around.

836
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 7: Did you see the Trevor Lawrence touchdown where he evaded

837
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 7: up like eighteen people people were coming up to him.

838
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: Ur you mean Nathan Rourke, Well he had a night.

839
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 3: We should be so blessed to have Trevor Lawrence making

840
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: that play. It was I mean, back up the Nathan

841
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: Rourke Jaguars.

842
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: I thought it was too. He has a similar bill,

843
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: you know.

844
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 7: I I just saw it on like a on a

845
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 7: Twitter replan. It was like, that's Trevor Lawrence.

846
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 8: Holy Lawrence had a nice touchdown too, But uh, Rourke,

847
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 8: seeing I was not familiar with this man, did some

848
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 8: research CFL product was like in the MVP mix in

849
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 8: the CFL this year before and he very that play

850
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 8: in Bill Barnell, who's going to be on our show

851
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 8: later this week doing some over unders with us. He said,

852
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 8: doesn't matter preseason or not. That's play that has a

853
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 8: chance to be the best play made by an NFL

854
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 8: player this year.

855
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: That's one of the best players to get out I've

856
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: ever seen.

857
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: Boll whoa mister.

858
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: He threw off three was incredible, three guys, and it

859
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: was a great play.

860
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 2: As his knee is half an inch off the ground.

861
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 8: Throws a dime for a game when he touched down

862
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 8: with thirty seconds left.

863
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't I doesn't a game, but yeah.

864
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, I just watched the NFL's greatest throws ever. I

865
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 8: mean it would fit. It would fit that.

866
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: I would have ruled him in the grasp and I

867
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: would have ruled him down and I would have waived

868
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: the play.

869
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: That's not fun personally, It was a great it was

870
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: a great effort.

871
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 3: And Mark is You're known to always say we are

872
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: nothing without our fans. I mean, I can't have one

873
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: conversation with Mark without him saying we're nothing without our fans.

874
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: And with that subtler.

875
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 7: Are you trying to suggest that I, in reality could

876
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 7: care less about our fans? No, I mean I'm saying

877
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 7: very much, am thankful.

878
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: Let's check in.

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Speaker 3: Via x slash whatever. Uh and uh look at this,

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Speaker 3: Look at this. Reagan Cheps checks in out here at

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Speaker 3: the hot ass Bank of America Stadium watching aa Ron

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Speaker 3: and his Jets. Can't help but think Dan Hanss and

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Speaker 3: Greg Rosenthal around the NFL. You can't see my boys

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Speaker 3: Patriot cat, but he is a diehard Og Brady fan.

885
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Speaker 3: He was born in Connecticut. After all, we love football

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Speaker 3: in the atn pod. Now, that is nice to see

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Speaker 3: from the fans.

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Speaker 6: It's really nice.

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Speaker 1: Wait, what's up? Face it.

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Speaker 6: It's a nice message.

891
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Speaker 2: She can't help but think of Dan, Greg, all the guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh there was a follow up. There was a follow up.

893
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Mark too there.

894
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Speaker 6: Oh I got my own tweet.

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Speaker 2: You gotta follow up after someone.

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Speaker 6: Well it's a total afterthought. But yeah, I know it's

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Speaker 6: I think, I know.

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Speaker 2: I don't think she was attempting.

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Speaker 8: No, no, it was well, I think she just it

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Speaker 8: was Jets to you know, to try to walk to

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Speaker 8: try to save her Jets. Dan and then her son

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Speaker 8: Patriots hat. So there was like a connection.

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Speaker 7: So I was organic, just organically left out. That's that

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Speaker 7: that does. That's no problem at all.

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Speaker 3: It's reading. If you're listening, just now, this will live inside.

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Speaker 3: I'll be.

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Speaker 2: This week.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's move right along. I think we have

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Speaker 3: a guest we do hit the music.

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Speaker 1: Joining us now is a former.

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Speaker 3: NFL offensive one played seven years Cowboys, Bills, Patriots, Washington.

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Speaker 1: I went to Princeton.

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Speaker 3: Hello, and now he does color for CBS Sports and

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Speaker 3: with one he's got his own podcast, I mean Ross Tucker,

915
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 3: my goodness, got his own podcast, the Ross Tucker Football Podcast,

916
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Speaker 3: and now he joins us to talk about his latest

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Speaker 3: rankings over on the thirty third team Cross.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Around the NFL.

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00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 10: What's up, fellas.

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Speaker 11: Love love the music, love the intro, and nice to

921
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Speaker 11: see all you guys.

922
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 10: Happy football season.

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Speaker 1: Happy football.

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Speaker 8: You mentioned there that you know we're gonna be hearing

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00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 8: Ross on Sundays now in NFL games.

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Speaker 3: Oh hell ya, that's a first. I'm look congrats on

927
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Speaker 3: that that gig. We are very serious about studying those teams.

928
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Speaker 3: And to have you crack in the rotation, that's something

929
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Speaker 3: to look for.

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Speaker 8: It and the crosshairs here, we're sometimes critical. We do ranking,

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Speaker 8: so now you're you're part of it too.

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Speaker 11: You know what, I am totally fine with that. That's

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Speaker 11: very fair.

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Speaker 10: I listen. I do rankings on Mondays on the.

935
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Speaker 11: Ross Tucker Football podcast for the press box food for

936
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Speaker 11: the different stadiums I'm in, and I always say like,

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Speaker 11: I am very grateful for the free food. I am

938
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Speaker 11: not complaining. I'm just evaluating, right, I'm just reporting.

939
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Speaker 10: It's my job.

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Speaker 11: So as long as you guys are are tough but fair,

941
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Speaker 11: I'm fine with that. I will say this, really excited

942
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Speaker 11: to be in the booth. Three man booth. Chris Lewis

943
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Speaker 11: will do play by flying, and the other analyst is

944
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Speaker 11: Jason mccordy, which I think is awesome because number one,

945
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Speaker 11: he just retired. Number two, I've known him since I

946
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Speaker 11: think he was a senior in college.

947
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Speaker 10: I've known him for a while.

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Speaker 1: And then I.

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Speaker 11: Also have always kind of thought, guys that the ideal

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Speaker 11: booth is a guy like Jason who played corner or

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Speaker 11: receiver and is really an expert in coverages, coverage techniques,

952
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Speaker 11: route combinations, all that stuff, with a guy like me

953
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Speaker 11: that is really an expert in the front seven stuff,

954
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Speaker 11: O line, D line because it's really you're not going

955
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Speaker 11: to really find and like an offensive line or defensive

956
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Speaker 11: lineman that really is an expert when it comes to

957
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Speaker 11: wide receiver dB stuff. So I kind of feel like,

958
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Speaker 11: hopefully we'll have the best of both worlds.

959
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Speaker 7: Do you feel like when in a three man boot

960
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 7: you gotta kind of, you know, elbow them out to

961
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Speaker 7: get your comment in there? Sometimes there's one an extra

962
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Speaker 7: human being in there.

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Speaker 11: You know. It's funny because I've done it several times now,

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Speaker 11: and it is different for sure, because when you're the

965
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Speaker 11: only analyst, there is no question who's talking.

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Speaker 2: It's right. And also play play man might not even

967
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Speaker 2: get in there.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 11: But the other thing is greg is you know people

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Speaker 11: realize and I said this to Jason already, the big

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Speaker 11: difference between radio and television, right is Radio, which I love,

972
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Speaker 11: I can just say whatever I want at the end

973
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Speaker 11: of every play. Me, TV you gotta you gotta be

974
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Speaker 11: talking about what's on the screen. So what that means

975
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Speaker 11: is a lot of times, you know, as the play

976
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Speaker 11: is happening. I don't know if anybody's ever described this

977
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Speaker 11: to you guys, but as the play is happening, and

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Speaker 11: the play by play guy's calling it, I am hitting

979
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Speaker 11: the button, telling the producer and director you know, fifty

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Speaker 11: three blue Telly, fifty three blue Telly because the linebacker

981
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Speaker 11: came flying through and blew up the play. It made

982
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Speaker 11: an awesome play. Or maybe they're telling me, you know,

983
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Speaker 11: wide receiver corner ISO, And so you gotta look at

984
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Speaker 11: the monitor a lot because it does you no good

985
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Speaker 11: if you're looking at the field talking about the pass

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Speaker 11: rush and they're showing the wide receiver and the corner's

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Speaker 11: coverage on him.

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Speaker 10: So there's just a lot more communication on TV, a

989
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Speaker 10: lot more in your ear. So I bring that.

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Speaker 11: Up to tell you guys, still different when it's a

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Speaker 11: three man booths for TV like that, because you know what,

992
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Speaker 11: if Jason wants to.

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Speaker 10: Talk about one thing, I want to talk about another thing.

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Speaker 11: But the way it works out is there's certain camera angles,

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Speaker 11: right like the ALL twenty two, that's gonna be Jason.

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Speaker 11: If we're showing the ALL twenty two, it's because it's

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Speaker 11: a coverage. If we're showing a wide receiver ISO, that's

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Speaker 11: gonna be Jason. If we're showing the high end zone,

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Speaker 11: which is the old line that's gonna be me. So

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Speaker 11: there's just things that you work through, you talk through.

1001
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Speaker 11: But there's just a lot more involved with TV stuff

1002
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Speaker 11: than the radio, I know, and.

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Speaker 3: That's sometimes and we're guilty of this as well. And

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Speaker 3: you think about infamous booths like you know, Witton's run

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00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: there and Bugger and and Greg. You've had it out

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Speaker 3: with some people in the past, uh, and you know,

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Speaker 3: guy flubs one thing or you know some type of uh,

1008
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Speaker 3: you know, error like that, and we're all killing him.

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Speaker 1: But you don't really realize what's going on and how

1010
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: much work it is. I have a lot of respect

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Speaker 1: for the the that job and what you're doing. Ross.

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Speaker 1: Good luck to you. Transition.

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Speaker 10: I'll give you guys. I'll give you guys.

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Speaker 1: One quick story, right full transition back to Tucker.

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Speaker 10: What one quick story? Saturday night?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I did the Ravens Eagles preseason game.

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Speaker 10: I do the presing games for the.

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Speaker 11: Eagles, and uh, the quarterback for the raven I can't

1019
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Speaker 11: remember if it was Josh Johnson, who I didn't even

1020
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Speaker 11: know was on the Ravens again, or Tyler Huntley who

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Speaker 11: I saw your tweet Greg about him playing in the

1022
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Speaker 11: second half, which is beyond interesting to me. But one

1023
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Speaker 11: of them, you know, rolled out to the right through

1024
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Speaker 11: the ball and just kind of had to throw the

1025
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 11: ball away right. Well, the producer says, or maybe I said,

1026
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Speaker 11: I don't know, but let's show the coverage.

1027
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 10: Because there's nowhere to go with the ball, and then

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Speaker 10: we go. So I showed the coverage, nowhere to go

1029
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Speaker 10: with the ball.

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Speaker 11: I looked down at my phone during the commercial break,

1031
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Speaker 11: and somebody was like, the reason why he rolled to

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Speaker 11: the right was there was.

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Speaker 10: Great pressure from Kentavious Street. You didn't even mention. All

1034
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Speaker 10: you talked about was the coverage. Be better?

1035
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Speaker 1: Who sent that?

1036
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Speaker 10: It wasn't but somebody.

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Speaker 2: I mean, because.

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Speaker 11: If the producer says, we're going to show the coverage replay, yeah,

1039
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Speaker 11: but I'm talking about the average replay. I'm not talking about,

1040
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 11: you know, chasing the quarterback guys on the side, like

1041
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 11: I don't know if that was Contavious his agent or

1042
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 11: like his uncle, but it's just hilarious to me, like

1043
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 11: be better. They don't realize that we don't really always

1044
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 11: have a saying.

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Speaker 1: I hate it. Be better.

1046
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Speaker 3: Yeah, By the way, if we could declare a more moratorium,

1047
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: better better, let's sucks.

1048
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Speaker 2: Be better never never do be better.

1049
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: It's so condescending and snide, and it's just like, let's lose.

1050
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 6: It, get fired into the snud.

1051
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: Be better, be better.

1052
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: Be better.

1053
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Speaker 8: Tyler Hunting, by the way, might not make that team

1054
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Speaker 8: because just the way John harvests talking, I just feel

1055
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Speaker 8: like they've been trying to replace him all off season.

1056
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Speaker 8: They played Josh Johnson ahead of him, But then again,

1057
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Speaker 8: he kept that twenty four game winning streak by hero

1058
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Speaker 8: by playing quarter.

1059
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Speaker 1: Of one hundred games straight.

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Speaker 3: All right, talk, oh lines, Yes, let's do it, so

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Speaker 3: h Ross great stuff. Over on the thirty third team

1062
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Speaker 3: dot com. You break down your offensive line rankings into

1063
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Speaker 3: five tiers elite, above average, average, below average, and poor.

1064
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Speaker 3: You could see where Ross has your team and get

1065
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Speaker 3: mad at him. Accordingly, Elite tier Eagles, Lions, and the

1066
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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns. And that kind of connects with the point

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Speaker 3: I was making earlier in the show Ross about how

1068
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Speaker 3: the brown just seemed to have a lot of things

1069
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Speaker 3: lined up. Well, we know about the Eagles and Lions

1070
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Speaker 3: and what they were able to put together last year.

1071
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Speaker 3: Brown surprised me to be this high in this exercise.

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Speaker 11: And you know what's funny too, just looking at this.

1073
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Speaker 11: And we'll talk about the elite obviously, and I know

1074
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Speaker 11: we'll get to the ones below. If you think about it, guys,

1075
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Speaker 11: you really just if you have poor you have no shot,

1076
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Speaker 11: and if you're below average, you probably don't have much

1077
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Speaker 11: of a chance. Whereas it's great to be elite for

1078
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 11: sure or above average, but even if you have an

1079
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Speaker 11: average O line you probably can get stuff done. You

1080
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Speaker 11: really just can't be below average and poor. But we

1081
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Speaker 11: have seen the resurgence in Philadelphia last year Detroit, I

1082
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,479
Speaker 11: think you could argue that they were both almost led

1083
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 11: by their offensive lines, right, I mean, both quarterbacks played probably.

1084
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Speaker 10: Much better than anybody thought they would.

1085
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Speaker 11: I mean, nobody thought Hurts would be second in the

1086
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Speaker 11: MVP voting. And then Golf I thought that was maybe

1087
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Speaker 11: the best year he's ever had, maybe at least other

1088
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Speaker 11: than the one year in LA And I think they

1089
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Speaker 11: were led by the offensive lines. And so, you know,

1090
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Speaker 11: when I look at this list of the elite teams,

1091
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Speaker 11: my thing is, if Deshaun Watson can't play at a

1092
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Speaker 11: high level in Cleveland this year, then that's kind of

1093
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 11: a Deshaun Watson thing. I mean, you know, I'm still fascinated,

1094
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Speaker 11: by the way, by the fact that that guy was

1095
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Speaker 11: considered a top five quarterback the last full year he

1096
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Speaker 11: played in twenty twenty, when.

1097
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 10: The Texans went four and twelve.

1098
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 11: I mean, is that the worst record any team has

1099
00:49:54,880 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 11: ever had when their quarterback had unanimous unquote.

1100
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 10: Top five play.

1101
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 11: I mean, I would have thought it's impossible to have

1102
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 11: a quarterback, you know, be top five in the NFL

1103
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 11: and everybody agreed with it and the team goes four

1104
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 11: and twelve.

1105
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 10: How do you even do that?

1106
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. Now I'm going to I want to

1107
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: go look where we had it.

1108
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 7: I mean maybe maybe you know Archie Manning or something

1109
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 7: like that. Yeah, right, it's pretty rare. I I want

1110
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 7: to ask you about the Eagles real quick.

1111
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 2: Uh.

1112
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 7: They have Cam Jurgens, who's gonna move to right guard there,

1113
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 7: and he's and you mentioned in your piece that he's

1114
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 7: essentially just been a center. But you you must have

1115
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 7: immense faith in the development the coaching in Philadelphia. Obviously,

1116
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 7: they pour so many resources into both lines, and it

1117
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 7: is the heart and soul of that team.

1118
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 6: But to go from center to play guard, is it?

1119
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: Is it you played?

1120
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 7: It is the position switch kind of like no problem

1121
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 7: for some guys, or is it like a wait and

1122
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 7: see how this works?

1123
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 11: So, uh, it is much different playing guard than center,

1124
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 11: and people don't realize that.

1125
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 10: The easiest way.

1126
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 11: To describe it is when you're center, there's no real

1127
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 11: neutral zone. The nose tackles right there and so you

1128
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 11: kind of just snap the ball and like grab them

1129
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 11: with the other hand and you're very rarely isolated one

1130
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 11: on one. In pass protection, you know, you usually have

1131
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 11: one of the guards helping you, at least initially. Whereas guard,

1132
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,959
Speaker 11: there's space, a little bit of time, and a lot

1133
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 11: of times you're one on one against an Aaron Donald.

1134
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 10: Or whoever, and they basically have a two way go.

1135
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 11: So the pass protector, the way I always describe it

1136
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 11: is like I could have started a whole year at

1137
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 11: center and been fine.

1138
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,479
Speaker 10: I could have even the way we slid left so much.

1139
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 11: I could have started a whole year at left guard

1140
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 11: been okay, And it's changed a little bit. But right guard,

1141
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 11: with the amount of one on ones they get, that's

1142
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 11: when I got exposed. Like I couldn't hold up against

1143
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 11: really good interior rushers over a long period of time,

1144
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 11: and so I was worried about Cam Jurgens, really worrying.

1145
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 11: I mean, this is a guy that played tight end

1146
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 11: his first two or three years at Nebraska. They just

1147
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 11: moved the center and he was unbelievable last year in

1148
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 11: the preseason for the Eagles as a center. Now, I

1149
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 11: didn't watch him take any reps at garden practice. I

1150
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 11: don't even know how many did last year. But I've

1151
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 11: been a training camp a couple of times because I

1152
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 11: had Mark to your point, I had major concerns about that.

1153
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 11: Saamlo's good. Saamlo gets overshadowed because he's in between probably

1154
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 11: two Hall of famers in Kelsey and Lane Johnson.

1155
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 10: But Saamalo was good.

1156
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 11: But I've been to enough practices now Cam Jurgens is good.

1157
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 11: Like to answer your question, Mark, He's one of those

1158
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 11: guys that it just it just worked for him right away.

1159
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 11: Some guy I've seen multiple teams I've been on where

1160
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 11: they will like try to move a tackle to guard

1161
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 11: and have him be the starter right guard, and it

1162
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 11: was a disaster two thousand and two Washington, two thousand

1163
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 11: and seven Washington, whereas Jurgons man, I don't know how

1164
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 11: the OTAs went, but watching him in training camp, watching

1165
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 11: him in one on ones and going against Fletcher Cox.

1166
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 11: He's not going to be a problem at all. In fact,

1167
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 11: he's going to be really really good.

1168
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 10: That was just a good pick along, like.

1169
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 3: The just in terms of trench talk from somebody who's

1170
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 3: done it, because you're hearing about it. You in the

1171
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 3: below average cheeria you're starting, you start with the Jets

1172
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: of twenty four and this is less about the Jets

1173
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 3: and more just about what you're hearing about Kai Beckton,

1174
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: about how drafted as a left tackle, they're trying to

1175
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 3: make it work at right tackle. And you hear these

1176
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: guys that get flipped on each side of the line

1177
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 3: say it's like learning a new position and having to

1178
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 3: do everything backwards. Is that like one of those things

1179
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 3: where you know, like patting your head and rubbing your belly.

1180
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 3: Some people can do it, some people can't. And how

1181
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 3: difficult is that a task to be to flip from

1182
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 3: one side to the other and expect to pick it

1183
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 3: up in the middle of the summer with games that

1184
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: count right around the corner.

1185
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 11: So have you got any of you guys ever like

1186
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 11: broken your throwing hand or you're writing hand or wrist

1187
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 11: or anything like that because that's the way I always

1188
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 11: describe it to people. It's like I broke my I

1189
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 11: actually had a bad that's a long story, but I

1190
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 11: had a snowblower incident when I was in ninth grade, okay,

1191
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 11: with my right hand, so I couldn't use my right

1192
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 11: hand for a while as that as I was healing,

1193
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 11: So I just started, you know, playing basketball and stuff

1194
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 11: with my left hand, and I got pretty good at it,

1195
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 11: but it was never quite as good as my right hand,

1196
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 11: and it took.

1197
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 10: Me a while.

1198
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 11: That's kind of it's similar to that right like it's

1199
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 11: you're still just dribbling a ball or you're still just writing,

1200
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 11: but it's not hand that you've used over and over again.

1201
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 11: So it's a different stance and a different weight transfer.

1202
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 11: So picture like three hours a day, every day you're

1203
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 11: in this exact same stance, and every step you take

1204
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 11: is pushing off your left foot and left leg because

1205
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 11: you're in a right handed stance. And then all of

1206
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 11: a sudden they have you switch and go to left

1207
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 11: And for three years you were in this one stance.

1208
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 11: Think about the hours you put in and now they

1209
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 11: put you and you have to put Now you're pushing

1210
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 11: off your right now you're using your your right hand,

1211
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 11: your inside hand. Some guys it happens faster than others.

1212
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 11: You absolutely can do it. And if you're a guy

1213
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 11: like I was, your job is to be able to

1214
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 11: do it either side at a moment's notice. That's what

1215
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 11: you practice. You practice actually both. But it's the guys

1216
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 11: like Becton that have only ever done one that when

1217
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 11: they have to switch to the other, it's it's like

1218
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 11: they're writing with their opposite hand. And you can probably

1219
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 11: get it done to the point where people can read

1220
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 11: what you're writing, but it's not going to be like

1221
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 11: a handwriting masterpiece, that's for sure.

1222
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 3: If you flipped me in Cecila right now, I would

1223
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 3: have a panic at just you're sitting yeah, yeah, right.

1224
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 7: Well no, but we've been sitting in the same place

1225
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 7: for like nine or ten years. To your point, Ross Leaky.

1226
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 2: You can't play. You can't play left host.

1227
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 8: I want to get to the teams at the bottom

1228
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 8: of the list at some point, but I do want

1229
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 8: to ask you about two in the at the bottom

1230
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 8: of the top ten Chargers Packers. Two teams I'm kind

1231
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 8: of mentally circling that could exceed expectations Chargers. I might

1232
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 8: be doing this for about the fifteenth three years. I mean,

1233
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 8: these two offensive lines to me have a very high ceiling.

1234
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 8: I keep looking at the Chargers offensive line. I'm thinking, like,

1235
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 8: why couldn't this be the best offensive line in the

1236
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 8: league or close to it. Rayshawn Slater's back at left tackle.

1237
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 8: People might remember Zion Johnson. They drafted him the first

1238
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 8: round last year. They're moving him back to his natural

1239
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 8: position at left tackle. They really found something in Jamari Sailor,

1240
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 8: and you pointed out Ross. Maybe it's not easy for

1241
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 8: him to go from left tackle to right guard, but

1242
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 8: he's now going to be in their starting line about

1243
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 8: right guard. They have a great center in Lindsley. Those

1244
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 8: are four really good players. And the Packers are kind

1245
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 8: of similar to me too. If Bactieri's healthy. Of Bacdiari Jenkins,

1246
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 8: they have a second year player Zach tom which looks great.

1247
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 8: Like am I wrong to think that this Chargers offensive line,

1248
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 8: especially new offensive coordinator but the same line coach like,

1249
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 8: could be really dynamic And it's such a change from

1250
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 8: what it's been two three, four years ago in Los Angeles,

1251
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 8: not at all.

1252
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 11: I think they had a really good chance to be

1253
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 11: a top five to zero line if Sawyer can play

1254
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 11: it right guard the way I think he will after

1255
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 11: the way he played at left tackle last year in

1256
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 11: a weird way. Greg, It's almost like a blessing in

1257
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 11: disguise for this season that Slater was hurt last season

1258
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 11: because it allowed them to discover that Sawyer is a

1259
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 11: good player and even right tackle, which had just been

1260
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 11: such a disaster for them for multiple years.

1261
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 10: I think Pipkins is solid.

1262
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 11: I think Pipkins is fine, so they have a real

1263
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 11: chance to be a top five zero line. I think

1264
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 11: the question mark is moving a couple guys around. Yeah,

1265
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 11: you don't see that at other places necessarily, And how

1266
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 11: Pipkins and Sawyer play next to each other is the

1267
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 11: only thing really preventing them, because I think the I

1268
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 11: think the left side and Lindsey will be awesome. And

1269
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 11: then for the Packers, it's really just about Tiari hell thing,

1270
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 11: you know. I mean, I can't remember the last time

1271
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 11: a guy they're telling us he's fine now.

1272
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 10: It felt like two seasons in a row, maybe longer

1273
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 10: than that. He kept going in and out of the

1274
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 10: lineup and having his knee drained.

1275
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 11: I've really thought he was done. To be honestly, I

1276
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 11: thought this isn't gonna happen for him. I'm really happy

1277
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 11: for him. It sounds like they think he'll be able

1278
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 11: to play the whole year, which is kind of remarkable

1279
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 11: because I think he got hurt three seasons ago and

1280
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 11: this will be the first time where they really think

1281
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 11: he's all the way back. I'm sure they're managing it,

1282
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 11: but I kind of thought last year when he was

1283
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 11: in and out that he was just gonna be done.

1284
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 3: Isn't he kind of like the offense line version of

1285
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 3: Michael Thomas, Like, you want this guy he could be

1286
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 3: a difference maker and a star, and then you pencil

1287
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 3: him in in August. Then you just cross your fingers

1288
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 3: at this point. But he has that level of upside.

1289
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 8: I'll pro five five straight years first or second team.

1290
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 8: You're right, Yeah, he feels like about as big of

1291
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 8: like a X factor for any team.

1292
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 10: Especially especially with a young quarterback.

1293
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 11: Because also then if he can't play, they got to

1294
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 11: move a bunch of guys around.

1295
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 10: I don't know.

1296
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 11: I don't know if they'll put Elton Jenkins out there,

1297
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 11: who I think is a really good player. I can't

1298
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 11: believe DJ readers that he never heard of him. Elton

1299
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 11: Jenkins is awesome. That just goes to show you most

1300
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 11: of the time, these guys don't care. They don't pay

1301
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 11: attention to offensive lineman from team they don't play against.

1302
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 11: So that Alton Jenkins is really good, Like he's a

1303
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 11: really good player. So uh yeah, I think that's a

1304
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 11: I mean, if Bactiari stays healthy, their top ten. If

1305
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 11: he's not, you know, then they're then they're very average

1306
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 11: at best.

1307
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 7: So the Titans interesting case study because I think if

1308
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 7: you were a super a casual fan, you probably still think,

1309
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 7: because that's been their identity, that they still have this

1310
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Speaker 7: strong offensive line. They're a disaster. They're number thirty two

1311
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Speaker 7: on your list. That's a free fall from where they

1312
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Speaker 7: were seven hundred days ago. What is the team that

1313
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 7: in this offseason did the most to improve their their ranking?

1314
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Speaker 6: Who did the most?

1315
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Speaker 11: So to your point, first Mark, it's funny. My first

1316
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Speaker 11: game for CBS Week one will be the Titans at

1317
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Speaker 11: the Saints. So really looking forward to being in Greg

1318
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 11: Rosenthal City in New Orleans. They have any good food

1319
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 11: down there? I like food. If you guys didn't know, I.

1320
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Speaker 2: Think, but it's on you if you don't find it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, really so, But Mark, it's so the Titans are

1322
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Speaker 11: like the best example maybe I've ever seen of how

1323
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Speaker 11: fast the NFL can come at you. It was it

1324
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 11: feels like it was two years ago that they may

1325
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 11: have had the best O line in the league. And

1326
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Speaker 11: it was like Taylor Lewan, Roger Saffold, Benji, Nate Davis,

1327
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 11: Jack Kontlin. Maybe that was three years ago. But now

1328
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 11: it's like they're all gone. Not one of those guys

1329
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 11: is there anymore. Like that's how fast it can change.

1330
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Speaker 11: They need Dillard to play, to play well at left tackle.

1331
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 11: That way they can keep Skronski get guard, and if

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Speaker 11: they do that, I think they'll be in pretty good shape.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 11: It's funny, I guess to answer your question, I would

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Speaker 11: say Denver. The two that jump out to me are

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Speaker 11: probably Denver and Denver, Pittsburgh and Chicago.

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Speaker 10: That's three, by the way. But Denver bringing in McGlinchey

1338
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 10: in powers although that that makes to be seen.

1339
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 11: You know, like just because a team pays to bring

1340
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 11: in two established starters from other teams doesn't necessarily mean

1341
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 11: those guys are always.

1342
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 10: Gonna play quite as well.

1343
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 11: In their new city or with new teammates. But certainly

1344
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 11: Denver went up in my rankings because of adding those

1345
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 11: two guys, and then Pittsburgh and Chicago I mentioned earlier

1346
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 11: in the show. I think Saamlo is a really good player,

1347
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 11: and so for Pittsburgh to get kind of his veteran

1348
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 11: presence and to have him next to if Broderick Jones

1349
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 11: ends up starting at some point at left tackle, the

1350
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 11: rookie first rounder, I think it's invaluable to have saam

1351
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 11: Olo nextra Kelsey. Jason Kelsey for Philadelphia said that Saamlo

1352
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 11: is the smartest player ever played with. Wow, so that

1353
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 11: really helps a rookie like Broderick Jones to say Amlo

1354
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 11: can essentially just make sure he knows who to block

1355
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 11: every play. That's a big step in the right direction.

1356
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 11: And then you know, the Bears are kind of the

1357
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 11: opposite of the Titans.

1358
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 10: Last year.

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Speaker 11: The only reason why I didn't have the Bears ranked

1360
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 11: thirty thirty is because there's only thirty two teams. I mean,

1361
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 11: last year, I thought the Bears old line would be

1362
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 11: a disaster. But what happened is it turns out that

1363
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 11: Tevin Jenkins, of all people who had been a bust

1364
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 11: for two years ago at tackle, is a good guard.

1365
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 11: And they had a rookie fifth round pick from Southern

1366
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 11: tah named Braxton Jones, who I think is a starting

1367
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 11: left tackle in.

1368
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 10: The league and pretty good.

1369
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 11: And then they added Nate Davis and free agency to

1370
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 11: play right guard. And they've got Darnell Wright, who I

1371
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 11: loved out of college to play right tackle from Tennessee,

1372
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 11: and that enables them to have white Hair at center,

1373
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 11: which is definitely his best spot. And now all of

1374
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 11: a sudden, the Bears go from me thinking that they

1375
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 11: were poor last year to average this year, which makes

1376
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 11: a really really big difference for fields and the offensive skill.

1377
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 3: Guys in Chicago, very good, Ross Tucker, you've said it all.

1378
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 3: Good man, Good luck in the booth. We will be listen.

1379
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 3: Are we going to be fair, yes, but are we

1380
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 3: going to be rooting for you?

1381
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: Yes?

1382
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely when it comes to time to really measuring what's

1383
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 3: going on in that booth. And let's tease it this

1384
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 3: way and again check out Ross the Ross Tucker Football

1385
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 3: Podcast and everywhere else next time on the show Ross

1386
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 3: Snowblower Incident.

1387
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: That's how we lead.

1388
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 11: Ooh yeah, that's a bad story, but I'm happy to

1389
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 11: I'm happy to tell it.

1390
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, the mystery of it might be better, but we'll

1391
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 8: just tease at that may.

1392
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 3: People will always tease every Ross appearance going forward with

1393
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 3: the snowblower exhibit.

1394
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: Never actually hit it. That's the plan. Ross, Thanks Bud,

1395
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: Thanks Ross, Thank you, Hey, then you guys.

1396
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 10: For having me. Great scene. You guys, keep up the

1397
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 10: great work.

1398
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: Thanks Pal. Thanks there he goes.

1399
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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Just so everybody knows, Ross's countdown one through ten is Eagles, Lions, Browns, Chiefs, Ravens, Cowboys, Falcons, Falcons.

1401
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 2: Some of the team started.

1402
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: Vikings, Chargers, Packers.

1403
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 8: Some of the team stories a bottom are more like, yeah,

1404
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 8: we expect the Seas to be good. He had him

1405
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 8: twenty sixth. The Jaguars fans, I think will take some

1406
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 8: issue with them being.

1407
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: The first mention of their attack.

1408
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 8: Sure they drafted uh Anton Harrison, who uh looked okay

1409
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 8: this weekend. I think he's playing right tackle. You got Walker.

1410
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 2: I mean it makes a breaks team.

1411
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 8: If they really were the thirty first offensive line, then

1412
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 8: they're being overrated the same like Seahawks.

1413
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 2: He had twenty six. We'll see Jets.

1414
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 8: We've talked about those concerns the forty nine ers I mentioned,

1415
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 8: I don't think it's the best chance of hit. Might

1416
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 8: be the worst line they've had since he's been there.

1417
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 3: The blow average tier and down is Jets, Giants, Seahawks, Bucks, Cardinals,

1418
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 3: and then started with a poor tier which he also

1419
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 3: called ross, the no chance tier Commanders. That seems problematic

1420
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 3: with a young quarterback, Rams, Jaguars and as we say tight.

1421
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 6: I hope that is five playoff teams from a year ago.

1422
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 2: Someone wants sad dog.

1423
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 3: It's fair, you know. Justin Graver can't be very happy

1424
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 3: about this either. I would love our old producer.

1425
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: They were a giant.

1426
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 8: They were, I mean again and on a paper they

1427
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 8: are a disaster. They actually had one of the more

1428
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 8: surprising storylines. I know we're getting going, but like the

1429
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 8: fact that Malik Willis versus Will Levis is a legit

1430
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,919
Speaker 8: battle and people thought it was going to be will

1431
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 8: Levis versus Tannehill, and Willis looked much better than he

1432
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 8: did a year ago, and Levis looked like a lot

1433
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 8: of the rookies a little overwhelmed and is playing behind

1434
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 8: Willis right now. It's one of the more more surprising

1435
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 8: But again, the story lines, and they're all in deep

1436
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 8: trouble behind that ovens.

1437
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 7: Well that's the thing, like you got hat these guys

1438
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 7: playing behind the starters of the thirty second ranked line

1439
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 7: in the league, backups to the worst lines. So it's

1440
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 7: like and you got you know that? How do we

1441
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 7: will Levis like put him. I'd start in the game

1442
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 7: or two just to see him behind some starters.

1443
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll flip them, maybe they'll flip them.

1444
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,439
Speaker 8: But I really feel like Tannehill's been done, done, dirty, done,

1445
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 8: a disservice.

1446
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:38,439
Speaker 1: Tough sitch, tough stitch.

1447
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 3: Two quick running back notes before we say goodbye one

1448
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 3: rahaps She reports that Jonathan Taylor, who has been away

1449
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 3: from the team, getting additional rehab on his ankle.

1450
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: That's one way to put it.

1451
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 3: The other way to put it is he's pissed because

1452
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 3: they won't pay him, the Colts being the they. He's

1453
01:06:56,320 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 3: back with the Indy. As of Monday, he remained on

1454
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 3: the pup list and his stance, according to Ian, has

1455
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 3: not changed, but he has returned and in other news,

1456
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 3: Kendriy miller I mentioned him earlier in the show The

1457
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 3: Saints Rookie running Back reporting out there Now from ESPN.

1458
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 3: He is not expected to miss extensive time after leaving

1459
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 3: that game with a knee injury. According to a source

1460
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 3: Good News.

1461
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 7: There is one other JK. Dobbins has been activated from

1462
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 7: the pup list. The hole in situation.

1463
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 3: It's a little bundle there of running back news to

1464
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 3: close the show, backfield bundle, beautiful speaking, beautiful, great work,

1465
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 3: hinge hitting. Randy Chavez total confidence that he would succeed.

1466
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 3: Christy Stableton behind waving her arms. Why don't I get

1467
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 3: the respect.

1468
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, Christy's really the reason why.

1469
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: This ship didn't go down.

1470
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: So that's see, that's the leader that you are. And

1471
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: you don't have that funk music.

1472
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 3: By the way, if you do, I'd really love to

1473
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 3: sing your praises and yeah, Christy as well, a little

1474
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 3: funk jake funk kind of. He got through the line

1475
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 3: a couple times for the Colts in limited action.

1476
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 6: It was surprised.

1477
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: Not you, not at all.

1478
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 6: That's how it works.

1479
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 8: They only need like four more people to get hurt

1480
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 8: or hold out.

1481
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 6: Or he'll always find out.

1482
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 8: He'll mind on this time.

1483
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:32,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, thank you Randy and Christy

1484
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: holding it down. We'll be back let's keep this, let's

1485
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: play out with this.

1486
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 3: We'll be back on Wednesday, the three of us with

1487
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 3: another program, not just any program, the forty seventh Annual

1488
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 3: Fantasy Extravaganza.

1489
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: With special guests.

1490
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 3: We will get you ready for your fantasy draft, hell

1491
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 3: or high water.

1492
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 7: This is one you don't want to tell your friends about, right,

1493
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 7: you get that edge up on them, right.

1494
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: But that would affect our metrics slightly, So tell everyone.

1495
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1496
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 3: I'm a little torn because I do want I hard

1497
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 3: listeners to do the best. But the Fantasy Extravaganza is

1498
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 3: back on Wednesday, and of course tomorrow, Colleen and I

1499
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 3: are back with Hard Knocks creakap episode two, immediately after

1500
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 3: the West Coast airing of that NFL Films HBO joint

1501
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 3: anything else, Greg, he gets it til tomorrow, he the call.

1502
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 3: Turn this up on my earphones,