Speaker 1: Welcome to Carefully Reckless, the production of Our Heart Radio
Speaker 1: and the Black Effect. Oh should we onna air? Welcome
Speaker 1: back to yet another carefully Reckless episode with your girl
Speaker 1: just hilarious. I'm gonna jump straight in just fix my
Speaker 1: mess now again. These people will remain anonymous. And like
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Speaker 1: that might be the reason that I don't read it in.
Speaker 1: Your story may actually really be good, and I actually
Speaker 1: may have some really good advice for you, but please
Speaker 1: felt check, guys, please please please jumping straight in, Hey
Speaker 1: jos I need help. I'm sick of my baby father
Speaker 1: and his damn Okay, okay, I'm gonna start that over then,
Speaker 1: all right, Hey Jess, I need help. I'm sick of
Speaker 1: my baby father and his inconsistent ass. Ways, let me backtrack.
Speaker 1: We've been together for seven years, have a child together,
Speaker 1: and all through the relationship there was something that should
Speaker 1: have caused us to break up, like his first baby
Speaker 1: mother or the jail stuff. But I stayed and we
Speaker 1: have a child. Now. One thing she's gonna keep telling
Speaker 1: me is we got that child. Okay, they got that child.
Speaker 1: So if y'all didn't know for the third time already,
Speaker 1: and I'm only ten seconds into the story, they have
Speaker 1: a child, all right. Now. I had to go through
Speaker 1: so much from my place. I called home on my
Speaker 1: own with nothing but minimal assistance from him. I got
Speaker 1: my keys, he lives with me. There's no real bills
Speaker 1: being paid. He's still got stuff going on with the law.
Speaker 1: And all he can say for me to not want
Speaker 1: to give up is because of love or starting over.
Speaker 1: But it's said because I want to start over. And
Speaker 1: she wrote that in all caps to y'all want to
Speaker 1: start over, and not with anyone in particular, just a
Speaker 1: do over to be happy. I don't feel loved or appreciated.
Speaker 1: I feel used. I feel like I'm here for comfortability.
Speaker 1: In the minute he gets go, he's gone. Now. I
Speaker 1: don't know what that means. That could be some new slang.
Speaker 1: And if y'all know what it means, then y'all tell me.
Speaker 1: If not, We're just gonna keep on rolling, mainly because
Speaker 1: I don't try to make him feel bad, but I
Speaker 1: get mad at him when he thinks he has some
Speaker 1: say so on some ship in my house. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be like it's mine, mine, mine. But I
Speaker 1: worked hard alone with my child and he just piggybacks
Speaker 1: off of what I do and what I did. I
Speaker 1: have to help him do everything at his twenty nine
Speaker 1: years of age, job applications, everything, and I know it's
Speaker 1: not because he don't know how. He just feels like
Speaker 1: I should, and when I don't, I'm always looked at wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to resent him and I'm not sure what
Speaker 1: to do. Yes, I love him and my in love. No.
Speaker 1: Do I think I've outgrown this. Yes, but I'm also
Speaker 1: a virgo and I do impulse of things when I'm
Speaker 1: in my feelings. Your podcast always gives me clarity on things.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, baby girls. So look, I'm gonna start off
Speaker 1: by saying I'm gonna quaries and I do impulsive things
Speaker 1: out of emotion. So I don't think that's a sign thing.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's an astrology thing. I think
Speaker 1: that's more of just an emotional person. Who you are
Speaker 1: all women, I'm not even gonna say we're women. So
Speaker 1: we do that because all women don't react that way
Speaker 1: too emotions or when they're in their feelings, and all
Speaker 1: men don't do that. I know men that do it,
Speaker 1: and I know women that do it. It's just you
Speaker 1: are very in tune with three emotions, and sometimes we
Speaker 1: don't know how to control ourselves when we're so deep
Speaker 1: in our feelings. So don't put that on all Virgos
Speaker 1: because I'm pretty sure all of Virgo's listeners probably like girl,
Speaker 1: I'll be doing it, you know. So you ask yourself
Speaker 1: a series of questions, you know, And these are all
Speaker 1: the questions I was gonna ask. Other than do you
Speaker 1: love him? I know you love him, I was going
Speaker 1: to ask you, are you in love? You know? And
Speaker 1: that's two different things. A lot of people have their
Speaker 1: own beliefs on that, their own thanks I call it thanks.
Speaker 1: They're their own beliefs or thinks on that. But I
Speaker 1: believe that there is a difference. I do believe that
Speaker 1: they're Also is a difference between loving someone and loving
Speaker 1: someone unconditionally. So obviously you don't love him unconditionally. You're
Speaker 1: not in love and you think you've outgrown him. So basically,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what you're looking for. You're looking
Speaker 1: for a confirmation. That's what it is. It seems like
Speaker 1: you already know what you want to do. You know
Speaker 1: that you want to start over. You put that in
Speaker 1: all caps, girl, you wanted to start over, and then
Speaker 1: you didn't only write it once, you wrote it twice.
Speaker 1: You're done. You're tired. You're tired of him leaching, You're
Speaker 1: tired of being superwoman of the house. And listen, while
Speaker 1: that is something that we will always have to do
Speaker 1: when you leave him. If you leave him, if you're
Speaker 1: just in the household by yourself with your child, yes,
Speaker 1: you have to be superwoman. You have to be a
Speaker 1: hero to that child. You have to be the role model,
Speaker 1: you have to be the stature you do. But when
Speaker 1: a man is there, some of that weight is supposed
Speaker 1: to be lifted from your shoulders and you don't feel
Speaker 1: like you have a support system. Basically, he leans on
Speaker 1: you for support, so does your child. So who do
Speaker 1: you lean on? And I understand that, So you feel
Speaker 1: like you can do it by yourself without the man
Speaker 1: in the house. If you're doing it with the man
Speaker 1: in the house. You understand what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: think you're just looking for a confirmation. Girl twenty nine
Speaker 1: years old and you have to help him fill out applications. Listen,
Speaker 1: that is not your oldest child. But I know that
Speaker 1: it feels like it. I know it feels like I've
Speaker 1: been in a relationship like this before. The only thing
Speaker 1: is I do not have children with the guy. But
Speaker 1: I felt as if I was taking care of someone
Speaker 1: else's son who was supposed to be taking care of
Speaker 1: his responsibilities and helping to take care of me in
Speaker 1: my household because it was my house. He just moved
Speaker 1: in it. I was always the breadwinner, taking care of
Speaker 1: him and I and my son, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And there were times that I struggled trying to take
Speaker 1: care of all three of us because I didn't always
Speaker 1: have the best damn job, but I could always fend
Speaker 1: for myself. After going through a bunch of obstacles when
Speaker 1: my son was younger, you know, I vowed to never
Speaker 1: ever go back there again, so I've always worked my
Speaker 1: ass off. So listen, I do understand. If you're looking
Speaker 1: for confirmation, I'm giving it to you. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: because the only thing that you said positive about this
Speaker 1: whole ordeal is that you do love him, That you
Speaker 1: do love him, but you love yourself more. You love
Speaker 1: your mental stability more. No woman or man should have
Speaker 1: to live miserably to accommodate somebody else's feelings. I was
Speaker 1: just speaking on this on last week's episode. We robbed
Speaker 1: ourselves of happiness at the expense of other people's feelings.
Speaker 1: We lose ourselves in our relationships and our friendships and
Speaker 1: and with these bonds, and we we attach ourselves to
Speaker 1: these people, and we give them the sense of entitlement
Speaker 1: by doing so. That allows you, in some cases, to
Speaker 1: even give power to someone. You know you're you're giving
Speaker 1: someone power over you. When you dim your light to shine,
Speaker 1: there is brighter and they ain't even gonna shine on
Speaker 1: their own. You understand what I'm saying. So that's what
Speaker 1: you're doing. You're constantly building this man up, and I
Speaker 1: think it's training you. Now you've come to the point
Speaker 1: where I don't know how old you are, but if
Speaker 1: he's twenty nine, I guess you're not too far before
Speaker 1: or after him. You know what you want. You're a woman,
Speaker 1: a strong beautiful black woman. I'm looking at your picture
Speaker 1: right now, you and that sounds kind of creepy, but
Speaker 1: you know that I'm looking at your picture right now. Relax,
Speaker 1: I just want to take some pictures. I'm joking. I'm sorry. Um,
Speaker 1: you seem like you know exactly what you want, not
Speaker 1: seeing you know what you want. So now you just
Speaker 1: have to take that step, and that actually needs to
Speaker 1: be a conversation with him as well, and do not
Speaker 1: let him say, well, you seem like, yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let him keep reeling you back in because this has
Speaker 1: been the same song and dance for a while now
Speaker 1: as you have put it. So I think you should
Speaker 1: sit and tell him there needs to be a conversation.
Speaker 1: Communicate with him exactly how you communicated with me. Tell
Speaker 1: him and just say listen, I'm going to let this go.
Speaker 1: I know that we have a child and I and
Speaker 1: I've tried, and I tried, and I tried to make
Speaker 1: it work for my family because I don't want my
Speaker 1: child to grow up in a broken household or two
Speaker 1: different households. But I cannot keep carrying all this weight
Speaker 1: by myself. If he doesn't understand that he's still got
Speaker 1: so much learning to do about the woman he was
Speaker 1: with all this time. Because he's supposed to know you.
Speaker 1: He's supposed to know that you're tired. He's supposed to
Speaker 1: know that he got to get his ass up and
Speaker 1: get his ship together. He's supposed to know you will
Speaker 1: leave his ass. He's supposed to know that he is
Speaker 1: fucking replaceable, whether he is your child's father or not.
Speaker 1: He's supposed to know, but he does not. So sometimes
Speaker 1: you gotta show motherfucker's something for them to learn. And
Speaker 1: that's just it. Checked back in with me, boo. Hold up,
Speaker 1: Hold up, I know the ship getting good, but listen
Speaker 1: to just a couple of seconds of a commercial with
Speaker 1: you love Me. You'll listen. Moving on, Hey, Jess, girl,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just get straight into it. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's more of a question or a conversation, but
Speaker 1: what is up with the mentality of men these days? Girl?
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure it out. At thirty five
Speaker 1: years old, I am finding that the problem with these
Speaker 1: men are one and the same within the African American
Speaker 1: dating community. Come on, stats now, I have never been
Speaker 1: good at sugarcoating ship. So here we go. Where is
Speaker 1: the black man's mentality today. Are y'all trying to be thugs, hustlers, pimps, bums, delinquents,
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs or just plain old felons like do better my
Speaker 1: Brother's because I'm finding that the ones trying ain't trying
Speaker 1: hard enough. And this is not to ignore the many independent,
Speaker 1: successful black males. I know y'all exist, but this ain't
Speaker 1: about you. All right now, I love her, Okay, you
Speaker 1: could be doing everything right in a relationship and your
Speaker 1: mentality still be long. I try not to judge a
Speaker 1: man for being on hard times. I met my man
Speaker 1: at work, but ship. He's not stable, doesn't have his
Speaker 1: own apartment, lives with his dad. We've been together for
Speaker 1: a year, but don't ask me about moving in. Now
Speaker 1: I have to question why a grown ass man doesn't
Speaker 1: want his own ship. Moving in. Ship is for marriage,
Speaker 1: because if you miss me so badly, marry me, Like damn.
Speaker 1: I want to go to my man's house, lay up
Speaker 1: in his ship, smell his clothes, wash his dishes, see
Speaker 1: how he lives and maintains. I need all men to
Speaker 1: drop this mentality and pick up a new one, because
Speaker 1: I'm a grown ass woman. You niggas have no education,
Speaker 1: no experience. Get the jobs you can get, work your
Speaker 1: ass off, Let that hustle man street ship go and
Speaker 1: create stability for yourself and your family. I was homeless
Speaker 1: before too, and now what I value most in this life.
Speaker 1: The only thing that matters as an adult is stability.
Speaker 1: M hmm. I would love to pack a bag and
Speaker 1: be at my man's house or whatever for the day.
Speaker 1: This is a serious issue, clearly because all of y'all
Speaker 1: are miserable, trying to live together, thinking you're saving money,
Speaker 1: moving too fast and making this ship the new normal. Ladies,
Speaker 1: cut the desperation and leave that man outside. Funk all
Speaker 1: that moving and ship for real, for real, start making
Speaker 1: these men stand on their own. It'll be a domino effect, hopefully. Anonymous. Please,
Speaker 1: oh baby, listen, let's just time out for a second. Lord.
Speaker 1: I want to shout up and down my house right now.
Speaker 1: She spoke so many words, dropped so many gems. And
Speaker 1: do you know what the first thing somebody will say
Speaker 1: about this woman, Oh she's an angry black woman. Oh
Speaker 1: she wants she got our ship together, She wants everybody
Speaker 1: to have their ship together. She think her ship don't
Speaker 1: stink can't nobody go through nothing. You're not gonna meet
Speaker 1: a man who's just gonna be perfect. That ain't what
Speaker 1: she said. And she's also says she's been homeless before,
Speaker 1: and so she knows what the meaning of stability is.
Speaker 1: She knows the value of being stable. He knows what
Speaker 1: that can do for your life. This girl don't need
Speaker 1: no goddamn advice. You're asking me to fix your mass girl,
Speaker 1: you don't even know. You probably just fix some of
Speaker 1: my ship. Damn. So now I gotta go back and
Speaker 1: see what the funk she needed, because hold up, I
Speaker 1: ain't all right, right, right, okay? And I was gonna
Speaker 1: say I ain't. I ain't fixed the sheen tell me
Speaker 1: about a specific man. She just want to know why
Speaker 1: these niggers out here acting this way? Why is the
Speaker 1: mentality of a man so shallow these days? Really? Seriously, Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you guys aren't confident. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you guys don't believe that you look good. You don't
Speaker 1: believe in yourselves. You just don't want more for yourself,
Speaker 1: and if you do, you don't act on it. There
Speaker 1: is no action behind it. That's what she wants to know,
Speaker 1: and she's thirty five years old. She's trying to figure out.
Speaker 1: She says she was dating a man for a year
Speaker 1: now he was already living with his dad. Now, she
Speaker 1: probably gave him the benefit of the doubt because I
Speaker 1: know a couple of you' all like, well, she don't
Speaker 1: want to stay with him for a year. She knew
Speaker 1: he was living with his dad when she met him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but she tried to give it some time. That's what
Speaker 1: she's saying. She gave it a year. The nigga still
Speaker 1: was living with his dad, and he probably asked her
Speaker 1: to move in with her, or when we're gonna get
Speaker 1: a place together. She want to be able to date
Speaker 1: until married. No, we're boyfriend girlfriend. We're doing this ship right.
Speaker 1: You live over there. I live over here. Now when
Speaker 1: we get married, nigga, we can move in. We can
Speaker 1: talk about all that moving in ship when we get married.
Speaker 1: You missed me so badly, You missed me bad enough
Speaker 1: to be with me every night, you know, to sleep
Speaker 1: with me every night, to wake up with me every morning,
Speaker 1: to live with me. I cook for you. I do
Speaker 1: all of this ship. Where we are one now we
Speaker 1: are under the same house. Old nigga, marry me? Where
Speaker 1: is that ring? Okay? I do believe, I do, I do,
Speaker 1: really do believe that people get in these relationships barely
Speaker 1: even knowing each other. Yeah, you could be with somebody
Speaker 1: for six months and still don't know everything that you
Speaker 1: need to know about them before moving in with them.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're gonna know everything about a person
Speaker 1: in order to live with them. No, you don't need
Speaker 1: to know everything about a person because listen, there are
Speaker 1: married couples that still getting to know each other that
Speaker 1: have been together for years and years and years. Because
Speaker 1: as people grow, people change. No, no, I hate that
Speaker 1: we're change. I'm gonna change that. Listen. People evolve and
Speaker 1: some people grow together and some people don't. Some people
Speaker 1: evolve differently than others. Some people evolve differently than their mates.
Speaker 1: Some husbands evolved differently than their wives. So yes, you
Speaker 1: will always be getting to know your partner. Okay, So
Speaker 1: don't take that the wrong way. It's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: But I think that these young people and these older
Speaker 1: people both they getting these relationships without even really knowing
Speaker 1: everything that they need to know about a person. Then
Speaker 1: they moved together, and you know, to save money, They
Speaker 1: play house, they play in the marriage thing. Nobody even
Speaker 1: talks about being married. We're gonna moving together. I don't
Speaker 1: even know if the funk you even have a desire
Speaker 1: for marriage. I don't even know if I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: with you and five years or even if that's something
Speaker 1: that I want, because no one knows what the future holes.
Speaker 1: But you do know what you want. You do know,
Speaker 1: and you can dictate what you want to. You can
Speaker 1: depict your life off of your wants and your knees
Speaker 1: and and your goals and what you are looking for,
Speaker 1: what you're striving for, and then before you know it,
Speaker 1: that's wasted time, wasted money, wasted effort. And now you
Speaker 1: guys live with each other and you can't stand one another.
Speaker 1: And then you thought you was gonna get this amazing guy,
Speaker 1: and you thought she was gonna get this amazing woman,
Speaker 1: and it was gonna be that way. Now y'all didn't
Speaker 1: get to know each other. Y'all didn't get to miss
Speaker 1: each other, because now y'all live with each other. And
Speaker 1: what you didn't know before you know now. But now
Speaker 1: you live with this motherfucker, So now everything she do
Speaker 1: pisses you off. Everything he would do pisses you off
Speaker 1: and you want out, But y'all signed the damn least,
Speaker 1: so now you're in limbo. I totally agree with everything
Speaker 1: that she said. Listen, and she is also speaking from experience.
Speaker 1: She's not talking down on anyone. She's speaking from experience
Speaker 1: because she was homeless before, she struggled before, and that's
Speaker 1: how she learned the importance of stability, guys, and getting
Speaker 1: something on your own, getting that ship on your own,
Speaker 1: being independent, not meeting a motherfucker for nothing. Now, listen,
Speaker 1: everybody needs somebody, but that's not what I'm saying. Listen.
Speaker 1: If I need a thousand dollars and I didn't have it,
Speaker 1: and I called my mother and she couldn't give it
Speaker 1: to me. I called my father, he couldn't give it
Speaker 1: to me. I'm going to get it some type of way.
Speaker 1: Now I'm a hint on this, and then I'm moving
Speaker 1: on because this is a serious thing. This is a
Speaker 1: very serious question that she asks. Why are the mentality
Speaker 1: of guys like this these days? Listen? She said, where
Speaker 1: is the black man's mentality today? Are y'all trying to
Speaker 1: be thugs, hustless pimps, bums? Delinquents, entrepreneurs or plain old felons.
Speaker 1: And mind you, she shouted out the guys who are
Speaker 1: all the successful black males, But she ain't talking about
Speaker 1: you all right now, all right, So I see that
Speaker 1: a lot. I see that a lot too, Babe. I
Speaker 1: do the thugs, the the bombs, the leeches, that the
Speaker 1: niggas that leach off women, and and you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm gonna tell you all this. And I
Speaker 1: was moving on on YouTube. Me and my son's father
Speaker 1: used to do this series called co Parenting Therapy. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys are familiar. If you're not,
Speaker 1: check it out listen. We started this over the pandemic,
Speaker 1: and I remember Jerome sitting next to me saying, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a new day and age. Now I want
Speaker 1: a woman to take care of me. I need a
Speaker 1: woman to take care of me. I'm okay with a
Speaker 1: woman taking kre of me. I want a woman to
Speaker 1: take care of me. Times have changed, so yeah, now
Speaker 1: y'all take care of us. And I remember the feeling
Speaker 1: that went through me. I remember the fine hairs on
Speaker 1: my skin just stud up. And I remember back handing
Speaker 1: the ship out of Jerome. I'm talking about just so
Speaker 1: Bunyan like right, Cross has goddamn face. And then I
Speaker 1: woke up. I'm like, oh, ship, I had a day
Speaker 1: dream of me smacking the ship out this nigga for
Speaker 1: saying that on a platform. That was a day dream
Speaker 1: I didn't touch in real life. It's actually you can
Speaker 1: literally see me in a trance when he says that,
Speaker 1: you can see me zone out and just go into
Speaker 1: my own mental space. When he says that, like I
Speaker 1: checked out, go watch them episodes. I could not believe
Speaker 1: that he said that. I'm like what He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: sh it, I don't care. And this is right when
Speaker 1: I was about to stop that series because that nigga
Speaker 1: was moving into a place that I helped to move
Speaker 1: into and I helped him buy some furniture, and instead
Speaker 1: of saying thank you, this nigga was like, damn, you
Speaker 1: wrot me a bedroom set with no mattress. Again. I
Speaker 1: daydreamed that I pushed this nigga out in front of
Speaker 1: the car, got in it and rolled them over, backed
Speaker 1: up and rolled them over again. I remember daydreaming that,
Speaker 1: And this is very revealing to you guys that I
Speaker 1: have these strange visions. But I would never do anything
Speaker 1: to hurt my son's father, just just letting you know.
Speaker 1: But I cannot believe that men actually think like that.
Speaker 1: He doesn't think like that now, because we've come a far,
Speaker 1: far along fucking way and he no, damn well, he
Speaker 1: ain't read be in my life thinking like that. And
Speaker 1: that ain't what you're about to teach your damn sons either,
Speaker 1: And that ain't what you're teaching your damn daughters to
Speaker 1: take care of these niggas. No, you don't raise a
Speaker 1: woman to take care of a man. You raise them
Speaker 1: to take care of their households. Don't get a misconstrued
Speaker 1: what I said. You raise a woman to take care
Speaker 1: of her household. You raise a man to take care
Speaker 1: of his family. It's two different things, and y'all can
Speaker 1: beg to differ all you want. Now I'm going to
Speaker 1: speak from experience me growing up. My mother took care
Speaker 1: of the household, Okay, my father took care of us
Speaker 1: the family, not saying he had nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the household. But the woman is who makes the house
Speaker 1: at home, Okay, the man is the provider of the family.
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say traditionally. That's how I was raised,
Speaker 1: and that's how my friends growing up was raised. That's
Speaker 1: how neighborhoods was, that's how communities was, that's how it was.
Speaker 1: I guess you can say traditionally. I don't really like
Speaker 1: to even use tradition. I don't really like to use
Speaker 1: that word because everybody has different traditions. It's different traditions
Speaker 1: for different people. So I really don't like to just say,
Speaker 1: just throw my tradition out there on everybody. But that's
Speaker 1: how I was raised, that's my belief. So back to you, girl,
Speaker 1: you are on the right path of that, and I
Speaker 1: think you need to stay exactly how you are. There
Speaker 1: is nothing wrong with how you think. Girl. That will
Speaker 1: be a man somewhere worshiping the ground you walk on.
Speaker 1: You stay true to yourself and you stay thinking like that. Girl.
Speaker 1: I love this. I love what she said. Should we
Speaker 1: need to check back in with her, don't we? Don't
Speaker 1: you know how I tell them? All right, y'all check
Speaker 1: back in with me after I try to fix the mess. Ship.
Speaker 1: We need to check back in with her ship m
Speaker 1: And I think it's safe to say we get ended
Speaker 1: right here today, y'all. Thank you for listening in with
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