1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: Third hour of Play and Buck kicks off. 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 2: Right now, I've got a lot to chat about eight 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: hundred and two eighty two two eight a two on 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: the phone lines now, RFK Junior. He had a moment there, 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: and Play had him on the show. I don't think 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: I actually got to interview him that day. I know 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: it wasn't the first time. I don't think we didn't 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: have it a second time. I was skeptical that he 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: would manage to get very far the Democrat party. At 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: one point he was polling somewhere around the twenty percent 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: mark for Democrats, and now the more recent polls have 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: him stuck in the mid mid high single digits, you know, 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: seven eight nine percent something like that among Democrats. So 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: he is not a serious threat to Joe Biden at all. 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: Right now, that's that's just not going to happen. I 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: was skeptical that Democrats would allow an upstart challenge like 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: this to get very far. You'll notice the media really 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,919 Speaker 2: froze him out, the Democrat media. It was conservative media 19 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: shows like this one that were more interested in what 20 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: he had to say, particularly because of his breaking with 21 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: Democrat orthodoxy on Fauci and COVID I think he may 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: have as much disdain for Tony Fauci as I do, 23 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: which is saying a lot. That's a pretty impressive bar 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: that RFK Junior was able to able to cross. 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: Threshold. He was able to cross. 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: So now we have on Friday the revelation I was 27 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: sitting there, I just had You're just sweat pouring down 28 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: my forehead. I'm carrying. You know, one thing you learn 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: when you move, don't buy too many lamps and mirrors 30 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: because they're impossible. They're breaking, they break, they're heavy, they're 31 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: all over the place. Well, how much books way, I 32 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: bet you found that out too. Oh, I've I've I've 33 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: had to winnow down my book collection so many times 34 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: at this point from when i've I've moved and and 35 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: so yes, books are heavy. They're easy to pack those 36 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: that's easier, but they're heavy. So I'm I'm dealing with 37 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: the move and clay text and sure enough, I've got 38 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 2: the possibility RFK Junior third party candidacy. He hinted at 39 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:34,559 Speaker 2: this very much on Friday, And we'll see now where. 40 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: This actually goes. It is my belief. 41 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: And people are going to argue about this a lot 42 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: that RFK Junior has always had more interest and support 43 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: from disaffected Republicans disaffected with the system than Democrats, and 44 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 2: that when push comes to shove, Democrats tend to be 45 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 2: better at falling in line. Now, the er to that 46 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: argument would be Jill Stein in twenty sixteen, who I 47 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: think doesn't get very much attention and conservative or Republican 48 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: circles these days, because nobody really wants to hear that. 49 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: Without Jill Stein, Donald Trump doesn't beat Hillary Clinton. But 50 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: there's a very strong case by the numbers to be 51 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: made that that's the truth of twenty sixteen. So third 52 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: party candidates can have a massive effect because the way 53 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: that our elections are structured these days. Obviously, Ross Perro 54 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: back in the day got way more votes than well 55 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: maybe would have been anticipated until the votes were actually cast, 56 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: and because of that, Bill Clinton, with less than half 57 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: the vote, becomes President. Clay, how do you see this? 58 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: Because in my mind, all the talks we have about 59 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: the border and about the economy and about all these 60 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: things could perhaps be nullified and Biden could be effectively 61 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: handed a reelection or whoever the Democrat is. 62 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: If people think it's not gonna be Biden. 63 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: Because I think that RFK Junior pulls more Republican votes 64 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: than Democrat votes. Where do you come down on this? 65 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: I'm concerned that you're right about that. 66 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: And I put up a poll about an hour ago, 67 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: and I just said, if RFK Junior runs as a 68 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 3: third party nominee and Trump and Biden are nominees, do 69 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: you think he takes more vote from Trump? More votes 70 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: from Trump or Biden. Eleven thousand of you have voted 71 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: so far, fifty two percent of you say Biden, forty 72 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: eight percent of you say Trump. So my audience right 73 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: now voting on Twitter is essentially fifty to fifty and buck. 74 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 3: I've said there're three ways I think Trump beats Biden 75 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: in the event that they run against each other. One 76 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: way was that there's just lower turnout. I think we 77 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: have a stake bet. I expect that there will be less. 78 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: I think the total number in twenty twenty was one 79 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty six million, whatever that final tallly was 80 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: roughly one hundred and fifty six million. I think there 81 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: will be milli millions less people vote in twenty twenty four. 82 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 3: So I think lower turnout favors Trump third party. I 83 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: have been of the opinion that a third party helps Trump. 84 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 3: I'm nervous on this one. And then the third one 85 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 3: I said was Biden's health, that he has some something 86 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: that is just so impossible to ignore, even for Democrats. 87 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 3: In the next year if he's the nominee. I'm nervous 88 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: the more I think about it. I think that RFK 89 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: Junior helps Biden. And I think we have audio actually 90 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: of RFK Junior saying more of his supporters would hurt 91 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 3: Trump than would hurt Biden. Listen to this audio. This 92 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: is an interview that RFK Junior did, I think with 93 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: the comedian Theo Vaughn. 94 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: Listen. 95 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 4: And then the other thing is that I take more 96 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 4: votes from President Trump than I do from President Biden. 97 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: Right, So why would that help them? 98 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not helping them. 99 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: Okay. 100 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: So RFK Junior, based on the numbers that he's seen, 101 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: if he runs as a third party, a lot of 102 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 3: people are celebrating, saying, oh, this is bad for Biden. 103 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: I think it's actually worse from Trump. It is, And 104 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: I would say, you know. 105 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: All along, so I'll mean you know this, I was saying, guys, 106 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: he's a Democrat, all right, you know he says some 107 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: good things on a few issues, and I appreciate that, 108 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: and we'll call balls and strikes on it. At the 109 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: end of the day, he's a Democrat, he's a Kennedy, 110 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: He's Democrat royalty. He's not going to do something that 111 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: would destroy the Kennedy brand always in forever and helping 112 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: Donald Trump win the presidency would would do that. It's 113 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: something that would mean that all future Kennedy's, I think, 114 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: would be looked at in a very different light. 115 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: I don't see this. 116 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: I don't think it's it's overly complicated or I don't 117 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: think it's all that difficult to understand how this would 118 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 2: would actually go. 119 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: RFK Junior would. 120 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: Get some people that are kind of in that liberty 121 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: Terryan question the system space in places like Arizona and 122 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: Pennsylvania and Michigan, and those tend to be people that 123 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: I think are more likely to go Trump than they 124 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: would be to go Biden. And he doesn't have to 125 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: get a lot of votes to change the way this 126 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: election turned out. Jill Stein didn't get a lot of votes. 127 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: That was the other thing it can be. It's where 128 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: you get the votes, which is also why a lot 129 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 2: of this polling. Like, I know, everyone got all excited 130 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: about this poll that showed Trump ahead nine points on Biden. 131 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: If we do better in New York and California, you know, 132 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: if the Republican Party does better in twenty twenty four 133 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: in those states in a presidential sense, it doesn't matter. Yeah, 134 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 2: what matters is I mean, it's very clear what matters 135 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: are these swing states, and there's it's a much more 136 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: complicated morass in the swing states than it is just 137 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: looking at the national polling a year and a month 138 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: before the election. 139 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: Wow, we're thirteen months out. I just realized that. Thirteen months. 140 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: Okay, So let me ask you this, Buck, If you 141 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: and I both agree that RFK Junior helps Biden more 142 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: than he helps Trump, how strategic do you think? So 143 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: the report is let me also add this. I don't 144 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: think we said it yet. Mediaite reported that RFK Junior 145 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,679 Speaker 3: is going to announce third party run on October ninth. 146 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: That would be what next Monday, So one week from today. 147 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: That's a long run up. I don't know what he's 148 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: hoping to get. In the meantime, it feels like that's 149 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: a calculated leak. Maybe it's a desire to negotiate in 150 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: some way. That's what I always think. When people say 151 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to do something in ten days or twelve days, 152 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: I'm always like, what do they actually want? So I 153 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: do think it's worth asking, if this is a leak 154 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: that's calculated from the RFK junior camp, is he seeking 155 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: something that he could get from a negotiation perspective in 156 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: order to potentially forestall if he's actually going to announce, 157 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: what would you do if you're the Trump team, because 158 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: surely they recognize that this harms them. 159 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: I think it could. 160 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 3: I hate to say it, I think it could be 161 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: the kind of move that costs in all the swing states. 162 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: And I've been hammering you libertarians out there. I voted 163 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 3: libertarian before. I'm hammering libertarians. If you live in Georgia 164 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 3: or Wisconsin or Pennsylvania or Michigan or Nevada or Arizona 165 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: or New Hampshire. 166 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 167 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: You have no opportunity to actually elect a libertarian, but 168 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: in that space you could definitely help to ensure that 169 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: a Democrat get elected. In fact, if you go look 170 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 3: at all the libertarians that voted in twenty twenty, if 171 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: libertarians weren't on the ballot in those swing states, I 172 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: think Trump would have won the election. 173 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: Buck. 174 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: So do you try anything with RFK Junior if you're Trump, 175 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: because surely they would see this data and say it 176 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 3: doesn't work very positively for and given how close this 177 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: race could be, is there something you could offer to 178 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 3: RFK Junior to keep him from running third party? 179 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering. 180 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think there's any I 181 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: don't think there's any way. 182 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: And this is why. 183 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 2: Look, I everyone knows I was very skeptical of this 184 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 2: RFK Junior thing early on. 185 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: I was willing to hear him out. 186 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: He's good on COVID, that he's good on COVID, and 187 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: he doesn't sound crazy. 188 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: He talks about the border, you know. 189 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: Beyond that, he's a Democrat, and he got a lot 190 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 2: of attention on conservative I hate to say it, conservative 191 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: media kind of built this guy at this point. I mean, 192 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: he was much more of a fixture on the right 193 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: and getting time on on you know, box and on 194 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: talk radio than he was on the left because I 195 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: think that they saw at some level what was going 196 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: on here. I think that they understood that if he 197 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: actually you know, I think that there's an understanding that 198 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 2: he's really doing this out of his sense that he's 199 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 2: upset with the system, and they didn't want to build 200 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: him up against Biden. But now I think they're willing 201 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: to see that this is as the vote, as the 202 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 2: polls have come out, and as the understanding of who 203 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: really supports him has become more clear, he's gonna hurt conservatives. 204 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what else to say. They didn't want 205 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: h to hurt Biden, and I think they're past that window. 206 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: Now. 207 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: There was a window where he could have been a 208 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: real challenge to buy the Democrats shut him out. Now 209 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: we look at this and we say, oh my gosh, 210 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: if he runs third party, he could hurt Trump. 211 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: And we have to sit around and go. 212 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this is what happens when you tell everybody 213 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 2: on the right, this guy's fascinating. 214 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: Okay, So should Trump consider trying to get him in 215 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: the cabinet. I don't think you'd take it. 216 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: Cassantas said he'd look at him for CDC, for some 217 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: sort of role associated with that, because he was right 218 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: on COVID. I'm just tossing it out there. If we 219 00:11:54,160 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: lose because of libertarian voters, you people out there who 220 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: are listening that may be willing to vote libertarian. This 221 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: is why I said, and this is why I'm gonna 222 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: keep hammering this. All these people out there who if 223 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: we opened up phone lines and said, hey, if you're 224 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: a preferred candidate doesn't win in the primary, what are 225 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: you gonna do? Everybody says on the callers, They're like, 226 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: I wouldn't even vote. I'm just gonna stay home. If 227 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: my guy doesn't win or my girl doesn't win, I'm done. 228 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 3: You don't buy it. You think they're just lying. 229 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: We can't. 230 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: It can't be held hostage by people doing the if 231 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: I don't get my way saying. 232 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: I agree, But those people everyone can play this game. 233 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: Those people are ascendent on social media. All they do 234 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: is run around. They're like, my guy, my guy doesn't win, 235 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: and I'm I'm gonna just sit at home and I 236 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 3: hope the other I mean you people, and I've said 237 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: this before and I'm going to echo it, reiterate it. 238 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: I think you're a loser. I think if you are. 239 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 3: Engaged in the primary process and people say, you know, 240 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 3: shouldn't call somebody a loser, Well, if your decision guarantees 241 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: that you lose. 242 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: What other word is there for it? 243 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 3: Like, if you're truly going to sit home if your 244 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 3: candidate doesn't win, then you're in trouble. I think this 245 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: is going to get so complicated. Buck Carnell West is 246 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: evidently going to run as a Green Party. There's the 247 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: talk that the no Labels people are going to put 248 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: somebody forward. I think we may have four or five 249 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 3: candidates on the pole on the ballot in many states 250 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: before all of a sudden done. 251 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: You ask what could be done. I think Republicans, if 252 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: they want to be smart, need to maybe think about 253 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: giving a lot of a lot of attention to help 254 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: to Cornell West. Get him and make sure he's on 255 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: every ballot, make sure that he's a real force to 256 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 2: be reckoned with in some of these states, because that's 257 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: ninety percent Democrat votes that he would be siphoning off 258 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: ninety percent plus. I mean, you know, he's he's only 259 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: going to take Democrat votes away. So in that regard, 260 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: I doubt that he would. I doubt that it will 261 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: actually happen with him, But in that situation, that's what 262 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: I think would be best for them. You saw this 263 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: with Republicans in twenty twenty two where the Democrats supported 264 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: in primaries. And I know people don't lie like this, 265 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: they don't like hearing this sometimes, but they supported the 266 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: most right wing candidate, the most you know, right wing candidate, 267 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: and some of those candidates lost. 268 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: All of them did pretty much. There was almost no 269 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 3: blowback on Democrats for spending money to try to put 270 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: right wing candidates on the ballot in many toss up districts. 271 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: That's what they did. 272 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: They spent millions of dollars to put candidates that they 273 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: thought were unelectable on the ballot, which calls into question 274 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: if you truly thought democracy was in danger, would you 275 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: be trying to elevate people that had political opinions diametrically 276 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: opposed to you. Probably not. They just want to win. 277 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 3: That's all they care about. And that's where I think 278 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: Republicans have to get more aggressive and have to get 279 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: down in the weeds and have to get nastier. 280 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: Frankly, I don't. I'm so sick buck. 281 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: Of watching people try to win by the narrowest of margin, 282 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: Like if you are trying to win on a last 283 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: second field goal. In the context of sports, it means 284 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: that you failed during the course of the game to 285 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: actually put the game away. 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In other words, 309 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: do they have quants and analytics guys looking at this 310 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: RFK decision, which, if it's made in the next week, 311 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: could be among the most consequential political decisions made in 312 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three period, or do you think they're so 313 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: focused on all the other moving parts that they're not 314 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: necessarily dialed in on a situation like RFK Junior. 315 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: I think with Trump it is twenty twenty four is 316 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: just going to be like the basketball team, where the 317 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: strategy is give give our star player the ball and 318 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: see what he can do. I think it just all 319 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: comes down to Trump out there doing what he does 320 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: and everything else. You know, Look, he has some of 321 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: the people now that are that are senior in the campaign, 322 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: are our veterans and know what they're doing. So there 323 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: are some people around him that I think are in 324 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: a pretty good position. But overall, it's just going to 325 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: be about Trump Man, and however he rolls with all 326 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: this stuff. He's a one man show. 327 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 3: See that's my concern on some level is I want 328 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: the nerds crunching the numbers here on exactly what the 329 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 3: impact is of RFK junior, for instance, in the state 330 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: of Georgia or in the state of Arizona, and making 331 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 3: smart strategic decisions based on that. I get the sense 332 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: that we're kind of flying blind here. You and I 333 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 3: have the impression that RFK Junior is going to hurt 334 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 3: Trump more. What does the data actually reflect. I'd love 335 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 3: to see real hard data on this. 336 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: Pay close attention to our federal government's Treasury Department this fall. 337 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: According to former Wall Street insider Take It to Wari, 338 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: the government could soon announce a mandatory national recall on 339 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: the US dollar. They'd eventually replace it with a new 340 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: digital version that will be very different from the currency 341 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: system we have now. Digatiwari is suggesting that the official 342 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: announcement could come within months. 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Dollar Recall dot Com paid 351 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: for by Palm Beach Research Group. 352 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 4: Your Governor, Kathy Hoopol says the border is too open 353 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 4: right now? 354 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 5: Does the president think that the border is too open? 355 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: So here's what I will say. The President on his own, 356 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 4: without the help of Republicans in Congress, let's not forget, 357 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 4: he put forward a comprehensive piece of legislation to deal 358 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 4: with immigration reform. Remember, this immigration system has been broken 359 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 4: for decades, and it's been three years. That's been almost 360 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 4: three years since he put forth that piece of legislation 361 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 4: and things. There are three things that he has moved forward. 362 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 4: And when it comes to his plan and looking at 363 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 4: the border, there's enforcement and so we've deployed additional troops 364 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 4: and federal agents to the border and removed or returned 365 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 4: more than two hundred and fifty thousand individuals since May 366 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 4: twelfth alone. That's what we've been able to do without 367 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 4: the help of Republicans and deterrence. We've had the largest 368 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 4: expansion certainly of a pathways to pathways to a pathway 369 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 4: is in decades, and we've made clear that attempting to 370 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 4: cross the border on lawfully will result in prompt removal. 371 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: So Curie Jean Pierre asked about what's going on at 372 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 2: the border where the numbers show, So Joe Biden is 373 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: I think I think about sixty percent of the country 374 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 2: sixty sixty five percent of the country think he's doing 375 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: a bad job on the border. Thirty percent, you know, 376 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: hardcore left essentially think that he's doing an okay job. 377 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: You have a couple of other interesting things that have 378 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 2: happened recently with regard to the border. 379 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: One is the the. 380 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: Visit of Elon Well this wasn't just today, but this 381 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: was over on Friday, over the weekend. Elon Musk went 382 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 2: down to the border, which got a lot of attention, 383 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: and he's saying, you know, this is a huge problem, 384 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 2: and it is we effectively have an open border, and 385 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: people recognize that that is unsustainable, at least anyone who's 386 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 2: being honest recognizes that's unsustainable for the country. 387 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: And then the. 388 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 2: Mayor of New York City, cled New York massive crisis 389 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: right now, fiscal, legal, cultural crisis underway because of all 390 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: the illegal migrants in New York City. People say legal aliens, 391 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: and I say, I think technically they're not really under 392 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: federal code illegal aliens right now, that they will be 393 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: as soon as they don't show up for their court dates. 394 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: But the court dates won't be for a few years. 395 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: It's complicated. But they enter the country illegally, so I 396 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: guess in that case you can just say there are 397 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: legal aliens, or you know, you could make that case. 398 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: But Eric Adams play leaving to travel to Central America 399 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: to speak to leadership there about the migrant crisis. You know, 400 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: I don't wish to be overly like flippant about this, 401 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 2: but if you're going to try to tell people in 402 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: Honduras that they have a better future in Honduras than 403 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: showing up into New York, that's not gonna work, right, Yeah, 404 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, whatever one thinks of I'm not 405 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: trying to pick on Honduras any of these Central American 406 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 2: countries where you have a lot of migrants coming. Guatemala, 407 00:21:54,640 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: El Salvador, Nicaragua America is a much wealthier country with 408 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: much better financial prospects, much better you know, economic upside 409 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 2: for anybody who's considering this kind of a track. So 410 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: this idea that we're going to deal with the root causes, 411 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: it almost is all based on, first of all, the 412 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: fantasy that we could do anything substantial to change the 413 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: economic climate in these or any of these other countries. 414 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: I mean, the history of US four and AID is 415 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: a history of just abject failure and waste when you 416 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: really look at it, and to third world countries, and 417 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: the history or the reality of these migrants is that, 418 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: of course they're going to want to come to America, 419 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: and a visit from Eric Adam is not going to 420 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 2: stop that. 421 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 3: I think it's designed to distract from how bad the 422 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 3: situation is in New York. To me, the fact that 423 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: Eric Adams is even making a trip to Central America 424 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 3: is evidence of how much this border crisis is growing. 425 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: Let me give you a couple of stats here, Buck. 426 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: You mentioned the percentages in the Washington Post poll. Twenty 427 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 3: three percent of Americans agreed with Joe Biden's handling of 428 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: things at the southern border. Twenty three percent of all 429 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 3: of the issues in America today Joe Biden's approval ratings 430 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: on the border are the absolute lowest. 431 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: Two did you see. 432 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 3: Bill Clinton came out today and said that the border 433 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 3: was a disaster and they needed to fix it. Now, 434 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 3: we already know that Eric Adams basically has said the 435 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: same thing. Kathy Hokeel has intimated as much too correct 436 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong. Most of the time, former Democrat 437 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: presidents don't come out and say that any current Democrat 438 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 3: president is basically creating a disasterous situation. 439 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: The fact that Bill Clinton is saying this is I 440 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: think pretty significant. 441 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: It also buck is reflective of how far left wing 442 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: Democrats have gone. Bill Clinton ninety two and ninety six 443 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 3: would be a Republican campaign now easily, and even a 444 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: lot of Barack Obama two thousand and eight would be 445 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 3: a Republican campaign now. Remember Obama ran on civil unions, 446 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 3: directly rejecting the idea of gay marriage. You couldn't even 447 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: say that out loud if you were a Democrat. Now, yeah, 448 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 3: I mean triangulated. Bill Clinton with a Republican controlled House 449 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 3: and Speaker Nute Gingrich was certainly more reasonable on economic issues, 450 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 3: but because he had to be than what you would 451 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 3: see with Democrats now and the Democrat Party has moved 452 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 3: far left. So if you go back in previous decades 453 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: on social issues, they held positions, I mean even Barack 454 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: Obama on gay marriage. As you pointed out, this has 455 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: changed pretty rapidly. You mentioned Kathy Hokel. I just wanted 456 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 3: to let her have her say here on the show. 457 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 3: She says, the border is this is Clip sixteen wide open. 458 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 5: We want them to have a limit on who can 459 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 5: come across the border. It is too open right now. 460 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 5: People coming from all over the world are finding their 461 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 5: way through simply saying they need asylum, and the majority 462 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 5: of them seem to be ending up in the streets 463 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 5: of New York. We are always so proud of the 464 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 5: fact that New York has the Statue of Liberty in 465 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 5: our harbor. We are one of the most diverse places 466 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 5: on earth because of our welcoming nature, and it's in 467 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 5: our dna to welcome immigrants. But there has to be 468 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 5: some limits in place, and Congress has to put more 469 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 5: controls at the border. Talk about eliminating positions for border patrol, Well, 470 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 5: we actually need to double or quadruple those numbers. 471 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: You know why limited. 472 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: I mean, this is the argument that I've been having 473 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: with Democrats on this issue play for many, many years. Now, 474 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: I guess I guess I would be considered a long 475 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: time hawk on immigration or immigration hardliner. But I used 476 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: to always say, you know, what's the limit? And Democrats 477 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: would never answer the question. They would never and I 478 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: would say, we're taking in a million legally every year, 479 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: so how many illegals should we be taken every year? 480 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: And the response from the Democrat Party always used to 481 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: be the assessment that illegals are in any way a 482 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: problem or a challenge for the country is racist. 483 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is what they would say. 484 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: That is how they would beat you into submission for 485 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: year under all eight years under of Obama, under the 486 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 2: four years of Trump. That is what the Democrat position was. 487 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 2: If you talk about illegals as a challenge for the country, 488 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 2: you are a bad person and a racist. And now 489 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: you have a lot of very prominent Democrats saying, yeah, 490 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 2: we've got too many illegals, and it's dividing the party 491 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: in a substantial way. And I don't know how Joe 492 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: Biden handles this issue going forward. I think he can 493 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: just lie about crime. And as you pointed out and 494 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: we've said on the show, Biden was never a defund 495 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 2: the police guy. So there isn't a clip of him 496 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 2: saying we've got to defund the police like he can 497 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: at least argue that he's relatively moderate on crime. 498 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if you read the article. It's a 499 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: big article on Afghanistan over the weekend, and I'm sorry, 500 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 3: on Ukraine over the weekend. Buck In all of twenty 501 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: twenty three, neither side has gained really any territory at all. 502 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: They had a big graphic of amount of territory that 503 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 3: was gained. We were told, oh, just wait until this 504 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: Ukrainian offensive starts in the summer, it's going to change everything. 505 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: Essentially, we have a stalemate. 506 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: We have both sides locked and loaded in their trench warfare, 507 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 3: and neither side is really moving at all. 508 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: This is. 509 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: Going to be a replication, unfortunately, of Afghanistan. And when 510 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: I was there a decade oh gosh, now, hope for 511 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 2: a decade ago, it was apparent that we weren't fighting 512 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 2: a twenty year where we were fighting twenty one year wars. 513 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: I forget who's credited with that. Yeah, but that's the 514 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: truth is that every. 515 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: This time around we're gonna, you know, we're gonna turn 516 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 2: around the Afghan forces and we're gonna make everything. You know, 517 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: we're gonna rule of law and you know, girls in 518 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 2: school and all these things. Right, this was the every 519 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: year for twenty years, some version of that. And in Ukraine, 520 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 2: what you're gonna have is now they're gonna say, okay, fine, 521 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 2: we didn't you know, we didn't do it this time, 522 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: we didn't have the breakthrough. If only we give them 523 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: X next time, they're going to be able to break through. 524 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: And you're gonna get into this for years, and we 525 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: are in a. 526 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: Effectively, we are funding a war of attrition with Russia 527 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: which can put far more men in the field than 528 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: Ukraine can. 529 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: That is what we are doing. 530 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: We're funding a war of attrition where one side can 531 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: afford to lose a lot more in terms of manpower 532 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: than the other. 533 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: This is not gonna this is not gonna go well 534 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: for us. So you start to look at the argument. 535 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: Maybe we hit on this. 536 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: Tomorrow Buck there's a big Axios article talking about how 537 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 3: now Democrats are concerned that labeling the worst economy in 538 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 3: many of our lives bid nomics might not might not 539 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 3: have been a really smart move where you legitimately take 540 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 3: ownership instead of arguing, Hey, what most presidents do in 541 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: their first term as they prepare for the second term 542 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 3: is argue on the economy the other side when they're 543 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: taking over from the other side. 544 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: The other side totally screwed it up. 545 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 3: We're putting things on the right direction, but we need 546 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: four more years to make that economic reality become a 547 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: success story. Instead, Democrats have tried to argue, oh, Joe 548 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 3: Biden came into office, and thanks to Bidenomics, everything's better. 549 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: And every single one of you out there listening right now, 550 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 3: when you hear Bidenomics, it makes you want to, you know, 551 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: like make your hand into a fist. And certainly that's 552 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 3: the case why you're filling up your gas or when 553 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: you're seeing what that receipt is going to be as 554 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 3: you come out of the grocery store. 555 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: And so my point on this buck is this is. 556 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 3: Why Trump is the focus, because I don't even know 557 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 3: what you can point to after as we're coming into 558 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 3: we'll be in the fourth year of Joe Biden here 559 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 3: in about three months. There's nothing that he's made better. 560 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 3: And the arguments increasingly are becoming even more difficult to make. 561 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 3: And so it's going to come down to Trump is 562 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 3: a felon and they're going to take away your right 563 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: to have an abortion. That's going to be the entire 564 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 3: Democrat argument. It's not just Trump is a felon. I mean, 565 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 3: that's obviously a part of it. But the ultimate conclusion. 566 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: Is Trump is a felon who tried to overthrow the government, 567 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: and therefore if he wins this time, it's all over. 568 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: That is going to be their argument. 569 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I think we all need to be prepared 570 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 2: and ready for that, and the legal assault on Trump 571 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: is a part of that, really the centerpiece of that 572 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 2: narrative now going forward. 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Make sure you 599 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 3: download play Travis Bucks Sexton on iTunes Boom. 600 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: You can join the crew. 601 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: We're going to have a brand new podcast as part 602 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 3: of the Clay travisbuck Sexton Network. Our friend Carol Markowitz 603 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 3: will be debuting I think in the next week. Tutor 604 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 3: Dixon Show is already killing it, and we'll have more 605 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 3: great opportunities for you to get unique and original content. 606 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 3: Just go subscribe to that podcast. And also you can 607 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 3: always go download the iHeartRadio app and you can listen 608 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: to this pro pro anywhere in the country coming. 609 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: Up on fall. 610 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 3: Not too long now till the holiday travel season gets underway. 611 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 3: Now that we are into October, it is officially Halloween season, 612 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 3: I think everywhere, certainly in the Travis house, where my 613 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 3: wife has begun to put up all of the Halloween decorations, 614 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 3: which terrify my kids. And even occasionally I'll admit buck 615 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 3: late at night, when I'm walking through the house and 616 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 3: I'm not expecting to see some of the scary Halloween decorations, 617 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 3: I will occasionally jump for a moment because a lot of. 618 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: The Halloween monsters. Which one is your favorite? You know? 619 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: Are you a Dracula guy, a werewolf guy? 620 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 3: I think I like the vampire movies the most probably 621 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 3: of them. 622 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: What about you? What would you go to, you know. 623 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: I mean, for me, the scariest movie of all time is, 624 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: no question, the Exorcist, So that's obviously which they're redoing, right, 625 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 2: The new Exorcist movie is coming out this and like 626 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 2: the next week. 627 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: Isn't it? Is that you seeing this? I didn't know that. 628 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I think it's the fifty year anniversary. Staff 629 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 3: can correct me if I'm wrong. I think it's the 630 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 3: fifty year anniversary of the Exorcist and they are doing 631 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 3: I don't. 632 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: Know if it's a remake or a new sequel. 633 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,479 Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but I'm almost one hundred percent certain 634 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 3: that there's a new Exorcist movie that is coming out 635 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 3: and it's peg to arrive at the fiftieth anniversary of 636 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 3: the original, which is a very very scary movie for 637 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 3: su Yes, I don't. 638 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: I I think you know, there's some there's some interesting 639 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 2: werewolf movies out there. There's that series of movies where 640 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: the vampires are fighting the werewolves Underworld or whatever with 641 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 2: the lady wearing all the leather, you know, with. 642 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: Lots of guns. 643 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: So I don't know anything about this Underworld. Oh it's 644 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 2: a big yeah, Kate Beckhamsale, it was a whole I 645 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 2: like Kate Mecanziel. 646 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: She's very talented. 647 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 2: Yeah that's I am unshot to hear she. Yeah, she's 648 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 2: a vampire and they fight the werewolves, but they love 649 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 2: the they love one of the were wolves. 650 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 651 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy, man, but it did really well. 652 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: It made a whole a whole bunch of these movies, 653 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: not the that's different than the like Mopi vampires. As 654 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 2: my friend my Leitch would say, right like that, what 655 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: was the movie with all the Mopi vampires? And they 656 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 2: also had to wear wolfs like the Taylor Watner and 657 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: uh oh oh, yes, the Twilight Twilightight series, which how 658 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 2: about Greg? 659 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 3: Producer Greg just immediately jumps in Emaillight movies. It's very romantic, 660 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 3: very very touching. I rarely hear him in my ear 661 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: and we're like, what is that? 662 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: Twilight movies? They're great, great films, Twilight films. I haven't 663 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: I haven't seen those ones. But yes, the brooding vampires. 664 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: That werewolves of that series are are quite quite something. 665 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 1: So. 666 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 3: By the way, the Exorcist Believer is being released this week. 667 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 3: It's the first Did you need to know about this 668 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 3: at all? Buck, I didn't know this three new Exorcist 669 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 3: films are being made. The second is going to be 670 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 3: released next in twenty twenty five. So they're making a 671 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 3: trilogy of Exorcist films, and the first one is going 672 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 3: to be out in a couple of days. 673 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 2: I do not recommend people go see because because it 674 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: will be very scary. 675 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: And you don't want to be walking around. 676 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: You know, if you're in like a giant house like Clays, 677 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 2: and you're walking down a dark corridor and you hear 678 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: something weird, you know, man, I freaked out the other day. 679 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 2: I had a tree frog land on my windshield as 680 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: I was driving, and that freaked me out for a second. 681 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: I was like, what is that. I've actually got video 682 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: of this. I should share it. Lit tree frog right 683 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: on the windshield. I to be. 684 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,959 Speaker 3: I sleep walk still at the age of forty four, 685 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 3: and on late Saturday night, buck I in full sprint, 686 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 3: went outside the front door of my house into the street, 687 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 3: convinced that somebody was chasing me at like two am. 688 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: WHOA. 689 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 3: I'm a legit sleepwalker, have been for my entire life. 690 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 3: I don't think it's that common, but I will legitimately 691 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 3: run open doors and run outside, never know what's gonna happen. 692 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: I'll be back with you Tuesday. 693 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 3: Slave Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of 694 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 3: the truth