1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by All Copy Products, proud partner 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at Allcopyproducts dot com. 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: So the fifteen of the ten ber He's Gonna score touchdown. 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cardinals Red Sea Report. 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Slam into the ground by Puda Baker like a torpedo. 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield Connor to the ten, 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: to the five and end of the end zone of 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 2: the touchdown. 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: The Cardinals Red Sea Report is brought to you by 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals dot com slash podcast. 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: Here we go, one handed catch of a touchdown? 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 3: Oh baby, how's that film? 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolou, Paul Calvic and three time pro bowler 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Kyle Vandenbosch. 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 4: So a lot of business to discuss over the next hour. 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 4: But the first order of business, gentlemen, is a question 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 4: and a reminder to the rest of the bird game. 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: Have you paid your taxes? Today is tax Day? 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 5: That's why we're here as an escape to make you 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 5: forget the fact that it is tax Day twenty twenty three. 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 5: That's a great point right off the top, and I 22 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 5: went right to the deadline last night. I finalized him, 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 5: I would do my best work, Kyle under deadline. That's 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 5: the way if you want a gamer in the fourth quarter. 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 5: When it comes to taxes, yours truly, I'm your guy. 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 6: Well, your taxes are complicated, all that money you make, Yeah, 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 6: I mean, I can't imagine the headache you had trying 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 6: to sort all your money and figure out how much 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 6: you owe the government the. 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: Different homes, different states, countries. Do we not have a 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 4: lie detector right now? I mean, you know, of course 32 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 4: Kyle has people that handle his taxes so he doesn't 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 4: have to worry about it. He's got someone who does 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,279 Speaker 4: that for him. I thought you had all the people. 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 5: I'm sure all our elected leaders will do their best 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 5: to spend all our tax dollars wisely for the people 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 5: of the people, by the people, with no personal agendas 38 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 5: involved whatsoever. Here over the rest of the calendar year. 39 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 5: I'm sure that'll happen. Always another light detector, all right? 40 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: On that note, here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 5: presented by seat Geek your ticket to Great Seats. Let's 42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 5: get into the news of the day now. Really we 43 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 5: should be really focused. 44 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: On what is going to happen a week from this Thursday, 45 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 4: and that is the twenty twenty three NFL Draft. However, 46 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 4: on Friday, we got news several reports, Paul, that's Buddha Baker, 47 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 4: face of the defense. Dare I say the face of 48 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 4: the franchise asked for a trade, although ESPN also made 49 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 4: mention that he either wanted a trade or to become 50 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 4: the highest paid safety in the game. And that's sent 51 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 4: shockwaves not only locally but nationally across the NFL. 52 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 5: And therein lies the question, the big question for the 53 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 5: Big Red. Does he want a new deal or does 54 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 5: he want out? I would say the former. We all 55 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 5: know Buddha pretty well. Okay, he's competitive, the most competitive 56 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 5: guy I've been around in this team in quite quite 57 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 5: a few years. And we see it out there on 58 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 5: the field. Doesn't matter what the score is on that scoreboard, 59 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 5: Buddha Baker is there at a ball and right now 60 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 5: he's the seventh highest paid safety in the league at 61 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 5: about what fourteen million year or so. Derwin James right 62 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 5: now is averaging about nineteen million per year. Derwin James 63 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 5: might be the only safety in the game that you 64 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 5: say is better than Buddha Baker, at least for my analysis. 65 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 5: All right, So once again, is it just Buddha Baker 66 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 5: trying to maximize his earning potential in his prime and 67 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 5: age twenty seven, or does it. 68 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 3: Go beyond that. 69 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 5: Is he looking at a potential rebuild and saying he 70 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 5: wants to win right here, right now? Only Buddha knows, 71 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 5: But something tells me if you were to renegotiate his deal, 72 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 5: he would gladly sign on the line that is dotted. 73 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: Once upon a. 74 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: Time, Kyle Buddha was the highest paid safety in the game. 75 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 4: It was after he signed a four year extension in 76 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: twenty twenty. Has two more seasons left on that deal, 77 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 4: although none of the money is guaranteed. 78 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: To Paul's point, is. 79 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: It more about the money or is not liking what 80 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 4: he is seeing so far with this team, whether that's 81 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: the new GM, the new head coach, new defensive Cordner, 82 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: too much new for Buddha Baker, who is at the 83 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: age of twenty seven, is dare I say, closer to 84 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 4: the end than the beginning of his pro career? 85 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, make no mistake, he's still in his prime. 86 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 6: You know, I would guess it's a combination of the 87 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 6: two things. You know, to me, One of the things 88 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 6: that stands out most from last season's end season hard 89 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 6: Knocks was just the passion in Buddha Baker's voice, hearing 90 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 6: how much it hurts him to lose, knowing how much 91 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 6: he invests in this team. You know, to me, if 92 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 6: I'm the Arizona Cardinals, You've got to do whatever it 93 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 6: takes to keep this man in the building. You know 94 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 6: how much respect he has in the locker room. He 95 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 6: is not a leader for this team. He is the 96 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 6: leader for this team, and not always by his words, 97 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 6: even though we see how he speaks up in meetings, 98 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 6: how he speaks up before and after games, how he 99 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 6: is that he is the guy that does everything right 100 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 6: and not just right in the film room, not just 101 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 6: right in the weight room, not just right on the 102 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 6: practice field. And you know, it's it's how he plays 103 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 6: the game, how he plays with the reckless abandon To me, 104 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 6: it's a The way he plays is a bit of 105 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 6: a lost art. The way he flies around the football field. 106 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 6: You just don't see players play like that anymore. And then, 107 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 6: on top of that, in a season that went south 108 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 6: pretty quickly last year, he was fighting through injury. He 109 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 6: played the next week when it was declared he'd be 110 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 6: out for two weeks on an ankle spring he finished 111 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 6: a game with a broken shoulder. I mean, this guy 112 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 6: is the heart and soul of this team. This guy 113 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 6: is a warrior. This guy brings passion, He brings energy 114 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 6: to the entire locker room. And when you are in 115 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 6: a quote unquote rebuild, he's the guy you want in 116 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 6: the locker room to show the new guys, to show 117 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 6: the guys the free agents that are being added to 118 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 6: this team, to show rookies walking into this locker room. 119 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 6: This is what a professional looks like. 120 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 4: Well said, you're talking about a team captain each of 121 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 4: the past three seasons, a five time pro bowler. NFL 122 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 4: Networks Ian Rappaport recently on the Pat McAfee show about 123 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 4: Baker's request that he wants out. 124 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 7: I learned about the trade request over the last several days, 125 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 7: but this has quietly been a reality for Arizona for 126 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 7: much longer. Really wants a new deal, and I do 127 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 7: not believe the Cardinals want to trade him. Like, we 128 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 7: don't plan to trade you. We want to keep you. 129 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 7: And like he is, like he is the heartbeat of 130 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 7: that defense. That's the guy you want to build around 131 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 7: you know, you don't want to use the second round 132 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 7: pick to replace him. You want to build with him. 133 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 7: So we'll see what happens. But I don't believe they 134 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 7: want to trade him at all. 135 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: I wouldn't trade him at all. 136 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 4: I would make sure I would do whatever I can 137 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 4: to make sure that you have a happy bit of 138 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 4: Baker in the locker room and ultimately on that football field. 139 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 4: But let's go back to we talk about how much 140 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 4: things have changed since the end of last season as 141 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 4: far as a new GM head coach, defensive coordinator, and 142 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: players on the roster as well. But we go back 143 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 4: to when Monty austin Ford was introduced back on January seventeenth, 144 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 4: he brought up Buddha Baker. 145 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 8: I was with the Patriots at the time, and Buddha 146 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 8: came in. We interviewed Buddah at the combine for our 147 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 8: twenty minute interview. After the end of that twenty minute interview, 148 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 8: I think I was ready to run through a brick 149 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 8: wall for Buddha Baker, and Buddha Baker represents everything that 150 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 8: we want this organization to be and I am excited 151 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 8: to be on a team with him. 152 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: And then you go back to when defensive coordinator Rawllis 153 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 4: was introduced to the media on February twenty second about Buddha. 154 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 4: Quote sets the standard on how you want. 155 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: To play this game. End quote. 156 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon has also had high praise for the veteran 157 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: safety that is based off what has been said Paul 158 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 4: that is not a player you want out of this 159 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 4: building and not wearing your uniform. 160 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 5: Players, no players, coaches, no players. Think how many times 161 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 5: his colleagues have cited his play the standard. He sets 162 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 5: Bill Davis on hard knocks in the linebackers room saying 163 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 5: if everybody played as hard as Buddha, where would we 164 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 5: be as a team. Some of the miked up segments 165 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 5: NFL films has had over the years of Mike Tomlin pregame. 166 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 5: I remember a couple of years ago talking to Cardinals 167 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 5: coaches and out of nowhere just citing Buddha Baker on film. 168 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 5: So the respect level is immense, it is elite. And 169 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 5: when team Buddha his business folks see Jesse Bates go 170 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 5: from Cincinnati to Atlanta this offseason and gets sixteen million 171 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 5: per year and buddhistlated to make thirteen and then fourteen 172 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 5: next year. Yeah, he's exercising his leverage, and especially after 173 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 5: the season the Cardinals just came off of where he 174 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 5: was the leader, the heartbeat of that team. I can't 175 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 5: get just the audio out of my head. We all 176 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 5: saw it later on Hard Knocks and the locker room 177 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 5: speech after the Philly loss. But as the guy who 178 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 5: does the postgame interviews down the hallway, I could hear 179 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 5: someone yelling, I could hear the passion. I had no 180 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 5: idea who it was at the time, but you realize 181 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 5: just how much that losing hurts a Buddha baker. So 182 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 5: if you're looking at a rebuild year straight ahead, yeah, 183 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 5: I can understand it on both fronts. 184 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: And so we'll see. 185 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 5: But there's no doubt to Kyle's point, he's most definitely part. 186 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 3: Of the solution. 187 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 5: He's not the part of the problem, and so his 188 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 5: value I think is immense in every sense of the 189 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 5: word as you try and chart the course forward. 190 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 4: This is a business though, Colin. We hear it all 191 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 4: the time, and typically you hear this from a player 192 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 4: that is going into the final year of his contract, 193 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 4: not two years before the end of a contract, And 194 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 4: I think that's where you're looking at from the team side, 195 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 4: it's like, do you set the precedence? But there is 196 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 4: a difference between Buddha Baker and maybe fifty two other 197 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: players in that locker room because you're talking about someone 198 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 4: who was revered by the fan base and this is 199 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 4: a team that has for the second straight off season 200 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 4: been on the wrong end of a lot of bad news. 201 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's two different precedents. Like I understand, you don't 202 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 6: want to as an organization, set a precedent of players 203 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 6: coming to you with two years left on their contract 204 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 6: demanding new money, wanting new money, wanting to get paid more, 205 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 6: because that becomes a slippery slope and guys will get 206 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 6: in line right behind Buddha Baker and say I want 207 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 6: new money too. But at the same time, as an organization, 208 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 6: you know, I listened to Monty asen Ford and Jonathan 209 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 6: Gannon talk about what they value and what this culture 210 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 6: is going to look like. As an organization, When you 211 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 6: say these are our values and this is how we're 212 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 6: going to build this organization, and you have probably the 213 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 6: best example of that checks every box of what they're 214 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 6: looking for in your locker room, you also want to 215 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 6: set a precedent. We're going to reward that we value 216 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 6: what you bring. Look, there is players that bring tremendous 217 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 6: value on what they can and do on Sundays. Buddha 218 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 6: Baker is a different type of player. He brings that 219 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 6: value on Sundays, but he brings value to this team 220 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 6: Monday to Saturday as well, and raises the level of 221 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 6: play of every single player in this locker room because 222 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 6: of his example, and because of that example and what 223 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 6: he does, his voice matters and he can demand more 224 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 6: from each and every player in this locker room because 225 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 6: they know how much it means to him and how 226 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 6: much he has put into this team and invested into 227 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 6: this team. 228 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 5: You can't always be the highest paid player in your 229 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 5: position group. In the NFL, the salary cap continues to 230 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 5: go up, guys continue to get paid. Patrick Mahomes right 231 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 5: now is the fifth highest paid quarterback in terms of 232 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 5: average annual value after the Jalen Hurts deal, Jalen Hurts, 233 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers. You have Kyler Murray, Deshaun Watson all higher 234 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 5: paid per year than Patrick Mahomes, who just won another ring. 235 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 5: So that's the reality of it. And if the Cardinals 236 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 5: have to hang on to Buddha Baker despite his wants 237 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 5: and needs. Guess what it can and will happen. They've 238 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 5: already done it with a Patrick Peterson at Chandler Jones, 239 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 5: a Jordan Hicks, who all asked to be traded, And 240 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 5: if it wasn't in favor of the team and didn't 241 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 5: make sense for the organization, they're not gonna pull the trigger. 242 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 5: And I don't see how the Cardinals could possibly get 243 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 5: equal in fair trade compensation for Buddha Baker if they 244 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 5: did deal him. 245 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: You can't. 246 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 4: There's no way you're not gonna get fair market value. 247 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 4: And also had another player, your boy i Andy requested 248 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: a trade, was not grant. He remained on the roster 249 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 4: until he was ultimately released. But yeah, this is this 250 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: is not new. I think the uproar on Friday cole 251 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 4: One was the fact that it was Buddha Baker who 252 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: has always put team first, and all of a sudden 253 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 4: he's looking at himself in the mirraguard, Right, I need 254 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 4: to put myself first, which I get it from a 255 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 4: player's standpoint. Not gonna go against what players want based 256 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 4: off what they do every single day, and then ultimately 257 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 4: on Sundays and then just because you want something doesn't 258 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 4: mean it's going to happen. And I think that's where 259 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 4: fans got a little bit agitated or upset because it was, oh. 260 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 3: He's gone. No, but it's not gone. 261 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 4: He's still here and he very well may be here 262 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 4: for the next two seasons. 263 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 6: Again, you know, knowing or having an idea of the vision, 264 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 6: you know, this probably isn't going to be a quick rebuild. 265 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 6: There may be some struggles this year. But Buddha Baker 266 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 6: is not a front runner. I've played with players that 267 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 6: are front runners that when it goes south, we start 268 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 6: to lose games. They are the worst people in the 269 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 6: locker room. Buddha Baker will help, you know. He's the 270 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 6: kind of guy that will see this team through the 271 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 6: bad times until they come out on the other end. 272 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 6: And so you know, to me, I think, however, this 273 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 6: needs to be accomplished, however it gets done. It just 274 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 6: needs to be communicated because it's tough. Buddha doesn't have 275 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 6: relationships with this coaching staff. He knows very few. There's 276 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 6: very few people that were retained. And I understand he 277 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 6: is a team guy and loyal to the team. Well, 278 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 6: this team looks completely different to him. He walks into 279 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 6: this locker room and there's so many new faces and 280 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 6: really doesn't have relationships with either a lot of the 281 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 6: players or the coaching staff, so a lot of it's 282 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 6: new to him. But they need to understand. They need to, 283 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 6: you know, get it through to him how important he 284 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 6: is and what it means to have him in the 285 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 6: locker room and through this and share their vision. You know, 286 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 6: it's always so separate from front office to coaching staff 287 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 6: to players, but share the vision, say we're not as 288 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 6: far away. Here's what we're planning, here's how we are 289 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 6: going to win games next year, and here's how we 290 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 6: need you to be a part of it. And hopefully 291 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 6: that will do some of it. And I realized that's 292 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 6: probably not what he is looking for. But you know, 293 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 6: to me, and I don't know, I'm not wired like Buddha, 294 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 6: I don't know who else is. But the number one 295 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 6: thing is that wanted to feel valued. And sometimes that's 296 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 6: not always about how much money is in my bank 297 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 6: account or how big my check is. It is, you know, 298 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 6: be involved in the process, have some input on some 299 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 6: you know, not necessarily personnel, but how things are done, 300 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 6: and have a good relationship with this coaching staff in 301 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 6: front office, because then you're invested as a player, then 302 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 6: you have ownership in what's happening. 303 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 4: No question, the value in that locker room is known. 304 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 4: What we don't know with this new defense head coach, 305 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 4: defensive coordinator, how much do they value the safety position 306 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 4: and the role of a Buddha Baker on the field. 307 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 5: And if your Buddha and you have to learn a 308 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 5: new system anyway, then you know what the timing might 309 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 5: be right in asking for that trade if you're gonna 310 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 5: have to go to a new team in a new system. 311 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 5: Worst case scenario as he pulls Adrwin James, because remember 312 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 5: Buddha Baker and Durwin James, same agency, same representation, And 313 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 5: we know what Durwin James did last year. 314 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: He held out or had to hold. 315 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 5: In for the first three weeks of Chargers camp until 316 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 5: he got a record breaking deal. 317 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 4: Check out to Day Pash podcast being a preferred podcast provider. 318 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 4: Get the latest updates via Twitter at hash pod. As 319 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 4: we continue here on the Cardinals reds, he reports the drafts. Yes, 320 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 4: one week from Thursday, Cardinals on the clock at number three. 321 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 4: But what happens if Will Anderson is not available? With 322 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 4: that third overall pick. This is the Arizona Cardinals radio network. 323 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: Everybody talks about Will Anderson. 324 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 4: Gives a challenging but it's about the effort that he 325 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: gives turns into a supernova. 326 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 9: Wow, Will Anderson doing damage Anderson? 327 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: God damn. 328 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 9: It was a simple full racing Will Anderson with the 329 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 9: sack bro Alabama. 330 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: All we talked about do you double him? 331 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 5: Do you ship in? 332 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: Well, sure, seck is. 333 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 5: One thing you can't do is just leave him. 334 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: One on one. 335 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 9: Sworn under by Will Anderson, the best pass rusher we've 336 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 9: seen in college football in a long time. Quarterback, We'll 337 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 9: keep it and gets taken down. Will Anderson Junior flying away. 338 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 10: But it's intercepting for this is Will Anderson Junior touchdown. 339 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 4: The more you watch, the more you read about Will Anderson, 340 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 4: the more you like the player and the person. Also, 341 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 4: the more time that passes since the end of the 342 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 4: college football season ahead of next Thursday's NFL Draft, the 343 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 4: more noise you hear not about Will Anderson but Tyree Wilson. 344 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 4: The Houston Texans with that second overall pick. Dare I 345 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 4: say they select Will Anderson and the Cardinals don't have 346 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 4: Anderson available to go with that third overall pick. 347 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 3: Welcome back. 348 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 4: It is the Cardinals Reddit Seat Report presented by seat 349 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 4: Kick your Ticket to Great Seats. As we shift our 350 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 4: focus to what happens in nine days from now, Paul, 351 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 4: and every scenario has been discussed, I'm gonna bring up 352 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 4: a new one, and that is the potential of Will 353 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 4: Anderson not being there, plus the Cardinals not being able 354 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 4: to trade down from number three, which has been a 355 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 4: foregone conclusion if Anderson was not available. But in order 356 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 4: to make a trade, you need to have a trade 357 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 4: partner and someone willing. 358 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 3: To move up. See to me, if c J. 359 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 5: Stroud is still on the board at three, there will 360 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 5: be a trade. There will be a trade down for 361 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 5: the Arizona Cardinals. They will be able to. 362 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 3: Cash it in. 363 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 5: But I'll play your reindeer games over there. Agree, And 364 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 5: let's just say that Will Anderson goes number two to Houston, 365 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 5: which is exactly what Michael Lombardi, former NFL GM said 366 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 5: to Pat McAfee yesterday that he does not believe Houston 367 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 5: will take c J. Stroud after Bryce Young goes number 368 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 5: one to Carolina. And by the way, Bryce Young has 369 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 5: ended all other visits so most people think he is 370 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 5: indeed going number one to the Panthers. In fact, Lombardi said, quote, 371 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 5: I think teams are now starting to accept that Stroud 372 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 5: is not going number two, and I think more work 373 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 5: is being done. Really Okay, If so, Houston has done 374 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 5: a heck of a job of getting that narrative out there, 375 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 5: I don't buy it. I don't believe it there. I 376 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 5: think they desperately need a quarterback in CJ. Stroud as 377 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 5: their guy. But if they take a Will Anderson and 378 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 5: the Cardinals are sitting there at three and nobody else 379 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 5: is willing to come up for a CJ. Stroud, then 380 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 5: what that's a great question. I would presume they go Corner. 381 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 5: That's just me, Tyree Wilson. Yeah, maybe that would be 382 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 5: out of need, and I think need first and foremost. 383 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 5: But you're talking about a draft last year where Corners 384 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 5: went three and four, Derek Stingley junior and then Sauce Gardner, 385 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 5: who was phenomenal for the Jets. And by the way, 386 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 5: Houston overthought it and overanalyzed it last year and picked 387 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 5: the wrong corner at number three when sauce Gardner was 388 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 5: on the board. So they're fully capable of screwing it 389 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 5: up again this year, There's no doubt, but I would 390 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 5: think the Cardinals would go Corner, either Christian Gonzales or 391 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 5: Devin Witherspoon. 392 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 4: There's another name on that board, and that is what 393 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 4: was presumed to be the number one overall pick several 394 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 4: months ago before some off the field issues popped up, 395 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 4: and that is Jalen Carter, who, according to reports Kyle 396 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 4: has visited with every single team from pick six to ten, 397 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 4: and we know his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, has said that 398 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 4: Carter will not visit with any team outside the top ten. 399 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 4: Cardinals have not been mentioned on that list that have 400 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 4: had a visit with Jalen Carter. But again, this scenario, 401 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 4: if you're the Cardinals at number three, you have to 402 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 4: prepare for everything, and I mean everything, and we don't 403 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 4: know what they think or feel about Jalen Carter. 404 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's where the you know, the front office scouting 405 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 6: department really needs to do their homework. Are the issues 406 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 6: that popped up with Jalen Carter? Are they one off? 407 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 6: Is it something that's in his rear view mirror? Can 408 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 6: you depend on him? What type of guy is he? 409 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 6: In the meeting rooms on the practice field, was he 410 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 6: you know, good in the classroom. You know, you've really 411 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 6: got to leave no stone unturned because look, he is 412 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 6: an elite talent. I mean, he is a disruptive force. 413 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 6: You know, he can change the course of a game 414 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 6: playing at the defensive tackle position, and there is a 415 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 6: big premium on players that can do that. Saying that, 416 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 6: you know, it's tough because again, listening to the vision 417 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 6: of Mantiasen for this team, listening to the vision of 418 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 6: Jonathan Gannon for this team, you know, they constantly come 419 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 6: back to character and in football character, and you need 420 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 6: to decide whether he's gonna fit into that mold or not. 421 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 6: You know, if Will Anderson is not there at three, 422 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 6: Cardinals are forced to pick. You know, it's tough. I 423 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 6: realize that. You know, corners are a premium and this 424 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 6: team has been in flux for a few years trying 425 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 6: to find some stability at the cornerback position and find 426 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 6: that guy that can be that elite shutdown corner. But 427 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 6: saying that, looking at what Jonathan Gannon had to work 428 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 6: with last year, looking at the team he was on 429 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 6: last year, you know, look, a lot of tension to 430 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts had phenomenal year. The receiving corps phenomenal. That 431 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 6: team was elite because they had the best offensive line 432 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 6: in football and they had the most disruptive defensive line 433 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 6: of football. And I expect this team to be built 434 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 6: inside out. And with we currently sit with what eight 435 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 6: draft picks, I expect anywhere from four to five of 436 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 6: those picks to be defensive lineman or interior offensive lineman. 437 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 6: Because you know, at least the perception that I have 438 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 6: is this, this isn't going to be a quick fix. 439 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 6: But the way you build it properly is not to 440 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 6: make flashy draft picks, not to you know, flood skill positions. 441 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 6: You've sometimes got to make the unattractive picks, that the 442 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 6: ones that the fans aren't going to buy jerseys for, 443 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 6: and stabilize your trenches. Build from the inside out, because 444 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 6: you know, if we have an elite shut down corner, 445 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 6: but quarterbacks have four or five seconds to hold the 446 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 6: ball and sit back there and padd it, it don't 447 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 6: matter who's back there, We're not gonna We're not gonna 448 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 6: win games because of our defense. It's gonna be a liability. 449 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 6: We've got to find players, and there may be a 450 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 6: couple on this roster that emerge. But just looking at 451 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 6: the guys we have now on the defensive front, and 452 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 6: their career sack numbers are not great. They are not 453 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 6: difference maker on third difference makers on third down or 454 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 6: getting to the quarterback or or affecting games. And we've 455 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 6: got to find those guys. So even if it is 456 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 6: a reach, we may take the next best edge player, 457 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 6: we may take the next best inside player, because I 458 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 6: think that's how they envisioned building this team, not necessarily 459 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 6: taking the best athlete that's available at number three, because 460 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 6: that's what that's what you know, the combine shows, that's 461 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 6: what tape shows. 462 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: You know. 463 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 6: I think we've got to build it the right way, 464 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 6: and I think that comes up front. 465 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 4: The newest mock draft, in fact, the first one that 466 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: he's released NFL Networks, Peter Schrager. His mock draft one 467 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: point zero does have the Cardinals selecting Will Anderson, but 468 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 4: the Texans making a trade with the Colts as the 469 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 4: Colts move up to two to take CJ. Stroud and 470 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 4: the Texans at number four go with Tyree Wilson. Now, again, 471 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 4: is Wilson going to be better than Will Anderson. The 472 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 4: numbers based off their college production wouldn't suggest it, but 473 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 4: there are people. There's a lot of noise. 474 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: Again. 475 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 4: Peter King has written about it in his Football Morning 476 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 4: in America that many people believe that Wilson will hear 477 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 4: his name either called before Will Anderson or will have 478 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 4: a better career than a Will Anderson. This all goes 479 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 4: back to what Houston does at number two. Perhaps the 480 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 4: draft does begin with that second overall pick. ESPN's Adam 481 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 4: Schefter on NFL Live, dare I say the Texans do 482 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 4: pass on a QB? 483 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 11: What if the run on quarterbacks gets a little bit delayed. 484 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 11: What if it's a little bit later to start than 485 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 11: people thought. We've been hearing about quarterbacks going one, two, three, four. 486 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen. 487 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 11: I don't believe. And we've seen we want to make 488 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 11: them move up right away, right away for a quarterback 489 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 11: at one, but we haven't seen anybody trade up to 490 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 11: two when Houston's open to listening. We haven't seen anybody 491 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 11: trade up to number three. Because you know what, I think, 492 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 11: Indianapolis thinks there's a real chance right now that they 493 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 11: could sit right where they are for and get potentially 494 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 11: the second quarterback in this draft. 495 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 4: With that said, though, Paul, I do like where the 496 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 4: Cardinals are at number three, and I have no problem. Yes, 497 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: there's only been that one trade of the Panthers moving 498 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 4: up with the Bears that if you're the Cardinals, you 499 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 4: wait until you know what happens ahead of you. Yeah, 500 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 4: there's only two picks, but you wait and then keep 501 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 4: those phones open for those ten minutes that you have before. 502 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 5: You have to get that pick in, you know, speaking 503 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 5: to the pick. Will Anderson was on Good Morning Football 504 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 5: Today NFL Network, and they asked him about the narrative 505 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 5: out there that he's the safe pick that if you 506 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 5: want the upside as an edge rusher in this draft, 507 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 5: you go Tyree Wilson, or if you want the game wrecker, 508 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 5: the elite talent, you go with Jalen Carter. And his 509 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 5: response wasn't I quote Will Anderson is not a safe pick. 510 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 5: It's the right pick. That's Will Anderson. And I'll see 511 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 5: your mock draft inside. Another one that came out today, 512 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 5: this is a Kuiper and Todd McShay combo where they 513 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 5: alternate picks one two one two and they have Bryce 514 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 5: Young going number one c. J. Stroud number two to Houston, 515 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 5: Will Anderson number three, then the Colts taking Anthony Richardson 516 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 5: number four, which is another popular line of thinking that 517 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 5: Shane Stike and what he did with Jalen Hurtz could 518 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 5: do something similar with an elite dual threat talent like 519 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: Anthony Richardson. So there's that out there, and then Will 520 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 5: Levis would go number eleven to Tennessee. In this Kuiper 521 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 5: mcshah latest one that Will Levis would fall in Tennessee 522 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 5: wouldn't have to trade up either way. I think the 523 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 5: Cardinals will either end up with Will Anderson or a trade. 524 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 5: I do not, because I think the need and want 525 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 5: for a quarterback is dire enough among enough teams, there 526 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 5: will be a QB on the board and number three 527 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 5: some team will want or Will Anderson will be there 528 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 5: for the take. 529 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 4: See this is the fun parts of the lead up 530 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 4: to the NFL Draft. It's also the frustrating parts and 531 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 4: where you just want it to happen. I think we've 532 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 4: all I think we've now exhausted every single potential Kyle 533 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 4: for what might happen with the third overall pick. I 534 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 4: don't I can't foresee anything else happening. But this is why, 535 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 4: and this is why the NFL does a great job 536 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 4: because it now becomes a year long discussion point because 537 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 4: the season ended middle of February and here we are 538 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 4: talking about an event that happens mid late April. 539 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, look, we're all kind of just 540 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 6: ready for it to happen, and you know, we have 541 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 6: no idea. Look, I mean, everybody's just throwing out these 542 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 6: crazy ideas that they think may happen. Rest assured. You know, 543 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 6: I've heard people like, what are they going to do 544 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 6: if they're at three and Will Anderson isn't there? And 545 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 6: then they have to hurry up and field phone calls, 546 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 6: front offices and scoutings. They do mock draft after mock 547 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 6: draft they make they'll assign somebody to a team and 548 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 6: they'll make a pick, and then you'll make a pick. 549 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 6: And then you're like, okay, for so now we know 550 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 6: we have this scenario, what are we gonna do? And 551 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 6: so they have it all laid out, they know exactly 552 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 6: what they're gonna do. They've probably already had several preliminary 553 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 6: conversations about if this is the scenario that we're staring at, 554 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 6: you know, would you be willing to trade with us. 555 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 6: So there's parameters already set up so that in you know, 556 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 6: that short window of time that you have to make 557 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 6: your pick, you're not scrambling and not able to get 558 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 6: it done. You know, case in point last year with 559 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 6: Hollywood Brown, there was a scenario that if things happened 560 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 6: a certain way, the trade would go through. And so 561 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 6: you know, you can expect that these conversations have happened. 562 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 6: There is multiple options, and they're not gonna be stuck 563 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 6: at three twiddling their thumbs and staring at each other 564 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 6: trying to figure out what to do. They know exactly 565 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 6: where they're gonna go with this pick in every possible scenario, 566 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 6: even probably crazier scenarios than other people have thrown out. 567 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean, I just can't wait for it 568 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 6: to be over with and we know what we have 569 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 6: going forward, and I'm anticipating. I mean, it seems like 570 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 6: we've been waiting for it. Seems like the season has 571 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 6: been over for a year. It's only been a couple months, 572 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 6: but it's ready. I mean, I'm I loved, you know, 573 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 6: I took pride in being a part of rebuilds, and 574 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 6: I'm excited to see how this unfolds because I fully 575 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 6: believe we have the right people in place. Now, it's 576 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 6: just time to put that plan into action. 577 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 5: In any sport, the rebuild is so much more rewarding 578 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 5: than just jumping a bandwagon. Right Look what an Adrian 579 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 5: Wilson did when he resigned with the Cardinals and easily 580 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 5: could have gone elsewhere, And then when the Cardinals made 581 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl run three years later two thousand and eight, 582 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 5: just think how gratifying that was because you were part 583 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 5: of the foundation. You were part of that rebuild. And 584 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 5: I'll just say, look, Cardinals have eight picks right now. 585 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 5: I fully expect them to have nine to ten, eleven 586 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 5: or twelve by the time the draft is done, whether 587 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 5: they the trigger at number three, whether they trade a 588 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 5: d hot before before my hot take, they traded in 589 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 5: Isaiah Simmons, I think they end up with more picks, 590 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 5: and you're gonna see a lot of impact players come 591 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 5: out of this draft. 592 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 4: And hopefully we see those players next season. On the 593 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three home schedule. For more information at Azycardinals 594 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 4: dot com slash tickets. This is the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 595 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: Driscoll Off the faith on the roll down the side, 596 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: it's a jersey. 597 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: It's a touchdown to sixty lead. 598 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: For Driscoll's just giving his guy a shot. 599 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 9: For Driscoll sensing the pressure, tell me his receiver to 600 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 9: go along, and he's gonna try it on a deep 601 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 9: shot touchdown. Kitty checks Driscoll, what's it fine? 602 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 4: Twenty nine years old, soon to be thirty next week. 603 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 4: Jeff Triscoll the latest Arizona Cardinals acquisition this offseason, signing 604 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 4: a one year contract and becomes the fourth quarterback in 605 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 4: that room. As were walking back into the Cardinals Red 606 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 4: Seat Report presented by seat Geek your ticket to grade seats. 607 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 4: Not a surprise that the Cardinals added a fourth quarterback, 608 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 4: perhaps maybe Paul the surprise because we had touched on 609 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 4: this in past shows that maybe waits until the draft there, 610 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 4: I say Day three or post draft with an undrafted 611 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 4: free agent. But you're looking now, maybe they add even 612 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 4: another quarterback because of the uncertainty around Kyler Muran. 613 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 3: We still not. 614 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 4: Quite sure about McCoy and his availability this Offsealy. I'm 615 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 4: not talking regular season, I'm talking about availability in the 616 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 4: offseason for some quarterback to throw the ball and hand 617 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 4: the ball off. Look, you have four quarterbacks under contract. 618 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 4: How many will be available for the mandatory mini camp 619 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 4: in mid June. How many will be available and able 620 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 4: to begin training camp. We're not exactly sure. As for 621 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 4: Cole McCoy. 622 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 5: You're definitely not counting on Kyler Murray at that stage, 623 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 5: not yet. And you go into every training camp with 624 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 5: at least four arms. You need those camp arms. So 625 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 5: Driscoll is here. It does not preclude the team from 626 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 5: on Day three taking a rookie quarterback. I fully expect 627 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 5: that to be a very distinct possibility. I think they're 628 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 5: scouring the draft right now for someone who might fall 629 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 5: into Day three who's a dual threat type quarterback who 630 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 5: they could at least stash on the practice squad going forward. 631 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 5: But at least you have a guy you're familiar with. 632 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 5: Dave Sears as a pass with Jeff Driscoll back in Detroit. 633 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 5: He has seven years in the league. He's got a 634 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 5: big arm, he's a big dude at six four, two 635 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 5: thirty five. You know, he's been with five different teams. 636 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 5: He's started ten or eleven games in this in this league. 637 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 5: His career record is one to nine. Of course, he's 638 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 5: been with Houston and Detroit when they're at their worst. 639 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 5: So all right, there you go. But at least a 640 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 5: capable guy who can come in and get you through camp. 641 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 4: On'mer, seventh round pick of the forty nine ers started 642 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 4: two games last season talking about Jeff Driscoll. But again 643 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 4: it goes back to you want to make sure you 644 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 4: have someone. Obviously Kyler Murray is QB one, but the 645 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 4: question remains QB two and whether that QB two is 646 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 4: your starter week one, week two, week three. How long 647 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 4: do you need a QB two waiting for Kyler Murray 648 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 4: to get back? 649 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's the big thing. Look, Jeff Driscoll, 650 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 6: to Paula's point, eleven starts. He's got starting experience. I 651 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 6: don't think you want somebody, you know, even if they 652 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 6: draft a rookie in the later rounds, he comes in 653 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 6: as a phenomenal training camp. You know, you don't want 654 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 6: somebody wide eyed in the game opener getting their first 655 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 6: start without any on the field experience in the NFL. 656 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 6: So you've got a guy with playing experience. He's been 657 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 6: around a few clubs, so he's got knowledge of the game. 658 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 6: He know understands defenses. And to me, again going back 659 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 6: to a lot of the things that Jonathan Gannon has 660 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 6: talked about, is they want a culture of competition. And 661 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 6: you know, while it may appear that you know, we're 662 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 6: bringing in guys just as camp arms, you want that 663 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 6: healthy competition. You want guys fighting for every single spot. 664 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 6: And while you know this is potentially a starting position 665 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 6: for the beginning of the season, these quarterbacks potentially are 666 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 6: all auditioning to stay with this team and be the 667 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 6: backup quarterback next year. So you know, I think it's 668 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 6: a good signing. And I think the more competition that 669 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 6: we get, particularly without familiarity with this coaching staff with 670 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 6: what type of offense they're going to run, you know, 671 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 6: you want as much competition and see who rises to 672 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 6: the top through these summer mini camps, through OTAs and 673 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 6: through training camp, so that you make sure that you 674 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 6: get the best players on the field. And at you 675 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 6: know this typically you know, backup quarterback is it's an 676 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 6: important signing. I mean, look at free agency, most of 677 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 6: the initial moves by teams were signings of backup quarterbacks, 678 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 6: but this one's extra important with the potential of starting, 679 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 6: you know, anywhere from a couple to a handful of 680 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 6: games at the beginning of the season that will set 681 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 6: the tone for this team for the rest of the season. 682 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 4: You brought up Jonathan Gannon. Let's go back to the 683 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 4: annual league meeting at the Biltmore. Gannon, addressing reporters, asked 684 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 4: about Colt McCoy and the backup quarterback position. 685 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 12: Colt, I think he's he's doing great. I mean, he's 686 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 12: gets a little extra work here and there, but he's 687 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 12: ready to go and happy where Kyler's at. David as well, 688 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 12: So I like where that room's at and where they're going. 689 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 3: Is that going to be a competition between Colt and David. 690 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 12: Everything is a competition. 691 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 4: Those four war words. Just let them hang just a 692 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 4: little bit. Everything is a competition. And that doesn't preclude 693 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 4: the quarterback position. That is every position. That to your point, Kyle, 694 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 4: I think that's what Gannon wants to make sure May 695 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 4: gets known in that locker room that no position is secure. 696 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 5: I mean, you want everything to be a competition right now, 697 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 5: even in the off season. I'm not just talking about 698 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 5: the roster. When the Cardinals get on the field. You 699 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 5: want a competition right now for the number three pick, 700 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 5: overall among the other thirty teams in the league. You 701 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 5: want a competition for d Hop in the open trade marketplace, Yes, 702 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 5: you do want everything ideally to be a competition, but 703 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 5: there's something else you want when it comes to quarterbacks. 704 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 5: And how often has Drew Stand on this very show 705 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 5: talked about that chemistry in the quarterback room, and you're 706 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 5: not as apt to bring in an unknown into that 707 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 5: quarterback room when you have a two hundred million dollar 708 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 5: plus quarterback in Kyler Murray. You got to make sure 709 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 5: the atmosphere in the vibe is just right. So it's 710 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 5: not a surprise that a they brought back or they're 711 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 5: retaining Cole McCoy's still under contract for this coming season. 712 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 5: They brought back David Blow, they had experienced with him, 713 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 5: they know the sort of player and person he is. 714 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 5: And then at Jeff Driscoll, who once again as years 715 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 5: spent with Dave Sears at least, and that familiarity. So 716 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 5: you want to make sure that the formula is right 717 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 5: in the quarterback room, that everyone is there to support 718 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 5: a Kyler Murray. And so I think that's why this 719 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 5: was very strategic in who you signed in a Jeff Driscoll. 720 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 5: I'll add to those connections in that quarterback room. David 721 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 5: Blow and Jeff Driscoll were teammates in twenty nineteen night 722 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 5: that season they combined to start eight games for the 723 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 5: Detroit Lions. And yeah, you want it's a good point, Paul, 724 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 5: because you want to make sure not that Kyler Murray 725 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 5: would ever have to look over his shoulder at someone 726 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 5: coming up from behind, but you want to be sure 727 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 5: that those players Kyle in that room are helping Kyler 728 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 5: Murray are fostering his growth and making sure that they 729 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 5: are doing everything in his power their power to make 730 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 5: sure what he is back, he's ready to go. Or 731 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 5: what if he brought in a Jacoby Brissett, right, who 732 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 5: has the history of Drew Petsing. But Jacoby Brissett, you 733 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 5: know how it works in the preseason. Oh, he lights 734 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 5: it on fire against Vanilla defenses, right, and all of 735 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 5: a sudden, the fans are clamoring for Jacoby Brissett because 736 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 5: he's the answer this year. You can't risk that sort 737 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 5: of dynamic or potential to happen when a Kyler Murray 738 00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 5: is going to be coming back and it might be 739 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 5: a slower turn from injury. 740 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, into your earlier point. Look, one of the things 741 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 6: we saw from Colt McCoy is he was he has 742 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 6: the ability to win you games when you need it, 743 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 6: which is ultra important early in this season. But he 744 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 6: was the first person Kyler Murray would go to when 745 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 6: he came off the field. He is an extra ear 746 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 6: in the meeting rooms and in the locker room. He 747 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 6: acts not only as a backup quarterback, but as a 748 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 6: part time OC, as a part time head coach. I mean, 749 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 6: there's tremendous value. So you've got to look not only 750 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 6: who can get us to those first few games, but 751 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 6: who will continue to help Kyler in his development, particularly 752 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 6: learning a new offense. 753 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,439 Speaker 3: Again four quarterbacks? 754 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 4: Is there a fifth potentially added this soft season? Stay 755 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 4: tuned as we all await answers. It is the Cardinals 756 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 4: Red Sea Report presented by Seat Keep your Ticket to 757 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 4: Great Seats. This is the Arizona Cardinals Right do. 758 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 13: Network don't straight drop back throws over the middle and 759 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 13: a one handed intercepted by Youaiah Simmons a midfield runs it. 760 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 10: Back to the left of the Morning Panda learning pad, 761 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 10: the twenty five pen, the twenty ten Simmons in the 762 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 10: backs of Cup ten orcep differ parents, We're touchdown by 763 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 10: the Cardinals at the. 764 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: End of the half. 765 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 13: Oh my goodness, want to play Isaiah Simmons just standing 766 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 13: there in his. 767 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 3: Own room on the middle of the field. 768 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 13: There's that sub four four of Isaiah Simmons touchdown? 769 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 6: Baby? 770 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 4: Now is that for what we see? Linebacker Isaiah Simmons, 771 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 4: cornerback Isaiah Simmons, Safety Isaiah Simmons a year ago, seventeen 772 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 4: games played, started, thirteen finished with ninety nine tackles, five 773 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 4: tackles for loss. He can play anywhere and everywhere on 774 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 4: that football field, Kyle. But the question is with this 775 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 4: new defense and new defensive coordinator, But are they envisioned 776 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 4: an Isaiah Simmons who is in during his fourth year 777 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 4: with a fifth year option. Dare I say, still yet 778 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 4: to be picked up? And that is that deadline is 779 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 4: approaching rather quickly. 780 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's that's the challenge 781 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 6: of this coaching staff is to find the right spot 782 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 6: for him and get him in that spot. Look, he 783 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 6: is a unique talent. His ability to close on offensive players, 784 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 6: his ability to make big hits. We've all seen his 785 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 6: ability to make game changing plays. I mean, it seems 786 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 6: like he has a knack for it, you know, and 787 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 6: he will stand out and be player of the game 788 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 6: one week, and then the next week he disappears. And 789 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,959 Speaker 6: I think, you know, a lot of us harken back 790 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 6: to Hassan Reddick, where it seems like we were playing 791 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 6: maybe maybe playing him out of position, maybe not getting 792 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 6: the most out of him. You know. I think in 793 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 6: real short order, this coaching staff needs to identify where 794 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 6: he is most valuable, where he is in the best 795 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 6: position to make plays and help this defense and get 796 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 6: there and make him focus on just that one spot 797 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 6: and just let him go, because one thing he does 798 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 6: do well is play with instincts. When you put too 799 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 6: much on his plate and make him think about twenty 800 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 6: different things and having to adjust to different formations, coverages 801 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 6: and play safety. One snapplay corner of the next snapplay 802 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 6: outside linebacker and then hey, let's have you rush the 803 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 6: passer on this next play. I think it's too much. 804 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 6: I'm not saying it's you know, as a fault of his, 805 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 6: It's too much for any player. Like you know, my 806 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 6: success in the NFL came when everything was simplified and 807 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 6: I just had one or two tasks on every play 808 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 6: and I could just go. And I think he's that 809 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 6: same type of player where he's got that dog in him. 810 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 6: He loves the contact, he loves to be in the mix. 811 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 6: But you've just got to put him in a position 812 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 6: where he's not thinking and he's out there just reacting. 813 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,720 Speaker 5: So they're trying to decide on his fifthier option, whether 814 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 5: to pick it up or not. And I think everyone 815 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 5: is trying to decide along with that. 816 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 3: Who are you? What are you? 817 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 5: What position do you play? Where are you best suited? 818 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 3: In the NFL. 819 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 5: Hassan Redick had a position. He was an edge rusher. 820 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 5: He's phenomenal in All American in college, and then they 821 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 5: tried him an inside linebacker. Had all the athleticism in 822 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 5: the world, but it didn't translate because he was always 823 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 5: a step slow. He didn't have those instincts and inside linebackers, 824 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 5: so they returned him to the position he was familiar with. 825 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 5: While in college, Isaiah Simmons played as many different positions 826 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 5: as he's been playing in the NFL, and there's still 827 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 5: no definitive answer. 828 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 6: What is he? 829 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 5: How do you best utilize him? I've thrown in a 830 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 5: Kyle a number of times? Could you make him an 831 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 5: edge rusher? And there's a lot of different opinion on that. 832 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 5: Some people say he's not stout enough to hold the edge, 833 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 5: he's not heavy enough. Teams would run right out of me. 834 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 5: He'd be such a liability in the run game. Could 835 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 5: he really, on a consistent basis beat an offensive tackle? 836 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 5: So where do you use him? 837 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 11: What? 838 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,760 Speaker 5: And if they haven't decided yet, is that your answer? 839 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 5: Are they going to part ways with Isaiah Simmons? I 840 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 5: don't expect it, but I don't think it would be 841 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 5: a shocker either if they don't pick it up. 842 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 4: Do we get maybe an answer next week? You get 843 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 4: the voluntary veteran mini camp because Jonathan Gannon is a 844 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 4: first year head coach, you get that extra week. It 845 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 4: is the week of the draft. It is before May first, 846 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 4: when that deadline to exercise or not exercise that fifty 847 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 4: year option. Do they get an answer on what Simmons 848 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 4: might best be able to do in April and project 849 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 4: to September? 850 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 6: Well, I think again, with where this team is, I 851 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 6: think part of your answer comes in you know, what 852 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 6: is he like in the locker room? Is he going 853 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 6: to fit into this culture we're building. Is he going 854 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 6: to be a part of the answer moving forward or 855 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 6: is he going to be part of the problem? And 856 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 6: you know, to me again, it seems to be such 857 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 6: an emphasis and I love it of you know, we're 858 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 6: a team. We need people to buy in. We want 859 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 6: people excited to walk into this building for practice and 860 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 6: love being an Arizona Cardinals. So I think you need 861 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 6: to understand that as well, not just how fast can 862 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 6: you get from point A to point B? How many 863 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 6: interceptions can he make? How many tackles can he make? 864 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 6: Is he's somebody that's going to grab a rookie and 865 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 6: spend time with him after practice because that's what's going 866 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 6: to make the team better. Is he somebody that's going 867 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 6: to spend extra time in the film room in week 868 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 6: fifteen even though you're exhausted, because he is a true pro. 869 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 6: I think all these things are a part of the 870 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 6: equation of is this somebody that we want to keep 871 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 6: around and build around? And I mean athletically, there's no 872 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 6: question ability, there's no question I think some of the 873 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 6: other things are something that they need to figure out. 874 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 5: And if you pick up his fifth year option, guess 875 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 5: what that's going to cost you twelve point seven million. 876 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 5: There's a lot of cash. And if you haven't picked 877 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 5: it up yet, are you signaling to the rest of 878 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 5: the NFL make us an offer between now and the draft. 879 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,479 Speaker 5: By the way Berg Gang, our next show a week 880 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 5: from today, we will know definitively what DJ Humphreys picked 881 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 5: up in the Sonoran Desert and what is in that briefcase. 882 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 5: Oh interesting, Extreme Makeover dot dot dot special. 883 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 4: Thanks behind this means our executive producer, Jim I'm one Hunter, 884 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 4: Technical director Lauren Cooble for kyb Anabash, Paul Calvicy, I'm 885 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 4: Craig Rialou. 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