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Speaker 2: So the first question we kind of get off. I

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Speaker 2: but I just like asking it from the first rip, man.

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Speaker 2: No question A lot of people asked for this question

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Speaker 2: is who was the first person like when you got

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Speaker 2: to the league and you actually was playing bust your ass,

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Speaker 2: like you feel like, oh, he gave me them numbers.

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Speaker 2: First person you remember like you went home after the game.

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Speaker 1: Like, especially you being a defensive I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: I want so you race them out your mind after

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Speaker 2: you not even.

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Speaker 3: The race, but I just feel like, you know, maybe

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Speaker 3: they scored, but it was tough.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I made it. I made

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Speaker 1: it tough. I don't remember something me come home like,

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Speaker 1: dam you just bust my ass. I don't remember that.

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Speaker 3: But it's been games when people got the best of me,

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Speaker 3: but not that ain't busting my ass.

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Speaker 1: So that's the first time answer, Yeah, my bad. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be you know, no, no, that's all.

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Speaker 3: But don't you know I for got scored thirty forty

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Speaker 3: on me, probably took you know, thirty thirty twenty eight shots.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I just try to you know, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Think that's how I defended. You supposed to think

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Speaker 1: What's my ass?

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Speaker 3: I gotta play them again, man, that mindset. That's the

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Speaker 3: better person to bust my ass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you can. You can have forty, but at the

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Speaker 2: end of the game, you blocking shadow still is.

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Speaker 1: Run at the end, he won that one.

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Speaker 2: That one one.

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Speaker 1: I look at it.

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Speaker 2: That's how I look at it, exactly right about that.

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Speaker 2: That's how I look at it too. I want out.

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Speaker 1: Q Rich, D Miles. We the knuckleheads chilling with us today.

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Speaker 4: We got my main man, Chicago representative pe Bamin and

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Speaker 4: building associate you coming through. Check it out. This is

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Speaker 4: q Rich and D Miles and knuckleheads.

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Speaker 2: We coach a push us.

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Speaker 1: That's when I knew.

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is.

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Speaker 4: Fact finder right here. This is a story that people

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Speaker 4: don't know.

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Speaker 2: Can't call me soft and you can't disrespect where I'm from.

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Speaker 2: I did deal with a lot of losers and that ship.

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Speaker 1: I got your crack. We come from an authentic old

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Speaker 1: jeek standpoint.

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Speaker 2: But it's always good vibe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what a y'all doing here?

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Speaker 4: I thought I was just coming over to watch the game,

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Speaker 4: and you guys got microphone set up in the backyard,

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Speaker 1: I liked it. I liked that.

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Speaker 2: You went to Marshall. My high school used to play

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Speaker 2: against Marshall every year, Red West East Saint Louis play

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Speaker 2: So did y'all still do that? So y'all traveled to

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Speaker 3: But what you know, it's crazy And I never told

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Speaker 3: We wanted to want to Saint Louis. And he was

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Speaker 2: I always remember that straight up. I don't remember hoop

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Speaker 2: But you're coming out of Chicago, and you know it's

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Speaker 3: Back in the day, my mom worked two three jobs.

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Speaker 3: You know, she wanted to give me away from that.

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Speaker 3: it's not the gangs, it's your friends, you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: Let me rock, did you did you play a boy?

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Speaker 2: Never play basketball straight up?

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Speaker 4: So so being that you went back to Marshall, you know,

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Speaker 4: So just talk about the fabric and I already know

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Speaker 4: Your journey from Marshall to Arkansas, how did your recruiting

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Speaker 1: Like? How did all of that shakedown?

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Speaker 3: So I never play you? And my mom didn't believe it.

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Speaker 3: She believed if you're good, they'll find you. I committed

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Speaker 3: big offers came between Arkansas and Michigan. I don't want

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Speaker 3: I took Arkansas.

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Speaker 2: And uh, well, you chose Toledo. That was the first

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Speaker 3: Off you said, soul, you go see this summer too.

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Speaker 3: As soon as I get that offer, I got tired

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Speaker 1: These situations. Let me get.

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Speaker 2: How did you like Arkansas? You chose Walkansas? What it

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Speaker 3: So that he's like, man, I'm gonna go there and

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell, Like I come from East Saint Louis,

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Speaker 3: If you people, if you're not from that, like you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So and like talk about how important that is

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Speaker 4: So my first time leaving was like he's saying, when

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Speaker 4: we got to the NBA, we come here to La

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Speaker 1: It's like whoa.

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Speaker 4: But like people that's not from Chicago understanding why it's

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Speaker 1: Totally.

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Speaker 4: I feel like for our survival and for us to

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Speaker 4: who knows what could have happened. Just so, like you said,

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Speaker 4: just from being around it so much, not necessarily being

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Speaker 4: whatever it may be, that have been impacted or our

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Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying, it still can't happen.

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Speaker 4: So like just talk about the importance of like you realize,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like the simplest things like men

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Speaker 4: In fact, so what made you leave school early as

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Speaker 3: I got suspended the year I got suspended a year,

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Speaker 3: y'all hoop.

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Speaker 3: Could take clothes for me, you could take money away

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a different monster and tell me to

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Speaker 1: No, I'm straight. I can't hop man, I can't hoop.

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Speaker 1: A as a pro, and we chose Ukrain.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, So we it's natural, like

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Speaker 4: And people don't realize how many people really do those

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Speaker 4: People like us to come from where we come from,

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Speaker 2: You see it in your homie you know, crib you know,

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Speaker 3: You know what, I was so locked in. I wanted

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Speaker 3: They I think Jaylen rode his angle. They called me

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Speaker 3: I remember this game. He had like nineteen and third,

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Speaker 1: My first still NBA, my hit my first corner three

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Speaker 2: Yesterday a cross. I'll crawl for this.

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Speaker 1: That helped me first. Yea, yeah, I on him right.

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Speaker 2: That's how it was with us when we came in.

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Speaker 2: I see a price on this here, I gotta lock

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Speaker 3: I mean, anybody know, if you have reputation in this league,

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Speaker 1: You know in your mind he get buckets and for me.

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Speaker 3: I embraced that, so I know in my mind, you

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Speaker 3: coming right at you. I'm at you all game. You

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Speaker 4: special move that I'm gonna do.

439
00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,920
Speaker 2: One thing I love about you is, you know, playing

440
00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,480
Speaker 2: in this league, you you'll get caught up and start

441
00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,400
Speaker 2: them where you'll play as a player that you look

442
00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,600
Speaker 2: at or you might even look up to, and some

443
00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,360
Speaker 2: players be scared to touch them, like scared to get

444
00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,840
Speaker 2: close to him. And so for form seeing you play,

445
00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,840
Speaker 2: I'm proud that to even see this that you won't

446
00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,920
Speaker 2: be scared to touch on. Oh you want to. That's

447
00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,560
Speaker 2: part of the game. You throw a little bowls, you

448
00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,880
Speaker 2: gotta get broke up and all that stuff. People make

449
00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,760
Speaker 2: a big deal out of what you're doing, but that's

450
00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:32,880
Speaker 2: what you're supposed to be doing.

451
00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I embrace it. I don't care if

452
00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,320
Speaker 3: it's a point guard, shooting guard, small for it. I

453
00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,320
Speaker 3: feel like my wheel is bigger than anyone else's. So

454
00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,119
Speaker 3: if consecutly you might beat me a hundred times, but

455
00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,959
Speaker 3: that time where I need to get a stop, I'm

456
00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,840
Speaker 3: gonna get a stop because I want it way more

457
00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,040
Speaker 3: than anybody else. And that's just how I carried myself.

458
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,560
Speaker 3: I want it way more than anybody else.

459
00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,800
Speaker 4: The thing I think that I like the most when

460
00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,119
Speaker 4: I watch you play, it just puts me back in

461
00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,560
Speaker 4: the real West. Dead serious. You just think about what

462
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,760
Speaker 4: the Red West has always been. Small, scrappy guards. It

463
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,600
Speaker 4: was more guards than anything like Westernhouse sent out four guards, y'all.

464
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,240
Speaker 4: Marshall historically played three four guards. And you know what

465
00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,359
Speaker 4: I'm saying, A six five sixty six big man.

466
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:13,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

467
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 4: Like, but the DNA of it, it was always whether

468
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,240
Speaker 4: like you hear KG talking about it when he came

469
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,680
Speaker 4: through and it was like, he's who he is, seven

470
00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,160
Speaker 4: feet sixty eleven playing against six two dudes, who's scrapping?

471
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,120
Speaker 1: Who trying to kill him? Who wont it? Who giving everything?

472
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,119
Speaker 4: And that's what I see, Like you might guard a

473
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,440
Speaker 4: labron toe to toe with them, ready for whatever he

474
00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 4: knock you down. He's six nine, three hundred pounds, whatever,

475
00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 4: how many pounds he is over you, it don't matter.

476
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 1: You fighting, you giving.

477
00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 4: It every single and like you said, yeah he gonna score,

478
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 4: he gonna do, but you're gonna win your battles in there.

479
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 4: You're gonna win. You're gonna get this key possession. It's

480
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 4: key steal, a deflection when you need it. And then

481
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,199
Speaker 4: to see how you react. That's what takes me to

482
00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 4: the Western House, to the Red West, to the Marshall.

483
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,200
Speaker 4: Not only am Mike Willer to die for, but I'm

484
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,120
Speaker 4: up in your face about it. I'm gonna let you

485
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 4: know about it because that's where we come from, that's

486
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,640
Speaker 4: what we do. I didn't earn the fact to get

487
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,159
Speaker 4: up in your face and let you know what I

488
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 4: just did too, because you who you are, and you

489
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 4: do what you do, and don't nobody do what I

490
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 4: just did to you all the time.

491
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 3: I just feel like during my time of basketball, I've

492
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,959
Speaker 3: been around I've been fortunate to be around a lot

493
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 3: of people, right And and I'm not just saying that

494
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 3: because y'all here, But like, I don't know if people

495
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 3: understand what y'all did for the game with this, Like

496
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 3: not only did you represent, but you were able to

497
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 3: be yourself within you. Now you see people are still

498
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 3: in threes and doing all like this. That's the same

499
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 3: thing when people was doing this. But you know what

500
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 3: I'm saying, But y'all open that door for people to

501
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 3: beat themselves, and now that door open. So I'm like,

502
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 3: I ain't ashamed where I came from. I ain't ashamed how.

503
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 1: I got here.

504
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be myself within the limits of the rules.

505
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna get caught doing no dumb stuff, and

506
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 3: no du I ain't gonna get caught doing no dumb stuff.

507
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be myself on this court.

508
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 3: So if I get to stop, y'all, I'm in here

509
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 3: and I'm representing whatever I represent. You know what I'm saying,

510
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,640
Speaker 3: And I ain't ashamed of that. That's who I am,

511
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 3: you know, I'm like that and off the court like

512
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 3: it's just you know, I'm very consistent in who I am,

513
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 3: and I'm cool with it.

514
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm cool with I know I ain't going in the game.

515
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 3: I know I ain't gonna get twenty five shots, but

516
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 3: I'm cool with that because I know in the time

517
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 3: it's gonna be the time I need to hit that

518
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 3: big shot, and I'm gonna knock it down whenever that

519
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 3: time ready. But if my job is to come in

520
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 3: and muck the game up, my job is to lock

521
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 3: him down and make it hard for him, and I

522
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 3: don't score no buckets.

523
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 1: But we win everybody eating job well done, bigger than that,

524
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And that's how I feel

525
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: every night.

526
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 2: I definitely agree with you. Like Western House was real good.

527
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 2: When I was in school and said banks more to

528
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 2: Bay League five. Them boys, they tallest cat was six two,

529
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 2: and they was crazy, like they beat me d Way TJ.

530
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: Cummings Championship of the Nationals. They tallest cat six two,

531
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 2: We got six nine, six eight, sixteen d Wade. That

532
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 2: the guard met Lode I'm talking about, and they full

533
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 2: court pressed our ass and ran us like I'm talking

534
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 2: about like coach teams like Man, the boys was ready

535
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 2: to go. That's what I do see.

536
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 3: And yeah, the pressure but that come from that come

537
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 3: from the coachure though I think you know that comes

538
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 3: not only the players, but that comes from like the

539
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 3: coaches of them in the rail West too. You got

540
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 3: the Chris Heads, you know, and coach Bryant Man Man

541
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 3: cursed me out every single day. I used to live

542
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 3: with the man. Man talk to me the worst I

543
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 3: ever talked to. But now I'm in a position where

544
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 3: I can go to doc here curse me, and I

545
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 3: all right, cool, I got you run through this wall

546
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,719
Speaker 3: for you. You know what I'm saying, because I understand

547
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 3: that passion is there, you know what I'm saying. And

548
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't get that.

549
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 4: The coaches don't coach them like that no more because

550
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 4: it's everything is so sensitive and it's like, I agree,

551
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 4: some coaches go over the line, but like what you're

552
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 4: talking about, wasn't It was never over the line. Our

553
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 4: parents gave our coach permission to handle us a certain way,

554
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 4: like we used to get.

555
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: The paddle too. We got in trouble over there too.

556
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 1: We got in trouble in school.

557
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 4: Roll like that means you didn't did something super ignorant

558
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 4: and like you about to get a lot of licks,

559
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 4: So like take what you're supposed to get. We don't

560
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 4: know what it is, but you could take the You

561
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 4: could roll the dice, so you could go from two

562
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 4: to twelves, like you feel me like, and I'm talking

563
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 4: about it, like this is a real thing. Like if

564
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 4: you didne did something ignorant enough, you might as well

565
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 4: go ahead roll the dice because you're about to get

566
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 4: at least ten.

567
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: You might as well take that chance.

568
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 4: And you like, oh, but like a coach could go

569
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 4: ham on me, and I'm gonna be cool because before

570
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 4: it even got to my coach, my pops handled me

571
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 4: that way. He dealt with me with that type of confrontation.

572
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 4: He was gonna, yeah, he was gonna put me in

573
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 4: my place and let me know or whatever. And if

574
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 4: I did it in front of people, he was gonna

575
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 4: handle it in front of people. So like when I

576
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 4: got to school, it was the same thing. Coach Stanton

577
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 4: wasn't going. He wasn't going like boy. So when I

578
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 4: got to college, it was like I already knew you

579
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 4: really don't talk back to the coach like, and if

580
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 4: you do, you do it in respectful man, Because my

581
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 4: pops always was like you could speak your peace and

582
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 4: say your mind, but you gonna not ever disrespect me

583
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 4: in no type of way.

584
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: Like You're gonna always respect this.

585
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 4: So like I always knew how to communicate back and

586
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 4: forth and still be able to move within that, you

587
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, what, especially when it's volatile, I

588
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 4: could go back and forth. I can think of times

589
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 4: with me and coach Poster, coach stan Van Gundy, we

590
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 4: going natty. He yelling me, I'm yelling at him, but

591
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 4: it's like he still know that my heart was in

592
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 4: the right place. It was never about me being selfish

593
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 4: or something like that. It would be always something as

594
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 4: long as it was that they never had a problem

595
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 4: with me and they you know what I'm saying. I

596
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 4: think that's why they loved me for my passion for

597
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 4: the game and for the team. As long as it

598
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 4: wasn't selfish and stuff like that, it was cool. But

599
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 4: I think that's why some of these kids they can't

600
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 4: take it when they get to this level because they

601
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 4: ain't been coached like that.

602
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely understand that, but I didn't get coached

603
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: in high school like that, and I'm with all the

604
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: authority stuff. I don't really got no problem that because

605
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 2: I run through a brick wall. For you too. It's

606
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 2: just when a coach come to you like he gonna

607
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 2: beat your ass, like he gonna come to me, you

608
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: got a point at me, or you running up on

609
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: me like you're finna do something like you coming from

610
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: an environment where I'm coming from, the first thing we

611
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: ready to do is step up and do whatever you're

612
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 2: talking about. So when you coming at me like that

613
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 2: instead of really teaching me and getting on my that's

614
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: the right way, and you gotta you gotta be at me.

615
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: That ain't how you coach, you know what I'm saying.

616
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: It's a proper way to do things. They try to

617
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: say be professional, but if a player get up and

618
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 2: get in your ass, then it'd be like, oh, he's

619
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 2: being unprofessional, So why not the coach being professional? Like

620
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: I said, I don't got no problem with coaches getting

621
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 2: on your ass saying what you do. But when you're

622
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: talking to me like you're gonna put your hands on me,

623
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: that I ain't come from that. You know what I'm saying,

624
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: can't nobody put their hands on me and my mama

625
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: be the first to be like, oh he touched you.

626
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 2: You beat his ass.

627
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

628
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: So it is what it is. You and shit talking.

629
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 2: How you grew up talking shit? Like where you get

630
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: that from? You know where it came from.

631
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 3: So the way GP talked and where I talk is

632
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 3: totally different. Like GP, he coming out the gate, Yeah

633
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 3: he has your neck.

634
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: Me. I just stayed obvious. Can't shoot, you can't shoot

635
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: guarding you can't shoot. You know what I'm saying. You

636
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: don't have no handle. I'm gonna take it every single time.

637
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so, you know, but GP he on

638
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: something like he after he and that's my man.

639
00:25:59,240 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: He helped me.

640
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 3: Like that's why, man, But he talking your bom. You

641
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 3: know he's talking all stars like that.

642
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So you gotta respect that.

643
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: But yeahs, do you let it wind up? Or you

644
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 2: already had a mindset coming in the game, like already

645
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: you see chinks in this. I watched so much basketball

646
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,239
Speaker 2: man in my wall. I understand what I need with

647
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: his knives and guns, whatever I need, I understand.

648
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm going in that.

649
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 2: Way for you and the mud. So you see it already.

650
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: Especially see if and if a lot of these players

651
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: they think they so big because they got all the

652
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: money we on this level that they just can't get

653
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: rather or touch a justice system and make them do

654
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: something that they don't want to do. Touch That's what

655
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 2: I say. Touch it. You get some of these good

656
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: players and you get this close to him, fuck up

657
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: his whole real he get all mad and stuff.

658
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 4: I just think it's the one thing you do that

659
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 4: I I used to do this to get people mad

660
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 4: as soon as the ball changed.

661
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm in this check. I'm talking about like always Steel

662
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: down here on this never ever got that. Think about

663
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: that they've been They've been privileged, They've been escorted to

664
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Speaker 1: the bucket the hose. Ain about that.

665
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 3: Since you in high school all America, people scared to

666
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 3: touch you. Ain't nobody touching in college, and ain't nobody

667
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 3: do nothing to you because you draft pick, you probably

668
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 3: don't practice the avery day and you get to the

669
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 3: league and I'm sitting there waiting on you like I

670
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: want this and I'm gonna show you how it's done

671
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 3: every single time.

672
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 2: Bro, I don't want no disrespect to Lebron. But like

673
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: I used to feel like players used to just be

674
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: scared to get up in them, not saying that they

675
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 2: were gonna stop them or nothing like that. I just

676
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 2: feel like the effort one there. I give effort on defense,

677
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: like you bust my ass, You're gonna earn every bit

678
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: of what you get. But in this new league, defensively

679
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: you're a defensive players like they steady cutting off stuff

680
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: that you can't do defensively. How can you play.

681
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 3: Def I mean to me, I think it's easier now.

682
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 3: It gives you the green Like I'm going in the game.

683
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: I understand I got steph asks.

684
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: A little kid. What's step to curry? Do he shoot? Okay?

685
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 3: Not gonna let him shoot? You have to beat me

686
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: with layups all game. I don't understand what people go back,

687
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 3: he dribble, go back and they stand there like.

688
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: Ah, so what if you fall? Get up? So we

689
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: get crossed over? Get up? Like, man, we're trying to

690
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: win a game. Bro care about that?

691
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: Man?

692
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: And so much people caught up in like oh man

693
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: and ods viral on Instagram.

694
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: Man, care about that dog. I'm trying to win a

695
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: game right now. I'm trying to win a game right now, brow,

696
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: I don't care about that. You crossed me cool. Last

697
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: time I been crossed.

698
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: You dunked the ball. I ain't enough shot blocker, shot block?

699
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: Is that you know? They changed the league? Five man

700
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: needs to needs to shoot threes?

701
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: Now? Yeah, Like that's that's crazy, Like you don't get no.

702
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: Don't you used to get calming? Jermaine O'Neil, like caught

703
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 2: my dunk. I went up all flashy, caught me at

704
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: the rim. It's like I hung myself and I feel

705
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: all right. Like they were blocking dunks back then. Big

706
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: seven foot is under there, but Tumbo was under that.

707
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: Jont when Weying was still in there. LINESO Morning got

708
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: I think lines on morning got it's five thousand blocked

709
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: on me or some sh shitt me a poster like

710
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: thanks to Mo blocking my I think I got him

711
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: miss five thousand, big home like that. You should have

712
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: told me I would have blocked somebody else. Got Hi

713
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: shooting threes?

714
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: Now?

715
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 4: Hey, So has it ever been a time where you've

716
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: got to talking crazy and then you was like, damn, buddy,

717
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 4: got going, or you want to be quiet or something.

718
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: I know you didn't want to be you don't. You don't.

719
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: You don't, right, But just like where you know what

720
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 4: I'm saying, where like, is it ever a time where

721
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 4: you you're getting crazy and talking crazy and it didn't

722
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 4: really go that great for you?

723
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 3: No, I go back to everything I do. I go

724
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: back to the rootsom streets. I ain't gonna talk about

725
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: nothing if I can't get up about that jam.

726
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I ain't gonna come at nobody.

727
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: And I know he had hit her. I ain't no

728
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: need to talk to him. He bring I'm locked in.

729
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm watching him. What's up with him? You know what

730
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

731
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: And that's my same on court, like I ain't gonna

732
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: go up there talk try to Steph Curry. Steph Curry,

733
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: get thirty shots a game.

734
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: Listen, you feel me?

735
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: You know some people you you know you pick your

736
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: backs with some people. You are No, Steph Curry, see me,

737
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: don't talk. You know what's up a pack? He locked in?

738
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

739
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: So it's just different approach to people. Who is the

740
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: hardest person.

741
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: I give him a mix, I get dame. He up there.

742
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 4: People don't give him enough respect. Like I tried to

743
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 4: say this to y'all. He's saying, Man, listen, Dame Dollar

744
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 4: is a problem, is a and I think it's because

745
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 4: he way up in the Pacific Northwest and you know

746
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 4: that Portland. They maybe don't get enough exposed.

747
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

748
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 4: I watch him anyway on the League pass and all that,

749
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 4: so that ain't no excuse for me. I know work

750
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 4: when I see work, and I'm talking about he wanted them,

751
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 4: And I don't know why you don't really get to

752
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 4: just do like that because he as cold as.

753
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: Any of them, and he cold within an offense state

754
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: run so they don't run like he got the ball everything,

755
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: but everything ain't for him. Rights and the down screens

756
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: like you put Dame just get him the rock and

757
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: he just facilitated put Dame in Golden state. You know

758
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, put damon Houston Rockers type of offense.

759
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that's no.

760
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: Disrespect to that coach of they system or anything, but

761
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 3: I mean I think only people getting a little bit

762
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: taste how.

763
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: Dang ward up. I agree he played for my god.

764
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: Heard people don't know about system like that. Sometimes a

765
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: system can water down the player that a player could

766
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: have been great at.

767
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: And he ain't even walk down. You know what I'm saying.

768
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: All right, So if he was in another system, just

769
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: to imagine. But yeah, I say Dame, I say Kimber.

770
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 3: But again, due to you know what's around him, we're

771
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: going in, We're trapping him getting them every time, you

772
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Every time got to put Russ

773
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: up there because you don't know what you go get from.

774
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. Like Rusking.

775
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: He can go cold for five games and you play

776
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: them and he hit five three and you look like, man,

777
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So but yeah, I put

778
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: them three for sure.

779
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's up.

780
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 5: Though it may seem like it, this podcast isn't really

781
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 5: about sports.

782
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Speaker 2: It's the fall of nineteen eighty seven. I'm twelve years old.

783
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Speaker 1: No one knows who threw up on Robert Dorry.

784
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Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong. The scores, the fans, the adversity,

785
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 5: the triumphs, all the elements are there, but the stories

786
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Speaker 5: they're a little different.

787
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Speaker 3: I had an AFRO, like a full on, authentic nineteen

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Speaker 3: seventy seven afro.

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Speaker 5: You see, the mission of the Player Tribune has always

790
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792
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Speaker 1: You're pretty excited.

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Speaker 2: You with the Clippers and the Clippers is like side team, man,

812
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: And to see you on the Clippers with that blue

813
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: and red, it looked good just to see another Illinois

814
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: because we had a couple of them come through. They

815
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: had what with Corey mcghetty me you, Bobby Simmons, who else?

816
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: They had Wilson here now Wilson.

817
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had.

818
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: Bro kind of making in Chicago.

819
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: So much so no Clip has been grabbing us since

820
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: they had Tyrone Nasby here, he's from boy, they had

821
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: him way back, winning word.

822
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: I mean, but I know y'all know though, but you

823
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 3: know this team, you know, and there's no disrespectful with

824
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: Chris Paul and them done because of course they paid

825
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: the way for us to be able to But you know,

826
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: this team, like with no quote unquote superstar, still getting

827
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: it done, finding a way every time. Especially you know,

828
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 3: like and this team godly bro, it really is you

829
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: around us and you'll be like, man, you know, you'll

830
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 3: look up, you'll be up eight. You look up, we're

831
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 3: up sixteen. They seen no game. They won that one too,

832
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: you know, just playing the right way.

833
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: Bro popping, yeah, popping, folks.

834
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 4: As far as like the Clips, I'm super happy for

835
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 4: y'all making the playoffs and its run that y'all on

836
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 4: and finishing up the way y'all are. I mean because Ralph,

837
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, his fortieth and final year

838
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 4: and he finishing up and like for me, this is

839
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 4: this is awesome to see him get a chance to

840
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 4: go out in the playoffs. And I saw y'all did

841
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 4: a thing with the cake. And I mean just the

842
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 4: whole way the organization. Bomber is an owner, the way

843
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 4: they didn't change things around, and just the way the

844
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: culture is here. I mean being when you go to

845
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 4: the Staple Center and you go to a Clippers game,

846
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: it's a Clippers game now, Like when.

847
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: We were here, we had to sit there, you know.

848
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 4: In the beginning of the game when you stretching and

849
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 4: laying down before the lineups and all that. Everything in

850
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 4: the Staples Center, it was the Lakers, Jersey's returning to

851
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 4: Lakers everything. Now when Balmber came, Doc came the first

852
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 4: some of the first changes that I remember because I

853
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 4: was in Detroit City. I remember coming and playing like yo,

854
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 4: they covered up all the Lakers stuff, like what like

855
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 4: you come outside, it's like you got the banners hanging

856
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 4: and say Clipper Nation and.

857
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: Never did we see that. It's really cool to see that.

858
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 4: Like when the Clippers games go on, then when the

859
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 4: fans come, they feel like they in their own stadium

860
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 4: because we never did. We felt like we were playing

861
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 4: in the Lakers state.

862
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying.

863
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: It was we you know they got that was like that.

864
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: So it's dope to see all the progression that it made,

865
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. We used to practice at

866
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 4: Southwest Junior College in South Central, l A.

867
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: Bro south Central like you feel around the corner.

868
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 4: Like a juco in the hood like and it was

869
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 4: all I mean, we was used to the environment. We

870
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 4: just didn't expect it being in the league. Going our

871
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 4: presidency like ohload County pulled through his asking Martin. The

872
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 4: dudes like all up on the car, like yo, look.

873
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: At the whip.

874
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like we're driving through like

875
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 4: while they going changing classes.

876
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: The kids everywhere, they.

877
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 2: Used to tell us, make it left and go to

878
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: a highway, don't make a right and go to the

879
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: LICKT store. You need to go that way.

880
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: Bro, world up, I mean, and man, we and I

881
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: know y'all, y'all man to play in LA and play

882
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: for the Clippers, and you got the Lakers on the

883
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: other side. And I know, y'all know championships then three

884
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: p And it's different now, right because you know when

885
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 3: you played for the Clippers, it's like the misfits, the

886
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 3: blue collar people, people who won't get the first roll,

887
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: the people on the back, you know, people who can't

888
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: get in.

889
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: And then you do it this like what we're doing

890
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: this year.

891
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: And know, no disrespect for the Lakers, but like we

892
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 3: in the playoffs and that not all those people get

893
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: the joy now, Yeah, all the misfits, all the people

894
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: who say if you couldn't do it, and all that

895
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: not the biggest, not the smallest.

896
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 4: From day one this year, no matter what happened, you

897
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 4: were screaming, y'all was the best team in LA training

898
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 4: camp type talk from early on. And I remember it

899
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 4: because I was like, look at my shot down, don't

900
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 4: kill he don't care. He like letting it be known

901
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 4: off the back before a gameplay. He ain't front running,

902
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 4: waiting until they get to a good start. All of

903
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 4: that stuff. You gonna make it on right now. Obviously,

904
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 4: you reiterated not too long ago. Once it was cleansed

905
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 4: and all of that, Like talk about how that feel

906
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: with everything this team has been through. And then the

907
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 4: part of it that I love, the hardened soul of y'all.

908
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: Whole deal are underdogs.

909
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 4: You treads lou like y'all are like the heart and

910
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 4: soul is keeping everything together, just been the one consistent

911
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 4: throughout everything. And it's like y'all are the heartbeating the

912
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 4: post of everything, and it's like y'all underdog.

913
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I think it's all Doc. I

914
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: mean he let us rock. I mean he own us.

915
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying that.

916
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: Of course Doc.

917
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 3: Chicago, Illinois, you know what I'm saying. So he's giving

918
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 3: us like, man, look, I'm gonna let y'all rock with y'all.

919
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: Y'all gotta rock one way, and we like, all right,

920
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: you know, we can be ourselves within the schemes of things,

921
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: but like we just want it more and we do

922
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 3: it for you know what I'm saying that the kids

923
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: that ain't the talls, that ain't got the best jump shots,

924
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: like the ones that got to grind too, to show

925
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: you that you don't need all that to be successful.

926
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 3: Work hard, you know, stay true to yourself, like the

927
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 3: cream alls ride to the top. Put that work in

928
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 3: and like everything gonna be laid out for you, you know,

929
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: just put that work in. And we've been putting work

930
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: in for years. Like we put work in. We won

931
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 3: forty some games last year with all the injuries, and

932
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 3: we still came up short, you know, and we ain't

933
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: ducking nobody, Like we want all the smoke with anybody,

934
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 3: Like anybody who we play, if it's golden say done

935
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: with like rocket, Like we don't care. And that's the

936
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: thing about it, Like we we really don't care, like

937
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 3: anybody can get some of the smoke.

938
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: Man. And that's how that's how I mentality is.

939
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 2: You gotta earn it to get past.

940
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see people anyway.

941
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 4: I look at it and away got to see him anyway.

942
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 4: And it's definitely a great message to the kids. You

943
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying for the guys that there's not

944
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 4: all Americans or McDonald's. Like we was talking about that

945
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 4: the other day. Some guys like d Wade wasn't McDonald's.

946
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 4: You feel me, Like he wasn't a McDonald's kid. Look

947
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 4: at what he is, the career he didn't have. How

948
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 4: he an all time great and y'all examples too, Like,

949
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 4: you ain't gotta be a McDonald's alimic, you ain't got

950
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 4: to be a college all America. You ain't gotta be

951
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 4: a top pick. You ain't even gotta be drafted. Sometimes

952
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 4: you just gotta get in and keep working and find

953
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 4: your way, you know what I'm saying. Just keep working,

954
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 4: Like that's the main thing that you said that no

955
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 4: matter what it is, whether it's basketball or life, just

956
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: keep working, you know what I'm saying.

957
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: Playing for Doc Rivers, I got the opportunity to be

958
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: with Doc Rivers for two months. Great experience for me,

959
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: just being with the Celtics, being around him and just

960
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: seeing how he coaching, how he do his thing, how

961
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: he take care of players and rest players because these

962
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: knees was bad as hell, but just a good coach.

963
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: I just liked him. How does it feel to play

964
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 2: for Doc Rivers?

965
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: Doc?

966
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: At first, coming from d'An toni system, where I was

967
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: able to do wherever I wanted right, you can do

968
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: the same thing with Doc, but you have to learn

969
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 3: how to play the right way, you know, And me

970
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 3: coming here, I've honestly I became a better basketball player

971
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: on the Doc and that's no offense against Tony, you know,

972
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 3: but Doc told me you got to pull the ball.

973
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 3: You gotta, you know, put that thing down. You gotta,

974
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: you know, two more dribbles off, pick and roll. Just

975
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: small things like that that guards need to hear. You

976
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: know that the guards need to hear that to help you.

977
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: And then it helped you be like, oh man, and

978
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: I feel like if you're part of you can look

979
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 3: at it. And it's wild because people never look at it.

980
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 3: But if you playing for Doc and you and his rotation,

981
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: you will have some of the best numbers you ever

982
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: had in your career. Chris Paul had it, but Griffin

983
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: Jordan had it, Tobias Ears had, Gallo had it, Lou

984
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 3: had it. I'm having the treads having You know, you

985
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: can go down the line peat Paul Pierce when you

986
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: hear he played.

987
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: He had it, you know, a big baby. He had it.

988
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: Ray Allen Rondo had it.

989
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 3: You know you played you in that system and you're

990
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: playing the right way, You're gonna have some of the

991
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 3: best numbers and you gonna know how to play the

992
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 3: right way. So his at os Man, you know, you

993
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 3: said you've been around him. It's stuff at the time.

994
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 3: After he dropped, it's an open shot every single time.

995
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, he the goat man. Yeah.

996
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 2: I liked how you coach the Rockets, like you finally

997
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: I know you you jumped from team a team, but

998
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 2: the Rockets was like kind of like where you playing

999
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: at your ground and the league really recognized, like who

1000
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: Pat Beverley is, and like you changed the coach. Yeah,

1001
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: James Harden was there doing this thing, but you was

1002
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 2: part of that coaches yea. So to see the league

1003
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: kind of embrace you and be like, oh, no, you're

1004
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 2: a player that posed to not only be in this league,

1005
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: but stay in this league for some years. You're healthy.

1006
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: How did that feel?

1007
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: I didn't notice it until I came back there.

1008
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: I didn't notice how big I was on Rockets until

1009
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: I left and came back the left came back. You know,

1010
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there and I look up. I got a tribute.

1011
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 3: I'm tribune, Yeah, tribute Yeah, and the whole I turned around,

1012
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 3: the whole crowd standing up, and it hit me like, damn,

1013
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 3: I didn't even I didn't even walking with me being myself,

1014
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like I'm just going out

1015
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: there doing I gotta do, try to win basketball games.

1016
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: Like I'm cool with being Robin. You know, I know

1017
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: who Batman is. I'm cool with that. Like and then

1018
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: you know, I saw that then and then it hit me, like, yo,

1019
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: you you got a gift, y'all. You got a gift

1020
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: that you can you a culture change, you can change coaches.

1021
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: Man, I was able to do it here to such people, man, Like,

1022
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: people really appreciate that for me. Man, they respected that.

1023
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: I know how that kind of yeah, like, man, you

1024
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: changed the environment. You know what I'm saying, And you're

1025
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 2: doing it again.

1026
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: That's what That's what my homie told me, because you know,

1027
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: when you in it, and y'all know it's basketball players,

1028
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 3: when you in it, it's hard to enjoy it because

1029
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: it's it's something else about to happen.

1030
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: It's another game, you know whatever.

1031
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: He's broke it down to, Like, g it's like you

1032
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: in the fight with somebody and you know they beating

1033
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 3: y'all up and everybody running. You see your homie right there,

1034
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 3: just swing and knocking people out. He said, That's how

1035
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: I look on the court. I'm like, for real, he said,

1036
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 3: And that's why everybody followed you. I'm like, oh, I

1037
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: ain't even notice it like that.

1038
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 4: It's dope to see, you know what I'm saying, because

1039
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 4: it's like it's a lot of people. It's a lot

1040
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 4: of players like that to get in the league, and

1041
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 4: they may go their whole career and don't never get

1042
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 4: that just due because they don't get in that right position.

1043
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 4: Like you've been blessed enough to be being in those

1044
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 4: positions where you get to do it and then your

1045
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 4: value is saying like ta, like, look at what he

1046
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 4: did in Memphis.

1047
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: He about to get his.

1048
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 4: Jersey retired because it's just what you're talking about, and

1049
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 4: they acknowledged it because that and that's what I mean.

1050
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 4: It's players like it's different guys that that don't get

1051
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 4: acknowledged for for stuff like that, and they don't get

1052
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 4: they just do because the city may not acknowledged it more.

1053
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm saying, because he do he do what

1054
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 4: I'm saying, just to just do it. He got just

1055
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: to just do it. He getting like come on, man,

1056
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 4: like he getting his jersey Like that's that's like, that's

1057
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: one of the biggest, biggest honors you could get in

1058
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 4: the league. Like it's people that don't get that that

1059
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 4: did you know what I'm saying, probably more than TA did.

1060
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 4: But because of it, he put his DNA, he put

1061
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: his heart and soul out there, and they appreciate that.

1062
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 4: That's why you get a tribute video and different stuff

1063
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 4: like that, because when they see you fighting up against

1064
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 4: the lebron, they looking at you getting not done, bounced

1065
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 4: back up so fast and he right back in his

1066
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 4: chest and it's like, that's who I want to go

1067
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 4: fight with. That's how I felt about Nate rob Trust

1068
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 4: me and believe me, that is one of the toughest

1069
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 4: individuals I've ever known. And when I say he'll run,

1070
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 4: like whatever gonna happen to you is gonna happen to him,

1071
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 4: you ain't gonna see him like breaking them out like

1072
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 4: you said in that scrap When there's one dude, he

1073
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 4: gonna be right behind you, swinging, scraping, fighting, trying to

1074
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 4: flip people, doing whatever. And those are the type of

1075
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 4: people that I identify with because that's like, all right,

1076
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 4: if it's going down, I don't want the seven foot

1077
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 4: of who gonna run. I want I want the dude.

1078
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 4: I don't care how big, how small, whatever I want.

1079
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 4: The dude that's gonna be be right next to me

1080
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 4: when it's going down. And that's what I see when

1081
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 4: I see you the thas I always say, like if

1082
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 4: Ta played in New York, he would have.

1083
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: Been a legend, no walking legend.

1084
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 4: Like that's what I'm saying, Like like like they die

1085
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: for people like him, but people like you him, Like

1086
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 4: they come to New York while everybody else stinking it

1087
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 4: up whatever, and they see y'all out there just swinging

1088
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 4: like y'all get a standing ovation like off of play

1089
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 4: like that just from you doing to do a hustle

1090
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 4: play like that go crazy like I didn't seen it,

1091
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 4: Like so like it's dope to see y'all boys getting

1092
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: that justg dude from you know what I'm saying, from

1093
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 4: doing those things, Cause that's still like everybody want that

1094
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 4: star role. It's not as glorified to take the approach,

1095
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying to be able to have

1096
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 4: that understand. I know that I ain't gonna get thirty shots,

1097
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 4: but I gotta guard this dude who gonna get to

1098
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 4: do anything under the sun. He get a trial less moves.

1099
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 4: I feel I can't you know what I'm saying it

1100
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 4: take a special individual to be able to say, Okay,

1101
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 4: I'm about to go out here, play thirty five forty minute?

1102
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: How many minutes to.

1103
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 4: Guard this dude who got a full clip green light

1104
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 4: and then he could talk crazy to me, he could

1105
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 4: go at me, and I still got to know that

1106
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 4: my role ain't the try and go back and get

1107
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 4: a bucket on him. I gotta try and get mine

1108
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 4: on defense. This is why I gotta try and get mad.

1109
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 4: And this is where I live, and this is where

1110
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 4: I thrive at in this zone. And like you cool

1111
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 4: with it, you, I don't care if I get it,

1112
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 4: I don't need and if he scored thirty, as long

1113
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 4: as I get that one play my team need like that.

1114
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 4: That's a special way of thinking that dudes don't even have.

1115
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: So that's a salute. I appreciate that.

1116
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 2: Real appreciate them, man, real real ball to see the

1117
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: the work and the stuff that you put in, and man,

1118
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: a lot of people respect it and seeosed to get

1119
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: everything that you do and even more appreciate what you

1120
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: put in. They't they can't give you enough. But I'm

1121
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: glad for the Houston Rockets organization to even give that

1122
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: to you, this shows like they respected what you brought

1123
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: to take because it's like, man, you changed the culture.

1124
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: You really did. And you know, being from Illinois, we

1125
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: always root for the Illinois kids and they'll be like, man, Chicago.

1126
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 4: He keeps trying to say. You know, I'm saying, Chicag.

1127
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 4: I know, I just got to know we had tum.

1128
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 4: You kept on seeing that. I'm just like, right now,

1129
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 4: you know.

1130
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: I was mister basketball in Illinois, know Chicago due my year.

1131
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: I can't take that. That's a fact. I can't take that.

1132
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: Fact when you came up who you've seen that you

1133
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: was paying your.

1134
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: Kg so ir number twenty one.

1135
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 3: So I always won number twenty one, call me k

1136
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: in high school.

1137
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, not even.

1138
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 3: His game because he afore me got to do with

1139
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 3: the crazy expect It has nothing to do with his

1140
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 3: basketball skill. It has everything to do with this past intensity.

1141
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: It's exhausting to see how he brings that twenty four

1142
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 4: to seven relentless. Like I've said that before, like to

1143
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 4: see how ticket used to be what And I was

1144
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 4: somebody who knew him, you know what I'm saying. Not

1145
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 4: like knew him to him as boy, but I knew

1146
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 4: him to what we would speak, and it would be

1147
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 4: like he don't say nothing.

1148
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: To nobody, like on jump ball and all that.

1149
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 4: He just sit there like, hey, now again he get

1150
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 4: to get you with to do one of them or something,

1151
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 4: but like he ain't gonna really say nothing because he

1152
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 4: like he's so wired. So like then and then it's

1153
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 4: like I gotta go beat my head on the go,

1154
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 4: but gotta scream, gotta do this, like ya. I used

1155
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 4: to think about, like, get into one of them games

1156
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 4: where I be really like wired, Like then you get

1157
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 4: after that game, you be tired as hell. I'm like, bro,

1158
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 4: I don't understand how cage you do this every game

1159
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 4: and just be like because I remember for a man,

1160
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: I used to be like, all right, you tripping a

1161
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 4: little bit, right, But then you start looking at it,

1162
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 4: it's like, nah, this is every single day, all day long,

1163
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 4: crazy like like that's exhausting.

1164
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: Done.

1165
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: What about somebody that's your heart, like somebody that just

1166
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: play your position?

1167
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 3: Of course you like a I And then I I

1168
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: was I was always different. I like Ben Gordon. Yeah,

1169
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 3: I felt like you know, he came off screens, he

1170
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 3: made shots, he played the right way.

1171
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 4: He hit all neck and didn't hit no riot when

1172
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 4: he was going. He would shoot that thing so high

1173
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 4: and they would hit all.

1174
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: It was nice. He was even nice in the league.

1175
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: It be you know how it is. It's situations, situations,

1176
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: but he game wise, yeah, he was real dope. Like

1177
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: he came behind that era of Rip Hamilton and and

1178
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 2: Ray Allen coming off them screens to do that Yukon stuff.

1179
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: And he you know what I'm saying, he was. He

1180
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: was real nice.

1181
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 2: You want them players that had Like in high school,

1182
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: you know, players were probably ranked above you, so you

1183
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: had that chip on your store, like players had a

1184
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 2: price on their head when you got the opportunity to

1185
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: play against this number one player or whoever it is,

1186
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 2: who was that player you played had they was ranked them?

1187
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: How I had the price on the head and you

1188
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: got this.

1189
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: At first it was it was Will, but Will was

1190
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 3: a lot older than me.

1191
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: And then we can't do the head. But he was

1192
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: way older than me.

1193
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: But then since Sharon went to the same school, Will

1194
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: went to him like all right.

1195
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: Back he the one and was the boy, the dude

1196
00:49:59,239 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: back then.

1197
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 3: He he he's not everything anything from Chicago.

1198
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: Every kid you wanted to be like him. He was

1199
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: that dude.

1200
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 3: He represented you know what I'm saying, and he wanted

1201
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: smoke too, and that's what made it. Yeah, he responded,

1202
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: I'm talking like you. You won't be I want you

1203
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: to come on, you know. And when we battled and

1204
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 3: he got me and I got him, but it made you.

1205
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 4: Came up in that era with d row him. Yeah,

1206
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 4: Jeroon Randall, Yeah, yeah, Little d Gates recruited Randall the

1207
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 4: cat and it was scrappy too. They was that like

1208
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 4: Randall was with the business, all of them like and

1209
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 4: Shire wanted the dude into the city. He played with

1210
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 4: the Warriors. He came to the city, suburban boy, coming

1211
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 4: out of the city from l B l B. Larry

1212
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 4: Butler went together and he was I remember when he

1213
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 4: came and playing on the Warriors.

1214
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 1: I was like, man, who is he cut? Big time?

1215
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: Big time?

1216
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: I said, okay, I used to always Will used to

1217
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 2: work program king.

1218
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: You're about to see him in his big three. Yeah,

1219
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: problems I talked, I talked through the other day.

1220
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: He hit me up. Yeah. I talked to him, like, man,

1221
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: I already know he feel when I've seen his name,

1222
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I can't sign up. Yeah, and chase

1223
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: him Yeah, he ain't gonna have the way he worked too.

1224
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 3: I don't think you know, y'all know, but like the

1225
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 3: way he worked, it's ridiculous on another level.

1226
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 4: Man, But walking around with little peanuts and nuts and

1227
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 4: and he he ain't got no regular water. He got

1228
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 4: twenty five dollars water. You got pH balanced man. Put

1229
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 4: me on that man changed my life.

1230
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 2: Man.

1231
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: He gave me the blueprint and I followed it. But

1232
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: he right, he on his on his doctor, C B

1233
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: stuff everything, none of that. That's my dog man. We

1234
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: appreciate having me, y'all.

1235
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 2: I'm not done. I got questions. I wanted to ask

1236
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: you this stranding on the stranding on the island island,

1237
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: and you had five albums that you wanted to take.

1238
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: What our albums would it be?

1239
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: Gotta go with my man, Teddy P, who turn them off,

1240
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: turn them out?

1241
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta go with Teddy P. I gotta go

1242
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: some temptations. I gotta go with.

1243
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: Some This is an old song right here.

1244
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 4: Let me say yeah Chicago do man night Man.

1245
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna go with the new one, the new

1246
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: one that's the hardest one ever.

1247
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 3: Let his heart going out some type of future whatever

1248
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: future on. You know, he'd be on some stuff sometimes.

1249
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: But my last one, my last one, my last one.

1250
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: I gotta go marry j last one. Which one I'm

1251
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: gonna go with?

1252
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: Uh one one?

1253
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no no? You know what I might go for? Yeah,

1254
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: gotta yeah. She snapped it out.

1255
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 4: Boy, she snapped, this is what I appreciated about Chicago.

1256
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 4: Every boy came out with the with the groove. You

1257
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 4: heard them, that was the first boy hit him with

1258
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 4: the groove. See, that's what I'm talking about.

1259
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'll be in my own world,

1260
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: so I need mellow stuff. We too. I don't like

1261
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: I need to find my.

1262
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 4: Let me let man, let me let somebody sing.

1263
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: You put me up on this song, and I damn

1264
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 2: they used to listen to it before every game. That

1265
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: the closer to my dreams.

1266
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: Oh, the R and B list before the game.

1267
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 3: But people, you got to understand, like the singers back

1268
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: in the day, It's crazy how people don't even look

1269
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 3: at it.

1270
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: They was the most street dudes in the world, you

1271
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like you watch the TV show,

1272
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: the Temptation stuff they went through, Like, ain't.

1273
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 3: No regular singers like the street dude you feel me like,

1274
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 3: so people keep forgetting about that. They think because you're singing,

1275
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 3: you got to be soft, like, nah, them dudes is

1276
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 3: singing about real pain.

1277
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: Man.

1278
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like to touch you late you you're find one

1279
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 2: one bar out of the whole, Like, yeah, I felt

1280
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 2: that way too.

1281
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: One more thing.

1282
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: Top five defenders, your top five defenders of all time,

1283
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: since you're a defendant.

1284
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 3: Gotta go, GP Easy, gotta go, Tony Allen Easy, I

1285
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:27,959
Speaker 3: gotta go. I gotta go, Mike Mmm, I gotta go Mike,

1286
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 3: I gotta go dream hm. And the last one, man,

1287
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 3: I'll go kill me for this one. You got to man,

1288
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 3: I gotta, I gotta, I gotta go.

1289
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 1: With Tombo m hm. No, Scotty lost, Scotty Man, Scotty

1290
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: my man too. I just shout out, I had to go, Mike, though,

1291
00:54:58,360 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: I agree with you and that one.

1292
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 3: You don't get out there of them with Tambo No,

1293
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 3: probably King probably, That's what I'm saying. You see that

1294
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 3: face you make, That's what I'm saying, Like between them

1295
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 3: two is hard, but I still would have put. I

1296
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 3: was cool with g P. T A, I was cool

1297
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: with Scottie and Mike.

1298
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then it's a toss up betweenmo Yeah, but

1299
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 4: I was cool with them for them four I'm I'm rolling.

1300
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 4: I would even been cool with riding and being in

1301
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 4: there with the ship.

1302
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be like I just figured I couldn't

1303
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: take all that I was.

1304
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 2: I can run that in the game to day.

1305
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 3: Dennis rhyme you gotta take him, you got to you

1306
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 3: got And that's crazy.

1307
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: You say that too. The tallest he ain't making no

1308
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: hook shots. He getting the job done.

1309
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 2: And getting in your best players head don't care and

1310
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: he don't care them all in the phase. I love Dennis.

1311
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: I ain't never got a chance to meet him, but.

1312
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 2: I love him. He's one of my favorite players all time. Man,

1313
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: that's what characters all time. He's one of my favorite

1314
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 2: favorite players. And the numbers he putting up with rebound,

1315
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 2: that's crazy.

1316
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 3: And they say he's the work play hard, work harder,

1317
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 3: see the man out, seeing the man, the jump first one,

1318
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: running lifting with I.

1319
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: Like stuff like that, you know what I'm saying, Like

1320
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: I like that grind.

1321
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: You feel me. I love the grind. So you gotta

1322
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: respect people, like how can you tell them not to

1323
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: be in the club?

1324
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 4: And remember you remember the drill MJ told me a

1325
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 4: story one time about it. He said, you remember the

1326
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 4: drill they used to We didn't do it no more,

1327
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 4: but it was kind of old school drill they did,

1328
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 4: like the conditioning drill where they have everybody running and

1329
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 4: then the guy from behind gotta go catch the dude

1330
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 4: in the front, and then you keep going like that.

1331
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 4: So the Rodman used to do do some so like

1332
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 4: you know, all right, every body, first person run, then

1333
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 4: the next person go catching me. Robin would never let

1334
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 4: the person catch person come to get it from He

1335
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 4: take off.

1336
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: The whole. That's called I like that, some man, some food.

1337
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: I like that.

1338
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: I like that you've been defender who was a walking

1339
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: bucket getter? Well it be somebody that we don't know

1340
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: if it's somebody in the league. But he was like

1341
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 2: man telling I see that the league.

1342
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 3: He's going, I'm going to obvious kde right behind him.

1343
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 3: Though yea, I might agree with this.

1344
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: But who like we will.

1345
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 2: Six man, You look up and.

1346
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm seeing Lou with the Rockers. I don't seeing Lou

1347
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: here like everywhere Philly everywhere, every everywhere like and you

1348
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: know what moves he gonna do? And you water bodies

1349
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: world up and it be looking effort. He run back

1350
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: with sweat hard.

1351
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like her still being taken.

1352
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: Right, ain't got no sleeve on and.

1353
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 4: Cool cool will man, don't get rid of about nothing.

1354
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: Game.

1355
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: Want a half bow, Let's go jump shot not nothing

1356
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 2: nothing then floating stuff jump shot?

1357
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: He get buckets.

1358
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: Yah, you ain't definitely agree with you on he he

1359
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 3: get bucket so yeah, kd easy but yeah look for

1360
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 3: shure when it comes to like guards.

1361
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: You know, I ain't seen nobody stopping you showed them to.

1362
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 2: That's I'm the question I wanted to get.

1363
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you're gonna close it up.

1364
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 2: You're gonna close it up.

1365
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I problem.

1366
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 3: Is dope, man, I like be okay to proceed.

1367
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: You just you pitched me y'all from the get go.

1368
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: You read West and me and man, I know it

1369
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: about like two thirty you the wind like you know

1370
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

1371
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: I like, that's read West.

1372
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: Show bro do this again? I like, well somethingoy winning

1373
00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: chips this year?

1374
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: That's how I I'm saying, Bro, what rest my ask?

1375
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: Shot? Time? What did you the same way?

1376
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: Kid?

1377
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: You ain't win no chip though? Yeah, but I want

1378
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: mister basket, I don't want to hear that ship. We

1379
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: want bike the bike man ship.

1380
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 2: I took my hand down there and got popped road.

1381
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: Talk about that. He popped us, popped you like I

1382
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: forgot about the road. Yeah.

1383
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: So you got an opportunity to play against the Rose

1384
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 2: in high school and he was, you know, one of

1385
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 2: the best players to come out of you, and you

1386
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: got a chance to play them at State. I was

1387
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 2: that and we played them with that game. We played

1388
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 2: him at the Christmas Tournament West Christmas and that join

1389
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 2: that'd be rocking.

1390
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 3: They come back, they beat Okay, and they play us.

1391
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: We pop them dirty, y'all get up out of here, man,

1392
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 3: I'll let them. We number one team popped them and

1393
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: y'all come out and then we played them to stay.

1394
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 3: They popped up. They remember that one popular the one

1395
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 3: State there in the semi finals and they beat John

1396
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 3: Shy the championship. And we were trying to see, like,

1397
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 3: how y'all put two city teams agains together?

1398
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they know they do one thing?

1399
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: Told opposite side. We came to State. We was on

1400
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: the same How y'all.

1401
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 2: Do that one thing? I would say going Downstate, it

1402
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 2: seemed like the Chicago teams and us get the hardest

1403
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 2: bracket every single time.

1404
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: We played the team that was thirty three and Everston, Man,

1405
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: what's going on the second round? D Rose?

1406
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 4: Now come on man, Like I said, Man, we want to,

1407
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 4: we want to. We want to wrap it up and

1408
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 4: tell my man we appreciate the Chicago.

1409
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: We gotta get the Rose on him. Man that that

1410
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: d road coming real soon.

1411
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: We Gotoyd represented, goa say that Chicago Shipoyd representatives back.

1412
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 4: Then, little Red West in the house, Marshall, you know

1413
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 4: what I'm talking about.

1414
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: Straight up out out the shot town.

1415
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: We got to do one with all us though. Yo.

1416
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,960
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1417
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1418
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