WEBVTT - Ryan Crysler

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan, you and I have worked together for I guess

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<v Speaker 1>going on about fifteen years now, two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 1>We met in Austin, and you know, it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty fun journey. How much do you feel like golf

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<v Speaker 1>instruction has changed, you know, just in the time that

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<v Speaker 1>you and I have known each other and been working together. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, we had a little bit of a shortcut

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<v Speaker 2>because we knew Dave and Greg from TPI. From TPI, yep, definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>you were one of the early adopters of kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the Titleist Performance Institute. How did you get exposed to

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<v Speaker 2>what they started to do and how do you feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that kind of changed the way that you saw

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<v Speaker 2>golf instruction, Because, I mean it definitely changed the way

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<v Speaker 2>I thought about the way the body worked, the way

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<v Speaker 2>golf swings worked, and how they're all connected. But how

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<v Speaker 2>did you get exposed Because to Greg and Dave at TPI,

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<v Speaker 2>just from the top, I was a titleist professional and

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<v Speaker 2>we became a top titlest account and that gave us

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<v Speaker 2>access to bringing in groups to titleists beginning in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and four, and those guys would go through the

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<v Speaker 2>process screens, the fittings, the workouts with Dave and Greg.

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<v Speaker 2>At first, I was watching them how that all unfolded

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<v Speaker 2>unfolded and what the screens correlated to swing traits, swing

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<v Speaker 2>faults back at the time, right, So if you did

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<v Speaker 2>a certain move and a screen, most likely you'll have

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<v Speaker 2>a certain fault in the golf swing. And that just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of went blew me away, And so selfishly I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to go through it first to help my game.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, because at that time, I think when you

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<v Speaker 1>and I met, I was still trying to play. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you played college golf at SMU. You and who was

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<v Speaker 1>on your who was part of the team when you

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<v Speaker 1>were at SMU.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kny that's probably the big star you Sam Chance yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in my time freshman year, we had Jason

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<v Speaker 2>and who going on to be one of the coaches there,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Parr who's the current coach, Josh Gregory who is

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<v Speaker 2>a great tour coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, who was the SMU coach, the sm coach

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and Hank Haney was your.

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<v Speaker 2>Course, Hank Caney was saving him for last. He was

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<v Speaker 2>my head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that like?

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<v Speaker 2>Very tough, very tough, and for me personally, I went

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<v Speaker 2>to SMU because I knew I would go there if

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't play golf, and it was in Dallas. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>from Austin. I stayed in Texas, Cowboys Stars, all that stuff, Rangers.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to stay in Texas, and it was just

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<v Speaker 2>his graciousness to let me on the team because I

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<v Speaker 2>was a walk off. I had a pretty good record

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<v Speaker 2>my senior year as a player, but that's how I

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<v Speaker 2>got to SMU. It would be the graciousness of Hank Haney.

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<v Speaker 2>And I actually gave it up and worked on becoming

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<v Speaker 2>an FBI agent at the beginning of my sophomore year,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a different tournam events, but.

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<v Speaker 1>From college golf to being an FBI agent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was the dream, and that took a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of time, and I didn't have time for golf and

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<v Speaker 2>those pursuits and being a regular college kid too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, being a regular college kid and trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the FBI probably doesn't go hand in hand, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had to bridge that gut too.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you get from trying to be a

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<v Speaker 1>college golfer too, trying to be an FBI agent to

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<v Speaker 1>now having a you know, almost you know, decade and

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<v Speaker 1>a half of being a golf instructor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll keep it short. Paul orII won the British

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<v Speaker 2>Open in ninety nine. Ye and PAULARI, Uh, who the

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<v Speaker 2>hell is Paul ar Yeah, he was like a driving

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<v Speaker 2>range pro. I came out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he wasn't a driving range but he played. He

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<v Speaker 1>was He played tour.

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<v Speaker 2>He played on the European Tour for a long time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but he came up from you know that those ranks

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<v Speaker 2>and we're like, man, if he can do this, I can.

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<v Speaker 2>He came back from ten shots that Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So I was working and I think Paul gets

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you know, because of the way he

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<v Speaker 1>won that Open championship. I mean, yeah, Paul Lurie was

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<v Speaker 1>a legit player on the European Tour and played and

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<v Speaker 1>just happened to be the last man standing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And most Americans didn't know he was, and I

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<v Speaker 2>certainly didn't know he was, And I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>a great thing. He inspired my decision to change back

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<v Speaker 2>to golf. I mean, because I was working for the

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<v Speaker 2>State of California and Medicaid. I was literally on my

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<v Speaker 2>way to becoming an agent because I worked in claims,

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<v Speaker 2>but I also helped the fraud team and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I was working on. And then I just saw him win.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Man, I'm gonna go give this another shot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm after about a year or so saving money, and

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<v Speaker 2>I came to the Golden Bear Tour in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and one, got my ass kicked, went back home to Austin,

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<v Speaker 2>went back home to Dallas and played around Texas for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time and ended up at Austin Golf Club.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where we met.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where we met. Still trying to play but also

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<v Speaker 2>be an assistant pro section events blah blah blah. But

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<v Speaker 2>because of our relationship with Tylis, we became a good

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<v Speaker 2>titles account for him. We were able to go to

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<v Speaker 2>TPI and we were also able to get in touch

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<v Speaker 2>with the Harmins as we found out that Colt Harmon

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<v Speaker 2>wants to come back to the States.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's I was living. I was working on the

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<v Speaker 1>European Tour at that time, and I was researching. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>while you Line was gracious enough early on in my

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<v Speaker 1>career to make me a part of the titleist organization,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a huge part of my development. And and

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<v Speaker 1>you know when I met you. You kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd just come. I just moved back to I moved

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<v Speaker 1>to Austin to work at the Austin Golf Club for

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<v Speaker 1>a year. I'd been on the European Tour for like

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<v Speaker 1>three or four years. And you know, you were this

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<v Speaker 1>person that had all of this new information. You were

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<v Speaker 1>really the one that kind of introduced me to TPI.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that introduced me to Greg and Dave, and

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<v Speaker 1>through you know, getting to know them, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of pushed all in on that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of whole body swing connection.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the difference because most golf structures either have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of experience from plan or just a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>experience just connecting dots over the years. What Dave and

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<v Speaker 2>Greg were able to do basically and maybe fifteen seconds

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<v Speaker 2>was diagnosed as only basically hack what you needed to

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<v Speaker 2>do to work on your swing.

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<v Speaker 1>To what they were doing and what is now normal

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<v Speaker 1>in golf instruction, it's normal now twenty twenty three, correct,

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<v Speaker 1>But they were really kind of coming up with life

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<v Speaker 1>hacks for and I've talked about this, you know, on

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<v Speaker 1>the pod before. I've talked about that. I've had Greg

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<v Speaker 1>or Dave on a couple of times, and I'm all

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<v Speaker 1>about this too. You know, the idea that when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at a player, and even a player, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we look at players, you know, from an instruction standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>But there are so many people listening to this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>that are trying to self diagnose their own game. Right

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to figure out how to hit the golf

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<v Speaker 1>ball better, how to hit the golf ball straighter, how

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<v Speaker 1>to hit the golf ball further more solid, whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>fix is. And some of the life hacks that I

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<v Speaker 1>think the guys at TPI came up with were, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not doing something in your golf swing, there's gut.

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<v Speaker 1>It's two things. It's concept problem in that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand the concept of what you're trying to do. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think most golfers that are playing a lot and

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<v Speaker 1>practicing a lot, I think i'd say they have a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea of the concept that they're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think most people that are playing golfer slicers of

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<v Speaker 1>the golf ball, I think most people have a fairly

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<v Speaker 1>decent understanding. In twenty twenty three, with all the information

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<v Speaker 1>that is readily available through social media on the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can kind of come up with a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good game plan if you're a slicer, just off

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<v Speaker 1>of going and watching YouTube videos and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you come up with a pretty good game plan on

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<v Speaker 1>what you need to do to try and draw the

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<v Speaker 1>golf ball. I mean, there are a ton of videos

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<v Speaker 1>that you can go online, which was a tune which

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't around in two thousand and four. I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>content that is available now. I think for the regular

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<v Speaker 1>golfer that is just trying to lower their handicap is

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<v Speaker 1>we've never had that much information. But what I do

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<v Speaker 1>think is that one of the things that the average

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<v Speaker 1>golfer doesn't think of is Okay, could there be something

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<v Speaker 1>that is limiting me from a physical standpoint that isn't

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<v Speaker 1>allowing me to do the concept that I'm trying to do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I used to put a lot of stuff out,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why I do not put last stuff a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff out because you have to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to physically do the thing you're trying to do. And

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<v Speaker 2>you maybe just bang your head against the wall because

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<v Speaker 2>you can't lay the chaft down because your right shoulder

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<v Speaker 2>neck doesn't work like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's important that I'll you know, specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in twenty twenty three, social media a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people are getting their golf instruction information and info data,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever theories, it's coming from social media, it's coming from

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<v Speaker 1>people making videos. But I think it's it's what you

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<v Speaker 1>said is really important. You've got to understand first and

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<v Speaker 1>foremost what your body can and can't do right based

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<v Speaker 1>off of the things that you're trying to get your

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<v Speaker 1>body to do to swing the golf club.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can go through trial and error, and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean to years. I think what Dave and Greg were

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<v Speaker 2>able to do in a minute it was diagnosed everything

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<v Speaker 2>and come up with the corres corresponding plan to fix everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's the heck. And I've been doing that

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<v Speaker 2>since I think got certified officially two thousand and eight,

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<v Speaker 2>all three levels, but I think they started a programming

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and six, but I was doing that before

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<v Speaker 2>I got certified.

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<v Speaker 1>So for people listening that haven't been screened and haven't

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<v Speaker 1>gone through and by.

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<v Speaker 2>The way, this is all this is applayers with all sports

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<v Speaker 2>not too right. So even if you're a baseball player,

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<v Speaker 2>there are certain things that your body cannot do and

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<v Speaker 2>pre emulating a certain picture or a batting style. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing. And I think that's very relatable to

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of a lot of golfers that played other sports. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't successful in football because I couldn't do this,

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<v Speaker 2>or I wasn't big enough or fast enough. Well, we

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<v Speaker 2>can train for speed, we can we can screen your power,

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<v Speaker 2>we can do all this stuff, and we can hack

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<v Speaker 2>into why it's happening or why it's not happening, and

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<v Speaker 2>that can make your program or you're lesson got much

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<v Speaker 2>more efficient.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously we live in the lesson world. We live

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<v Speaker 1>in the instruction world. But there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people listening to this podcast that don't have a golf

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<v Speaker 1>instructor that they see on a regular basis. Right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are going to a driving range,

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to the golf course. But I would say

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<v Speaker 1>I think a large percentage of people listening are not

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<v Speaker 1>in the world that we're in. They don't have a trainer,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have someone to screen them, they don't really

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<v Speaker 1>work with someone on a regular basis from a golf standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>from an instruction standpoint. So for that person. What are

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<v Speaker 1>some things that they can do? What are some of

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<v Speaker 1>these life hacks that you could give someone that's a

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<v Speaker 1>mid handicap golfer, you know, a ten to twenty handicap

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<v Speaker 1>golfer who's just trying to break ninety eighty for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, maybe break par for the first time. But

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<v Speaker 1>that mid range golfer who's just trying to break eighty

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time, who's just trying to break ninety,

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<v Speaker 1>who's trying to break one hundred, what are some things

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<v Speaker 1>that they can do on their own, without an instructor,

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<v Speaker 1>without a trainer, without all of the stuff that they

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<v Speaker 1>see the player have.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, this is kind of the greatest challenge for the industry, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So first and foremost, you don't have to have your

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<v Speaker 2>best stuff to score your best I think that is

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<v Speaker 2>a realization that some professionals are just not understanding, right,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning that you're able to break eighty, and maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't drive it well the day that day, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>able to get around through short game. We're putting, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so you've got to be able to almost be able

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<v Speaker 2>to rank what you have on a great putter. I

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<v Speaker 2>need to set myself up for some great putts, meaning

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<v Speaker 2>I need to get on the green with every.

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<v Speaker 1>Chip right, regardless of how far away from the hole.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care if you've got a wedging you hand

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<v Speaker 2>in your ten handicap, you should be able to hit

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<v Speaker 2>the green more than ninety percent of the time if

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<v Speaker 2>you know how far you are and what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>yardage you can hit that witch right. I don't care

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<v Speaker 2>what it looks like swing way. And so for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm very as you know, I'm very systematic in

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<v Speaker 2>my approach.

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<v Speaker 1>Systematic. I mean you're systematic in every approach of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't just give it to golf. I mean you're the

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate process.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always trying to hack and systematize and everything. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you go out and block practice and

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<v Speaker 2>find a favorite wedge number right, then that should be

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<v Speaker 2>a go to wedge number.

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<v Speaker 1>So how does a player do that? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So I like to basically start backwards. So I'd rather

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<v Speaker 2>you have a whatever swing it is, like a shoulder

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<v Speaker 2>to shoulder swing, or like at ten o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine to three or whatever. If you're in the clock through,

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<v Speaker 1>waist high back, waistide through. I think I think a

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<v Speaker 1>good wedge distance kind of baseline is if you take

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<v Speaker 1>the golf club back, you know, think about your hand position.

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<v Speaker 1>Your hands are, you're standing in the dial of a clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Your head's at twelve o'clock, your hands are at six o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>So if your hands kind of went to that waist

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<v Speaker 1>high position, we would call at nine o'clock on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the dial if you're a right handed golfer, and

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<v Speaker 1>then three o'clock on the follow through. So I've always

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<v Speaker 1>thought that that's a really good baseline to say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>waist tied back, waist tied through with my lob wedge,

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<v Speaker 1>my sand wedge, my pitching wedge, whatever that is, go

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<v Speaker 1>whatever distance, go that. So how many balls do you

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<v Speaker 1>think someone could could come up with and use it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think everybody. I think the majority of

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<v Speaker 1>golfers now have a rangefinder, right, So go out on

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<v Speaker 1>a range, find a target that is fifty yards, well backtrack.

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<v Speaker 2>To break eighty or to break ninety, you got to

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<v Speaker 2>have some level of short game propiciency and you can't

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<v Speaker 2>make the big mistakes right. So for me, it's really

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<v Speaker 2>easy for a player to just learn the small shots first,

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<v Speaker 2>the putting, the pitch shots, the bump and runs, the

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<v Speaker 2>punch shots. You have to have an understanding of how

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<v Speaker 2>far you hit those shots, and for me to systematize it,

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<v Speaker 2>find those numbers nine o'clock to three o'clock, right, ten o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>one o'clock, whatever your numbers are, make those religious and

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<v Speaker 2>apply those to the course. So if you if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a number with like a nine o'clock swing that you've

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<v Speaker 2>found basically by hitting no thirty balls to no target, like,

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<v Speaker 2>just work on the position, the distance of the swing

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<v Speaker 2>the lane.

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<v Speaker 1>So take the target out of the ear. Take the

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<v Speaker 1>target out, because I do think that golfers are so

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<v Speaker 1>outcome oriented, they're so target oriented, that as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>we implement a target, then the golf swing they're making.

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<v Speaker 2>Would we ever teach a quarterback to throw to the five,

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<v Speaker 2>the ten, the fifteen, the twenty, when you're six years old,

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<v Speaker 2>we teach them to throw.

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<v Speaker 1>It tennis, all you're trying to do for a beginning

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<v Speaker 1>tennis player is just have them get the ball over

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<v Speaker 1>the net, having them put it in a specific place

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<v Speaker 1>on the court. You're not having them go down the line,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not have them go cross coreps, or you're not

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<v Speaker 1>hitting into the squares. All you're trying to do is

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<v Speaker 1>just say okay, yep, get the ball consistently over the net.

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<v Speaker 2>So head to a space, use your range finder and

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<v Speaker 2>laser the center of the space, the spread of your balls.

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<v Speaker 2>What is that number eighty five? Even if it's not

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<v Speaker 2>exactly eighty five, it's a generalization. And that's like your

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<v Speaker 2>favorite position. Let's say it's a kind of a shoulder

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<v Speaker 2>to shoulder fifty sixty three ways, use eighty five yards, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Take that number and make it religious right. So when

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<v Speaker 2>you have a target that's ninety yards, don't hit it

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<v Speaker 2>ninety hit it eighty five, get it on the green.

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<v Speaker 2>You got five yards fifteen feet, hut it out done.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you can do that with three or four wedges.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we have three or four numbers, maybe you can

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<v Speaker 2>add a different length swing. Now we have eight numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really pledge this and pursue this with the

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<v Speaker 2>juniors and pros that I woke with. It's like, what

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<v Speaker 2>are your numbers? And if they don't have an answer,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>large majority of golfers and a large majority of people

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this podcast fundamentally have no idea how far

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<v Speaker 1>they hit. They really hit their golf clubs, their golf

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<v Speaker 1>ball consistently. And that's where I've talked about this in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. I think, wouldn't you agree we are so

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<v Speaker 1>influenced by television because the average golfer watches who's big

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<v Speaker 1>into golf? They watch a lot of golf on TV. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>They spend an enormous time on the weekend watching golf,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they're influence and spy that, right. You know, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know John Wood? You know they throw it down.

0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.000
<v Speaker 1>The NBC guys throw it down to John Wood, the

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<v Speaker 1>CBS guys throw it down to Dottie or Colt or

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<v Speaker 1>any of the on course guys. Is say what's he

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<v Speaker 1>got and they spin out on a par three, or

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<v Speaker 1>if someone's laid up, they spit out a number. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got one oh five and he's going to hit

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<v Speaker 1>this club. And I do think that a lot of golfers.

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<v Speaker 1>When they are playing golfer, they're on the range, they

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<v Speaker 1>take those numbers as if those are the numbers that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to hit that club.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but I I've had this conversation many times. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like you're watching Pat Mahomes, he scrambles, throws the dime

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<v Speaker 2>to one of his receivers, and that fan of the

0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:48.520
<v Speaker 2>game thinks they can go do that on the football

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<v Speaker 2>field the next day. And a golfer thinks they can

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<v Speaker 2>be Jordan Speed. He hits a wedge to from one

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<v Speaker 2>oh five to ten feet all day on Sunday because

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<v Speaker 2>he's playing great, he's on TV, and they think that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they need to do. There's no chance that that

0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:10.679
<v Speaker 2>type of basic fan of the game can throw the

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<v Speaker 2>ball like Pat Mahlmes.

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<v Speaker 1>Or shoot a three point air like Steph Curry, or

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<v Speaker 1>take a free kick like Leonel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo

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<v Speaker 1>or any other sport. Why do you think that golfers

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<v Speaker 1>unlike any I mean, we all marvel when we watch,

0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:28.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever your sport is, whether it's football, where

0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:34.359
<v Speaker 1>it's basketball, baseball, cricket, rugby, you know soccer, which I

0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:39.280
<v Speaker 1>call football. But there's no other sport to where people

0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:43.800
<v Speaker 1>fundamentally believe that they are. They're thirty five years old,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a regular job that they think they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to go out and do the identical

0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:52.280
<v Speaker 1>same things that Lebron does. But all of these great athletes,

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<v Speaker 1>but for some reason in golf, we all think that, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's I have a theory that I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>because it's very very hard for if you love let's

0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:07.040
<v Speaker 1>say you love American football, it's very hard to actually

0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:11.520
<v Speaker 1>ever play. You can't. You can't get a team. You

0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:13.840
<v Speaker 1>can't get your own team and then go get another

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<v Speaker 1>team and then go to a regular sized football put

0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.679
<v Speaker 1>all the pads on. Get how about this?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't call any read and say, hey, can you

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<v Speaker 2>tell me how to play like Pat Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, can't do it right. So why do you think

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it's because you can go to the

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<v Speaker 1>same golf course. Let's say we live in South Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>They have you know they you know they up until

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<v Speaker 1>this year they had to Honda here. Every year we

0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:41.399
<v Speaker 1>could go to PG National. We could go on the

0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:45.240
<v Speaker 1>weekend and watch someone play the bear trap, you know,

0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:51.200
<v Speaker 1>hit it in the water on fifteen bogie sixteen, bogie seventeen,

0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.679
<v Speaker 1>bogie eighteen, and then you could go play from the

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<v Speaker 1>same tees and somehow make a par on a hole

0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:00.639
<v Speaker 1>where they made a bogie or make birdy on a

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<v Speaker 1>hole where they made up. Do you think, because the

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<v Speaker 1>rules of golf are unlike any other that you can

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<v Speaker 1>go play the same venues from the same teest and

0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.399
<v Speaker 1>there's that suspension of disbelief that you go play a

0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:17.600
<v Speaker 1>part you could play golf with. You could go play

0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:20.960
<v Speaker 1>golf with Rory McElroy and he could make a bogie.

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<v Speaker 1>You could be a fifteen twenty handicapper and make a par,

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<v Speaker 1>somehow sneak it in there, make a par, and the

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<v Speaker 1>belief system is, oh, we're playing the same game. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're not. And I think that most golfers, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about this enormously, you know, add nauseum on

0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 1>the pod is I think a lot of golf for

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<v Speaker 1>regular golfers. And to me, regular golfers are ninety nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent right. The people that you're watching that are competitive golfers,

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<v Speaker 1>they make up very I don't know what them, but

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind, they make up one percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>people that are going to play this momme right, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when the golfers that you're watching on television right. So

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I've talked about this so much. I think

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone listening, managing their expectations, but understanding what it

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<v Speaker 1>is that you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, find some reality, know what you have. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>fifty six becues eighty five instead of Jordan Spieth's one five,

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<v Speaker 2>that's your number, right. If you can carry your driver

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<v Speaker 2>maybe two thirty. It's not gonna go three hundred, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And the uh that's It's a big part of the

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 2>industry is tackling that from from a wide from a

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<v Speaker 2>wide view.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also think it's incumbent upon the player. My

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 1>dad's always said, check your ego at the door when

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<v Speaker 1>you go to the golf course, of the driving way,

0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:51.239
<v Speaker 1>for sure of your ego in the car. And I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that if everyone listening had a more honest approach,

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<v Speaker 1>but an honest evaluation of what their strengths, but all

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<v Speaker 1>so what their weaknesses are. What do you think is

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<v Speaker 1>a good kind of golf life hack for players to

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<v Speaker 1>find what they're good at? Right? Because I mean, we've

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 1>got driving, we've got irons, we've got short game and

0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:16.359
<v Speaker 1>then we've got putting right, and then you want to

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 1>throw in course management. But to me, those are the

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<v Speaker 1>five areas. Sure, you know, because if you look at

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:25.200
<v Speaker 1>what we're looking at from a tour standpoint or from

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<v Speaker 1>a competitive standpoint, I'm looking at how Brooks DJ, the

0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:32.919
<v Speaker 1>players that I work with, Brooks DJ, Pat Perez, Marine Alex.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at how they drive the ball. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at what their iron game is like. You know, from

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the tour standpoint, we're looking at short irons, mid irons,

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:45.680
<v Speaker 1>long irons. Then we're looking at short game, then we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at putting, and then we're looking at course management.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me some you know, basic life hacks that a

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>ten to twenty handicapper can use in their practice. It

0:24:56.880 --> 0:25:01.399
<v Speaker 1>can help them evaluate what elements of those five things

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<v Speaker 1>are good at and what elements of those five things

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:05.359
<v Speaker 1>they're not good. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've covered chork in right putting the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, give yourself three feet, make a circle,

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<v Speaker 2>knock them all out. You need to be one from

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<v Speaker 2>three feet right. I don't care want your handicappings right,

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 2>break it out six feet, ten feet. Maybe i'd find

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<v Speaker 2>out what your percentages are. Use ten balls make it easy, right,

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Just give yourself some level of expectation. Don't look at

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:34.360
<v Speaker 2>the tour stats. What's what's your stats?

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>And also, I think the average goal for vastly overestimates

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:45.720
<v Speaker 1>how good tour players are, right, because they think they

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:51.920
<v Speaker 1>think every fifteen footer. The percentages show that a tour

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 1>player should make every fifteen footer, so they get a

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>fifteen footer, whether it's for par, whether it's for bogie,

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:00.919
<v Speaker 1>whether it's for double weather, it's for bird or whatever.

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 1>They I think the average golfer thinks, Okay, if I

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 1>miss a fifteen footer, I'm a terrible putter. What is it?

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 1>What is? It's right around seven to eight feet On

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.399
<v Speaker 1>the PGA Tour, it goes fifty to fifty, right, that's

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>right inside of I think seven feet. The numbers incrementally

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 1>make wise go up the closer you get. But it's

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:26.400
<v Speaker 1>right around that seven to eight foot mark where it's

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 1>fifty to fifty on the PGA Tour. The best of

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 1>the best or half the time they make and half

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the time they miss.

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Right, So start with butting, start with chipping too. You

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 2>know eight foot circle you did inside eight f circle?

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I don't even think eight feet. I think if

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>you know you can get it inside a ten foot circle, right,

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.200
<v Speaker 1>if you could just around the greens, regardless of how

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 1>close you are two flag distances right now, two flag distance,

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>you could just say, okay, let me get this anywhere

0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>inside of ten feet. Yep. If you're a fifteen handicapper,

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:06.439
<v Speaker 1>if you're a twenty handicapper and every chip shot you

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 1>have gets somewhere inside of a ten foot I'd even

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 1>go fifteen foot circle. You are going to be gaining massively. Correct,

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you're gaining strokes.

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Let's put you in six times out of ten balls, right, yeah, right,

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:24.400
<v Speaker 2>and then take that to a full or swing. Irons

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 2>create boundaries, whether you use like a name point little

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 2>two fingers, how many times can you get it through

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 2>the field goal?

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 2>When you're practicing basketball, you know if it goes in

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 2>the hoop or not. But when we're hitting golf balls

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 2>to a random target, we're thinking about, hey, is it solid,

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 2>which way to it go left or right?

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 1>While was the curve? Just get it? Then the uprights. Yeah,

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>if you've got a golf course where if you've got

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>a driving range where you practice and they have greens,

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>those are awesome, Like if you're lucky enough to have

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>a drive I know not everybody listening has that, but

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:00.880
<v Speaker 1>if you're lucky enough to have a driving range that

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>has flags on a green rather than I think what

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody does, regardless of their handicap level, is they go

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>to the driving range. If they've got a a target

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's on a green. They're aiming at the target,

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>but they're not just trying to say, okay, whatever that distance,

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 1>let's say it's one hundred one hundred yards away, let

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>me just hit ten balls and just hit the green.

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Don't even worry about where the target is. Correct. Wait,

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>if you've got a.

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Twenty yards wide, maybe yeah, maybe it's two trees in

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 2>the distance. Chimneys like here, the.

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Two flags whatever. Give yourself barriers, barriers on either side,

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>like a soccer goal, like a football goal, like a

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>rugby goal. Give yourself barriers on either side, and say, okay.

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>You know it's a thing that we say a lot

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>in They say this a lot in hockey, they say

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>this a lot in soccer slash football. If a hockey

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>player is close to the goal, if a footballer is

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.479
<v Speaker 1>close to the goal, they always say, make the keeper

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>make a safe hit the target right, regardless of whether

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>you're going high, whether you're going low. Make the goalie

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>make a safe regardless of where that is. And I

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>think if that concept, you say to yourself, Okay, I

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>just need to hit the target, and let's make the

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>target big to begin with, and then start to shrink

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 1>it after I get proficient at hitting the target.

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 2>But then once you achieve all these segments from putting

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 2>to full swing to driver whatever, you have a base

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 2>level of expectation.

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 2>If you take that expectation to the course, now, you're

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 2>not going to get upset when something goes wrong. And

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a huge part of this. People have

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 2>these expectations of a tour player. They can't back it up.

0:29:57.480 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 2>They lose focus.

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Shots one that they don't they've never practiced correct that

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>they've never done on a driving range. Now when they're

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>on the course playing the game, they're going to try

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>something that is going to have a significant effect on

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>their score, which is the object of playing golf is

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>your score, yep.

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 2>And if you've been just working on hand position for

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 2>two hours, then you go to play nine holes and

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to work on hand position during the nine holes,

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 2>probably not going to score your best, much better off

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of testing yourself either in the warm up before

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 2>the round. Get it through the gates, get it through

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 2>the targets, make them from three feet, make them five

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 2>give yourself hard specific data, a system that you will

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 2>that you can apply to the course. Now your expectations

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>are grounded. Now you can play eighteen holes, face the challenges,

0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:00.120
<v Speaker 2>play the game and you're not getting upset over and

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 2>some sort of simple shower or some imperfect swinger whatever.

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 1>What handicap range would you say is you need to

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>be below this handicap range to actually aim at specific pins.

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>So you've got you know, you've got.

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 2>To be a loaded question based on what we did

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 2>last week.

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Right, you've got eighteen holes, right, and you've got eighteen greens.

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Give me a for you. You've been doing this, you know,

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you've been teaching as long as I have. What is

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>your threshold for you need to be this handicap or

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>lower for you to as a player to be aiming

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>at pins as opposed to just trying to get it

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>on the green.

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I would say zero handicap, get it on the green.

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>So you need to be a scratch golfer.

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 2>You need to be a scratch golfer.

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>To be going at specific targets on a green yep.

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 2>And you know one of the Brooks stories is the

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 2>four or five hole in US test.

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've talked about that on the pod before.

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 2>And if you go out and play a four or

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 2>five holes, you're playing great. You've got maybe a green light.

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 2>And for me when i'm coaching, you've got a green

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>light from maybe one or two pins that are perfect scenarios,

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 2>perfect numbers, perfect registances, whatever, perfect side of the green.

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>That's it.

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 2>And like at a major, zero pins, for Brooks at

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 2>a regular event, maybe four or five maybe maybe right,

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 2>and then if he gets if he's too aggressive, he

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 2>backs it off, right. I think it's a scratch in

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 2>a cap.

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>So if you're a five, I.

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Will give you a green light, but you won't.

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>But the green light would only be man.

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be one perfect scenario scenario per round, and.

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>It's probably going to be with a club that you

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>can control. So it's probably for let's say you're a

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>if you're a five, ten, fifteen handicapper, it's probably going

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>to be a scoring club.

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Your objective is to eliminate the mistakes off the tee,

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 2>the mistakes entered the green and just get out of

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 2>there every hole. That's what's pointing. That's how we play

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 2>the game right. And if you're making these decisions going

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 2>after pens and you don't have the right numbers, you're

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 2>not gonna perform, well, you're not gonna score.

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, well you were, you were part of you were

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>giving a lesson last week when when Brooks was here

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 1>with and I talked about this on the pod last

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 1>week with Boggle Laro, the kid that's trying to play professionally,

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>and one of the things that you I'd forgotten that

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Brooks said this, but you messaged me this, yep, and

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I remembered it. You said, Brooks said to Boggle, I

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>am ten times more disciplined.

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 2>It's how I opened the conversation than you are.

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>And then you will ever be on the golf course

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>with regards to they were asked targets, club selection, go

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>no go green light versus light and he was like

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>and and I forgot to mention this in the pod

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 1>when I was talking about it, but I thought that

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>was fascinating that Brooks was like, I am more disciplined

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.280
<v Speaker 1>than you are. And I'm one of the best players

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 1>in the world, and I've won five major championships and

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>have been number one in the world. I'm more disciplined

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>at picking conservative targets than you are.

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.280
<v Speaker 2>And what does discipline mean? I mean, it's basically meaning

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 2>that he knows his game that day, that and minted

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 2>better than anyone else in the world other than maybe

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Ricky is caddy. Yeah, and implying that nobody else has

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 2>that level of awareness and discipline in the room that

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 2>day for sure, and a majority of professionals.

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>So how do we how do how does a fifteen

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty handicapper go on the golf course and have discipline

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to not go what we call I mean, And again

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I keep going back to this. I think it's so

0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>much television bias. Yes, I mean, he can go flag

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>hunting here, Johnny, he can go flag hunt here. This

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>is a green light pin. If you're a fifteen handicapper.

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.399
<v Speaker 1>There are no green light pints. No, there are no

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>green light pints.

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:15.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't okay, I but it's your perfect redge number.

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Just get it on the green find the center of safety,

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 2>put it there, right. We have if you're a fifteen handicapper,

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:26.360
<v Speaker 2>you probably have top problems with alignment, Bob posishan whatever

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 2>before we even get to the technical part. So you

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 2>got to knock out all that stuff first, right, you

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 2>gotta have an expectation that, hey, I just got seven

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 2>out of ten within eighty five yards when I was

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 2>warming up. I've got a pen at ninety. I'm not

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 2>going to try to hit a ninety. I'm going to

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 2>hit it eighty five. And you have a seventy percent chance,

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:48.399
<v Speaker 2>based on what you did earlier, to hit that job.

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:52.840
<v Speaker 1>And I also think that people forget. The average golfer

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>forgets that unless you are lucky enough to be a

0:35:56.280 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 1>member at a very elite, tournament style golf course, right,

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a very elite The majority of golfers

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 1>play golf on greens that aren't running thirteen. They're not

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:19.240
<v Speaker 1>rock hard, the rough isn't massively up. The greens don't

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>have the undulation that we see at places like Augusta

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>or a major championship. So the greens it's a general station.

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>But I think most people play golf courses where the

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 1>greens are relatively flat because the majority of the greens

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>that they're going to play. They might have some subtle slopes,

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>but they're not going to have the slope that you know,

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 1>the first green at Augusta has to where if they

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>put the pin in certain positions, there's no way to

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 1>actually even get at those positions. The greens are massively

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>there's false fronts, there's a lot of rof, there's a lot.

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Of nobody plays. Nobody plays golf like that.

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.919
<v Speaker 1>Most people don't play golf like that, and they're never

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>going to play golf like understand golf like that. So right,

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>you're lucky in that you're not a fifteen handicapper and

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:11.719
<v Speaker 1>your home course is Augusta National, because you'd quit if

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>you had to play Augusta National every day because the

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>golf course is just too hard if you had to

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>play you know, TPC Sawgrass where they play the Players Championship.

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean that golf course is next to impossible to

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:28.839
<v Speaker 1>play for tour players when they set it up under

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>tournament conditions. So I think most golfers are lucky in

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 1>that they play golf courses that they can just basically

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>should scorable. If you do have the discipline to say, listen,

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:43.879
<v Speaker 1>let me just get it anywhere off the tee.

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 2>And make sure you choose the right tea to begin with.

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Sure, So how do you give a life hack golf

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 1>life hack to for everyone listening? How do you go

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 1>about that? How do you choose the teas you play?

0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Because everybody wants to play.

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Let's start simple with if you're a junior, play all

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 2>the way up and take and break par and then

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:04.879
<v Speaker 2>you work your way back to the next team. Can

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 2>you break par from there?

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 1>And if you're a fifteen handicapper, if you want to

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:13.359
<v Speaker 1>go back and play the back teas because you want

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>to be you want to feel like a trope, you

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:18.279
<v Speaker 1>want to feel like you're a player, blah blah. But

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 1>until you can consistently yeah, I think you know. If

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to break eighty for the first time, rather

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 1>than do it from the tea box that you want

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>to play, go to the go to the forward, t

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>the furthest shop tree. Historically that has been the Ladies

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 1>team whatever whatever, now different colors, whatever, but you know, red, white, blue, whatever.

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Go to the front, go as far up as you

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>can and try and break. If you're trying to break

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 1>hundred for the first time, go to the furthest forward

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 1>t and try and break.

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Trys how fun it is, right, And if you put

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:01.799
<v Speaker 2>it like that is a raised from those teas and

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 2>we're covering distance right as fast as you can, and

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 2>it's a race. And when you play from the wrong

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:11.240
<v Speaker 2>tea or the furthest tea back and you're just making

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:15.359
<v Speaker 2>that race so much more toughly. Yeah, right, And.

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's I mean, to me, if you're if you're

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:22.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to play golf from further back than you should,

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.399
<v Speaker 1>to me, it's the equivalent of trying to climb Mount

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Everest and basically starting at the bottom and just thinking

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you're just going to climb all the way to the top.

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 1>You're not going to Camp one and then not go

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 1>So to me, the tea boxes are like climbing Mount Everest.

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.919
<v Speaker 1>Go to the front and just try and get acclimated

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>at Camp one, which is the furthest forward tee, and

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>once you get comfortable there, once you feel like you

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>can kind of make good rational decisions there, get acclimated,

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 1>get kind of in a good place, then you say, okay,

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Camp two is one tee further back. And if you're

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to break I mean, I think that's that's a

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 1>great way to think about it. Right, If you're trying

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>to break one hundreds for the first time, go to

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the forward t go to the closest possible, the shortest

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>distance the golf course can be played from, and see it.

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 1>If you can break a hundred.

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 2>From the surprise, how much funny you would have.

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:16.759
<v Speaker 1>You would have a lot of fun because there would

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.399
<v Speaker 1>be a lot of par fours that you could get

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>two and two. As opposed to saying, listen, I can't

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 1>even get to this par four and two because I

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:27.799
<v Speaker 1>just don't hit it far enough, you could probably get

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to half of the par threes you might be able

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to get. You know, if you're playing a golf course

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 1>where there's four par threes, you might let's see, if

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>you could get to one of them, you might have

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:41.839
<v Speaker 1>a legend of two of them. Would say, but if

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 1>you could just hit one of the greens, yes, out

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:47.280
<v Speaker 1>of the four, as opposed to missing all of them, Yes,

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 1>that's a gain, that's a win. You're making progress, big

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>time progress. So consistently breaking one hundred, consistently breaking ninety,

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>consistently breaking from a variety of different tees, I think

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 1>is a really good baseline instead of stand, instead of

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 1>just going, okay, it's your course. You've got. Let's say

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you've just got red, blue, and white. Right, go to

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:18.399
<v Speaker 1>the red, see what your score is. Next time you play,

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>go to the white, see what your score is. Go

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 1>all the way back, see what your score is. If

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 1>you do that, I think you'd have a pretty good

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.840
<v Speaker 1>idea of the tees that you should be playing. Shared.

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have some perspective, some data.

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm guessing you're probably going to shoot lower scores

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>from the more forward tees and you're probably going to

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 1>shoot exponentially worse from the back tees. Correct, and then

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 1>figure out where you need to be based off of that.

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, when you and I go out and play,

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:55.239
<v Speaker 1>we never I mean I hate playing golf from all

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>the way back. Yes, I mean it's brutal for me

0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 1>because I don't hit the golf ball far enough right,

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:02.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I mean, what here at the flow, what's

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 1>sneaky speed? You know? But I mean if we play

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:06.719
<v Speaker 1>all the way back here at the flow, what is

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 1>seventy one hundred seventy one hundred?

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 2>You play some of the unmarkedees? Yea, right?

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 1>And so on days that it's windy, there were going

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:17.359
<v Speaker 1>to be par four's. Where if I hit a good

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 1>drop five hundred yards, Yeah, our ninth hole is five

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.279
<v Speaker 1>hundred yards. If I'm playing that from the back t

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 1>and I bust a driver like I might be able

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 1>to hit it to eighty. I mean, if I really

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>catch one, it's rolling out to two ninety. But you

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 1>know me, I'm bad at math. That's to eighty. That's

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna leave me a lot. I wouldn't have got that right.

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:45.280
<v Speaker 1>But you're now I've got two twenty, which is hybrid?

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Which hybrid? I'm trying to bust a three wood. I'm

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 1>terrible at hitting three.

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:50.479
<v Speaker 2>With the wind.

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Right, who's getting h The prevailing wind is normally the

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>on our ninth hole, right, So I've urt. Whereas if

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I play it from sixty, So we've got four t's

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 1>at the flow right are five? Yep? Okay, so let's

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 1>see five t is it's the shortest. So let's say

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:11.839
<v Speaker 1>I played five. Let's say I played it from the

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:15.920
<v Speaker 1>three tep. So a hole that is five hundred yards

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>now is I think it's four hundred four hundred, right,

0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:24.879
<v Speaker 1>So it's one hundred yards in distance yes, right, But again,

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>if I hit my drive to seventy two sixty to

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 1>two seventy instead of doing that from all the way

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>back where now I'm looking at hitting three wood or

0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:37.279
<v Speaker 1>going I probably can't even get to the green here

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 1>if it's into the wind. I'm looking at a mid

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:43.399
<v Speaker 1>to a mid iron where I've got a much better

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 1>chance to get to the green for sure.

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 2>And that's more fun.

0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:51.399
<v Speaker 2>Who the hell practices three woods off the deck all

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 2>the time?

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:52.919
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't dour players at all.

0:43:55.480 --> 0:44:00.040
<v Speaker 1>No. Right, good golf life hack for figuring out the

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:03.319
<v Speaker 1>shape that you're trying to hit right to left, left

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:07.319
<v Speaker 1>to right. How does someone identify, regardless of their handicap level,

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 1>how do they identify what shape they should be trying

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 1>to hit?

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Well?

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 2>I think you got to go through our testing, right,

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 2>put us some barriers, put up a mark. We need

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:20.359
<v Speaker 2>to curve draws in there on the drive page. Yes,

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 2>on the drive wrench.

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Do it with a seven, nine iron, eight iron something

0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 1>that you know obviously the higher the loft, the harder

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 1>it is to curve the golf ball. I think kind

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:31.439
<v Speaker 1>of that eight iron to seven iron is a good

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 1>golf club to use. That is going to show you

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>whether you can curve the golf ball the way you

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>want to or not.

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:39.839
<v Speaker 2>It'll be solid practice, nonetheless, but you know you do

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.719
<v Speaker 2>ten draws, ten fades who went right?

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>And then so ten ten shots where you're trying to

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.399
<v Speaker 1>swing the golf club from out to in, which would

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.839
<v Speaker 1>be more of a fade shot. Ten golf balls where

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>it's trying to swing the golf club a little bit

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:54.799
<v Speaker 1>more pathwise from in to out, which would be more

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 1>of a draw shot. Yep, your ten balls, maybe twenty

0:44:57.600 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>if you want to push it and say, okay, out

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:03.360
<v Speaker 1>of these twenty, how many of them had the shape

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:05.439
<v Speaker 1>that I was trying to hit. If it's left to right,

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:09.360
<v Speaker 1>if it's right to left, just start there. And I

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.400
<v Speaker 1>think one of the things I think is important is

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and I don't care how you do about it, and

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 1>don't care how you do it, and don't have the

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 1>running commentary in your head on okay, well that was

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 1>too much. Can you move the golf ball left to right?

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Can you start it left of the target, have it

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 1>curve back to the right. Can you start it right

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:31.800
<v Speaker 1>of the target, have it curve back to the left,

0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and just get and then basically based off of that,

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:36.640
<v Speaker 1>you're probably going to have a good idea. I think

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the majority of golfers will struggle mid to high handicapped golfers,

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the majority of golfers, if they did that ten twenty

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:46.240
<v Speaker 1>balls trying to hit a fade, ten to twenty balls

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to hit a draw, they're going to struggle to

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>hit the draw.

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean they might do the exact opposite, right,

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 2>and I'd be trying to draw it and it's just

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 2>a push last every time.

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 1>So based off of that, what does a player do.

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 2>You gotta find the centers, fafety and hit it straight

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 2>at it and don't try to curve it.

0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 1>You got to find a level.

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 2>You got to have a base level of proficiency that

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 2>you can yourself believe in instead of the TV or whatever. Right,

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 2>bit's three out of ten draws, four out of ten fades.

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Then let's go play fade only off the tee, fade

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 2>only on the greens for nine holes and just see

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:24.960
<v Speaker 2>what happened. Right.

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I think so many people are unwilling to actually go

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 1>out on the golf course. Something that you and I

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>have talked to our student. It's very difficult to go

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 1>out on the golf course. Bob Rotello wants you to

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:40.479
<v Speaker 1>go to the golf course with no swing thoughts, right,

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:43.759
<v Speaker 1>but he'll allow you to have one right right. And

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I've told you the story. We've you've seen it in action.

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Trevor Emmlman. You know we love Trevor. Too smart for golf,

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.280
<v Speaker 1>way too smart for golf, and one of my favorite

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 1>things about it, and would overthink and overanalyze. And Rotello said, listen,

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:01.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to go with any swing thoughts,

0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 1>but I'll give you one. And Trevor was dying. This

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:06.279
<v Speaker 1>is like four, We're at the Masters, and Trevor's like,

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 1>there's no way I can play golf with just one

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 1>swing thought. And Rotella wants you to take one swing

0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:16.279
<v Speaker 1>thought right and keep it the entire round, which is

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:20.839
<v Speaker 1>very difficult commit. So my point being to go play

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:25.880
<v Speaker 1>nine holes and commit to just hitting one shape, whatever

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that shape is, right, But do the test on the

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.399
<v Speaker 1>range and say, Okay, it's easier for me. It's hard

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 1>for me to draw it. I tend to slice the

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 1>golf ball, right. I think most people listening will fall

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 1>into that category. They tend to slice the golf ball. Okay,

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:41.920
<v Speaker 1>So go play nine holes and play for that shape,

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 1>play for that miss, play for the ball to go

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:47.799
<v Speaker 1>left to right, adjust your aim, and don't try and

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:49.439
<v Speaker 1>go to the golf course and hit a draw which

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:52.279
<v Speaker 1>you aren't able to do on the driving rude. Just

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 1>go to the golf course say, okay, I'm gonna fade it,

0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 1>slice it around. I'm gonna slice it rather than fade it,

0:47:57.239 --> 0:47:59.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna slice the golf ball around the golf course

0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 1>to aim for that. Yes, bang on it right now.

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Football players, if they're injured, they understand what they have

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 2>that day and they go out and play anyway. You

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:12.279
<v Speaker 2>need to understand what you have that day and go

0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 2>out and play anyway and just commit right and try

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 2>to be perfect out there and try to hit every shape.

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I mean it's something I preach on the

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 1>pod all the time. I think for a regular golfer,

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 1>just have one shape. You don't need to hit the

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 1>golf ball high, you don't need to hit the golf bowl,

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you don't need to have all of these tools in

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:37.960
<v Speaker 1>your toolbox. You just need a hammer. And if you've

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:41.839
<v Speaker 1>got a hammer, you can hammer in a nail yep. Right,

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 1>And then if you can just every time you see

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a nail and you've got a hammer, and you can

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:50.919
<v Speaker 1>just hammer that nail in perfect perfect Now to do

0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 1>other things, to do advanced carpentry, but you could have

0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 1>a hammer and some nails and some wood, you can

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 1>do something and you could make something. Yes, with just

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:05.760
<v Speaker 1>a hammer and just some nails, not screws, nut saws.

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 1>You could put together some pieces of wood that could

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 1>make something right. And if you could think about just

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:17.200
<v Speaker 1>going out and trying to play nine holes and saying, listen,

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:20.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna hit the golf ball with the swing

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:24.239
<v Speaker 1>that I've got this direction for nine holes on every

0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:26.520
<v Speaker 1>shot that's not going to aim at targets.

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 2>Great example discipline right there.

0:49:28.840 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't care where it is on the fairway, whether

0:49:31.120 --> 0:49:33.360
<v Speaker 1>it's on the left side, the right side, the middle,

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:39.279
<v Speaker 1>just anywhere in the fairway, anywhere on the green, add

0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:41.600
<v Speaker 1>up what you shoot and get out of there. Because

0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:43.719
<v Speaker 1>if you could do that right, I think, wouldn't you

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 1>agree if you could do that, if you could just

0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:48.959
<v Speaker 1>go out and say okay, let me get the ball

0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and play off the tee, and you could do that right.

0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>You just say okay, it might not be pretty, but

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I am getting the ball in play in the fairway,

0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:58.880
<v Speaker 1>off the tee, and then I'm not really aiming at

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:04.719
<v Speaker 1>any flags. I'm just basically hitting this anywhere on the green. Right.

0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:09.879
<v Speaker 1>If then you look at your score and you've got

0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 1>forty three putts, then you could say, Okay, maybe you

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:18.640
<v Speaker 1>need to just learn how to put better because you're

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:22.360
<v Speaker 1>hitting some fairways and you're hitting some greens, and okay,

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:24.440
<v Speaker 1>now maybe we need to go look at speed control.

0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we need to look at that. But again, I

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 1>think everybody looks at their golf game and thinks that

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 1>they need to have all of the shots, right. They

0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:33.960
<v Speaker 1>do not.

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Very few people in the world have all the shots.

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe Ernie ELS's peak, you saw it right, Tiger,

0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:43.880
<v Speaker 2>he had all the shots, you saw it in person.

0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Rory kind of. Rory has a lot of shots.

0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you Brooks doesn't have all the shots.

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Brooks kind of has that the shots that he have

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 2>man or might right, and he's very disciplined to use it.

0:50:56.880 --> 0:51:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Give me some contact hacks. I think something that I've

0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:03.319
<v Speaker 1>preached a show the contact Yeah. We had We had

0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:06.200
<v Speaker 1>an old show called Yeah we had a show that

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:08.799
<v Speaker 1>we put up on YouTube that years ago. It was

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>that fifteen years ago called the Contact Show, and nobody watched.

0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I will say this one year, one year? Is it

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the twenty eleven? We just it was right around that

0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 1>time we started the Contact Show, right, two thousand and eight,

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:25.759
<v Speaker 1>two thousand.

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:26.759
<v Speaker 2>And Joe Haiferic and China something around there.

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, we had the show called the Contact Show. And

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I was at the PGA at Atlanta Athletic Club. I

0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:35.880
<v Speaker 1>was getting my credential. My wife was with me, and

0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:37.640
<v Speaker 1>some guy came up to me. It was a club

0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:40.319
<v Speaker 1>pro and he said, big fan of the of the

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Contact Show. And my wife Lisa said, oh, you're the one.

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:48.760
<v Speaker 1>You're the one watcher. But contact, right, How do golfers

0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:52.520
<v Speaker 1>what are some easy life hacks that they can do

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to improve quality of strike and contact?

0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for putting, I need a gate, put it through

0:51:58.320 --> 0:51:58.600
<v Speaker 2>the gate.

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:02.200
<v Speaker 1>So the tiger, So the tiger drill. You put two

0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:05.040
<v Speaker 1>t's on either side of your putter, depending on how much,

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:08.000
<v Speaker 1>give yourself some room right on either side of the putter.

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:11.480
<v Speaker 1>So the toe, put a tea outside the toe, outside

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:11.839
<v Speaker 1>the heel.

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Target, no target, no target, and then begin to challenge

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:17.319
<v Speaker 2>yourself when you.

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Get to that, and just feel like you're give yourself

0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 1>no target. And let's say you're trying to hit a

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:25.440
<v Speaker 1>ten foot putt and see if you can control the

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 1>putter and the speed and the speed and have a saneness.

0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:34.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, one of the great drills that I like

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 1>to do is have someone in your mind do the

0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:41.560
<v Speaker 1>gate right, do the gate drill right. You're gonna give

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:43.359
<v Speaker 1>yourself room to hit the putter and then say, okay,

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I've got a ten foot putt. I'm gonna hit five balls,

0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 1>ten balls, and I'm going to see if all of

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 1>them kind of have a saneness to them, look the

0:52:54.680 --> 0:53:01.800
<v Speaker 1>same speed wise, give yourself a t walk out five steps,

0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:04.600
<v Speaker 1>ten steps, and say okay, I'm just gonna hit ten

0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:08.600
<v Speaker 1>balls and see if I'm I've got five balls or

0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:12.480
<v Speaker 1>ten balls that look somewhat similar to each other from

0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:17.200
<v Speaker 1>a speed standpoint, from a distant standpoint, from a dispersion standpoint. Yeah,

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I like that one. How much of putting contact wise

0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the way the club contacts the ball do you think

0:53:24.760 --> 0:53:29.680
<v Speaker 1>can be cured and you can benefit from by taking away.

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:34.680
<v Speaker 3>The target all of it, especially the higher they anicap.

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:39.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, no hole, you go to pop shroke, you

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:42.560
<v Speaker 3>go to miniature golf and get those little bullseye style putters.

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:46.600
<v Speaker 1>People hit those great shitty golf balls through the clown's

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 1>mouth and they get to the golf course, they got

0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:53.520
<v Speaker 1>your fancy spider putter and holes and brakes and maybe,

0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean sometimes it's slower than actual putt put golf

0:53:56.080 --> 0:53:58.680
<v Speaker 1>course and it's a complete freak out.

0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:02.000
<v Speaker 2>So make sure you gamify it a little bit too.

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:06.279
<v Speaker 2>And then for you know, for chipping, I preach even

0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 2>for pros, you got to have like a ten yard shot,

0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:11.799
<v Speaker 2>one that goes high, one that goes low. I don't

0:54:11.840 --> 0:54:14.960
<v Speaker 2>care what wedge it is. And usually hit a shot

0:54:14.960 --> 0:54:17.879
<v Speaker 2>the ghost ten yards and we're like like a soft,

0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:19.879
<v Speaker 2>kind of floppy type of shot. The ghost ten yards

0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:22.640
<v Speaker 2>stays within ten yards, and one that flies about ten

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 2>yards and rolls out.

0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:27.800
<v Speaker 1>However, far so life hack for players to hit the

0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:30.719
<v Speaker 1>golf ball with their ten yard wed shot. Easiest way

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:33.120
<v Speaker 1>to hit the golf ball higher, and easiest way to

0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:35.800
<v Speaker 1>hit the golf ball lower. Correct, Just give me ten yards,

0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:38.360
<v Speaker 1>but you give me so what's a good way that

0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:41.640
<v Speaker 1>someone can train themselves to do that? Right?

0:54:41.680 --> 0:54:45.960
<v Speaker 2>So usually fifty five fifty six degree wodge can accomplish this,

0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:49.480
<v Speaker 2>especially in Ford, you get enough bounce, enough loft to

0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:53.640
<v Speaker 2>do both. I like the ball back for low and ten,

0:54:54.040 --> 0:54:56.520
<v Speaker 2>the ball up for high and ten, and it doesn't

0:54:56.520 --> 0:54:57.480
<v Speaker 2>have to be super high.

0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:01.399
<v Speaker 1>It is to be super low else to you as

0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:04.440
<v Speaker 1>the player, to be able to see the difference between

0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:07.319
<v Speaker 1>what the trajectory looks like with the ball back in

0:55:07.360 --> 0:55:10.920
<v Speaker 1>your stands Yep, the shaft's going to be leaning more forward, yep,

0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:12.360
<v Speaker 1>right out of dress.

0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:15.719
<v Speaker 2>And then so in general I like a small for

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 2>small shots. I like small stands, small body, small swings right.

0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:23.000
<v Speaker 2>So we're just small and we're hitting in ten ten

0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:26.560
<v Speaker 2>yards right. And if you can hit that one hundred

0:55:26.560 --> 0:55:29.080
<v Speaker 2>times in a row from the green that's ten yards

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:31.080
<v Speaker 2>off the green, one high, and one that rolls a

0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:35.279
<v Speaker 2>little bit, you've got almost ninety percent of the scenarios

0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:39.080
<v Speaker 2>on the course figured out. Consuming you get on the

0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:41.600
<v Speaker 2>green and you get within ten to fifteen feet.

0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:46.359
<v Speaker 1>So I think a good pack would be three ball

0:55:46.400 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 1>positions yep, neutral ball position, middle of your stands, and

0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:53.880
<v Speaker 1>then you can go that's under the shaft more forward,

0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:57.440
<v Speaker 1>two balls more forward, three balls more forward, and then

0:55:57.480 --> 0:56:01.040
<v Speaker 1>based off of a middle of the stans ball position.

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 1>You get a one ball further back, two balls further back,

0:56:04.360 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 1>three balls further back, getting very systematically and just and

0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:10.759
<v Speaker 1>just basically say, okay, if I move the golf ball

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:14.800
<v Speaker 1>one ball further back in my stants, two balls, three balls, Okay,

0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I see that golf ball going.

0:56:15.920 --> 0:56:16.239
<v Speaker 2>By the way.

0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:19.400
<v Speaker 1>This is new targets. Targets, this is distance just on

0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:22.239
<v Speaker 1>the driving range. On the driving range, propecate, you don't

0:56:22.239 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 1>even need to go to a short game green and

0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:28.520
<v Speaker 1>just see the trajectory change. Yep. And I think if

0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you could do that, then you could say on the

0:56:30.640 --> 0:56:33.640
<v Speaker 1>golf course, okay, I've got this shot. I've got this shot.

0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I need to hit the golf ball a little bit lower.

0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna move this one ball, two ball, three

0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:40.000
<v Speaker 1>balls back in my stants, I've got to hit a

0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:40.800
<v Speaker 1>little bit higher.

0:56:41.120 --> 0:56:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Or how about this, you don't have this shot and

0:56:43.640 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 2>I need to hit it over here somewhere to the right,

0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:49.160
<v Speaker 2>or should have left, bump shot whatever right, and then

0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 2>maybe throwing an extra pitching witch. And now we get

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:53.840
<v Speaker 2>two options.

0:56:54.000 --> 0:56:59.320
<v Speaker 1>What handicap level is your cutoff in short game for

0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:03.000
<v Speaker 1>opening and closing the face.

0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:07.839
<v Speaker 2>That is loaded right? In general, I always like it

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:08.720
<v Speaker 2>a little bit.

0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Open, okay, okay, just a little just.

0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, one o'clock, just ten degrees, open it,

0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:18.160
<v Speaker 2>then take your grip and then take your grip.

0:57:18.200 --> 0:57:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Don't take your grip and then open it, because if

0:57:20.440 --> 0:57:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you take your grip and open it, you're gonna come

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:22.440
<v Speaker 1>back to square.

0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:25.160
<v Speaker 2>In general, I like it just a little bit open,

0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:28.360
<v Speaker 2>and why I want to make sure the bounce doesn't

0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:30.960
<v Speaker 2>get too high or too low. And I want to

0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:34.080
<v Speaker 2>make sure the loft stays the same that you said

0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:37.080
<v Speaker 2>at address, meaning some people open it and close it,

0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:40.240
<v Speaker 2>some people close it, some people open open whatever. Try

0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:43.240
<v Speaker 2>to keep it the same right, try to return the

0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:46.120
<v Speaker 2>club to the same position you started with one from.

0:57:46.520 --> 0:57:53.760
<v Speaker 2>And don't be don't be Nichelson. Be a strigger. Get

0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:56.320
<v Speaker 2>it on the green, be efficient, and you can change

0:57:56.360 --> 0:58:01.400
<v Speaker 2>trajectory with ball position to some degree, or.

0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:05.880
<v Speaker 1>You can change trajectory by choosing a different wedge pub selection. Yep.

0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:09.880
<v Speaker 2>So I like to dumb it down. Maybe that's not

0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:12.560
<v Speaker 2>the best word for it. Just really simplify and be

0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:16.959
<v Speaker 2>less dramatic or less exotic, because I.

0:58:16.840 --> 0:58:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Do think most golfers are trying to be three Michelin

0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Star chefs trying to make fancy, fancy food. They don't

0:58:27.240 --> 0:58:31.680
<v Speaker 1>really know how to just make a basic cheeseburger, basic omelet,

0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and they're trying to be They're trying to be an

0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:40.080
<v Speaker 1>abstract painter as opposed to just painting by numbers, just

0:58:40.240 --> 0:58:45.400
<v Speaker 1>drawing inside numbers, right, just draw inside the all the

0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:48.880
<v Speaker 1>red goes into number ones, all blue. You can paint

0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:50.440
<v Speaker 1>a picture by paint by numbers.

0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:53.120
<v Speaker 2>The goal of the game, or the short game shot

0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:57.880
<v Speaker 2>is to get up and to get down, right, That's it.

0:58:58.680 --> 0:59:02.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't need height, I don't need spin up and down.

0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Two percent is the up, fifty percent is the putt down.

0:59:06.680 --> 0:59:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Just get it up and down. Doesn't have to be

0:59:09.440 --> 0:59:11.600
<v Speaker 2>a lob over the bunker. If you don't have that

0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:14.800
<v Speaker 2>shot or have practice that shot, put it out there

0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 2>and metrojector you give yourself fifteen feet and you might

0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:19.640
<v Speaker 2>get lucky and make it right. You can made four

0:59:19.760 --> 0:59:21.800
<v Speaker 2>from ten feet in your earlier test.

0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Lastly, I mean I've said my you know, views on this,

0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:31.480
<v Speaker 1>playing versus practicing for the average golfer, right for the

0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:34.560
<v Speaker 1>ten to so for the golfer trying to break one

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:38.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety and eighty for the first time advice

0:59:38.600 --> 0:59:42.560
<v Speaker 1>on how much they should be practicing versus playing. Right.

0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:46.120
<v Speaker 2>I think this is a big problem with my coaching

0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:47.920
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to change it. But we need to

0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:52.760
<v Speaker 2>be playing more likely practice and playing as much as possible.

0:59:54.120 --> 0:59:54.640
<v Speaker 2>It's a game.

0:59:56.040 --> 0:59:56.360
<v Speaker 1>You don't.

0:59:57.560 --> 1:00:00.840
<v Speaker 2>You go play tennis, you go play golf, right, you

1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:01.760
<v Speaker 2>play catch?

1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:03.080
<v Speaker 1>You're playing.

1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:09.280
<v Speaker 2>That is the game, right, And I hate my tripod

1:00:09.360 --> 1:00:12.040
<v Speaker 2>and a track man and a practice too. To me,

1:00:12.520 --> 1:00:15.640
<v Speaker 2>no other sport does that as long as we do.

1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:17.760
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna change it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well as always. Great info, and.

1:00:26.120 --> 1:00:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me on man.

1:00:27.080 --> 1:00:27.480
<v Speaker 1>You got it.

1:00:27.480 --> 1:00:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Man, it's I owe just about the entire life and

1:00:30.200 --> 1:00:31.000
<v Speaker 2>career to you.

1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Well. I couldn't do what I do without your help

1:00:34.320 --> 1:00:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and your dedication. So we're in the same boat. We're indispensable.

1:00:38.440 --> 1:00:42.200
<v Speaker 1>We're like an old married couple. It's funny, great talking

1:00:42.240 --> 1:00:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to you, all right, sir. Thank you for everyone listening.

1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Thank you all so much. It really means a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to me. And we're gonna keep trying to put out

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<v Speaker 1>content to help you improve your game. Son of a

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<v Speaker 1>Butch comes to you every Wednesday. We will see you

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<v Speaker 1>next week.