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Speaker 2: Yes, find some reality, know what you have. If you're

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Speaker 2: fifty six becues eighty five instead of Jordan Spieth's one five,

435
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 2: that's your number, right. If you can carry your driver

436
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: maybe two thirty. It's not gonna go three hundred, right,

437
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 2: And the uh that's It's a big part of the

438
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: industry is tackling that from from a wide from a

439
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: wide view.

440
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Speaker 1: And I also think it's incumbent upon the player. My

441
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: dad's always said, check your ego at the door when

442
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: you go to the golf course, of the driving way,

443
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,239
Speaker 1: for sure of your ego in the car. And I

444
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: do think that if everyone listening had a more honest approach,

445
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: but an honest evaluation of what their strengths, but all

446
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: so what their weaknesses are. What do you think is

447
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: a good kind of golf life hack for players to

448
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: find what they're good at? Right? Because I mean, we've

449
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: got driving, we've got irons, we've got short game and

450
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: then we've got putting right, and then you want to

451
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: throw in course management. But to me, those are the

452
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: five areas. Sure, you know, because if you look at

453
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Speaker 1: what we're looking at from a tour standpoint or from

454
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Speaker 1: a competitive standpoint, I'm looking at how Brooks DJ, the

455
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: players that I work with, Brooks DJ, Pat Perez, Marine Alex.

456
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at how they drive the ball. I'm looking

457
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: at what their iron game is like. You know, from

458
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: the tour standpoint, we're looking at short irons, mid irons,

459
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: long irons. Then we're looking at short game, then we're

460
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: looking at putting, and then we're looking at course management.

461
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: Give me some you know, basic life hacks that a

462
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: ten to twenty handicapper can use in their practice. It

463
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: can help them evaluate what elements of those five things

464
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 1: are good at and what elements of those five things

465
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: they're not good. Right.

466
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: So we've covered chork in right putting the same way.

467
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: I think, you know, give yourself three feet, make a circle,

468
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: knock them all out. You need to be one from

469
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 2: three feet right. I don't care want your handicappings right,

470
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: break it out six feet, ten feet. Maybe i'd find

471
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: out what your percentages are. Use ten balls make it easy, right,

472
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,479
Speaker 2: Just give yourself some level of expectation. Don't look at

473
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 2: the tour stats. What's what's your stats?

474
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Speaker 1: And also, I think the average goal for vastly overestimates

475
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: how good tour players are, right, because they think they

476
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: think every fifteen footer. The percentages show that a tour

477
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: player should make every fifteen footer, so they get a

478
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: fifteen footer, whether it's for par, whether it's for bogie,

479
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: whether it's for double weather, it's for bird or whatever.

480
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: They I think the average golfer thinks, Okay, if I

481
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: miss a fifteen footer, I'm a terrible putter. What is it?

482
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: What is? It's right around seven to eight feet On

483
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour, it goes fifty to fifty, right, that's

484
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: right inside of I think seven feet. The numbers incrementally

485
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: make wise go up the closer you get. But it's

486
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: right around that seven to eight foot mark where it's

487
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty on the PGA Tour. The best of

488
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: the best or half the time they make and half

489
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: the time they miss.

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Speaker 2: Right, So start with butting, start with chipping too. You

491
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: know eight foot circle you did inside eight f circle?

492
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: Hey, I don't even think eight feet. I think if

493
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: you know you can get it inside a ten foot circle, right,

494
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: if you could just around the greens, regardless of how

495
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: close you are two flag distances right now, two flag distance,

496
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: you could just say, okay, let me get this anywhere

497
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: inside of ten feet. Yep. If you're a fifteen handicapper,

498
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: if you're a twenty handicapper and every chip shot you

499
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: have gets somewhere inside of a ten foot I'd even

500
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: go fifteen foot circle. You are going to be gaining massively. Correct,

501
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: you're gaining strokes.

502
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 2: Let's put you in six times out of ten balls, right, yeah, right,

503
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 2: and then take that to a full or swing. Irons

504
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: create boundaries, whether you use like a name point little

505
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: two fingers, how many times can you get it through

506
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: the field goal?

507
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: Right?

508
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: When you're practicing basketball, you know if it goes in

509
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: the hoop or not. But when we're hitting golf balls

510
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: to a random target, we're thinking about, hey, is it solid,

511
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: which way to it go left or right?

512
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: While was the curve? Just get it? Then the uprights. Yeah,

513
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: if you've got a golf course where if you've got

514
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: a driving range where you practice and they have greens,

515
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: those are awesome, Like if you're lucky enough to have

516
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: a drive I know not everybody listening has that, but

517
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: if you're lucky enough to have a driving range that

518
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: has flags on a green rather than I think what

519
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: everybody does, regardless of their handicap level, is they go

520
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: to the driving range. If they've got a a target

521
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: and it's on a green. They're aiming at the target,

522
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: but they're not just trying to say, okay, whatever that distance,

523
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: let's say it's one hundred one hundred yards away, let

524
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: me just hit ten balls and just hit the green.

525
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: Don't even worry about where the target is. Correct. Wait,

526
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: if you've got a.

527
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: Twenty yards wide, maybe yeah, maybe it's two trees in

528
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: the distance. Chimneys like here, the.

529
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: Two flags whatever. Give yourself barriers, barriers on either side,

530
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: like a soccer goal, like a football goal, like a

531
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: rugby goal. Give yourself barriers on either side, and say, okay.

532
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: You know it's a thing that we say a lot

533
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: in They say this a lot in hockey, they say

534
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: this a lot in soccer slash football. If a hockey

535
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: player is close to the goal, if a footballer is

536
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: close to the goal, they always say, make the keeper

537
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: make a safe hit the target right, regardless of whether

538
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: you're going high, whether you're going low. Make the goalie

539
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: make a safe regardless of where that is. And I

540
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: think if that concept, you say to yourself, Okay, I

541
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: just need to hit the target, and let's make the

542
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: target big to begin with, and then start to shrink

543
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: it after I get proficient at hitting the target.

544
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: But then once you achieve all these segments from putting

545
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: to full swing to driver whatever, you have a base

546
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: level of expectation.

547
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: Right.

548
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: If you take that expectation to the course, now, you're

549
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: not going to get upset when something goes wrong. And

550
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: I think that's a huge part of this. People have

551
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: these expectations of a tour player. They can't back it up.

552
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: They lose focus.

553
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: Shots one that they don't they've never practiced correct that

554
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: they've never done on a driving range. Now when they're

555
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: on the course playing the game, they're going to try

556
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: something that is going to have a significant effect on

557
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: their score, which is the object of playing golf is

558
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: your score, yep.

559
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: And if you've been just working on hand position for

560
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: two hours, then you go to play nine holes and

561
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: you're trying to work on hand position during the nine holes,

562
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: probably not going to score your best, much better off

563
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: kind of testing yourself either in the warm up before

564
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: the round. Get it through the gates, get it through

565
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: the targets, make them from three feet, make them five

566
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: give yourself hard specific data, a system that you will

567
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: that you can apply to the course. Now your expectations

568
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: are grounded. Now you can play eighteen holes, face the challenges,

569
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 2: play the game and you're not getting upset over and

570
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: some sort of simple shower or some imperfect swinger whatever.

571
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: What handicap range would you say is you need to

572
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: be below this handicap range to actually aim at specific pins.

573
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: So you've got you know, you've got.

574
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: To be a loaded question based on what we did

575
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: last week.

576
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: Right, you've got eighteen holes, right, and you've got eighteen greens.

577
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: Give me a for you. You've been doing this, you know,

578
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: you've been teaching as long as I have. What is

579
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: your threshold for you need to be this handicap or

580
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: lower for you to as a player to be aiming

581
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: at pins as opposed to just trying to get it

582
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: on the green.

583
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: I would say zero handicap, get it on the green.

584
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: So you need to be a scratch golfer.

585
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: You need to be a scratch golfer.

586
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: To be going at specific targets on a green yep.

587
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: And you know one of the Brooks stories is the

588
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: four or five hole in US test.

589
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've talked about that on the pod before.

590
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: And if you go out and play a four or

591
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: five holes, you're playing great. You've got maybe a green light.

592
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: And for me when i'm coaching, you've got a green

593
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: light from maybe one or two pins that are perfect scenarios,

594
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: perfect numbers, perfect registances, whatever, perfect side of the green.

595
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: That's it.

596
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: And like at a major, zero pins, for Brooks at

597
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: a regular event, maybe four or five maybe maybe right,

598
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: and then if he gets if he's too aggressive, he

599
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: backs it off, right. I think it's a scratch in

600
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: a cap.

601
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: So if you're a five, I.

602
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: Will give you a green light, but you won't.

603
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: But the green light would only be man.

604
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: It's going to be one perfect scenario scenario per round, and.

605
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: It's probably going to be with a club that you

606
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: can control. So it's probably for let's say you're a

607
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: if you're a five, ten, fifteen handicapper, it's probably going

608
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: to be a scoring club.

609
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: Your objective is to eliminate the mistakes off the tee,

610
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: the mistakes entered the green and just get out of

611
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: there every hole. That's what's pointing. That's how we play

612
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: the game right. And if you're making these decisions going

613
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: after pens and you don't have the right numbers, you're

614
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: not gonna perform, well, you're not gonna score.

615
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: Well, well you were, you were part of you were

616
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: giving a lesson last week when when Brooks was here

617
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: with and I talked about this on the pod last

618
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: week with Boggle Laro, the kid that's trying to play professionally,

619
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: and one of the things that you I'd forgotten that

620
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: Brooks said this, but you messaged me this, yep, and

621
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: I remembered it. You said, Brooks said to Boggle, I

622
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: am ten times more disciplined.

623
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: It's how I opened the conversation than you are.

624
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: And then you will ever be on the golf course

625
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: with regards to they were asked targets, club selection, go

626
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: no go green light versus light and he was like

627
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: and and I forgot to mention this in the pod

628
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: when I was talking about it, but I thought that

629
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: was fascinating that Brooks was like, I am more disciplined

630
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: than you are. And I'm one of the best players

631
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: in the world, and I've won five major championships and

632
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: have been number one in the world. I'm more disciplined

633
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: at picking conservative targets than you are.

634
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 2: And what does discipline mean? I mean, it's basically meaning

635
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: that he knows his game that day, that and minted

636
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: better than anyone else in the world other than maybe

637
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: Ricky is caddy. Yeah, and implying that nobody else has

638
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: that level of awareness and discipline in the room that

639
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: day for sure, and a majority of professionals.

640
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: So how do we how do how does a fifteen

641
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: twenty handicapper go on the golf course and have discipline

642
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: to not go what we call I mean, And again

643
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: I keep going back to this. I think it's so

644
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: much television bias. Yes, I mean, he can go flag

645
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: hunting here, Johnny, he can go flag hunt here. This

646
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: is a green light pin. If you're a fifteen handicapper.

647
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: There are no green light pints. No, there are no

648
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: green light pints.

649
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 2: I don't okay, I but it's your perfect redge number.

650
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: Just get it on the green find the center of safety,

651
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: put it there, right. We have if you're a fifteen handicapper,

652
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: you probably have top problems with alignment, Bob posishan whatever

653
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: before we even get to the technical part. So you

654
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: got to knock out all that stuff first, right, you

655
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: gotta have an expectation that, hey, I just got seven

656
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: out of ten within eighty five yards when I was

657
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: warming up. I've got a pen at ninety. I'm not

658
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: going to try to hit a ninety. I'm going to

659
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: hit it eighty five. And you have a seventy percent chance,

660
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 2: based on what you did earlier, to hit that job.

661
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: And I also think that people forget. The average golfer

662
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: forgets that unless you are lucky enough to be a

663
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: member at a very elite, tournament style golf course, right,

664
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: you know, like a very elite The majority of golfers

665
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: play golf on greens that aren't running thirteen. They're not

666
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: rock hard, the rough isn't massively up. The greens don't

667
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: have the undulation that we see at places like Augusta

668
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: or a major championship. So the greens it's a general station.

669
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: But I think most people play golf courses where the

670
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: greens are relatively flat because the majority of the greens

671
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: that they're going to play. They might have some subtle slopes,

672
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: but they're not going to have the slope that you know,

673
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: the first green at Augusta has to where if they

674
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: put the pin in certain positions, there's no way to

675
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: actually even get at those positions. The greens are massively

676
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: there's false fronts, there's a lot of rof, there's a lot.

677
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: Of nobody plays. Nobody plays golf like that.

678
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: Most people don't play golf like that, and they're never

679
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: going to play golf like understand golf like that. So right,

680
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: you're lucky in that you're not a fifteen handicapper and

681
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: your home course is Augusta National, because you'd quit if

682
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: you had to play Augusta National every day because the

683
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: golf course is just too hard if you had to

684
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: play you know, TPC Sawgrass where they play the Players Championship.

685
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: I mean that golf course is next to impossible to

686
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: play for tour players when they set it up under

687
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: tournament conditions. So I think most golfers are lucky in

688
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: that they play golf courses that they can just basically

689
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: should scorable. If you do have the discipline to say, listen,

690
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: let me just get it anywhere off the tee.

691
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: And make sure you choose the right tea to begin with.

692
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: Sure, So how do you give a life hack golf

693
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: life hack to for everyone listening? How do you go

694
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: about that? How do you choose the teas you play?

695
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: Because everybody wants to play.

696
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: Let's start simple with if you're a junior, play all

697
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: the way up and take and break par and then

698
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 2: you work your way back to the next team. Can

699
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: you break par from there?

700
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: And if you're a fifteen handicapper, if you want to

701
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: go back and play the back teas because you want

702
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: to be you want to feel like a trope, you

703
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: want to feel like you're a player, blah blah. But

704
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: until you can consistently yeah, I think you know. If

705
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: you're trying to break eighty for the first time, rather

706
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: than do it from the tea box that you want

707
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: to play, go to the go to the forward, t

708
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: the furthest shop tree. Historically that has been the Ladies

709
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: team whatever whatever, now different colors, whatever, but you know, red, white, blue, whatever.

710
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: Go to the front, go as far up as you

711
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: can and try and break. If you're trying to break

712
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: hundred for the first time, go to the furthest forward

713
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: t and try and break.

714
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: Trys how fun it is, right, And if you put

715
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 2: it like that is a raised from those teas and

716
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: we're covering distance right as fast as you can, and

717
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: it's a race. And when you play from the wrong

718
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 2: tea or the furthest tea back and you're just making

719
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: that race so much more toughly. Yeah, right, And.

720
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: So it's I mean, to me, if you're if you're

721
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: trying to play golf from further back than you should,

722
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: to me, it's the equivalent of trying to climb Mount

723
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: Everest and basically starting at the bottom and just thinking

724
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: you're just going to climb all the way to the top.

725
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: You're not going to Camp one and then not go

726
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: So to me, the tea boxes are like climbing Mount Everest.

727
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 1: Go to the front and just try and get acclimated

728
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: at Camp one, which is the furthest forward tee, and

729
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: once you get comfortable there, once you feel like you

730
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: can kind of make good rational decisions there, get acclimated,

731
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: get kind of in a good place, then you say, okay,

732
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: Camp two is one tee further back. And if you're

733
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: trying to break I mean, I think that's that's a

734
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: great way to think about it. Right, If you're trying

735
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: to break one hundreds for the first time, go to

736
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: the forward t go to the closest possible, the shortest

737
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: distance the golf course can be played from, and see it.

738
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: If you can break a hundred.

739
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: From the surprise, how much funny you would have.

740
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: You would have a lot of fun because there would

741
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: be a lot of par fours that you could get

742
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: two and two. As opposed to saying, listen, I can't

743
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: even get to this par four and two because I

744
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: just don't hit it far enough, you could probably get

745
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: to half of the par threes you might be able

746
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: to get. You know, if you're playing a golf course

747
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: where there's four par threes, you might let's see, if

748
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: you could get to one of them, you might have

749
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: a legend of two of them. Would say, but if

750
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: you could just hit one of the greens, yes, out

751
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 1: of the four, as opposed to missing all of them, Yes,

752
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: that's a gain, that's a win. You're making progress, big

753
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: time progress. So consistently breaking one hundred, consistently breaking ninety,

754
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: consistently breaking from a variety of different tees, I think

755
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: is a really good baseline instead of stand, instead of

756
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: just going, okay, it's your course. You've got. Let's say

757
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: you've just got red, blue, and white. Right, go to

758
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: the red, see what your score is. Next time you play,

759
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: go to the white, see what your score is. Go

760
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: all the way back, see what your score is. If

761
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: you do that, I think you'd have a pretty good

762
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: idea of the tees that you should be playing. Shared.

763
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: You're gonna have some perspective, some data.

764
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: Because I'm guessing you're probably going to shoot lower scores

765
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: from the more forward tees and you're probably going to

766
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: shoot exponentially worse from the back tees. Correct, and then

767
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: figure out where you need to be based off of that.

768
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: I mean, when you and I go out and play,

769
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: we never I mean I hate playing golf from all

770
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: the way back. Yes, I mean it's brutal for me

771
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: because I don't hit the golf ball far enough right,

772
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, what here at the flow, what's

773
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: sneaky speed? You know? But I mean if we play

774
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: all the way back here at the flow, what is

775
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: seventy one hundred seventy one hundred?

776
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: You play some of the unmarkedees? Yea, right?

777
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: And so on days that it's windy, there were going

778
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: to be par four's. Where if I hit a good

779
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: drop five hundred yards, Yeah, our ninth hole is five

780
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: hundred yards. If I'm playing that from the back t

781
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: and I bust a driver like I might be able

782
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: to hit it to eighty. I mean, if I really

783
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: catch one, it's rolling out to two ninety. But you

784
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: know me, I'm bad at math. That's to eighty. That's

785
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: gonna leave me a lot. I wouldn't have got that right.

786
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: But you're now I've got two twenty, which is hybrid?

787
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: Which hybrid? I'm trying to bust a three wood. I'm

788
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: terrible at hitting three.

789
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:50,479
Speaker 2: With the wind.

790
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: Right, who's getting h The prevailing wind is normally the

791
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: on our ninth hole, right, So I've urt. Whereas if

792
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: I play it from sixty, So we've got four t's

793
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: at the flow right are five? Yep? Okay, so let's

794
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: see five t is it's the shortest. So let's say

795
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: I played five. Let's say I played it from the

796
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: three tep. So a hole that is five hundred yards

797
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: now is I think it's four hundred four hundred, right,

798
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: So it's one hundred yards in distance yes, right, But again,

799
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: if I hit my drive to seventy two sixty to

800
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: two seventy instead of doing that from all the way

801
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: back where now I'm looking at hitting three wood or

802
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: going I probably can't even get to the green here

803
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: if it's into the wind. I'm looking at a mid

804
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: to a mid iron where I've got a much better

805
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: chance to get to the green for sure.

806
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: And that's more fun.

807
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

808
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 2: Who the hell practices three woods off the deck all

809
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 2: the time?

810
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: Right?

811
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: No, I didn't dour players at all.

812
00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: No. Right, good golf life hack for figuring out the

813
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: shape that you're trying to hit right to left, left

814
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: to right. How does someone identify, regardless of their handicap level,

815
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: how do they identify what shape they should be trying

816
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: to hit?

817
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: Well?

818
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: I think you got to go through our testing, right,

819
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: put us some barriers, put up a mark. We need

820
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 2: to curve draws in there on the drive page. Yes,

821
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: on the drive wrench.

822
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: Do it with a seven, nine iron, eight iron something

823
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: that you know obviously the higher the loft, the harder

824
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: it is to curve the golf ball. I think kind

825
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: of that eight iron to seven iron is a good

826
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: golf club to use. That is going to show you

827
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: whether you can curve the golf ball the way you

828
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: want to or not.

829
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: It'll be solid practice, nonetheless, but you know you do

830
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: ten draws, ten fades who went right?

831
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: And then so ten ten shots where you're trying to

832
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: swing the golf club from out to in, which would

833
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: be more of a fade shot. Ten golf balls where

834
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: it's trying to swing the golf club a little bit

835
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: more pathwise from in to out, which would be more

836
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: of a draw shot. Yep, your ten balls, maybe twenty

837
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: if you want to push it and say, okay, out

838
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: of these twenty, how many of them had the shape

839
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: that I was trying to hit. If it's left to right,

840
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: if it's right to left, just start there. And I

841
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: think one of the things I think is important is

842
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: and I don't care how you do about it, and

843
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: don't care how you do it, and don't have the

844
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: running commentary in your head on okay, well that was

845
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: too much. Can you move the golf ball left to right?

846
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: Can you start it left of the target, have it

847
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: curve back to the right. Can you start it right

848
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: of the target, have it curve back to the left,

849
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: and just get and then basically based off of that,

850
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: you're probably going to have a good idea. I think

851
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: the majority of golfers will struggle mid to high handicapped golfers,

852
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: the majority of golfers, if they did that ten twenty

853
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: balls trying to hit a fade, ten to twenty balls

854
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: trying to hit a draw, they're going to struggle to

855
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: hit the draw.

856
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they might do the exact opposite, right,

857
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: and I'd be trying to draw it and it's just

858
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: a push last every time.

859
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: So based off of that, what does a player do.

860
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: You gotta find the centers, fafety and hit it straight

861
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: at it and don't try to curve it.

862
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: You got to find a level.

863
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: You got to have a base level of proficiency that

864
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: you can yourself believe in instead of the TV or whatever. Right,

865
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: bit's three out of ten draws, four out of ten fades.

866
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: Then let's go play fade only off the tee, fade

867
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: only on the greens for nine holes and just see

868
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: what happened. Right.

869
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: I think so many people are unwilling to actually go

870
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: out on the golf course. Something that you and I

871
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: have talked to our student. It's very difficult to go

872
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: out on the golf course. Bob Rotello wants you to

873
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,479
Speaker 1: go to the golf course with no swing thoughts, right,

874
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: but he'll allow you to have one right right. And

875
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: I've told you the story. We've you've seen it in action.

876
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: Trevor Emmlman. You know we love Trevor. Too smart for golf,

877
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: way too smart for golf, and one of my favorite

878
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: things about it, and would overthink and overanalyze. And Rotello said, listen,

879
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: I don't want you to go with any swing thoughts,

880
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: but I'll give you one. And Trevor was dying. This

881
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: is like four, We're at the Masters, and Trevor's like,

882
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: there's no way I can play golf with just one

883
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: swing thought. And Rotella wants you to take one swing

884
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: thought right and keep it the entire round, which is

885
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: very difficult commit. So my point being to go play

886
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: nine holes and commit to just hitting one shape, whatever

887
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: that shape is, right, But do the test on the

888
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: range and say, Okay, it's easier for me. It's hard

889
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: for me to draw it. I tend to slice the

890
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: golf ball, right. I think most people listening will fall

891
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: into that category. They tend to slice the golf ball. Okay,

892
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: So go play nine holes and play for that shape,

893
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: play for that miss, play for the ball to go

894
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: left to right, adjust your aim, and don't try and

895
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 1: go to the golf course and hit a draw which

896
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: you aren't able to do on the driving rude. Just

897
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: go to the golf course say, okay, I'm gonna fade it,

898
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: slice it around. I'm gonna slice it rather than fade it,

899
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna slice the golf ball around the golf course

900
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: to aim for that. Yes, bang on it right now.

901
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: Football players, if they're injured, they understand what they have

902
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: that day and they go out and play anyway. You

903
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: need to understand what you have that day and go

904
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: out and play anyway and just commit right and try

905
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: to be perfect out there and try to hit every shape.

906
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean it's something I preach on the

907
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: pod all the time. I think for a regular golfer,

908
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: just have one shape. You don't need to hit the

909
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: golf ball high, you don't need to hit the golf bowl,

910
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: you don't need to have all of these tools in

911
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: your toolbox. You just need a hammer. And if you've

912
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: got a hammer, you can hammer in a nail yep. Right,

913
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: And then if you can just every time you see

914
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: a nail and you've got a hammer, and you can

915
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 1: just hammer that nail in perfect perfect Now to do

916
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: other things, to do advanced carpentry, but you could have

917
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: a hammer and some nails and some wood, you can

918
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: do something and you could make something. Yes, with just

919
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: a hammer and just some nails, not screws, nut saws.

920
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: You could put together some pieces of wood that could

921
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: make something right. And if you could think about just

922
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: going out and trying to play nine holes and saying, listen,

923
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna hit the golf ball with the swing

924
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: that I've got this direction for nine holes on every

925
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: shot that's not going to aim at targets.

926
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 2: Great example discipline right there.

927
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't care where it is on the fairway, whether

928
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: it's on the left side, the right side, the middle,

929
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: just anywhere in the fairway, anywhere on the green, add

930
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: up what you shoot and get out of there. Because

931
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: if you could do that right, I think, wouldn't you

932
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: agree if you could do that, if you could just

933
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,959
Speaker 1: go out and say okay, let me get the ball

934
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: and play off the tee, and you could do that right.

935
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: You just say okay, it might not be pretty, but

936
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: I am getting the ball in play in the fairway,

937
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: off the tee, and then I'm not really aiming at

938
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: any flags. I'm just basically hitting this anywhere on the green. Right.

939
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: If then you look at your score and you've got

940
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: forty three putts, then you could say, Okay, maybe you

941
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: need to just learn how to put better because you're

942
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: hitting some fairways and you're hitting some greens, and okay,

943
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: now maybe we need to go look at speed control.

944
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: Maybe we need to look at that. But again, I

945
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: think everybody looks at their golf game and thinks that

946
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: they need to have all of the shots, right. They

947
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: do not.

948
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: Very few people in the world have all the shots.

949
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: I think maybe Ernie ELS's peak, you saw it right, Tiger,

950
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: he had all the shots, you saw it in person.

951
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: Rory kind of. Rory has a lot of shots.

952
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: I can tell you Brooks doesn't have all the shots.

953
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: Brooks kind of has that the shots that he have

954
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: man or might right, and he's very disciplined to use it.

955
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: Give me some contact hacks. I think something that I've

956
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: preached a show the contact Yeah. We had We had

957
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: an old show called Yeah we had a show that

958
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: we put up on YouTube that years ago. It was

959
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: that fifteen years ago called the Contact Show, and nobody watched.

960
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: I will say this one year, one year? Is it

961
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: the twenty eleven? We just it was right around that

962
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: time we started the Contact Show, right, two thousand and eight,

963
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: two thousand.

964
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: And Joe Haiferic and China something around there.

965
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: Well, we had the show called the Contact Show. And

966
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: I was at the PGA at Atlanta Athletic Club. I

967
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: was getting my credential. My wife was with me, and

968
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: some guy came up to me. It was a club

969
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: pro and he said, big fan of the of the

970
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: Contact Show. And my wife Lisa said, oh, you're the one.

971
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 1: You're the one watcher. But contact, right, How do golfers

972
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: what are some easy life hacks that they can do

973
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: to improve quality of strike and contact?

974
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, for putting, I need a gate, put it through

975
00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: the gate.

976
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: So the tiger, So the tiger drill. You put two

977
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: t's on either side of your putter, depending on how much,

978
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: give yourself some room right on either side of the putter.

979
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: So the toe, put a tea outside the toe, outside

980
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: the heel.

981
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: Target, no target, no target, and then begin to challenge

982
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 2: yourself when you.

983
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: Get to that, and just feel like you're give yourself

984
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: no target. And let's say you're trying to hit a

985
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: ten foot putt and see if you can control the

986
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: putter and the speed and the speed and have a saneness.

987
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the great drills that I like

988
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: to do is have someone in your mind do the

989
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: gate right, do the gate drill right. You're gonna give

990
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 1: yourself room to hit the putter and then say, okay,

991
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: I've got a ten foot putt. I'm gonna hit five balls,

992
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: ten balls, and I'm going to see if all of

993
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: them kind of have a saneness to them, look the

994
00:52:54,680 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: same speed wise, give yourself a t walk out five steps,

995
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: ten steps, and say okay, I'm just gonna hit ten

996
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: balls and see if I'm I've got five balls or

997
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: ten balls that look somewhat similar to each other from

998
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: a speed standpoint, from a distant standpoint, from a dispersion standpoint. Yeah,

999
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: I like that one. How much of putting contact wise

1000
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: the way the club contacts the ball do you think

1001
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: can be cured and you can benefit from by taking away.

1002
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: The target all of it, especially the higher they anicap.

1003
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: I mean, no hole, you go to pop shroke, you

1004
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 3: go to miniature golf and get those little bullseye style putters.

1005
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: People hit those great shitty golf balls through the clown's

1006
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: mouth and they get to the golf course, they got

1007
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: your fancy spider putter and holes and brakes and maybe,

1008
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes it's slower than actual putt put golf

1009
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: course and it's a complete freak out.

1010
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: So make sure you gamify it a little bit too.

1011
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: And then for you know, for chipping, I preach even

1012
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: for pros, you got to have like a ten yard shot,

1013
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 2: one that goes high, one that goes low. I don't

1014
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: care what wedge it is. And usually hit a shot

1015
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 2: the ghost ten yards and we're like like a soft,

1016
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 2: kind of floppy type of shot. The ghost ten yards

1017
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: stays within ten yards, and one that flies about ten

1018
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: yards and rolls out.

1019
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: However, far so life hack for players to hit the

1020
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: golf ball with their ten yard wed shot. Easiest way

1021
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: to hit the golf ball higher, and easiest way to

1022
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: hit the golf ball lower. Correct, Just give me ten yards,

1023
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: but you give me so what's a good way that

1024
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: someone can train themselves to do that? Right?

1025
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: So usually fifty five fifty six degree wodge can accomplish this,

1026
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: especially in Ford, you get enough bounce, enough loft to

1027
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: do both. I like the ball back for low and ten,

1028
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: the ball up for high and ten, and it doesn't

1029
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: have to be super high.

1030
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: It is to be super low else to you as

1031
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: the player, to be able to see the difference between

1032
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: what the trajectory looks like with the ball back in

1033
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: your stands Yep, the shaft's going to be leaning more forward, yep,

1034
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: right out of dress.

1035
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 2: And then so in general I like a small for

1036
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: small shots. I like small stands, small body, small swings right.

1037
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: So we're just small and we're hitting in ten ten

1038
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: yards right. And if you can hit that one hundred

1039
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: times in a row from the green that's ten yards

1040
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: off the green, one high, and one that rolls a

1041
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 2: little bit, you've got almost ninety percent of the scenarios

1042
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: on the course figured out. Consuming you get on the

1043
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 2: green and you get within ten to fifteen feet.

1044
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: So I think a good pack would be three ball

1045
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: positions yep, neutral ball position, middle of your stands, and

1046
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: then you can go that's under the shaft more forward,

1047
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: two balls more forward, three balls more forward, and then

1048
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: based off of a middle of the stans ball position.

1049
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: You get a one ball further back, two balls further back,

1050
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: three balls further back, getting very systematically and just and

1051
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: just basically say, okay, if I move the golf ball

1052
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 1: one ball further back in my stants, two balls, three balls, Okay,

1053
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: I see that golf ball going.

1054
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 2: By the way.

1055
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: This is new targets. Targets, this is distance just on

1056
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: the driving range. On the driving range, propecate, you don't

1057
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: even need to go to a short game green and

1058
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: just see the trajectory change. Yep. And I think if

1059
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: you could do that, then you could say on the

1060
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: golf course, okay, I've got this shot. I've got this shot.

1061
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: I need to hit the golf ball a little bit lower.

1062
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna move this one ball, two ball, three

1063
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: balls back in my stants, I've got to hit a

1064
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: little bit higher.

1065
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: Or how about this, you don't have this shot and

1066
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: I need to hit it over here somewhere to the right,

1067
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: or should have left, bump shot whatever right, and then

1068
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: maybe throwing an extra pitching witch. And now we get

1069
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 2: two options.

1070
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: What handicap level is your cutoff in short game for

1071
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: opening and closing the face.

1072
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 2: That is loaded right? In general, I always like it

1073
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1074
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: Open, okay, okay, just a little just.

1075
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 2: Like you know, one o'clock, just ten degrees, open it,

1076
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: then take your grip and then take your grip.

1077
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: Don't take your grip and then open it, because if

1078
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: you take your grip and open it, you're gonna come

1079
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: back to square.

1080
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: In general, I like it just a little bit open,

1081
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: and why I want to make sure the bounce doesn't

1082
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: get too high or too low. And I want to

1083
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: make sure the loft stays the same that you said

1084
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: at address, meaning some people open it and close it,

1085
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: some people close it, some people open open whatever. Try

1086
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: to keep it the same right, try to return the

1087
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: club to the same position you started with one from.

1088
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: And don't be don't be Nichelson. Be a strigger. Get

1089
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: it on the green, be efficient, and you can change

1090
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: trajectory with ball position to some degree, or.

1091
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: You can change trajectory by choosing a different wedge pub selection. Yep.

1092
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: So I like to dumb it down. Maybe that's not

1093
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: the best word for it. Just really simplify and be

1094
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,959
Speaker 2: less dramatic or less exotic, because I.

1095
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: Do think most golfers are trying to be three Michelin

1096
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: Star chefs trying to make fancy, fancy food. They don't

1097
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: really know how to just make a basic cheeseburger, basic omelet,

1098
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: and they're trying to be They're trying to be an

1099
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: abstract painter as opposed to just painting by numbers, just

1100
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: drawing inside numbers, right, just draw inside the all the

1101
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: red goes into number ones, all blue. You can paint

1102
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: a picture by paint by numbers.

1103
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: The goal of the game, or the short game shot

1104
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: is to get up and to get down, right, That's it.

1105
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 2: I don't need height, I don't need spin up and down.

1106
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 2: Two percent is the up, fifty percent is the putt down.

1107
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 2: Just get it up and down. Doesn't have to be

1108
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: a lob over the bunker. If you don't have that

1109
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: shot or have practice that shot, put it out there

1110
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: and metrojector you give yourself fifteen feet and you might

1111
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: get lucky and make it right. You can made four

1112
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: from ten feet in your earlier test.

1113
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: Lastly, I mean I've said my you know, views on this,

1114
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: playing versus practicing for the average golfer, right for the

1115
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: ten to so for the golfer trying to break one

1116
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety and eighty for the first time advice

1117
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: on how much they should be practicing versus playing. Right.

1118
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: I think this is a big problem with my coaching

1119
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: and I'm going to change it. But we need to

1120
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: be playing more likely practice and playing as much as possible.

1121
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: It's a game.

1122
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: You don't.

1123
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: You go play tennis, you go play golf, right, you

1124
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: play catch?

1125
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: You're playing.

1126
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 2: That is the game, right, And I hate my tripod

1127
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: and a track man and a practice too. To me,

1128
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 2: no other sport does that as long as we do.

1129
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna change it.

1130
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: Well as always. Great info, and.

1131
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on man.

1132
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: You got it.

1133
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 2: Man, it's I owe just about the entire life and

1134
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 2: career to you.

1135
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: Well. I couldn't do what I do without your help

1136
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: and your dedication. So we're in the same boat. We're indispensable.

1137
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: We're like an old married couple. It's funny, great talking

1138
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: to you, all right, sir. Thank you for everyone listening.

1139
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: Thank you all so much. It really means a lot

1140
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: to me. And we're gonna keep trying to put out

1141
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: content to help you improve your game. Son of a

1142
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: Butch comes to you every Wednesday. We will see you

1143
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: next week.