1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: It's that time time time, time, luck and load. 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: So Michael Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: So as you might imagine, we are sending show ideas, jokes, articles, 4 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 3: we've read video audio of things that we see Trump's comment, 5 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: some random listener saying something. 6 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: We need to chase this to ground. 7 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: Is there truth to this or not because they claim this, 8 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: And oftentimes that's how you find things out. That person 9 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 3: turns out has some inside information, or has a brother 10 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: in law, it has some inside information. And that is 11 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: our collaborative process that keeps the show running. That's how 12 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 3: we create content. And the challenge is to go from 13 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 3: those conversations late at night, early in the morning while 14 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: one person's driving another person is, you know, doing something else. 15 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 3: Someone else said their kids baseball game. And we're sending 16 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: these ideas around and the challenge is to get those 17 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: ideas corralled wrangled on the show during the morning and 18 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 3: evening in a format that I can share with you. 19 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: And one of the themes that comes. 20 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: Up is this idea of if you're a normal person 21 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: and you're watching what's going on, you start to question 22 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: your own sanity new what's happening with Tesla? How can 23 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: any democrat in America live with themselves watching these crazy 24 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: white liberals, and it's all crazy white liberals, mostly women, 25 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: but all crazy white liberals and men who look black 26 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: women and that weird like Tim Cook. They all have 27 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: that same haircut, you know, like the sixty year old 28 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: white lesbian and Aspen. 29 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: They all have that same look. 30 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: They're kind of thin, they're kind of dressed like Ellen 31 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: DeGeneres man or woman. They all kind of look the same. 32 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: And the men are effeminate and the women are slightly masculine, 33 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: and it's just sort of okay, all right, you don't 34 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 3: you really don't know how to address them. The men 35 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: have soft voices and the women have deeper voices, a 36 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: bass or a deep bass at a minimum in Alto 37 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: Alto Ramon. But you watch this going on and you 38 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: think to yourself, and so Ramon came up with a 39 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: little mechanism. Because if you have a bit like Signs 40 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: and Wonders, Oh we have a sign of Wonders today. 41 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 2: Everyone, If you have a bit, it's already produced and built. 42 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: Then when things come to mind and you go, oh 43 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: this fits nicely in that vehicle, that's how that's the 44 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: delivery mechanism for this random thought otherwise random thought, you 45 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: wonder how to get it on the air. 46 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 2: So you know, one of one of. 47 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: Us in the group will send an email like, what 48 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: the hell's going on with this tesla terrorism thing? 49 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: I mean, you know what's happening. 50 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: But imagine that all of a sudden, just overnight, they 51 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: are out keying a tesla and it is coordinated. There 52 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: are agitators, well funded, Sorrows backed agitators that are pushing 53 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: these sorts of things, this narrative, and then the people, you. 54 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: Know, they lurch. 55 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: But two years ago they would have never imagined that 56 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: they would be out keying random teslas and parking lots, 57 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: and now they're. 58 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: Compelled to do it. It's really it's zombie esque, right. 59 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: So we will ask you know what well, and then 60 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: the conversation will and that's how we develop kind of 61 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: need k n E A D kind of work our 62 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: what's a term ramon in cooking world other than like 63 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: massaging the dough or kneadings one, but isn't there another one? 64 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: There's a term for kind of working you know, there's 65 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: Russell Lebar taught me muddling, Like if you get a 66 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 3: Moscow mule and you want, say blueberries and could you 67 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: muddle some? 68 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: And I like that act. 69 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: It's kind of a cool thing to see the idea 70 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: of muddling something. Anyway, so Ramon came up with deep 71 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 3: thoughts by a sane person, and we will play this 72 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 3: for you. But I'm looking for a better title, and 73 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 3: I thought it should be called what it really is, 74 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: which is deep thoughts by Ramon while he's sitting on 75 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 3: the pot. 76 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: But give this some thought. It's a just trial. And 77 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: now deep thoughts from a sane person. 78 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 4: Remember when buying an electric vehicle wasn't a choice, it 79 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: was a moral obligation. 80 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 2: They said, if you didn't drive. 81 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 5: An EV, a polar Bear would length into its gluten 82 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 5: free kambucha. They tried to shame us into plugging in 83 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 5: like our souls dependent on it. Every commercial looked like 84 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 5: a yoga retreat for smugness, a silent car gliding down 85 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 5: a road made of guilt and recycled NPR too banks. 86 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 5: But now, oh no, now the same folks are boycotting 87 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 5: evs faster than they can say range anxiety because apparently 88 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 5: Elon said something mean on Twitter, or maybe their tesla 89 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 5: didn't come with a safe space in the glove box. 90 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 5: And these poor DearS, they're horrified that twenty year old 91 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 5: finance nerds are coming through balance sheets on Reddit, pulling 92 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 5: out bankrupt companies like they just found mold in the pantry. 93 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 5: Oh no, these doge kids are too young to understand. 94 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 5: But hold up, weren't you just building trines to a 95 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 5: sixteen year old reta Thunberg like she was the reincarnation 96 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 5: of Mother Earth but with better banks. 97 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: Let me get this straight. 98 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 4: A high schooler from Sweden can lecture world leaders on 99 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: climate policy, but a twenty three year old can't read 100 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 4: a balance sheet and spot a scam. Where was all 101 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 4: this skepticism and FTX was throwing Super Bowl parties with 102 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 4: your retirement fus. Where was the concern for youth and 103 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 4: inexperience when a teenager with a scowl and a sailboat 104 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 4: was testifying in front of the UF And don't even 105 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: get me started on their panic over misinformation. These are 106 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: the same folks who spent three years wearing two masks 107 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: alone in a Prius BacT checking memes while drinking almond 108 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 4: milk from a paper straw wrapped in plastic. Now suddenly 109 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: they're champions of free speech and fiscal restraint. It's like 110 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 4: watching a vegan get mad that a steakhouse doesn't have 111 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: goat milt. 112 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: Buddy, you built this and that was deep thoughts. 113 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 6: From the same person. All right, now here's the other version. 114 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 6: You know what really clogs my cooborated. Remember when buying 115 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 6: an electric vehicle wasn't a choice, it was a moral obligation. 116 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 6: They said, if you didn't drive an EV, a polar 117 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 6: bear would weep into its gluten Creek umbucha. 118 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: They tried to shame us and are plugging in like 119 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: our souls depended on it. Every commercial looked like a 120 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: yoga retreat for smugness, a silent car gliding down a 121 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: road made of guilt and recycled MPR tote bag. But now, 122 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: oh no, Now the same folks are boycotting evs faster 123 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: than they can say range anxiety because apparently Elon said 124 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: something meanie weeny on the Twitter winter, or maybe their 125 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: Tesla didn't come with a safe space in the glove box. 126 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: And these poor DearS, they're horrified. 127 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: The twenty year old finance nerds are combing through balance 128 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: sheets on Reddit, calling out bankrupt companies like they just 129 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: found mold in the pantry. Oh no, these doge kids. 130 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: Oh they're too young to understand. But hold up, weren't 131 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: you just building shrines to a sixteen year old Greta 132 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: Thumberg like she was the reincarnation of Mother Earth with 133 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: better bangs. 134 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: Let me get this straight. 135 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: A high schooler from Sweden can lecture world leaders on 136 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: climate policy, but a twenty three year old can't read 137 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: a balance sheet and spot a scam. What was all 138 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: this skepticism when FTX was throwing Super Bowl parties with 139 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: everything I'll happen. 140 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: The first one better? Hey me, come on, I still 141 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: think it should. 142 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: Be called deep thoughts by Ramon while sitting on the pipe. 143 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: That's what they ask is the Michael Berry Show? 144 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you had the time of your life. 145 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: We had one of the strangest coincidences happened this morning. 146 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: There's no point to this story. I'm just telling you 147 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: because it's such a strange coincidence. So yesterday, whilst driving 148 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: on the iten Feeeder Road at Beltway eight and I 149 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 3: eastbound going under the beltway, the song Crying by Aerosmith 150 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 3: comes on, and I remember how the tempo changes and 151 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: the key changes and becomes a totally different song in 152 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: the middle of the song, and how cool it was, 153 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: and it really showcases Stephen Tyler's voice at its peak. 154 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: And I was just thinking, that's such a good song. 155 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 3: So I did what I always do, its just amed 156 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: it so that the next day or whenever, when Ramone 157 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: Ramone picks the bumps, but occasionally he'll go, you got 158 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: anything on your mind, because there'll be something related to 159 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: what we're about to do. And so at eight thirty 160 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 3: this morning, unsolicited, I said, can you play Crying by Aerosmith? 161 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: And he gave me that look your dog gives you 162 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: when they're not sure why you're doing what you're doing. 163 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: And I thought, well, I know he knows the song. 164 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: He loves Aerosmith. Why do you ask for that? And 165 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: I said because I heard it yesterday. He said, because 166 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 3: Ramona is needy. You didn't listen to what I sent 167 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: last night? And I said no, and he said did 168 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: you I didn't. Oh, okay, well I'm not playing Crying okay. 169 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: So he plays something else I remember what it was, 170 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: and then he plays the piece that he had produced 171 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: about Steven Tyler, because it's Steven Tyler's birthday today, and 172 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 3: it was just odd. In twenty years of doing this, 173 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 3: I have never asked for crying by Aerosmith one time. 174 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: Today happened to be the day I asked for it. 175 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: We do four segments an hour. Five hours is twenty 176 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: segments a day. Out of those twenty segments, a five 177 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: percent chance if I was going to ask him for 178 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,119 Speaker 3: it today is a five percent chance. 179 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: That I would do it. 180 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: It exactly the moment that he had his bit queued 181 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: up to play and it happened. 182 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: That's a god thing, Ramon, That's a good thing. 183 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: That's what I've decided. Unfortunately, this is not a god thing. 184 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: It's a signs of wonders, so disturbing. 185 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 8: All the damn money, of money and the drugs. It's 186 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 8: just damn beyond everything. What's it mean? 187 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: What's it leading to? 188 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 8: I don't know. If you'd have told me twenty years 189 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 8: ago i'd see children walking the streets of our Texas 190 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 8: towns with their green hair bones and their noses. I 191 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 8: just flat out withn't the bleak signs and wonders. 192 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 9: But I think once you quit here in Sir and ma'am, 193 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 9: rest is thing to follow. 194 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: Oh, it's the tad. It's the dismal pad. It is 195 00:11:55,480 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: not the one thing, the one thing. Signs and wonders, Fars, 196 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: signs and wonders, talk Fire, it's. 197 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 8: The visual party, Signs and wondrous signs and wonders. 198 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: The story from Fox twenty six, And bear in mind 199 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: the fact pattern is disturbing enough. They're fourteen, that is, 200 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: at most a freshman in high school, more likely an 201 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: eighth grader. They're still in middle school or junior high, 202 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 3: however you called it. These kids are in junior high 203 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: doing this. 204 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 10: We still struggling with the pain. You still feel like 205 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 10: if it's a dream, like if it's something that is happening, 206 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 10: like you'd be in a dream that you can't get 207 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 10: out of. 208 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 11: A memorial grows on the playground at the village of 209 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 11: Baytown Apartments where fourteen year old and Nya Zachary was 210 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 11: shot and killed shortly after coming home from school March 211 00:12:54,720 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 11: twenty first. Her father, Joseph Zachary, devastated losing his little. 212 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 10: We have to look at where she took her lass 213 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 10: breath at right here in this park, and I knew 214 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 10: when it happened and everything. She probably was trying to 215 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 10: reach out to her father and try to get to 216 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 10: her father and never think for help. 217 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 11: Baytown Police confirmed the fourteen year old male suspect, a 218 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 11: Goose Creek ISD student, is in custody in charge with murder. 219 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 11: The family tells us Anaya had problems with the suspect 220 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 11: that school before she. 221 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: Was on a bus. 222 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 12: She said to him for him to leave her alone, 223 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 12: but she but he didn't want to stop that. But 224 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 12: when she got out of the bus, the bus driver 225 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 12: lived led him off the bus too. If you don't 226 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 12: live here, why would you let this child get off 227 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 12: this bus if he lives over there. 228 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 11: The family also says once Anaya got to the apartment playground, 229 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 11: the suspect approached and started shooting. Neighbors believed the suspect's 230 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 11: parent may be facing charges. Baytown PD says that will 231 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 11: be determined by the day. 232 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 10: Day we got to live and see how we're gonna 233 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,359 Speaker 10: go a boy this ship without seeing. 234 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 2: Her face really devastating. 235 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 13: So under Texas law, parents are guardians may be held 236 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 13: criminally liable if a child younger than seventeen gains access 237 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 13: to a readily dischargeable firearm due to a failure to 238 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 13: secure it. But the circumstances regarding the weapon used in 239 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 13: this murder have yet to be announced. 240 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: Another story from Khou whip number twelve from them. 241 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 14: Even with this guilty plead, the trial will continue so 242 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 14: the jury can decide a punishment. The prosecution is seeking 243 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 14: the death penalty, arguing that Davis's words aren't enough to 244 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 14: absolve his crimes. In the courtroom today, the prosecution played 245 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 14: audio from nine to one one calls that were made 246 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 14: on the day of this triple murder back in June 247 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 14: twenty twenty one. Investigators have said Davis was hired by 248 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 14: a childhood friend, Alexis Williams, to carry out the killing 249 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 14: of her ex girlfriend, Danievia Lagway and her family at 250 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 14: the family's apartment. Davis fatally shot Lagway, her husband, Gregory Carhe, 251 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 14: and their six year old daughter, Harmony. And their opening 252 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 14: statements today, prosecutors painted Davis as a career criminal with 253 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 14: a record that started when he was a teenager. The 254 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 14: defense argued that it was Davis's rough childhood and family 255 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 14: history that led him here does plea of guilty. 256 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: These are just words. We know what his actions are. 257 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: Don't let him pretend to be something else. 258 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 9: There are forces that can affect a human being, that 259 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 9: make you do things that other people wouldn't do, and 260 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 9: you're about to learn that now. 261 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 14: Today the prosecution called a family member of the victim 262 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 14: to the stand. A Houston police officer also testified. Court 263 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 14: officials have told those that the sentencing phase of this 264 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 14: trial that we're now in could last several weeks. The 265 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 14: last death penalty case in Harris County's three years ago. 266 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 5: Marry SUPERI that week could stop this. 267 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: Bobby Braddock, you really putting them talk about a powerhouse 268 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: songwriting Chris. 269 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: Bobby Braddock wrote a lot of songs for a lot 270 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: of artists. I bet he had at least twenty maybe 271 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: twenty five artists that you would know, Lacey Dalton, I 272 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: think Travis Tritt. 273 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: He wrote would You Catch a Falling Star? 274 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: For John Anderson, which is one of the grittiest and 275 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: sad songs of an aging former star. His His big 276 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: Tour bus has been turned back in for a rapevan 277 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: for an a teen ban or the. 278 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: Scooby Doo ban Ban. 279 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 3: We're still trying to come up with a title for 280 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: Ramone's new segment. We think it should start with Deep 281 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: Thoughts by or deep thoughts from and our top contenders 282 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 3: so far, feel free to send yours, deep thoughts from 283 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 3: Ramone on the Throne, deep thoughts from the Bidet of Reckoning, 284 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 3: deep thoughts by the Porcelain Pundit, or from the Porcelain Pundit, 285 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: Feel free to send yours along. So ABC thirteen had 286 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: a ridiculous story about how HID is making enrollment difficult 287 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,239 Speaker 3: for students with criminal charges or records. Now, we just 288 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 3: played you a story in Beytown of a fourteen year 289 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 3: old pump who came home from school, goes over to 290 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: this girl's apartment. She rebuffs him. He goes back to 291 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,239 Speaker 3: his apartment, pulls out a pistol and comes back and 292 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 3: shoots her as she's running away from him. But that's 293 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: not good enough. When he's done, he's going to do 294 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 3: it like in the movies. He goes and stands over 295 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: her and blasts her in the head. So imagine the scene. 296 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 3: You know, there were little kids in diapers running around 297 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 3: in the middle of that yard. They're all built the 298 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 3: same way. You got the four corners, and then in 299 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: the in the middle you got the guys out playing 300 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: dominoes and tricks being turned and the deals being the 301 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 3: drugs being dealt, and there's little kids out there and 302 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 3: everybody's kind of got an eye on them more or less, 303 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 3: and and kids saw that, I mean, just brutal, just vicious. Well, 304 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: would you want that kid going to your school? I mean, 305 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: would you want that kid going to school with your kid? 306 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 3: Would you want to teach that kid? Would you want 307 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: to have that kid at your school as a teacher? 308 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 3: Would you want him in your class? You see all 309 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 3: these videos now about these students who beat their teachers, 310 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: I mean to death, beat them unconscious. I mean, you're 311 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 3: talking about a different culture. You're talking about a different 312 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: subset society. And don't worry that it's racial, because black 313 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 3: people will tell you about it. They know it better 314 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 3: than anybody, because they're the ones often stuck in it. 315 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: They're the ones that have to deal with it more 316 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 3: than you do. You can move to the other side 317 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 3: of town, they're stuck. And so ABC thirteen has this 318 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 3: story about how they're having. 319 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 2: Trouble getting into school. Little Tremaine. 320 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: He commits, well, you commit one murder, one murder. It's 321 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: like the old you suck well, you know, he commit 322 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: one murder, and the schools this mother is very upset here. 323 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 3: He did he killed one person, and now they act 324 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 3: like they. 325 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: Don't want him in the school. Oh, yo, you don't 326 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: want you too? Good for my son? You know, yo? 327 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: You know my kid? 328 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 2: You's school? Oh okay, okay, So that's that. That ain't fair? 329 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 3: How that go? 330 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: Be fair? Y'all, y'all go tell oh you can't come school? Well, 331 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: why how come he can't come school? He got he 332 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: got rights, he got rights. HISD doesn't want him there. 333 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: Put him in another is you. 334 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 3: Want to put him in a state institution, put him 335 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 3: in a prison. No, no, they don't want him there. 336 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: Good for them, high agency move. 337 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 2: Well done. 338 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: Uh then I'm reminded of the story. In twenty twenty three, 339 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 3: Wisdom High School was called. A Wisdom High School student 340 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: who was free on multiple bonds for armed robbery was 341 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 3: allowed to attend classes because you know, we don't we 342 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 3: don't want to tell. 343 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: Him no, we want to go along. We don't want 344 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 2: to upset anybody. 345 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 3: And there was a lockdown on the campus when he 346 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: returned to the campus after he and his buddies robbed 347 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: a man at a nearby apartment complex. Yeah, yeah, you know, 348 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: during the break between second and third period. We had 349 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 3: ten minutes, so I would run down. We had a 350 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: vending machine and a doctor Pepper machine, and I would 351 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: get a Snickers and a doctor pepper between second and 352 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: third period, and from in the one hundred feet it 353 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: took from there to get to Miss Martin's class. Third period, 354 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: I would scarf the Snickers and the doctor pepper and 355 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: man died. It feel good and you got doctor pepper. 356 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: Burps is coming out your nose. It's delicious, It's delightful. 357 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 3: That's between second and third period. That's what I did. 358 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: What does this guy do? He goes out to the 359 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: apartment complex next door, puts a gun in somebody's face, 360 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 3: and takes their money. I mean, you know, we all 361 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 3: distressed a little differently. You know, his second and third 362 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 3: period breaks very different from mine. This same kid who 363 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 3: the school was in lockgun and the ffred he's gonna 364 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: shoot herver at school. He had been charged with the 365 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: crime when he was eleven in sixth grade. He had 366 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: been charged with a crime. You're almost starting to get 367 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: the idea that there are certain people who can't live 368 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 3: amongst us. They're awful people. There are certain people who 369 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: cannot live amongst us. This is why you see stories 370 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 3: like this PTSD. It's not just for people who serve 371 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 3: in war. There are people who see things and have 372 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: to deal with things. There was a story. 373 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 15: Earlier about two Harris County deputies and a retired deputy 374 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 15: all died by suicide within the span of a week, 375 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 15: and I think within a month this has all just happened. 376 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 2: I think within a month it was four. There was 377 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: another one. They have. 378 00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 3: Mental health counseling for law enforcement, and some take advantage 379 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 3: of it and some don't. And I think one of 380 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: the things that's important is to de shame it. We 381 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 3: don't shame you for realizing you had a heart attack. 382 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 3: Now you need to alter your diet, sleep, water, exercise. 383 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 3: We don't shame you for having diabetes, go get help 384 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: or any other condition. But there is a personal shame 385 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 3: of depression and the effects that I think this line 386 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: of work can have. And it's real. My brother served 387 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 3: two years as an undercover. 388 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: Officer at one point, and they would have to wore 389 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 2: a mullet and change his. 390 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: Whole appearance, and they have to go and do these 391 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: drug buys, and he had to live the character and 392 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 3: in two years we were. 393 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: We did a little interdiction, like, Chris, you got to 394 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: get out of this. It's affecting you. These guys go 395 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 2: through some real pray for your law enforce on The 396 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: Michael Berry Show. 397 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 16: I've always been the kind of men who doesn't believe 398 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 16: even strings, long term obligations are just unnecessary things. The girl, 399 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 16: You've got me thinking while I'm drinking one more dear, 400 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 16: if I'm hid for a hardy, then why the hell 401 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 16: master here? I'm testing my resistance and it's well and 402 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 16: mighty things. See this movie got the feeling I shot 403 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 16: before enough. 404 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: O range time it's fantast tells me it's awesomely fantastic, 405 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 3: awesomely awful or awfully awesome, doesn't matter. Turn it out, 406 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 3: turn out to the you clue everybody else watching was 407 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: good er. 408 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 16: While you're turning me every which way, But she turned 409 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 16: me every which way but inside the fires burning me 410 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 16: in my mind. You just keep turning me every which way. 411 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 7: But babe, there's no which used. 412 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 16: To turn me every which way? 413 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 13: Uh Lo. 414 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: Rangutan's name was Clyde. If I remember tray the morn 415 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: and I find Saint Clint Easwood's character's name. 416 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: Was Filo, Philo Fellow, those memories Fillow and Clyde. 417 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: That's a long time. And you talking about almost in 418 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: my forty years. 419 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: What was this seventy nine came out seventy eight, seventy seven, 420 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 3: Right in that era, I was eight years old. Man, 421 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: when you're eight years old, you don't just have a 422 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: crush on Pharaoh Fawcet. I mean you feel a certain 423 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: way and you don't even know why. And I'm not 424 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: talking about a burning in your loins, Ramona. I'm talking 425 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 3: about at that point, you just think to yourself, Yeah, 426 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 3: she's not. 427 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 2: Like those other girls. 428 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: I'd play with her, we'd go back riding together, because 429 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: you're eight, you know. But then you have this just 430 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: admiration for men you want to be like. But I 431 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 3: think back to men that I admired in nineteen seventy eight. 432 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 2: I remember when Noel Ryan came. I was ten. 433 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: I remember, I mean Earl Campbell was a god. Dan 434 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 3: Pastorini was man. You couldn't be cooler than Dan Pastorini. 435 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: You just you couldn't. There was no cooler cool than 436 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 2: Dan Pastorini. 437 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 3: I mean, I would you know, I could just imagine, 438 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 3: you know, hopping in the truck with bum Phillips and 439 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: you're driving, you know, out to his place out near 440 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: the George Ranch that he had at that time, Like 441 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 3: that would just be the greatest thing ever, Pap Paul 442 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 3: Bum how many times you go run or this Sunday, 443 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 3: I don't. 444 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: Know, probably about fifty years. What what you're thinking? 445 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: I mean, those were just those were your dream conversations 446 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 3: at that time. It's absolute dream conversations. So we've had 447 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: a spate of deputies Harris County Sheriff's deputies commit suicide, 448 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: several of. 449 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 2: Them women young, and they're young. These women. I didn't 450 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: look at their exact age, but I saw their photos. 451 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: I think I think two of the four were Hispanic women, 452 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: and they look like they are at the most thirty. 453 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 3: I got to tell you, if you know people in 454 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: high stress jobs, let me back up and say this, 455 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 3: if you have never known of suicide, it is the 456 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: most awful thing you can imagine. 457 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 2: It is. 458 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: You know, you've had people die in your life, Yes, 459 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: that's unfortunate, but to have someone you love commit suicide 460 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 3: that will never leave you, you will take that with 461 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: you for the rest of your life. 462 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: There just nowhere around it. 463 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: Because then you will internalize an accident, all right, an 464 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: accident is terrible, but we know accidents happen. A heart attack, Okay, fine, 465 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: you know it's gonna happen to us. All just a 466 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 3: question to win, right, But suicide. 467 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: Is man, it's it hurts everybody so so so badly. 468 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: I get hate mail when I say this. 469 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 3: What I'm say it anyway because I believe it. It bothers 470 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: me when people say of a person who commits suicide 471 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: that he took the easy. 472 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 17: Way out, he was a coward. I don't believe that 473 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 17: at all. I think it's a very brave thing to do. 474 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 17: I think it's a very difficult thing to do. I 475 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 17: don't want people to do it. I don't, but I 476 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 17: think it's awful to say that. 477 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: A person is a coward for doing it. It's hard 478 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: to do. It's why so many people fail at it. 479 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 3: If you think about it, if you want to kill yourself, 480 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 3: you can kill yourself not that hard. But people can't 481 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: do it because our nature, from the moment we're born 482 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: is to survive. That's what gave Marcus Latreuell the will 483 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: to crawl for miles with his body. 484 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: Riddled with bullets, he should have been dead. 485 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 3: The will to survive. You see out in the wilderness 486 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: that the Andian Mountain crash and those people that engaged 487 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: in cannibalism, unspeakable things because of the will to survive. 488 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 3: The Donner Party, I mean, the things that happen, the 489 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 3: things that people are willing to do, are the things 490 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 3: that they do to survive. For someone to commit suicide, 491 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 3: my heart aches for people who do that because I 492 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 3: don't think. 493 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: Of the death. 494 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,239 Speaker 3: The death has happened, You're not going to change that. 495 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: All I can think about is how much pain did 496 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 3: that person have? How much pain did that person have 497 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: that it made sense to them to kill themselves, because 498 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: you know, when you kill yourself, you're making everybody else sad. 499 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 3: And you have come to the conclusion of, hey man, 500 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: I'm sorry y'all about all this. I'm sorry that everybody's 501 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 3: going to have to suffer because of this. But this 502 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: pain is unbearable. This pain is something I can't I can't, 503 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 3: I can't deal with anymore. I think that's the pain 504 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 3: that the rest of us will never understand. I don't 505 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: think we can. Oh that's not true, Michael. I had 506 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 3: a down maybe, but maybe the depth of pain. And 507 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: these are the sorts of things that's psychosomatic. These are 508 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: the sorts of things, you know, one person's pain over 509 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 3: another one. When I was growing up, there were several 510 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: kids in our region who committed suicide in high school. 511 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 3: You know, Bobby commits suicide because Susie breaks up with him. 512 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 3: We're freshman, fool, what are you doing? In ten years 513 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: you'd be you know, you'd thank God for unanswered prayers 514 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: that you didn't marry her. But at that time, in 515 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: his crazy mind, that mind is a powerful thing, his 516 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: crazy mind that made all the sense in the world. So, 517 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 3: if you've got somebody in your life, a nurse, could 518 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 3: be a teacher, a firefighter, a police officer, a warrior. 519 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: A veteran. 520 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 3: That serves in a high stress environment, trauma involved, tell 521 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 3: them you love them, help them, get help, Listen to them, 522 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: read up on it, find somebody to get them home. 523 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: We went looking for. 524 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 3: We ended up with family Psychiatry of the Williams. We 525 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 3: went looking for a show sponsor in that space because 526 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: I decided that it was bothering me obviously. PTSD Foundation 527 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 3: Camp hope is to keep these guys from committing suicide 528 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 3: and give them the tools to survive. But then people 529 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 3: started sending their stories of their kid or their wife 530 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 3: with their husband, or their dad, or somebody in their 531 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 3: life that committed suicide, their employee. 532 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: It's tough. It's tough. 533 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm sorry to end the show on such a 534 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 3: dark note. But the answer is have high agency and 535 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: do something about it. 536 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 8: M HM.