WEBVTT - Episode 5: The Babe in the Woods

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin Jake Alpern here before we get started, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>Previously on deep Cover. I had a couple of lawyers,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would always say Bob Coole he was the best.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was good at pukskin cases, and they

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<v Speaker 1>knew how good he was, and he was the fixture

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<v Speaker 1>he was to be with the guy. By the early

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighties, Cooley had established himself as mister Fixett, a

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<v Speaker 1>guy the mob called if one of their own was

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble, and Bob was also learning that working for

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<v Speaker 1>the mob came with rules, but sometimes Bob broke them.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, if anybody thinks for one second, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>even take up beating. I said, you know they're thinking wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, And if I think I got a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with you, who I said, You're going to have the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking problem. And eventually they would have a problem with Bob,

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<v Speaker 1>a very big one, but for the time being, Bob

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<v Speaker 1>was still their guy. In the nineteen eighties, Chicago was

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<v Speaker 1>corruption city, USA. Corruption was so insidious that over time

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<v Speaker 1>some people stopped thinking about bribery itself as even being wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of like a stop sign that fades

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<v Speaker 1>and rusts and gradually gets ignored until no one even

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<v Speaker 1>thinks about slowing down at the intersection anymore. No one,

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<v Speaker 1>that is, except for this guy. I believed in God,

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<v Speaker 1>motherhood in the flag and thought crime and corruption could

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<v Speaker 1>be dealt with. This is mort Friedman. He's in his

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<v Speaker 1>eighties now and long retired, but back in his heyday,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a prosecutor at the Cook County States Attorney's Office.

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt if anyone ever entered that office more naive

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<v Speaker 1>than I was. I thought I could do good. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I could help clean up crime. I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>could make the streets safe for women and little children.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went in there just a babe in the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>absolute babe in the woods. His job was basically prosecuting

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<v Speaker 1>criminals for a range of misdeeds, anything from theft to murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Morton never tried a case against Bob, but he easily

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<v Speaker 1>could have. They were cogs in the same machine grinding away.

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<v Speaker 1>Mort says he remembers his early days as a prosecutor

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<v Speaker 1>very fondly. Oh, it was wonderful. I had a courtroom

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<v Speaker 1>with a judge who was soft spoken, polite. I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing exceptionally while as a trial lawyer. And yet it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't all perfect. There was this one defense lawyer that

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<v Speaker 1>Mort kept on going up against. I knew I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to lose. It didn't matter how well I prepared

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<v Speaker 1>the witnesses, how well I argued emotion I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to lose. Mort began to suspect the judge

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<v Speaker 1>was being paid off. After all, this was Chicago, and

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<v Speaker 1>this particular defense lawyer allegedly had mob ties. Even so,

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<v Speaker 1>More kept trying his best to win. And then one

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<v Speaker 1>day after work he had this epiphany. I was alone

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<v Speaker 1>in the courtroom. It was a way past quitting time.

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<v Speaker 1>I was preparing for the next day, and it suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>dawned on me and I stood there thinking, I'm a pimp.

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<v Speaker 1>The better I prepare, the harder I try. All I

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<v Speaker 1>can do is drive up the price of the bribe

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<v Speaker 1>to the judge. And it was a heartbreaking and devastating thought.

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<v Speaker 1>A realization it was just heartbreaking. Mort couldn't stomach it

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<v Speaker 1>any longer, and apparently his frustration showed, because shortly after this,

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<v Speaker 1>the judge leaned over the dais and looked at me

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<v Speaker 1>and said, Mart, you've been acting surly lately. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I care for your attitude. And I said to him, well, Judged,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care for the way you jump all over me.

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<v Speaker 1>When this lawyer walks into the courtroom, I named him.

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<v Speaker 1>The judge, quiet and soft spoken as ever, said Mort,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you ought to get another courtroom. I said, Judge,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right, and put my files down and

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<v Speaker 1>walked out. Corruption City, USA be damned. Mort was going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to change the system, So get ready. In

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, I'm going to tell you the story of

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<v Speaker 1>the crusaders who tried to end corruption in Chicago years

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<v Speaker 1>before Bob ever tried. It was a massive undertaking. The

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<v Speaker 1>FBI eventually got involved, marshaling hundreds of agents. They were

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<v Speaker 1>going to war, and in a way, this all set

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<v Speaker 1>the stage for Bob to make the most important decision

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<v Speaker 1>of his life to switch sides. I'm Jake Halbern and

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<v Speaker 1>is deep Cover mob Land. Episode five, The Babe in

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<v Speaker 1>the woods. In the Hollywood version of this story, when

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<v Speaker 1>Mort Friedman squared off with that judge in the courtroom,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd hear the inspirational music and then you'd seem Mort

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<v Speaker 1>hatching his plan to change the world. But it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen like that. Instead, Mort just switched courtrooms, kept trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do his best as a prosecutor, to win the

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<v Speaker 1>cases he could and to be honorable in a system

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<v Speaker 1>that he knew was fundamentally corrupt. I was absolutely convinced

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<v Speaker 1>at that point, did you share this with anyone, like

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<v Speaker 1>even your wife? Did you shared this with anyone? With

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<v Speaker 1>no one? Why is that a certain cowardice on my part,

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<v Speaker 1>need to keep a job and not wanting to rock

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<v Speaker 1>the boat, not wanting to be an outcast. The trial

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<v Speaker 1>courts at that point were a white Christian enclave, and

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<v Speaker 1>there were one or two other assistants who didn't care

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<v Speaker 1>for this jew on the floor. Mort says he overheard

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<v Speaker 1>a few colleagues make anti Semitic remarks. As he saw it,

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<v Speaker 1>this only added his sense that he shouldn't rock the

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<v Speaker 1>boat and make enemies. Even so, I asked him if

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<v Speaker 1>his decision to stay quiet left him feeling guilty or

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<v Speaker 1>worse yet complicit. Certainly. In fact, I still feel that way.

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<v Speaker 1>There were things I could have done much better. In

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<v Speaker 1>this way, Mort is kind of the opposite of Bob Cooley,

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<v Speaker 1>constitutionally incapable of giving himself a pass. Mort eventually became

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<v Speaker 1>the chief of the Criminal Division for Cook County. By population,

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<v Speaker 1>Cook County is the biggest in Illinois and the second

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<v Speaker 1>biggest in the United States. Mort oversaw the prosecution of

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of felonies and misdemeanors each year. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge job. Then one day in nineteen seventy three, Mort

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<v Speaker 1>was hard at work at his desk when a young

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<v Speaker 1>police officer appeared silently in his doorway, waiting to be noticed.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I looked up, he said, mister Friedman, my

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<v Speaker 1>supervisor ordered me to come here. I've been offered a

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<v Speaker 1>bribe to flippercase. The CoP's name was Jose Martinez. He

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<v Speaker 1>looked young and a bit nervous. Standing in the doorway,

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<v Speaker 1>he gave Mort the lowdown. The case at hand involved

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<v Speaker 1>an assault charge. Officer. Martinez was the cop who showed

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<v Speaker 1>up on the scene and made the arrest. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>defense attorney was asking him to pull some chinne nigans

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<v Speaker 1>and helped make the case go away so his client,

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<v Speaker 1>the assaulter, could get off. After hearing all this, Mort

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<v Speaker 1>told the cop officer, I want you to do what

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<v Speaker 1>you're told to do, and say what you're told to say,

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<v Speaker 1>and bring me back the money. That's right. Mort told

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<v Speaker 1>the cop to take the bribe. Officer Martinez, to his credit,

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<v Speaker 1>pushed back. He said, mister Friedman, I can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be lying in court. Mort was kind of amazed

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<v Speaker 1>that the cop stood his ground. No, not just amazed,

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<v Speaker 1>he was secretly delighted. Here's a young Chicago cop telling

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<v Speaker 1>the chief of the criminal Division, I don't care what

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<v Speaker 1>you say. I'm not going to lie in court. Looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>Mort says he should have congratulated Martinez for wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>do the right thing. But that's not what I did. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you do? In a conversation that was very

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<v Speaker 1>loud and replete with upset of these, I told him

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<v Speaker 1>what I would do to him and his career if

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<v Speaker 1>he defied me. Why did you do that? I had

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<v Speaker 1>handed up to my eyeballs with corruption. I knew something

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<v Speaker 1>had to be done. See. Mort had a plan right

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<v Speaker 1>there on the spot. Totally spontaneously. He'd come up with

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<v Speaker 1>an idea for a sting operation. It was both inspired

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<v Speaker 1>and a bit reckless. Mort didn't bother to get permission,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't map out all the possible consequences. He just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do something, damn it, even if he had to

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<v Speaker 1>put Officer Martinez in a very uncomfortable situation. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>have any sense that maybe you'd opened to Pandora's box

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<v Speaker 1>or started something that might end up being a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't care. It didn't matter at all to me

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<v Speaker 1>at that point. I wasn't going to be a kemp.

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<v Speaker 1>Now for his plan to work, he needed Officer Martinez

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<v Speaker 1>Is to take the money and lie in court. That way,

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<v Speaker 1>the government could prosecute the lawyer who made the payoff.

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<v Speaker 1>Did Officer Martinez understand what your game plan was? Did

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<v Speaker 1>he understand that you were out to catch corruption or

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<v Speaker 1>did he think that you were corrupt yourself? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in retrospect, I shouldn't have done that. I

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<v Speaker 1>should have just patiently explained to him what I wanted done. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>Officer Martinez figures out what mord Is up to, so

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<v Speaker 1>he plays a long lies in court and instructed, and

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<v Speaker 1>then afterwards, when he goes to collect his bribe, he

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<v Speaker 1>wears a wire and the result was a tape recording

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<v Speaker 1>a dead bank crime on tape, a deadbang crime on tape. Bingo. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark went up for the good guys, only not really.

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<v Speaker 1>The dirty defense lawyer was convicted of bribery. But more

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<v Speaker 1>strategy backfired. And let me explain why Mort was in

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<v Speaker 1>effect tampering with the justice system. He was affecting the

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<v Speaker 1>outcome of a real, live case. The irony, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>was that this happened all the time anyway in a

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<v Speaker 1>corrupt system. But the fact remained that Mort was breaking

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<v Speaker 1>the law. He pushed a cop to accept a bribe

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<v Speaker 1>in a single case in an attempt to stop bribery

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<v Speaker 1>in general. The powers that be noticed what Mort had done,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they set out to make an example of him.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just, you don't do things like this to lawyers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not nice. And besides, Friedman, you're allowing you're really

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<v Speaker 1>a much bigger center than they because you allowed a

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<v Speaker 1>police officer to lie. Mort was ordered to appear before

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<v Speaker 1>the Disciplinary Commission of the Illinois Supreme Court. They said

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<v Speaker 1>he was quote guilty of conduct tending to bring the

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<v Speaker 1>legal profession into disrepute. For someone like Mort, this was

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<v Speaker 1>a blow. I was mostly sad at the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I had thought I had failed. Why do you think

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<v Speaker 1>you cared so much? If you knew her, you were right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know the answer to that question.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like, this is insane, this is a circus,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm in the middle of it. And as for

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<v Speaker 1>the circus, well, the show went on. By the time

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<v Speaker 1>Mort was chastised by the court for his actions, Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Cooley had fixed the big murder trial for Harry Alaman.

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<v Speaker 1>He was already well on his way to being the

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<v Speaker 1>mob's go to guy, and the lesson from the Babe

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<v Speaker 1>in the Woods seemed to be, Yes, the system is corrupt,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't you dare try to change it, or you'll

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<v Speaker 1>end up like Mort Friedman. Mort's story became a legend

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago. Everyone I talked to seemed to know about it, including,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Bob Cooley. I asked Bob whether he'd ever

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<v Speaker 1>cross passed with Morden, if he knew him. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know him personally, know when you heard what he was

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<v Speaker 1>up to, did you think it would succeed. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew it wouldn't, he says. He knew it wouldn't, not

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<v Speaker 1>just because the legal system protected itself, but because ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>the mob was just too powerful, had too much of

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<v Speaker 1>a stranglehold on the judicial system. They had control over everything. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>this doesn't seem to register, and I don't. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>getting mad at you. I'm just saying you are like

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<v Speaker 1>most people. You think, well, it couldn't be that. Believe me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was that powerful, and then some they were everything.

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<v Speaker 1>This was one of those moments, by the way, where

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<v Speaker 1>I could sense Bob's mounting frustration with me that I

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<v Speaker 1>was so naive or perhaps thickheaded, that I just couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>grasp the most fundamental law of his world. A system

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<v Speaker 1>that is corrupt will stay corrupt, kind of like an

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<v Speaker 1>object in motion will stay in motion until, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>someone stands in its way. And, as it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>over at the FBI, some of the gmen were getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready to make a stand. They had taken notice of

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<v Speaker 1>mort Friedman's failed crusade, and they were marshaling their agents,

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<v Speaker 1>preparing an army of sorts. More on that when we

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<v Speaker 1>come back after the break. Sometime after mort Friedman got rebuked.

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<v Speaker 1>He says he got a call from the FBI. They

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<v Speaker 1>had questions for him. They wanted to know how exactly

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<v Speaker 1>bribes were being placed in Chicago's courthouses and who the

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<v Speaker 1>culprits were. Of course, mort would be the logical to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though his crusade had failed, he was still known

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<v Speaker 1>as the guy who dared to take on corruption. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Little did Mort know, the FBI had hatched a major

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<v Speaker 1>plan to expose corruption in Chicago's courts. They called it

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<v Speaker 1>Operation Gray Lord, and ultimately the success of this operation

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<v Speaker 1>would hinge on a young lawyer named Terry Hake. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be a lawyer anymore. It seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>a big game with what went on and what I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was going on in the corporals. This tape is

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<v Speaker 1>from a TV interview he did years ago. Terry actually

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<v Speaker 1>gave it to me. We chatted by phone a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of times, but he preferred not to be interviewed on

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<v Speaker 1>the record. Terry was a prosecutor. He was young and

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<v Speaker 1>sincere and principled. People who knew him well said he

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<v Speaker 1>was like a boy scout, almost like two point zero,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would try to succeed where mort had failed.

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<v Speaker 1>He told the TV interviewer, my perception of the corruption

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<v Speaker 1>was that it was an old boys club. If you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be one of the boys, you went along

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<v Speaker 1>with the way things were done, and you paid money.

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<v Speaker 1>Terry was so fed up that he was prepared to

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<v Speaker 1>risk his entire career in order to do something about corruption.

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<v Speaker 1>So the FBI convinced him to go undercover, posing as

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<v Speaker 1>a corrupt lawyer. But the FBI was determined not to

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<v Speaker 1>repeat the mistake that Mort Friedman had made, so instead

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<v Speaker 1>of bribing officials in real cases, the FBI would stage

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<v Speaker 1>bogus crimes with bogus criminals, like a big charade. They

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<v Speaker 1>started with DUIs Now. The way we would do this

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<v Speaker 1>is we would drive like ten miles over the speed

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<v Speaker 1>limit on the Dan Ryan Expressway. This is Bill McGarry.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the FBI case agent in charge of Operation

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<v Speaker 1>Gray Lord starting in nineteen eighty one. Bill would tell

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<v Speaker 1>his undercover agent to get in the car and break

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<v Speaker 1>the speed limit in the hopes that they get pulled over.

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<v Speaker 1>We would pour liquor on the shirt of the undercover

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<v Speaker 1>agent so that the police officer immediately detected and smelled

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<v Speaker 1>the odor of alcohol, and then the undercover agent would

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<v Speaker 1>feign intoxication, you know, would slur his speech, stumble around,

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<v Speaker 1>and sell and so forth. The thinking was the undercover

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<v Speaker 1>agent would get arrested, spend a night or two in jail,

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<v Speaker 1>then hire Terry as their lawyer. Terry would then attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to place a bribe and document the whole thing. Pretty innovative, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But there was one serious problem. So what would happen

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<v Speaker 1>is the police officers something would just not arrest the people.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll remembers one time the cop took the car keys

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<v Speaker 1>of an undercover agent and just threw them down the sewer.

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<v Speaker 1>Another time, the cops pulled over one of his guys

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<v Speaker 1>who was posing as a drunk driver, and they buscated

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<v Speaker 1>his keys and locked them in his car, but they

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<v Speaker 1>did not arrest him. Bill says his agents had a

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<v Speaker 1>really hard time getting arrested, in part because the cops

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<v Speaker 1>knew how corrupt the system was. They knew that most

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<v Speaker 1>of the time the people they arrested could just buy

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<v Speaker 1>their way out of it. So what was the point.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill did finally manage to get one of his undercover

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<v Speaker 1>agents arrested for a dui but when they showed up

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<v Speaker 1>in court to try the case, the presiding judge had

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<v Speaker 1>too much to drink at lunch and court was adjourned.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is how it went for months and months.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually the FBI decided to try staging more serious crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>including felonies. So we'd have an agent who would be

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<v Speaker 1>walking down the street carrying back In those days, you

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<v Speaker 1>had men who would wear these purses. Then another undercover agent,

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<v Speaker 1>playing the role of the thief would steal the aforementioned

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<v Speaker 1>and purse. There'd be other undercover agents playing the role

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<v Speaker 1>of witnesses who just happened to be standing around when

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<v Speaker 1>the crime was committed. One of these witnesses would wrestle

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<v Speaker 1>the thief to the ground, the cops would get called.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it'd be here's the thief, we have them for you,

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole scheme it actually worked. That's when Terry

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<v Speaker 1>Haig entered the scene, playing the role of the dirty

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<v Speaker 1>defense lawyer. Terry would go into the courtroom wearing a wire.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he'd placed a bribe to get his client off.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a recording Terry made in which he paid off

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<v Speaker 1>the bagman for a judge named John Divine Well here's

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<v Speaker 1>a one fifty for roll behind okay, and verse fifty

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<v Speaker 1>for you, oh you ceb in it? That okay? Good?

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<v Speaker 1>And then they had it, a dead bang crime on tape,

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<v Speaker 1>a cleanly executed sting operation. And the FBI just kept

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<v Speaker 1>staging these bogus crimes. There was even an office where

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<v Speaker 1>agents sat around cooking up storylines and fake crimes, like

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of TV guys in a writer's room out

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<v Speaker 1>in Hollywood. They came up with fake bios and phony

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<v Speaker 1>IDs for everyone involved. They thought of every detail. They

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<v Speaker 1>even rented apartments to back up the fake IDs, so

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone got suspicious and started poking around, they'd find

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<v Speaker 1>an actual door to knock on. And the scale of

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<v Speaker 1>this was enormous. Bill, the case agent, says that when

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<v Speaker 1>all was said and done, he used over three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>undercover agents, and the evidence poured in. Scores of bribes

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<v Speaker 1>were documented, thousands of hours of conversations were taped, incriminating cops, judges, lawyers,

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<v Speaker 1>and bag men, and it seemed like maybe finally the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Chicago was going to get cleaned up. And

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<v Speaker 1>then one night in August of nineteen eighty three, three

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<v Speaker 1>years after Great Lord began, word got out and the

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<v Speaker 1>operation was secret no more. Bob Cooley remembers this August

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<v Speaker 1>night when news of Operation Gray Lord broke because, as

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out, he was throwing a bachelor party for

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<v Speaker 1>his younger brother, Dennis. Bob says he invited two hundred people,

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<v Speaker 1>mainly lawyers and judges, to his favorite haunt counselor's row.

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<v Speaker 1>Terry Hake, the lawyer who went undercover for Operation Gray Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>he was there too, still very much undercover. Anyway, beer

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<v Speaker 1>was flowing, glasses were clinking, and somewhere in the background

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<v Speaker 1>a TV was on ron. The investigation has code named

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<v Speaker 1>Gray Lord. It's the largest undercover investigation ever started by

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<v Speaker 1>the United States Justice Department. Undercover FBI agents have methodically

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<v Speaker 1>and systematically penetrated the criminal justice system in Cook County.

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<v Speaker 1>And then suddenly the partygoers were clamor around the TV

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<v Speaker 1>to hear what was being said. They announced on the

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<v Speaker 1>TV that somebody was working undercover and had been for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, and there was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>major indictments coming down on the court system there in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the people that are going to be indicted

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<v Speaker 1>are standing right there alongside of US. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>it was unclear who exactly was going to be indicted,

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<v Speaker 1>nor was it clear who this undercover agent was, but

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<v Speaker 1>this much was certain. The ship was about to hit

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<v Speaker 1>the fan. Bob says. The rollicking bachelor party got serious

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<v Speaker 1>quick when they announced that on TV. Holy Christ, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're all standing there. Who's standing right next to me

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<v Speaker 1>but Terry Hack. Bob was literally standing next to the

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<v Speaker 1>guy at the center of this whole thing. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, Bob didn't know that Terry Hack was

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<v Speaker 1>the mole, the very undercover agent being mentioned on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob just thought Terry was another defense attorney. A few

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<v Speaker 1>months later, the full story came out. The FBI uncovered

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<v Speaker 1>a system of bagman. These are the people who insulate

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<v Speaker 1>the judges from the dirty money. Most of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>the bagman are lawyers, cops, and court bailiffs. Terry Hack

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<v Speaker 1>was out at as the mole, and then the indictments

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<v Speaker 1>began to roll. Some of the investigators have called the

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<v Speaker 1>Cook County judicial system the most corrupt system they've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>In total, ninety two officials were indicted, including seventeen judges,

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight lawyers, ten deputy sheriffs, eight policemen, eight court officials,

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<v Speaker 1>and a partridge in a pear tree. Yep, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like Christmas Day at the FBI. So you might think,

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<v Speaker 1>in light of all of this that Bob was biting

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<v Speaker 1>his nails like he just dodged a bullet or something,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe his bullet was still coming. Nope, I was

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<v Speaker 1>ultra careful when I did things, and I realized nobody

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<v Speaker 1>would dare you to cooperate against us. Terry Hag never

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<v Speaker 1>fowned any information about me from anybody, because nobody would

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<v Speaker 1>dare say something about me for fear of the something

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<v Speaker 1>would happen to him. Bob says that Operation Gray Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>as grand as it was in scope, did not indict

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<v Speaker 1>a single first word operative, as he called them. The

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<v Speaker 1>key guys at the Mob relied upon Gray Lord, bagged

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of public officials, but it did not

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<v Speaker 1>break the outfits choke hold on the city. I talked

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<v Speaker 1>to Bill McGarry about this. The FBI agent in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of Operation Gray Lord asked him, did you suspect that

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<v Speaker 1>the Mob was funneling its money into corruption? So we

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<v Speaker 1>always suspected it, but we never, I think, had any

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<v Speaker 1>hard evidence to suggest that you know that there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of mom involvement in the corruption. So as

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly impressive as gray Lord was in this regard, it

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<v Speaker 1>fell short. Gray Lord indicted a whole number of people.

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<v Speaker 1>All that happened was only a few of us could still,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fix major cases, and the price just went up.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard him right. Perversely, the outcome for Bob from

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<v Speaker 1>Operation Gray Lord was that he could now charge more

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<v Speaker 1>money for fixing a case because many of his competitors

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<v Speaker 1>had either been locked up or frightened away. So to recap, first,

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<v Speaker 1>Morte Friedman, the Babe in the Woods, tried to clean

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<v Speaker 1>things up and got crushed. Then the FBI, with its

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<v Speaker 1>army of over three hundred undercover agents, waged its war.

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<v Speaker 1>And still the mob seemed to have sway over the courts.

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<v Speaker 1>They owned, politicians, they killed with impunity, They controlled the city.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed like they were untouchable. So what would it

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<v Speaker 1>take to really end corruption in Chicago? Who would put

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<v Speaker 1>an end to Bob Cooley and the corrupt system that

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<v Speaker 1>he was part of, the answer, of course, was only himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Next time, undeep cover what's going through your head at

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<v Speaker 1>that moment? Keep the fight going, don't back down and

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<v Speaker 1>don't give up, and I kept telling myself don't shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>Deep Cover is produced by Jacob Smith and Amy Gaines

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<v Speaker 1>and edited by Karen Shakerjey. Our senior editor is Jan Guera.

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<v Speaker 1>Original music and our theme was composed by Luise Gara

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<v Speaker 1>and Fawn Williams is our engineer. Our art this season

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<v Speaker 1>was drawn by Cheryl Cook, designed by Sean Carney. Mia

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<v Speaker 1>Lobell is our executive producer. Special thanks to Heather Fame,

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<v Speaker 1>John Schnars, Carl Mcgliori Mayakine, Christina Sullivan, Eric Sandler, Mary

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<v Speaker 1>Bett Smith, Brant Haynes, Maggie Taylor, Nicolemarano, Megan Larson, Royston Beserve,

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<v Speaker 1>Lucy Sullivan, Edith Russlo, Riley Sullivan, Jason Gambrell, Martin Gonzalez,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jacob Weisberg. I'm Jake Albert. Special thanks to investigative

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<v Speaker 1>journalist Peter Carl who shared his insights on Chicago in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen eighties. If you'd like to know more about

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<v Speaker 1>Operation Gray Lord, check out Terry Hake's memoir It's called

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<v Speaker 1>Operation Gray Lord. He co wrote it with Wayne Klatt.

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<v Speaker 1>Also check out Gray Lord by James Twey and Rob Warden.

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