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Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous, my little uh housewive lovers.

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Speaker 2: We're on that same boat together today.

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Speaker 1: I'm super hyped because we have Vicky gumboleson.

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Speaker 2: On the podcast. A drum roll. You had to warm

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Speaker 2: up the tongue first.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. Should I try it again? We have.

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Speaker 4: Joy to the world.

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Speaker 2: Vicky Gunbulson, the o G of the O C. Easton.

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Speaker 2: Are you like when I told you, well, actually I

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Speaker 2: know this.

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Speaker 1: When I said I said that, you said we have

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Speaker 1: Vicky gung Wolson on the podcast. So my mom asked,

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Speaker 1: who do you have on the podcast tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: Vicky Gumbles. I said, I.

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Speaker 3: Say, what now, I'm getting it together, I said, I'm learning.

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Speaker 1: You're scrawny ass in your house right now and get

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Speaker 1: to watching Real Housewives of Orange County OG episodes And

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Speaker 1: did you Easton?

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Speaker 2: Yes? And can I say I'm very happy I did

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Speaker 2: iconic right.

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Speaker 5: Yes. I love the way they were filmed back then.

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Speaker 1: It's just wild. It's like you're a fly on the

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Speaker 1: while watching home videos. For those of you who are

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Speaker 1: just listening, I know the video of this episode is

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Speaker 1: going to drop on Friday, but you will hear baby

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Speaker 1: Sosa on the mic. She's she's ready to move man.

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Speaker 1: She's sick of like being a baby.

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Speaker 2: She wants to get those Michelin legs moving.

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Speaker 3: Oh she just split up, yummy. Well, she didn't like

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Speaker 3: me talking about Michelin.

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Speaker 1: She also has like a two pay moment happening because

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Speaker 1: she moves her head back and forth very quickly. She's

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Speaker 1: not like she's talking about Yes, she's so darling. I

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Speaker 1: will hand her off when we start the Vicki h

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Speaker 1: the Vicki Interview. Move on out of here, because Vicky

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Speaker 1: is all about her business. She has no time you

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Speaker 1: just sit around and baby or baby. She's got insurance

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Speaker 1: to sell. I'm excited for you guys to hear this

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Speaker 1: interview because the og of the OC is alive.

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Speaker 3: And well yep, and she's given notes.

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Speaker 2: She's giving notes about insurance and how you pay taxes

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Speaker 2: and taxes. Thank you Easton, get your pencils out.

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Speaker 1: But also like spreading some other knowledge about other housewives,

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Speaker 1: which T T T. I've been thirsty for some tea

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Speaker 1: because you know, I've been out of the mix. I'm

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Speaker 1: in this like mom Era, which is hell of fun.

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Speaker 2: But it's also fun to sip some tea. I love you,

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Speaker 2: I love a good Cama Mill.

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Speaker 1: So we do have Vicky on the pod, and then

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Speaker 1: next week on our bonus episode, we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about iconic moments from the Real Housewives of Orange County.

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Speaker 1: I can't freakin' wait, so I won't make you guys

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Speaker 1: wait any longer. You guys, Here is my interview with

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Speaker 1: the og of the OC, Vicky gun wulsin Hi Gorge High.

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Speaker 4: Honey, I used to be the Queen of Bravo, but

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Speaker 4: my crown got off and got a little tilted.

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Speaker 1: So I think you're still the Queen of Bravo. And

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Speaker 1: you got that award at Bravo Con.

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Speaker 4: That was cool. That was really very emotional for me

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Speaker 4: because I was not expecting it to be so emotional.

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Speaker 4: You know. I did my speech and everything like two

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Speaker 4: grateful and thankful, but it was. It was emotional because

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Speaker 4: I was like, is this my goodbye tour or is

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Speaker 4: this starting another adventure? I didn't. I didn't really know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I watched something on Hulu and it

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Speaker 1: was Megan King, who was on Real Housewives of OC,

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Speaker 1: and she said that reality TV is kind of like

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Speaker 2: Is that how you feel?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So my manager at the time, years ago out

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Speaker 4: in New York said, fame is like a drug and

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Speaker 4: bad for you. So that's how I correlated. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I relate to that a lot.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you said, you're only as good as

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Speaker 4: I never really knew that my last time filming was

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Speaker 4: Now I'm not friends with Tammer anymore, which is fine,

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Speaker 4: and I'm friends with everybody else, so that's good.

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Speaker 4: other people, you can hang with them even though there's

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Speaker 4: But so that's the decision I made. She never got

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Speaker 1: Who I want to hang with, right And I think Tamra,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think many people enjoy watching her because,

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Speaker 1: Ye what was it like having that and then going Okay,

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Speaker 4: I don't fight with people. If you want to fight

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Speaker 4: I'm not shy of fighting, but I don't go into

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Speaker 1: About, right because I so I'm I do this thing

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Speaker 1: go back and watch old school episodes of the franchise

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Speaker 1: and right now I'm on OC And that was before

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Speaker 2: Then you know, you guys exactly. It was so lighthearted.

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Speaker 2: Well it was real life and not forced like less produced.

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Speaker 3: Yes, in my opinion, because you've been on my TV

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Speaker 4: I do need the paycheck, but you know the numbers

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Speaker 2: It's cool exactly, you know.

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Speaker 4: So get it off the books. Now you know what,

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Speaker 4: So don't. I don't push the irs in the state

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Speaker 4: I go on the FTV, the Federal Techs Board, and

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Speaker 1: Did we just all have mad knowledge dropped on us

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Speaker 4: I tried to put my housewives girls, but they don't

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Speaker 1: You know what, though, I let that's very true. They

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Speaker 4: But so then I use my next season's paycheck to

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Speaker 4: pay these year's taxes and go, what the hell? What

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00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 4: if you don't get back?

435
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna have a heart.

436
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 4: No, it's crazy shit.

437
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 2: No, but they got.

438
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 4: Now they're paying fifty five percent or sixty percent on

439
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 4: the money that they made.

440
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: I mean, did Michael ever stick with being an insurance

441
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:14,679
Speaker 1: what do you call it?

442
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 2: An insurer broker?

443
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 4: He's eighteen brokers? Yeah, he's my life insurance specials eighteen years.

444
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 4: He's thirty nine. I know, I'm mold. And he graduated

445
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 4: eighteen from high school, twenty one to twenty two from college,

446
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 4: and then he went out to try to find a

447
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 4: job and hime back and just like, can we talk him,

448
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 4: like what happened to get you get a ticket?

449
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 1: Like?

450
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 4: What happened he goes. I don't want to do the

451
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 4: eight to six, go home, have dinner, work out, watch TV.

452
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 4: I don't want that life. I want the life that

453
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 4: you showed us, which was balance, right, work out in

454
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 4: the morning if you want, work out at night, or

455
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 4: don't work out it all that day. And guess what.

456
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 4: I have houses in Mexico and I can go there

457
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 4: for five months. My clients don't even know him there

458
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 4: because I'm on zooms and I'm right, got staff that

459
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 4: handles things, and it's a life that I chose to live,

460
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 4: which is not your typical eight to five, right. I mean,

461
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 4: I was here at the office last night to eleven

462
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 4: at night because I choose to be not because I

463
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 4: have to be right.

464
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 2: You could right.

465
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: And I loved Michael and I forget what season, but

466
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: he was talking to his friends how he was going

467
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 1: to go into he was gonna follow in his MoMA's footsteps,

468
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 1: and they were kind of like, why are you going

469
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,479
Speaker 1: to do that? And he said, if I can afford

470
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 1: to buy a boat just by selling insurance, I'll sell insurance.

471
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: I was like, that's just as simple as that.

472
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 4: No, he's just so just so smart and he so

473
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 4: I hired like ten of his college friends. He graduated

474
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 4: University of calared Boulder, and I had a call center.

475
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I'm gonna teach you guys. This dial

476
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,360
Speaker 4: for dollars. You just dial for dollars. Back in the day,

477
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 4: I had to drive around, knock on doors and do whatever,

478
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 4: mailers and all the shit that we had to do

479
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 4: when we first started the business. So I'm like, here's

480
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 4: a list, dial for dollars. Whoever says yes they want

481
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 4: to meet with you, you have him come in the office,

482
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 4: or you meet with them, or do it over the phone.

483
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 4: So that lasted like a year. They were doing spitballs

484
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 4: and fart and all the shit. I'm like, okay, everybody's

485
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 4: fired except my son. So Michael's like, Mom, I really

486
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 4: need them all to go so I can concentrate. So

487
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 4: I said, on your board in your office, I want

488
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 4: you to write down what your minimum goal is to

489
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 4: sell policies. So let's say he wanted to sell ten

490
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,239
Speaker 4: policies a month or twenty whatever the number is. So

491
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 4: you don't end that month until you do all ten

492
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 4: policies or by the premium, and then if you're short,

493
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 4: you've fallen into the next month. Okay, so let's say

494
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 4: you wanted to write five thousand dollars in premium. So

495
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 4: one month he wrote for he's got to move that

496
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 4: thousand over, son, I's got to write six thousand six months.

497
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 4: And he said, I never fell behind because I never

498
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 4: wanted to roll it over. I mean he's making he's

499
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 4: over three hundred thousand, and he's in Spain right now,

500
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 4: working remote. He travels the world. He's loving life.

501
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: So he's not married, doesn't have kids, no joy his life.

502
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 4: It's tried the relationship things, and it's gone well until

503
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 4: a lot of the girls he's stated have their handout

504
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 4: and they want to be taken care of, and from

505
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: a mama that works. His sister works, My sister were workers.

506
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 4: We just work. We don't look for a handout, right

507
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 4: or wrong, We just don't.

508
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: But how interesting, though, because I think that some men

509
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: have come to you looking for a handout.

510
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, would you say that?

511
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 4: Of course? Good good, good analysis. And I always thought

512
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 4: I can do this because many times men take care

513
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 4: of women. Why can't I take care of my man?

514
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you, nothing wrong with it at all.

515
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: It's like whoever can do it. Let's just do it

516
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 4: and enjoy life together. My current boyfriend, he's one hundred

517
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 4: percent independent. I wrote down eighteen things that I needed.

518
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 4: Independent entrepreneur, not a nine to five allah, non smoker,

519
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 4: non drinker, you know all that shit. So it worked

520
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 4: because I manifested him. But also I wanted to be

521
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 4: the one that I didn't think they'd ever leave me

522
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 4: because I was. I was a bread winner. I was

523
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 4: taken care of them, and I don't want to be left.

524
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 4: I have fear of being alone.

525
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: Okay, is that abandonment issues?

526
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 4: Probably? Okay, I just don't like being alone. I want

527
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 4: a partner.

528
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: You want companionship.

529
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: But your boyfriend now lives in a different state, in

530
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: a different state, ish, so oh.

531
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 4: Go to work out for too long? So he moved

532
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 4: to Arizona. He's the developer and last weekend he was

533
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 4: home and he's like, I don't think it's going to work.

534
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 4: I go what because being a part I don't like it.

535
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,959
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, So I had to let him go

536
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,239
Speaker 4: do it because I want to control him and all that.

537
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 4: So he's moving back.

538
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: I love that because you got mood. Will he live

539
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 2: with you?

540
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 4: He has been Yeah, he has been for two years.

541
00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 2: Good.

542
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm happy for you because I feel like

543
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: your heart is always in the right place from what

544
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: I've what I've seen, and when you and I talk,

545
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: your heart's always in the right place. So if you

546
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: could talk about the from the days of dawn to

547
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: let's let's count the guy you're with now out and

548
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: who was the last night?

549
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 4: So it was Brooks and Steve. So so Mike is

550
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 4: now okay, my first husband. So I was married for

551
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 4: thirty years. So I was married to Mike for nine

552
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 4: and Don for twenty ish. Don and I would have

553
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 4: never gotten divorced if we if I wasn't on a

554
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 4: reality show. I know that to be true. So I

555
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 4: love marriage. I love being together. We both went sideways

556
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 4: for a lot of reasons. Yeah, books, I wanted to

557
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 4: take care of He was from Mississippi. He had bad teeth,

558
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 4: he had stupid clothes. I'm like, come on to California.

559
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go take you to Bloomingdale's and north Stum's

560
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 4: and Saxoonore, gonna get you all the wardrobe and get

561
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 4: out of the clock crack.

562
00:26:59,040 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: He was your project.

563
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 4: He was in my project that I had to get

564
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 4: him a car and kind of do all this shit

565
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 4: for him. So I did. I got a Marine droverer.

566
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 4: He fit into Orange County very good, and you know

567
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 4: how that went. So that didn't work. Five years of

568
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 4: wasted my life. And then I met Steve, who's a narcissist.

569
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 4: I didn't know what a narcissist was until you're with one,

570
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 4: and then you go through the therapy and the trauma

571
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 4: bonding and all that stuff. So that sucked. He left

572
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 4: me for a thirty five year old.

573
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, well.

574
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 4: He's sleeping with me. He was banging this bimbo school

575
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 4: teacher that she met him at a bar. She said

576
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 4: he was rich and famous. He's neither one.

577
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: So out of those three, Dawn Brooks and Steve, who

578
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: did the biggest number on you and would say like that,

579
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: that one was the hardest to recover.

580
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 4: Brooks okay, you know, because he claimed he had cancer

581
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 4: and I was supporting him and supporting him and supporting him,

582
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 4: and I was going to work every day and Meghan

583
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 4: King Edmunds decided to ask for his medical records. And

584
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 4: I don't know what's true or not, but he wasn't

585
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 4: going to produce him and then they said he led

586
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 4: up cancer.

587
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: So I don't know, how do you feel about Meghan?

588
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 4: I want nothing to do with her?

589
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: Okay, you want nothing to do with her?

590
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 4: Okayro She wasn't smart enough to know this is just

591
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 4: a reality show. You don't hurt people's lives. But because

592
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 4: I'm a fiduciary, and because I'm with the National Ethics gurou,

593
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 4: you can't go after me and say I faked cancer

594
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: because I ensure people, right, So what type of ethics

595
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: do I have if I'm lying to the public saying

596
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 4: that my boyfriend has cancer and he doesn't. So it

597
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 4: was just an icky thing and it was a horrible experience,

598
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 4: and she wasn't smart enough to say, you know what,

599
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 4: this this is a TV show and I'm not going

600
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: to hurt VICKI.

601
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: I understand that taking Megan out of it. Were there

602
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: moments behind those doors that you had with Brooks where

603
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: you had a feeling You're like, something is fishy, Like

604
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: please tell me if this is real or not?

605
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he would say, of course it's real. I'm

606
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 4: just not exposing my medical records.

607
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: That's when he would make it make sense.

608
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was like, you know what, you have

609
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 4: that right. You're not getting paid to do this show.

610
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 4: You don't have to show me or anybody. Don't don't

611
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 4: do it. If you're not comfortable with it, don't do it.

612
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 4: So it made sense to me, and I just I'm like,

613
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 4: I love you, I believe you. Why wouldn't I believe him?

614
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 4: Why would somebody ever lie to me about can't.

615
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: Sold about something like that? Right, it's almost unfathomable. Do

616
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: you even know where he is now?

617
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 4: He's in Florida or Mississippi. Got married right away, so

618
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 4: does Steve? Married right away? Both of them?

619
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, You're like, good luck, Chuck, your luck

620
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: shot them and then they go.

621
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 4: It's like, oh my god, girl, what are you thinking?

622
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, there we go.

623
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: Did you watch last season of Oh See?

624
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,239
Speaker 4: Really? I mean I watch it with my you know,

625
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: like this is boring me and I and it's so scripted,

626
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 4: typical of what Tamra was going to do the whole season.

627
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 4: And I'm just disgusted by her because she at one

628
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 4: time was a really good friend of mine and she.

629
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: Nut I do miss that friendship. I missed the trace amigas.

630
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: I really miss me some Vi.

631
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 4: And Shannon and I are still friends. It's just too

632
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 4: bad that she couldn't just be kind, you know, she

633
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 4: don't stand that walk stuff. And then she wants in

634
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 4: a oh, I'm sorry, I love you. No, you don't

635
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 4: you hurt me like you don't. This is a this

636
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 4: is a TV show girl. I'll just keep staying your lane. Right.

637
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: How did you feel about Alexis Billino? Are you guys friends?

638
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 4: No, she's a bimbo.

639
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: No, no, but I so I was in Palm Springs,

640
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: VICKI and my mom told me. We're eating at this

641
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: restaurant downtown Palm Springs and I see Jim walk by

642
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: and I say to my mom, you know Alexis. That's

643
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: her ex husband, and she goes, well, you know, he

644
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: has a rest here. And I was like, oh, I

645
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: wonder what it's called. And I like look up at

646
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: the sign and I'm like and she goes, what's his name?

647
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: I said, his name's Jim. Jim What Jim Blino? We're here,

648
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: Jimmy be So he comes up. He was so kind

649
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: and he goes, you know, if you don't know me,

650
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm Alexis Billino's ex husband. And I was like, yo,

651
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Speaker 1: trust me, I know all about it, he goes, Wow,

652
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: what a shit show. She definitely made me look much

653
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: better though, so even he had some thoughts.

654
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Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't get mad that I'm I'm talking

655
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Speaker 2: like that.

656
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Speaker 5: But you know, Jim's good guy. Jim's I mean, I've

657
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 5: known him loosely, but you know, he's never done anything

658
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 5: wrong with me, and he's a good guy. But I

659
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 5: think he still supports Alexis, crazy as that is. Really,

660
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 5: she's got three kids, ones in college. I think two

661
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 5: are approaching graduating.

662
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Speaker 1: I don't think that Johnny Jay and Alexis. I don't

663
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: think it will last because I think there was a

664
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: high for them.

665
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Speaker 4: They're not gonna get married.

666
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: No, they were like bonding over this TV show. Now

667
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: no one gives a shit. They had their moment last season,

668
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: but I'm like, it was so embarrassing to watch that

669
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: whole thing, and Shannon was just like off tear Chef's cause.

670
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 4: She did great. I was really proud of her, but

671
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 4: you know, there's the door, shut the door.

672
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: It's like so stupid.

673
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 4: Script that and then she then production said yeah they did,

674
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: she did stay it in the car. How many times

675
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 4: am I going to say that before it sounds right,

676
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: like Bimbo. She didn't last, right, she was a friend.

677
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 4: She didn't last. She's done.

678
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: What's happening with Gretchen?

679
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 4: So I like Gretchen. I'm happy for It's bizarre. She

680
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 4: hasn't been on for like, I don't know, nine, ten,

681
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 4: eleven years. She hasn't been out the long time.

682
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Speaker 2: Does she have an does she have an orange or

683
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Speaker 2: is she just a friend of.

684
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Speaker 4: The friend of She has a daughter, Skyler, beautiful Skyler.

685
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 4: She's been with Slade now like fifteen years.

686
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Speaker 2: That's wild.

687
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 4: I know because he dated Lauri and Joe when we

688
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 4: first started Slaying and I started a long long time ago.

689
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 4: Slay went through the ringer and Tamra did it to

690
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 4: him and it was humiliating, embarrassing. And I think Gretchen

691
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 4: has some paybacks to her, Like, you know, she's going

692
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 4: to have an opinion on how really Tamra treated Slave.

693
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: I think it'll be good.

694
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they're still together, going strong. They're like

695
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: the Bravo version of Headie and Spencer Pratt. No one

696
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: thought it would work. It seemed one way, but it

697
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: ended up being fabulous.

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00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 4: It did.

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Speaker 2: My last question for you before I let you go

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Speaker 2: enjoy your day.

701
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Speaker 4: I'm going to l A. Are you guys in La.

702
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: We're in La. We're happy to have you here.

703
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 4: Well, and you want Doug Beuten's cooking kibbets a couple hours.

704
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 2: That's going to be so fun. Yeah, a heyday.

705
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: I have actually two questions for you three. Would you

706
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: ever go back to Real Housewives of Orange County?

707
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 4: Of course with an Orange?

708
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 2: With an Orange? No, friend of business.

709
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 4: You don't know what's going on. You don't know what's

710
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 4: I've got up here at a dinner scene and Tampas

711
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 4: calling Shannon a con. I'm like, what what just happened? What?

712
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 4: It was very difficult for me.

713
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: No. I watched it in your face and you cried.

714
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: You were like, this is not what we do to

715
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: each other. You could tell that you were somewhat in

716
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: a different headspace than when we last saw you.

717
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 1: The other question is what was the best thing to

719
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: come out of doing Real Housewives of OC meeting you?

720
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 4: So I just feel the relationships that came from it.

721
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 4: And also I was always very insecure. I didn't like

722
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 4: the public speak. I do speeches now all the time

723
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 4: for my work, retirement planning seminars, I can go on

724
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 4: a TV show, I'm not nervous. I think the confidence

725
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 4: that it brings to you think.

726
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I agree with you.

727
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: It brought a completely different type of confidence because you

728
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: almost have to fake it until you make it.

729
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: Like you said, you dress for success.

730
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I did when I would be

731
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: on camera because I was very intimidated by just life

732
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: and not everyone would say, you're so confident. I'm like,

733
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: I am the least confident person on the planet. But

734
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: if I show that, this world will break me down, right, So, yeah,

735
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: I agree with you. It does bring confidence. Is there

736
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: one thing that you look at and you're like, this

737
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: was the worst thing to come out of signing up

738
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:32,479
Speaker 1: for that show?

739
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 4: My divorce. Probably my divorce. I divorced a good guy

740
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 4: and that was that I regret. And I even tell

741
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 4: my daughter last night. I was talking to Brianna and

742
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 4: she's really close with Dan. I said, you know what

743
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 4: if I could do a redo and this was twelve

744
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 4: years ago, and she goes, you still think about it?

745
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 4: I said, yeah, because I broke up the family's dynamic,

746
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 4: you know. And he wasn't third father because I was

747
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 4: married first to Mike. The debut Dad and then came

748
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 4: in three years later. But I still feel the show

749
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 4: definitely changed me. It changed us because I was traveling.

750
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 4: We never spoke on the phone. He was traveling with work.

751
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 4: We were just going two different directions. We were an

752
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 4: intimate at all. I was like, what in the hell

753
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 4: am I doing here? I'm in my early fifties and

754
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 4: I'm miserable. So I think that that is my biggest regret.

755
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: That breaks my heart because I am watching the episodes

756
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: where you're with Dawn and he. I really loved you

757
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: guys together.

758
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 4: We weren't good married, we're good people, like we would

759
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 4: do good and then we'd go home and then he'd

760
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 4: yell at me about something that I did. I'm like,

761
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 4: I didn't say that. He's like and yell. I don't

762
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: like yelling.

763
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: You shut down.

764
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 4: I just get like, I walk out the room. I'm like,

765
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 4: I can't be yelled at. This is disgusting. I'm you

766
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 4: know of age, you don't yell at me. Right, So

767
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: then it was starting to get like so much tension

768
00:36:59,360 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 4: all the time.

769
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: Are you guys still friends?

770
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 4: Ish?

771
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: Ish?

772
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 4: No, I would say, he's mad after you.

773
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 2: Wrote the check and divorced him. You were like, I'm good,

774
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: he's good.

775
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 4: I know that was not it was not a good day,

776
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 4: but I I care for him. I don't say we're

777
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say we're friends.

778
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm happy that Brianna still talks to it. Yeah,

779
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: that's great. Before I release you, I want to make

780
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: sure that your your kids are good. It sounds like

781
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: your son is living the dream. But you have four

782
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: grand babies. I do.

783
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 4: I don't get to see very much. That's a sad part.

784
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 4: They're in Oklahoma still. They moved out and they're super happy.

785
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 4: They got a beautiful farm. They got like three sheep

786
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 4: cow eighteen. They're just living their best life. And she

787
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 4: works full time and she's she's a perfect mom. She's

788
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 4: doing great.

789
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: Does she have four boys?

790
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 4: Three boys in my little Cora girl. She's going to

791
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 4: be three in a couple of weeks.

792
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: So, and I love the name.

793
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: I'm really happy for you, VICKI. I'm happy that your

794
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: guys moving back. I'm happy that the family as well.

795
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: You know, whether you're on our TVs in real time,

796
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: you will always be the most iconic housewive. You're a

797
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: household name. And I so enjoy going back and watching

798
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: you and I'm thrilled you are on the podcast today and.

799
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 4: We're going to put you on our podcast. My friend, myself,

800
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 4: my podcast. So the reason why we named that was,

801
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember the one episode I

802
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 4: was yelling at camera and I said, you're supposed to

803
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 4: be my friend, my soulmate, my friend, and we named

804
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 4: the podcast after me yelling at her because she.

805
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: Was me to Mel's Definitely, I was not planning on

806
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: having my two children in studio and I want to

807
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: give you my full attention when I do your podcast,

808
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: so once I i'm solo, I will be there.

809
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 4: Okay, we love you, I love you.

810
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: I have the best day. Say travel lay bye. Bye

811
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 2: you guys.

812
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to another episode of

813
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: the Give Them Lalla Podcast. I hope you enjoyed it

814
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: just as much as I did. Go out there, watch

815
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: some housewives.

816
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: And I will catch you guys next week. Bye,