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Speaker 2: though the Major League Baseball trade deadline, John Palmrosi, our

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Speaker 2: transpire this week. We have, we got some major League

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Speaker 2: gonna be talking about with John Paul MOROSEI is what

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Speaker 2: happened to the New York Mets. I mean, this was

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Speaker 2: dollars for the season. Now, both these pitchers struggled out

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Speaker 2: news as far as both Schurzer and Verlander's concern is

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Speaker 2: course has put himself in a position with a team

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Speaker 2: So Verlander scenes on top of the game. So we

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Speaker 2: the non trade, the show. Hey Otani, Now, if you

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Speaker 2: Hey Otani. Now, Rich, who's not here yet, to defend

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Speaker 2: his stance, said I think that's going a little extreme,

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Speaker 2: Marino and the Angels organization, in a doubleheader, he threw

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Speaker 2: the biggest story right now is Dalvin Cook is hanging

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Speaker 2: who reworks his deal leaves thirty five million dollars on

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Speaker 2: it suddenly makes them a more serious contender. So he's

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna get into the Dalvin Cook story. Also,

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Speaker 3: If I die tonight and Jonathan Taylor's out of the league,

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Speaker 2: Gee, don't you love to hear that? Is you're a

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Speaker 2: Well, part of the problem for A. J. Preller is

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Speaker 7: Well, Steve, I think that is one of the big

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Speaker 2: All right, So the Padres have been disappointing, to say

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Speaker 2: All right, So Verlander, what are the odds that ends

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Speaker 2: state he is off the trade market. And apparently he

433
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Speaker 2: was listening, because that's exactly what happened. And then, of course,

434
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Speaker 2: so Tani responded with a doubleheader that is won for

435
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Speaker 2: the Ages. It's one of those ripleys that will look

436
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Speaker 2: back fifty years from now saying did that actually happen?

437
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Speaker 2: Where a guy through a complete game one, hitch shutout

438
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Speaker 2: in Game one, then came back with two home runs

439
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Speaker 2: in Game two. So that being said, because he is

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Speaker 2: an Angel at least through the balance of this season,

441
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Speaker 2: what are you hearing in terms of Otani's future. I've

442
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Speaker 2: heard that he wants to stay on the West coast,

443
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Speaker 2: East coast teams stay away, has no interest to going

444
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Speaker 2: the East Coast, maybe the Mariners, maybe the Padres, maybe

445
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Speaker 2: the Giants, maybe staying with the Angels, Dodgers. I don't

446
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Speaker 2: think are in a play like some of these other teams.

447
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Speaker 2: But what are we hearing because we just are all

448
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Speaker 2: these wild trade rumors that were to me pure fantasy.

449
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Speaker 2: But what's the reality in your opinion about the future

450
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Speaker 2: of sho Hey Otani.

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Speaker 7: Well, a couple of things. Number One, I do think

452
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Speaker 7: that the West Coast might have a slight advantage, but

453
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Speaker 7: there's also, I think a broader case to be made

454
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Speaker 7: that Otani is much more familiar with the whole US

455
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Speaker 7: and in traveling and playing in this country than he

456
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Speaker 7: was when he first signed here. And obviously the West

457
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Speaker 7: Coast is closer to Japan, as there's maybe a little

458
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Speaker 7: bit of a higher comfort level there. So I do

459
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Speaker 7: think that there is an advantage for the West Coast.

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Speaker 7: I think there might be some scenarios in which he

461
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Speaker 7: would consider playing in spots that are not on the

462
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Speaker 7: West Coast. But the end of the day, Steve, someone

463
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Speaker 7: is going to have to convince Otani that they've got

464
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Speaker 7: a better on and off field situation and a better

465
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Speaker 7: chance to win the World Series than the Dodgers do,

466
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Speaker 7: because the Dodgers to me are the favorites until someone

467
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Speaker 7: proves otherwise. And sure, the Mets take, you know, take

468
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Speaker 7: your big time push and offer them a bunch of money,

469
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Speaker 7: go for it. But but he's already made a lot

470
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Speaker 7: of money, and the one thing he hasn't done yet

471
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Speaker 7: is is win. And so hypothetically, if the Dodgers offer

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Speaker 7: him half a billion dollars and the Mets say, well,

473
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Speaker 7: I'll offer you six hundred million dollars and it's even

474
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Speaker 7: a hundred million dollars difference, do I see him saying

475
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Speaker 7: no thanks to the to the half a billion and

476
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Speaker 7: signing with six hundred million to go to a team

477
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Speaker 7: that has a lower chance of winning. I really don't.

478
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Speaker 7: I think once you get to a certain point. I've

479
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Speaker 7: never had a half a million dollars in my life, Steve,

480
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Speaker 7: but I would assume that once you get to a

481
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Speaker 7: certain level, you're good and you just want to win

482
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Speaker 7: and be in a good situation. And you look at

483
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Speaker 7: the Mets right now, they're they're they're trading robbers and

484
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Speaker 7: they're trading sures or they might trade Verlander. Does that

485
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Speaker 7: seem really appealing to a player? I think East Coast,

486
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Speaker 7: West Coast really forget about it. From that standpoint. If

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Speaker 7: you're looking at it objectively, the Dodgers have a better

488
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Speaker 7: chance to win than the Mets do. And I think

489
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Speaker 7: that that's ultimately what it's going to come down to.

490
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Speaker 7: It's it's somebody has got to make a better case

491
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Speaker 7: than a team that's done nothing but make the playoffs

492
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Speaker 7: every single year for the last decade. Is on. The

493
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Speaker 7: West Coast has a rich tradition of international players. Okay,

494
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Speaker 7: if you can make a better argument than that, go

495
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Speaker 7: for it. But I don't see anybody, anybody really and

496
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Speaker 7: truly being able to make a better argument to Otani

497
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Speaker 7: than the Dodgers are going to be able to do

498
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Speaker 7: this winter.

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Speaker 2: Well, one thing I know about the baseball trade deadline.

500
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Speaker 2: Every single year there's one deal. No when he saw coming,

501
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 2: nobody saw coming. So we'll see what happens as we

502
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Speaker 2: count down the days.

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Speaker 4: JP.

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Speaker 2: Always appreciate the time. We'll check in with you next week.

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Speaker 7: Steve, all the best of my friend. Loved the conversation.

506
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Speaker 7: And I cannot believe we're almost to August. This is

507
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Speaker 7: such a great time of year, and let's go. We

508
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Speaker 7: got penn and races and football season. It's one of

509
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Speaker 7: the best months of the year.

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Speaker 2: All right, sounds so good. There there is the great

511
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Speaker 2: John Paul Morosi, our Fox Sports Radio MLB insider, excited

512
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Speaker 2: as we all are to see what kind of surprises

513
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Speaker 2: we're going to get once we get to the trade deadline.

514
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Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trending right now?

515
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Speaker 2: And Hello, Montsy, how are you?

516
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Speaker 8: Oh I'm hanging out. How are you?

517
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Speaker 2: I'm good.

518
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 8: I'm good.

519
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: I'm missing Rich you are we all are? Yeah, he's

520
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: somewhere on the East coast somewhere I know that. Yeah,

521
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 2: he's trying to get in a little family time right

522
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Speaker 2: before the football season gets ward of course, good, yes,

523
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 2: about this trade deadline in Major League Baseball, I am too.

524
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Speaker 8: You're right, something always happens that nobody expects.

525
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 9: That's so true. But don't expect Cody Bellinger no to

526
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Speaker 9: be traded. That is official. The Cubs have taken him

527
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Speaker 9: off the trade market.

528
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Speaker 2: They're on a roll.

529
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Speaker 8: They are on a roll.

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Speaker 9: And why would you trade He's been playing so well?

531
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Speaker 9: You know, sometimes you just gotta wait a second. Because

532
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Speaker 9: Bellinger had been hot and cold with the Dodgers the

533
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Speaker 9: last season, you know, So I'm glad he's doing well

534
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 9: right now.

535
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: Cold and hot, yeah, but no, you're right.

536
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 8: It ended cold. It did end cold. But now he's

537
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Speaker 8: playing well. So yeah, the Cubs are not trading Cody Bellinger.

538
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 8: They've won aid in row.

539
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Speaker 9: Going into their game today, they are three and a

540
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Speaker 9: half games behind the first place Brewers, who are playing

541
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Speaker 9: the Braves. They are about to get going, and they're

542
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Speaker 9: just three games out of the final Walkhart spot in

543
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Speaker 9: the NL, so they're.

544
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Speaker 8: In it for sure. Cody Bellinger isn't going anywhere.

545
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Speaker 9: The Angels did place outfielder Taylor Ward on the ten

546
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 9: day injured list. Did you see him get hit by

547
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Speaker 9: a pitch yesterday in the face.

548
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Speaker 8: It was not pretty.

549
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 9: He had his hand on his face and he removed

550
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 9: his hand and he just saw this blood gushing down.

551
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Speaker 8: It was not pretty.

552
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 9: Luckily, he does have some you know, fractures, but there

553
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 9: was no damage to a site, So that's what's important.

554
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 8: It's always scared, always scary.

555
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 9: Surgery, recovery time, all of that is still up in

556
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 9: the air. Now let's move on to the NFL. I

557
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 9: got some sound here of Aaron Rodgers talking about Sean

558
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Speaker 9: Payton's comments that he had earlier this week. It's about

559
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 9: fifty seconds, so just just be patient.

560
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 8: Here we go.

561
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Nathaniel Hackett and those comments were very

562
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Speaker 3: surprising for a coach to do that to another coach.

563
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: My love frat goes deep. You know, we had some

564
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: great years together in Green Bay. Kept in touch, love

565
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 3: him and his family. He's an incredible family man, incredible dad,

566
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Speaker 3: and on the field, you know, he's arguably my favorite

567
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 3: coach I've ever had in the NFL. Just his approach

568
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: to it, how he makes it fun, how he cares

569
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: about the guys, just how he goes about his business

570
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 3: with respect, with leadership with honesty, with integrity, and it

571
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Speaker 3: made me feel bad that someone who's accomplished a lot

572
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: in the league is that insecure that they have to

573
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Speaker 3: take another man down to set themselves up for some

574
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Speaker 3: sort of easy fall if it doesn't go well for

575
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: that team this year. Thought it was way out of line, inappropriate,

576
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: and I think he needs to keep my coaches names

577
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Speaker 3: out of his mouth.

578
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Speaker 2: By the way, I know these teams face each oil.

579
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Speaker 2: I think week four the NFL season. I don't think,

580
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Speaker 2: I don't I mean Aaron Rodgers just talking, but I

581
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: guess said I think there was there was a reason.

582
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: Sean Payton is not an idiot by any stretch of

583
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Speaker 2: the imagination. Yeah, so there is a reason he said

584
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Speaker 2: what he said.

585
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Speaker 4: Now.

586
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Speaker 2: I know he tried to walk it back, saying he

587
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Speaker 2: was still wearing his Fox ask right right. Well, maybe

588
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: he had a couple of lattaes that morning and just

589
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: sort of ran at the mouth, but there was a

590
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: very specific intention of why he said what he said.

591
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Speaker 2: I'll talk about that.

592
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Speaker 8: Oh good, oh good.

593
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Speaker 9: And two games, well, now three games officially in Major

594
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 9: League Baseball, but only one has a score. Angels Blue

595
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 9: Jays tied out when a piece top of the sixth

596
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 9: inning back to you.

597
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: By the way, Otania game has a hit a walk,

598
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: he's still hitting over three hundreds, and.

599
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 8: Now, of course he is.

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Speaker 2: He's ridiculous. He's ridiculous, Monzie, Thank you very much. We're

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605
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Speaker 2: story in the NFL, the off the cuff remarks by

606
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: Sean Payton, the coach of the Denver Broncos, ripping Nathaniel

607
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: Hackett for good reason. Hackett was a disaster as a

608
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: head coach, and some of the players openly talked about that.

609
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: It really began in training camp where Hackett's hands off

610
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 2: approach proved to be a disaster. Maybe his concept was

611
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Speaker 2: I'm bringing in a veteran quarterback, Russell Wilson, who will

612
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: jump into that locker him and take leadership ownership of

613
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: that locker room. Except he quickly found out that that's

614
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: not Russell Wilson. Just because your quarterback doesn't necessarily make

615
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: you a leader. So not only did Hackett alienate himself

616
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: with a team, but so did Russell Wilson, So it

617
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: was a double whammy. Here's the thing, the reason Sean

618
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: Payton said what he said is that he walks into

619
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Speaker 2: that locker room. Remember the offseason program, you don't really

620
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Speaker 2: have everybody together, but when you come into training camp

621
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Speaker 2: and you're a head coach and new coach of a team,

622
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 2: you get to sort of get a sense of the

623
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: locker a full locker room, and he saw a bunch

624
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: of guys trying to figure out are we as bad

625
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: as five and twelve? Said we were a year ago,

626
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 2: and so I feel like he wanted to make it

627
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: clear that no, you guys are good enough to be

628
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Speaker 2: a twelve and five team, not a five and twelve team.

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Speaker 2: Do not look in the mirrors. Had nothing to do

630
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Speaker 2: with you, and this had everything to do with the

631
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Speaker 2: coaching staff. Now you put it out there like that,

632
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: especially when we're going to be facing this Jets team,

633
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: you put a target on your back, really against the

634
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: entire league. If you have a coach calling out another coach,

635
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: it's not a good look. But I think he wants

636
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: to create an atmosphere in Denver where it's us against

637
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: the world something that it's like a shock value to

638
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: get this team back on track. Now, will it work?

639
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. You still got to get Russell Wilson

640
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: to play like he did back in the day. But

641
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Speaker 2: I get why he did what he did. And so

642
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: let's put it this way. People are talking about the

643
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: Broncos now. I mean, you're in a division with the

644
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: best team in football. The Chiefs, the Chargers and Raiders

645
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: are sort of unknown quantities. You should be the second

646
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: best team in that league if everyone on that team

647
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: plays to a certain level. But I think he needed

648
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: sort of a shock value, sort of get the attention

649
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Speaker 2: to this team. Whether they're happy about it, I don't

650
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: know what's I don't know what the conversation is in

651
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Speaker 2: the locker room. By the way, have we heard anything

652
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Speaker 2: from Russell Wilson publicly about nothing? Isn't that weird because

653
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson usually is pretty free flowing with conversation. He

654
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Speaker 2: hasn't said anything about these comments from his head coach.

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Speaker 2: All right, coming up on the other side, we got

656
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Speaker 2: more NFL news for you. Training camps are busy. Where

657
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: are these running backs gonna end up. Are they going

658
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: to be on the trade block? Are they going to

659
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: sign new deals? We got the latest. This is Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin here. We don't know about Rich today.

661
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: We're still keeping our fingers crossed. The miracle will happen,

662
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: but if not, we move forward. I have Monce here,

663
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Speaker 2: I have Sam here, I have Bo here. So it's

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Speaker 2: a team effort. By the way, we're live from the

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Speaker 2: ti iraq dot com studios. I'm watching this Senior Open Championship.

666
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 2: The weather is unreal like, it is windy. They've got

667
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Speaker 2: the ski caps on, and now they're going to have

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Speaker 2: a playoff. Now, these are senior guys. These guys are

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Speaker 2: all over fifty years ago. So Chaca and Harrington are

670
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Speaker 2: going to go to a playoff. The win is howling

671
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Speaker 2: right now. At some point you sort of watch the

672
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: condition saying, should I really be out here right now?

673
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Speaker 2: Is this really all worth it? I feel for these guys,

674
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Speaker 2: but they got a playoff coming up here in the

675
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Speaker 2: Senior Open Championship, all right, talking to little NFL football.

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Speaker 2: By the way, guys, Thursday's Today Hall of Fame game

677
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Speaker 2: coming up between the Jets and the Browns on Thursday,

678
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Speaker 2: just like that. I mean it used to be you

679
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 2: used to have training camp for like a full month,

680
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Speaker 2: more than a month before you actually get to that

681
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Speaker 2: first preseason game. And then of course you had more

682
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 2: preseason games back in the day than you have now.

683
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Speaker 2: Now they just get right to it.

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Speaker 8: I think that's what people want exactly.

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Speaker 2: And this and again, let's go back to twenty twenty.

686
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: We had to shut down with COVID, right, and all

687
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: these other sports were, you know, scrambling to try to

688
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: get some kind of a season in, and the NFL

689
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: is like, no, we're gonna have a full season. We're

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00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: gonna have a full season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if there's an outbreak, we can move games around. Again.

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Speaker 2: We'll look back on the twenty twenty NFL season as

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Speaker 2: one of the great miracles of all time. Yeah, because

695
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Speaker 2: there were no games canceled.

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Speaker 8: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: They got a full season in at the height of COVID.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, And that's that's really like when it felt like

699
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Speaker 10: the NFL offseason got shorter too.

700
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Speaker 2: There was no offseason, there were no preseason games, there

701
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Speaker 2: was no real training camp, and they just started Week one.

702
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Speaker 2: And I remember watching some of those games, thinking looks

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Speaker 2: normal to me.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I remember. I always remember watching the Bucks and

705
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Speaker 10: the Chiefs open the season or know who did they

706
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 10: open the season with the Bucks and the Chiefs or yeah? Yeah,

707
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Speaker 10: So like that was crazy in the back studio over

708
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Speaker 10: here covering that game by myself because we still had

709
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Speaker 10: COVID protocols here. But yeah, it just feels like when

710
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Speaker 10: we had that whole twenty twenty, like with nothing going

711
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Speaker 10: on that whole summer. Once we got sports back, like

712
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 10: everything the calendars has been compacted since then, it's crazy here.

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Speaker 2: Here's one of the great fallacies of all time. So

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00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: a lot of people feel, first of all, when it

715
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: comes up to the makeup of an NFL roster, ninety

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Speaker 2: nine percent of the teams in this league, their roster

717
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 2: is already predetermined. There may be a couple of slots open. Obviously,

718
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: injuries can happen and you got to fill an injured spot.

719
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Speaker 2: But the idea that somebody could earn a spot on

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Speaker 2: the roster because what they do in a preseason game

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Speaker 2: is pure fiction. That doesn't happen. I can remember working

722
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Speaker 2: for the Raiders way back in the day. We had

723
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Speaker 2: a running back that was like a fifth round pick.

724
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Speaker 2: And I'll never get this guy's name. His name was

725
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Speaker 2: Dan Reader. And we went to Cleveland for a preseason

726
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Speaker 2: game and this guy ran wild. I mean after the game,

727
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: everybody's talking about this guy like wow, I mean, this

728
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: guy is really going to be great. Two days later

729
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: he was cut. I don't know if he might have

730
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Speaker 2: had a cup of coffee in the NFL, and I'm like, wait,

731
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Speaker 2: I saw this guy in the preseason looked great. These

732
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Speaker 2: decisions on who makes the roster and who doesn't make

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Speaker 2: the roster have zero to do with preseason football games none.

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Speaker 2: I mean they make good like when you got hard

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Speaker 2: knocks on. We're watching these preseason games and they're always,

736
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Speaker 2: you know, spotlighting some obscure guy, and they're always cut. Always,

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Speaker 2: it's always bye by. It doesn't matter what they do

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Speaker 2: in the preseason.

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Speaker 6: Hey Steve, Yes, how about how about the Packers wishing

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Speaker 6: a happy birthday to one of their players and then

741
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Speaker 6: they release him on the same day. Sure, yeah, kind

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Speaker 6: of a Yeah, it didn't communicate with the social media.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the department the Turk Canada of a birthday cake

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Speaker 2: on the way out. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean the

745
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Speaker 2: deciding factor on who makes a roster and who doesn't

746
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: make a roster. All of this is done behind the

747
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: scenes that they're you know, there's a lot involved, and

748
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Speaker 2: obviously with a cap situation, money's a big part of

749
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Speaker 2: it as well. So there really is no need at

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Speaker 2: all for preseason games. None. The control scrimmages makes sense

751
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Speaker 2: m hm, because teams want to work on something very specific,

752
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: so they will go to the other team saying, this

753
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: is exactly what we're working on. What do you need

754
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 2: to work on? That is far more productive than just

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Speaker 2: throwing a bunch of anonymous plays like we're gonna see

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Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame game on Thursday out in

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Speaker 2: the field.

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Speaker 4: It is meaningless.

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Speaker 2: These are not players that are gonna be playing in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three in the NFL.

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Speaker 10: Is there any chance Aaron Rodgers takes a snap on Thursday?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 2: Zero right, zero zero? If he might walk out on

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Speaker 2: the field and take a knee on the first play

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Speaker 2: of the game and wave to the crowd and walk

767
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Speaker 2: off the field, why do you need to see Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 2: Why why would you take any chances at all? I

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Speaker 2: guess it makes absolutely no sense, all right? Much more on, yes,

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Speaker 2: by the way, one side note, I want to get

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Speaker 2: how many people out there watched the show Winning Time

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Speaker 2: on HBO Max. Look back at the Showtime Lakers. It

796
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Speaker 2: was very controversial first season, especially with one Jerry West,

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Speaker 2: who I think is filing a lawsuit to the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court of the way he was characterized in they show.

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Speaker 2: a very familiar voice in a number of episodes in

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Speaker 2: season two. I did episodes in season one, three of them.

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Speaker 2: I've actually done five episodes in season two. I also

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Speaker 2: actually shot a scene for season two on camera scene Now,

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00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 2: this was pretty hilarious. So I get a call from

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Speaker 2: the producers of the show. So they have a scene

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Speaker 2: where the Magic Johnson character is asleep in a hotel

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Speaker 2: bed somewhere and he has his alarm clock set to

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Speaker 2: talk radio. And my talk radio presence on the show

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Speaker 2: is always critical of the Showtime Lakers, of Jerry Boss

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Speaker 2: goes off to the talk radio and he hears my

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Speaker 2: voice ripping into him, so he hits the snooze button

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, my voice is back on.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not on the radio. I'm actually in the

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Speaker 2: room with him with a microphone in my hand, kneeling

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Speaker 2: at the edge of his bed. Now, when I went

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Speaker 2: down to shoot this scene, because this takes place in

818
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 2: the eighties, I don't know if this is good or bad.

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Speaker 2: So I walk in, because you have to go to hair, makeup, wardrobe.

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Speaker 2: This is I mean, this is you know, it's a

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Speaker 2: big time production on television. So I go into the

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Speaker 2: trailer where the lady is for hair and I walk in.

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Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I'm sportscaster number one, and she goes,

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Speaker 2: I don't have to do anything with your hair, like

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00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: your hair is nineteen eighty two, which is sort of

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Speaker 2: funny because like, my hairstyle really has never changed ever

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Speaker 2: since I was accurate. It was accurate. She's like, I

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Speaker 2: literally because everyone else has got sort of like a

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three haircut, and you don't like yours. Yours

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Speaker 2: could fit nineteen eighty two. So I was laughing, and

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Speaker 2: we did the wardrobe thing. I mean, it's such an

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Speaker 2: involved thing. Guys aren't comfortable trying on clothes, taking clothes off,

833
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: and they were just doing one thing after another just enough.

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Speaker 8: It's not just guys that's annoying.

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Speaker 2: It's so annoying. Anyway, I was. I was like, for

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Speaker 2: an hour, I'm I'm trying non different outfits circa nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty two. I was laughing because I said, most of

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Speaker 2: these clothes I actually had in my closet in nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty two. I should have kept him, save you some time.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, the next Monday was Friday. Next Monday, we

841
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Speaker 2: go down to shoot the scene and I walk into

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Speaker 2: the trailer. The lady that said my hair was perfect nineteen.

843
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: She sits me down. She goes, I want to put

844
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Speaker 2: some stuff in your hair. I'm want to really poof

845
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Speaker 2: it out like nineteen eighty three. I'm like, what I

846
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: thought you said it was okay. So she's putting this

847
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: junk in my hair and she's blowing it out. I'm

848
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 2: looking up. I look like Ace Ventura. I'm like, hell's

849
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Speaker 2: going on? This is the what you want me to

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Speaker 2: look like on the show. So she calmed it down

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Speaker 2: a little bit. So anyway, we shot the scene and

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Speaker 2: I think it got the cutting room floor.

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Speaker 4: H Who.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my partner in the scene. He was upset about

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Speaker 2: maybe us getting cut out. I reminded him, did anyone

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00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: see the movie ET? Yes, like the whole world saw ET. Right.

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Speaker 2: You remember how great Harrison Ford was in at No No. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Harrison Ford, who obviously by that time had also done

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Speaker 2: Raiders of Lost Arkans plus The Star Wars, was the

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Speaker 2: biggest star in Hollywood. Spielberg after directing him in Raiders

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Speaker 2: of the Lost Arc, apparently, Harrison Ford went to Spielberg

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00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: and said, Hey, I'd love to be part of your

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Speaker 2: next movie. And so they wrote a scene where Harrison

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Speaker 2: Ford plays like a teacher of the little boy.

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Speaker 8: Huh.

866
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 2: He actually shot the whole scene. Spielberg cut it, Ah,

867
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: Harrison Ford. So when my buddy was like, go we

868
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 2: got cut, I'm like, Harrison Ford got cut. So it

869
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: happens all the time.

870
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, you are the same as Harrison Ford.

871
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: I'm not true, but if it happens to him, it

872
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: could happen and he us. Anyway, So it starts next Sunday,

873
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: season two. Winning time you'll hear in each episode some

874
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: kind of crack beat made on talk radio, and you'll

875
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: reckon Steve.

876
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 6: You know, Samuel L. Jackson recently in the news he

877
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 6: was very upset because he thought he would have won

878
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 6: an Academy Award for I Believe It's a Time to

879
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 6: Kill Yes, and he said, you know, there was some

880
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 6: scenes in the movie that are cut out, and he's like,

881
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 6: that cost me an Oscar. It happens all the time, sadly,

882
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 6: That's just how it goes sometimes.

883
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: Right, I mean there's movies all the time. I mean

884
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: you can always look it up. Some very very famous

885
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: actors actresses have had what they thought maybe Oscar winning

886
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: roles in movies that ended up on the cutting room floor.

887
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: So it happens all the time. All right, I'm looking

888
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: at Super Bowl odds. Guys, as we get into the season.

889
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 8: You already called the Super Bowl, remember I start of Remember, yes,

890
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 8: I wrote it down.

891
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: Who did I guarantee?

892
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 8: You said the Jets and the Lions.

893
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 2: Well, that's right, I mentioned the Jets and the Lions

894
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 2: because think about this. When the merger happened between the

895
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: AFL and the NFL back in nineteen seventy four, Super

896
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: Bowls had already been played, but it was really the

897
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: AFL NFL championship game.

898
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 4: So the two.

899
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 2: Leagues merged into a single NFL in nineteen six. At

900
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: the time there were twenty six teams in the league

901
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: thirty two. Now there twenty six then, of the twenty

902
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: six teams that were part of that merger in nineteen seventy,

903
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: since that year, only two of those teams have not

904
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: played in a Super Bowl, the Jets and the Lions.

905
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: The Jets played in the Super Bowl two years earlier.

906
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: The Lions have never been in a Super Bowl. He said, Well,

907
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: the Browns have never been in a Super Bowl. But

908
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: that Browns team became the Ravens right then they brought

909
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: in a new Cleveland Browns expansion team. So the only

910
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 2: two teams franchise, let's put it that way, that were

911
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: part of that merger in nineteen seventy, only two have

912
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 2: not played in a Super Bowl, Jets and the Lions

913
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: since that merger, And it could happen. Although I'm looking

914
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: at some of these odds right now, I mean, here's

915
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: something's a little bit baffling to me. So all last

916
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: as the defending Super Bowl champion Rams were in this

917
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: free fall. I know with Rich he was among many

918
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: that insisted that the twenty twenty two season was an aberration.

919
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: The Rams will be back. I'm looking at these Super

920
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 2: Bowl odds. Let's put it this way. The Bears are

921
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: considered a better Super Bowl bet than the Rams. So

922
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: that's a team that had the first pick in the

923
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: NFL draft, the words team in the league a year ago,

924
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: and it's not even close. Like the Rams right now

925
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: are like a plus seven thousand, no chance. So I'm

926
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: always I'm always trying to figure like, who who would

927
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: you say would be a good pick. I would imagine

928
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: if Matthew Stafford can come back, if Cooper cup can

929
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 2: come back, maybe the Rams could find their way. They

930
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: actually have. The Bears have better odds than the Patriots.

931
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 8: Who is this, Who's doing this?

932
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: This is Vegas, this is a consensus, this is Caesar's

933
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 2: fan duel bet. MGM. Yeah, the Bears have better odds

934
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: than the Patriots.

935
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 8: Huh.

936
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: So at the top of the list, obviously you have

937
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 2: the Chiefs and the Eagles, and then you had the Bills,

938
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers, and the Bengals. I wouldn't disagree

939
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: with any of those if I were to actually place

940
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: a serious bet, which is I don't bet on anything, what's.

941
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 8: A serious bet? For mister Hartman.

942
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 2: If I were forced to actually have to put my

943
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: own money on the line, I would take the safest

944
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 2: bet possible because I hate to lose. I am lousy

945
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: of gambling because gamblers, and I look at my best

946
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 2: The best man in my wedding was a bookie. So

947
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: I've been exposed to a lot of gamblers over the

948
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: course of my career in sports. Obviously, I just not

949
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: one of them. I don't have the gambler's mentality where

950
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: they just see past losing to get to the goal

951
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: of winning. But if I were to say I have

952
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 2: to put my own money on a team, it would

953
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: be one of those teams. To me, the Chiefs, Eagles, Bills,

954
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers, and Bengals are a clear cut above

955
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 2: every other team in this league. All right, So coming

956
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: up on the other side, I want to go over

957
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: some of these other teams that maybe could surprise. I mean,

958
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: certainly no one thought we would have a Rams Bengals

959
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: Super Bowl two years ago. Now a year ago you

960
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 2: had the two number one seeds make it to the

961
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, which, by the way, is a rare thing.

962
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: But it happened with the Eagles and the Chiefs. But

963
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: if you're really to go outside of Chiefs, Eagles, Bills,

964
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: forty nine, Ers, Bengals, which team is the best bet?

965
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: We'll tell you. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Steve Hartman here,

966
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday Live from the Tirak dot com studios.

967
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 2: We haven't given up hope on Rich today. We're still

968
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: still a chance you find this. Yes, I know many

969
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: times I date myself. It's a bad habit, but I

970
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 2: don't know. I've lived my life, you know, And that's

971
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: what do you share when you do radio over the years. So,

972
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: I was in college during the disco era. I was

973
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: made for disco skinny as a real I used to

974
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 2: have those polyester shirts buttons unbuttoned, you know, halfway down

975
00:52:53,320 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: my chest, really tight pants, really tight. I had sort

976
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: of the feathered out. It was sort of like hard

977
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: to describe. It was a long, long hair in the back,

978
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: you know. It wasn't a mullet. It was more of

979
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: like the flare out. Always the side part though, always

980
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 2: the side part. Do you ever wonder like, so Montsi,

981
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: what do you think you would have looked like back

982
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 2: in the disco era.

983
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 9: Oh, I definitely, but would have been wearing some bright

984
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 9: bell bottoms.

985
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 2: I had bell bottoms.

986
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, platform some platform I have those now, you know,

987
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 9: like Spice Girls brought the platforms back and now they're

988
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 9: back again.

989
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 8: So the platforms have always.

990
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 6: Been around sixties, I guess.

991
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 9: But yeah, for sure, bright colors. I probably want to,

992
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 9: you know, blow out my hair, make it really big.

993
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah, So I mean can

994
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: you imagine Bow and Sam back in the disco day.

995
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 8: Bow's mustache is working for the seventies right now.

996
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: It's a little bit.

997
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

998
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: I grew a mustache when I graduated high school in

999
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 2: seventy six. I was inspired by a movie called Lifeguard

1000
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: and Sam Elliott, who literally has one of the like iconic,

1001
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: like iconic you know, facial hair stranger. Yeah, mine was

1002
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: dirt on my upper lip at best. I don't know, Bow,

1003
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 2: what's what's the longest your hair has ever been?

1004
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 10: Bo shoulder length in high school?

1005
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1006
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Boa looks like he'd be one of the

1007
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 6: soldiers from like Apocalypse now or you know, full metal

1008
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 6: jacket or something. Yeah.

1009
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 10: My hair, my hair naturally does like the fairy fawcet

1010
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 10: curls though.

1011
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah does so.

1012
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 10: Yeah, I can't have long hair anymore. Yeah, yeah, it's.

1013
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: Done with Well we've seen Sam obviously with huge fro.

1014
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 6: I have a hat on today. But if I wash

1015
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 6: it and let it just dry, yeah, with the air,

1016
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 6: it gets pretty big and puffy.

1017
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, big big hair.

1018
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 11: Poy.

1019
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 4: I'll be there.

1020
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 10: Shout out to a lead to lap the most luscious

1021
00:54:59,160 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 10: locks of the Fox Sports.

1022
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 2: Does he does? I mean he really does? He really does.

1023
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 2: I mean when you have that much hair. The thing

1024
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 2: about the option, when you have really a lot of hair,

1025
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 2: is he gonna do anything with it?

1026
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 4: You know?

1027
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: Short, go high, you go long. I mean a guy

1028
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: like Brad Pitt, right, Pitt has how many different hairstyles

1029
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: we see with Brad Pitt? I mean he goes a

1030
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 2: kind of there are no limit to the options.

1031
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 8: Yes, he can go no wrong.

1032
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: So I want to see if all of us have

1033
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 2: a pick here, I'm going to exclude to win the

1034
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Well, you may not have heard this earlier.

1035
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: Five teams that I'm eliminating to win the Super Bowl.

1036
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 2: You cannot choose the Chiefs, the Eagles, the Bills, the

1037
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,479
Speaker 2: forty nine ers are the Bengals, because to me, those

1038
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 2: five teams are a clear cut above all other teams.

1039
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 2: So you can't pick the Chiefs, the Eagles, sorry Bo,

1040
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: the Bills, the forty nine ers are the Bengals. Which

1041
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 2: team other than those five? If you had to put

1042
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 2: your own money down, would you choose to win the

1043
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: Super Bowl?

1044
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 10: I'm going to regret this immediately upon saying it. But

1045
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 10: the Los Angeles Chargers.

1046
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 8: Wow, I was gonna say that too. What yeah, wh.

1047
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm gonna slow down for a

1048
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: second here on this one. Okay. So under Tom Telesco,

1049
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: the general manager of the Chargers, he's on his third

1050
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 2: coach and he's going to show you a little symmetry here.

1051
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: So the first coach he hired was Mike McCoy. In

1052
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: his first two seasons, he had a winning season both years,

1053
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 2: and one of those teams made the playoffs. The next

1054
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: coach he hired, and by the way, after that, he

1055
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: had two losing seasons and he was fired. Anthony Lynn,

1056
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 2: the next coach hired by Telesco. He also had winning

1057
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: seasons his first two years, one of which made the playoffs,

1058
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 2: and then had two leasing seasons and was fired. So

1059
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: now he has Brandon Staley, who in his first two

1060
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: years has had two winning seasons, made the playoffs one time. Now,

1061
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: if do you see any symmetry there? Know where the

1062
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 2: Chargers are heading in twenty twenty three.

1063
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 8: But they finally paid Justin Herbert, who I think is.

1064
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: Better than Philip Rivers.

1065
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, than Jalen Hurts you mean.

1066
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: Okay, talk about Justin Herbert who just blew what was

1067
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 2: at a twenty six to nothing lead in a playoff game.

1068
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 2: That Justin Herbery.

1069
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 8: Yes, I think he is. I think he is.

1070
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 9: Actually a great, great quarterback that we have not seen

1071
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 9: his full potential.

1072
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: Okay, My problem isn't with Justin Herbert. My problem was

1073
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: with Brandon Staley, who came in hyped as some kind

1074
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: of defensive guru after he was the defense. It's a

1075
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: coordinator of a Rams team that had the number one

1076
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: defense in the league. Of course, he als had to

1077
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald on his defense, which makes a whole lot

1078
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: of difference for any defense. So you two are sold

1079
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: on the Chargers, all right? So Sam, you can't pick again.

1080
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: You can't pick the Chiefs, Eagles, Bills, forty nine Ers,

1081
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: are Bengals. So what team are you putting your money

1082
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 2: down to win the Super Bowl?

1083
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 6: Steve, forget that because we have a major breakthrough here.

1084
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: Yet, rich Ornberger joining the show. Yes, it's a lot,

1085
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 2: it's a lot.

1086
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 4: I feel like I've landed on the moon.

1087
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: Take you How do I know that this is actually Rich?

1088
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: Can anybody verify that this is actually rich Ormberger?

1089
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 4: Of course it's Rich NFL pup veteran of six years

1090
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 4: with the Patriots, Cardinals at Chargers.

1091
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Ritchie, it's great to hear from you. So

1092
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: what happened like yesterday? I know you got on the

1093
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 2: morning show listening to you now for all of our listeners.

1094
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 2: I talked to you yesterday as a matter of fact.

1095
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, we spoke on the phone. Yeah.

1096
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 2: And so where are you right now? Because you're getting

1097
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: this as like the last family trip before we get

1098
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: ready for a very busy football season.

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00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's correct. So I am in Connecticut. I'm visiting

1100
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 4: with my sister and her family. They've got three kids.

1101
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 4: I have my two kids here. My rest of my

1102
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 4: family's visiting from New York, you know, and spending some

1103
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 4: time here on the East Coast. And I have brought

1104
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 4: all of my broadcasting equipment with me. As Sam can

1105
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 4: attest to, over the past two weeks, we've had a

1106
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 4: couple of technical glitches trying to get connected here and there.

1107
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 4: No big deal, right, We figured it out each time.

1108
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 4: But whatever happened, I don't know if there's a bug

1109
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 4: in the machine, if there's a ghost in the machine.

1110
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 4: But man, it took a solid hour and a half

1111
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 4: to get this thing figured out. So I have a

1112
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 4: feeling I'm gonna be returning said broadcast equipment to its

1113
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 4: manufacturer and getting this situation sorted out. Uh. So we

1114
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 4: don't have any future interferences, but in the meantime, I

1115
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 4: do want to point out and I do want to

1116
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 4: I do want to thank very graciously Moncey Bolanos for

1117
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 4: jumping in the host seed because we love Monsey.

1118
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 2: But it wasn't just mine. S Yeah, I mean you can't,

1119
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,959
Speaker 2: he can't. You have to say something about bow and Sam.

1120
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 4: Right, hang on, say hang on to say I'm getting there. Oh,

1121
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 4: and you get ahead of yourself, all right, And then

1122
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 4: I also want to thank Sam Kinsley for his uh

1123
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 4: unbelievable uh technical support chops.

1124
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 2: By the way, this is the same Sam fifteen minutes

1125
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: ago saying forget it, there's not going to be any

1126
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: rich rich They walked. He said riches ye done, host

1127
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 2: up and bye bye, bye bye and by the technical chops.

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Speaker 4: What I what I want to say about Sam is

1129
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 4: he was very supportive while I was over here hitting

1130
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 4: this thing with a hammer.

1131
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 6: I was sending gifts of old school operators putting cat

1132
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 6: patch cables into holes and stuff.

1133
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it started sort of like someone on life support,

1134
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: you know, and they're like trying to say positive things

1135
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 2: and then they leave the room and they got their

1136
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 2: head shaken, like you know, it's it's it's over.

1137
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 4: I also want to thank Bo for not communicating at all.

1138
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 4: He never got in the way at all. He just

1139
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 4: steered clear of He didn't want to have anything I was.

1140
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 10: I was searching for plane tickets out there to lend

1141
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 10: my help, but curious.

1142
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 2: Samysically the way Nathaniel Hackett coached the Broncos, that's right,

1143
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: that's not a lot of input. Now I would never

1144
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: be critical of I mean so because it's working with

1145
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 2: this group. They've know when it works with this.

1146
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 4: Group, very similar to the Denver Broncos. They've hired someone

1147
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 4: to wake him up when the show's over. That's what

1148
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 4: they've because Nathaniel Hackett needed somebody to wake him up

1149
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 4: to call the play in on the sideline. No Bo

1150
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 4: Bo was instrumental in all of this. Yeah, as always,

1151
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 4: And of course you Steve for I mean doing a tremendous,

1152
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 4: masterful job of tearing down the now Los Angeles Chargers

1153
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 4: at every time.

1154
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you know how much I enjoy

1155
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 2: destroying the chargers. But I I I and it's nothing personal. Yes,

1156
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: it's personal, Dean Spanos, you're listening very personal. Anyway, Let's

1157
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: let's put that aside for a second. I'm looking up

1158
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: at the clock right now. Yeah, it is time to

1159
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: find out what is trending. The aforementioned is hair. Yes,

1160
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 2: and Moncey was enjoying her input, although she was a

1161
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: little disappointed because she assumed that I would talk a

1162
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 2: little less, but she found out when you're not here, Rich, Yeah, No,

1163
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 2: the Diary of the Mouth is literally said diary or

1164
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 2: something else. Diarrhea.

1165
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 6: Oh okay, hey, it's not that much different from any

1166
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 6: other show where, especially during the NFL season, and a

1167
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 6: lot of us just have our mics ready to go.

1168
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 2: You know it is, you should jump in whatever.

1169
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys very much, and I mean if

1170
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 4: Bo Sam Monty, you guys.

1171
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 6: Curious, don't forget curious, Oh curious. Shout out to you,

1172
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 6: curious tour director.

1173
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 4: By the way, honestly, I don't think anything happens without Curius,

1174
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 4: so huge, huge pro for sure.

1175
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: He is on call twenty four to seven. Literally, yeah,

1176
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 2: he's our troubleshooter.

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Speaker 9: For the record, nobody thought you couldn't talk for four

1178
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 9: hours by yourself.

1179
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 8: For the record, nobody questioned that.

1180
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 9: We just were like, oh we can, you know, chime in,

1181
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 9: But nobody.

1182
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 8: We weren't stressed. Nobody was like, oh my god, but of.

1183
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 2: Course you have said many times the sound of my

1184
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 2: voice is so intoxicating them be I'm getting a high.

1185
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, of course you are. But none of us were worried.

1186
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 8: We were just like, oh, well, just chime in every

1187
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 8: now and then.

1188
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 4: Why not?

1189
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 8: That's all we were thinking. All right, guys, let's talk

1190
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 8: a little baseball.

1191
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 9: The trade deadline August first, almost here, But the Chicago

1192
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 9: Cubs have taken outfielder and soon to be a free agent,

1193
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 9: Cody Bellinger off the trade market. They're going to try

1194
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 9: to win nine in a row. They won eight in

1195
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 9: a row, which is pretty crazy right now though. In

1196
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 9: Major League Baseball, the Angels in the Blue Jays are

1197
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 9: tied at when a piece. The Angels did place their

1198
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 9: outfielder Taylor Ward on the ten day Angel list, who

1199
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 9: was hit in the face by a.

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01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 8: Pitch yesterday not pretty.

1201
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 9: Luckily, there was no damage to his site, he does

1202
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 9: have multiple fractures. Surgery and recovery time are still up

1203
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 9: in the air. The Braves now now retaking the lead

1204
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 9: over the Brewers at home. It is five to three

1205
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 9: bottom of the third inning, Philly's blanking the Pirates to zero.

1206
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 9: Top of the fourth, Tigers blanking the Marlins, who are

1207
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 9: just half a game out of the final wildcard spot

1208
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 9: in the NL, Tiger's blanking them four or zero. Top

1209
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 9: of the fourth inning, the Mets beating the Nationals three

1210
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 9: to one bottom of the third, the Rays blanking the Astros.

1211
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 9: That's right for zero, top of the second inning, and

1212
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 9: the Cardinals and the Cubs are going at it with

1213
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 9: Cardinals up one zero top of.

1214
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 8: The second inning.

1215
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 9: In the NFL, the Vikings and pass rusher danil Hunter

1216
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 9: have agreed to terms on a one year deal that

1217
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 9: can be worth up to twenty million with seventeen million guaranteed. Question,

1218
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 9: are you guys gonna talk about Julius Irving's top ten

1219
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:27,479
Speaker 9: players of all time?

1220
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 8: Is this on your list of topics?

1221
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 2: One one name? Yeah, I'll save that one, bye.

1222
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 8: Because we have it.

1223
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 4: We have it.

1224
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 8: The sound of him saying the tet now all right,

1225
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 8: save it, okay, perfect, That's what I wanted to know.

1226
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 8: All right, back to you guys.

1227
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: All right, Monty, thank you very much. Yeah, just save

1228
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 2: that because I do have some comments about the great

1229
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 2: Julius Irving, who I've had the good fortune of meeting

1230
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 2: on several occasions. Forty years ago, I actually interviewed him

1231
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 2: when he was still playing.

1232
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, you date yourself there, you did it again.

1233
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: I did it, but he was It was the first

1234
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 2: what I call superstar athlete that I ever actually interviewed.

1235
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: He was so nice. And then years later I met

1236
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 2: him again at an event, was like reintroduced to him,

1237
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 2: and he's just one of the nicest people you'll ever meet.

1238
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 2: I mean, that's about Julie Serving. So we'll go over

1239
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: that list a little bit later on. All right, Rich,

1240
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 2: Before you re entered the scene. We were asking everybody

1241
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 2: eliminating the Chiefs, Eagles, Bills, forty nine, Ers, and Bengals,

1242
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: because if you look at the Vegas odds, rich these teams,

1243
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: those five teams are like clearly the top five teams Chiefs, Eagles, Bills,

1244
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 2: forty nine, Ers, Bengals to win the Super Bowl. Pick

1245
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 2: a team other than those teams to win the Super

1246
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 2: Bowl with your own money. So you heard Bo and

1247
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 2: Monci both say the Chargers. You, of course, Sam did

1248
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: not get your choice out there, So who would you choose?

1249
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 6: I was too excited to bring Chin. But listen, I'm

1250
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 6: gonna go with sort of an unconventional pick here. I'm

1251
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 6: gonna say the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers two win the

1252
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 6: Super Bowl. Wow, great defense and Kenny Pikett. I don't

1253
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 6: know if I believe him him him yet, but he is.

1254
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 6: He's broken in so to speak, he's experienced now and

1255
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 6: why not let's go to Steelers.

1256
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 2: Well, I will say this, they have one of the

1257
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 2: best coaches in the NFL.

1258
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 6: Yes, he still has not had the losing record. The

1259
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 6: losing season, I should.

1260
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 2: Say, he only not a winning record last year to

1261
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 2: me was unreal.

1262
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 6: Could have won him Coach the Year if there weren't

1263
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 6: other great candidates.

1264
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: All right, so rich, which team? Because you're mister gambler,

1265
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: I know that if you had to put your own

1266
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 2: money down on a team other than the Chiefs, Eagles, Bills,

1267
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers a Bengals to win the Super Bowl

1268
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 2: this year, it would be.

1269
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 4: I have three that come to mind, but I'll give

1270
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 4: you my favorite of the three, the Jacksonville Jaguars. I

1271
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 4: think a lot of people sleep on Doug Peterson as

1272
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 4: a coach. I refuse to. I think he's not only

1273
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 4: an incredible quarterbacks coach, but a great offensive coordinator. He

1274
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 4: trusts his quarterbacks to help him see the field, you know,

1275
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 4: because he's calling plays from the sideline and he's got

1276
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 4: his coaches in the booth who helps set, you know,

1277
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 4: the table for what the defense is trying to do

1278
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 4: from a shell look, from an all twenty two look.

1279
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 4: But he also trusts his quarterbacks. And there's no greater

1280
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 4: example of that than when he's in the Super Bowl

1281
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 4: with Nick Foles, his backup quarterback in the game for

1282
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 4: him against Tom Brady and the New England Patriots, who

1283
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 4: have been there however many times it had been at

1284
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 4: that point eighth their eighth trip to the Super I

1285
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 4: mean a ridiculous number of times to the Super Bowl.

1286
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 4: And he goes Philly, Philly, and Doug Peterson looks at

1287
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 4: him like he's crazy, and he goes, actually, yeah you

1288
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 4: think and he goes, yeah, Philly, Philly. So they go

1289
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 4: out there and they run a trick play where Nick

1290
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 4: Foles catches a pass and the rest is history. You know,

1291
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 4: this is this is my idea of what coaching needs

1292
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 4: to be. He's the ultimate playing coach. He's a former player,

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Speaker 4: he's a former backup quarterback, so he understands what is

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Speaker 4: needed in the quarterback room to calm down and to

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Speaker 4: communicate with a starting quarterback who's handling the riggers of

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Speaker 4: a Sunday or a Monday night or a Thursday night.

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Speaker 4: And he made a believer out of me when he

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Speaker 4: was the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. And the

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Speaker 4: work he's done with Trevor Lawrence down there in Jacksonville

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Speaker 4: has proved to me that he's got the chops to

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Speaker 4: win a championship in Jacksonville again, assuming health and assuming

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Speaker 4: that this defense follows along in the footsteps of a

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Speaker 4: burgeoning championship level offense. I'm very high on the Jacksonville

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Speaker 4: Jaguars in a very winnable AFC South.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I like the Jags, but I look

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Speaker 2: at it this way. In order to make a deep

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Speaker 2: run in the playoffs, you give yourself a best chance

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Speaker 2: of getting to the Super Bowl. Winning in Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: you need home field at some point. In other words,

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Speaker 2: winning your division is imperative. It's not impossible. We've seen

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Speaker 2: wild card teams win super Bowls. It's just a really

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Speaker 2: hard road. That being said, the team I really believe

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Speaker 2: has a chance here because of the division they play

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Speaker 2: in is the Detroit Lions. Because I think we would

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Speaker 2: all agree that that thirteen and four record that the

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Speaker 2: Vikings posted a year ago was a mirage. You're outscored

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Speaker 2: and you lose four games, you win thirteen, and they

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Speaker 2: actually gave up more points over the course of the

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Speaker 2: season than you scored. They were eleven to zero one

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Speaker 2: score games. That was a miracle year. And it ended

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Speaker 2: in the postseason one game and done, obviously, with a

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Speaker 2: new quarterback in Green Bay and the Bears struggling to

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Speaker 2: just get off the mat. I think the Lions have

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Speaker 2: the kind of coach in Dan Campbell, that can raise

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Speaker 2: their expectations based on what they did a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Especially that last game where you knock the Packers out

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Speaker 2: of the playoffs. That was just a huge win for

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Speaker 2: the Lions who had been eliminated from the playoff contention

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Speaker 2: and went out there and knocked the Packers out. I

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Speaker 2: think Dan Campbell's whole attitude just fits a team on

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Speaker 2: the rise. They got to get to. Obviously, a full

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Speaker 2: year out of golf, he's gonna have to continue to emerge.

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Speaker 2: Obviously they're gonna have to play some defense this year.

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Speaker 2: I'll put it this way. Their defense can't be any worse. Offensively,

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Speaker 2: they're good. But they could win that division. They could

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Speaker 2: win they won nine games, they could win twelve games.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it'll be a one or two seed in the NFC.

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Speaker 2: And they do that, then they have a chance. Well,

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Speaker 2: I like, if I had to put my money on,

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Speaker 2: I would do with the Lions.

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Speaker 4: So the Lions are probably my second team in because

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Speaker 4: I said I have three, I like outside of the

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Speaker 4: five favorites prohibited favorites unions. The third team on that

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Speaker 4: list is the New York Jets. The New York Jets

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01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 4: have a team that can win a Super Bowl. I'll

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Speaker 4: repeat that statement, The New York Jets have a team

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01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 4: that can win a Super Bowl. Now, there's not gonna

1348
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Speaker 4: be a lot of believers in the New York Jets

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Speaker 4: right now because they're the New York Jets. But they

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Speaker 4: have Aaron Rodgers who has won a Super Bowl. They

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Speaker 4: have the missing piece of an offense that looked like

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Speaker 4: they were at very least playoff bound, if not winning

1353
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:13,520
Speaker 4: a game into the playoffs with a haphazard crew at quarterback.

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Speaker 4: If they just had one consistent performer at quarterback, this

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Speaker 4: team could have had a playoff berth. They just didn't.

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Speaker 4: Between Wilson and White and Flacco, I mean, it was

1357
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 4: like it was like watching a Three Stooges rerun. They

1358
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 4: could not get out of their way. It was like

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Speaker 4: handing the keys to a Ferrari, m Garrett, Wilson and

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Speaker 4: Bristol when healthy, and some of these other players that

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Speaker 4: are emerging out of the New York Jets offense handing

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Speaker 4: the keys to that Ferrari to a student driver. And

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Speaker 4: so none of these guys could handle it. Now. I

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01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 4: know Flacco's the old veteran, but he doesn't have much

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Speaker 4: left in the tank. But Aaron Rodgers, again, assuming health.

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Speaker 4: That's a guy who could lead you to a deep

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Speaker 4: playoff run and then couple it with a Roberts defense

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Speaker 4: that was in the top ten last year. They fortified

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Speaker 4: by re signing their big man up front. I look

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Speaker 4: at the New York Jets as a real contender now.

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Speaker 4: The reason why I picked the Jaguars over the Jets,

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Speaker 4: and the reason why I picked the Jaguars over the

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Speaker 4: Detroit Lions is because Detroit Lions, whether you think it's

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Speaker 4: fools gold or not, they have to compete with Kirk

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Speaker 4: Cousins and Kevin O'Connell, that pairing in the NFC North,

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Speaker 4: and the Jets have to still compete with the Miami

1377
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Speaker 4: Dolphins and the Buffalo Bills in division, the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 4: If you look around that AFC South, the Houston Texans

1379
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 4: are breaking in a brand new rookie starting quarterback. Same

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01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 4: thing with the Colts. And if you look at Tennessee,

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01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:49,799
Speaker 4: Man Tennessee, they are relying on Derrick Henry staying healthy

1382
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 4: and that is their only hope if he gets stinged

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01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 4: up at all. You saw what that team looks like now,

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Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins being added there. That changes the complexity of

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01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 4: that offense to get the AJ Brown factor back after

1386
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 4: trading him away inexplicably. But I digress there to just say,

1387
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 4: the Jacksonville Jaguars gave the Chiefs all they could handle

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01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 4: in the second round of the postseason. They only won

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Speaker 4: by a margin of seven points, and it was close.

1390
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 4: It was down to the wire, and I realized that

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01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 4: they hurt Patrick Mahomes in that game and he had

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01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 4: a limp off the field, and even Henny was able

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01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 4: to get in the end zone. But I think the

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01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 4: Jacksonville Jaguars are a team on the rise. And if

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Speaker 4: I can't pick out of the AFC the Chiefs, and

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Speaker 4: I can't pick the Bengals or the Bills, Jacksonville Jaguars

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Speaker 4: are my fourth team in terms of a team that

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Speaker 4: has a real chance to win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me make this clear again, and I said

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Speaker 2: this before you rejoined us here, Rich, if I had

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Speaker 2: to put my money down on, I wouldn't take any

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01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 2: team outside of those top five. Okay, I think that's

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01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 2: the problemly is smart man. One of those five, in

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01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 2: my opinion, will end up as Super Bowl champions. In

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. All right, Montzi's teased it. Jay, one

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01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 2: of the all time legends of the NBA, has a

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01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 2: top ten list of the greatest players in league history,

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01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 2: and he's getting a lot of flack. You'll find out why.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Romberger, Fox

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01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. We are live from the tay Iraq dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. So Mansi mentioned earlier that she has a

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Speaker 2: SoundBite of the legendary Doctor j given his list of

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Speaker 2: the top ten players of all time. Monster. Do you

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01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,799
Speaker 2: have yes, yes, All right, let's hear what Doctor Jay.

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Speaker 9: Talking to NBA personality Joy Diangela.

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Speaker 8: So here it is, give me your top ten all time.

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Speaker 4: Oh it is no order.

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Speaker 11: Really, I'm going to think Weston Robertson would be in

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01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 11: the back court. Elgambala would be in the front court

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Speaker 11: with Wilt and Bill Russell. The next group of guys

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Speaker 11: would be Kareem abdul Jawar, Michael Jordan's Magic Johnson probably

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Speaker 11: call Malone. I like even that tiny Archibald. Oh no,

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01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 11: he hadn't played long enough. He had to finish his career.

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01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 11: Everybody I named the Korea is finished.

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Speaker 2: All right by the way. One guy he left off

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01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 2: that list was Larry Bird.

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Speaker 4: If I have it read, it's Jerry west Our, Scar Robertson,

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01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 4: Elgin Baylor, Yes, Will Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Michael Jordan, Kareem

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Speaker 4: Abdul Jabbar, Magic Johnson, car Malone, Tiny Archibald correct. So

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Speaker 4: namely no lebron know Steph Curry. Yes, I mean those

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01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 4: are two pretty big whoopsies if you ask me.

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Speaker 2: Well, he said they hadn't finished their career. But when

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01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 2: he says that Steph Carey hasn't played long enough, I mean,

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Speaker 2: what what, He's played a long time.

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Speaker 4: He might have more gray hair than doctor j.

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Speaker 2: But the guys, the one guy he left off if

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01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 2: his prerequisite is you had to be retired, No, Larry Bird.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, Tiny Archibald is the one name that it jumps

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01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 2: out to everyone. Understand this about Nate Tiny Archibald. He

1441
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: is still the only player in NBA history to lead

1442
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 2: this league in scoring and assist in the same season. Yeah,

1443
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: only one player has ever done that.

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Speaker 4: Can I also throw in another How about Kevin Durant?

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01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I get him, I guess I know he

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01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 2: said they they were still playing. I guess.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I look, I I

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01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 4: hate these lists. I hate these lists so much. Yes,

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01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 4: you know, you know how I feel about Halls of

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01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 4: Fame and Pro Bowls and All Star lists and you know,

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01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 4: even top tens. Because the whole Mount Rushmore conversation is

1452
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 4: purely subjective. So who cares? Yeah, but it just it it.

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01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 4: It's still even if I don't care, which I don't,

1454
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 4: and even if I try to vent myself from overreacting

1455
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 4: to anybody's list, his criteria is his own, and he's

1456
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 4: an amazing basketball player, and he was able to rattle

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01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 4: off those names really quickly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It wasn't like the first time he had been

1459
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,480
Speaker 2: asked this, obviously. Yeah, because, like I said, he immediately

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01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 2: got with west Oscar, Baylor, Chamberlain Russell. And what's interesting

1461
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 2: about those guys is that he didn't play against any

1462
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 2: of those guys in the NBA. Yeah. Then the next

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01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 2: list of guys are guys that he did play against,

1464
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:38,839
Speaker 2: Jordan Kareem, Magic Malone, and Archibald. So it was interesting.

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Speaker 2: I mean, again, you're always going to be caught up

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Speaker 2: in your own era. By the way, I got one X.

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01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 2: It's not longer a tweet?

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01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 4: Is that?

1469
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 2: What do we call it X now?

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01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, so the new So this

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Speaker 4: is the new term, like the rebranding of Twitter, it

1472
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 4: is now the X app. And if you tweet someone,

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Speaker 4: I think you say you you.

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01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 2: X them, you X them like you X them out

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Speaker 2: or I mean, I guess, I don't know. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: just want to read this one from one of my

1477
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 2: favorite guys. He goes uh. Basically, this was a thank

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Speaker 2: you to rich Thank you, gosh, Richie Hartman dying without

1479
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 2: you blabbing about being made for the seventies, tight pants,

1480
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 2: flowing locks and it's pals are picking the chargers.

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01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:23,799
Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Wow, we did go a little retro there.

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01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 4: You did. You did have beautiful long hair when you

1484
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 4: were the bassist and dire need.

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01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 2: I did have. I have the single photo of me

1486
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 2: in the garage practicing with those flowing locks back in

1487
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Speaker 2: the day. Did you have something to interject here? Sam,

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01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 2: I was looking at you.

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Speaker 6: Listen. I don't think we in the public are in

1490
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 6: are under any obligation to refer to this app as

1491
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 6: X Now. We can continue to call it Twitter. Everyone

1492
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 6: will know what you're talking about. Why should we have

1493
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 6: to call it sending an X or go to X.

1494
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 6: It's stupid and we don't have to do it. Well,

1495
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 6: I you know, I understand.

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Speaker 2: We're just saying. I'll put it this way. Staple Center

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01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 2: is always Staple Center to me, Crypto dot com arena, and.

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Speaker 6: The Rosebull will always be be just the Rose Bowl.

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01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 2: Well, I I always say, but they, but the Staple

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01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 2: Center is no longer Staple Center. It's Crypto dot Com arena. Yeah,

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01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 2: and I still want to call it Staples. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what you're doing. All right, We're gonna get back

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Speaker 2: for that. So we got a lot of football. We're

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01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 2: gonna get to but we are counting down to Major

1514
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 2: League Baseball's trade deadline now. I don't know if you

1515
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:10,560
Speaker 2: had any chance to hear me in my extended conversation

1516
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 2: with our dear friend John Paul Morosi a little bit

1517
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 2: earlier in the show. Basically, what we are trying to

1518
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 2: figure out is where's the cutoff right now in terms

1519
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 2: of where teams are. Where you're saying, we still have

1520
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 2: a reasonable chance to get into the postseason, versus let's

1521
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: be realistic, like we're done, and one of the teams

1522
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 2: that you and I have been following very closely over

1523
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 2: the years is right on the cusp, and that would

1524
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 2: be the San Diego Padres, because they're five and a

1525
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 2: half out of the wild card. But it's not just

1526
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 2: how many games you're out, it's how many teams you

1527
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 2: have to jump over to get there. Now, you can

1528
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 2: make an argument, look at the Cubs. They were in

1529
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 2: a worse situation than the podrace. So now they've rattled

1530
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 2: off eight straight wins. Okay, that's good, but the Cubs

1531
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: would still have to leap over three teams to get

1532
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 2: to the wildcard slot. The Podreys, at five and a

1533
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 2: half out of the wildcard have four teams ahead of

1534
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 2: him just to get into one of those two wildcard spots.

1535
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: So you know about being hyper critical of aj Preller

1536
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 2: for years, Yes, and when he says that we're standing pat,

1537
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 2: I mean he really doesn't have a choice, right. You

1538
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 2: have an owner there that gave him a blank check

1539
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 2: to spend any money necessary to win a World Series.

1540
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 2: That was the idea. He spent money like there was

1541
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 2: no tomorrow. If he were to dump players right now,

1542
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 2: then he's essentially admitting we blew it. Or let's put

1543
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: him more clearly, I blew it right, He's not going

1544
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 2: to do that, or is he? I mean, we are

1545
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 2: now a couple of days before this trade deadline. What's

1546
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 2: the buzz Because obviously the two names that are being

1547
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 2: thrown out there are Josh Hader and Blake Snell because

1548
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 2: they have expiring contracts. I'm even hearing some wild rumors

1549
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: about Juan Soto still has another year left on his deal.

1550
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense. But Snell's having his best season

1551
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 2: as a padre and the Hater's still obviously one of

1552
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 2: the best closers in the game. But is there an

1553
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 2: anticipation that you know on your San Diego show, You

1554
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 2: guys are because you and I have been there, you know,

1555
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 2: or we got you know, trade deadline and boom, something

1556
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 2: happens or something doesn't happen. What's the anticipation now, Rich, Well.

1557
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 4: The anticipation is expect the unexpected with aj Preller and

1558
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 4: this Padres franchise. So what would be more expected? Right

1559
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 4: in a situation where the Padres seem to have gotten

1560
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 4: off to one of the clunkiest starts for a team

1561
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 4: that has essentially been assembled to reflect Baseball's version of

1562
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 4: an NBA super team. You know, you bring in Machado,

1563
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 4: You sign Fernando Tatist junior long term after getting him

1564
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 4: traded to your minor leagues. He shows his worth in

1565
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 4: your minor league system, makes it to the big league roster,

1566
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 4: and within no time is signing a statue contract like

1567
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 4: basically a lifelong deal to be a Padre. You bring

1568
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 4: in Xander Boulguards. You missed on Hosmer. That was a

1569
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 4: big contract though, there's no question about it. You resign Musgrove,

1570
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,839
Speaker 4: you resigned Darvis, You re signed Croninworth. You put together

1571
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 4: a group of all stars with Snell and Hater like

1572
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:47,679
Speaker 4: you just mentioned like, you have this team that, by

1573
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 4: all measure should be performing at the top of the league,

1574
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 4: not just the National League, but the top of Major

1575
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 4: League Baseball, and they're not. But again, going back to

1576
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 4: what I said before, was it expected that the Sa

1577
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 4: Diego Padres, considering the market size of San Diego, wouldever

1578
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 4: go all in the way they have spending this kind

1579
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 4: of money on these kind of contracts answers. No, you know,

1580
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 4: at every turn when it felt like they were still

1581
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 4: building something, but they weren't underperforming per some of these

1582
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 4: seasons that they'd be sellers, they weren't. They continued to add.

1583
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,759
Speaker 4: They missed out on the Scherzer trade. There's no doubt

1584
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 4: that that was a miss. It felt like it was

1585
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 4: the Padres pitcher to lose a couple off seasons ago.

1586
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 4: But outside of that, I mean, there have been a

1587
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:39,600
Speaker 4: lot of moments where I said, well, this team for

1588
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 4: sure is going to, you know, start tearing this down

1589
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 4: because it's not going the direction fast enough that they

1590
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 4: wanted to. But then all of a sudden last season

1591
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 4: they had the NLCS birth. I think the Padres are

1592
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 4: going to add to their roster at the deadline. I

1593
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 4: think again, they're going to surprise major League Baseball, and

1594
01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 4: I think again, you're going to see coupling with this owner,

1595
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 4: Peter Seidler and this general manager A. J. Preller, create

1596
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 4: some waves in Major League Baseball and maybe instill some

1597
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 4: more confidence into a clubhouse that looked like they were

1598
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 4: lacking confidence the entire season.

1599
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 2: Well, if you're looking beyond baseball and just looking from

1600
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 2: the business standpoint of things, what they have done is

1601
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 2: worked in leaps and bounds. They've only had five non

1602
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 2: sellouts this year at Peca, sure the whole season. You

1603
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 2: and I remember the days when Peco was a ghost town. Yeah,

1604
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 2: you could literally we would go. We would go early

1605
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:38,839
Speaker 2: to games, Like on a Tuesday night, you could literally

1606
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 2: count the people. There was nobody there. Every game's a sellout.

1607
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 2: Now they might be booing them off the field, but

1608
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: they're still selling out that ballpark. People are discovering that

1609
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 2: that's an incredible place to see a baseball game and

1610
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 2: everything else. Winning and losing a little different in San

1611
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 2: Diego than many other sports cities out there. Look, I

1612
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 2: agree with you. I think that we could see some surprises.

1613
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 2: It is Preller, He's trying to constantly prove how smart

1614
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 2: he is. Unfortunately, his record as a general manager is

1615
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 2: the reverse. He's had a lot more losing seasons than

1616
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 2: winning seasons. By the way, I know that you want

1617
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 2: to acknowledge the fact that Arti Moreno listens to this show,

1618
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 2: because last Sunday, did I not say that if I

1619
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 2: were Aardi Moreno, I would make a public statement saying,

1620
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 2: under no circumstance are we trading? Show?

1621
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 4: Heyo Tani?

1622
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 2: Did I not say that?

1623
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 4: You said it?

1624
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 2: And exactly two days later, two days later, So I

1625
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 2: want to update you on this what John Palm Morosi

1626
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 2: had to say. So show hey Otani will remain an

1627
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 2: angel for the balance of the year. By the way,

1628
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 2: the next day, after Morino made this announcement that no,

1629
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:55,759
Speaker 2: there are no deals period exclamation point for Atani, Otani

1630
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 2: has the doubleheader of the Ages, a complete game, one

1631
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 2: hit shutout in Game one, and then two home runs

1632
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 2: in Game two. Again, we're just Otani's so far off

1633
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 2: the charts in terms of comparing him to anyone else

1634
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 2: in baseball it's not even worth mentioning. So I talked

1635
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 2: to Morosi and he insists, when it's all said and done, show,

1636
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 2: hey Otani will be a Los Angeles Dodger in twenty

1637
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 2: twenty four. The reason being is the money. You know, once,

1638
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,879
Speaker 2: once you've gotten past I don't know, a half billion

1639
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 2: dollar deal, which is probably the minimum right now for him.

1640
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 2: You know, let's say ten years, fifty million a year, right,

1641
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 2: you know, five hundred million could go even higher than that.

1642
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 2: I mean, once you've gotten to that level, what's a

1643
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 2: few extra hundred million. He wants to go to a

1644
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 2: team that can win a World Series. I agree with him.

1645
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 2: I mean, he's just had the thrill of the World

1646
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 2: Baseball Classic, you know, and that final strikeout of his

1647
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 2: teammate Mike Trout to win it. You can tell that

1648
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: winning is imperative to him. Money's always important, but I

1649
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 2: don't think it's the breaking factor. So he believes, when

1650
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 2: it's all said and done, based on the fact of

1651
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 2: the Dodgers' track record of being a perennial contender and

1652
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:16,719
Speaker 2: just the makeup of their roster, that that's where Otani

1653
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 2: ultimately will end up.

1654
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Look, I've been saying this for a long time,

1655
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 4: and you know this. I had a hunch that a

1656
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 4: Shohei Otani wanted to join a team that had a

1657
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 4: real chance in the very near future to win a championship.

1658
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 4: Is that the Angels? No, Is it more like the Dodgers. Yeah,

1659
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 4: it definitely does feel like that with the tradition of

1660
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 4: being in the postseason every year, and like we've always

1661
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 4: heard in Major League Baseball, the postseason's a crapshoots. So

1662
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 4: just get there, Like, just get into the postseason and

1663
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 4: then take your spin on the roulette wheel. We'll see

1664
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 4: what happens when you get there. So you got to

1665
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 4: get there the Dodgers' routine. We get to the postseason. Now,

1666
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 4: will the Angels ever trade a player, especially of this

1667
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 4: caliber to the Los Angeles Dodgers? Then answer is absolutely not.

1668
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 4: It's laughable to even consider that. The other question is

1669
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 4: do they really want him to be traded at all? Well,

1670
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 4: I've been saying this from the jump. He's an untradeable commodity.

1671
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 4: It almost has less to do with the Angels not

1672
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 4: wanting to trade him, more so that no offer is

1673
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 4: going to be commeasured with his talents. You're not going

1674
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 4: to be able to get enough of a trade haul

1675
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 4: to be able to go to your fan base or

1676
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 4: even your owner and say, hey, look, this is the

1677
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 4: best we could get for Sho hee Otani, and I

1678
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 4: think we should do it, because even if you're gonna

1679
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 4: get an absolute, I mean a king's ransom, it is

1680
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 4: still going to hal in comparison to what he's actually worth.

1681
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 4: And then on the other side of it, if he

1682
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 4: plays half a season with some other team and he

1683
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 4: still ends up in LA with the Dodgers a half

1684
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 4: a season later, everybody's going to be like, how on

1685
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 4: earth did you trade show heyo Tani? How did you

1686
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 4: not make it work for us? You will be the

1687
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 4: front office who did maybe what is on paper the

1688
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 4: right thing to do, but from a public relations standpoint,

1689
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:33,759
Speaker 4: it would be an absolute fiasco. There is no general

1690
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:38,759
Speaker 4: manager or front office personnel director in baseball who wants

1691
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 4: to be the person, the man woman who traded show

1692
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 4: Heyo Tani because that is going to be the sum

1693
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:53,640
Speaker 4: of your entire career. That is going to be the

1694
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 4: bullet the top line of your resume forever and ever,

1695
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 4: and it's not gonna look good for you. So he's untradeable.

1696
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 4: Of course, the Angels aren't going to trade him. Of course,

1697
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,799
Speaker 4: they brought in Gildo, They traded for an all star pitcher.

1698
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 4: Of course they did because they have to make a

1699
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 4: run right now because there's no trading show Hey, o Tani,

1700
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,639
Speaker 4: and if he wants to be a Dodger and free agency,

1701
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 4: at least your fan base can swallow hard and be like, well,

1702
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 4: we gave it our best shot while he was here

1703
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 4: and it wasn't enough. Or heck. I mean, who knows.

1704
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 4: Maybe the Angels catch fire. I mean, last I checked,

1705
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 4: there were four games above five hundred. Maybe they go

1706
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 4: on a row and maybe they win a World Series

1707
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 4: with show Hey. Either way, as a fan base, you

1708
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 4: can't attack the front office for trying to make him

1709
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 4: an offer he didn't want to refuse, and he just

1710
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:48,600
Speaker 4: didn't want to stay in an Angel's uniform because he

1711
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 4: wanted to win a World championship in La.

1712
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,600
Speaker 2: Well, the Angels have a history. You're talking about the

1713
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,760
Speaker 2: trade deadline coming up. Of being a team that comes

1714
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 2: out of left field. They were out of left field again,

1715
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 2: show Halle. Nobody thought they were the pottery. Seem to

1716
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 2: have the inside track on Otani ends up with the Angels.

1717
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 2: I remember the Poohols deal. No one saw that coming,

1718
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 2: Josh Hamilton deal, nobody saw that coming. So the Angels

1719
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 2: do have a history of coming up with something at

1720
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 2: the last second. Now they've committed to O'tani for the

1721
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 2: balance of the year, they're on the clock. They've got

1722
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 2: to prove to this guy about if winning is the

1723
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 2: most important thing for you, this is the place to stay.

1724
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 2: So if there's going to be a team that could

1725
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 2: surprise at the trade deadline, look out for those Angels.

1726
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 4: All right.

1727
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 2: On the other side, I'm trying to catch up on

1728
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 2: a few things I missed out with Rich earlier in

1729
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 2: the show, including some very controversial comments from Sean Payton

1730
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:50,959
Speaker 2: and the motivation that he had to, in my opinion,

1731
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Speaker 2: light a fire under his Broncos football team. We'll discuss.

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Speaker 2: all right, So rich Sean Payton made news this week

1750
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 2: obviously when he well, basically he told the truth about

1751
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackett. I mean we talked about it throughout the

1752
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 2: season that the hiring a Hacket is the head coach

1753
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 2: of the Broncos was a disaster. We heard it from players,

1754
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 2: We saw the ill effects that may or may have

1755
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:15,600
Speaker 2: not had on Russell Wilson. Whatever the reason, Hackett was

1756
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 2: a bad hire to be the heague coach of the Broncos.

1757
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 2: But the thing Sean Payton did is that he said

1758
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 2: it publicly.

1759
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 4: Right now.

1760
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 2: He retracted by saying I was still wearing my Fox

1761
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 2: Sports Radio commentator hat, or maybe I had a couple

1762
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 2: of extra lattes. I don't believe that for a second.

1763
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 2: My opinion on this is is that Sean Payton is

1764
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 2: a very smart guy and he walks into that Broncos

1765
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 2: locker room, a team that was five and twelve a

1766
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 2: year ago, and he feels that by the way, by

1767
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 2: making this public, he's basically put a huge target on

1768
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 2: the Broncos. And by the way, they're playing the Jets

1769
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 2: team that hackets. Now you know the coordinator in week four,

1770
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 2: So you say you don't do something like this me

1771
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 2: he read the locker room and he's looking for shock value,

1772
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 2: some to really jolt a team that was as bad

1773
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 2: or far worse than their talent should have been a

1774
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 2: year ago, to try to get him back on track. Now,

1775
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 2: whether it works or not, I don't know, but at

1776
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 2: least from where I sit just sort of reading the room,

1777
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 2: Sean Payton knew fully well what he was doing and

1778
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 2: the residual effects that would have, and at least in

1779
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 2: his mind, he's good with that for this team.

1780
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 4: You know, I'll give him the benefit of a doubt

1781
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:41,640
Speaker 4: because I've explained this before. When I first got into broadcasting,

1782
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 4: I had to take my football hat off and put

1783
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 4: on my broadcasting hat. And what I mean by that

1784
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:50,839
Speaker 4: is they are two very different jobs on the polar

1785
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 4: opposite sides of the spectrum. When you're a broadcaster, you're

1786
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 4: paid to be critical. When you're a sports broadcaster, you're

1787
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 4: a matters. When you're a head football coach or you're

1788
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:06,600
Speaker 4: a player on a team, you represent the team, You

1789
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 4: represent your teammates or your players. If you're a coach,

1790
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 4: and you represent the organization and the league that you

1791
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 4: represent or that that team plays within. Like so there's

1792
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 4: a lot of different places that you report to, and

1793
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 4: as a result of whatever it is that you say,

1794
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 4: you could get in a lot of trouble, or you

1795
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,679
Speaker 4: could get your teammates into a bind where they're answering

1796
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,679
Speaker 4: questions about an answer to a question that you just gave,

1797
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 4: and you can start a controversy, and you can start

1798
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:37,680
Speaker 4: internal problems inside of a franchise. You could set a

1799
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 4: lot of things on fire with just one sentence in

1800
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 4: front of the media as a player or as a coach.

1801
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 4: And so you got to be really, really careful what

1802
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 4: you say. It takes a lot of time to get

1803
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 4: that training out of your head, Like it took me

1804
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 4: a while to really discover my true opinion on things

1805
01:37:57,200 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 4: and not this guarded take that I I sort of

1806
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 4: fed to the media, fed to people who asked me

1807
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 4: questions about the teams I played for, the coaches I

1808
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 4: played for, the teammates I had, or even people who

1809
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 4: I didn't know. Because I was no longer protecting the brand.

1810
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 4: I was no longer protecting the shield. I was no

1811
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 4: longer protecting these organizations. What I was being paid for

1812
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 4: is to give my opinion. It's really difficult to relearn

1813
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 4: that to teach the old dog new tricks, so to speak. Well,

1814
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 4: Sean Payton, he became a commentator, and I gotta tell you,

1815
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 4: I thought that he did a nice job being critical.

1816
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 4: I thought that he levied fair criticism while he was

1817
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 4: an analyst with Fox, and I thought that he transitioned

1818
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 4: into that role pretty well. I think this may have

1819
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 4: been a lapse of judgment with somebody who he had

1820
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 4: become close with over time, and maybe who he had

1821
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 4: candid off the record conversations with, maybe this offseason and

1822
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 4: several other offseasons leading into other seasons when he was

1823
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 4: coaching in the league or as analyst last year, and

1824
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 4: he just let things slip that he absolutely shouldn't have now.

1825
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:07,719
Speaker 4: Could it have been calculated? Could it have been something

1826
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 4: that he wanted to put out there in the press

1827
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 4: to make sure that if things go really wrong in Denver,

1828
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 4: he is able to say, well, everybody knows based on

1829
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:20,559
Speaker 4: the truth that I told the two Latte Day that

1830
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 4: there were big problems here. There's a lot to be

1831
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 4: undone that Nathaniel Hackett did to my poor quarterback, Russell Wilson.

1832
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 4: So I'm going to need a whole nother year to

1833
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 4: get this under control here in Denver. Yeah, it's possible.

1834
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 4: It's possible that he had a plan, but I'm willing

1835
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:37,800
Speaker 4: to give him the benefit of the down and say

1836
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 4: he slipped up. And I don't think it actually benefits

1837
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:43,640
Speaker 4: him all that much outside of what I just described.

1838
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 4: I think it probably it probably can work against him

1839
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 4: if one of his players give you another team a

1840
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 4: rival some bullet tin board material. So I don't know

1841
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 4: if it was necessarily a plan, and if it was,

1842
01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 4: if it was a plan, I don't think it was

1843
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:00,719
Speaker 4: a good plan at all.

1844
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:07,839
Speaker 2: The Russell Wilson situation is complicated for Peyton. Sean Payton's

1845
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 2: an offensive coach and he was blessed in Drew Brees

1846
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 2: with the most accurate passer in the history of the

1847
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 2: National Football League. In order for the Peyton offense to work,

1848
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 2: you have to have an accurate passing quarterback. That's what

1849
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 2: it's all predicated on.

1850
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 4: And so.

1851
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:34,519
Speaker 2: I think again, the idea of even commenting on the

1852
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 2: Hackett situation really was based on a perceived defense of

1853
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 2: Russell wilson season. In other words, the reason Russell Wilson

1854
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 2: was so bad had nothing to do with Russell Wilson.

1855
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 2: It had everything to do with Hackett, the coaching staff,

1856
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 2: and was a fiasco. So he's trying to deflect any

1857
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 2: criticism of Russell Wilson, maybe to get his mindset. But

1858
01:40:55,960 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 2: I'm also hearing from multiple sources that Russell Wilson's on

1859
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 2: a short leash, like if he can't execute Sean Payton's offense,

1860
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 2: meaning if he can't actually throw the ball to the

1861
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 2: right receiver. Sean Payton signed a huge deal in Denver.

1862
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 2: I mean, they made a monster commitment financially to him. Again,

1863
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 2: that's why this is such an intriguing marriage pending between

1864
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 2: Wilson and Peyton, because if Wilson bears any resemblance to

1865
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 2: the quarterback we saw a year ago. Sean Payton is

1866
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:40,640
Speaker 2: gonna say, I'm not Nathaniel Hackett. I ain't going anywhere.

1867
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 2: I got a five year deal here. I got to

1868
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 2: find a quarterback that can actually run my offense. So

1869
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 2: this is gonna be very very interesting. What's also interesting

1870
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 2: to me is we have yet to see any public

1871
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 2: statement from Russell Wilson since Sean Payton made these comments

1872
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 2: about Hackett. Have you seen any public statement from Russell Nothing?

1873
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 4: But but also let's be very very clear, how would

1874
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 4: that benefit Russell Wilson, How would that benefit the Denver Broncos.

1875
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:13,839
Speaker 4: How would that benefit Sean Payton? If Russell Wilson added

1876
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 4: anything to this. If I'm Russell Wilson, I'm not defending

1877
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 4: Nathaniel Hackett here. I'm not defending Sean Payton here or

1878
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 4: his comments, because if you do either, there's going to

1879
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 4: be criticism showing up at your front door. So what

1880
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 4: I would do if I were Russell Wilson and if

1881
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 4: I were Sean Payton, I would be encouraging every single

1882
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 4: one of my players to do this. You know, look,

1883
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:42,679
Speaker 4: Coach Peyton said what he said, those are his own words.

1884
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,600
Speaker 4: If you want to follow up on that commentary, you

1885
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 4: need to talk to coach Peyton, And I mean, from

1886
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 4: top to bottom, that entire roster should be saying the

1887
01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:55,639
Speaker 4: same thing, because why should Russell Wilson have to answer

1888
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 4: for anything that Sean Payton says. Now, don't get me wrong,

1889
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:02,600
Speaker 4: I think some of what he said was flattering to

1890
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson. I think some of what he said was

1891
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 4: in defense of Russell Wilson, saying, Russell Wilson's actually a

1892
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:12,720
Speaker 4: really good quarterback who was given really bad advice and

1893
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 4: coaching from a very bad head coach. That's what Sean Payton.

1894
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 4: That's the picture that Sean Payton was illustrating. Now, if

1895
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 4: he can actually fix this problem, he's also going to

1896
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 4: be taking a victory lap and a lot of credit

1897
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 4: for Russell Wilson's success in Denver. So there is that

1898
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:31,600
Speaker 4: side to the story. But I actually think that it

1899
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 4: would benefit Russell Wilson not at all to speak out

1900
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 4: on this, and I think it would benefit everybody if

1901
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 4: they try to get this story to go away as

1902
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 4: quickly as possible. By the way, the quarterback who did

1903
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 4: actually lash out and speak out was Aaron Rodgers. Yeah,

1904
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 4: because he's talking about his offensive coordinator.

1905
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 2: I mean that was predictable when we heard the sound

1906
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 2: a little bit earlier from him and yeah, I mean,

1907
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:55,600
Speaker 2: and he reminded him, Hey, we're going to face the

1908
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 2: steam in week four. Look, the pressure is the Peyton

1909
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 2: put it right back on the shoulders of Russell Wilson.

1910
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to make a public stated you are as

1911
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 2: great as you think you are.

1912
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 4: Yep.

1913
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 2: It had nothing to do with you, zero to do

1914
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 2: with you. Now that we've gotten that past us, now

1915
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 2: you got to prove it to me. And if you

1916
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 2: can't prove it to me, well we may be looking

1917
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Speaker 2: Progressive dot com. Let's find out what is trending right now?

1922
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 2: And Monsey is back. So on my x account. Yes,

1923
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 2: by the way, on your phone, if you have or

1924
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 2: had the Twitter app, yes, I have it, does it

1925
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 2: still show Twitter or does it say X?

1926
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:50,639
Speaker 8: Mine still shows Twitter? The little bird?

1927
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 2: So everybody that I know it now has X.

1928
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 8: It is flipped.

1929
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 2: Maybe still has the bird. Yeah, Mike also still has

1930
01:44:58,240 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 2: the bird.

1931
01:44:58,680 --> 01:44:59,639
Speaker 6: We talked about that, Steve.

1932
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 2: Oh, my my ex Denise, my daughter both had their

1933
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 2: app and it big X. It's on their app.

1934
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it just switched. Really yeah mine, Oh yeah,

1935
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 4: it just switches.

1936
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 8: It's weird.

1937
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 4: Closed the app and I went back to it and

1938
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 4: it's now X's great.

1939
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 8: It scares me. My, I don't like that.

1940
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 2: Oh here's the thing, so big problems. So my now

1941
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:28,879
Speaker 2: X account, which is pretty quiet unless I'm working weekends

1942
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 2: in Mancy, and then all of a sudden, it's like

1943
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 2: all hell breaks.

1944
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 8: I mean, it's really directed at you, guys. I'm just

1945
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 8: included in it, you know.

1946
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 9: But somebody did mention that you probably want some Jordan four's,

1947
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 9: And then I thought to myself, I wonder if Hartman

1948
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:46,719
Speaker 9: has ever owned a pair of Jordan's.

1949
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 2: Oh wow, the answer is no.

1950
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 8: But I mean you could rock fours.

1951
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:56,719
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, but Sonny Vacuero is a very close

1952
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 2: friend of mine that I can attest.

1953
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,679
Speaker 8: What about you, Rich? How many how many pair Jordan's?

1954
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 4: I'll let you guess, how many pairs of Jordans have

1955
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 4: I ever owned months?

1956
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 9: Oh my goodness, it's either going to be like zero one.

1957
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:10,480
Speaker 8: Thirteen.

1958
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:16,320
Speaker 4: The correct answer is two pairs two two pairs of Jordan's.

1959
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:18,679
Speaker 8: Which which are the two pairs?

1960
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 9: Oh?

1961
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 4: I mean both of them? Just the ones?

1962
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, of course, the.

1963
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 4: Classic all whites. And then I actually had a pair

1964
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:27,360
Speaker 4: of the unc tar heel blues.

1965
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1966
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:30,280
Speaker 4: I could not pull them off. I looked like such

1967
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 4: an idiot. I remember one time I wore them with

1968
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 4: these tight jeans. I was trying to be so slick

1969
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 4: and somebody clowned me so hard, and I was just like, yeah,

1970
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 4: you're right, I should take these off. I think I

1971
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 4: gave them to somebody.

1972
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 9: Oh man, they probably just told you that hoping you

1973
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 9: would give it to them.

1974
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Oh I never thought insult someone and hope

1975
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 6: that they give you a gift.

1976
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, gentleman, that gentleman war sized thirteen men.

1977
01:46:56,680 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 8: See yeah, d wow, believable. Yeah, that's what they're That's

1978
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:02,200
Speaker 8: what they were trying to do.

1979
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 9: I've got Cody Bellinger right now on my screen batting

1980
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 9: for the Cubs who are trying to win nine in

1981
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 9: a row, but the Cardinals are beating them three zero.

1982
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 9: Top of the sixth inning, and Cody Bellinger has been

1983
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 9: taken off the trade market. Obviously, the Cubs are only

1984
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 9: three and a half games behind the first place Burs

1985
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 9: and just three games out of the final wild card

1986
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 9: spot in the NL.

1987
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 8: And no, he didn't do.

1988
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 9: No is on all he got on base, But again,

1989
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 9: Cardinals are are up three zero. The Rays have extended

1990
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 9: their lead over the Astros. It's six to zero bottom

1991
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 9: of the fifth inning, and the Guardians are blanking the

1992
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 9: White Sox three zero.

1993
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 8: Bottom of the sixth inning.

1994
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 9: With the Tigers and the Marlins are now no longer tied.

1995
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 9: This has been a fun game. The Marlins have retaken

1996
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 9: the lead. It's five to four bottom of the six inning.

1997
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 8: Just like the Bruers and.

1998
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:47,760
Speaker 9: The Braves, this game has also been super fun back

1999
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 9: and forth.

2000
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:49,599
Speaker 8: The Braves just tied.

2001
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:52,639
Speaker 9: The game thanks to Marcel Azuna hitting a solo shot,

2002
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 9: so they are tied at home against the Birers at

2003
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 9: six apiece, and then they're about to start the bottom

2004
01:47:57,479 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 9: of the seventh inning.

2005
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 8: Let's do a little Women's World Cup, shall we.

2006
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:03,599
Speaker 9: All of these games happened while we were probably sleeping

2007
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 9: overnight early Sunday morning.

2008
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 8: Norway dominated the Philippines six to nil.

2009
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:11,440
Speaker 9: They have officially made it to the knockout round Columbia

2010
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 9: with the two to one thrilling victory over Germany and Switzerland.

2011
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 9: They had a scoreless straw against New Zealand, so Switzerland

2012
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:21,599
Speaker 9: has advanced to the knockout round. Co host New Zealand

2013
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:25,760
Speaker 9: has officially been eliminated from the Women's World Cup and

2014
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 9: in the NFL the Vikings and pass rusher Daniel Hunter, who.

2015
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 8: By the way, that name is Danielle. Danielle is the

2016
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:37,599
Speaker 8: way that name looks daniel That's Danielle.

2017
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 4: Wait wait, wait, wait a second. This is coming from

2018
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:40,880
Speaker 4: somebody named.

2019
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:44,679
Speaker 8: Months, surrat That's right, that's right.

2020
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 2: When I look at your name, I'm like, is it Mons?

2021
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:52,599
Speaker 2: The first time that I'm looking at or rundown On,

2022
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:54,720
Speaker 2: you know, who's you know? And the first time I

2023
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 2: saw your name's Moncey. I'm with rich here boy like,

2024
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:01,240
Speaker 2: all right, I don't I don't even know it's a

2025
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 2: male of FEMA. It's a Mons. I mean, Months could

2026
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:06,680
Speaker 2: go a lot of different directions, right, I love it.

2027
01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 4: I love the one person with a like you're working

2028
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 4: with a Sam with a Steve with a Ridge, and

2029
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 4: you're you're Monsy Bolanos and you're like, but Daniil cannot

2030
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 4: go by Daniel.

2031
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:23,800
Speaker 8: It's the first time I saw that name. I was like, Danielle, Danielle,

2032
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 8: and man, it was Ryan Werschinger who was like, it's

2033
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 8: Daniel and I was like, no, it's not. Let me

2034
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:30,559
Speaker 8: tell you what. It's not Daniel, but it is Daniel

2035
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:31,599
Speaker 8: Hunter getting paid.

2036
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 9: Agreed to TURST on a one year deal with the

2037
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:36,959
Speaker 9: Vikings that can be worth up to twenty million. Seventeen

2038
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:40,080
Speaker 9: million guaranteed. That's not a bad year. No, I'm in

2039
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:41,519
Speaker 9: the wrong business. Back to you guys.

2040
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,599
Speaker 2: By the way, one of my favorite uh when Jay

2041
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 2: Moore was here at Fox Sports Radio. Jay was on

2042
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 2: the show preceding Mine and and I love Jay and

2043
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 2: so he had too in as a studio guest. So

2044
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 2: t O's standing right next to me and now he's

2045
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:02,960
Speaker 2: walking in do this interview in studio with Jay. So

2046
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 2: Jay stands up. Terrell, what's going on? Too, goes, it's Terrell.

2047
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 2: Get your popcorn ready, it's Terrell Terrell. JA was like, no,

2048
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 2: it's Terrell. I mean, look at your name. It says

2049
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:32,639
Speaker 2: Terrell Terrell. Yeah, it's Terrell. Not so everyone has their

2050
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 2: own little twist and turn. I remained Steve, Yes, yes, no,

2051
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:43,280
Speaker 2: one simple, yeah, unless you were like Stephen Curry, Stephen Curry.

2052
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 2: If you see the new Stephan Curry documentary, which I did,

2053
01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 2: it was outstanding. There's somebody who actually introduces him as

2054
01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:54,760
Speaker 2: Stephen Curry and it's spelled s T E p H

2055
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:56,760
Speaker 2: E N. There's you know, there's the B or the

2056
01:50:56,760 --> 01:51:00,879
Speaker 2: p H and you could hear them yelling like his family,

2057
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:04,679
Speaker 2: it's Stephan how Stephen Curry.

2058
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:07,559
Speaker 9: I just saw this on social media a couple days ago,

2059
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:09,559
Speaker 9: and I laughed so hard. Somebody was talking to Taylor

2060
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:11,600
Speaker 9: Swift on a red carpet and she looks like the

2061
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 9: Taylor Swift now, not like when she was new. And

2062
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 9: the woman's like and there's Taylor Smith. And Taylor Swift's

2063
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:21,759
Speaker 9: face is so good. She just like kind of chuckles

2064
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:25,080
Speaker 9: and walks away like that. I loved her reaction. But

2065
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:27,559
Speaker 9: Taylor Smith, Taylor Smith.

2066
01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:33,439
Speaker 2: Yes, Now, imagine Rich's last name. How many oh?

2067
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 4: I mean, come on every single time?

2068
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 2: How often you see the letters oh h are in?

2069
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 8: Not ever?

2070
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 4: Now?

2071
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 2: And what what sequence do you ever see the letters

2072
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:46,640
Speaker 2: oh h are in?

2073
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 4: There's only one word, and it's Berger Hoornberger, and it's

2074
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 4: it's a proper noun H and it stands for Hornberger.

2075
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 4: Here's the biggest problem is when when somebody is obviously

2076
01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 4: calling off of a like a telemarketer, dials the number

2077
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:03,559
Speaker 4: and they give me a buzz, they're like, am I

2078
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 4: speaking to mister? And there's always this pause where you

2079
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:10,680
Speaker 4: could tell they're just hard swallowing and they're like, oh no,

2080
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 4: and they're just like Hornberger, Yeah.

2081
01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 2: No hr And see that letter sequence anywhere other than

2082
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 2: rich Ornberger. All right, Monzie, thank you very much. Coming

2083
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:25,559
Speaker 2: up on the other side, we were just talking about

2084
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:29,680
Speaker 2: this whole dynamic. Aaron Rodgers, keep my coach's name out

2085
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 2: of you know, your mouth, blah blah blah. The criticism

2086
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:37,040
Speaker 2: that Sean Payton had of Nathaniel Hackett. Well, now knowing

2087
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:39,639
Speaker 2: that the Jets and Broncos will face each other, there's

2088
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 2: even more reason why maybe Sean Payton should have made

2089
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:47,200
Speaker 2: those cracks about Hacket. We'll tell you why. This is

2090
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:53,639
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin, Rich Harberger, Fox Sports Sunday.

2091
01:52:54,400 --> 01:53:01,840
Speaker 2: Fans of Banana Rama back in the day, Oh yeah, hey, Rich,

2092
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 2: This Aaron Rodgers retort to Sean Payton about keep my

2093
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 2: coach's name out of your mouth. Let's hear what Aaron

2094
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:18,600
Speaker 2: Rodgers actually had to say about Sean Payton's prerogatory comments

2095
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 2: about his beloved mister Hackett.

2096
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:22,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2097
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:26,440
Speaker 3: I love Nathaniel Hackett and those comments were very surprising

2098
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:29,400
Speaker 3: for a coach to do that to another coach.

2099
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 2: My love for hat goes deep.

2100
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:35,040
Speaker 3: You know, we had some great years together in Green Bay,

2101
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 3: kept in touch, love him and his family. He's an

2102
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 3: incredible family man, incredible dad, and on the field, you know,

2103
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:43,599
Speaker 3: he's arguably my favorite coach I've ever had in the NFL.

2104
01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 3: Just his approach to it, how he makes it fun,

2105
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 3: how he cares about the guys, just how he goes

2106
01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 3: about his business with respect, with leadership, with honesty, with integrity.

2107
01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 3: And it made me feel bad that someone who's accomplished

2108
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 3: a lot in the league is that insecure sure that

2109
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 3: they have to take another man down to set themselves

2110
01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:06,439
Speaker 3: up for some sort of easy fall if it doesn't go.

2111
01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 4: Well for that team this year.

2112
01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:09,400
Speaker 3: I thought it was way out of line, inappropriate, and

2113
01:54:09,439 --> 01:54:12,120
Speaker 3: I think he needs to keep my coach's names out

2114
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 3: of his mouth.

2115
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 2: All right. Well, the bottom line was Hacket was a

2116
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 2: disaster in Denver and there's no arguing that. But I

2117
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 2: understand he's coming to the defense of his coach. Somebody

2118
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 2: likes he might even have more confidence, says the Jets

2119
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 2: will be playing in the Broncos. I believe week four

2120
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:30,880
Speaker 2: of the season if they add Dalvin Week five is

2121
01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 2: week five if they add Dalvin Cook to the roster.

2122
01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 2: Who was, by the way, hanging out today at Jets practice,

2123
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 2: Rich sort of get a view of things, and with

2124
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers redoing his deal and leaving some thirty five

2125
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 2: million dollars on the table to free up some cap space,

2126
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:53,600
Speaker 2: it seems like a Dalvin Cook arrival in a Jets

2127
01:54:53,760 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 2: uniform seems at this point likely. How's that sound to you?

2128
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 2: That was a practice today, Rich.

2129
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:12,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I mean two things, actually, a lot of

2130
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 4: things in reaction to the sound clip we heard and

2131
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 4: the commentary about you know, Rogers taking a pay cut.

2132
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 4: When you're in a relationship with somebody that you see

2133
01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 4: a future with, you start making sacrifices, right Like when

2134
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:34,320
Speaker 4: you meet somebody at first, maybe you're not one hundred

2135
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:37,000
Speaker 4: percent sure if it's going to be, you know, a

2136
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:41,680
Speaker 4: future spouse. Maybe you're thinking it's just a casual thing,

2137
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, feelings start deepening and

2138
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Speaker 4: you start sacrificing some time. I don't know. Maybe you're

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01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 4: a video gamer and you're hanging up the sticks to

2140
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:55,800
Speaker 4: go take her out apple picking, or you know, you're

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Speaker 4: you're spending less time with your friends because you're spending

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01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 4: more time with her or him, you know whatever. Like

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01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 4: you start making sacrifices for people or commitments that you

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01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 4: see feeling long term to you. That's what Aaron Rodgers

2145
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 4: is doing here. He wanted to dip his toes into

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01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 4: the water in New York before committing fully, and I

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01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 4: completely agree with that because he doesn't have so many

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Speaker 4: tomorrows left in the NFL. So he went in there,

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01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 4: spent the offseason, i'm sure, getting to know the coach,

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01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 4: the head coach sala and obviously knows Nathaniel Hacket extremely well,

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Speaker 4: and seeing how much rain he's going to have over

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01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 4: the offense, how much control Aaron is going to have

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01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 4: over the offense as well, and see what sort of

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01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:44,880
Speaker 4: pieces they have in place around the offense, and then

2155
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 4: expand that, you know, that spectrum or that evaluation to

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01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:50,960
Speaker 4: the defensive side and say, hey, you know, we got

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01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 4: a pretty darn good defense here in it looks like

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01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:55,760
Speaker 4: they're committed to keeping this defense pretty good for a

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Speaker 4: while here. And it also looks like they're pretty committed

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Speaker 4: to surrounding me with players that I want to be

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01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 4: surrounded by. Because remember, even before he was traded to

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01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 4: the New York Jets, they already started what looked like

2163
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 4: a list of free agents that Aaron Rodgers would really

2164
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:15,720
Speaker 4: like to play with. So I think what we're seeing

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01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:18,600
Speaker 4: in Aaron Rodgers is that commitment to long term, whatever

2166
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 4: long term means at this point in an older quarterbacks career.

2167
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:26,600
Speaker 4: Now getting back to the point about Nathaniel Hackett, you

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01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 4: got to stick up for your guys, like one hundred

2169
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:30,480
Speaker 4: percent of the time. You got to stick up for

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Speaker 4: your guys. So he did the right thing there. I

2171
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:36,560
Speaker 4: think that he handled it actually fairly diplomatically. I think

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01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 4: he could have actually gone low. Instead he took the

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01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:44,520
Speaker 4: high road. And we've seen Aaron Rodgers get vicious at times,

2174
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:47,520
Speaker 4: you know, when he's speaking honestly, and I think he

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01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:51,680
Speaker 4: handled that pretty well. Because Nathaniel Hackett is responsible in

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01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 4: part for two and they were consecutive MVP seasons for

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01:57:56,400 --> 01:57:58,880
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers in the twenty twenty season, in the twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty one season, So I'm sure he feels like he

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Speaker 4: owes him a lot, at very least defending him against

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01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 4: Sean Payton, who in everybody has estimation, came off pretty

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01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 4: half cock there when he said what he said to

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01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 4: USA today in terms of Nathaniel Hackett. You know, bringing

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01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 4: this full circle, Nathaniel Hackett was not a good head

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01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 4: coach in Denver. So nothing Sean Payton said was incorrect,

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01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 4: it was just inappropriate. And then in terms of signing

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01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 4: Dalvin Cook, you know, to finish up this whole diatribe, man,

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01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:38,640
Speaker 4: if the Jets signed Dalvin Cook, look out because that

2188
01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 4: is going to be a very very very complete offense,

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01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:44,240
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden they're going to be one

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01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:46,080
Speaker 4: of those teams who you look at in the AFC

2191
01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 4: East and you say, well, all of a sudden, the

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01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:51,000
Speaker 4: Jets go from being a team that could could tend

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01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 4: in the East to potentially win the East.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's no doubt. I mean Dalvin Cook. And yesterday

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01:58:58,360 --> 01:59:00,880
Speaker 2: I was talking to Kerrie Rhodes and he says, yeah,

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01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:03,400
Speaker 2: you know, I've followed him back to his Florida State days,

2197
01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:07,160
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking to myself, when has Dalvin Cook not

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01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:11,160
Speaker 2: being a dominant running back. He dominated in college, he's

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Speaker 2: dominated in the NFL. Yeah, And by the way, if

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01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:18,000
Speaker 2: you've been watching the Quarterback Series on Netflix, you had

2201
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Speaker 2: plenty of highlights from Dalvin Cook, which, by the way,

2202
01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:25,360
Speaker 2: is another reason the Vikings will not win thirteen games

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01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 2: this year when you subtract. In fact, I thought it

2204
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 2: was best put by Bucky brook saying if you're if

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01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:35,840
Speaker 2: you're a superstar quarterback like a Tom Brady, you can

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01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:38,480
Speaker 2: get by without a dominant running back. You have quarterback,

2207
01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 2: you know, running back by committee. But if you're a

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01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:45,360
Speaker 2: middle of the road quarterback, if you're Ryan Tannehill, if

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Speaker 2: you're Kirk Cousins, you definitely need a dominant running back.

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Speaker 2: And I think Dalvin Cook is that. I can't even

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01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:57,080
Speaker 2: imagine what Aaron Rodgers would have in store if he

2212
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Speaker 2: has Dalvin Cook in that backfield. By the way, speaking

2213
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Speaker 2: of running backs, they've really been in the news and

2214
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:07,120
Speaker 2: now we've got running backs that have signed new deals

2215
02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 2: still running backs and limbo, and running backs that realizing

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02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:15,080
Speaker 2: they may not get paid by their current team. Want

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Speaker 2: to get traded, We'll have the latest update. This is

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Speaker 2: should be so rich. The month of July twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: they are now saying it's been the hottest month that

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Speaker 2: this planet has seen in what is it, one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty thousand years. I don't know how they know that,

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02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 2: but that's what they're estimating. Is it is hot where

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02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:59,000
Speaker 2: you are on the East coast as what the rest

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Speaker 2: of the country is exp hear and see right now.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, yeah, we're definitely we're definitely getting cooked out

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02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:11,040
Speaker 4: here in Connecticut. Not bad though today we're in the

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02:01:11,080 --> 02:01:14,680
Speaker 4: evening hours, so we're dipping into the mid seventies. So

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02:01:15,720 --> 02:01:18,720
Speaker 4: while I'm here, you know, yammering on with you about

2235
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:21,880
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers and Sean Payton and Nathaniel Hackett, and Russell

2236
02:01:21,920 --> 02:01:25,480
Speaker 4: Wilson in the MLB trade deadline, and you know potentially

2237
02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:28,640
Speaker 4: who we could see having some success out of the

2238
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:31,960
Speaker 4: NFL this season. The rest of the families at the beach.

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Speaker 4: I sacrifice for you, Steve, because I love you and

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Speaker 4: I love sports. Wow. Some days, that's right. Let's go boys, let's.

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Speaker 2: Go by the way. Today, the city of Phoenix, Arizona.

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02:01:44,320 --> 02:01:47,560
Speaker 2: Uh huh, surpassed one hundred and ten degrees for the

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02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:55,880
Speaker 2: thirtieth consecutive day. Wow. That's thirty consecutive days of at

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Speaker 2: least one hundred and ten degrees. They actually snapped a

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02:01:59,320 --> 02:02:03,440
Speaker 2: streak of six sixteen consecutive days where it never got

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02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:10,879
Speaker 2: below ninety at any point, like overnight never got below ninety.

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Speaker 4: Well, I tell this story when when I was when

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02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:20,040
Speaker 4: I was signed by the Arizona Cardinals in twenty twelve. Yeah,

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02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:24,520
Speaker 4: I went out there on July thirty first, because my

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Speaker 4: first day of training camp was going to be August first,

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Speaker 4: So I landed in the valley for my doctor's appointments. Yes,

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02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:33,920
Speaker 4: and they were gonna take me up to practice the

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02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:37,520
Speaker 4: next day up in NAU Northern Arizona University is where

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02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:40,400
Speaker 4: they were hosting training camp. They probably still do. But anyways,

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02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:44,640
Speaker 4: so I go, I go. I go to the doctor's

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Speaker 4: appointments and I get cleared medically, and then I'm just

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02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:51,360
Speaker 4: gonna stay overnight in a hotel in Phoenix. And so

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02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:53,760
Speaker 4: it's like six or seven o'clock at night when I

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02:02:53,800 --> 02:02:56,400
Speaker 4: get finished with all the medical stuff, and I'm just like, man,

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02:02:56,480 --> 02:02:58,720
Speaker 4: it is so hot. It was like one fifteen that day.

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02:02:58,760 --> 02:03:01,560
Speaker 4: I remember it was really really scorching hot. I'm like,

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02:03:01,960 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 4: I'll go back down when the sun sets, you know,

2263
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:07,040
Speaker 4: in summertime, so the sun doesn't set until eight o'clock,

2264
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:08,920
Speaker 4: had some phone calls to make. I might have even

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02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:11,400
Speaker 4: dozed off. I woke up and it was some part

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02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:13,240
Speaker 4: of like nine or ten o'clock at night, and I

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02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:16,520
Speaker 4: was starving. At this point, I'm like, I gotta get something,

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02:03:16,600 --> 02:03:20,000
Speaker 4: so I search on Google Maps real quick. I'm like, oh, yeah,

2269
02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:22,240
Speaker 4: there's like an in and out Burger in the in

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02:03:22,280 --> 02:03:25,280
Speaker 4: the parking lot across the street. So I go down

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02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:28,800
Speaker 4: to the lobby and the double doors of the lobby

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02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:33,000
Speaker 4: slide open, and I am met with what feels like

2273
02:03:33,080 --> 02:03:35,680
Speaker 4: when you open up like a three hundred and fifty

2274
02:03:35,720 --> 02:03:39,040
Speaker 4: degree oven. When it finished pre hitting preheating. You get

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02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:42,240
Speaker 4: that just wind of heat that just hits your face like.

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02:03:42,240 --> 02:03:43,120
Speaker 2: A furnace heat.

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02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:46,600
Speaker 4: I like tumbled back into the lobby. I'm like, I'm like,

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02:03:46,680 --> 02:03:48,800
Speaker 4: oh my god. I was like, do you guys have

2279
02:03:48,920 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 4: like the heater on on this door? And the guy goes, no,

2280
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:52,960
Speaker 4: that's the temperature.

2281
02:03:53,320 --> 02:03:54,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, so hot?

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02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:57,720
Speaker 4: How hot is it? He points to the screen in

2283
02:03:57,760 --> 02:04:00,360
Speaker 4: the lobby that gives you the updated weather. It said

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02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:03,160
Speaker 4: it was one twelve and it was ten o'clock at night.

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02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:05,480
Speaker 4: I just decided to go to sleep hungry.

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02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:08,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, you'm not excited at that point to be

2288
02:04:08,360 --> 02:04:08,919
Speaker 2: a cardinal?

2289
02:04:09,240 --> 02:04:13,080
Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh, I was thrilled. I was really hoping it

2290
02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:14,000
Speaker 4: was going to work out.

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02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:17,080
Speaker 2: How did that change when he went from Arizona to

2292
02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:18,360
Speaker 2: San Diego. Uh?

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02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 4: Well, let's put it this way. When when my former

2294
02:04:22,240 --> 02:04:25,040
Speaker 4: head coach got hired as an offensive coordinator in San

2295
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:27,640
Speaker 4: Diego and said he wanted me to come with him,

2296
02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:29,880
Speaker 4: he didn't realize that I was going to be on

2297
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:32,360
Speaker 4: the next thing smoking. I showed up the next day

2298
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:35,280
Speaker 4: and he was like, oh wow, He's like, are you're

2299
02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:37,640
Speaker 4: visiting already? I'm like, well, you said you wanted me

2300
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Speaker 4: saw I'm here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I tell you what. Yes, it's been hot.

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02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:45,240
Speaker 2: So again, do your best out there to stay as

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02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:48,960
Speaker 2: cool as possible, especially our friends out there in Arizona. Wow,

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02:04:49,080 --> 02:04:52,000
Speaker 2: that is that is cooking. All right, let's talk about

2305
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:58,440
Speaker 2: running backs right now, your Nitney lion sa Kwan Barkley. Yeah,

2306
02:04:58,720 --> 02:05:01,960
Speaker 2: decided that, but he will not hold out a training camp.

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02:05:02,240 --> 02:05:05,440
Speaker 2: He signed a one year deal worth eleven million, which

2308
02:05:05,600 --> 02:05:08,800
Speaker 2: was roughly what his franchise tag was. There's some incentives

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02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:11,080
Speaker 2: to get and get up to eleven million. It's actual

2310
02:05:11,120 --> 02:05:14,600
Speaker 2: franchise tag was ten point one. Ask why he did this,

2311
02:05:14,680 --> 02:05:18,040
Speaker 2: he said, I had an epiphany. Now this is not

2312
02:05:18,080 --> 02:05:21,480
Speaker 2: a word that's used often around the National Football League.

2313
02:05:21,960 --> 02:05:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure out exactly why he had

2314
02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:30,880
Speaker 2: this epiphany, but it doesn't I guess maybe it was

2315
02:05:30,920 --> 02:05:34,240
Speaker 2: the aftermath of that big meeting, you know, the zoom

2316
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:36,560
Speaker 2: call with all the running backs or they were talking

2317
02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:38,760
Speaker 2: about we got to sort of come together as a

2318
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:42,560
Speaker 2: group if we want to you know, strength the numbers.

2319
02:05:42,640 --> 02:05:45,240
Speaker 2: And they came out of that with a reality check,

2320
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:52,680
Speaker 2: probably from the agents as much as anything else, saying sorry, guys,

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02:05:52,720 --> 02:05:56,000
Speaker 2: there's nothing we can do about this. So the idea

2322
02:05:56,040 --> 02:06:01,280
Speaker 2: of sitting out a year and forfeiting ten million, it's

2323
02:06:01,320 --> 02:06:04,840
Speaker 2: probably not a good idea. If they're offering you that money,

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02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:11,600
Speaker 2: take it. And so really, this story to me is

2325
02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:18,040
Speaker 2: over uh in terms of any kind of windfall from

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02:06:18,080 --> 02:06:21,280
Speaker 2: all the noise being made by this collective of running

2327
02:06:21,320 --> 02:06:25,040
Speaker 2: backs that you know where being truly you know, unfairly

2328
02:06:25,120 --> 02:06:27,640
Speaker 2: treated you are. But there's there's not a lot you

2329
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:30,360
Speaker 2: can do about it, right, And I don't even know

2330
02:06:30,640 --> 02:06:32,880
Speaker 2: because when Jim Murs, say, the owner of the Colts

2331
02:06:32,920 --> 02:06:35,840
Speaker 2: brought up a collective bargaining agreement and both sides had

2332
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:38,280
Speaker 2: to make concessions to make it all work for everybody else.

2333
02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 2: The idea that you're going to single out a single

2334
02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:45,560
Speaker 2: position and say, well, you're going to have to dedicate

2335
02:06:45,720 --> 02:06:48,800
Speaker 2: more of your salary cap toward this position, I mean,

2336
02:06:48,840 --> 02:06:52,640
Speaker 2: what what does that mean? Maybe some team will We've

2337
02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:56,640
Speaker 2: seen teams unfortunately fork over a lot of money. Let's

2338
02:06:56,680 --> 02:07:01,160
Speaker 2: go down the list. Todd Gurley, David Johnson, Ezekiel Elliott,

2339
02:07:01,160 --> 02:07:04,120
Speaker 2: any other running backs come to mind. Well, listen, where

2340
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:08,560
Speaker 2: they were overspending on a position that did not produce.

2341
02:07:08,760 --> 02:07:13,080
Speaker 4: Well, it's only overspending when it doesn't work right, you

2342
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:15,960
Speaker 4: know so. I mean there have been running back contracts

2343
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:18,760
Speaker 4: like Derrick Henry's that have worked out and they had

2344
02:07:18,760 --> 02:07:20,840
Speaker 4: to sign. Austin Eckler, by the way, is on a

2345
02:07:20,880 --> 02:07:23,840
Speaker 4: second contract. Yes, he's not on his rookie deal. He

2346
02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:28,680
Speaker 4: just wanted further. He wanted to re up his second contract.

2347
02:07:29,040 --> 02:07:33,040
Speaker 4: You know. So there are times where contracts for running

2348
02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:35,440
Speaker 4: backs work out too. We just like to highlight the

2349
02:07:35,480 --> 02:07:38,960
Speaker 4: ones that don't to prove the point. Now, I'm with you.

2350
02:07:39,720 --> 02:07:42,919
Speaker 4: Running backs in terms of their value in the NFL

2351
02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:46,560
Speaker 4: have been diminished, and there's a lot of people who

2352
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:49,000
Speaker 4: are going to defend running backs who are going to say, yeah,

2353
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:51,280
Speaker 4: but look at the Derek Henry or look at a

2354
02:07:51,320 --> 02:07:53,720
Speaker 4: Sakuon Barkley, or look at it, Josh Jacobs, or look

2355
02:07:53,720 --> 02:07:56,839
Speaker 4: at Dalvin Cook. There's still teams out there who really

2356
02:07:56,920 --> 02:07:59,600
Speaker 4: need to have like a Bell Cow running back in

2357
02:07:59,680 --> 02:08:02,680
Speaker 4: order for offense to go. Okay, Well, you just named

2358
02:08:02,680 --> 02:08:07,640
Speaker 4: five teams. Name five more. It's hard to do. And

2359
02:08:07,720 --> 02:08:10,160
Speaker 4: the reason why it's hard to do is because very

2360
02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:14,680
Speaker 4: few teams rely on one bell Cow running back anymore.

2361
02:08:15,240 --> 02:08:17,360
Speaker 4: In the days of Terrell Davis, you can find a

2362
02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:20,280
Speaker 4: lot in the days of MTT. Smith, you can find

2363
02:08:20,320 --> 02:08:24,320
Speaker 4: a lot. You can't find a lot anymore. It's just

2364
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:26,520
Speaker 4: not the way teams are built anymore. There isn't as

2365
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:30,080
Speaker 4: much of an emphasis on running the football. There's a

2366
02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:34,520
Speaker 4: huge emphasis on passing the football. That's why quarterbacks contracts

2367
02:08:34,600 --> 02:08:39,040
Speaker 4: have skyrocketed. That's the reason why wide receivers contracts have skyrocketed.

2368
02:08:39,800 --> 02:08:43,920
Speaker 4: Right and left tackle contracts have skyrocketed. Protecting the passer,

2369
02:08:44,120 --> 02:08:46,920
Speaker 4: getting the passes thrown, catching the passes, that's the reason

2370
02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:51,680
Speaker 4: why pass rushers contracts have skyrocketed. Same thing with corners.

2371
02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:56,160
Speaker 4: Stopping the pass like this league is very simple. It

2372
02:08:56,280 --> 02:08:59,400
Speaker 4: is still a line of scrimmage game like you still

2373
02:08:59,440 --> 02:09:03,120
Speaker 4: need to have strong offensive and defensive line. You need

2374
02:09:03,160 --> 02:09:05,480
Speaker 4: to be able to stop the run. There's no question

2375
02:09:05,600 --> 02:09:07,440
Speaker 4: you're gonna need to be able to stick the run

2376
02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:11,280
Speaker 4: up in there to keep the defense honest. But it

2377
02:09:11,440 --> 02:09:15,600
Speaker 4: is a passing league. This is what the commissioner and

2378
02:09:15,640 --> 02:09:18,760
Speaker 4: all the owners want, and frankly, this is what the

2379
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:23,480
Speaker 4: players want too, Because every single time somebody's fantasy roster

2380
02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:26,960
Speaker 4: sends them alert that they're in the red zone, they're

2381
02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:29,240
Speaker 4: not looking at their running backs anymore. They're looking at

2382
02:09:29,240 --> 02:09:31,360
Speaker 4: their Oh, which one of my wide receivers is going

2383
02:09:31,440 --> 02:09:34,760
Speaker 4: to catch a touchdown? Here? Oh, I got two of

2384
02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:37,560
Speaker 4: the Chiefs wideouts because I knew they were gonna be

2385
02:09:37,600 --> 02:09:40,880
Speaker 4: in the red zone all weekend long. Like this is

2386
02:09:40,960 --> 02:09:43,800
Speaker 4: where the NFL is going, So yeah, I get it.

2387
02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:46,720
Speaker 4: It feels unfair because running backs are still getting a

2388
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:49,880
Speaker 4: lot of passes thrown to them. They're still they're still

2389
02:09:49,880 --> 02:09:53,160
Speaker 4: getting a lot of rushing yards some of them, but

2390
02:09:53,280 --> 02:09:56,600
Speaker 4: the vast majority of teams are getting away from the

2391
02:09:56,640 --> 02:10:00,160
Speaker 4: one back system. They're going with two backs, some of

2392
02:10:00,160 --> 02:10:03,280
Speaker 4: them are going with three backs. Some of them aren't

2393
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:06,080
Speaker 4: even going with a running back that's going to be

2394
02:10:06,160 --> 02:10:10,280
Speaker 4: their workhorse. It's almost equal shares. Like the Kansas City

2395
02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:14,200
Speaker 4: Chiefs named during the Patrick Mahomes era, the one running

2396
02:10:14,240 --> 02:10:16,600
Speaker 4: back who really sticks out like a sore thrum that

2397
02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:20,280
Speaker 4: won them a championship or got them close. You can't.

2398
02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:24,120
Speaker 4: It's not what Andy Reid does. And it's a copycat league.

2399
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:26,200
Speaker 4: All these other teams are getting away from it. Two.

2400
02:10:26,280 --> 02:10:28,760
Speaker 4: They're becoming more past centric, and I don't blame them,

2401
02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:31,240
Speaker 4: because it's a very effective strategy to win in the league.

2402
02:10:31,240 --> 02:10:33,879
Speaker 4: These days.

2403
02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:37,680
Speaker 2: It's interesting and again try to gauge the value is

2404
02:10:37,800 --> 02:10:41,920
Speaker 2: based on yards yards per attend. For instance, the top

2405
02:10:42,200 --> 02:10:46,800
Speaker 2: four rushing yards per attempt in the NFL last year.

2406
02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:50,800
Speaker 2: Here are the names ready rushing yards per attempt. Okay,

2407
02:10:50,840 --> 02:10:57,640
Speaker 2: the top four were justin fields, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen,

2408
02:10:58,280 --> 02:11:06,200
Speaker 2: and Daniel Jones. Those are quarterbacks. Yeah, so they actually

2409
02:11:06,240 --> 02:11:09,960
Speaker 2: averaged more yards per attent than any running backs did

2410
02:11:10,720 --> 02:11:14,640
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Jonathan Taylor, so he's the end of

2411
02:11:14,640 --> 02:11:16,680
Speaker 2: the rookie deal. He had injuries a year ago, but

2412
02:11:16,880 --> 02:11:19,560
Speaker 2: the two previous years obviously one of the dominant running

2413
02:11:19,560 --> 02:11:22,000
Speaker 2: backs in the league. He has an owner that made

2414
02:11:22,080 --> 02:11:25,920
Speaker 2: comments specifically about the fact that, you know, running backs

2415
02:11:26,120 --> 02:11:30,240
Speaker 2: shouldn't be complaining about their deal. And so Taylor immediately says,

2416
02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:33,160
Speaker 2: I want to be traded, and Jim Ursay says, I

2417
02:11:33,200 --> 02:11:36,280
Speaker 2: ain't trading you. Are you kidding me? We're going to

2418
02:11:36,400 --> 02:11:41,760
Speaker 2: use you up whatever you got left. Just the nature

2419
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:43,560
Speaker 2: of the business. I guess you could always choose a

2420
02:11:43,560 --> 02:11:46,040
Speaker 2: different business, right if you're unhappy. Isn't that an option?

2421
02:11:46,360 --> 02:11:51,760
Speaker 4: Here's the deal. I just like I compare things that

2422
02:11:51,800 --> 02:11:54,360
Speaker 4: are going out of fashion to the days of the

2423
02:11:54,480 --> 02:12:00,200
Speaker 4: horse drawn carriage. Right there came along the automobile, and

2424
02:12:00,280 --> 02:12:03,520
Speaker 4: there were still people who were saying, there is no

2425
02:12:03,680 --> 02:12:04,840
Speaker 4: way this catch is on.

2426
02:12:05,040 --> 02:12:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is no way. Bad horse and buggies looking good.

2427
02:12:08,880 --> 02:12:13,360
Speaker 4: Oh dude, it's but it's a bygone era. Like these

2428
02:12:13,520 --> 02:12:17,880
Speaker 4: running backs. They sound like buggy whip salesman's. They sound

2429
02:12:17,920 --> 02:12:21,000
Speaker 4: like people are selling harnesses for horses. You know, they're

2430
02:12:21,040 --> 02:12:24,280
Speaker 4: trying to hold on to something that I mean, frankly,

2431
02:12:24,680 --> 02:12:28,960
Speaker 4: the necessity of the running back in the NFL is vestigial.

2432
02:12:29,480 --> 02:12:32,240
Speaker 4: For certain teams, they build their offense around it, but

2433
02:12:32,360 --> 02:12:36,800
Speaker 4: for others, it's becoming something that is completely useless. Like

2434
02:12:37,400 --> 02:12:41,520
Speaker 4: the Kansas City Chiefs, they if they lose a running back,

2435
02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:44,760
Speaker 4: they replace a running back. In fact, they lost their

2436
02:12:44,760 --> 02:12:48,160
Speaker 4: best wide receiver arguably a Hall of Fame wide receiver

2437
02:12:48,520 --> 02:12:52,000
Speaker 4: when he left and Tyreek Hill after only five seasons

2438
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:56,000
Speaker 4: with the Kansas City Chiefs. I mean, Tyreek Hill was

2439
02:12:56,160 --> 02:13:00,160
Speaker 4: an impactful offensive weapon. They found a way to replace him.

2440
02:13:00,440 --> 02:13:02,240
Speaker 4: You know, it doesn't matter who they're going to stick

2441
02:13:02,240 --> 02:13:04,480
Speaker 4: in there at running back. And I know maybe they're exceptional,

2442
02:13:04,520 --> 02:13:07,320
Speaker 4: and that's a poor example, but the same thing with

2443
02:13:07,400 --> 02:13:10,880
Speaker 4: a lot of these offenses they don't require a bell

2444
02:13:11,000 --> 02:13:14,120
Speaker 4: cow running back, and so the position has been devalued.

2445
02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:17,320
Speaker 4: If they're not doing it intentionally, it's just the way

2446
02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:20,000
Speaker 4: the world is going. It's just the way these offensive

2447
02:13:20,080 --> 02:13:25,400
Speaker 4: minds want to exploit the vertical passing game as opposed

2448
02:13:25,400 --> 02:13:27,480
Speaker 4: to try to hand the ball to a running back

2449
02:13:27,520 --> 02:13:31,040
Speaker 4: and get, you know, a six yard carry. You know, yeah,

2450
02:13:31,080 --> 02:13:33,480
Speaker 4: that's great. That sets you up for a very manageable

2451
02:13:33,520 --> 02:13:35,320
Speaker 4: second down. But you know what sets you up for

2452
02:13:35,360 --> 02:13:38,440
Speaker 4: a very manageable second down not having a second down,

2453
02:13:38,680 --> 02:13:42,240
Speaker 4: catching a fifteen yard slant and having another first down.

2454
02:13:42,720 --> 02:13:45,960
Speaker 4: And that's how a lot of offensive coordinators, unfortunately think

2455
02:13:46,040 --> 02:13:46,600
Speaker 4: these days.

2456
02:13:47,000 --> 02:13:49,160
Speaker 2: All right, coming up on the other side, there is

2457
02:13:49,200 --> 02:13:54,320
Speaker 2: a team whose coach is on the hot seat and

2458
02:13:54,400 --> 02:13:56,800
Speaker 2: he's not used to it. We'll tell you who this is.

2459
02:13:56,920 --> 02:14:04,480
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday Steve Harbin and Rich Harnberger back here

2460
02:14:04,640 --> 02:14:07,800
Speaker 2: live from the tai iraq dot Com studios here on

2461
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. John Woodin was a remarkable man. Not

2462
02:14:16,480 --> 02:14:19,640
Speaker 2: only obviously one of the greatest coaches of any sport ever,

2463
02:14:20,640 --> 02:14:25,080
Speaker 2: but I had the good fortune of having many conversations

2464
02:14:25,120 --> 02:14:27,480
Speaker 2: over the years with John Wooden. He was just a

2465
02:14:27,520 --> 02:14:33,400
Speaker 2: wonderful man, Eagle lists, at least in his interaction with

2466
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:37,920
Speaker 2: everyday people. He had a great sense of humor. But

2467
02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:40,040
Speaker 2: I always felt like, in a lot of ways Rich

2468
02:14:40,120 --> 02:14:43,200
Speaker 2: that what he accomplished at UCLA was a little underrated.

2469
02:14:43,280 --> 02:14:45,800
Speaker 2: And I put it this way. So he had his

2470
02:14:45,840 --> 02:14:49,520
Speaker 2: greatest success during the late sixties and early seventies, which

2471
02:14:49,760 --> 02:14:53,360
Speaker 2: if you remember, is when there was more student unrest

2472
02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:58,200
Speaker 2: on campuses than any time maybe ever. We obviously had

2473
02:14:58,240 --> 02:15:00,880
Speaker 2: the Vietnam War, we had protest going on, the civil

2474
02:15:01,000 --> 02:15:04,560
Speaker 2: rights movement. His two biggest stars, Leuel Sender of course

2475
02:15:04,600 --> 02:15:07,480
Speaker 2: would become Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Bill Walton were very

2476
02:15:07,520 --> 02:15:12,040
Speaker 2: active in school activities in terms of these protests, and

2477
02:15:12,080 --> 02:15:15,240
Speaker 2: it seemed like an era where authority was looked down upon,

2478
02:15:16,520 --> 02:15:23,320
Speaker 2: and yet here was somebody who maintained a style from

2479
02:15:23,560 --> 02:15:30,280
Speaker 2: decades earlier and didn't change. And he told even his

2480
02:15:30,320 --> 02:15:33,800
Speaker 2: biggest stars, if you're going to play for me, this

2481
02:15:33,840 --> 02:15:37,240
Speaker 2: is the way things are going to be. And they

2482
02:15:37,280 --> 02:15:40,960
Speaker 2: had so much respect for him, even if he seemed

2483
02:15:41,000 --> 02:15:43,680
Speaker 2: out of line with everything that they were involved with

2484
02:15:43,760 --> 02:15:49,040
Speaker 2: as students at the time. Somehow it worked. The reason

2485
02:15:49,160 --> 02:15:52,760
Speaker 2: I bring this up is that you have Bill Belichick,

2486
02:15:52,840 --> 02:15:57,960
Speaker 2: who is the most successful coach in NFL history. He's

2487
02:15:58,000 --> 02:16:00,839
Speaker 2: not just a father figure, he's a grand father figure

2488
02:16:01,600 --> 02:16:04,640
Speaker 2: to these guys. I mean he's now in his seventies.

2489
02:16:05,280 --> 02:16:09,800
Speaker 2: Only Pete Carroll is older among currents coaches. And there's

2490
02:16:09,840 --> 02:16:14,760
Speaker 2: this idea that you have to change with the times. Yeah,

2491
02:16:14,840 --> 02:16:17,960
Speaker 2: Like it's not like it was twenty years ago or

2492
02:16:18,080 --> 02:16:24,400
Speaker 2: ten years ago. It's constantly evolving. And Belichick, I believe,

2493
02:16:24,520 --> 02:16:28,720
Speaker 2: is one that still believes in his own formula for success.

2494
02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:31,520
Speaker 2: This is a fine line, and I like to get

2495
02:16:31,560 --> 02:16:34,800
Speaker 2: your perspective on this rich as a guy that played

2496
02:16:34,800 --> 02:16:39,520
Speaker 2: in this league, because we constantly hear the idea, Well,

2497
02:16:39,760 --> 02:16:42,480
Speaker 2: you know, players identify with this coach because he's a

2498
02:16:42,520 --> 02:16:46,480
Speaker 2: younger coach, like he's almost a contemporary as opposed to

2499
02:16:46,640 --> 02:16:50,040
Speaker 2: someone that is, you know, again could literally be a

2500
02:16:50,080 --> 02:16:54,400
Speaker 2: grandfather to some of the players currently on this New

2501
02:16:54,400 --> 02:17:00,440
Speaker 2: England Patriots' roster. So moving forward, where there's pressure, I mean,

2502
02:17:00,480 --> 02:17:04,400
Speaker 2: Belichick again, in three years without Tom Brady's had two

2503
02:17:04,440 --> 02:17:06,640
Speaker 2: losing seasons and the only year they made it to

2504
02:17:06,680 --> 02:17:10,520
Speaker 2: the playoffs, they lost. So there's not a lot they're

2505
02:17:10,680 --> 02:17:13,240
Speaker 2: saying that this team's been going in the right direction,

2506
02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:16,480
Speaker 2: and only more difficult in a division that now has

2507
02:17:16,520 --> 02:17:19,360
Speaker 2: added Aaron Rodgers to be the quarterback of the New

2508
02:17:19,440 --> 02:17:23,840
Speaker 2: York Jets. So how do you think Belichick should approach it?

2509
02:17:23,959 --> 02:17:27,039
Speaker 2: Should he stick to his guns? And if he does

2510
02:17:27,160 --> 02:17:31,360
Speaker 2: have to change, is he capable of changing at this point?

2511
02:17:32,040 --> 02:17:36,560
Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think he's going to change much. Okay,

2512
02:17:37,360 --> 02:17:41,039
Speaker 4: I do think that his way can still win in

2513
02:17:41,120 --> 02:17:45,440
Speaker 4: this league. But he's going to have to find a

2514
02:17:45,480 --> 02:17:52,280
Speaker 4: way to get Mac Jones to become a great quarterback

2515
02:17:52,320 --> 02:17:57,039
Speaker 4: in this league. Because, let's face it, Bill Belichick, if

2516
02:17:57,040 --> 02:18:01,560
Speaker 4: there's one thing that was synonymous with his winning was

2517
02:18:01,720 --> 02:18:07,240
Speaker 4: the greatness of Tom Brady. So if Mac Jones, if

2518
02:18:07,280 --> 02:18:12,440
Speaker 4: he's not great, then the chances of his message being

2519
02:18:12,520 --> 02:18:16,800
Speaker 4: well received by those who walk through the doors in Foxborough,

2520
02:18:17,360 --> 02:18:21,360
Speaker 4: it diminishes by the day. So bringing back Billy O'Brien

2521
02:18:21,480 --> 02:18:24,240
Speaker 4: was very smart because Billy O'Brien had a lot of

2522
02:18:24,280 --> 02:18:29,520
Speaker 4: success with Tom Brady. Billy O'Brien's offense netted them Super Bowls.

2523
02:18:30,400 --> 02:18:32,720
Speaker 4: You know, you have to bring in a guy who's

2524
02:18:32,800 --> 02:18:37,280
Speaker 4: capable of running an offense. Matt Patricia and Joe Judge

2525
02:18:37,520 --> 02:18:41,080
Speaker 4: were not offensive coordinators. They were getting the tryout during

2526
02:18:41,120 --> 02:18:45,560
Speaker 4: training camp and they basically I'm talking about Bill did.

2527
02:18:45,680 --> 02:18:50,160
Speaker 4: He basically sacrificed a year of Mac Jones with a

2528
02:18:50,640 --> 02:18:53,920
Speaker 4: potential test I guess, to see if Matt Patricia could

2529
02:18:54,000 --> 02:18:57,200
Speaker 4: hack it as an offensive coordinator before having to pay

2530
02:18:57,240 --> 02:18:59,720
Speaker 4: whatever it is they paid Billy O'Brien to come back

2531
02:18:59,760 --> 02:19:02,240
Speaker 4: to New England. Now, I'm sure he might have gotten

2532
02:19:02,280 --> 02:19:05,360
Speaker 4: him on, you know, the friendly discount, because they work

2533
02:19:05,440 --> 02:19:08,680
Speaker 4: together in the past, and Billy O'Brien's career in the

2534
02:19:08,840 --> 02:19:11,959
Speaker 4: NFL or in college football launched as a result of

2535
02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:14,800
Speaker 4: being a part of the Patriots Bill Belichick, you know,

2536
02:19:14,959 --> 02:19:17,880
Speaker 4: coaching tree. But still, I mean, if he could have

2537
02:19:17,959 --> 02:19:19,800
Speaker 4: made it work without him, I'm sure he would have

2538
02:19:20,200 --> 02:19:23,160
Speaker 4: liked that better. But he couldn't. So he needs Mac

2539
02:19:23,240 --> 02:19:25,760
Speaker 4: Jones to be great. Because if mac Jones is great,

2540
02:19:25,800 --> 02:19:28,560
Speaker 4: then guess what you can do. You can lure people

2541
02:19:28,680 --> 02:19:31,160
Speaker 4: in trade or free agency to come to New England

2542
02:19:31,160 --> 02:19:34,640
Speaker 4: again and make that team better. Look as good of

2543
02:19:34,720 --> 02:19:37,480
Speaker 4: a coach can be. And there are certain coaches out

2544
02:19:37,480 --> 02:19:39,760
Speaker 4: there who are great. You mentioned one of them, Pete Carroll.

2545
02:19:39,760 --> 02:19:43,320
Speaker 4: Another one's Andy Reid. I spoke about Doug Peterson. These

2546
02:19:43,520 --> 02:19:46,199
Speaker 4: these guys, they're great coaches, but you know what makes

2547
02:19:46,240 --> 02:19:51,520
Speaker 4: them great great players? Andy Reid has Patrick Mahomes, you know,

2548
02:19:51,800 --> 02:19:54,640
Speaker 4: I mean Doug Peterson we kind of laugh at him now,

2549
02:19:54,680 --> 02:19:58,320
Speaker 4: but Carson Wentz was on an absolute tear before his

2550
02:19:58,440 --> 02:20:01,360
Speaker 4: knee injury, and then Nick was able to step in there.

2551
02:20:01,360 --> 02:20:03,480
Speaker 4: And Doug Peterson really proved how good of a coach

2552
02:20:03,480 --> 02:20:05,720
Speaker 4: he was by getting that Super Bowl against the Patriots

2553
02:20:05,720 --> 02:20:07,360
Speaker 4: with Nick Folts. I mean that was incredible.

2554
02:20:07,400 --> 02:20:09,800
Speaker 2: Okay, can I interject for a second here You mentioned

2555
02:20:09,840 --> 02:20:12,360
Speaker 2: Andy Reid. Yeah, so again, if you've been watching the

2556
02:20:12,400 --> 02:20:17,760
Speaker 2: Quarterback Series and they obviously have a lot of on

2557
02:20:18,120 --> 02:20:22,680
Speaker 2: field interaction going on between Mahomes and Reid. Yeah, yeah,

2558
02:20:22,760 --> 02:20:26,320
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Mahomes is disrespectful of his head coach,

2559
02:20:28,120 --> 02:20:31,600
Speaker 2: but he seemed rather dismissive of him. I mean it

2560
02:20:31,640 --> 02:20:35,000
Speaker 2: was almost like every time Reid approached Mahomes about something,

2561
02:20:35,040 --> 02:20:38,120
Speaker 2: whether it was an injury or some kind of play

2562
02:20:38,320 --> 02:20:46,920
Speaker 2: they ran, he he almost came up timidly to Mahomes. Yeah,

2563
02:20:46,959 --> 02:20:50,800
Speaker 2: in almost every instance that there was an interaction on

2564
02:20:50,840 --> 02:20:55,480
Speaker 2: the field, and then of course off the field, I mean,

2565
02:20:55,640 --> 02:21:00,960
Speaker 2: he could not hug mahomes wife enough. Now I'll give

2566
02:21:00,959 --> 02:21:06,560
Speaker 2: any recredit. He recognizes again that this kid guaranteed me

2567
02:21:06,600 --> 02:21:09,720
Speaker 2: a slot in the Hall of Fame. It also guarantees

2568
02:21:09,800 --> 02:21:12,200
Speaker 2: that I can stay employed for as long as I

2569
02:21:12,240 --> 02:21:14,280
Speaker 2: want to be employed as a head coach, as long

2570
02:21:14,280 --> 02:21:18,200
Speaker 2: as this kid is my quarterback. Yeah, I asked that

2571
02:21:18,320 --> 02:21:23,240
Speaker 2: only because I recognize the red recognizes this kid is

2572
02:21:23,280 --> 02:21:28,279
Speaker 2: my goal ticket. Literally everything as Belichick, as Belichick really

2573
02:21:28,400 --> 02:21:33,600
Speaker 2: ever accepted the fact, yes, that Tom Brady to a

2574
02:21:33,840 --> 02:21:37,440
Speaker 2: large degree made him, Yes, as successful.

2575
02:21:37,640 --> 02:21:41,000
Speaker 4: Oh, there's no doubt. Look, if there's one thing Belichick is,

2576
02:21:41,720 --> 02:21:44,480
Speaker 4: and I believe this having worked with him for three

2577
02:21:44,560 --> 02:21:48,000
Speaker 4: years and then covering the Patriots over the course of

2578
02:21:48,000 --> 02:21:51,039
Speaker 4: my broadcasting career and competing against them the latter half

2579
02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:55,440
Speaker 4: of my career in the NFL, Bill Belichick is an

2580
02:21:55,560 --> 02:22:00,360
Speaker 4: excellent self scouter. He knows what they're deficient in. He

2581
02:22:00,480 --> 02:22:04,760
Speaker 4: knows what the team he knows best aren't the teams

2582
02:22:04,760 --> 02:22:07,120
Speaker 4: that he's beaten up on it in division over the

2583
02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:09,320
Speaker 4: course of the years. You know, the Dolphins, the Jets,

2584
02:22:09,480 --> 02:22:11,720
Speaker 4: the Bills for the majority of their time over this

2585
02:22:11,879 --> 02:22:15,039
Speaker 4: you know, two decade reign until very recently with Josh

2586
02:22:15,040 --> 02:22:18,440
Speaker 4: Allen coming in there. If there's one thing he recognizes

2587
02:22:18,959 --> 02:22:22,199
Speaker 4: is coaches are made in this league by their quarterbacks. Yes,

2588
02:22:22,680 --> 02:22:24,760
Speaker 4: they are made by their quarterbacks. I'm talking about the

2589
02:22:24,840 --> 02:22:27,760
Speaker 4: championship winning coaches. And he has a championship winning coach,

2590
02:22:28,200 --> 02:22:30,720
Speaker 4: and and so that's my point. I mean to to

2591
02:22:30,959 --> 02:22:33,440
Speaker 4: just sort of, you know, complete the circle here of

2592
02:22:33,480 --> 02:22:36,440
Speaker 4: the point I was making, Steve is every single great coach,

2593
02:22:36,680 --> 02:22:39,360
Speaker 4: tell me the name of any single great coach, and

2594
02:22:39,400 --> 02:22:42,400
Speaker 4: then then then to me in the same breath, tell

2595
02:22:42,440 --> 02:22:45,840
Speaker 4: me their Hall of Fame quarterback. Because that's what makes

2596
02:22:45,840 --> 02:22:48,920
Speaker 4: a great coach in the NFL, you know, I I

2597
02:22:48,959 --> 02:22:53,000
Speaker 4: it's I get it, like you know, uh there there

2598
02:22:53,040 --> 02:22:55,840
Speaker 4: there are, there are there are men out there who

2599
02:22:56,000 --> 02:22:59,200
Speaker 4: are great leaders. And there are coaches out there who

2600
02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:03,600
Speaker 4: have led men to the Promised Land, to the playoffs,

2601
02:23:03,640 --> 02:23:08,160
Speaker 4: two championships, to winning championships. But what it takes is

2602
02:23:08,520 --> 02:23:12,240
Speaker 4: aside the leadership, aside the scheming and the play calling

2603
02:23:12,280 --> 02:23:15,120
Speaker 4: and the defenses and all this stuff that's all intent.

2604
02:23:15,640 --> 02:23:19,560
Speaker 4: What you cannot teach is how Tom Brady operates in

2605
02:23:19,560 --> 02:23:22,680
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter is how Peyton Manning's brain breaks apart

2606
02:23:22,680 --> 02:23:28,879
Speaker 4: a defense. Is how Russell Wilson can be clutch throughout Well,

2607
02:23:29,480 --> 02:23:32,200
Speaker 4: I should say multiple runs, but he only had really

2608
02:23:32,240 --> 02:23:36,000
Speaker 4: two deep runs. Aaron Rodgers the same thing for one

2609
02:23:36,120 --> 02:23:39,560
Speaker 4: great run in the postseason. The point being is you

2610
02:23:39,680 --> 02:23:42,440
Speaker 4: go to any coach and you talk about their greatness,

2611
02:23:42,480 --> 02:23:44,200
Speaker 4: you have to go to their quarterback next. And that's

2612
02:23:44,240 --> 02:23:46,360
Speaker 4: the same with Belichick, and he is trying to make

2613
02:23:46,400 --> 02:23:49,200
Speaker 4: Mac Jones that next quarterback. And if he doesn't, it's

2614
02:23:49,240 --> 02:23:51,600
Speaker 4: not gonna work because you need a great quarterback in

2615
02:23:51,640 --> 02:23:53,280
Speaker 4: this league to be a great coach. All right.

2616
02:23:53,480 --> 02:23:56,560
Speaker 2: And by the way, changing with the times, Sam needs

2617
02:23:56,640 --> 02:23:59,720
Speaker 2: to change with the times. He refuses to recognize X.

2618
02:24:00,120 --> 02:24:03,320
Speaker 2: He says it will always be Twitter, and and just

2619
02:24:03,360 --> 02:24:06,119
Speaker 2: that that's what he said. Yeah, he will never ever

2620
02:24:06,280 --> 02:24:10,360
Speaker 2: ever term Twitter as I'm staying a traditionalist on this

2621
02:24:10,600 --> 02:24:12,760
Speaker 2: on this topic, on this topic. Yes, by the way,

2622
02:24:12,760 --> 02:24:15,879
Speaker 2: has your phone change? Yes? X, No, it has the app?

2623
02:24:16,879 --> 02:24:19,600
Speaker 2: A the app once? Okay, it'll be gone forever.

2624
02:24:20,640 --> 02:24:23,120
Speaker 4: I'm ax, i'max all the way right now, there's an

2625
02:24:23,120 --> 02:24:26,000
Speaker 4: AX at the top of my Twitter feed. I guess

2626
02:24:26,040 --> 02:24:27,360
Speaker 4: I should say there's an X on top.

2627
02:24:27,440 --> 02:24:30,320
Speaker 2: Well, let's find out what's trending right now? Mance, do

2628
02:24:30,400 --> 02:24:32,879
Speaker 2: you have the X or is it still Twitter? Hers?

2629
02:24:32,959 --> 02:24:34,320
Speaker 2: Is still Twitter? Look at that?

2630
02:24:34,440 --> 02:24:36,800
Speaker 8: Still Twitter? And I've opened it, I've closed the app.

2631
02:24:36,879 --> 02:24:38,560
Speaker 8: I've done It's still Twitter mine too.

2632
02:24:38,920 --> 02:24:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. You guys just don't update your phone.

2633
02:24:41,000 --> 02:24:42,120
Speaker 6: So yeah, and that could be it.

2634
02:24:42,160 --> 02:24:44,640
Speaker 8: And guess what now, I'm never updating it again. Wow,

2635
02:24:44,760 --> 02:24:47,920
Speaker 8: it's gonna stay. It's gonna stay Twitter. Okay, I'm with you, Sam,

2636
02:24:48,480 --> 02:24:49,640
Speaker 8: We're not calling his X.

2637
02:24:49,800 --> 02:24:52,160
Speaker 2: Here's here's the one thing I said when Twitter was

2638
02:24:52,200 --> 02:24:54,880
Speaker 2: first introduced and we are all like, what is this?

2639
02:24:55,360 --> 02:24:59,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, why Twitter? What does that even mean? Twitter?

2640
02:24:59,640 --> 02:25:03,440
Speaker 8: Yeah? Tweet, tweet? So what are we doing now? X scene?

2641
02:25:03,840 --> 02:25:07,560
Speaker 2: Well X yeah, actually it is a little more nobody

2642
02:25:07,680 --> 02:25:08,759
Speaker 2: you're texting.

2643
02:25:08,400 --> 02:25:10,720
Speaker 6: With somebody just come off the mouth through it really

2644
02:25:10,760 --> 02:25:11,120
Speaker 6: does it.

2645
02:25:11,160 --> 02:25:13,520
Speaker 2: Twitter didn't even make sense to me from the beginning.

2646
02:25:13,520 --> 02:25:14,520
Speaker 2: It's like, what is that?

2647
02:25:14,680 --> 02:25:15,080
Speaker 4: Twitter?

2648
02:25:15,360 --> 02:25:17,200
Speaker 8: But it rolls off better than X.

2649
02:25:17,280 --> 02:25:19,200
Speaker 9: Like if I say, oh, I'm on X, You're like,

2650
02:25:19,240 --> 02:25:26,039
Speaker 9: what is that? I'm going to I'm on ecstasy exactly exactly.

2651
02:25:26,240 --> 02:25:28,160
Speaker 4: I guess that is a good point when you tell people.

2652
02:25:28,200 --> 02:25:30,560
Speaker 4: If you tell people you're on X, they're going to

2653
02:25:30,640 --> 02:25:31,080
Speaker 4: look at.

2654
02:25:31,959 --> 02:25:35,080
Speaker 9: Right at least Twitter and the tweeting, you know, like,

2655
02:25:35,320 --> 02:25:36,600
Speaker 9: now again, what are we exing?

2656
02:25:36,800 --> 02:25:38,280
Speaker 8: Is this? Is this a new term? Or are we

2657
02:25:38,320 --> 02:25:39,600
Speaker 8: still tweeting on X?

2658
02:25:40,760 --> 02:25:44,680
Speaker 2: You're not tweeting on X.

2659
02:25:42,760 --> 02:25:46,800
Speaker 4: I would never tweet on X.

2660
02:25:46,879 --> 02:25:54,199
Speaker 9: I think exactly exactly all right. Some trades have happened

2661
02:25:54,200 --> 02:25:57,040
Speaker 9: ahead of the trade deadline in baseball, which is August first.

2662
02:25:57,240 --> 02:25:59,880
Speaker 9: The Cardinals are trading reliever Jordan Hicks to the Blue

2663
02:26:00,560 --> 02:26:03,720
Speaker 9: and left handed starter Jordan Montgomery, along with reliever Chris

2664
02:26:03,760 --> 02:26:07,360
Speaker 9: Stratton to the Rangers. This includes a lot of prospects

2665
02:26:07,400 --> 02:26:09,879
Speaker 9: in the trade. Speaking of the Cardinals, they snapped the

2666
02:26:09,879 --> 02:26:13,160
Speaker 9: Cub's eight game winning streak, blanking them out or blanking

2667
02:26:13,200 --> 02:26:14,039
Speaker 9: them three zero.

2668
02:26:14,280 --> 02:26:16,040
Speaker 8: The Braves outscored the Brewers a six.

2669
02:26:16,080 --> 02:26:18,040
Speaker 9: Milwaukee is now tied with the Reds in the NL

2670
02:26:18,120 --> 02:26:20,600
Speaker 9: Central for the top spot. The Reds are currently beating

2671
02:26:20,640 --> 02:26:23,240
Speaker 9: the Dodgers in LA three zero top of the second inning.

2672
02:26:23,440 --> 02:26:26,240
Speaker 9: But for the Braves, Matt Olsen five RBIs a three

2673
02:26:26,360 --> 02:26:28,320
Speaker 9: run home run and a two run home run. But

2674
02:26:28,400 --> 02:26:30,440
Speaker 9: it was Marcell Ozuna who tied the game for Atlanta

2675
02:26:30,480 --> 02:26:32,640
Speaker 9: with the solo shot in the six inning. The Angels

2676
02:26:32,640 --> 02:26:34,240
Speaker 9: held on to beat the Blue Jays three to two

2677
02:26:34,320 --> 02:26:36,920
Speaker 9: in ten innings, and the Mets top the Nationals five

2678
02:26:36,920 --> 02:26:39,840
Speaker 9: to two. The win goes to picture Justin Berlander, which

2679
02:26:39,879 --> 02:26:43,000
Speaker 9: is career win number two hundred and fifty.

2680
02:26:43,640 --> 02:26:44,880
Speaker 8: Two hundred and fifty.

2681
02:26:45,760 --> 02:26:48,160
Speaker 2: That's impressive. I don't know if.

2682
02:26:48,760 --> 02:26:50,920
Speaker 8: Thank you Jinx, you owe Mia Soda.

2683
02:26:52,160 --> 02:26:53,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're ever going to see a

2684
02:26:53,480 --> 02:26:57,720
Speaker 2: three hundred game winner again. Yeah, I mean, it's amazing

2685
02:26:57,720 --> 02:27:00,080
Speaker 2: when you think of the guys like Greg Maddox and

2686
02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:03,480
Speaker 2: and you know, Roger Clemens got over three fifty.

2687
02:27:03,920 --> 02:27:05,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a good hats.

2688
02:27:05,560 --> 02:27:08,440
Speaker 2: But I mean, we don't have twenty game winners very

2689
02:27:08,440 --> 02:27:09,279
Speaker 2: often anymore.

2690
02:27:09,360 --> 02:27:10,440
Speaker 4: So you're the math.

2691
02:27:10,560 --> 02:27:13,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, one game in extra innings. Right now, it's

2692
02:27:13,320 --> 02:27:15,680
Speaker 9: the Phillies and the Pirates. They are tied at four

2693
02:27:15,720 --> 02:27:18,160
Speaker 9: a piece. Phillies fans on Twitter a little bit ago

2694
02:27:18,160 --> 02:27:22,039
Speaker 9: were very upset because their pitcher there, pitcher Christopher Sanchez,

2695
02:27:22,440 --> 02:27:25,520
Speaker 9: he threw five no hit innings and then was pulled

2696
02:27:25,520 --> 02:27:28,040
Speaker 9: in the fifth inning after only seventy three pitches.

2697
02:27:28,080 --> 02:27:29,360
Speaker 2: What Dave Roberts managed.

2698
02:27:30,240 --> 02:27:32,880
Speaker 9: That's literally what the comments where people were not happy

2699
02:27:32,920 --> 02:27:35,000
Speaker 9: about it. The Pirates ended up tying the game and

2700
02:27:35,040 --> 02:27:37,200
Speaker 9: again still a tied game. In the bottom of the

2701
02:27:37,240 --> 02:27:40,000
Speaker 9: tenth inning in Pittsburgh, the Marlins have taken the lead

2702
02:27:40,000 --> 02:27:41,920
Speaker 9: over the Tigers. It's eight to six top of the

2703
02:27:42,000 --> 02:27:44,600
Speaker 9: ninth inning in Miami, Royals up on the Twins two

2704
02:27:44,640 --> 02:27:47,039
Speaker 9: to one, top of the ninth. Ray's still beating the

2705
02:27:47,080 --> 02:27:50,160
Speaker 9: Astros eight to two bottom of the eighth inning in Houston,

2706
02:27:50,400 --> 02:27:51,879
Speaker 9: and the Rockies up on the eight to.

2707
02:27:51,920 --> 02:27:53,840
Speaker 8: Two zero bottom of the six inning.

2708
02:27:53,879 --> 02:27:56,600
Speaker 9: Mariners have scored first against the Diamondbacks. This just got going.

2709
02:27:56,800 --> 02:27:59,360
Speaker 9: It is two zero bottom of the first inning and

2710
02:27:59,400 --> 02:28:02,320
Speaker 9: in the NAF earlier today, the Vikings and pasted rusher

2711
02:28:02,440 --> 02:28:04,640
Speaker 9: Daniil Hunter have agreed to terms on a one year

2712
02:28:04,680 --> 02:28:06,959
Speaker 9: deal that can be worth up to twenty million, but

2713
02:28:07,000 --> 02:28:10,600
Speaker 9: it's seventeen million guaranteed. The Pittsburgh Steelers signed veteran free

2714
02:28:10,600 --> 02:28:14,400
Speaker 9: agent linebacker Kuwan Alexander to a one year deal as well.

2715
02:28:14,879 --> 02:28:16,920
Speaker 8: Guys, it's been fun back to you.

2716
02:28:17,080 --> 02:28:21,760
Speaker 2: Hie mon see great job aske one always. By the way,

2717
02:28:22,000 --> 02:28:26,320
Speaker 2: were you surprised that Sony Michelle decided to retire five

2718
02:28:26,440 --> 02:28:27,880
Speaker 2: years into his NFL career?

2719
02:28:28,200 --> 02:28:35,080
Speaker 4: Not entirely, look, I mean for some running backs. I

2720
02:28:35,200 --> 02:28:39,840
Speaker 4: will say that the idea that the tread on the

2721
02:28:39,879 --> 02:28:42,680
Speaker 4: tire is starting to run thin in their fifth year

2722
02:28:42,680 --> 02:28:46,400
Speaker 4: in the league. I would agree that's untrue. But there

2723
02:28:46,400 --> 02:28:51,320
Speaker 4: are certain schools that are really relying on the run game.

2724
02:28:51,800 --> 02:28:54,039
Speaker 4: And the reason why they're running backs always seem to

2725
02:28:54,080 --> 02:28:57,640
Speaker 4: be first rounders is because they're really ready for the NFL,

2726
02:28:58,120 --> 02:29:01,119
Speaker 4: because they're tested in a lead league or I should

2727
02:29:01,160 --> 02:29:05,199
Speaker 4: say a conference like the SEC, like these Alabama running backs,

2728
02:29:05,240 --> 02:29:07,959
Speaker 4: like the Damien Harrises of the world, or you know,

2729
02:29:08,360 --> 02:29:12,160
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry's you know, and he might be a unicorn

2730
02:29:12,400 --> 02:29:15,200
Speaker 4: in terms of running back because of how strong he

2731
02:29:15,800 --> 02:29:19,039
Speaker 4: still is even though he just begin beginning to break

2732
02:29:19,080 --> 02:29:22,000
Speaker 4: down in his career. But you know, you look at

2733
02:29:22,120 --> 02:29:25,640
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb out of Georgia. He shared the backfield with

2734
02:29:25,879 --> 02:29:29,360
Speaker 4: Sony Michelle. Those guys had a lot of touches as

2735
02:29:29,400 --> 02:29:32,640
Speaker 4: college athletes. They come out and they come into the

2736
02:29:32,720 --> 02:29:35,880
Speaker 4: league and Sony Michelle, he had some good years with

2737
02:29:35,920 --> 02:29:39,520
Speaker 4: the Pats. He had that knee injury. I forget where

2738
02:29:39,520 --> 02:29:42,000
Speaker 4: he went next, It might have been Miami. He then

2739
02:29:42,160 --> 02:29:44,600
Speaker 4: was traded to the Rams. I know he ended up

2740
02:29:44,600 --> 02:29:49,080
Speaker 4: there in trade. I mean, this is the late twenties,

2741
02:29:49,200 --> 02:29:52,440
Speaker 4: the twenty eight to twenty nine, getting near thirty. That's

2742
02:29:52,480 --> 02:29:55,040
Speaker 4: the time where typically we see running backs hit a

2743
02:29:55,120 --> 02:29:58,080
Speaker 4: ledge and the other side of that ledge is a

2744
02:29:58,080 --> 02:30:02,800
Speaker 4: pretty steep decline. And so it makes sense to me

2745
02:30:02,959 --> 02:30:05,480
Speaker 4: that a guy feels like his career can be wrapped

2746
02:30:05,560 --> 02:30:08,800
Speaker 4: up after five years at that position, especially when he's

2747
02:30:08,800 --> 02:30:11,720
Speaker 4: coming from such a run dominant school like Georgia where

2748
02:30:11,760 --> 02:30:13,199
Speaker 4: they feature their running backs.

2749
02:30:13,520 --> 02:30:15,440
Speaker 2: I want to get back to his Shohea Tani for

2750
02:30:15,480 --> 02:30:18,800
Speaker 2: a moment here, because he is the man of the hour,

2751
02:30:18,879 --> 02:30:22,560
Speaker 2: let's face it. I mean he's he is on pace

2752
02:30:22,600 --> 02:30:26,160
Speaker 2: for a sixty home run season. Yeah, on top of

2753
02:30:26,200 --> 02:30:28,760
Speaker 2: the fact that he could win fifteen to twenty games

2754
02:30:28,800 --> 02:30:34,000
Speaker 2: as the starting pitcher. It's just beyond absurd. However, it

2755
02:30:34,080 --> 02:30:36,320
Speaker 2: was interesting the other day actually had a couple of

2756
02:30:36,360 --> 02:30:38,760
Speaker 2: games where he had to be taken out of games

2757
02:30:38,879 --> 02:30:40,640
Speaker 2: cramping in his cavs.

2758
02:30:40,959 --> 02:30:41,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2759
02:30:41,280 --> 02:30:44,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, somebody get this guy some Gator Ray, right.

2760
02:30:44,200 --> 02:30:48,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know the reason why why would

2761
02:30:48,560 --> 02:30:52,160
Speaker 2: a guy like he cramp up? Is he not getting

2762
02:30:52,240 --> 02:30:56,800
Speaker 2: enough fluids or or is the bigger question I guess

2763
02:30:56,879 --> 02:30:59,520
Speaker 2: is is he asking too much of himself.

2764
02:30:59,640 --> 02:31:01,720
Speaker 4: Well, look, there's there's certain.

2765
02:31:01,480 --> 02:31:03,800
Speaker 2: Because that can have a major effect down the road.

2766
02:31:03,879 --> 02:31:07,800
Speaker 2: Obbosolutely because as great a hitter as he is, I'm

2767
02:31:07,840 --> 02:31:11,000
Speaker 2: not paying fifty to sixty million dollars a year for a.

2768
02:31:11,040 --> 02:31:14,800
Speaker 4: DH Yeah, no, I get it. Look, there are certain players,

2769
02:31:15,240 --> 02:31:18,440
Speaker 4: certain athletes, certain people, frankly, who are more prone to

2770
02:31:18,520 --> 02:31:22,520
Speaker 4: cramping than others. At out the water or any of

2771
02:31:22,560 --> 02:31:26,240
Speaker 4: the fluid that you're drinking, you're also sweating out minerals,

2772
02:31:26,760 --> 02:31:30,720
Speaker 4: you know, electrolytes, the sodium, the potassium, the other trace

2773
02:31:30,800 --> 02:31:33,800
Speaker 4: minerals that you know you need to replenish. And there

2774
02:31:33,800 --> 02:31:40,720
Speaker 4: are certain people who either aren't replenishing those electrolytes with enough,

2775
02:31:40,959 --> 02:31:43,720
Speaker 4: you know, so as alt, your muscles spasm and they

2776
02:31:43,720 --> 02:31:46,320
Speaker 4: go into cramping, and you can even get some soft

2777
02:31:46,360 --> 02:31:49,000
Speaker 4: tissue injuries as a result of that because they dry

2778
02:31:49,040 --> 02:31:52,720
Speaker 4: out a little bit or or you know, I mean

2779
02:31:52,760 --> 02:31:55,880
Speaker 4: there are certain people who everybody's different, right, you know,

2780
02:31:56,480 --> 02:32:01,520
Speaker 4: my absorption rate of certain mineral may be different than yours,

2781
02:32:01,760 --> 02:32:06,240
Speaker 4: or you know, show Heyotani's may be different from Mike Trouts.

2782
02:32:06,320 --> 02:32:10,480
Speaker 4: You know, it's it all varies, and so athletes, especially

2783
02:32:10,520 --> 02:32:14,800
Speaker 4: people who are relying on their body as mightily in

2784
02:32:14,879 --> 02:32:18,080
Speaker 4: his sport, especially as show Aotani, because he's not only

2785
02:32:18,120 --> 02:32:22,320
Speaker 4: asking himself to be a proficient hitter but also an

2786
02:32:22,320 --> 02:32:26,000
Speaker 4: ace pitcher. Oh, by the way, you know, it doesn't

2787
02:32:26,040 --> 02:32:29,800
Speaker 4: surprise me that he's having some things, you know, some issue.

2788
02:32:29,840 --> 02:32:34,160
Speaker 4: There'd be callouses or cramping. I mean, he's over using

2789
02:32:34,200 --> 02:32:37,440
Speaker 4: his body. If you look across Major League Baseball. You

2790
02:32:37,520 --> 02:32:39,840
Speaker 4: were just talking about it, Steve, like, how many twenty

2791
02:32:39,879 --> 02:32:42,640
Speaker 4: win pitchers are there anymore? It's because so many of

2792
02:32:42,680 --> 02:32:46,600
Speaker 4: these pitchers are being preserved. Meanwhile, show Aotani is an

2793
02:32:46,640 --> 02:32:49,560
Speaker 4: everyday player, whether he's pitching or he's hitting.

2794
02:32:50,560 --> 02:32:52,760
Speaker 2: Remember how John I didn't bring this up with JP.

2795
02:32:52,879 --> 02:32:55,640
Speaker 2: I maybe next week on a time. Remember he was

2796
02:32:55,680 --> 02:32:58,800
Speaker 2: suggesting moving him to the bullpen. Yeah, And the more

2797
02:32:58,840 --> 02:33:02,959
Speaker 2: I kept thinking about him, like how could that possibly work?

2798
02:33:04,520 --> 02:33:08,000
Speaker 2: So if you're a DH, right and you're in the

2799
02:33:08,000 --> 02:33:10,480
Speaker 2: lineup as a DH, which are also a guy that

2800
02:33:10,480 --> 02:33:15,360
Speaker 2: could come out of the bullpen, you got to warm up. Yeah,

2801
02:33:15,520 --> 02:33:18,080
Speaker 2: So you're in the bullpen warming up and all of

2802
02:33:18,120 --> 02:33:23,000
Speaker 2: a sudden, now batting for the Angels designated hitter. It's like, dude,

2803
02:33:23,080 --> 02:33:24,400
Speaker 2: you got to get back to the plate.

2804
02:33:24,720 --> 02:33:26,199
Speaker 4: They're gonna have to make another show.

2805
02:33:26,240 --> 02:33:31,000
Speaker 2: Hey, Connie, right, Hey, I forgot to ask him about

2806
02:33:31,000 --> 02:33:34,800
Speaker 2: that today. I don't see how that works. I mean,

2807
02:33:34,840 --> 02:33:36,680
Speaker 2: the thing about being a starting pitcher is he can

2808
02:33:36,720 --> 02:33:39,720
Speaker 2: plan his schedule based around that one day every five

2809
02:33:39,800 --> 02:33:43,000
Speaker 2: days that he's a starting pitcher. But if you're in

2810
02:33:43,040 --> 02:33:46,760
Speaker 2: the bullpen, you're on call every day, and if they

2811
02:33:46,800 --> 02:33:48,960
Speaker 2: need you to warm up and your spot's coming up

2812
02:33:48,959 --> 02:33:51,400
Speaker 2: in the lineup, you're dhing. How does that work? It

2813
02:33:51,400 --> 02:33:55,119
Speaker 2: doesn't work anyway. On the other side, any thoughts on

2814
02:33:55,160 --> 02:33:58,080
Speaker 2: what's going to happen this week? It's trade deadline week

2815
02:33:58,080 --> 02:34:01,600
Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball and just what does it mean

2816
02:34:01,879 --> 02:34:05,320
Speaker 2: for the Hall of Fame game, the actual start of

2817
02:34:05,480 --> 02:34:09,480
Speaker 2: players on the field competing in the NFL. We'll break

2818
02:34:09,480 --> 02:34:12,800
Speaker 2: it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Righty deals one

2819
02:34:12,840 --> 02:34:15,280
Speaker 2: one on the way in a bullet to Deep Brightfield

2820
02:34:15,560 --> 02:34:18,640
Speaker 2: back there towards the bullpen. You didn't think he won.

2821
02:34:18,959 --> 02:34:23,120
Speaker 2: He just did hud to run homer and he puts

2822
02:34:23,120 --> 02:34:26,560
Speaker 2: the Braves on top again. It's eight to six in

2823
02:34:26,640 --> 02:34:30,640
Speaker 2: the eighth at six't eighty the Fan Braves Radio Network

2824
02:34:30,720 --> 02:34:34,720
Speaker 2: Braves continue to lap the field best record in all

2825
02:34:34,800 --> 02:34:37,520
Speaker 2: of Major League Baseball. A couple home runs today from

2826
02:34:37,520 --> 02:34:40,199
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Speaker 2: Steve Harpinrich Ormberger Fox Sports Sunday, we are live from

2832
02:34:57,680 --> 02:35:03,200
Speaker 2: the Tirak dot com studio. An extra thanks to everyone

2833
02:35:03,200 --> 02:35:07,080
Speaker 2: else on the show today. As Rich was frantically trying

2834
02:35:07,080 --> 02:35:08,760
Speaker 2: to figure out a way to get hooked up.

2835
02:35:11,800 --> 02:35:14,400
Speaker 8: You guys, it worked.

2836
02:35:14,879 --> 02:35:17,840
Speaker 4: I mean, if there's one thing that I know is

2837
02:35:18,000 --> 02:35:21,760
Speaker 4: this team pulls for each other. Oh yeah, and it worked, guys.

2838
02:35:22,680 --> 02:35:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's Sam. I will always call it Twitter, always

2839
02:35:27,640 --> 02:35:28,640
Speaker 2: always call it Twitter.

2840
02:35:28,680 --> 02:35:29,000
Speaker 4: It's guy.

2841
02:35:29,080 --> 02:35:31,040
Speaker 6: We could get Rich today, get him on the show.

2842
02:35:31,240 --> 02:35:35,480
Speaker 2: There's months and if.

2843
02:35:35,840 --> 02:35:38,600
Speaker 8: He's Daniel tweeting on X over here today.

2844
02:35:39,440 --> 02:35:42,959
Speaker 2: And then our brilliant producer Bunny who he is a

2845
02:35:43,160 --> 02:35:46,280
Speaker 2: very busy guy. It's a little underrated. I look up

2846
02:35:46,520 --> 02:35:49,560
Speaker 2: and a lot of times producers will be sitting bo

2847
02:35:49,720 --> 02:35:53,120
Speaker 2: bounces around. He's going back and forth. He's doing a

2848
02:35:53,200 --> 02:35:55,800
Speaker 2: variety of things, working on a variety of projects. But

2849
02:35:56,400 --> 02:35:58,879
Speaker 2: bottom line is he is our Nathaniel Hackett.

2850
02:35:58,920 --> 02:35:59,240
Speaker 10: That's right.

2851
02:35:59,240 --> 02:36:00,440
Speaker 2: He's the guy to get it done.

2852
02:36:00,640 --> 02:36:01,680
Speaker 6: But he can hack it.

2853
02:36:01,959 --> 02:36:05,640
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, not like Noell. Hang on, he's like Green

2854
02:36:05,720 --> 02:36:07,720
Speaker 4: Bay Hacket, not Denver Hacket.

2855
02:36:07,800 --> 02:36:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, or Jets hack it.

2856
02:36:10,560 --> 02:36:13,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well with soon to find out what that looks like.

2857
02:36:13,440 --> 02:36:17,480
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, So Major League Baseball trade deadline is

2858
02:36:17,720 --> 02:36:23,280
Speaker 2: officially Tuesday, Yeah, August first, August first, so Tuesday, and

2859
02:36:23,320 --> 02:36:25,040
Speaker 2: it seems like one on the We're on the West

2860
02:36:25,120 --> 02:36:28,760
Speaker 2: coast obviously, so it's like, you know, we've had countdowns

2861
02:36:28,800 --> 02:36:30,920
Speaker 2: like on shows, like you know, like this is the

2862
02:36:31,000 --> 02:36:35,640
Speaker 2: absolute countdown of when a deal gets done. Uh so, Rich,

2863
02:36:35,720 --> 02:36:38,360
Speaker 2: you do a morning show down in the San Diego area,

2864
02:36:39,000 --> 02:36:40,440
Speaker 2: So that's gonna be a busy day for you.

2865
02:36:41,120 --> 02:36:44,000
Speaker 4: Oh, no question about it. I mean, you know, assuming

2866
02:36:44,560 --> 02:36:48,400
Speaker 4: the deals go right up until the deadline, you know,

2867
02:36:48,840 --> 02:36:52,280
Speaker 4: I mean Aj Prelller, general manager for the Padres, typically

2868
02:36:52,320 --> 02:36:57,360
Speaker 4: a busy guy there. See what happens. Padres are at

2869
02:36:57,440 --> 02:37:03,120
Speaker 4: least in certain and are MLB circles figuring to be buyers.

2870
02:37:03,520 --> 02:37:06,240
Speaker 2: We'll see yeah, well, right now five and a half

2871
02:37:06,280 --> 02:37:08,680
Speaker 2: games out of the wild card, so they're going to

2872
02:37:08,760 --> 02:37:12,280
Speaker 2: have to do something. And then, of course, coming Thursday,

2873
02:37:13,400 --> 02:37:17,760
Speaker 2: our first preseason game, it's the Hall of Fame Game.

2874
02:37:18,800 --> 02:37:22,960
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame Game. By the way, speaking of Hall

2875
02:37:23,000 --> 02:37:25,000
Speaker 2: of Fame, you know I can't go through a show

2876
02:37:25,040 --> 02:37:28,600
Speaker 2: without mentioning the Hall of Fame. Yeah, of course this year,

2877
02:37:29,320 --> 02:37:31,959
Speaker 2: and they haven't announced the preliminary ballot. They have the

2878
02:37:32,120 --> 02:37:36,360
Speaker 2: Seniors category, Contributors category. They're going through that process. They'll

2879
02:37:36,360 --> 02:37:38,880
Speaker 2: be announcing the candidates out of that category in the

2880
02:37:38,959 --> 02:37:42,240
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. And then we get to the other guys.

2881
02:37:43,480 --> 02:37:47,560
Speaker 2: And one guy that's going to be first ballot eligible, well,

2882
02:37:47,560 --> 02:37:51,039
Speaker 2: there's two guys. One is Julius Peppers. I don't think

2883
02:37:51,080 --> 02:37:53,720
Speaker 2: there's any question that Julius Peppers will be a first

2884
02:37:53,720 --> 02:37:57,320
Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Famer. You played against Julius Peppers.

2885
02:37:57,040 --> 02:37:59,880
Speaker 4: Did you not. Julius Peppers was a man.

2886
02:38:00,200 --> 02:38:03,160
Speaker 2: That guy is gigantic. I actually met him when he

2887
02:38:03,200 --> 02:38:05,400
Speaker 2: came out of college because he played some basketball as

2888
02:38:05,400 --> 02:38:10,200
Speaker 2: well at North Carolina Giant Head. Like, the guy's one

2889
02:38:10,200 --> 02:38:12,240
Speaker 2: of those like it was an Ogden guys.

2890
02:38:12,280 --> 02:38:15,200
Speaker 4: It was like it was like being in on the

2891
02:38:15,200 --> 02:38:19,200
Speaker 4: field with an extra terrestrial. It literally it looked like

2892
02:38:19,240 --> 02:38:22,480
Speaker 4: he he put on a football player's costume when he

2893
02:38:23,240 --> 02:38:24,000
Speaker 4: put on his UNI.

2894
02:38:24,120 --> 02:38:26,320
Speaker 2: I mean he is a legit six ' seven.

2895
02:38:26,640 --> 02:38:29,360
Speaker 4: He's a freak freak, freak of a freak, and I

2896
02:38:29,400 --> 02:38:30,840
Speaker 4: mean that the best way possible.

2897
02:38:30,959 --> 02:38:33,560
Speaker 2: But the other first ballot guy, and I'm asking you,

2898
02:38:33,560 --> 02:38:36,560
Speaker 2: do you believe he is worthy as a teammate of yours?

2899
02:38:37,240 --> 02:38:40,240
Speaker 2: Antonio Gates, who, by the way, still holds the NFL

2900
02:38:40,280 --> 02:38:43,080
Speaker 2: record for most touchdowns scored by a tight end. It's

2901
02:38:43,160 --> 02:38:47,320
Speaker 2: not Tony Gonzalez, it's not Sharp, It's none of those guys.

2902
02:38:47,360 --> 02:38:50,480
Speaker 2: Antonio Gates scored more touchdowns than any tight end in

2903
02:38:50,720 --> 02:38:51,840
Speaker 2: NFL history.

2904
02:38:52,080 --> 02:38:56,760
Speaker 4: Again, I'll go back to a statement that you once

2905
02:38:56,840 --> 02:39:00,280
Speaker 4: said that makes ultimately the most sense to me in

2906
02:39:00,400 --> 02:39:04,920
Speaker 4: terms of these speculative and highly subjective halls of fame.

2907
02:39:04,959 --> 02:39:08,600
Speaker 4: But I'll bite. If you can't write the history of

2908
02:39:08,640 --> 02:39:11,640
Speaker 4: the game without this man's name, then he belongs in

2909
02:39:11,680 --> 02:39:14,480
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame. You cannot write the history of

2910
02:39:14,520 --> 02:39:18,320
Speaker 4: the tight end position without mentioning Antonio Gates his name.

2911
02:39:18,640 --> 02:39:19,760
Speaker 4: He should be in the Hall of.

2912
02:39:19,680 --> 02:39:22,320
Speaker 2: Fame, and his backstory is amazing because he did not

2913
02:39:22,400 --> 02:39:24,720
Speaker 2: play one down of college football.

2914
02:39:24,840 --> 02:39:27,839
Speaker 4: No, he played. He played hoops in college.

2915
02:39:27,400 --> 02:39:30,359
Speaker 2: At Kent State. He was a basketball player. Never played

2916
02:39:30,400 --> 02:39:33,560
Speaker 2: a single play of college football.

2917
02:39:33,760 --> 02:39:38,199
Speaker 4: That's right. I mean, that's still not a bad football

2918
02:39:37,920 --> 02:39:39,480
Speaker 4: there as.

2919
02:39:39,280 --> 02:39:43,119
Speaker 2: A free wasn't drafted, just a free agent, and they said,

2920
02:39:43,480 --> 02:39:45,160
Speaker 2: let's see if this guy can actually play.

2921
02:39:45,480 --> 02:39:46,280
Speaker 4: Let's give it a shot.

2922
02:39:46,360 --> 02:39:48,160
Speaker 2: Let's give it a shot. And it's all worked out.

2923
02:39:48,160 --> 02:39:48,440
Speaker 4: All right.

2924
02:39:48,480 --> 02:39:50,119
Speaker 2: Well, Richie, when are you coming back?

2925
02:39:50,920 --> 02:39:53,000
Speaker 4: I will be back in town wednesday.

2926
02:39:53,200 --> 02:39:57,400
Speaker 2: All right, we will talk then. Lots to get done.

2927
02:39:57,600 --> 02:39:59,840
Speaker 2: Keep it right here. This is Fox Sports Radio.