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Speaker 1: to talk about a mystery. Yeah, it's super creepy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this mystery was suggested by somebody named Krista a very
Speaker 1: long time ago. Thanks Christa. Basically, we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about the story of some missing hippies. Yeah, because everybody
Speaker 1: loves when the hippies are missing. We've been happy that
Speaker 1: they've been missing for decades. But just a quick brief
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Speaker 1: episode explicit because we're going to read some journal entries
Speaker 1: and it has some foul language and I know a
Speaker 1: lot of you have been waiting to hear us swear
Speaker 1: a lot, so congratulations. But if you have little ears
Speaker 1: and you don't want them exposed to that kind of language,
Speaker 1: just you know. We're going to start with the story.
Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy, okay. Unnamed date of August nineteen seventy one,
Speaker 1: a group of what is always described as hippies decided
Speaker 1: to set up camp at Stonehenge. Yes, this story involves Stonehenge. Wait,
Speaker 1: I can ask which Stonehenge it is. Is it the
Speaker 1: big one or is it a little one from Spinal Tap,
Speaker 1: the one that was in danger of being crushed by dwarves?
Speaker 1: The big one. It's also not the one that we
Speaker 1: have up here in Washington. Well, that's not the real
Speaker 1: thing Stonehenge. It's not very good replica. Frankly, it's not anyway. Sorry,
Speaker 1: let's get totally off topic already. It's fine. Listen. Every
Speaker 1: story is okay to be diverted towards Spinal Tap for
Speaker 1: a moment. I agree. I personally think that's fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was before the monument was protected from the public.
Speaker 1: It used to be open to the public. But you
Speaker 1: may or may not know, believe it or not, People
Speaker 1: just walk up camp. Yeah, take a crap do whatever
Speaker 1: they want to ship. It's probably why it's in the
Speaker 1: state that it is. Probably also, or as Joe always
Speaker 1: kind of makes joke at or made note of in
Speaker 1: every single spot he possibly could have in my script,
Speaker 1: that maybe this was just when the public was not
Speaker 1: yet protected from Stonehenge dangerous place. Those big stones could
Speaker 1: have fallen on anybody at any time. That is an
Speaker 1: insurance has well, there's a lot of mystical force that's
Speaker 1: kind of focused in Stonehenge too well, so actually that
Speaker 1: that plays into our story. The reason that this group
Speaker 1: of hippies quote unquote was going to Stonehenge is because
Speaker 1: they wanted to have a really big party. And you know,
Speaker 1: Stonehenge is kind of or what at least was kind
Speaker 1: of out there. But they also wanted to well it's
Speaker 1: in between two highways, so it's pretty, but it was
Speaker 1: more out there. They also wanted to absorb the spiritual
Speaker 1: vibrations that surround this mystical monuments. A lot of that
Speaker 1: stuff going on there. They arrived at about eight p m.
Speaker 1: And they pitched their tents and got to partying right on. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was just say, wait, how do we know all
Speaker 1: these details? Where does it where? Does this this record
Speaker 1: come from officially, just based on what I know is
Speaker 1: going to come in later in the start a forensic
Speaker 1: examination of the site. Okay. Now, actually there are some
Speaker 1: journal entries and on sent letters that existed at the site. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that's how they know that may decide they were
Speaker 1: found very close by, though there's no real times mentioned
Speaker 1: in the letters and journal entries. But just maybe don't
Speaker 1: ask that question at all, Okay, I'll just let's just
Speaker 1: my head and continue, let's get buying. Well it might
Speaker 1: it might be too that they everybody just assumed they
Speaker 1: were hippies and they were going to party and do
Speaker 1: drugs and have one X, you know. But yeah, well
Speaker 1: I just all I will say is that I'm asking
Speaker 1: for a certain level of suspension of disbelief for Okay,
Speaker 1: belief suspended. Great. So with that belief suspended, about a
Speaker 1: p M. The group pitched their tent no disbelief, a
Speaker 1: suspension of dispose. Around one fifty am, the partying was
Speaker 1: still going on, but then at about two a sudden
Speaker 1: flash of lightning rains down and a storm just let's loose. Yeah,
Speaker 1: apparently on that you know that it rolls in kind
Speaker 1: of quick there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's out on the well,
Speaker 1: I mean, Britain's in Ireland and storms blowing off the
Speaker 1: ocean all the time, and they're actually pretty quick. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: The group, seemingly relatively undeterred by the storm, decides to
Speaker 1: take the party to their tents. The storm is reported
Speaker 1: to have been a pretty strong lightning storm. So there's
Speaker 1: just lightning striking every you know, the rocks around them,
Speaker 1: on the ground everywhere. Yeah, it's like Thor is just
Speaker 1: really mad and throwing lots of stuff at them. I've
Speaker 1: always presumed that was when Thor was drunk and just
Speaker 1: dropping the hammer because you're so hammered. Yeah, that's that's why. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well was it a Fantasia one episode part where one
Speaker 1: of the gods had like all the lightning and it
Speaker 1: was just dropping from behind him. Since i've seen it, anyways,
Speaker 1: that's what I think was happening. He just dropped the
Speaker 1: armful of lightning. Reports are that eventually the whole area
Speaker 1: was bathed in uh eerie kind of blue light, perhaps
Speaker 1: from the lightning, perhaps from something else. This report comes
Speaker 1: from a police officer who happened to be on patrol
Speaker 1: at two o'clock in the morning suspension of disbelief, and
Speaker 1: it's corroborated by a farmer who was for some reason
Speaker 1: out at two o'clock in the market, the midnight mushroom
Speaker 1: suspension of disbelief. Both men said that the light was
Speaker 1: so blinding that they had to avert their eyes. The
Speaker 1: blue light was eventually accompanied by quote unquote a blood
Speaker 1: curdling scream or many blood curdling screams. Both men reacted
Speaker 1: to this whole thing by thinking, Oh, I'll just run
Speaker 1: towards that blue light were from. I can if I
Speaker 1: was standing there, and I would say to the cup, well,
Speaker 1: I ain't going over there. I don't know how what
Speaker 1: they how they were in relation to each other, A
Speaker 1: couple of miles or you know, they must have been
Speaker 1: like a couple of no, I mean to each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where they're standing next to each other. YEA, no idea
Speaker 1: about that, but yeah, maybe maybe they went running towards
Speaker 1: the tents to see if people needed help. They both arrived, though,
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't really know how long it
Speaker 1: took either of them to arrive. If they arrived at
Speaker 1: the same time, totally different times possible, but they discovered
Speaker 1: either together or apart or whatever, that the tents had
Speaker 1: been totally obliterated and the group was entirely gone. The
Speaker 1: men investigated and did discover that some journals and notes
Speaker 1: had been left behind, scattered kind of around the space,
Speaker 1: immediately held down by rocks, I guess, or you know,
Speaker 1: stuck on rocks or whatever. And though the tents and
Speaker 1: all the other belongings had been obliterated, for some reason,
Speaker 1: these journals survived. The only thing that was left in
Speaker 1: the tents were the tent pegs. Smoldering tents. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were there, kind of like, you know, burnt, but yeah,
Speaker 1: there were some tent pegs left. The first journal entry
Speaker 1: was dated July tenth, nineteen one, and basically it was
Speaker 1: just talking about how a couple of the men of
Speaker 1: the group it was one of hippies, was one of
Speaker 1: the guys male missing hippies. One of them, Um, it
Speaker 1: was his journal. That would be the mm H, missing
Speaker 1: male hippie. Yes, but yeah kind of yeah. Anyway, the
Speaker 1: first general entry talks about how the guys went out
Speaker 1: and basically just decided that they thought it would be
Speaker 1: fun to go camp at the Big Rock Place in England,
Speaker 1: which was Stumbhenge. I Like, I don't even know the
Speaker 1: name of it. That's how dumb those hippies were. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they decided that they would invite their girlfriends and then
Speaker 1: m f H and then maybe some of their other friends,
Speaker 1: but they weren't sure if the law enforcement would be
Speaker 1: too close. The man man basically. The next one was
Speaker 1: dated July eleven of the same year. They basically just
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, talking to people about wanting to
Speaker 1: take this trip. It sounds like they were kind of
Speaker 1: on the American side of the pond here. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: talked about crossing the pond. Yeah, that's they do. They
Speaker 1: This one just briefly mentioned that one of the girls,
Speaker 1: whose name is Wilma, said that she didn't really want
Speaker 1: to go because she had had a dream of a
Speaker 1: circle of rocks and God's hand striking or something like that,
Speaker 1: so she didn't really want to go. And I think
Speaker 1: this is the reason that this is often presented is
Speaker 1: to kind of set up that Wilma was reportedly maybe
Speaker 1: a little psychic about this whole thing. Well, Wilma's been
Speaker 1: drinking a lot since Fred had died, though, because they
Speaker 1: were they were not trusting her spiritual or psychic abilities
Speaker 1: quite so much. Next entry is August seventeen, which I
Speaker 1: believe is the day before the incident happened. I believe
Speaker 1: the incident happened on August eighteen, though it's never actually
Speaker 1: explicitly dated that it was August eighteen, but just for
Speaker 1: the dates of the journal entrees and letters and things
Speaker 1: like that, they are apparently out at somebody's farm doing
Speaker 1: something in England, and it sounds like Wilma still not
Speaker 1: really into the idea of going to Stonehenge, and come
Speaker 1: to think of it, it's possible that the farmer that
Speaker 1: was out was the guy whose farm they were working
Speaker 1: on the day before that was Mr Jacobson, So I
Speaker 1: guess it's possible. I don't really know. I don't really
Speaker 1: know anything about this. They talked about working at Jacobson's farm,
Speaker 1: they did, yeah, so it's possible that he heard the
Speaker 1: lightning and knew they were going to be out there
Speaker 1: and came out at two o'clock in the morning, and
Speaker 1: that's why he was out there. I don't really know anyway.
Speaker 1: The next journal entry was the final journal entry, and
Speaker 1: it was on August eighteen, basically just kind of talking
Speaker 1: about setting up camp, although it doesn't I don't know why.
Speaker 1: If you were partying and all that stuff, you would
Speaker 1: really uh be writing journals. But we've all been camping, though,
Speaker 1: and there's a time when you get your camp set
Speaker 1: up and your friends are still thinking around to get
Speaker 1: their set up, and you've got time on your hands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so you'll sit I've done. I think we've all
Speaker 1: been set and said, well, I'll just read for a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes or something. But if you are a
Speaker 1: journal or you'd sit down and write in your journal,
Speaker 1: I only this passage would have taken about five or
Speaker 1: ten minutes to write. Even though this ding dong apparently
Speaker 1: his hand cramps up after so little right now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he does say, might as well, Julius, Julia is calling
Speaker 1: me to help, might as well because I'm getting to
Speaker 1: just get it's getting bored just writing. My hands cramping up. Well,
Speaker 1: then there's three letters, and will I guess go ahead
Speaker 1: and read these three letters. By the way, I do
Speaker 1: want to just mention that the the I mean, we've
Speaker 1: summarized this, but there's a lot of talk of pot
Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk of getting it on, you know,
Speaker 1: typical hippie vernacular stuff that is in here. So it
Speaker 1: very it's fits. It's very stiff stereotypical, is what I
Speaker 1: want to say, supposed journal entries. Yeah, I will. I'll
Speaker 1: read the first letter and then you guys can each
Speaker 1: paper rock scissors over who wants to be Wilma. The
Speaker 1: first letters from Julia, who was you know, the one
Speaker 1: who was calling the journal or says quote, the guys
Speaker 1: brought pot Can you believe that? I thought we'd just
Speaker 1: take a trip down to see the place and have
Speaker 1: a nice camping trip, but no, they had to go
Speaker 1: bring that stinky ass grass ship here. Men just don't
Speaker 1: know the first thing about manners. This chick calls yourself
Speaker 1: a hippie. Yeah, really, well she doesn't. Everybody else calls
Speaker 1: them a group of hippies. Listen, there's always group of
Speaker 1: hippies that has one square among them. Always happens. So sorry,
Speaker 1: I should have mentioned. All three of these letters are
Speaker 1: dated August, even the same day. There are certainly a
Speaker 1: letter writing busch, weren't they. I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1: Convenient for a story. Yeah, and I don't know who
Speaker 1: these letters were being written to or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but there you go. So the next one was from
Speaker 1: a guy named Lucas, and you guys can just do Lucas.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Lucas, you want to be
Speaker 1: will I don't care, all right, I'll be I'll be Lucas.
Speaker 1: That's fine, Daniel and okay. So August nine, seventy one
Speaker 1: from Lucas, Daniel and I are smoking it up. It's
Speaker 1: times like this when us five are together, away from
Speaker 1: our families in the city. That's smoking relaxes you the
Speaker 1: most and makes you think maybe I'll quit my job
Speaker 1: at the auto shop. When I get back. Julia is fuming,
Speaker 1: smoke out of her ears that we brought the stuff,
Speaker 1: but I don't mind. Almost every time she comes around,
Speaker 1: she takes a drag, makes her loose, if you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Wilma huddles in front of the tent,
Speaker 1: growing nervouser by the minute. She's swearing something bad's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: that we're gonna die, or some other dark ship. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't believe her lately, but she ain't been drinking for
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. If she don't brighten up soon,
Speaker 1: I swear I'll push her out myself. Push her at
Speaker 1: one with that. I don't know, ye, I don't even
Speaker 1: know what push her out me, Probably maybe push her
Speaker 1: out in front of a train or a truck that
Speaker 1: I like to well. Wellness, yeah, wellness, the psychic one.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it my Wilma voice. Right, it's raining.
Speaker 1: I knew they'd be rain. Okay, Actually, please continue to
Speaker 1: use your voice. There's always rain when the blue glow comes.
Speaker 1: The blue glow comes for me every night, but only
Speaker 1: when I'm not drunk. They took my paw straight into
Speaker 1: the sky like nothing. He told me about them before that,
Speaker 1: that they don't come after you if you're too drunk
Speaker 1: to see your own hands. Okay, so that's why she
Speaker 1: was drinking this past few weeks. I haven't been drinking,
Speaker 1: and I've been having my future dreams again, but they
Speaker 1: haven't come for me yet, not since the others started
Speaker 1: talking about coming to Stone Hedge. She very scared of
Speaker 1: the lightning, always has been. But that's not what you
Speaker 1: should be scared about. I think the lightning is closed
Speaker 1: the tree and the rocks too. I think the rocks
Speaker 1: are there's the things rocks. They're glowing brighter than the lightning.
Speaker 1: If someone find it's this out to this guy for
Speaker 1: sack and placed down and the rest and this is
Speaker 1: all allows eligible after that, presumably because of the blinding
Speaker 1: light or something. So she was writing her last final
Speaker 1: letter in the middle of the lightning under a lightning Well,
Speaker 1: then we should have been We really missed an opportunity, devon.
Speaker 1: We could have been in the background going some four
Speaker 1: lot and make thunder noises. You're right, we should have been.
Speaker 1: Right anyway, we're planning our parts. Sorry it is sorry everyone,
Speaker 1: that's for this last letter again. You know, I think
Speaker 1: it's meant to be have been composed during the storm,
Speaker 1: but I'm again I'm not totally sure. That's an odd
Speaker 1: thing to do in the middle of a lightning storm.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Yeah, Yeah, that's our story, thank god.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they So they all disappeared, and they left
Speaker 1: some letters in journal entries behind, but that's it. No trace.
Speaker 1: I guess we've got some names, um, but other than that,
Speaker 1: I don't know they were where they're from. That's true.
Speaker 1: So you guys to talk about theories about what this
Speaker 1: could have been, let's do it. Let's talk about a
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Speaker 1: talk about some hippies. So the first area would clearly
Speaker 1: be aliens. This was an alien abduction human harvesting. She
Speaker 1: even wrote in her letter about the things that come
Speaker 1: down from the sky took her dad and stuff. I know,
Speaker 1: I think they just took him. I think they probed him.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, but all we know is they took
Speaker 1: they took him, they took his dignity, they took him away,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't really matter. Took him straight into the
Speaker 1: sky like nothing. And you know, they're camping at Stonehenge,
Speaker 1: which is pretty much always referred to as kind of
Speaker 1: an alien ancient alien technology spot. They can see it
Speaker 1: from the from the from more of it the landing
Speaker 1: doctor anyway, So that would be our first theory. I
Speaker 1: think it's a pretty good one, blue Light. But you
Speaker 1: guys don't like the theory ones. I mean, it makes
Speaker 1: of all of the stuff that we have except for one.
Speaker 1: It makes the most sense, fair enough, It actually does,
Speaker 1: because let's be honest, for me to triangle is goofy,
Speaker 1: well the Stonehenge to triangle, yeah, not a triangle for
Speaker 1: me to call THEE and the I mean that is
Speaker 1: the next theory, but we don't really need to talk.
Speaker 1: Think we know. Yeah, uh next one, Joe added, I think, well,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, spontaneous human combustion yeah, or spontaneous tent combustion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that too. Spontaneous all this stuff combusting journals, Yeah, well
Speaker 1: those probably got blown away by the wind before they
Speaker 1: got you know, you know, well that's yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: Uh so this one is like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, actually, usually spontaneous human combustion, which apparently does
Speaker 1: seem to happen occasionally, it's not exactly spontaneous. Usually there's
Speaker 1: a spark of something that lights you on fire. But
Speaker 1: if you're a certain level of fatness. Apparently you'll burn
Speaker 1: like a candle. So it does happen. But I don't
Speaker 1: know if these guys were you know, they're hippies. They
Speaker 1: were scrowning, probably probably undernerished, Yeah, probably probably not good
Speaker 1: candidates for spontaneous human combustion. Could have been a murder.
Speaker 1: It could have been actually a murder of body wirling
Speaker 1: screams and the bodies were taken away and the tents
Speaker 1: set on fire. What if they're murdered by the cliche
Speaker 1: that was their existence? Uh? Well, you know that it
Speaker 1: could be that there was somebody there's somebody out there
Speaker 1: kind of fancies himself the guardian of stone Age and
Speaker 1: felt that these guys were disrespecting the sacred spot. That's true,
Speaker 1: men in long robes with voluminous with big hoods on
Speaker 1: I can't say that. Yeah, yeah, okay, And we have
Speaker 1: one more theory. But before we talk about that theory,
Speaker 1: do you guys have any other theories? Well, somebody here
Speaker 1: wrote that there was the farmer was actually a former
Speaker 1: Nazi scientist. I don't know. That's kind of funny, But
Speaker 1: the Nazis did not actually have a death ray that
Speaker 1: you know, so it obviously could not have been harvesting Stonehenge.
Speaker 1: It could have been Tesla from the grave. It could
Speaker 1: have been Tesla, the space coope Tesla, or the scientist test,
Speaker 1: Scientist test with his death ray. Remember, yeah, I totally
Speaker 1: remember his death ray. Yea. Even that this is quite
Speaker 1: a while after World War Two, I could imagine the
Speaker 1: Nazi scientist who was working on it back in the
Speaker 1: third right days and managed to escape or be transported
Speaker 1: to the West after the war, and which happened to
Speaker 1: a lot of scientists, and he was just tinkering in
Speaker 1: his basement with his death ray over the years and
Speaker 1: eventually had a prototype built and decided, hey, there's some
Speaker 1: sticky old hippies. Nobody's going to miss Semifi vaporize him.
Speaker 1: So he went out and tested it. Um. So, if
Speaker 1: I have to summarize that theory right there, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: utter bullshit. I would say that's uh. I would say
Speaker 1: it's unsubstantiated bullshit. Yea perfectly plausible. Last theory is actually
Speaker 1: the truth. And I'm sorry, oh no, we solve the mystery.
Speaker 1: We are going to solve the mystery. It's actually that
Speaker 1: this is an urban legend and the basis of which
Speaker 1: is based on a TV show called qua quater Mass. Yeah, professor,
Speaker 1: a British professor named Quatermass. Yeah, this was like a
Speaker 1: lead into one of these was abduction people being harvested
Speaker 1: TV show thing. Yeah, I think at this particular point
Speaker 1: in time, I understanding. I never saw the show, but
Speaker 1: my understanding is at this time instead of setting in
Speaker 1: the near future, and all the hippies joined this cult
Speaker 1: and they call themselves planet People, and they gather at
Speaker 1: prehistoric sites hoping, hoping to be essentially abducted by aliens
Speaker 1: and transported to another better planet than our own. And
Speaker 1: so that's we are being abducted, and so in the
Speaker 1: food Yeah, well that's it. Spoilers seventy nine. I think
Speaker 1: it's thirty years later. Yeah, it's not too soon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've seen that happ and all that stuff. Um but yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: sorry everyone, everybody liked the story, but this is totally
Speaker 1: from the first episode of that series. What was when
Speaker 1: this happened? So yeah, but it's a fun little story,
Speaker 1: and it is it is reverberating around the internet. It's
Speaker 1: it's certainly cut and pasted in a lot of places.
Speaker 1: It's all copy pasted. Yeah, pretty much believe. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: except for the journal entries, I rarely found it anywhere
Speaker 1: that it was told in anything but the same four paragraphs. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that actually the Devin Harris has actually performed
Speaker 1: a valuable service for you all and and got it
Speaker 1: together every bit of information there is about this particular story.
Speaker 1: Generally when you see it, you don't see like you
Speaker 1: don't see quotations from the letters of the journal entries
Speaker 1: for example. Yeah, I mean maybe I'll post it on
Speaker 1: a Reddit or something like that. Yeah, yeah, put it
Speaker 1: out there. Well it, but yeah, I guess that's it. Sorry, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you, don't be sorry. You sel the mystery. So
Speaker 1: good detective work. Thank you. Yeah, good job. You know,
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Speaker 1: of that having been said, we will see you next
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Speaker 1: We've we've given the advisory. So is there any foul
Speaker 1: language that you quickly want to air? Heck, poop, darn, sorry,
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