1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: On this episode of News World. I first met today's 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: guests Molly Grace Young eleven years ago in twenty eleven, 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: when she was a professional chorister in the resident choir 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: of the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: Conception in Washington, DC. My wife, Chliss, and I attend 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: worship service there and Callistopher Years sang in the Basilica choir. 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: Molly is an exceptional soprano, having performed as the featured 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: soloist and international broadcast through the Eternal Word Television Network 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: in masses and concerts. Five years ago, Molly was diagnosed 10 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: with stage two breast cancer at the age of twenty nine. 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: She decided to face cancer the only way she knew how, 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: by entertaining people. She began lip syncing her favorite songs 13 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: on Facebook and YouTube while going through her treatments, and 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: her performances are truly amazing. Molly is a close personal 15 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: to both Clister and me, and I wanted to have 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: her on today to discuss her journey battling cancer and 17 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: the healthcare system in America. Molly, thank you for joining me, 18 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: and I just want to say that with everything you're 19 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: going through I'm really thrilled you would take the time 20 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: to share your story with our listeners, and Cloister of 21 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: Horse wanted me to say hi to you and how 22 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: proud she is of you. So let's start back at 23 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: sort of the beginning. When did you first know you 24 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: wanted to sing professionally? Well, very much back to the beginning. 25 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: I think it starts with my parents. They were actually 26 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: both singers who met at the University of Maryland as 27 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: voice majors. And actually, I'm not sure if you know this, 28 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: my father sang for the Shrine in nineteen seventy eight. 29 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm a second generation Shrine singer and only one season. 30 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: But I was talking with him and realized that was 31 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: a banger of a season for them because that was 32 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: the year of three popes. That was the year that 33 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: Paul the sixth died, and then it was John Paul 34 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: one and then John Paul two. And imagine the Shrine 35 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: schedule that fall, all the extra masses and things for that, 36 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: so a very busy season for them. But yeah, so 37 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: from a very early age, you know, music was part 38 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: of my family and my life, and I think it's 39 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: a weird thing. I don't actually have memories of learning 40 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: to read music the way that I do learning to read, 41 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, books. I have memories of being in church 42 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: and being able to fall along with the hymns but 43 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: not read the words. So I would kind of superimpose 44 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: my own and if you think of like taking you 45 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: know Jesus Christ has risen today, but using the words 46 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: of Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer instead, because I could 47 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: sing the tune but not read the words. Hopefully I 48 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: didn't do that lovely enough to bother anyone, but just 49 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: to say, my entire life, my childhood and certainly growing 50 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 1: up middle school, high school, through church, through school, through 51 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: the arts center in my hometown, lots of brewing, and 52 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: I think at the point where I had to make 53 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: choices about college and kind of a calling you a 54 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: livelihood that just made sense to me for sure. So 55 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: do I assume your parents encouraged you in music? Oh? Yes, 56 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: I first started piano with my mother. She was my 57 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: first voice teacher. I wouldn't say there was any pushing, 58 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: but encouragement is definitely a good word. We all took 59 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: music lessons, and that was something that was just kind 60 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: of very natural to all three of us. My brothers 61 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: and I. Yeah, that's well, so I was just sort 62 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: of part of the way the family was. Yes, to 63 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: the point that we actually have a Christmas album as 64 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: a family, which is on Spotify. It's called Come In 65 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: from the Cold, and it has originals and arrangements by 66 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: my brother Micah, and I sang soprano, my mom is 67 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: singing alto, and my other brother's tenor. My father's a baritone, 68 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: so we're a little choir. You know. In the time 69 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: I've known you, you've always been a happy and a 70 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: very positive person. Did that come out of your family? Absolutely? Yeah, 71 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: we're very close, and I think humor is a real, 72 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, core quality to our time together and how 73 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: we approach life. I definitely use humor as a coping 74 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: mechanism through these you know, kind of darker times with 75 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: cancer everything else. But yes, that's definitely been fostered for 76 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: me since childhood. So your default has been humor rather 77 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: than an anger. Yes, I think so. It's a little bit. 78 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: I think sometimes of the Ridiculous Charm from Harry Potter, 79 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: which has everything to do with taking something you're afraid 80 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: of and finding a way to laugh at it. I 81 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: think that's a very powerful thing to take ownership of 82 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: something that frightens you, and that's been my approach. Yeah. 83 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: So as you graduate from high school, you go on 84 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: to Western Michigan University very impressively, you graduate simon cum 85 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: laude or a Bachelor of Music degree and vocal performance. 86 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: Then you go to Johns Hopkins to the Peabody Institute, 87 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 1: which is one of the great vocal centers of America, 88 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: and get a Master of Music degree in vocal performance 89 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: in early music performance. Did you enjoy just kind of 90 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: studying and being immersed in music? Oh? Absolutely, I think 91 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, if it were feasible, I would have stayed 92 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: a student a lot longer. In some ways, I love 93 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: to learn. I'm a lifelong learner, and I think something 94 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: that does draw me to singing and then again to 95 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: teaching singing is it's never over. There's never a point 96 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: where I'm finished as a singer or as a teacher, 97 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: and I learn from every new student I meet, And 98 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, no matter what, if I became a perfect singer, 99 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: there's still new music being written, so it's never over. 100 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: I love that. I always tell people that you know 101 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: close to plays the piano and the French horn and 102 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: sang in the professional choir with you, and that my 103 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: job was audience, I'm a necessary part of your life. 104 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: And carrying her folder in her robe. I remember that, yeah, 105 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: on the bus, on the bus and on occasion carrying 106 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: her French horn, but not the piano. She's never asked 107 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: me to carry the piano, so I guess I should 108 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: be grateful for that. So I say this as somebody 109 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: who's only audience, but my sense was that singing for 110 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: Peter Latona, that Peter's background was in a way exquisite 111 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: for that particular choir, that he brought to a level 112 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: of talent and a standard which you certainly met of 113 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: just expecting excellence, expecting performances that every single Sunday are amazing. 114 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I think Peter has a great gift for 115 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: putting a good group together, and especially the blend. I 116 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: mean the years I spent in the Shrine Choir and 117 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: especially that soprano section, and we're all incredibly close just 118 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: personally as well. But the way that we have such 119 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: a variety of voices and gifts in that section who 120 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,119 Speaker 1: could do so many different things but also come together 121 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: and sound like one voice was just unique. It's truly incribable. 122 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: So you've also done an opera, you performed the title 123 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: role and all also done for his Gonzales Cantata in 124 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: the World premiere. Is doing a role like that different 125 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: than being part of a choir? Absolutely? Yeah. Anytime you're 126 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: singing as a soloist and certainly the context of I 127 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: guess a dramatic story on stage. It's a different technique 128 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: because in a choir, I'm constantly having to listen to 129 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: everyone around me in a different way and blend with 130 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: them and pay attention to all right, we have a 131 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: really long line to sing and who's going to breathe where? 132 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: So we can kind of stagger that and make it 133 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: see seamless. Getting on stage is very different. There's choreography 134 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: you're blocking and motion and a lot more storytelling in 135 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: a way, but I enjoy both. That's the variety of 136 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: I think the freelance type of careers you get to 137 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: have a lot of different hats. Let's say you have 138 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: a marvelous soprano voice, and it's always a joy to 139 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: listen to you. Now you've sung Mozart and Vivaldi, do 140 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: you have a particular favorite composer that you particularly love singing. Oh, 141 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: that's a great question. Well. One of the reasons that 142 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: I did stay at Peabody for a second masters was 143 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: to focus in early music, which is music written before 144 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: seventeen fifty, because that's something that I kind of grew 145 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: up with a little bit because that was my mother's 146 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: soprano voice. Also, she sang a lot of early music. 147 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: She sang with the Washington Bach Concert when it was 148 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: kind of brand new with Riley Lewis. And I think, 149 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: partially because of that bias of my upbringing, maybe I 150 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: gotta say Bach every time. He's my guy, I think, 151 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: and Bach, handle Vivaldi, those are all composers I really 152 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: love to sing, for sure. Well, and you were the 153 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: tatured soloist in the Baltimore concert series One Box, so 154 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: in that sense you've earned that closeness. Now. You also 155 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: and I remember this because I was there, but you 156 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: also sang four Pope Francis when he visited Washington in 157 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. I mean, what was that like to have 158 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: a papal visit? Oh my goodness, I have so many 159 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: strong memories of that day. It was truly a once 160 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: in a lifetime experience. I think the thing that resonates 161 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: with me the most was you know, anytime you have 162 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: someone that important right, it's a lot of hurry up 163 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: and wait. So we were kind of in place inside 164 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: the shrine for quite a while before we actually performed, 165 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: but the sense of knowing he was approaching because we 166 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: could hear even through this enormous building, in these very 167 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: very thick, you know, marble stone walls, we could hear 168 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: the roar of the crowd. It was probably one of 169 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: the closest experiences to being like in a rock concert 170 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: for me to sense this electric energy in the building. 171 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: Outside the building, I mean, there were crowds and crowds 172 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: just thronged outside the shrine. And one of our assistant 173 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: music directors, Ben Laprairie, had written this piece for us 174 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: to sing when the Pope was walking in, and we 175 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: all give him such a hard time and rehearsal because 176 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: we're like, Ben, you know these high notes, it's just 177 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: give us a break, man. But he was so right. 178 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: He was so on point because the energy of that 179 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: piece and the sopranos were like way way up there 180 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: and it felt like a real screamer to us. But 181 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: it was one of the most just I keep using 182 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: this word electric, but that's what I can think of 183 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: in that memory is we were singing at the real 184 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: extreme of all of our ranges, and it was just 185 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: so bold in that moment, and he's coming down the aisle, 186 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: and of course security is having to keep all of 187 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: the nuns from like rushing him. It was a mad house. 188 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: It was wild, but so so special to be a 189 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: part of that moment in history. It meant a great 190 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: deal to Couestion. Of course she went on to become 191 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: the ambassador to the Vatican and to interact with the 192 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: Pope at a diplomatic level, but I think it's always 193 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: something that she will treasure being with you for that. 194 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: It was a great shock to all of us when, 195 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: at age twenty nine, you were diagnosed with stage two 196 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: breast cancer. How did you find out that you had it? Well, 197 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: this is a weird thing to say, but I do 198 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: say it a lot. I'm a very lucky cancer patient, 199 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: and I know those words don't always go together, but 200 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: one of the ways in which I find myself very 201 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: lucky is simply the positioning of my original tumor. One 202 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: of the reasons that young breast cancer patients sometimes it 203 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: doesn't get caught, they don't find it right away. Is 204 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: just that the tissue is so much denser, and that's 205 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: the reason they don't do routine mammograms until later, because 206 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: it just is not always effective. But for me, the 207 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: tumor was so far to the side. It was almost 208 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: like kind of on my ribs a little bit, and 209 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: something much more obvious to me. I can't even tell 210 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: you that I was being responsible and doing regular checks 211 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: at that time, but it was something that I kind 212 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: of felt and was like, oh, that's really weird. It 213 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: didn't go away, it didn't change, and so I was 214 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: very fortunate. On January first of twenty seventeen, I started 215 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: an insurance program with Kaiser Permanente, and I was in 216 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: an opera that month, so I was really really busy. 217 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: But I was like, I should make an appointment, and 218 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: I got one with a new doctor, and you know, 219 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: it's so weird. I remember being in that appointment and 220 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: almost not telling her because I just didn't want it 221 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: to be real. But finally, you know, kind of new. 222 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: At the end of the she said, is there anything 223 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: else before we go? And I was like, yeah, there's 224 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: this lump. She took a look and she agreed. She 225 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: me in for an ultrasound and that was kind of 226 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: the start of figuring out what was going on there. 227 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: So did they develop a treatment plan for you? So 228 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: after diagnosis? Yeah, it was the whole team, right. It 229 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: was my oncologist, a surgeon, a radiation oncologist, a plastic surgeon, 230 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: like everybody on the same team at Kaiser met together 231 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: figured out what the best plan was before they brought 232 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: it to me. So in my first appointment, I met 233 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: every single one of them and learned what would happen next. 234 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: And I mean, were you relatively comfortable as a five 235 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: year survival rate for stage two breast cancer it is 236 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: pretty high, it's like ninety So were you pretty comfortable 237 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: at that point that this was something that could just 238 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: be dealt with? I don't think so. I think it 239 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: was terrified. You know, you can look at rates all 240 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: you want and in either direction, good or bad. They 241 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: only mean so much to me. And I say that 242 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: now as a later stage patient that I don't look 243 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: at the survival rates for stage four and believe them. 244 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: I don't because I have to think of myself as 245 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: a person in not a number, but back then as 246 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: a brand new patient having I mean, I had no 247 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: family history, so I didn't even have any context from 248 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: anyone else kind of close to me that had been 249 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: through this before. So for all I knew I was 250 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: going to die, I had no idea. It was terrifying. 251 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: Were you able to find some survivors to talk to 252 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: and to learn from? Yes, that was a huge lifeline 253 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: and I'm really thankful for that, especially through kind of 254 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: social media that there were people who connected me to 255 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: friends of friends. You know, this person also just went 256 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: through this. I met a friend even in person and 257 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: Baltimore through a mutual friend, and she was twenty nine 258 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: at the same time. We were really parallel in our stories, 259 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: so we kind of became comrades that way. And that's 260 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: the biggest thing for any new patient is not to 261 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: go to Google and try to fall down that rabbit 262 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: hole of information, but to actually find other patients who 263 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: have real life experience that they can share. I think 264 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: that's immensely important. So you began to receive treatments, and 265 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: I think what was amazing to us was and I 266 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: hope everybody who's listening will go to YouTube and we'll 267 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: search for the unsinkable Molly Grace, because you suddenly began 268 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: doing these YouTube videos that are astonishing. I mean, there's 269 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: no other way to describe it. It was a living 270 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: out of your artistic brilliance in a way that I 271 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: would never have dreamed of, and that both Klust and I, 272 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: particularly when we were in Rome as she served as ambassador, 273 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: we would look at these and try to keep track 274 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: of you, and you just had this enormous resilience. Could 275 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: you describe how did you decide that while you were 276 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: taking I think it was you were taking chemotherapy, that 277 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: you would do videos. It's an amazing achievement. Thank you. 278 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: The funny thing is, you know, it has become something 279 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: much more for other people. It has grown and it 280 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: has spread. I've been so humbled and just pleased to hear, 281 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: especially from other cancer patients that you know, hey, I'm 282 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: going through a hard time and I saw your video 283 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: and made me smile today, or particularly for other young 284 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: patients who have children, and they can say, you know, 285 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: some of the Disney ones that I've done are silly, 286 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: fun ones where they say, you know, my kids are 287 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: so scared, but they see you in a costume hooked 288 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: up just like mom is, and it makes them laugh, 289 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: or it makes them not as scared of all the 290 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: medicine and all the treatments. But it all started just 291 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: as a distraction for myself. I often equate my psyche 292 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: to a toddler who just needs some pots and pans 293 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: to bang around. And you know, if I were to 294 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: even try to fully grasp the gravity and the danger 295 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: of the situation that I'm in every day, I don't 296 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: think I'd ever stop crying, you know, But I can't. 297 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: I have to put that aside and find an alternative focus. 298 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: And the biggest advice I was told going into chemo 299 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: by other patients, by anyone, was to have a hobby. 300 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: Chemo is really boring. It's often really long, and it's 301 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: not even for a lot of people. You know, the 302 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: effects of chemo are going to come in the days 303 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: and weeks after. It's not while you're hooked up, so 304 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: you're just kind of sitting there and maybe you feel 305 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: fine or you're sleepy or whatever. But the idea of 306 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: going into those appointments with a book or knitting or 307 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: something like that, it just wasn't enough. The situation I 308 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: was in was horrific and so I needed something equally 309 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: big in a way to balance. You know. It's funny 310 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: how look back at the first videos and I'm like, ah, 311 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: this is peasant work. This is no good because I 312 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: wasn't doing full length videos. There's no costume. The only 313 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: thing I was wearing was red lips because of the 314 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: whole red lip army movement in which a friend of 315 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: mine had suggested that my friends and family wear red 316 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: lipstick on my treatment days as a show of solidarity 317 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: and a kind of defiance in that I am not 318 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 1: a person who likes pink or pink ribbons. And of 319 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: course I ended up getting the pink cancer, but I 320 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: kind of tried to, i don't know, control the narrative 321 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: a bit and choose red and red lips as an 322 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: act of defiance. So that was how it started. But 323 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: they were very short videos for the first few. I'm 324 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: thinking back to the one that really sparked the costumes. 325 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: I think it was for July fourth that I did 326 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: Katy Perry's firework and I got some pinwheels to stick 327 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: to my bald head, and I had a friend off 328 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: camera blowing them so they're spinning on the camera. It 329 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: tickled my funny bone so much it became this pursuit of, well, 330 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: what's the next thing. It's going to make me laugh 331 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: and makes other people laugh. Great, But it really started 332 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: as a way just to distract and soothe my own self. 333 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: At that point in that process, one of the things 334 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: I noticed was you do have very loyal friends, and 335 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: that your friends helped make it. You couldn't have done 336 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: this purely by yourself. Absolutely not. No, I'm again the 337 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: luckiest cancer patient you're ever going to be, even born 338 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: in Saint Patrick's Day. That lucky. But yeah, No, the community. 339 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: I have my family, my friends and friends of friends 340 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: of friends again, social media. I know it's a mixed bag, 341 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: but I've had so many blessings from it, absolutely so. 342 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: How many total have you done by now? Do you know? 343 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: Offen forty eight? Wow? And each of them was connected 344 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: to a chemotherapy session chemotherapy or immunotherapy, which are both 345 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: infusion drugs. So with each one of them, I have 346 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: a chemoport, I'm connected to the machine, I'm getting the drip. 347 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: Did thirty the first round, and then I've done seventeen 348 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: up till this past December, and I just did the 349 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: first of season three. Last week, I think, yeah, yeah, 350 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: on our show page, we're going to link to your 351 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 1: Unsinkable Molly Grace and all the videos pop up there, 352 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: and I just have to tell people, you're going to 353 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: be amazed when you watch these. Now. One of the 354 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: things that really became sort of legendary is your costumes 355 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: are so good that Cliffs and I had first thought 356 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: you must have a costume designer. But I understand that's 357 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: not true. Not only you the performer, but you're also 358 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: the costume designer, costumes, makeup, props, all of it. Yeah, 359 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: when I say I need a distraction, it's really comprehensive, 360 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: you know. And some of the costumes are simple and 361 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: it's just like an outfit. But I remember I did 362 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: oh Man one of my favorite mashups around Thanksgiving in 363 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: season one. I did empty Chairs at Empty Tables from 364 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: La Miz, but dressed as a Thanksgiving Turkey, so it's 365 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: the turkey talking about all his friends. I was very 366 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: homemade with that costume, you know. Here I am. It 367 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: was like eleven o'clock at night the day before chemo, 368 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting on my living room floor and cutting 369 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: out feathers of red and orange and yellow construction paper 370 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: to make a feathered back piece for this turkey costume, 371 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: and again just cracked me up. I thought, how absurd 372 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: and silly and ridiculous this is. I'm a cancer patient, 373 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: But because I'm doing this craft for this costume, for 374 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: this silly video, I'm not as focused on my mortality 375 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: or the pain or the n nausea or the side effects. 376 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm using my energies towards the creativity of producing something 377 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: and making something out of nothing. And I think there's 378 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 1: an enormous healing strengthen that, however we can find it. 379 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: So I'm curious, because you're doing lip syncing, do you 380 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: rehearse at all? Oh? Yes, bless you Newt for thinking 381 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: I just do that off the fly. Well, remember i'm audience. 382 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: Well you know no, that's the thing. I have a 383 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: performer personality, but I also have performer experience, which is 384 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: to say, rehearse, rehearse, rehearse, always be prepared. And that's 385 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: the thing is, I have a set amount of time 386 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: to get this right. I don't ever want to be 387 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: in the way of my nurses or holding up somebody 388 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 1: else who needs to get in their chair because I 389 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: haven't gotten a good take, right, there's a lot of 390 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: rehearsal if there's something with any props or like changes 391 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: in the makeup, anything like that. I always practice ahead 392 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: of time, absolutely, so I'm very curious. You may not 393 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: know this off at the top of your head, but 394 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: what's the most takes and the fewest takes? Ooh, that's 395 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: a great question. Well, I can tell you right away. 396 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: The fewest takes will be my most recent one, which 397 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: was Unstoppable by Sea. And the reason for that is 398 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: I chose very purposely to make this one a little 399 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: bit of a different mood. I usually do stuff that's funny, silly, heartwarming, 400 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, any combination of those things, and I just 401 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't bring myself to do that this time because 402 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: it's so much worse. Tumors in my brain, you know, 403 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: a second site of metastatic cancer, and the odds are 404 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: so much worse for me now, and I'm aware of it. 405 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: As much as I aim to empower myself and anyone 406 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: who sees it, I had to do something a little 407 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: bit more honest, and so the video when you see it, 408 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, it starts out and it's kind of my default, 409 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, defiant kind of look and mood, and then 410 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: there's a second verse and I start crying, like I'm 411 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: actually crying and it's not fake. Those emotions are real, 412 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: but it's also controlled because I knew at the end 413 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to shake that off and finish defiant. But 414 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: that's all part of you know, for me, I did 415 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: practice that quite a bit, of allowing myself to kind 416 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: of dip into that emotion and express it and then 417 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: get it back, And that's something that I knew I 418 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: couldn't do over and over in that chair. So in 419 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: a sense, you begin and you close unstoppable, and in 420 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: the middle you feel it. Yes, I think, and you 421 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: know the words being I put my armor on and 422 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: show you how strong I am. And that's true, and 423 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: I do, and I am strong, but I wish I 424 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: didn't have to be. That's the emotion in the middle 425 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: of the song is like, I'm so tired. I'm so 426 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: tired of being strong. I'm so tired of having to 427 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: be so brave and fierce and courageous and all those 428 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: other adjectives. At the end of the day, I would 429 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: give anything to be someone else's cheerleader and not be 430 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: going through this, but at the end of the song, 431 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: it's like, well, okay, but here we are boots on 432 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: the ground. We do it. So to take you back 433 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: to that for a dist a minute, and I know 434 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: it's a must have been a terrible moment in your life. 435 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: You were in remission and you must have had a 436 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: sense of optimism, and then in December of twenty twenty 437 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: you discovered that it had spread to your lungs and 438 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: that you were treated then for lung cancer. Breast cancer 439 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: in my lungs, And that's a very common misconception. So 440 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: breast cancer, it's technically always breast cancer, but it can 441 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: travel through the body, which is when it becomes late 442 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: stage metastatic, and we currently do not have a cure 443 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: for that. There are a lot of treatments and a 444 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: lot more coming. You know, science moves very quickly, and 445 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm in really wonderful hands with my medical team. But 446 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: finding out it was in my lungs, oh Man, especially 447 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: as a singer, it's just insulting. It's like, you know, 448 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: I could deal with it once and then it came 449 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: around a second time, and especially during a pandemic of 450 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: a respiratory disease of COVID. That was my first thought 451 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: was I must have COVID. I went to my ecologist 452 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: and mentioned, you know, my breathing is just off. I'm 453 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: getting winded so quickly. I'm short of breath. And it's 454 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: a wonderful thing that I brought it up, because my 455 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: labs and my scans were all clear at that time. 456 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: If you looked at my blood or at even pet 457 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: scans at that time, everything was fine. He ordered me 458 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: a cat scan of my chest and that's how we 459 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: found it. But if I hadn't brought that up in 460 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: that appointment, could have gone on quite a bit longer 461 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: before we be noticed it. You're being treated for that, 462 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: and then in January of this year, you were diagnosed 463 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: with metastatic breast cancer in your brain, which must have 464 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: come as a terrible shock. That's a good word for it. Yeah. 465 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: I had a day where in my right eye there 466 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: were just blinking spots and swirling and kind of a 467 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: depth perception issue. And it had happened to me maybe 468 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: a couple times in the past year for a minute 469 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: or two, but nothing. It was very transient. I didn't 470 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: really clock it, and then that day it just went 471 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: on for hours and hours it wouldn't stop. I canceled 472 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: my lessons. I was lying in a dark room just 473 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: willing it to go away. But finally my husband, who's 474 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: a doctor, and I decided, yeah, we got to go 475 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: to the emergency room. So they did a cat scan 476 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: on my head, then an MRI, and then I got 477 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: admitted for a few days because we found over thirty 478 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 1: tumors in my brain. As I understand it, you had 479 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: won large tumor and the number of small tumors correct. 480 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: So there are a couple days of back and forth 481 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: about the plan, specifically between surgery and radiation oncology, of 482 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, what was the cost benefit here of going 483 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: into surgery, And it was my radiation oncologist who really 484 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: I think went to bat for me and said, you know, 485 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: radiation can work if we get this one big one out, 486 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 1: but we've got to do that first to give her 487 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,239 Speaker 1: the best chance, because from her end, she said, you know, 488 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: we leave that in. I can do this radiation plan, 489 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: but we might be back here in six months in 490 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: the same situation. So I did have a craniotomy on 491 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: January nineteenth, I believe, and they took out that first 492 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: and largest one which was again luckily very far up 493 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: to the edge. They didn't really have to excavate too 494 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: far into my brain, which is fantastic And as terrified 495 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: as I was going into brain surgery, it would like 496 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: textbook perfect. It couldn't have gone better. I was home 497 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: the next day. It was amazing. I mean, isn't that 498 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: sort of amazing? The scale and the momentum of the 499 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: new therapies and the new approaches and things that they 500 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: now do with microsurgery that would have been twenty years ago. Horrendous. 501 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely no. Science is just unreal, and I think about 502 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: that a lot. Being lucky. I have a breast cancer 503 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: friend and I said to her runs, I was like, 504 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, we were just peasant women in the fourteen hundreds. 505 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: They would slap some leeches on us and they might 506 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: blood let and then we'd die. Never be it. But 507 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: here we are. We get to be cancer patients in 508 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and so many therapies and options that 509 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: are going to keep us going. When we balanced the 510 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: federal budget while I was a speaker, we made a 511 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: specific provision to double the size of the National Institute's 512 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: of Health because we just thought that the momentum of 513 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: science was just beginning to really become practical in terms 514 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: of healthcare, and I think it's clearly paid off in 515 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: almost every aspect of healthcare. Now every month we're making 516 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: new breakthroughs. Now, when you and I chatted about you 517 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: doing this, one of the things that we agreed on 518 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: was it You've had a particular experience with insurance and 519 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: you feel strongly about it, and I wanted you to 520 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: share with people because I think you felt, as we 521 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: discussed it, that the Affordable Care Act really had dramatically 522 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: changed your life and maybe, in a sense, had saved 523 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: your life. Do you want to spend a couple of 524 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: minutes and talk about how you see the health system 525 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: and what your concerns are about it. Yeah. Absolutely, And 526 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: all to preface that by saying, as we spoke earlier, 527 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: I have three degrees in music, so I am by 528 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: no means a healthcare or a policy expert. I'm simply 529 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: a patient with real life experience. I've been fortunate to 530 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: be gainfully employed as a singer, as a musician and 531 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: a teacher since I graduated, and I have the amount 532 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: of work that is full time, but it's a lot 533 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: of different employers in different gigs and such, so there 534 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: was no opportunity for me through employment to be in 535 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: short So it was through the ACA that I was 536 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: able to afford getting on any insurance plan at all. 537 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: And I'm so so fortunate that I chose Kaiser Permanente 538 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: and I started with them January first, twenty seventeen. And 539 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: when I say fortunate, they have what's called a Medical 540 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: Financial Assistance Program that is an extra tier level of 541 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: care for both low income patients but also any patient 542 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: who meets what they call a high medical expense criteria, 543 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: which cancer definitely falls under. So the minute I was 544 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: diagnosed as an oncology patient, I was given a year 545 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: of free care with them. I was already member in 546 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: the program, but that meant no co pays, no deductibles, 547 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: none of that, and so I was able to kind 548 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: of move forward with surgery, with chemo, with radiation, with 549 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: hormone therapy, with immunotherapy, all the things that I did, 550 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: and all I had to really worry about was dying. 551 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: And that sounds so silly, but that should be the 552 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: privilege of any cancer patient that you can actually just 553 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: focus on your healing and focus on taking care of 554 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: yourself and managing through this process. And when I got married, 555 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: my husband is in the military, so eventually I switched 556 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: over onto his insurance, which is Trycare. And here again 557 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: there's no back and forth between insurance and doctor or 558 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: I've never had to argue about the legitimacy of the 559 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: need for a scan or prescription or anything. And these 560 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 1: are things that I see online all the time, cancer 561 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: patients saying, oh, my doctor wants me to get this scan. 562 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: My insurance doesn't think I need it, so they're not 563 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: going to cover it. And we're talking about thousands of 564 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: dollars just for a scan, just to see if you're 565 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: dying faster. And it's just unbelievable the agony that a 566 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: lot of patients go through that's not even connected to 567 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: their illness, but just to the red tape of getting 568 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: everything covered. So when I say I'm lucky yet again, 569 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: every time I've gone through his cancer, I've been able 570 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: to focus on myself and not on the bills. And 571 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: so to me, that's why this conversation I couldn't have 572 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: it without mentioning that because it's all well and good 573 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: to applaud my wonderful videos and my positive spirit and 574 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: all of that, But it couldn't exist if I didn't 575 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: have the coverage that I've had. I would not have 576 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: the energy and the bandwidth to put on costumes and 577 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: lip sync and the chemo award if I were also 578 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: worrying about how do I pay for all these things 579 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: to live? That's not been a part of my experience, 580 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: which I'm acutely aware is not the norm somehow, whatever 581 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: we end up with in terms of insurance systems. As 582 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: I understand it, early detection is absolutely crucial to survival rates. 583 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: So there has to be a huge bias in favor 584 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: of testing and in favor of screening, I mean, is 585 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: that sort of your experience? Absolutely, And you know, for 586 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: patients to feel like if something's wrong that they can 587 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: go get it checked out. The number of stories I 588 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: could tell about people who are sick or are worried 589 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: and they don't go to a doctor because they think 590 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: I can't afford that, whether it's the co pay, I'm 591 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: talking about people who are insured also, not even just 592 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: people who can't afford insurance off the bat, and certainly 593 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: they're at this extreme disadvantage. Even my own brother when 594 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: he was I think between insurance. This is a few 595 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: years back, but he had extreme abdominal pain and he 596 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: was terrified of the bills. He didn't go to the 597 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: doctor for a week and he had appendicitis and it 598 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: was so much worse because he had waited. They had 599 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: to take out a section of intestines because of it. 600 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: And it's bizarre to me. You know, we're in a 601 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: first world country and that citizens would feel that way, 602 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: that they just have to kind of like hold on 603 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: to that pain or that worry and not go get 604 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: the treatment that they need because they can't budget for it. 605 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: That's not right. That shouldn't be the way it is. 606 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: So as we try to redesign the system, ensuring access 607 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: for screening, for diagnostics, and then ensuring that if it's 608 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: a serious problem they just taken care of. That's the hope, right, 609 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: and that should be the plan. Is if you can 610 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is, cancer, any other number of conditions, 611 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: if you can catch it early, that's actually going to 612 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: save money in the long run. You know, a later 613 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: stage cancer patient is going to need far bigger treatments. Right. 614 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: I think I shared with you the amounts I try 615 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: to do a ball park, and I'm pretty sure. It's 616 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: a very low ball. When I asked my husband, if 617 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: you just had to throw out a number from twenty 618 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: seventeen to now, what it has taken to keep me alive, 619 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 1: and he said, hmmm, we're looking at a million dollars. 620 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: I spend some time adding things up, calculating how many 621 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: cat scans have had and MRIs and this and nut 622 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: and he's not far off. And my goodness, and I 623 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: was early stage at the beginning. But the point being, 624 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: nothing comes cheap, and I'm aware of that. Nothing is free, right, 625 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: These drugs and these treatments, all this stuff, and it 626 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of development and research and time, 627 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: and these scientists, these doctors, the commitment and energy they 628 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: put into that. I'm aware of that. However, it's just 629 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: if we could catch things earlier and have people get 630 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: these scans that's routine, we could probably save quite a bit. 631 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: I think, well, I think that's right. And part of 632 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: that's also convincing people, even if it's free, convincing them 633 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: that they need to come do it. Absolutely, And that 634 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: first appointment, I was scared to tell the doctor that 635 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: I had that lamp. I just didn't want it to 636 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: be true. One of the analogies I have for myself 637 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: is a little bit about my history of cars in 638 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: which I have a bad habit, especially in my twenties, 639 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: of if I heard a bad noise or something coming 640 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 1: from my car, it could have just tried to pretend 641 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't happening, and it always ended up being worse. 642 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: You know, I would eventually have to dig it in 643 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,959 Speaker 1: and then I cost myself more trouble in money because 644 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: I hadn't gotten it fixed at the onset. And our 645 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 1: health is that way as well. And you know, our 646 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: health is something we shouldn't skimp on, we shouldn't budget 647 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: You know, you can get a used car, you can 648 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: get all sorts of budgeted items in your life. But 649 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: your health, my goodness, that should be number one. Klosta's 650 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: father I said that health is everything. That if you 651 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: have good health, it's amazing what you can go through, 652 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: and if you have bad health, it just focuses your life. 653 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm curious on the psychological side, what's your advice to 654 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: others who go through cancer treatments or other similar difficult 655 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: health situations. It's a great question. I think one of 656 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: the biggest things is to not be afraid to ask 657 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: for help. I think a lot of us are not 658 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: always comfortable reaching out and asking for that. I'm so 659 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: lucky my own community, my own network, people who support 660 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: me in so many different ways, and I'm incredibly grateful 661 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: for that. And I think it's a mutual thing right 662 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: that people in your life they want to help in 663 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: a situation that can feel so helpless, and being able 664 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: to ask for what you need, and I think that's 665 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: a huge thing. And then I think I already mentioned this, 666 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: but oh man, stay off Google. There's a limit to 667 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: how much information can be helpful. And again, if I 668 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: were to look at all the statistics, if I were 669 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: to really focus on my odds, it would be hard 670 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: to get out of bed in the morning, you know. 671 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: But I keep telling myself, I'm not a statistic I'm 672 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: a person. I get to write my own story. That's great. Well, 673 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: you've written an amazing story so far as you know 674 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: close to I pray for you and think you're just amazing. 675 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: And I want you to know that we're taking very 676 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 1: seriously trying to think through a reshaping of the health 677 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 1: system to meet the kind of standards you're talking about, 678 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 1: both making it easy and normal to have early examinations 679 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: and early checks, and also finding a way that when 680 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: people have a serious problem that their primary concern has 681 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: to be their health and not their wallet. And while 682 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: I want to thank you, and I know this is 683 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: difficult topic, although you do it so well and you 684 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: make it so positive, it's remarkable and I really appreciate 685 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: and I think our entire audience will appreciate both you 686 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: taking the time to talk about your personal experience in 687 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: battling cancer and your honest thoughts about what has to 688 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: be done for the system. We are going to have 689 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 1: links on our show page so people can watch your videos. 690 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: They're truly amazing and I recommend them to all of 691 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 1: our listeners. And I want to thank you. I speak 692 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: for Kliston also and taking this time and being with us, 693 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: and we look forward so much too listening to your 694 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: singing again and do the amazing job you do well. 695 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. Thank you to 696 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: my guest Molly Grace Young. You can watch her lip 697 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: syncing videos on our show page at Newtsworld dot com. 698 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: News World is produced by Gingwide three sixty and iHeartMedia. 699 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: Our executive producer is Garnsey Slow. Our producers Rebecca Howe 700 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: and our researcher is Rachel Peterson. The artwork for the 701 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: show was created by Steve Penley. 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