WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Rookie Camp Standouts 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:06.960 This. He's talking Cowboys Dreaming live from the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:17.520 World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:23.439 Bryan Brats, Rob Phillips, and Taylor Stern. Welcome everybody into 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:27.120 the s WBC Mortgage studio. Mick, are you are you 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:30.320 joining us? I am. I'm with you. He's with us. 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:34.120 He's gonna go San's headphones today, so I have to 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:39.280 put him on. Yes you do. He's playing along details 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.800 player brand. I'm glad I'm wearing my my blinder glasses 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:47.199 today because that ring looks so say my forehead is 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.919 probably today that ring looks extra shiny today. We need 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:52.800 to talk about that. Yeah, we all need to get 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.360 one of those. We need to get one actually. Uh 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.240 you know. Beasley dropped his Hot Fire album over the 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.240 weekend and sent out a tweet yesterday and said, that's 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:02.840 all I got in the chamber for now. Let's go 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:06.320 get this super Bowl. There you go. He's football focused. 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.800 I admire people that have a little extra talent to 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.880 do things. It's helpful. Yeah, as a human being. It 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.320 didn't you know. We were listening to it on Saturday evening. 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:19.759 The album at rookie camp. I was listening with Dave 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.280 and William. What do you think those guys? Dave had 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.760 used the word flow. I guess that's how you describe 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.360 a wide receiver. Wide receivers. Got a little flow to him, 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:33.480 got the hair too, flow? Yeah, so was that description 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:37.080 of his music? Yeah, that's important. Yeah, you have to 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.800 have a little flow and so yeah, good for him though. Again, 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.360 I admire people. I amire people who use power tools 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.400 that can, you know, build things. I admire people that 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.680 can do those. You can cook, I can't. Yeah, I 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.280 admire that. I'm pretty proud about my ability to cook. Yeah. 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.240 No one's mad that, you know, Dak likes to go 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.880 fishing in the season, but we're all mad abusily for 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:00.640 writing some heavy rhymes. Are people mad? Is that kind 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.200 of the No? I think he got the top five. 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.320 I think now I'm ten among hip hop and the 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.840 hip hop album I don't know. Yeah, no, it was 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.480 on iTunes. I think did you get a listen, Mick? 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.440 I tried listening when I was working out this morning, 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.240 but I couldn't get it to work good workout music. 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:18.799 Did you really try or did you just kind of 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:20.720 have kind of like voting in the Twitter poll like 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:25.160 I look for it, like Jesus I had it. I 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.079 kept pushing the little arrow going to the rock. Some 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.480 old man in a sauna with a towel around him 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.440 taking a bit. I don't take my phone in the sauna. Okay, 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:39.000 no more, no more, but no more? Yeah, well, Beasley, 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.720 you know he's ready to rock and roll for OTA's 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:45.240 starting next Tuesday. But we did have rookie Minicamp over 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.440 the weekend. You brought up being here on Saturday. The 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.720 two day event gave us a little glimpse at some 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.440 of the guys. You know, people obviously looking at the 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.320 first round pick Laton vander ash but there were some 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.080 other guys out there. And the one that really caught 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:01.560 my eye, at least on Friday was Marquez White, who 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.600 was able to participate from last year. Yeah, yeah, from 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:07.600 last year. You know, a guy that could help in 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.919 the secondary. We've been looking at it. We've been seeing 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:12.880 how this is going to all shape out. Of course, 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.519 with the different moves of Byron Jones and things like that. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:17.760 Did you guys also look at White and all? Did 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:19.639 you get a chance. I'll tell you what, Tan, It's 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.800 good eye on your part. What I noticed about that 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.120 group as a whole is they're all the same size. 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:28.200 The second well, the secondary appears to be and this 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:33.320 could be very well. The Chris Richard influence here where 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.800 you look at the and all the guys, even the 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.240 rookies they brought in White you mentioned, is in a 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.120 second season here with the team, but they all are 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:46.960 the same height, same length, same build build. So I 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.800 think this is something that we're going to see going 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.520 for as long as Chris rochard Is is the secondary 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:54.720 coach here. But I liked what I saw from the group. 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:56.960 I liked how he was working with him on press 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:00.680 coverage stuff, the jam with the one hand am, the sink, 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:04.360 the positioning, how to play the routes. I think that's 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.120 kind of a skill. You know, a lot of times 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:08.720 these guys use their just their ability and just say, Okay, 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.480 I'm just gonna stay in front. But it takes some technique. 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.320 That's why you know, you get some guys like he had, 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:18.440 like Richard Sherman. Richard Sherman wasn't the fastest foot athlete, 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.839 you know, they're in Seattle, but he played excellent technique. 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.200 So if you find a way that you can play. 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.560 And that's what Brandon Carr. Brandon Carr got fifty million 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.160 dollars being a press man corner. So if you learn 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.360 to play technique, you learn to how to jam, to sink, 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.760 and to be able to redirect, I think you can 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:37.200 go a long way. But I really like what I 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.839 saw overall with the group as far as their size, 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.960 their reach, the range in which they were able to 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:45.560 play with Mick. You know, last season you talked a 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.040 lot about the offensive line, and of course they added 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:51.440 the new shiny toy of Connor Williams. Were you happy 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.480 to see him out there doing the left guard? The flexibility? 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.040 What impressed you most about Connor? He's got great feet. Yeah, 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.440 I watched him due to the drill yes day where 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:04.039 they were hopping in the different squares, and he did 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:08.679 it like he was a wide receiver. He's got great feet, 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:13.880 great movement. He wants to do this. You can tell 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:19.360 he's he's all in. So yeah, he'll be a nice addition. 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.920 But again, when they start this thing, he's not going 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.799 to be the first team left guard. When they start 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.320 OTA's you know, he's gonna have to move up. They'll 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.760 give deference to the veterans that have been here, and 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:33.960 then you got to earn your way. You know the 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:38.960 thing about the cornerbacks, I like with Chris Richard said 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.440 about playing man and all this stuff. He and the 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.560 guy's being bigger. He said, I want to cause a 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.440 problem at the line of scrimmage. He goes, because if 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.440 I cause a problem at the line of scrimmage as 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.040 a cornerback, that gives the wide receiver something else to 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.839 think about other than just getting it in his route. 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.120 Now he's got to beat me. Now again, you better 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.640 have some ketchup speed because if going to play that 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:04.600 single safety high coverage, once you get beat, your beat beat. 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:09.360 So but I like the idea of causing problems on 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:11.680 the line of scrimmage for the wide receiver. Rob I 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.919 was reading your article yesterday. Does anyone loved Chris Rohard 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:18.479 more than rodmrnelling. I'm not so sure that that's the case. 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.920 I think um Rod said it. He thinks of all 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.360 the moves they've made this offseason, he might be the 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.240 most significant guy. And that's a strong statement when you 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.039 consider about all the things they've done, remaking some of 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:33.120 the personnel, some of the coaching changes, they've made and 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.640 Brian wrote about a lot of this some interesting drill 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.800 work and technique that we maybe haven't seen before that 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.400 Ben Bloom was doing with the linebackers, that Sanjay Law 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:46.359 was doing with the wide receivers. But I think I 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.960 think Chris Roschard brings some instant cred and track record 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.160 with what he's done with reference at Richard Sherman Legion 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:58.039 of Boom. He's got a he's got an it factor. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.520 That's That's what Rod spoke to each really good at 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:04.560 connecting with guys. You know, he's an impressive guy when 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:08.279 you talk to him so well. You got to have 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.960 the personnel and I think Mickey spoke to that too, though. 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:12.720 You've got to be able to you know, to make 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.400 it fit your scheme. And that's why Byron Jones is 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.960 playing corner. They He actually said when he was scouting 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.200 Byron Jones coming out of the draft, he looked at 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.400 him as a corny thought he'd be perfect for what 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:26.880 they did in Seattle. Big corner Rangie got speed, got 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:30.160 catch up speed. But you know it's it's gonna be 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:31.960 a little bit of a transition and the way they 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.600 play and the guys they use back there Brian. When 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:38.080 you guys were in this actual studio and you're watching 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.360 the war room and you guys were talking about who 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.560 they might pick in the first round, he kind of 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.000 tricked you up because he came into the room with 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.640 Rod Marinelli as they were deciding to choose. And a 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.560 lot of people forget that. He has also taken on 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.040 the title as passing game coordinator. Right, how do you 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.600 think he'll impact that, because of course it was ebra 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:58.400 Flus last year. Yeah, I'd say what I think everything 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:02.760 that Rob said about Richard is absolutely true. The credibility 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:06.640 part of it. Players understand, Okay, this guy coached you know, 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.640 outstanding players in Seattle. They had a lot of success. 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.440 You've got to be able to marry the front with 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.720 the secondary, and that's where this really comes into play, 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:20.400 because Rod Marinelli doesn't like to blitz a lot. But 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.680 you've got to be able to take the front seven 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.040 and say, Okay, if we're gonna blitz here, then we've 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:27.920 got to play this on the back end, or if 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.960 we're going to play zone coverage, this is what we're 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:32.800 going to do on the front. You have to be 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.600 able to have that coordination between and Mattie Raflus did 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:37.800 a really nice job with that. You could tell that 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.439 that Rod Mirnilli really leaned on him a lot. He's 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.960 gonna miss Eberflus, But I think he's got a guy 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:47.080 in Richard though, again that can bring everybody together. John 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.559 Snyder told me John the GM at Seattle, said, Hey, 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.880 this guy makes players accountable. I think that's really all 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.400 you want from your players. You want ability and accountability, 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.839 and those are the two things I think Chris Richard brings. 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:00.839 I love the quote that Richard had had about that 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.480 the other day. He said, you know, the big thing 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.600 about the Legion of Boom, what was accountability? And it 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.479 actually was dependability. It was it was okay, yeah, you're accountable. 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.480 Yeah I screwed up. Well, how about being dependable? How 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.400 about not screwing up and not making the same mistake twice? 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.360 And that's yeah. He's gonna hold guys accountable back there. 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.360 And I think that's important because it's a very young group. 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.600 I mean, Byron Jones if he steps in at corner, okay, 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:25.800 he's a veteran guy, but you got a lot of 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:27.640 second year guys. I mean, I think there's five guys 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.840 on this roster from last year that are no more 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.640 than two years in the league. Absolutely, So the other 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:36.880 thing I kind of liked about just kind of how 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:42.679 he presented things his first time to talk to the media. 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.319 And one of the things you got to remember about him, 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.160 you asked about taking care of the second dary and 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:52.120 the passing game. Remember he's three years as a defensive coordinating. Absolutely, 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:53.920 he did the whole thing. He did the whole thing. 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.640 So he's your eyes on the linebacker, he's your eyes 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:03.199 on the secondary safety. He started as a cornerback coach, 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.160 came the defensive back coach, and then became the defensive 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.480 coordinator for three years. And you kind of get the 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.560 feeling it. You know, they didn't bring him back just 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:14.640 because he did a bad job. They were looking to 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:19.080 get new almost like what happened here. They wanted new voices, right, 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:20.800 They got rid of him, They got rid of the 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.920 offensive corder, and they got rid of the offensive line coach. 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:28.040 They kind of cleaned house to start over. And sometimes 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.840 you got to do that to get everybody's attention out there. 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:34.080 And I think we saw that with these rookies, these 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.320 new coaches. It's like, Okay, the rookies didn't know any different. 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.680 But it'll be interesting to see how the OTAs go 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.600 when they have to step up the bed and blooms 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:44.960 all of a sudden have a voice. Oh no, absolutely 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:49.600 a new voice. With Chris Richard, the offensive line coach, 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:54.280 wasn't there he would at his kids graduation. The comment 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:59.080 commencement speech. Okay, so, but but you just get a 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:02.880 feeling that there was a different level of attention, and 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:04.920 I think we'll see it next week. I was more 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.920 interested in the coaches than I woted the players. Does 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.120 that make sense No, because the players really didn't do anything. Yeah, 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.600 I kind of focused. Okay, what is this guy teaching here? 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.600 What is he trying to The receivers went two days 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.880 without catching a ball. Just gonna say, I think we 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.800 found our new Mike Pope girls over there. Yeah, and 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.000 Sanjay Law does some some really some stuff to teach 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.400 his balance and route running and things. I mean, that's 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.760 one of the things that I think I've been really 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.319 critical about, is give me somebody that could separate, Give 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.559 me route runners, give me guys that go to their 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.960 spots and you know the quarterback can find them. So yeah, 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.760 I was amazed, Like two practices and I didn't see 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.080 your receiver catch a ball. I really did, and I 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.720 was like, going, well, this is this is interesting? So 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.400 until Saturday. Until Saturday, Yeah, I mean it was, it was, 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.960 It was. It was. He was all about balance and 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.440 where you need to have your foot and where you 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.520 need to turn and where your weight needs to be 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.160 and all that. So good for him to try and 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.320 get that started very early. I missed Pope like drills. 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.559 You know, we need some more of those now. Of course, 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.120 you know they had the undrafted guys out there as well, 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.640 and a lot of them will see what happens. They 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.760 can all have a chance at training camp. But the 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:16.559 one that I was looking at, and I don't know 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.280 if you guys agreed, Terry Robinson. He was the true 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.079 safety out there, yeah, and the free safety. To get 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.320 him out there to see what he can do. If 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:28.400 he can prove himself, I think he has room to grow. Yeah, 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:31.520 I don't. I Then there's another one, Tay. I think 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.559 that you did a good job of noticing with Robinson 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.160 this team could use a true free safety. And you 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.320 know he was at Oregon and I had written some 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:44.120 reports about him at Oregon and how he played there, 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.840 in the Pac twelve and you see him play as 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.720 a true guy, and he was doing some nice things 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.320 in the in the in the work that he was 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:56.240 getting he was actually Jamille Showers and him were working 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.480 together with if you want to call at the ones, 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.800 he was with the first group with vander esh and 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.760 Covington in those guys. So to see him move around. 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.840 Though he's got the lengthy's six two, he's two hundred 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:12.080 and five pounds, he looks the part and you know 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.000 he could play the part two. I'm interested to see 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.120 if if there's a guy and I'll just say it, 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.400 if there's a guy that's an undrafted guy, and this 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.079 team has a great history of having one or two 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.000 of those guys make it make your team. He's a 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.280 guy that I think, looking at his college tape and 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.880 now just kind of just seeing how he's moving around, 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.439 I'll be interested to see more in the OTAs and stuff. 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.480 But I think he's got a pretty good idea and 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.079 he's got a pretty good fit to play as a 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.520 free safety and a team that needs a free safety. 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.160 The other guy that's and you wrote about him last week, 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.480 I think Cam Kelly from San Diego State, there's a 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.280 couple of guys from San Diego State, but he's a 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.320 you know, he's listed as a corner six two. Again, 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:51.559 it's another tall, rangy guy. Yeah, everybody at that camp 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.120 was over six feet tall playing in the secondary. And 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.920 you know, maybe maybe he has some safety traits too, 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.720 four seven guys too, so he might they might have 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.720 to flip him. I kind of thought that they would. 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.880 The guy they moved they moved into to safety was 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:11.719 from safety to linebacker. It was Kyle Quero from Northwestern. 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:15.400 You could watch Northwestern tape and he plays as a safety, 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.439 but the Cowboys are going to try him. He was 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.920 number forty one as a lineback. Mickey, I got an 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.840 idea for you. You tell me what you think about this. Oh, 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.280 we could have a weekly segment. You guys see what 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:26.960 we think we got to keep him on this team. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:30.160 Marchie and Mickey. Marchie and Mickey. It's a segment waiting 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.680 to happen. I don't know what we would be talking 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:36.400 about yet, but Marchie, I think fits um. I don't know. 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.360 There's a lot of days of training camp. You're looking 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:43.840 for some Marchie, Marchie and Mickey come on the podcast. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.360 I love it, you know, I did notice forty one. Yeah, 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.880 quar I didn't do anything. I mean, they were going, 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.960 but I saw his size and his movement. Yeah, but 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.720 there was just basically drills, and I thought it was 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.320 I thought it was about time they did this rookie 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:05.000 mini camp when I didn't want to see guys pull 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:09.440 hamstrings and sprain ankles and hurt their shoulders diving for passes, 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:14.360 which you know, you sort of hope they back off 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.240 on the OTA's too. You're you know, you're not gonna 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.920 you're not making the Pro Bowl and the OTA. But 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.960 guys start competing and they're diving for balls they don't 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.560 have shoulder pads on, and you get hurt. That's that's 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.520 a good point. There's two sides of it. They're not 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.800 ready for it. They haven't been working out and they're 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.160 trying to impress everybody, so they're going they're going one 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.880 hundred and ten percent when they should be going about fifty. 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.240 I heard, I can't remember who did it. One of 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.520 the coaches were yelling and might have been Garrett, I 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:44.200 don't know. It was like, hey, we're going half speed here, 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.880 kind of slow down. Let's let's just get it right. Well, 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:49.920 and you think about the way these guys trained for 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.520 the draft. It's way different than football at all. It's 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.480 a different conditioning. It's not fair to them to come 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:57.880 out here and be like, Okay, I know you've been 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.760 doing forty drills for the entire office. He's go ahead 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.320 and do this. So yep, I think Mickey's right. It's 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.640 a good way to kind of transition them back into 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.320 that get used to it. Although when looking at all 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:12.440 these guys, let's not overlook the obvious. The guy that 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.200 had the two fives on his chest looked like a 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:20.840 middle linebacker. To me. It was just how the five 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.640 stood out on the front of his jersey. Yea, uh, 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.960 he looks better in a jersey. He looked good in 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.760 a suit, all right. He looked like a football player 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:33.320 in that that jersey. Next, well, I think that with 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:37.840 Layton vander esh Again, it's the size, like you mentioned, guys, 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.680 is there. It's deceptive too, but it is it is. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.800 And the thing about him is, though, let's see how 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:47.320 he if the instincts. Because I love the guy in coverage. 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:48.880 I think he's going to help you as one of 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.120 those you know, can he be a three down player. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:52.880 I think he's got that kind of ability to be 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.040 a three down player where he's gonna have to it's 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.840 going to be the take on. For as big as 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.360 he is. You do see some times where he gets 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.880 hooked up on blocks and he's got he's gonna have 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.200 to watch. Sean Lee's got to learn from Sean Lee. 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.040 Sean Lee doesn't get blocked because he's have the instincts. 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.359 Sean Lee's got the ability, but he's got instincts. He 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.520 knows how to read plays and get away from blocks. 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.800 If Layton vander esh develops that, then you've got You've 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.080 hit on a guy. You've totally hit on a guy. 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:19.879 The only question I have on when they put on 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.639 the pads, will he be able to consistently get away 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.000 from blocks? That's going to be his The one thing 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:26.560 you need to keep an eye on. Well, if you 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:30.000 keep an eye out for a series that Kent has 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:32.760 been working on, and we asked him last week, what 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.800 does he want people to think of him when he's 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.600 done playing, and he said legendary. H So he hopes 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.040 to be consistent for either brand. We're taking a lot 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.960 of fan calls and questions today. 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