1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: This. He's talking Cowboys Dreaming live from the Dallas Cowboys 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: Bryan Brats, Rob Phillips, and Taylor Stern. Welcome everybody into 4 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage studio. Mick, are you are you 5 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: joining us? I am. I'm with you. He's with us. 6 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: He's gonna go San's headphones today, so I have to 7 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: put him on. Yes you do. He's playing along details 8 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: player brand. I'm glad I'm wearing my my blinder glasses 9 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: today because that ring looks so say my forehead is 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: probably today that ring looks extra shiny today. We need 11 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: to talk about that. Yeah, we all need to get 12 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: one of those. We need to get one actually. Uh 13 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: you know. Beasley dropped his Hot Fire album over the 14 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: weekend and sent out a tweet yesterday and said, that's 15 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: all I got in the chamber for now. Let's go 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: get this super Bowl. There you go. He's football focused. 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: I admire people that have a little extra talent to 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: do things. It's helpful. Yeah, as a human being. It 19 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: didn't you know. We were listening to it on Saturday evening. 20 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: The album at rookie camp. I was listening with Dave 21 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: and William. What do you think those guys? Dave had 22 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: used the word flow. I guess that's how you describe 23 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Wide receivers. Got a little flow to him, 24 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: got the hair too, flow? Yeah, so was that description 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: of his music? Yeah, that's important. Yeah, you have to 26 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: have a little flow and so yeah, good for him though. Again, 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: I admire people. I amire people who use power tools 28 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: that can, you know, build things. I admire people that 29 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: can do those. You can cook, I can't. Yeah, I 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: admire that. I'm pretty proud about my ability to cook. Yeah. 31 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: No one's mad that, you know, Dak likes to go 32 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: fishing in the season, but we're all mad abusily for 33 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: writing some heavy rhymes. Are people mad? Is that kind 34 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: of the No? I think he got the top five. 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: I think now I'm ten among hip hop and the 36 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: hip hop album I don't know. Yeah, no, it was 37 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: on iTunes. I think did you get a listen, Mick? 38 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: I tried listening when I was working out this morning, 39 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: but I couldn't get it to work good workout music. 40 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: Did you really try or did you just kind of 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: have kind of like voting in the Twitter poll like 42 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: I look for it, like Jesus I had it. I 43 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: kept pushing the little arrow going to the rock. Some 44 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: old man in a sauna with a towel around him 45 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: taking a bit. I don't take my phone in the sauna. Okay, 46 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: no more, no more, but no more? Yeah, well, Beasley, 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: you know he's ready to rock and roll for OTA's 48 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: starting next Tuesday. But we did have rookie Minicamp over 49 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: the weekend. You brought up being here on Saturday. The 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: two day event gave us a little glimpse at some 51 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: of the guys. You know, people obviously looking at the 52 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: first round pick Laton vander ash but there were some 53 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: other guys out there. And the one that really caught 54 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: my eye, at least on Friday was Marquez White, who 55 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: was able to participate from last year. Yeah, yeah, from 56 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: last year. You know, a guy that could help in 57 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: the secondary. We've been looking at it. We've been seeing 58 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: how this is going to all shape out. Of course, 59 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: with the different moves of Byron Jones and things like that. 60 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: Did you guys also look at White and all? Did 61 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: you get a chance. I'll tell you what, Tan, It's 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: good eye on your part. What I noticed about that 63 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: group as a whole is they're all the same size. 64 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: The second well, the secondary appears to be and this 65 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: could be very well. The Chris Richard influence here where 66 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: you look at the and all the guys, even the 67 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: rookies they brought in White you mentioned, is in a 68 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: second season here with the team, but they all are 69 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: the same height, same length, same build build. So I 70 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: think this is something that we're going to see going 71 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: for as long as Chris rochard Is is the secondary 72 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: coach here. But I liked what I saw from the group. 73 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: I liked how he was working with him on press 74 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: coverage stuff, the jam with the one hand am, the sink, 75 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: the positioning, how to play the routes. I think that's 76 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: kind of a skill. You know, a lot of times 77 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: these guys use their just their ability and just say, Okay, 78 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stay in front. But it takes some technique. 79 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: That's why you know, you get some guys like he had, 80 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: like Richard Sherman. Richard Sherman wasn't the fastest foot athlete, 81 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: you know, they're in Seattle, but he played excellent technique. 82 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: So if you find a way that you can play. 83 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: And that's what Brandon Carr. Brandon Carr got fifty million 84 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: dollars being a press man corner. So if you learn 85 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: to play technique, you learn to how to jam, to sink, 86 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: and to be able to redirect, I think you can 87 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: go a long way. But I really like what I 88 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: saw overall with the group as far as their size, 89 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: their reach, the range in which they were able to 90 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: play with Mick. You know, last season you talked a 91 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: lot about the offensive line, and of course they added 92 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: the new shiny toy of Connor Williams. Were you happy 93 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: to see him out there doing the left guard? The flexibility? 94 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: What impressed you most about Connor? He's got great feet. Yeah, 95 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: I watched him due to the drill yes day where 96 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: they were hopping in the different squares, and he did 97 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 1: it like he was a wide receiver. He's got great feet, 98 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: great movement. He wants to do this. You can tell 99 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: he's he's all in. So yeah, he'll be a nice addition. 100 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: But again, when they start this thing, he's not going 101 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 1: to be the first team left guard. When they start 102 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: OTA's you know, he's gonna have to move up. They'll 103 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: give deference to the veterans that have been here, and 104 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: then you got to earn your way. You know the 105 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: thing about the cornerbacks, I like with Chris Richard said 106 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: about playing man and all this stuff. He and the 107 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: guy's being bigger. He said, I want to cause a 108 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: problem at the line of scrimmage. He goes, because if 109 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: I cause a problem at the line of scrimmage as 110 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: a cornerback, that gives the wide receiver something else to 111 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: think about other than just getting it in his route. 112 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: Now he's got to beat me. Now again, you better 113 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: have some ketchup speed because if going to play that 114 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: single safety high coverage, once you get beat, your beat beat. 115 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: So but I like the idea of causing problems on 116 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage for the wide receiver. Rob I 117 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: was reading your article yesterday. Does anyone loved Chris Rohard 118 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: more than rodmrnelling. I'm not so sure that that's the case. 119 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: I think um Rod said it. He thinks of all 120 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: the moves they've made this offseason, he might be the 121 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: most significant guy. And that's a strong statement when you 122 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: consider about all the things they've done, remaking some of 123 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: the personnel, some of the coaching changes, they've made and 124 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: Brian wrote about a lot of this some interesting drill 125 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: work and technique that we maybe haven't seen before that 126 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: Ben Bloom was doing with the linebackers, that Sanjay Law 127 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: was doing with the wide receivers. But I think I 128 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: think Chris Roschard brings some instant cred and track record 129 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: with what he's done with reference at Richard Sherman Legion 130 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: of Boom. He's got a he's got an it factor. 131 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: That's That's what Rod spoke to each really good at 132 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: connecting with guys. You know, he's an impressive guy when 133 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: you talk to him so well. You got to have 134 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: the personnel and I think Mickey spoke to that too, though. 135 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: You've got to be able to you know, to make 136 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: it fit your scheme. And that's why Byron Jones is 137 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: playing corner. They He actually said when he was scouting 138 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: Byron Jones coming out of the draft, he looked at 139 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: him as a corny thought he'd be perfect for what 140 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: they did in Seattle. Big corner Rangie got speed, got 141 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: catch up speed. But you know it's it's gonna be 142 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of a transition and the way they 143 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: play and the guys they use back there Brian. When 144 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: you guys were in this actual studio and you're watching 145 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: the war room and you guys were talking about who 146 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: they might pick in the first round, he kind of 147 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: tricked you up because he came into the room with 148 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli as they were deciding to choose. And a 149 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: lot of people forget that. He has also taken on 150 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: the title as passing game coordinator. Right, how do you 151 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: think he'll impact that, because of course it was ebra 152 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: Flus last year. Yeah, I'd say what I think everything 153 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: that Rob said about Richard is absolutely true. The credibility 154 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: part of it. Players understand, Okay, this guy coached you know, 155 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: outstanding players in Seattle. They had a lot of success. 156 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: You've got to be able to marry the front with 157 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: the secondary, and that's where this really comes into play, 158 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: because Rod Marinelli doesn't like to blitz a lot. But 159 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to take the front seven 160 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: and say, Okay, if we're gonna blitz here, then we've 161 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: got to play this on the back end, or if 162 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: we're going to play zone coverage, this is what we're 163 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: going to do on the front. You have to be 164 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: able to have that coordination between and Mattie Raflus did 165 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: a really nice job with that. You could tell that 166 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: that Rod Mirnilli really leaned on him a lot. He's 167 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: gonna miss Eberflus, But I think he's got a guy 168 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: in Richard though, again that can bring everybody together. John 169 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: Snyder told me John the GM at Seattle, said, Hey, 170 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: this guy makes players accountable. I think that's really all 171 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: you want from your players. You want ability and accountability, 172 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: and those are the two things I think Chris Richard brings. 173 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: I love the quote that Richard had had about that 174 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: the other day. He said, you know, the big thing 175 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: about the Legion of Boom, what was accountability? And it 176 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,479 Speaker 1: actually was dependability. It was it was okay, yeah, you're accountable. 177 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: Yeah I screwed up. Well, how about being dependable? How 178 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: about not screwing up and not making the same mistake twice? 179 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: And that's yeah. He's gonna hold guys accountable back there. 180 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: And I think that's important because it's a very young group. 181 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Byron Jones if he steps in at corner, okay, 182 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: he's a veteran guy, but you got a lot of 183 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: second year guys. I mean, I think there's five guys 184 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: on this roster from last year that are no more 185 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: than two years in the league. Absolutely, So the other 186 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: thing I kind of liked about just kind of how 187 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: he presented things his first time to talk to the media. 188 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: And one of the things you got to remember about him, 189 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: you asked about taking care of the second dary and 190 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: the passing game. Remember he's three years as a defensive coordinating. Absolutely, 191 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: he did the whole thing. He did the whole thing. 192 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: So he's your eyes on the linebacker, he's your eyes 193 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: on the secondary safety. He started as a cornerback coach, 194 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: came the defensive back coach, and then became the defensive 195 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: coordinator for three years. And you kind of get the 196 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: feeling it. You know, they didn't bring him back just 197 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: because he did a bad job. They were looking to 198 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: get new almost like what happened here. They wanted new voices, right, 199 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: They got rid of him, They got rid of the 200 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: offensive corder, and they got rid of the offensive line coach. 201 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: They kind of cleaned house to start over. And sometimes 202 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: you got to do that to get everybody's attention out there. 203 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: And I think we saw that with these rookies, these 204 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: new coaches. It's like, Okay, the rookies didn't know any different. 205 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: But it'll be interesting to see how the OTAs go 206 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: when they have to step up the bed and blooms 207 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden have a voice. Oh no, absolutely 208 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: a new voice. With Chris Richard, the offensive line coach, 209 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: wasn't there he would at his kids graduation. The comment 210 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: commencement speech. Okay, so, but but you just get a 211 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: feeling that there was a different level of attention, and 212 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: I think we'll see it next week. I was more 213 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: interested in the coaches than I woted the players. Does 214 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: that make sense No, because the players really didn't do anything. Yeah, 215 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: I kind of focused. Okay, what is this guy teaching here? 216 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: What is he trying to The receivers went two days 217 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: without catching a ball. Just gonna say, I think we 218 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: found our new Mike Pope girls over there. Yeah, and 219 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: Sanjay Law does some some really some stuff to teach 220 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: his balance and route running and things. I mean, that's 221 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: one of the things that I think I've been really 222 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: critical about, is give me somebody that could separate, Give 223 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: me route runners, give me guys that go to their 224 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: spots and you know the quarterback can find them. So yeah, 225 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: I was amazed, Like two practices and I didn't see 226 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: your receiver catch a ball. I really did, and I 227 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: was like, going, well, this is this is interesting? So 228 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: until Saturday. Until Saturday, Yeah, I mean it was, it was, 229 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: It was. It was. He was all about balance and 230 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: where you need to have your foot and where you 231 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: need to turn and where your weight needs to be 232 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: and all that. So good for him to try and 233 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: get that started very early. I missed Pope like drills. 234 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: You know, we need some more of those now. Of course, 235 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: you know they had the undrafted guys out there as well, 236 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: and a lot of them will see what happens. They 237 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: can all have a chance at training camp. But the 238 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: one that I was looking at, and I don't know 239 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: if you guys agreed, Terry Robinson. He was the true 240 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: safety out there, yeah, and the free safety. To get 241 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: him out there to see what he can do. If 242 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: he can prove himself, I think he has room to grow. Yeah, 243 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: I don't. I Then there's another one, Tay. I think 244 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: that you did a good job of noticing with Robinson 245 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: this team could use a true free safety. And you 246 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: know he was at Oregon and I had written some 247 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: reports about him at Oregon and how he played there, 248 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve and you see him play as 249 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: a true guy, and he was doing some nice things 250 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: in the in the in the work that he was 251 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: getting he was actually Jamille Showers and him were working 252 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: together with if you want to call at the ones, 253 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: he was with the first group with vander esh and 254 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: Covington in those guys. So to see him move around. 255 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: Though he's got the lengthy's six two, he's two hundred 256 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: and five pounds, he looks the part and you know 257 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: he could play the part two. I'm interested to see 258 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: if if there's a guy and I'll just say it, 259 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: if there's a guy that's an undrafted guy, and this 260 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: team has a great history of having one or two 261 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: of those guys make it make your team. He's a 262 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: guy that I think, looking at his college tape and 263 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: now just kind of just seeing how he's moving around, 264 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see more in the OTAs and stuff. 265 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: But I think he's got a pretty good idea and 266 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: he's got a pretty good fit to play as a 267 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: free safety and a team that needs a free safety. 268 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: The other guy that's and you wrote about him last week, 269 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: I think Cam Kelly from San Diego State, there's a 270 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: couple of guys from San Diego State, but he's a 271 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, he's listed as a corner six two. Again, 272 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: it's another tall, rangy guy. Yeah, everybody at that camp 273 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: was over six feet tall playing in the secondary. And 274 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe he has some safety traits too, 275 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: four seven guys too, so he might they might have 276 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: to flip him. I kind of thought that they would. 277 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: The guy they moved they moved into to safety was 278 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: from safety to linebacker. It was Kyle Quero from Northwestern. 279 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: You could watch Northwestern tape and he plays as a safety, 280 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: but the Cowboys are going to try him. He was 281 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: number forty one as a lineback. Mickey, I got an 282 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: idea for you. You tell me what you think about this. Oh, 283 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: we could have a weekly segment. You guys see what 284 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: we think we got to keep him on this team. 285 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: Marchie and Mickey. Marchie and Mickey. It's a segment waiting 286 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: to happen. I don't know what we would be talking 287 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: about yet, but Marchie, I think fits um. I don't know. 288 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: There's a lot of days of training camp. You're looking 289 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: for some Marchie, Marchie and Mickey come on the podcast. 290 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: I love it, you know, I did notice forty one. Yeah, 291 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: quar I didn't do anything. I mean, they were going, 292 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: but I saw his size and his movement. Yeah, but 293 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: there was just basically drills, and I thought it was 294 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: I thought it was about time they did this rookie 295 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: mini camp when I didn't want to see guys pull 296 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: hamstrings and sprain ankles and hurt their shoulders diving for passes, 297 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: which you know, you sort of hope they back off 298 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: on the OTA's too. You're you know, you're not gonna 299 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: you're not making the Pro Bowl and the OTA. But 300 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: guys start competing and they're diving for balls they don't 301 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: have shoulder pads on, and you get hurt. That's that's 302 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: a good point. There's two sides of it. They're not 303 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: ready for it. They haven't been working out and they're 304 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: trying to impress everybody, so they're going they're going one 305 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: hundred and ten percent when they should be going about fifty. 306 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: I heard, I can't remember who did it. One of 307 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: the coaches were yelling and might have been Garrett, I 308 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: don't know. It was like, hey, we're going half speed here, 309 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: kind of slow down. Let's let's just get it right. Well, 310 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: and you think about the way these guys trained for 311 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: the draft. It's way different than football at all. It's 312 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: a different conditioning. It's not fair to them to come 313 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: out here and be like, Okay, I know you've been 314 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: doing forty drills for the entire office. He's go ahead 315 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: and do this. So yep, I think Mickey's right. It's 316 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: a good way to kind of transition them back into 317 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: that get used to it. Although when looking at all 318 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: these guys, let's not overlook the obvious. The guy that 319 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: had the two fives on his chest looked like a 320 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: middle linebacker. To me. It was just how the five 321 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: stood out on the front of his jersey. Yea, uh, 322 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: he looks better in a jersey. He looked good in 323 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: a suit, all right. He looked like a football player 324 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: in that that jersey. Next, well, I think that with 325 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: Layton vander esh Again, it's the size, like you mentioned, guys, 326 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: is there. It's deceptive too, but it is it is. 327 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: And the thing about him is, though, let's see how 328 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: he if the instincts. Because I love the guy in coverage. 329 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: I think he's going to help you as one of 330 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: those you know, can he be a three down player. 331 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: I think he's got that kind of ability to be 332 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: a three down player where he's gonna have to it's 333 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: going to be the take on. For as big as 334 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: he is. You do see some times where he gets 335 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: hooked up on blocks and he's got he's gonna have 336 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: to watch. Sean Lee's got to learn from Sean Lee. 337 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: Sean Lee doesn't get blocked because he's have the instincts. 338 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: Sean Lee's got the ability, but he's got instincts. He 339 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: knows how to read plays and get away from blocks. 340 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: If Layton vander esh develops that, then you've got You've 341 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: hit on a guy. You've totally hit on a guy. 342 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: The only question I have on when they put on 343 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: the pads, will he be able to consistently get away 344 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: from blocks? That's going to be his The one thing 345 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: you need to keep an eye on. Well, if you 346 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: keep an eye out for a series that Kent has 347 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: been working on, and we asked him last week, what 348 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: does he want people to think of him when he's 349 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: done playing, and he said legendary. H So he hopes 350 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: to be consistent for either brand. We're taking a lot 351 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: of fan calls and questions today. We're going to take 352 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: our first break. Well, when we come back, we want 353 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: to hear from you guys. 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Thank you, Rob, wait it go Rob? 401 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: Thank you? All right? Well stop it. I found another 402 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: activity they're good at. Oh no, Tommy John's yeah. Walking 403 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: around the jazz festival in New Orleans. Yeah, when it's 404 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: eighty five degrees you were there, I was, Oh man, 405 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: I wish I would have seen photos jazz beats. I 406 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: probably have some million is dread song. Oh did you 407 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: wear a dread hat? Dread hat? No hat? No hat, 408 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: no hat. That's why it looks think my forehead. So 409 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: that's why it looks like a brownie every time you 410 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: see him. Mickey, please please wear a hat. I want 411 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: him to live long and and no skin stuff. I 412 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: listened to Chris Rochard's cousin, Zachary Rochard. Oh really, No, 413 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: they're not really. Oh. I was like, wow, Mick going 414 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: deep dived in over there? All right, Well, you were 415 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: just telling us, Mickey about how great Layton vander ash 416 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: looks in his fifty five jersey. Did he get a 417 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: chance to look at Chris Covington, the guy who ever 418 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: ends lining up as your will. I did like what 419 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: you see there too. The neck tats. I can't. I 420 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: can't reveal my poll vote too early for that. Save it. Okay, 421 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: he looked like he could play linebacker. Might have been 422 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: because he's wearing Hitchin's number. You know. Hitchins was just 423 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: a baller when he was here. But I watched some 424 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: of the Indiana Iowa. Yeah, big ten connection. Uh, he 425 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: had some pop to him. He does drills, he does. Yeah. 426 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: I liked what I saw from He's got length and 427 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: he's got size, and he looks like he's strong. He 428 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: wore number four at at Indiana, which is here here. 429 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: He was a what I would say it was a 430 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: high school quarterback coming in and then they converted him. 431 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: But you're right, Rob and Mickey were saying this, the 432 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: guy's got some pop to his hands. You know, when 433 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: you watch him played Indiana, he was like a kind 434 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: of a run hit linebacker void and get to the football. 435 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: But he but the take on stuff. I was thinking, Okay, 436 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: he's not going to be as good at this, you know, 437 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: can you when you watch like you watch Kyle quar 438 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: Quaro has not doesn't have an idea of being a 439 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: converted safety about how to strike. You know, that's something 440 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: that scouts always talk about the ability to strike and 441 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: extend and and I'll tell you this, Covington's got that. 442 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: He's got that ability to sink his hips, to to 443 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: take those hands pushed through and it's got some pop 444 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: to him. So I was pretty impressed by that. I 445 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: think the I think Mickey's absolutely right about that, Rob 446 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: what he said as well, and go ahead, No, I 447 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: was gonna say, I want to hold your pull, so 448 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: we don't have to get into all of that. But 449 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: what were you gonna say? Well, I just think maybe 450 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of an upside factor with him, 451 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: a little bit yeah, um, maybe just from a comfort 452 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: level instinctive because he came to Indiana as a quarterback 453 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: and he actually played. I think some games at quarterback 454 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: is freshman year, so uh maybe he there's still an 455 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: elevation level for him on defense as a linebacker. You know, 456 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: he looks like a linebacker. He doesn't look like a 457 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: quarter Yeah. You you you watch It's seriously, you watch the 458 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: Indiana film and he it's not hard to find number 459 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: four on the field because he is around the ball 460 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: quite a bit and he got a nose for the ball, 461 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: runs really really well. That's something I would you know, 462 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: going back, if you look at my scout report in 463 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com about him, one of the things 464 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: that the running ability was really really good. I could 465 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: see why they drafted him the way or where they did. 466 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: You're looking for trades, he's got that ability. Yeah. We'll 467 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: get into more rookie talk soon. But a piece of 468 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: news that broke last week about the Cowboys defensive tackle 469 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: Millie Collins, of course a broken left foot. Garrett says 470 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: he expects him to come back for some training camp. 471 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: It just feel bad for the guy. You know, this 472 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: was a guy, Brian. Last year you were kind of 473 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: certainly as a possible Pro Bowl Yeah, sure, guy, And 474 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: it's okay because you know, he showed up in training camp. 475 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: He had a great training camp. I was I was 476 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: really happy about him, guys. And you know, I thought, 477 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: when you watch him, if you could win one out 478 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: of every four rep against Zack Martin, you're doing pretty good. 479 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: And that's what he was doing. He was winning one 480 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: out of every four. And you know, if you talk 481 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: to Zack Martin, Zack Martin saying, hey's the one guy 482 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: that gives me problems, and yeah, he's going through that 483 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: the bag drill. He's making a spin move, he plants 484 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: the left foot and bam, there it goes. And so 485 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, I guess three hundred pound men are not 486 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: made to go through bags and spin and do all 487 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: that stuff. But it's it's a drill they do. And unfortunately, 488 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see if he's back at health, you're 489 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: ready to go. He doesn't miss games. That's something to 490 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli said about him. He goes, hey, this guy 491 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: gets hurt, but he doesn't miss games. And but he 492 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: it was unfortunately last year because he did play hurt 493 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 1: the majority of the season, and I was thinking, thinking, man, 494 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: there's gotta be something's up with him. He had a 495 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: stress reaction in that left foot. Yeah, Nick, same same deal. 496 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: He got a clean up surgery in January, and obviously, uh, 497 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, a reinjury. I guess as if you want 498 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: to call it, Well, what happened was he? I mean, 499 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: he fractured the fifth meta tarsol, right, So he fractured 500 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: the fifth metatarsol his rookie year on his right foot, 501 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: had the stress fracture his second year on his left foot. 502 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: They did the surgery, he fractured it again. I was 503 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: told that they were fortunate that the screw they put 504 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 1: in to help with the stress fracture didn't crack. Uh. 505 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: So this time around, Uh, they're thinking about putting a 506 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: bone graph in. They're sort of like they did with 507 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: Dez and and so they're going to be very conservative 508 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: on how soon he comes back. Uh. You know, I 509 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: asked the question about we keep seeing in all these 510 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: fifth metatarsals fracturing shoes. It's like, what's the deal. So 511 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: he he he had the fifth metatarsal in the right 512 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: foot two years ago and the left and left. Dez 513 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: had the fifth right. Terrence Williams dealing with it right now, 514 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: Dez did it? Somebody is somebody else on defense? Uh, 515 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: fractured their fifth metatarsal. And that's the answer I got. 516 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: Everybody wants comfortable shoes, light shoes, but they're not good 517 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: for your structure of your foot to protect it when 518 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: you roll it to the side. They're also saying, the 519 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: way this turf is now too as sticky as it is, 520 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: your shoe hits in the turf and your foot immediately 521 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: slides in the shoe, and so you have where the 522 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: where the violence of the going against the shoe will 523 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: break bones. And it's just stepping. Because wasn't like they're 524 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: doing anything weird. When I fractured mine, mine was stupid 525 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: because I jumped up in the air and I turned 526 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: around to look to see if the ball was out. 527 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: What were you doing playing tennis? Oh? The ball went 528 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: over my head. And so instead of I'd let it 529 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: go right and instead of just coming down, I turned 530 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: around quickly point your finger as out, Mickey, don't don't 531 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: jump up in the air, turned just put your fingers 532 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: straight out. Foot didn't come down flat, and you roll 533 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: it to the side, and I'll tell you what. It's 534 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: a little bone, but boy does it hurt. Well? You 535 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: and your Stansmith's that day by Stanish. By the way, 536 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: those Stan Smiths that you and I used to wear, Yes, 537 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: they're now like one hundred dollars shoes. Back in the 538 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: day they were like eighteen bucks leathers. Wear him out, 539 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, you get another pair, yes, Stan Smith Terrence 540 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: Williams obviously. Um, I don't know if you guys saw 541 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: the awesome photo of him in a tight eye shirt 542 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: wearing his boot. You know, what's his update with his 543 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: foot injury. You know somebody else helped. I just saw 544 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: him walking off the field today. He wasn't He wasn't 545 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: in a booth. I think he was walking. You're probably 546 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: looking at training camp to really get in. They're not 547 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: gonna let him do anything. Yeah, i'd I'd be surprised 548 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: if he did a lot this offseason, But they don't 549 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: like week one. That's what they're looking at. And I 550 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: don't think there's a concern there for him on that. 551 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: And you know, I think week one is what you 552 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: look at from Ulie Collins too. But I think Mickey 553 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: brought up a good point. This is two surgeries on 554 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: the same foot this year, so I would be tentative 555 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: with timelines with him. I mean, you look at three 556 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: months or whatever. But you gotta make sure that thing 557 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: stays healthy. Yeah, these trainers do a heck of a 558 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: job of putting these guys back together, Doctors, trainers, getting 559 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: him rehab in all. But let's think about this guy's 560 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. We're gonna get to the end, 561 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: and now we're talking about our guys going to be available. 562 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: You know, is William's going to be available? Is MALIEK. 563 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: Collins gonna be that's two roster spots right there, right, 564 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, you might have to Okay, they're gonna have 565 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: to go a little long here, a little long there. 566 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: How many tight ends are gonna keep? How many quarterbacks? 567 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: We think three? So we're already running back, Yeah, you're 568 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: now two. You're potentially two in the hole on guys, 569 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to keep on the fifty three, you know, 570 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: because of injuries and stuff. So you don't want to 571 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: go into a season with that kind of you know, 572 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: with that kind of bagging down, you're dragging down your 573 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: roster a little bit. There's a good chance both of 574 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: them may start training camp on pop right, just a 575 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: week so they can get them in condition before they 576 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: say okay, it's time to have football. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, 577 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: you know you're looking at the team and overall your 578 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: knock on wood, like Mickey saying, they're doing the right 579 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: things with Rocky Minning camp, and we're hoping for the best. 580 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys got to listen to yesterday, 581 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 1: of course, the new Monday Night football commentator Jason Witten 582 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: is on Adam Schefter's podcast and he thinks Dez Bryant 583 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: is going to the Packers. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, I talked 584 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: to some folks in Green Bay and did a true story. 585 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: But they drafted they drafted three, Uh, they drafted three 586 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: guys that they're very happy with, the Missouri kid being 587 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: one of them though. So yeah, mister hands more, Yeah, 588 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: I feel that he drops the ball too much. Fifth 589 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: or sixth round pick. Yeah, they've got They've got three 590 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: receivers that they're really really happy with. I kind of 591 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that they would be. I'm 592 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: just gonna fight through it, Mickey, And you know, the 593 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: San Francisco and New Orleans just make too much sense 594 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: to me right now. You know, it does talks about 595 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: it's still the wounds of going to Green Bay. I 596 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: again talking to Green Bay. Folks, they're happy with their 597 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: young receivers and they've got some veteran guys there. I 598 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: know they got rid of Jordy Nelson and stuff, but 599 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: they're happy with the guys they have. So I just 600 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: don't see him going to Green Bay. I think New 601 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: Orleans San Francisco would be in play. Can't please cut that, miss, 602 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: mister hands hands. Yeah, I thought Baltimore would be a 603 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: great fit. Actually was. Yeah, And like, I don't blame 604 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: him for maybe wanting to bet on himself with a 605 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: one year deal if in fact, okay, they're offering a 606 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: multi year deal only or something. But you know, strong 607 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: head coach, solid quarterback, good organization, you know. But hey, 608 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: if you say in New Orleans, strong head coach, good organization, 609 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: hall of fame quarterback, that might work. I think did 610 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: Sean Pate would have an idea of how to use him. 611 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: I say that, and I think the guy in San 612 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: Francisco would have an idea how to use him. He 613 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: used Julio Jones. If Dez goes to New Orleans, he's 614 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: Marcus Colston. To me, we all remember Marcus Colston and 615 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: how he big receiver didn't have to run a lot 616 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: of routes. Everything was in the middle of the field. 617 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: Stuff was going on on the outside, but he was 618 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: always work in the middle of the field, between the linebackers, 619 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: over the top of the linebackers, between the safeties, always 620 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: kind of hitting that middle field. What are Dez Bryant's 621 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: best routes? Anything in breaking anything. San Jay Lyle even 622 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: said this about him other day. He says, he an 623 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: elite slant runner, but everything else is a little bit, 624 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, a little bit shaky. But anything that was 625 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: going inside was going to have a chance. And I 626 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: think that's where Sean Payton would have an idea about him, 627 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: how to use him in that Marcus Colston role of 628 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: a big guy that can work the middle of the field, 629 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: especially if you're not paying him twelve million dollars base salary. Now, 630 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: is that that's appealing to most Yes? Yes, now it's 631 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: got to be appealing to him. Were surprised that Sanjay 632 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: Lyle said he'd never met with Does Bryant while he 633 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: was here. Well, I was just timing wise, Yeah, I was, 634 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: But if you think about it, wasn't around right. But 635 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're Does Brian and your Sanjay Lyle, 636 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: don't you say, a big fellow, let me, let's let's 637 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: get together and have some lunch over here at the facility. 638 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: How about if I meet you somewhere and we just 639 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: kind of talk a little bit, right, He said he 640 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: never got a chance to meet with him until the 641 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: very end, until it was already said and done, and 642 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: he was hired in January. Right, Yeah, he was one 643 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: of the first highest. He was one of the first highest. Sure, 644 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 1: it was sure. It was just surprising to me at 645 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: the time, and they probably made up their mind that 646 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: they were going to do what they were going to. 647 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: If I was Dez, I would have requested, Yeah, I 648 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: would have just walked in and say, hey, what's up, coach? Yeah, 649 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: I think I think if you have a new coach, 650 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: you'd want to come in and meet him. Anyway. Myself 651 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: could be on the player, could be on the organization. 652 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: It's two way street. I mean I read something that 653 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: while he was out of the country or whatever, but 654 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: you for three months and two months you do kind 655 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: of get the feeling. I mean, they didn't ultimately make 656 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: the decision till April, but that they were leaning towards 657 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: this way back They told Sanjay Lyle. Here, here's Dez's 658 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: tape evaluate him. He says, okay, elite, slant runner, everything 659 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: else needs to have work to him, And maybe that's 660 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: where they made the determination with that, with that assessment. Yeah, 661 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: I was more surprised to hear Jason Witten news but 662 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: Dez bryant writings seemed to be on the wall. But 663 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying, just meeting with your coach. Yeah, well, 664 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: I think the thing with with Witton and you know, 665 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: he's got a he's surely he's got some insight. That's 666 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: what's going on. Like Witnes has sources now like he's 667 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: a reporter, I got higher range. It is strange. Oh, 668 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,479 Speaker 1: I think he just looked at it and said, hey, 669 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: green he's trying to find He's trying to find back 670 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: shoulder throwers to him. Yeah, if you talk about you know, 671 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: let's talk about the teams we've all mentioned. You you 672 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: show up in Green Bay, you're getting one of the 673 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: best of the best. You show up in New Orleans, 674 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: you're getting one of the best of the best. You 675 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: go to San Francisco, you got a shot at a 676 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: guy that could be one of the best of the 677 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: best it's all said and done. I mean, it's not 678 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: like he's showing up in a place like Arizona where 679 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: they don't have an established quarterback that he well, okay, Bradford, 680 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, you know, yeah, yeah, give me 681 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: somebody that's gonna help me elevate my game and to 682 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: try and do that. And I think the places that 683 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: we all mentioned were the ones that make the most sense. Absolutely. 684 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: The only thing I see with Green Bay, though, you 685 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: see some offseason controversy with Aaron Rodgers being mad, he's 686 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: not getting communicated to, you know, he's not hearing from 687 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: the front office about the Jordan Nelson decisions, and then 688 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: of course the whole narrative that's fallen followed Dez is 689 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: the passionate. Yeah, but they've changed, they've changed general managers 690 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: in green Bay. That that that is something that Rogers 691 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: might not have a relationship with with Brian Gudicus how 692 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: he had with Ted Thompson. Just gonna take a little 693 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: time where Brian is going to have to come in 694 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: and say, hey, listen, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Aaron, this 695 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: is what we need to do. I'm you know, I'm 696 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: sure that there was some thought given to about draft 697 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: picks and things like that. They drafted three wide receivers. 698 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has to be a little bit happy about that. Desney, 699 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: So mister hands except all right, Well, the guy fumbled 700 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: the ball through the end zone twice for touchbacks. Okay, 701 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: running in the open field, Missouri problems do mean nothing 702 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: to me right in front of him where I was 703 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: sitting in the state. I'm sorry, Mick. Luis Ortiz has 704 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: a question for you. Guys. We brought up, of course, 705 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: Malik's injuries, and they said, do you think price ash 706 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: Jaheed or my pick d Q? From what I've seen, 707 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: we'll fill in. Uh, you know, Brian, I've talked about 708 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: the q DQ. Who are you? I don't know who 709 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: they're meaning here? And police tell us who DQ is? 710 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: Jehad Ward to Clinton? Uh yeah, the kid from Oklahoma Stake. Yeah, 711 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: I don't know. I forgot his last game. Who he um? 712 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: Jehad Ward's interesting to me. I don't know exactly what 713 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: the fit is for him in a four to three 714 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: because you look at his build and his body type. 715 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: He's probably more of a you know, a five technique, 716 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: and that's true four, but maybe he can fit in 717 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: as a three technique. Well, actually that's what he played 718 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: at Oakland, but the Cowboys think he's a defensive tackle. 719 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: Rob Marnoi said this. Rob Marnoi coached him in the 720 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and he said he was a tick slow 721 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: coming off the ball, and he goes, then I stuck 722 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: him inside and it was just became natural for him. 723 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: He goes, I guarantee they're gonna play this kid at tackle. 724 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: It too, ninety six pounds, he's a tackle. He's gonna 725 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: play tackle. He's gonna play he's gonna play the three. 726 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: They're gonna try him at the one. Let's always think 727 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: about this guy, as we always bring this up, if 728 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: you have one, if you're one technique with three technique traits, 729 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,479 Speaker 1: they're gonna love you. If you're not. I mean, because 730 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: Hankins was a name that people are throwing what about 731 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: Hankins played the Giants, played the Colts. He does not 732 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: have three technique traits. They're just not gonna do that. 733 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: So don't If you see a guy that has those 734 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: potential traits, then that could be a guy. But they've 735 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: got to figure out what's going on with that with 736 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: the tackle spot because they lost the other day, you know, 737 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: losing us. Yeah, McClain that that that. I think that 738 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: hurt them a little bit. I've probably felt like that 739 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: they were going to have an opportunity there and it 740 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: didn't materialize that way. One year, four million dollars. It 741 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: looks a little like, you know, I mean, when Collins 742 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: was at his absolute best, he was playing with Throll 743 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: McClain next to him, and I kind of thought that 744 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 1: was going to be a combination we're gonna see also 745 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: with David Irvin playing a little bit inside as well. 746 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: So unfortunately that's not going to be the case. We'll 747 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: get to see him down the road here somewhere in Atlanta. Yeah, 748 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: my understanding was it shouldn't have been about money. One year, 749 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: four million dollars, like it was his choice to go 750 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: somewhere else. I got the point. I got the feeling 751 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: that they had they were holding him, holding him, holding 752 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: him that he was going to sign and then, but 753 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: the conversation wasn't mutual back and forth. So once they said, okay, 754 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: we know anything done, let's go to Atlanta, and then 755 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: Atlanta just jumped in quickly with what they were able 756 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: to do because he had visited I believe Miami. He 757 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: had also visited San Francisco Dallas, so he took four 758 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: visits and the last one he went to was the 759 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: one he ended up signing. Usually when guys leave the building, 760 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: it's not a great sign. Who was surprising, Alan Herners? 761 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: Get deal, got done? Yeah, after he left, All right, well, 762 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: let's take our funal break here. 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Because that pizza tastes so great ingredients. 804 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: It's like the veggies delivered fresh hole and ever frozen, 805 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: and the pepperoni one pork and beef made for us 806 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: meaning Papa and made to us DA standards with absolutely 807 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 1: no fillers. With ingredients like that, you have better pizza. 808 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 1: And it's Papa John's getting hungry. I am, I haven't 809 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: hit pizza in a while, getting hungry, all right, Rob, 810 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: we hinted at it. I don't think Mickey has his vote, 811 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: but oh he did vote today. How do you know 812 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: so special because you tweeted about it as I tweeted back, 813 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: my heart is full when you thanks vote on the Twitter. 814 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: Hopefully everybody else did too. Yes, Well, let's let's check 815 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 1: your see how smart the people that voted our simple question, 816 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,760 Speaker 1: which late round selection in the Cowboys draft is a sleeper? 817 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: We talked about Chris Covington. We didn't mention Cedric Wilson, 818 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 1: wide receiver, crowded group, or the final pick in the draft. 819 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: Both Scarborough out of Bama, first Bama pick they've had 820 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: in seventeen years. I think people know most about Scarborough. 821 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: I think they probably voted. I think people watched enough 822 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: Alabama tape and they see this, this tank running the 823 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: football wearing number nine, so I think they probably would 824 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: vote for him. He does look like he could have 825 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: been out there with vander esh over the weekend linebackers. 826 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: For sure. I didn't realize Wilson's numbers were so high. 827 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: Press absolutely absolutely, I voted for Covington just from the 828 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: eyeball test. Fair well, Brian's right bow. Scarborough fifty eight percent, although, hey, 829 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 1: you gotta find a way because Zeke's gonna play ninety 830 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: five percent of the snaps, and Rod Smith's the guy 831 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: they like, and Tavon Austin might be a running back 832 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: up We're not sure. And Neil might be your fullback, 833 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: but hey he might. He's gonna have to. If he's 834 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 1: gonna make the team, he's got to play special teams. 835 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 1: And I guess most true, most Alabama guys do play 836 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: special teams. I don't know how involved he was in 837 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: that when he was there. Um he's a backup running 838 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: back when he was there. Actually he's big. Could he 839 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: be your next Keith Smith? I mean, I know they're 840 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: kind of doing this experiment with with Louis Neil, but 841 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,760 Speaker 1: the body time can move Louis Neil back to tackle 842 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: because of the injuries. Okay, so we're looking at ye 843 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: any bodies, well they need a nose tackle. Yeah, that's true. 844 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: I need you out there. I'll say this though, Scarborough. 845 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: Scarborough is going to get every Kerry in preseason. Just 846 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: get ready for that. But I think he's going to 847 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,359 Speaker 1: have to figure out a couple of things. Like Rob said, 848 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: he actually they put him at left wing on the 849 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: punt team, and I think that's a good start, just 850 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: to say, okay, young man, you can't take a rest 851 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: during I'm sure at Alabama he was over there by 852 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: the water cooler, you know, having a laugh and a 853 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: glass of water while the guys went through special teams. 854 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: So he's gonna have to play special teams. I feel 855 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: like though that he's going to have to develop a 856 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: little bit better catching the football, I you know, being 857 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: a little bit more consistent with the hands the pass block, 858 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: and he's going to have to learn how to do that. 859 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: That's something he never really did at Alabama. He's gonna 860 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: have to develop those two things. But if he's gonna 861 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 1: be on the forty six make this football team, he's 862 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: gonna have to play special teams. And the quicker they 863 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: can get him acclimated to that, and the quicker they 864 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: can see how he's gonna function in that, the better 865 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: off we'll know. We'll know, like after the second preseason game, 866 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: whether he's gonna make this football team or not. In 867 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: my opinion, we will Gary Gary Brown had two guys 868 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,959 Speaker 1: to coach for three days. Yeah. The other guy's pretty 869 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: big too. Now yeah Troy running back as a chun 870 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 1: It's Chun. Yeah, yeah, Jordan Chun. Those are big boys now, 871 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: yeah schun Is I mean Sun When you watch him 872 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: at Troy, Now there's a guy that you hand him 873 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: the football. Always say this about backs that they're square looking. 874 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: When he hits the hole, hits it with some power. 875 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: But he tore up my LSU Tigers running the football 876 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: there this year. You know, physical and LSU is supposed 877 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: to have a good defense, and he was running through tacklers. 878 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: He was being physical and all that. You know, there's 879 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: another guy to kind of keep an eye on it. 880 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: You know, this team, I said it earlier, this team 881 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: has a history of having undrafted free agents make it. 882 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: And you know, he might be a guy that if 883 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: he if he does well enough in some certain roles, 884 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: if he in fact does play special teams, you know, 885 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: maybe he makes it and Bo Scarborough doesn't make it. 886 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: We'll see. I left Mike White off the pole. Tayause 887 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: looks like Blake Silverthorne looks exactly like Blake Silverthorne, like 888 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 1: a six five Blake Silverthorne or form producer. Great guy, 889 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: but he we have a good feeling about him. I 890 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: think making this football team and being a guy they 891 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: can develop like White. Yeah, I mean you can look. 892 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean we didn't see a lot, but you can 893 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 1: tell the ball. He's got zip on on the ball. 894 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: I think he's got some poise. Just kind of being 895 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: around him a little bit, he seems like a you know, 896 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: a guy that can make a transition. We'll see you 897 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: know how to answer questions. Yeah, that's kind of what 898 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: I mean, quarterbacks like the way part of the quarterbacks 899 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: got to know how to handle himself. But you know, 900 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: we'll find out more as we go along. All right, 901 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: you're talking about answering tions. I thought Dalton Schultz did 902 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: a good job. You listen to his interview. He's obviously 903 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: getting the million questions about Jason Witton handles it like 904 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 1: a pro. But I liked what I was seeing what 905 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: he was able to do out there, just kind of 906 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: his body, his movement. I think you guys, look at 907 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: the guys that have come out of Stanford. It's an 908 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: obvious tight end university as you'd call it. But sure, 909 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: I think he's ready to do something and he could 910 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: help lenahand Linahan hasn't had a chance to really work 911 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: with a new tight end in a long time. This 912 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 1: is my hot Ti Rico, this is my hot take. 913 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: He will be your starter opening day. Dalton Schultz will 914 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: be the starter opening day. I haven't seen anything, but 915 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't argue with that. Yeah, I mean we haven't 916 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: seen him play foot. Well, they might open up and 917 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: might open up in three. Why exactly, But I have 918 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: a feeling when we get when it's all said and done, 919 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: we get the opening day, you will have a rookie 920 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: starter at tight end, and Dalton Schultz, yeah, I could 921 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: definitely see that. I think Swain probably his experience gives 922 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,720 Speaker 1: him makes him probably the most competition for that spot. 923 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: But the transition, Hey mentioned Stanford, not only are they 924 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: good at producing tight ends, the system is very very 925 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: similar to this one. What they him to pro it's 926 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: a pro scheme is what it is there with my guys. 927 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: So the transition, the transition for him is not very still. 928 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: See the thing about it is to be an in 929 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 1: line why you have to have the ability to stick 930 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 1: your nose in there and block. And you know, it's 931 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 1: not like they're saying, Okay, listen, we're gonna make you 932 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: a flexed or detached player. Now you're gonna have to 933 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: block like Jason Winton. No, he already understands how he 934 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: has to block defensive ends. When you have courage enough 935 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,479 Speaker 1: to block defensive ends in college football, you can block 936 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 1: defensive ends in pro football. And I think that's where 937 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz I think he's got the ability. I think 938 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: he's got the athletic ability. I think he's got the temperament. 939 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: The Stanford kids might be just really really smart, you 940 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: know all that, but but they are tough. David Shaw 941 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,479 Speaker 1: recruits tough players. That's why always thought like, if somebody 942 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 1: who's next head coach National Football League? David Shaw? Where 943 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,800 Speaker 1: David Shaw learned from Harball? Well, his dad was a 944 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: pro coach, chapter right, but harball toughness. The forty nine 945 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 1: ers haven't been the same since Harball left there. That 946 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: was a tough, hard nosed football team. So David Shaw 947 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: the same kind of guy. He recruits players that way. Again, 948 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: BookSmart kids, smart on the field, they're tough, they're athletic. 949 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 1: He'll be a great fit for this organization. All I 950 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: gotta do is listen to Jason Garrett answered questions about him. Yeah, 951 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 1: and Jason usually doesn't tip his hand, but you can 952 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: tell sure he thinks this kid can be a complete 953 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: tight end. He can be a better receiver than they 954 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: utilized a man. Absolutely at Stanford. Plus, Stanford's had some 955 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the past that would have used him better. 956 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: The last couple of years, though they've struggled to have 957 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,439 Speaker 1: some consistency at the position. They've had some injuries, guys 958 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 1: have been knocked around, but they've had some guys like 959 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: Hogan was a quarterback they had there for a while. 960 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: Guy through the ball really really well. If if Hogan 961 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: had played with this kid, I think you'd have seen 962 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 1: him have some success. Plus, I like what his major was, science, 963 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 1: technology or technology science. He wants to develop video games. 964 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 1: He said, he's a big gamer. Yeah, and he said 965 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 1: that the thing that he hated about video games is 966 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 1: when he played him losing. No, they were always the 967 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 1: foot like doing the football games. The guys were always 968 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: better than him. Yeah, he said, he used to make 969 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: me mad. Yeah, so well good. I mean, Plexity Sports 970 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 1: is your new home. He just depends which side of 971 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: the building do you want to see. We'll see how 972 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: those shakes out with the kid at you know, Gil 973 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: Brandt and I were talking about, you know, the guy 974 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: that ended up Goddard. It ended up in the Philadelphia Eagles. 975 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: You know, the Eagles have had a pretty good ye 976 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: had a pretty good run of tight ends. But it'll 977 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: be interesting to see which which one because I think 978 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: that Schultz is a more complete tight end, but Dallas 979 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: Goddard is not. A bad player. I know some people 980 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: were there was like some second round tight ends that 981 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: Dallas Shirley could have that the Cowboys could have considered. 982 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: But they kind of had their eye on this guy. 983 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: They really really did. From the from what Mickey's saying, 984 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: from the complete aspect of in line, why pass catcher, 985 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 1: tough guy, staying in block, do whatever you have to do. Guy. 986 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 1: I know you guys don't have Nate Newton on this 987 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: show anymore. He's on hanging with the boys. But if 988 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 1: he wouldn't be on the show, he would be very upset. 989 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: We have yet to bring up Dorn's Armstrong's name, because 990 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 1: he has called him his pet cat of this draft, 991 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,800 Speaker 1: were you able to see anything, I know we're talking 992 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,800 Speaker 1: about a basic walk through practice. Yeah, Horn's Armstrong, the 993 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 1: guy out of Kansas. Yeah, and I'll answer sixty three, 994 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty nine pounds. When I watched him 995 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: play at Kansas, he was two hundred and forty five pounds, 996 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 1: and I would never I mean, he physically doesn't look 997 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,720 Speaker 1: sloppy out there at all. You think, Okay's fourteen pounds, 998 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 1: he's overweight. No, this guy is really really strong too. 999 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 1: One of the drills. I like what he was doing 1000 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: is they had a drill where they're trying to squeeze, 1001 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,919 Speaker 1: you know, like you're on the you're on the edge 1002 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: and you have to squeeze the hole. And so I 1003 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 1: mean extending an arm and then into the chest of 1004 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,439 Speaker 1: the blocker and pushing it down to squeeze the hole. 1005 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: And he had Leon Lett and he had leon Lett 1006 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: going backwards, and leon was trying to sit and but 1007 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, Armstrong was just kept working in back, working 1008 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 1: and back working in back and I'm thinking, Okay, the 1009 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: guy's got a little upper body strength to him, the 1010 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: long arm guy. The best thing about this kid is 1011 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 1: and at Kansas he played with violence. I mean you 1012 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 1: watch him rush the passer. He was relentless. I mean 1013 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 1: he people try and block him. It's swat, swim, it's grab, pull, 1014 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: it's slap, it's I mean, he was always on the move. 1015 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 1: The way he played no And you know there's some 1016 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 1: guys that will avoid and get you know, real small 1017 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: and turning all that this guy could chase from the 1018 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 1: backside to disruptive in the pocket. He's physical. They were 1019 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: going up in the third round. They weren't trying to 1020 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: trade back in for the safety more who we all thought. 1021 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 1: We were watching the draft on and full, We're like, oh, 1022 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 1: they're trying to get back in for to various more. No, 1023 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 1: it was Armstrong. They were trying to get back into 1024 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: the draft four and then they said, Okay, let's let 1025 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: this thing ride, and they let it ride and they 1026 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 1: got him in the fourth round. We'll see if it 1027 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: if it all works out for him, but they were 1028 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 1: really really happy to get the kid. I just saw, 1029 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: like I say, the upper body power from him pushing 1030 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: it was pretty impressive. Absolutely, he's sort of like Covington. 1031 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 1: He passed the eye test. Yes, now let's see what 1032 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 1: you do. He's a good looking kid. Football. Seventy looks 1033 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: like he can do it. Change that number when Yeah, yeah, 1034 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 1: they're not gonna give him seventy four, right, No one 1035 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 1: has that. No one should, No, no one should. There 1036 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: are a few numbers that should. Just eighty two goes 1037 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 1: away now for a while, maybe forever. Yeah, maybe for 1038 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: a while too. I think it's probably gonna arrest that one. 1039 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: I can see eighty eight coming back one day, but 1040 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 1: it's just not probably at the Lake Tay when that happens. Yeah, 1041 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: but they got to be careful because those eighties you 1042 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 1: start using them, I know, and receivers and have a 1043 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: bunch of guys in the teens. Hate to see a 1044 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 1: lot of wide receivers with teen numbers. And I think 1045 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: that's so weird that coventeen wore four. Yeah, it's just 1046 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,840 Speaker 1: weird to see the college numbers. Yeah, quarterback, he just 1047 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 1: kept it. Yeah, it is weird. So you know, we'll 1048 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 1: see the guys out there. We won't get a chance 1049 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,720 Speaker 1: to really look at ots until Wednesday. Yeah, every Wednesday 1050 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,799 Speaker 1: from every every Wednesday will have an opportunity starting next week. 1051 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 1: Starting next week, right right, we'll be able to do that. 1052 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 1: And then of course the three day mini camp and 1053 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: then followed with Cowboys you yeah, you out there. I mean, 1054 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: you know what. The thing, it's always funny, we I 1055 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 1: know people are ready for this because then we're not 1056 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 1: because we just kind of keep working. It seems like 1057 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 1: it gets closer and closer and closer. But when you 1058 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 1: get to this point, now it's going to start being 1059 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 1: training camp or be getting on a plane. Taylor be 1060 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: talking about Toby standing on the tarmact just sweating through 1061 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 1: a dress, talking about oh hey, here's so and so 1062 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: getting on the plane. You're so and so getting on 1063 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 1: the plane. You know, it's almost time, That's what I'm saying. 1064 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: Getting hot. Yeah, it gets you get to that June, 1065 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: that middle of June, and you're kind of like, Okay, 1066 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: it might be four weeks, but it feels like four days, 1067 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,839 Speaker 1: you know, when you do. I know everybody out there 1068 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 1: is ready for the season to start and all that, 1069 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 1: but folks, please just let us take a month off here. 1070 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: Let us let us just take a month off July. Yeah. Please, 1071 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: just let us go away, and I promise you will 1072 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 1: come back, will be better than ever. Please. Daniel says 1073 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 1: Bow is going to prove Brian wrong big time. Which way, 1074 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. It might be an Alabama Fam special 1075 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,439 Speaker 1: teams guy. Yeah, I hope. No, I'm not against Bow. 1076 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean I don't, I don't quite. I mean, I 1077 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: just been pointing out there's a reason why he was 1078 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 1: a seventh round pick. Let's be honest. You know, there's 1079 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: other backs that are more The Wildly kid from Iowa 1080 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: was a far more talented overall player than him, you know, 1081 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not against the kid. There's see 1082 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,439 Speaker 1: what he's gonna to do to make this football team. 1083 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 1: There's no illusions about what he is. And he described 1084 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,839 Speaker 1: himself draft weekend. He's a bruiser, He's a Dallas Hill, 1085 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit you in the mouth. Running back he 1086 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: is not. But in the in the in the line 1087 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 1: of alb Look at the Look at the number of 1088 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 1: touches he has as compared to Alabama running backs throughout 1089 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: history that have all that have all played in this league. 1090 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: Richardson and the kid down in uh in New Orleans 1091 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 1: and all that Ingram. Look at the history of those guys. 1092 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,720 Speaker 1: He has the least amount of touches of all those guys. 1093 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,800 Speaker 1: So the reason he was two hundred and something draft choice. 1094 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that. You know, I'm not against 1095 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 1: the kid. I'm just telling you what his potential, what 1096 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to do to make this team. I 1097 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 1: hope he I hope he proves I hope all these 1098 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,799 Speaker 1: kids prove me wrong. I don't j Yeah. Plus, they 1099 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: know everything they need to know about him, Saban and Garrett. 1100 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: I think that's why they drafted him. I think that's 1101 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 1: why they took him. Yeah, first time Jason has done that. 1102 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 1: Draft a Saban guy. But Yeah, he's got They got 1103 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,399 Speaker 1: the book on all the Sabama guys for sure. Yeah, 1104 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,840 Speaker 1: all right, Mickey Ramone wants to know quickly, what is 1105 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 1: your prediction on the starting old line, starting old line 1106 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,919 Speaker 1: left or right? Well, Williams is gonna win that job 1107 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 1: left guard. Yeah, yeah, see will Lele Collins stays where 1108 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,320 Speaker 1: he wants and Cameron Frons your swing tackle, Collins Martin, Frederick, 1109 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 1: Williams Smith, and he told us that's where he's working 1110 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,280 Speaker 1: so far as that. Yeah, Carl Williams, he's a straight 1111 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 1: focused guy. Yes, you know, if you talked to him, 1112 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 1: you're talking about good interview answers. He's just right there, 1113 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 1: perfect perfect team for him to play on with the 1114 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: way as a young guy stepping in with all those 1115 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,320 Speaker 1: all pros on this team. And you know what the 1116 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 1: good thing is, he knows it. Yep, he respects, not 1117 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 1: like he's coming in trying to big time and everybody. 1118 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,320 Speaker 1: He realized it's all and not to use the word cliche, 1119 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: but it's a privilege to play between Tyrant Smith and 1120 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 1: Travis Frederick. That will help him so much. If things 1121 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,760 Speaker 1: start to go a little bad for a couple of plays, 1122 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's got those guys kind of 1123 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: picking up his slack. There's nothing wrong with having those 1124 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 1: two guys and helping him out and double team blocks 1125 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 1: and you know, scoop blocks and things like that. They'll 1126 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: they'll get the kids. We have to remember he's transitioning. 1127 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 1: He was a tackle, so now he's moving inside. And 1128 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 1: and Frederick asked answered the question about what's Oh no, 1129 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 1: Martin did the transition from guarding tackle going inside? And 1130 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 1: he goes, it's just the fact that you're going to 1131 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 1: have somebody bull rushing you every plate. They're coming after 1132 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 1: you physically every plate. There's no finesse inside. Yeah. And 1133 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,839 Speaker 1: Dorn's Armstrong and Connor William saw each other a lot 1134 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 1: in college. Yeah, he did. He gave up one sack 1135 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 1: in his career, and I believe it was the Dorn's 1136 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,839 Speaker 1: Armstrong one sack. That's a great stat. And how did 1137 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 1: you find that out? I heard it from somebody. I'm 1138 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 1: not taking credit for that one, but yeah, someone said 1139 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 1: the one sack he had they gave up was to Armstrong. 1140 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 1: It's like a Dane Brugler stat. Maybe, Yeah, I said 1141 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 1: that Texas, Yeah might yeah, yeah, all right, Well, thank 1142 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,320 Speaker 1: you guys, for joining us today. Another great episode with 1143 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 1: these guys just bringing you the knowledge. Will have much 1144 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 1: more than you. Guys have a Chris Covington feature this week. 1145 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 1: We do, Kurtis, stay doing that. 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