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Speaker 2: I don't know how it happens every year. I really

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Speaker 2: really don't.

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Speaker 3: We sit here in the middle of Week nine, which

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Speaker 3: essentially means this is the halfway point of the NFL

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Speaker 3: regular season.

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Speaker 2: Kyle.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be that guy that says every

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Speaker 3: time it's a new month or it's a new year, boy,

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Speaker 3: where's the time go?

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Speaker 2: But where does the time go? This season is.

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Speaker 3: Already halfway over and really taking shape and looking forward

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Speaker 3: to chopping it up and getting into all of it

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Speaker 3: The way tire buying should be. Kyle, I know you've

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Speaker 3: heard this. I'm sure you felt this. The narrative in

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Speaker 3: sports media and throughout America, no matter what we're talking about,

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Speaker 3: is we build people up and then we knock them down. Right,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure on some level you felt that in your career.

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Speaker 2: Well, I hate to say.

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Speaker 3: This, but we've reached the knock them down phase when

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Speaker 3: it comes to the Miami Dolphins. While many of you

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Speaker 3: may have been sleeping, they were in Germany taking on

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Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs, which with what was their third real.

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Speaker 2: Big playoff level test so far this year.

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Speaker 3: In those three games, they're zero in three and so

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Speaker 3: we've built them up. They're wonderful for everybody's fantasy teams.

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Speaker 3: But I've yet to be convinced that the Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 3: are actually a contender in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: No, you're certainly right, Mark, and I feel like with

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Speaker 1: this Miami Dolphins team, we continue to talk about when

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Speaker 1: will they get over the hump, like when they go

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Speaker 1: meet the bully and the AFC, whether it be the

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Speaker 1: that they're going against. When when they meet that bully,

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Speaker 1: when are they going to finally step up and pass

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Speaker 1: this test. And you know, obviously they turned it around.

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Speaker 1: You know for us on the East Coast this morning,

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Speaker 1: turned it around coming out of the second half and

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Speaker 1: end of the game, only to end on uh, you

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Speaker 1: end a game that way. But you know, this this

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Speaker 1: Miami team, we talk about the high powered offense and

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting because I'm sure we'll get to it

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Speaker 1: at some point in the show tonight when we start

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Speaker 1: talking about the Kansas City Chiefs. So I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get too much into the Kansas City Chiefs here,

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Speaker 1: but just the way that that Steve Spagnola defense played

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Speaker 1: to me that they wanted Tyreek Hill to have one

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Speaker 1: It was against his former team, and it's like Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Hill goes crazy when Raheem Mozart's running for one hundred

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Speaker 1: but you know, you see Tyreek Hill, like he never

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no two ways about it. They were out

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Speaker 3: of sync the whole time. They were shut out in

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Speaker 2: Be back in the last game.

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Speaker 3: Again, I bet against it because that's just not the

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Speaker 2: So that's all there.

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Speaker 3: But I look at the Miami Dolphins and there's always

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Speaker 3: football team. By the way, your ex team, the Vikings

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Speaker 3: might have been the version of this last year. I

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Speaker 3: know they won a lot of close games, but they

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Speaker 3: were they good when they were going up against somebody weak.

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Speaker 3: You know, off the top of your head, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: All of them? They all of their wins are against

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they went up against Buffalo October first. They took

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Speaker 3: But they were by three touchdowns at the end of

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Speaker 3: of put a New York state of mind on them.

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Speaker 3: They're from Miami. It's not like this crazy intense fan base.

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Speaker 3: Their coach is the funniest comedict act in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: They've got tremendous speed receivers, and like I said, everybody

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Speaker 3: So everyone's having a blast. But is it real? I like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what. Like, we're having a good time,

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Speaker 1: Well, we've talked about this a few times. I know,

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Speaker 1: We know how that's gonna end. We've seen how that

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Speaker 1: the bully. There's always that bully that you got to

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Speaker 1: And until you go dethrone either the champion your division,

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Speaker 2: And so.

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Speaker 1: I believe in this Miami team. I like the pieces

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel is, I think he's a really good football coach.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I mean, like his offense is

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 3: And again, I'm not trying to make this sound like

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Speaker 3: I think he's fantastic. I just don't think they're there yet.

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Speaker 3: The Dolphins are the cliched relationship that you have on

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get too bogged down. I don't

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Speaker 3: is it great on a Saturday night. That is the

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Speaker 3: But if you want to get serious and you want

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Speaker 2: In February, I just don't think they're there yet.

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Speaker 3: There are too many pieces of the puzzle, namely on

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Speaker 2: But even I think running the ball in winter.

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Speaker 3: Like in a gritty sort of a way, ground and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think I mentioned that after they lost

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Speaker 7: and Lamb were tackled inside the five on the final

437
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Speaker 7: catch of the game, final play. So the Philadelphia Eagles

438
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Speaker 7: are one of those rare teams to lose the Super

439
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Speaker 7: Bowl one year and start eight and one or better

440
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 7: the very next year. That had only happened once since

441
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Speaker 7: the nineteen seventies. That was with Jim Kelly and the Bills.

442
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 7: One of those years in the early nineties, they lost

443
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Speaker 7: to Super Bowl, but came back with an eight and

444
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Speaker 7: one start the next year. Indianapolis a winner at Carolina

445
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Speaker 7: twenty seven to thirteen, Las Vegas thirty to six over

446
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Speaker 7: the Giants, who are two and seven, and Giants quarterback

447
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 7: Daniel Jones left with a possible torn acl MRI tomorrow.

448
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 7: He had just returned from missing three games with a

449
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Speaker 7: neck injury, and quarterback to Rod Taylor is already on IR.

450
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 7: Tight End Darren Waller X Raiders on IR josh Jacobs

451
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 7: in the win in Vegas two touchdown runs. He had

452
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Speaker 7: twenty six carries ninety eight yards. Minnesota got Joshua Dobbs

453
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Speaker 7: late TD pass off the bench and it win at

454
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Speaker 7: Atlanta thirty one to twenty eight. According to reports after

455
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Speaker 7: the game, Dobbs not only wasn't taking snaps from this

456
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 7: new center, as he was just acquired by the Vikings

457
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 7: this week. He doesn't even know the full names of

458
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 7: all of his teammates and he won them the game. Today,

459
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 7: Cleveland beat Arizona twenty seven nothing. The Cardinals had exactly

460
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Speaker 7: fifty eight yards of offense. Victories for Green Bay and Washington,

461
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Speaker 7: for Baltimore and New Orleans in the game in Frankfurt.

462
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Speaker 7: Kansas City held on twenty one to fourteen over Miami.

463
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Speaker 7: Next Sunday in Germany, it's Indy against New England. USC

464
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 7: fired defensive coordinator Alex Grinch today. The Trojans have lost

465
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Speaker 7: three of their last four, allowing forty six points per game.

466
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Speaker 7: In the past month, Ryan Blaney won the NASCAR Season Championship,

467
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Speaker 7: his first in the NBA. It's just gone Final at Cleveland,

468
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Speaker 7: the cab beat Golden State one fifteen one oh four.

469
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 7: The Warriors record was five to one. Steph Curry had

470
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Speaker 7: twenty eight points in three point range. He was seven

471
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Speaker 7: of eleven, but thirty one points on the winning side

472
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Speaker 7: for Donovan Mitchell. Victories for Toronto in overtime for Phoenix

473
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Speaker 7: as well. And then there's the San Jose Sharks. Mark Willard.

474
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Speaker 7: We spent much of the summer talking about the Bay

475
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Speaker 7: Area team that just gave us nugget after nugget of

476
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Speaker 7: how awful they were, and that was the Oakland A's.

477
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 7: We're already in that boat with the San Jose Sharks.

478
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 7: They don't play again till Tuesday, but they are winless

479
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Speaker 7: so far, zero to ten plus an overtime loss. Sharks

480
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 7: lost last night ten to two. They lost ten to

481
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Speaker 7: one on Thursday. In their first ten games, they had

482
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Speaker 7: only scored ten goals total, which tied for the modern

483
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Speaker 7: record worst start. So now it's eleven straight games without

484
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Speaker 7: a win to open a season. The record is fifteen

485
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Speaker 7: straight by the nineteen forty three New York Rangers. They're

486
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 7: already twenty two points back of first place Vegas in

487
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Speaker 7: the standings, which is undefeated.

488
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Speaker 2: At this point.

489
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Speaker 7: The Sharks are the first team in over fifty years

490
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 7: to lose consecutive games by at least eight goals each.

491
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Speaker 7: And this is the killer for me. This is a

492
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Speaker 7: team that was an expansion club in the early nineties,

493
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Speaker 7: so they've been around over three decades. They've had a

494
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Speaker 7: lot of home games in their history. Already, they had

495
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Speaker 7: only had two home games ever, losing by at least

496
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Speaker 7: eight goals. That's out of over thirteen hundred home games.

497
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Speaker 7: Their last two home games, both of them they lost

498
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Speaker 7: by at least eight goals.

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Speaker 2: Wow, back to you, I tell you what that goal.

500
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Speaker 3: I've been to a lot of hockey games in my life, Steve,

501
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 3: that goal's not big enough to fit twenty goals in

502
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Speaker 3: two games.

503
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Speaker 2: I don't know what they were doing.

504
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: I didn't watch these games, but my god, that does

505
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 3: not seem no.

506
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Speaker 2: Possible under any circumstance.

507
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Speaker 7: I was here working both of those nights and looking

508
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 7: at the score as the numbers kept going up, and

509
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 7: I came to the conclusion that they must have been

510
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 7: using a German shepherd in goal, because an actual major

511
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 7: league human, I don't know. This shouldn't happen.

512
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Speaker 2: No, no, it shouldn't, and it didn't. And I tell

513
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: you what, You're right.

514
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Speaker 1: It has been.

515
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Speaker 3: It's been a very very interesting year here in the

516
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: Bay Area with regard to the highs, the lows, and and.

517
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: Somewhere in between.

518
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Speaker 3: But it does feel like a little bit of a

519
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 3: down period right now, which which shouldn't right. I mean, like, Okay,

520
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: the Warriors lost a game the forty nine ers have

521
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 3: lost three in a row.

522
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, licking wounds right now.

523
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: Although, as you also know, you just broke that news

524
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: to many of the sports fans here in the Bay

525
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Speaker 3: Area who are completely.

526
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Speaker 7: Unaware it's nine or c it's Warriors, the.

527
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: Sharks are even playing exactly.

528
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 7: It is the definition of news.

529
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Speaker 2: Believe me.

530
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Speaker 7: It comes across our desk. Is it is man bites dog.

531
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Speaker 3: Good Stef Steve. We'll talk to you in an hour.

532
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: We're in the Tyrock dot Com studios. Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph. Look,

533
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: I expect fireworks in this Sunday night football game, and

534
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 3: nothing in this first half of the first quarter says

535
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Speaker 3: anything otherwise.

536
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Speaker 2: Kyle.

537
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Speaker 3: But here's what I want to get at. As we're

538
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: just watching the Bills with the ball for the first time,

539
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow on the opening drive six of six for

540
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Speaker 3: sixty five yards. That's if you watch the box score,

541
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Speaker 3: and that looks impressive. If you watch the game, it

542
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: gets even better. He is moving the way he used

543
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Speaker 3: to move. That injury is officially done and Joe Burrow

544
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Speaker 3: and the Cincinnati Bengals are officially back to who we

545
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Speaker 3: thought they were going to be at the beginning of

546
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Speaker 3: the year and this crowded AFC that has the Chiefs,

547
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: let's welcome the Ravens to the party. We know about

548
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: the Bills, the Jags are doing their thing. We've had

549
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: our conversation about the Dolphins. But this playoff in the

550
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 3: AFC when we get there, is just going to be

551
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: unbelievable because I just don't think there's gonna be any

552
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: of those first round freebies or six point favorites that

553
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 3: we think about. It's just going to be absolute heavyweight

554
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: versus heavyweight because these teams that were watching like these

555
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: are going to be the wildcard teams.

556
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: Maybe these guys will win their division.

557
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: I don't know, but that's gonna leave someone else to

558
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: be a wildcard who is every bit as good.

559
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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and the Bengals are back, man.

560
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Speaker 1: They are. I think that was the biggest takeaway from

561
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Speaker 1: the game last week at San Francisco, not how well

562
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Speaker 1: the Bengals played or how many points they scored against

563
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Speaker 1: a good forty nine Ers team. I think it was

564
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: how well Joe moved. I think that's been the biggest

565
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: thing that's hampered him in this offense so far to

566
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: this point in the season and when you watch him

567
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Speaker 1: play last week, that's the guy that we've been so

568
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: accustomed to seeing over the last few years with the Bengals.

569
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Speaker 1: And you know you mentioned it. This game is going

570
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: to have all kinds of fireworks, and through two opening

571
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: possessions for each team, it's been exactly that.

572
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh Allen just went the other way and that's

573
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: going to be a rushing touchdown. I think there's a

574
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Speaker 3: flag on the play, which might have been a taunting play.

575
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: I think this this might You tell me actually as

576
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Speaker 3: we're looking at this, is this a post possession deal

577
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: or or how does this work? Because he gave a

578
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: defender a little point on his way into the end

579
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Speaker 3: zone and they're gonna give Josh Allen an unsportsmanlike conduct call.

580
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: Is this after the touchdown? How does this work?

581
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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, the touchdown still counts and then it's

582
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: it's after and yeah, it's.

583
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna call it.

584
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Speaker 3: Sorry for a seconds, like hold on just now that

585
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: he just opened the door for this, I I there's

586
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: something I got to get off the chest and it's

587
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: it's it's not just this kind of stuff. Because Kyle,

588
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: you've been on an NFL field, You tell me when

589
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: there isn't taunting. My my perception is that happens.

590
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: On every single.

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00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: Play, right well, I I and trust me, there there's

592
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: things that we need to get out of the game.

593
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: There are plays that don't have a place in our game.

594
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: There are you know, things during and after a play,

595
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: but that's just not simply one of them. I mean,

596
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: like you're you're walking in the end zone after a

597
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: huge drive in a primetime game. It's just it's nonsense.

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00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: You know. I think, you know, making a tackle and

599
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: standing over a guy, you know, maybe that's different, you know,

600
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,239
Speaker 1: because you make the tackle and let the guy get up.

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00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: And I think there are certain acts that we can

602
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: decide that are taunting or not. But it's like, again,

603
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: I understand what they're trying to get out of the game,

604
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: but that that's just ridiculous.

605
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: No, that's ridiculous.

606
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: And then I don't know how much you've been tapped

607
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: in to all of these fines that have been getting

608
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: thrown around lately, and you'll see the highlights of these

609
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: plays and it'll be like, you know, Jalen Warren of

610
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 3: the Steelers is kind of the poster boy for this

611
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: at this point because it's happened to him two or

612
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: three times already. Because he's a very aggressive blocker. This

613
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: guy will will go plug up the hole and and

614
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: and deliver a little bit of a hit on his block.

615
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: And this guy, who's on a rookie contract, was not

616
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: a high level draft pick, is just getting dinged five

617
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 3: figures every time he throws a good block. It's absolutely

618
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: wild what's happening in the league offices right now.

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Speaker 1: He's getting fined what he makes for that game alone

620
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Speaker 1: a game. Yeah, And unfortunately that's been around, you know,

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Speaker 1: as long as I can remember being I was like

622
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: one of the first things that I got in the league.

623
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Speaker 1: And I start seeing these fedexes show up on Wednesdays

624
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: or Thursdays, and it's like, oh, that's a lot of money.

625
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: I don't care how much money you're making, that's a

626
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: lot of money. And unfortunately, there's just no like, you know,

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00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: I think we've talked about this before, there's no I

628
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: think it was when we had the Jerry Tillery hit

629
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Speaker 1: onh Man out in out in LA against Josh Herbert

630
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Speaker 1: and get him on the sideline, and then Diggs got

631
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: fined like fifteen dollars more for smashing beers together after

632
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Speaker 1: scoring a touchdown. It's like, like, what's the what's the

633
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: the sliding scale here on how we decide? Okay, you

634
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: you deliberately tried to take out one of the you know,

635
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: premiere players in Herbert in the NFL who you know,

636
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: you're a former teammate up there, some history there, everyone

637
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: knows it. And then you got a guy who's in Buffalo,

638
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: which it's like the most Buffalo thing ever to do,

639
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: to like grab two beers and smash them together. So again,

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Speaker 1: I just I wish there was a little bit more

641
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Speaker 1: of a sense of judgment used in some of these things.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm absolutely with you.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, while we're bringing up Pittsburgh Steelers,

644
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 3: there's another player on that team we need to bring

645
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 3: up because it was a little rough and tumble of

646
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 3: the Thursday night for him and I don't know exactly

647
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Speaker 3: where it's going to go next. Can't wait to talk

648
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Speaker 3: to you about it. We'll do that coming up next

649
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Speaker 3: with Kyle Rudolph. It's Mark Willard on Fox Sports Radio.

650
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Speaker 3: We're in the tyrag dot Com studios. That's Kyle Rudolph

651
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Speaker 3: I'm Mark Willard. What a perfect example tonight which leads

652
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Speaker 3: us into what happened on Thursday night. Now, I have

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Speaker 3: no idea what's going on inside the mind of Jamar

654
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: Chase right now. I do know that in Joe Burrow's

655
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: first eleven pass attempts, Jamar has not been targeted. Bengals

656
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: are moving up and down the field, and they are

657
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: almost exclusively throwing the football. Joe Mixon has three carries

658
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 3: for six yards at this point, but Burrow is moving,

659
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 3: he's shaken, he's throwing, and they might have just gone

660
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 3: in again. They're down inside the five right now at

661
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: this point, and make it now twelve pass attempts and

662
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase has not been targeted. Kyle, Should he be livid?

663
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: Should he scrub his Instagram? Should he leave the building?

664
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Speaker 3: Should he avoid the press tonight? Tell me what Jamar

665
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 3: would do? I know what George Pickens, if the Steelers

666
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: would do, what would Jamar do?

667
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 2: What would you do? Kyle?

668
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: Well, well, I'm not a receiver, so I don't have

669
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: the frustrated receiver book that most of these guys seem

670
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: to follow. But even you know, you think about earlier

671
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: in the season when the Bengals were struggling. You know,

672
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: it was Jamar in the press conferences. You know, I'm

673
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: always open. I'm always open, you know, because they kept

674
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: asking thembut, are you getting open? Are you getting open? No,

675
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm always open, but you know, getting to your point

676
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: with George Pickens, and you know, it's like the first

677
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: thing I say kids these days, you know, because yeah,

678
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: I had social media, but I feel like I was

679
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: on the other end of that generation. It's like you

680
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: get upset and then you delete all the pictures of

681
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: your team and you unfollow the team. Like this came

682
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: up last offseason when Diggs unfollowed the Bills and followed

683
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. It's like, that's really what we're We're judging

684
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: these guys' intentions off of now you know, their social

685
00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: media decisions, but like you, they know, you know, he

686
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: knew exactly what he was doing. If I delete all

687
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: the pictures and you know, I need to send a

688
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: subtle shot that says, hey, look, five targets, two catches

689
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: minus one yard, Yeah, that's not going to cut it

690
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: for me. So you know, what can I do over

691
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: the course of this long weekend to make sure that

692
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: everyone realizes I'm not happy even though we won, without

693
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: causing too much of a problem, because ultimately you always

694
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: want to make it seem like winning is what's most important.

695
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 3: Well, you can say that what can I do without

696
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: making too much of a ruckus. I don't think that

697
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: this didn't cause too much of a ruckus. There was

698
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 3: a basically a free Pickings type of a message on

699
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Speaker 3: his ig story.

700
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Speaker 2: It's not just that he scrubbed Instagram.

701
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 3: He left without talking to anybody after the game. There's

702
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 3: video when Deontay Johnson, who's been dealing with major injury

703
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 3: this year. When Johnson got lose for the what ended

704
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: up being the game winning touchdown in that game on

705
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: Thursday night, Pickens was on the other side of the

706
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: field and instead of even taking one step toward his

707
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 3: teammate for a high five or some sort of a congratulations,

708
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: he immediately turned around, ran to the sideline and kind

709
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 3: of sulked over on the bench. So you're right, we've

710
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 3: seen this a thousand times before, we'll see it a

711
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 3: thousand times more. My question is how did the Steelers

712
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: deal with it? Because it was a Thursday, so we

713
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: haven't really had a chance to dive too deep in

714
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: with Mike Tomlin to find out what the Steelers are

715
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: gonna do here.

716
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Speaker 1: I'd have to imagine if there's any leader of men

717
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: who will squash this immediately, it would be Mike Tomlin.

718
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just as good as it is, and well,

719
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: quite honestly, they've had a lot of practice at disgruntled receivers.

720
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Speaker 2: And no joke, I thought too.

721
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: It's not something new for him him. But you know,

722
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: I from Afar, I certainly don't believe there's anyone better

723
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: suited to handle a young man who's frustrated, wants the

724
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Speaker 1: ball more, wants to be involved more. Certainly, you know,

725
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is as good as anyone at leading these

726
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Speaker 1: guys and motivating them and just really getting through to them.

727
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Speaker 3: Doesn't always work, though, as you just referenced Antonio Brown

728
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 3: without using his name, and so it doesn't always smooth over.

729
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: You know, Juju plays Chapool Claypool. The list goes on

730
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Speaker 1: as of recent year, so.

731
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Speaker 2: We'll see, yep, yep, we definitely will.

732
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Speaker 3: The picking situation has kind of a dot dot dot

733
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Speaker 3: next to it, and questions to be asked early this

734
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Speaker 3: week when.

735
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Speaker 2: Everybody gets back to the facility.

736
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Speaker 3: The Atlanta Falcons defense has some questions that they may

737
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 3: want to answer as well. We'll talking about that amazing

738
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Speaker 3: performance coming up next on FSR.

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Speaker 2: They must have been running the hey you play. You

744
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: know what the hey you play is? Right, that's when

745
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 2: the quarterback looks at the guys in the huddle.

746
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: They doesn't even know their names. He says, hey, you

747
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: go over there and I'll throw it to you. That

748
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 3: must be what they were doing with the Minnesota Vikings

749
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Speaker 3: this afternoon. Kyle, I'm gonna need you to explain this

750
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: to me because I've heard from NFL players for years now.

751
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: You may, in fact even remember remember Deshaun Watson press conference.

752
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: This is before all of the controversies surrounding him, and

753
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: he was asked to basically read to the media what

754
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: it sounded like when he went through a play call

755
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 3: in the huddle. And it honestly, within ten seconds, unless

756
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: you know, unless you speak football, you were like, I

757
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: am no idea, what the hell this guy's saying, and

758
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: he was essentially letting everybody know the brains that it

759
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: takes to be able to run this show, and so

760
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 3: complex play schemes, and you got these deep play books,

761
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 3: and especially when you're the leader, you've got all these

762
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 3: different people and all their assignments, and you've got to

763
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,479
Speaker 3: be in charge of it all.

764
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Speaker 2: And so I'm to.

765
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Speaker 3: Believe that this is very, very intricate, and it's very

766
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: difficult to do. And then Josh Dobbs showed up and

767
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 3: he had been there for two seconds and he wasn't

768
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: even supposed to play today, and he did, and he's

769
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: running up and down the field, scoring game winning touchdowns

770
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 3: in the final minute of action.

771
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Speaker 2: How does something like that even happen?

772
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Speaker 1: So I also had read something that he didn't even

773
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: take a single offensive snap in practice this week. You

774
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: know it was got there. I think he got there Wednesday,

775
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: probably ran a lot of the scout team stuff, which

776
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: are the cards that you run for the defense. You're

777
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: essentially running Atlanta Falcons plays, which, as we all know,

778
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: really aren't passes down the field. We know the Atlanta

779
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: Falcons offense and how they operate. Extra offensive lineman, multiple

780
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: tight ends, a lot of running backs, so he was

781
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: running that offense all week.

782
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: And then.

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Speaker 1: My guess is whether it's Chris O'Hara the quarterback coach there,

784
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: maybe a QC like a quality control coach. Him and

785
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: Joshua probably were together at the facility well after everyone left,

786
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: and basically it's like, Okay, josh what are you comfortable with?

787
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: Give us fifteen plays that you recognize that we can call.

788
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: You know, you have to prepare. Obviously he was dressed,

789
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: so they knew there was a possibility he could go

790
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: in the game. And you almost have like this emergent

791
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: agency package for a guy who's been there for five days.

792
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: And one of the things that's interesting about Joshua Dobbs

793
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: is among the teams that he's been on and around

794
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: for a majority of the last couple of years, you know,

795
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: certainly the five teams is evident. He was in Cleveland

796
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: with Kevin Stefanski, and then he was in Arizona and

797
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: Drew Petsing is the offensive coordinator in Arizona. So the

798
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: common theme here is, you know, Drew was with Kevin

799
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: and Cleveland. So that's basically how Arizona was, like, hey,

800
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: trade for this guy. We know him, he knows the offense.

801
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: Get him out here. So they got him out there

802
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: when he got traded right before week one and then

803
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: came out and started, and then going to Minnesota, Kevin

804
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: O'Connell runs that McVeigh rams offense, which it's this whole

805
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: tree of Shanahan. You know, we had Kubiak as our

806
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: branch of the tree. So I guarantee there were principles

807
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: of this offense that he was familiar with. When he

808
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: got there on Wednesday and he had this fifteen to

809
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: twenty play package. It said, look, I'm comfortable with these.

810
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: We'll go out there. They're on his wristband so he

811
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: can read them off. They you know, give him the calls.

812
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: Most of the time quarterbacks in the game. They'll hear

813
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: the first two words of the play call and they

814
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: know the rest of the call. They're already, you know,

815
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: they've ran it five times that week. They can do

816
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: it inside and out. They know the play call forward

817
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: and backwards, and they go with it. As Josh mentioned

818
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: after the game, hey I didn't even know these guys

819
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: full names that I was in the huddle with. So

820
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: what he was able to do today and they the

821
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: Vikings didn't win in spite of Joshua dobs like the

822
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: plays that he made. You know, certainly his passing stats

823
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: from a yard standpoint don't jump off at you. One

824
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight yards, but he's twenty of thirty,

825
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: so incredible completion percentage. He throws two touchdowns, no picks,

826
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: his seven or his sixty six rushing yards which he

827
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: really rushed for like one ten if he watched his

828
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: runs like he scrambled all over the field to pick

829
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: up five yards, ten yards, a couple of big explosive runs,

830
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: twenty five yards. You know, what Joshua Dobbs was able

831
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: to do for the Vikings today was was pretty incredible.

832
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: And you know, here are the Vikings, a team that,

833
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: again everyone on the outside just writes off with the

834
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: injury that they had last week. We talked about it

835
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: on our show, just the somberness of that locker room

836
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: after their fourth win in a row. You know, then

837
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: they go beat an Atlanta team on the road to

838
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: win five in a row, and you know they're sitting

839
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: in the NFC playoff picture.

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Speaker 3: Five and four and it's the second year in a

841
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: row where I'm like, how the hell do the Vikings

842
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: have the record that they have.

843
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't understand it one bit.

844
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Speaker 3: If you're someone who watches the Red Zone channel, you

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Speaker 3: know that they do this thing right around. It's about

851
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 3: twelve fifteen my time in the West three point fifteen

852
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 3: east where they'll come on and they'll be like, Okay,

853
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 3: here we go. It's the Witching hour where losses become

854
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: wins and wins become losses.

855
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: And I was looking at the NFC South.

856
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: Witching Hour and it was intense, my man, absolutely intense.

857
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: Like the Tampa Bay Bucks found a way to let CJ.

858
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 3: Stroud go down the field with next to no time

859
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 3: lose a football game. Atlanta Falcons find a way to

860
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: lose a football game with Josh Dobbs learning the names

861
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: of his teammates in the midst of doing this. And

862
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: then the New Orleans Saints won a football game, but

863
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 3: they had a hell of a time shaking off the

864
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: Chicago Bears led by Division two. Tyson beajit like, I mean,

865
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: what is this division offering anyone right now? I know

866
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 3: that this happened seemingly every year or two where there's

867
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 3: a division where you're just like, come on, what are

868
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: we doing? So there's nothing to be said here in

869
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: terms of something to be done about it. But I'll

870
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: just go ahead and say this out loud right now.

871
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 3: Whichever team comes out of there, they will lose that

872
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 3: home game.

873
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 2: That they host.

874
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: That's the Dallas Cowboys are the team that is now

875
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: ticketed to go to one of those They did it

876
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: last year, They're gonna do it again this year. The

877
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 3: Cowboys will go to the home of one of those teams,

878
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: and then they will move on in the NFC playoffs.

879
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, whoever is the team that you know,

880
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 1: they'll they'll kind of all be up on each other.

881
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Tampa is now a game and a half

882
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: back at three and five. You know, we just talked

883
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: about Atlanta, and I think Joshua Dobbs is an incredible

884
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: story and that the Vikings going down there and getting

885
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: a win on the road to remain at the seventh

886
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: seed in the playoffs is an incredible story, winning their

887
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: fifth in a row. You know, team that started oh

888
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: and four now five and four. The Atlanta defense just

889
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: it's it's disappointing me because I feel like that's we've

890
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: talked about the Atlanta Falcons and how they're built, We

891
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: talk about their offense and the style that they play with.

892
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 1: It doesn't surprise anyone. You know what they're going to do.

893
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: You know how they're going to line up. They run

894
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: the football, they got big personnel on the field, but

895
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: their defense was supposed to be what allows them to

896
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: do that. And you know, they brought in a lot

897
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: of big time free agents this offseason, signed a lot

898
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: of veteran players, and the defense was what was supposed

899
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: to allow them to win this weaker division. And you know,

900
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: giving up thirty one points to a guy who got

901
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: there five days prior certainly isn't good for the Atlanta

902
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: Falcons defense. But you know, you you mentioned it. Whoever

903
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: wins the NFC South, somebody's going to have to win it.

904
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: As of right now, it's the Saints as the only

905
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: team with a winning record in the South, and you

906
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: know you'll have depending on how this shakes out, probably

907
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 1: most likely would be a team from the NFC West

908
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: or the NFC East going to the NFC South winner.

909
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: So we'll see.

910
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, look, look the way too early game,

911
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 3: We're we're about halfway there. That's that's a one playoff

912
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 3: to one playoff team division. I think the Lions are

913
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 3: going to be your winners. In the NFC North. We

914
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 3: know that the Eagles and the Cowboys have the look

915
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 3: of obviously playoff teams. And I think that the forty

916
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: nine Ers and probably the Seattle Seahawks too. These were

917
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 3: all playoff teams last year. When you look at the

918
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 3: West and East teams we're talking about, I think they're

919
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 3: all going also again. But that scenario I just laid out,

920
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: Kyle would need one more. Like the AFC is going

921
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 3: to be such a fight, and I think a great

922
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 3: team's gonna get left out. The NFC needs a party crasher.

923
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 3: Here we are at the halfway point. If I tell

924
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 3: you Niners and Seahawks will go, Saints will go, Lions

925
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: will go, Eagles and Cowboys will go.

926
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: Who's that other team?

927
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: Well, I think I mean they have to send seven. So, right,

928
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: like we talked about, somebody has to win the NFC South,

929
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: they also have to have seven teams represent and you

930
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: look at so right now the NFC playoff picture, the

931
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: Seahawks technically hold the tiebreaker over the Cowboys right now,

932
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: so they would be the five. Dallas is the six,

933
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: Minnesota is the seven, and after Minnesota there is not

934
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: another team with even a five hundred record. The Commanders

935
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: are at four and five, Atlanta's at four and five,

936
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: the Bucks are three and five, Packers, Rams, and then

937
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: you got Giants, Bears, Panthers, Cardinals. It's like, at what

938
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: point going up that list, do you see anyone that

939
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: strikes fear in an NFC playoff picture. I don't think so. Personally,

940
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: I think it's the Viking spot to lose.

941
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 2: Right, So they're five and four.

942
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 3: Four weeks ago we sat here and had a weekly

943
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: conversation about how they should trade Kirk Cousins because they're

944
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 3: not going anywhere now. Kirk Cousins is gone. Yet somehow

945
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 3: they're on a four game win streak. They've got themselves

946
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 3: to a winning record. In the back of your mind,

947
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 3: you know what we just said, Kirk Cousins isn't coming back.

948
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 3: So do you believe that team is going to the playoffs?

949
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: And well, let me, let me let me this, Yeah,

950
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: go ahead, they go ahead. They got so Joshua Dobbs

951
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: who and we talked about him when he was in Arizona.

952
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: He gave the Cardinals a team that we didn't think

953
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: he had a chance to win any game, and he

954
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: always gave them a chance to win. Now he'll actually

955
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: have a full week of practice as the starting quarterback

956
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,479
Speaker 1: of the Minnesota Vikings. They have the Saints at home,

957
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: they go to Denver on Sunday Night Football, the Bears

958
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: at home, and they go to Vegas as their next

959
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: four games. Talking about the minute, are we talking about

960
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings potentially having won eight in a row?

961
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I.

962
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: Don't know about that, but they're not gonna lose all

963
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: four in a row. I know that there are wins

964
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: in there.

965
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't see I would assume that probably

966
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: the favorite in all of those games, Oh my gosh. Maybe.

967
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows what the Raiders do with the

968
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,959
Speaker 1: the head coaching change, and you know that at times

969
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: can kind of spark a team. Uh, you know, certainly

970
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: I don't know that today is an endi indication of

971
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: that or circumstances with the other team. But who knows

972
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: what happens with the Raiders. But you know they they

973
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: the Bears. They'll be that's at in Minnesota. They'll be

974
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: favored at the Broncos. I don't know, maybe that's the

975
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: toss ups going out there. I'd assume they'd be favored.

976
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. It'll it'll be interesting, certainly. I think

977
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: everyone including myself, assumed once Kirk went down it'll be like, Okay,

978
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 1: you know Minnesota, the fate will finally be decided for them.

979
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: But you know there, I think they have to be.

980
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: If we're talking about who will be that seventh team

981
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: in the NFC, it's got to be the Vikings.

982
00:54:55,160 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 3: Well, that creates a little bit of a dilemma for themselves,

983
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 3: and I bet you know exactly what that dilemma is.

984
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,239
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985
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,239
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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio All Right with Kyle Rudolph

991
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Speaker 2: Mark Willard. It is Week.

992
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 3: Nine in the NFL, and we are tugging it out

993
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 3: live in the tie Rach dot Com studios. Kyle, I

994
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 3: know you know exactly where I'm going. You got a

995
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 3: four game win streak in Minnesota, You've got Josh Dobbs

996
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 3: coming in there and pulling games out.

997
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: So now, what the hell do you do about Justin Jefferson?

998
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: Ah, I mean, now, what do you do now?

999
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 3: Like the whole promise of the idea was, hey, it's

1000
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 3: not like you're going to the playoffs. So Justin now

1001
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 3: gets to sit there and go, look, I'm not going

1002
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 3: out there on the field and risking my body for

1003
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 3: the contract you didn't give me. But this adds a

1004
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 3: new layer. I mean, now now you're a playoff team.

1005
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: Personally, I think it gives even more leverage to Justin.

1006
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: You might think, oh, how does that happen? He needs

1007
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: to go out there and play. Well. If this Vikings

1008
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: team does want to be a playoff team, and they certainly,

1009
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 1: we just went through their next four, and then they've

1010
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: got three division games to finish it, two out of

1011
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: the last three against the Lions. So if this team

1012
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: does want to a try to make a push and

1013
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: sneak up on the Lions, they're going to have to

1014
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: have to have Justin Jefferson. And if they want to

1015
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: be in contention for that seventh spot at the worst,

1016
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson's a big part of that. And it's interesting

1017
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: because again Adam Schefter posted not too long ago about

1018
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: Justin and he's eligible to come off ir now and

1019
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: he hasn't met with the doctors and it's you know,

1020
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: they said four to six weeks. So does that two

1021
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: weeks buy him a little bit more time? Certainly? Again,

1022
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: like I said this last week, I know Justin. He's

1023
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: a guy that wants to be out there. He's a

1024
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: guy that's done everything the right way all through the

1025
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: offseason training camp. You know, easily could have held out

1026
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: and he didn't. He was there every single day and

1027
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: he played up until this hamstring injury. But I just

1028
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: think it's really hard for a guy like that to

1029
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: go out there without the contract that he deserves. But also,

1030
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: like I said, I know him, I know how much.

1031
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: He loves the game of football and competing and going

1032
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: out there and being one of the best. And I

1033
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: don't think that the quarterback really matters all that much.

1034
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: Like I said, if you're if you're a guy that's

1035
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: been there for five days, it'll make those play calls

1036
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: really easy. Fine number eighteen, When you drop back to pass,

1037
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: fine number eighteen and throw him the ball, it doesn't matter.

1038
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: You know his name. You'll know his name right away

1039
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: when you walk in the huddle, so it'll it'll certainly

1040
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: be interesting. I do think it gives even more leverage

1041
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: to justin, you know, forcing Quasi in the Minnesota Vikings.

1042
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 1: Get something done, you know, get this guy out there,

1043
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: have him healthy for the back half of the season,

1044
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: and who knows, you know, ultimately, again, it goes back

1045
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: to the conversation we had the very first or very

1046
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: second week of the season when I talked about the

1047
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins trade. And you know, where does this organization

1048
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: feel like they are. Is it finally time for a

1049
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: full rebuild or are you okay with wild card appearances

1050
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: and you know, playoff losses.

1051
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 3: Here's the danger, though, I agree with you that there

1052
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 3: is an aspec of this that creates more leverage for Justin. Hey,

1053
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 3: you guys want to go actually chase a playoff spot.

1054
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 3: You want to get into this thing, you better get

1055
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 3: your best player on the field. However, if they don't,

1056
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 3: you know where the drum beat goes, there will be

1057
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 3: a portion of the fan base that starts to get

1058
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 3: upset with Justin Jefferson for not honoring the contract and

1059
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 3: getting out there on the field to help his team

1060
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 3: for a playoff push. Remember pull these words apart you

1061
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 3: reference the Adam Schefter tweet.

1062
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 2: Let me read it to you.

1063
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 3: Viking's Pro Bowl receiver Justin Jefferson is eligible to come

1064
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 3: off injured reserve this week from a hamstring injury expected

1065
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 3: to signline him four to six, but Jefferson still has

1066
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 3: to meet with the doctors. The team has to decide

1067
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 3: how it wants to handle Jefferson, and there currently continues

1068
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 3: to be uncertainty about his status despite the fact that

1069
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 3: he could be activated as early as this week. Listen,

1070
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 3: translate all of that. Justin's healthy, Justin's ready to go.

1071
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 3: He still has to meet with the doctors. Why hasn't

1072
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 3: he The team has to decide quote how it wants

1073
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 3: to handle justin. I would imagine a fan goes, isn't

1074
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 3: it pretty a to B when he's healthy, give him

1075
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 3: a uniform? Like this whole thing is building toward frustration

1076
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 3: if it doesn't get done very swiftly. And they already

1077
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 3: tried this once and did not get it done.

1078
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it certainly looks healthy enough to me. Pregame,

1079
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Speaker 1: you know, you just you could tell, like when a

1080
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: guy is banged up and or not, and you know,

1081
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: he looks healthy to me. Obviously I'm not in his body.

1082
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I'm certain I was never fast

1083
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: enough to have hamstring problems, so I don't know what

1084
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: that's like.

1085
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: But the.

1086
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: Nature of it certainly seems odd because, like you said,

1087
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: everyone knows the answers to all of those questions, and

1088
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: it's almost as if, again, I don't think they know

1089
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: the direction that they want to go in. I think

1090
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: there's this uncertainty. I could tell you the coaching staff,

1091
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: the players, they're trying to win every single game possible.

1092
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: They don't care about a higher draft pick or a rebuild.

1093
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: They're trying to win every game, whether they have a

1094
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: quarterback that's been there for five days or Kirk Cousins,

1095
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,479
Speaker 1: who was playing at a level as good as any

1096
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL for the last couple of years.

1097
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to them. They're going to go out

1098
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: there every single Sunday and they're going to try to

1099
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: win the game. But the upstairs group, they need to

1100
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: figure out what they want to do. Are you going

1101
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: to rebuild this or not? And if you're not going

1102
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: to completely re built it. Quite honestly, it doesn't even matter.

1103
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: Pay the man, get your best player out there, and

1104
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: then figure everything else out.

1105
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 3: I like, that's the kind of guy that, to me,

1107
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 3: he would fit no matter what you're gonna do.

1108
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what he wants.

1109
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's a great point, you right, Like you

1110
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: decide what your your goal is and Justin fits it.

1111
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if Justin wants to.

1112
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: Go rebuild with a rookie quarterback or whatever, and so

1113
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 3: maybe he's got some say there, but you know, like,

1114
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 3: in what scenario do you not want Justin Jefferson, the

1115
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 3: best young receiver in the game on the team.

1116
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, one of the best receivers across the league,

1117
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: most consistent over the last three years. Just you know,

1118
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: he's a guy that you won out there, whether you're

1119
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: trying to make a playoff run or you know you're

1120
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: rebuilding a round a young quarterback. That guy needs to

1121
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: be out there. Like I said that, just they need

1122
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: to figure it out, and certainly it leads you to

1123
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: believe that as soon as that gets figured out, he'll

1124
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: meet with the doctors.

1125
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 3: Coincidentally, no doubt, No doubt, I tell you who we

1126
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 3: want out there. We want Steve de Seger out there

1127
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 3: because it's time to find out what is trending.

1128
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 2: Let's get our third member in here. Hey, Steve.

1129
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 6: Hello.

1130
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 7: The Buffalo Bills are trailing fourteen to seven at Cincinnati

1131
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 7: three and a half minutes to go in the second

1132
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 7: quarter tonight. Buffalo did have a touchdown on its opening

1133
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 7: drive of the evening, but just a couple of first

1134
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 7: down since then, and Josh Allen has thrown an interception. Meanwhile,

1135
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 7: in Sincy, Joe Burrow fifteen of eighteen passing one hundred

1136
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 7: and thirty nine yards one touchdown, Joe Mixon with a

1137
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 7: short touchdown run. As for the feature game on Fox

1138
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 7: TV earlier today at Philadelphia, the Eagles went to eight

1139
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 7: and one on the season, beating the Cowboys twenty eight

1140
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 7: to twenty three. Ceede Lamb did have eleven receptions one

1141
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 7: hundred and ninety one yards one fumble. He had a

1142
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 7: reception on the final pass of the day and was

1143
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 7: tackled inside the five yard line. Cowboys fall short. Joshua

1144
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 7: of the Eagles with six more quarterback pressures. He's now

1145
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 7: tied with the Cowboys. Micah Parsons for most pressures in

1146
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 7: the league this season hasan redick as top five in

1147
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 7: that category. He had seven pressures in this win. Indianapolis

1148
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 7: a victory at Carolina twenty seven to thirteen. Can we

1149
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 7: look forward to Thursday night? Are you aware that it's

1150
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 7: going to be one in seven Carolina at two and

1151
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 7: seven Chicago on Thursday? Get your subscriptions now. Chicago lost

1152
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 7: twenty four to seventeen at New Orleans. The first place

1153
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 7: Saints are now one game up on Atlanta and the

1154
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 7: NFC South Atlanta was losing it a home to those

1155
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 7: Vikings you were talking about. Thirty one twenty eight. Joshua

1156
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 7: Dobbs off the bench with the new team with the

1157
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 7: late touchdown pass. Cleveland shut out Arizona twenty seven nothing.

1158
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 7: The Cards had all of fifty eight yards of offense.

1159
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 7: The Rams did not have Matthew Stafford out with the

1160
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 7: thumb inch it looked like it at Green Bay twenty

1161
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 7: to three Packers. The final, Washington won at New England

1162
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 7: twenty to seventeen. It was a Baltimore dominant win over

1163
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 7: Seattle thirty seven to three. Seahawks tied for first in

1164
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 7: their division with Idol San Francisco. Houston got five touchdown

1165
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 7: passes from c. J. Stroud in a win over Tampa

1166
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 7: Bay thirty thirty nine thirty seven. The Raiders at home

1167
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 7: beat the Giants thirty to six. Giants are two and seven,

1168
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 7: and starting quarterback Daniel Jones, who just came back from

1169
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 7: a neck injury, left with a possible torn acl The

1170
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 7: game in Frankfurt this morning went to the Chiefs, holding

1171
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 7: on twenty one to fourteen over Miami. Next Sunday in Germany,

1172
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 7: it'll be Indy against New England. USC has fired defensive

1173
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 7: coordinator Alex Grinch. The Trojans have lost three of their

1174
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 7: last four games. Bad defense high point totals for the

1175
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 7: opponent has been a recurring theme this year and last.

1176
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 7: Ryan Blaney won the NASCAR Season Championship, his first just

1177
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 7: two NHL games tonight, but undefeated Vagus is playing in

1178
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 7: one and winning again two nothing at Anaheim there late

1179
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 7: in the second period. Baseball's Gold Glove winners for best

1180
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 7: Defense were announced tonight. They include in the National League,

1181
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 7: Arizona first baseman Christian Walker and Arizona catcher Gobby Moreno.

1182
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 7: In the NBA, Phoenix was two and four but got

1183
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 7: to win at Detroit today one twenty to one oh six.

1184
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 7: Kevin Durant forty one points. Devin Booker was out again

1185
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 7: with a strain. Cav Cleveland beat Golden State apparently for

1186
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 7: the first time since the finals about six years ago,

1187
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 7: one fifteen, one oh four. Donovan Mitchell had thirty one points.

1188
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 3: Back to you, Steve, you'll love this. This is a

1189
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 3: very Steve de Sager type stat. You may already know

1190
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 3: it because you're Steve de Sager, but I got to

1191
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 3: throw this at you. Kyle, you can weigh in too.

1192
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 3: You talk about Alex Grinch being fired as the defensive

1193
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 3: coordinator at usc SO. Dylan Johnson is the running back

1194
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 3: for Washington, and he ran for four touchdowns last night,

1195
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 3: two hundred fifty six yards out of the backfield for

1196
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 3: Dylan Johnson. Of those two hundred and fifty six yards,

1197
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 3: one hundred and ninety nine of them came before content.

1198
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 7: My goodness, Wow, that that is how.

1199
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 2: A defensive coordinator loses his job.

1200
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 7: So two hundred yards rushing without being touched is essentially.

1201
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 2: Wow, that was laying touch.

1202
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 7: And remember USC made the conference title game last year

1203
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 7: and Utah scores forty seven, and then it was Tulane

1204
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 7: in the Cotton Bowl and they scored forty six and

1205
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 7: it has just continued this year.

1206
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

1207
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 3: It's just yeah, like, there's no way you look at

1208
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 3: something like that and to me, Kyle, I wonder what

1209
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:51,479
Speaker 3: you think.

1210
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 2: Is it culture?

1211
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 3: There's no way that this coach is that bad. Like

1212
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 3: the assignments have to be ignored. The scheme is also

1213
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 3: just not clicking. There was a red zone play for Washington.

1214
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 3: I watched this stuff real, real closely last night. I

1215
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 3: was at PAC twelve Network watching all of this and

1216
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 3: so we got a lot of different looks at it.

1217
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 3: There's a red zone play for Michael Pennix Junior at

1218
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 3: one point where USC only rushed three, so they had

1219
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 3: eight players in the secondary running around and Pennis just

1220
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 3: boom right down there in the middle of the end zone.

1221
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 3: Is this receiver just standing there by himself? It's like,

1222
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 3: how do you have eight that you have to be

1223
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 3: so undisciplined for that to be the case, And that's

1224
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 3: why he lost his job. But I also, I'm like,

1225
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 3: this guy's not he's not a dummy. It's not like

1226
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 3: he's telling them to just go out there and run

1227
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 3: around in circles. But that's what it looks like they're doing.

1228
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: No and you know, certainly a Lincoln Riley led defense,

1229
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: you know, it's he's surprised that they're giving up points.

1230
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he dealt with it this whole time in

1231
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 1: Oklahoma too, Like giving up points is not that's not

1232
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: the issue, And as you mentioned, that's certainly probably not

1233
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: why he lost his job. Not touching a back and

1234
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: allowing him to have two hundred yards rushing without contacts,

1235
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: Like that's what That's outrageous, I mean, And I can't

1236
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: imagine what that looks like on tape. Like when you

1237
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: go there's a saying in football like it's never as

1238
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: bad as you think it is, and it's never as

1239
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 1: good as you thought it was. You know, it's there

1240
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: the reality when you turn on the tape is usually

1241
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle. So you come off a huge win,

1242
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 1: you think that you played great. You watch the tape

1243
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, well, there's some things, there's a

1244
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: lot of stuff we can clean up here. Really we got,

1245
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 1: you know, a couple plays here, a couple of plays there,

1246
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: and we ultimately won the game. The flip side, you

1247
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: lose the game, you feel like you did nothing right.

1248
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: You watch it and it's like, oh, well, you know,

1249
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 1: a couple plays here, plays there. That's what costs us

1250
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: the game. Two hundred rushing yards without being touched. That's

1251
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: not a couple of plays here, a couple of plays there. Again,

1252
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what those meetings were.

1253
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 7: Well, put it this way, guys, there are one hundred

1254
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 7: and thirty college football teams.

1255
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 2: USC.

1256
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 7: This is usc is ranked one twenty in rush defense,

1257
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 7: and they're going to be at Oregon. That's the late

1258
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 7: game on Fox this weekend.

1259
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

1260
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 3: In fact, both of you throw this at me because

1261
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 3: we're just having the Justin Jefferson conversation. Right Caleb Williams

1262
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 3: goes into the stands and he's sobbing in his mother's arms.

1263
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 3: That was telling her after an unbelievable performance, but the

1264
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 3: goals for the year as a team are gone. You're

1265
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 3: going to be the number one pick in the draft.

1266
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 3: He's obviously frustrated. You're making changes to the staff. So

1267
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 3: is he playing football anymore?

1268
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 7: At usc They only have two games left Oregon Ucla,

1269
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 7: and then I assume he skips the bowl game right

1270
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 7: against Oklahoma.

1271
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 3: By the way, like, Kyle, what would you do? I

1272
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,839
Speaker 3: know what the football of all, of course you go play.

1273
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 3: You got but hillions on the line.

1274
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 2: Now you got millions on the line.

1275
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: Matt, you gotta remember this is a guy in Caleb

1276
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: Williams had said, well, if I don't like who's got

1277
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 1: the first pick, I'll stay in school. So you gotta

1278
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: you know.

1279
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,879
Speaker 2: Like, I don't buy that for a second.

1280
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't either, but it's like, look, you know, if

1281
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: you're if that's what you're gonna say, you know, and

1282
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, Mark, you and I have had this conversation

1283
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: on air about some of his representatives and some of

1284
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: the things that have been said and the way it's

1285
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: been handled. Yes, you you can't go back on that now,

1286
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: like certainly not playing the rest of the season or

1287
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 1: not playing in the bowl game to get ready for

1288
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: the draft. It's like, you know that you talked about

1289
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: how much money you're making in NIL and that you

1290
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 1: could just stay in college if if you don't like

1291
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: who has the first overall, So certainly interesting times for

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Speaker 1: the USC Trojans, no doubt, things aren't much better for

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Speaker 1: my fighting Irish. So it's not like I can sit

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Speaker 1: here and Pokemontown.

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Speaker 3: No that I saw some of that game at against

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Speaker 3: Clemson as well. And did they rush the field when

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Speaker 3: they got to five and four at Clemson?

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Speaker 2: Did I see that yesterday?

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Speaker 7: They said, Oh, they said on the broadcast they always

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Speaker 7: do that, and I said, they do, they.

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Speaker 3: Shouldn't do it this time? Then stop, Yeah, stop doing that.

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Speaker 3: You just won national championships. You've got like two of

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Speaker 3: the biggest name quarterbacks to come out of there in

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Speaker 3: the last seven years of football.

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Speaker 2: You're you're rushing the field because you made it to

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Speaker 2: five and four.

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Speaker 7: They were just saying, take that. Joe and Spartanburg or

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01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 7: whoever called up the coach showed this week.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, Steve, great stuff, Thanks so much, Kyle. How

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Speaker 3: about this speaking of a coach losing his job and

1311
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 3: everything suddenly changes. We got an NFL team to talk

1312
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 3: about because everything is suddenly different.

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Speaker 2: So that's Kyle Rudolph. I'm Mark Willard.

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Speaker 3: We're in the Tyrek dot Com studios and we'll discuss

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Speaker 3: that next on Fox Sports Radio Live TIRAQ dot Com

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Speaker 3: Studios with Kyle Rudolph a Mark Willard. Week nine is

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01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 3: coming to a head. The Bengals are back. They lead

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01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 3: the Bills twenty one to seven. They are approaching halftime.

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01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 3: Bills on the move, try to get a little something

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Speaker 3: on the board before they head to the locker room.

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Speaker 3: But the Bengals look like gosh, who do they remind

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01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 3: me of? Oh right, the Bengals, That's who they remind

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01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,640
Speaker 3: me of. They look like the team that we expected

1324
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 3: but just took a minute to get here this year.

1325
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 3: So the AFC continues to be very interesting, packed loaded

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Speaker 3: all of that. We'll talk more about it at the

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01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 3: top of the hour. Kyle, I'm not looking for you

1328
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 3: to throw anyone under the bus by any stretch, but

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01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:07,839
Speaker 3: I wonder if you can relate the Las Vegas Raiders

1330
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 3: players look like they just got out of school for

1331
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 3: the summer. I mean, people are throwing math quizzes in

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01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 3: the hallways. They're just right throw I mean backpacks, put

1333
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 3: them in the trash. Everything is an absolute party. They

1334
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 3: look like they got out of jail. And I don't

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01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 3: know exactly where that's directed. Obviously Josh McDaniels is where

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01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 3: that starts. But the GM gone, They're moving coordinators, they

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01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 3: change quarterbacks. Reporters are saying that they've never seen the

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01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 3: locker room look this light. And that was before they

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01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 3: went out there and won a football game.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 3: You know, this move is going to cost Mark Davis

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01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 3: almost one hundred million dollars. And it's not like they're

1343
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 3: gonna go win the Super Bowl now. But this is

1344
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 3: one of those things where I'm like, look.

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01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm not there.

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01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 3: I don't know about the moves you're making, but simply

1347
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 3: because of the reaction, the energy that was created in

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01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,560
Speaker 3: the room, I'm like, well, then.

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01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the right move.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mean the victory cigars in the locker room

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01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: after he beat the New York Giants with quarterback. But

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01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: it does it says a lot about I guess the

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01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: way things were, and I guess how this week went.

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01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: You know, I can only think of you have a

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01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:49,879
Speaker 1: former player and I watched a couple of Antonio Pierce's

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01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 1: press conferences, the like passion that he had for a

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01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: guy that just grew up a Raiders fan, like he

1358
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: wasn't even a player for the Raiders, obviously played for

1359
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 1: the Giants and won Super Bowls with the Giants. And

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01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 1: then the Jay Glazier report comes out this morning of

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01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: kind of how the whole firing went down, and it

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01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:20,560
Speaker 1: was almost like that team immediately rallied behind ap And

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01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: sometimes that's all it takes, because you know, this gets

1364
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,679
Speaker 1: brought up all the time in pro football, the talent

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01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: disparity across the thirty two teams is not that great.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, the Raiders maybe four and five or three

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Speaker 1: and five going into today, and then you have the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs in that division that are now seven and two.

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Speaker 1: It's not because the Chiefs are far more talented. They

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01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: have a far more talented quarterback. But it's like the

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01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:53,560
Speaker 1: rosters as a whole. It's not like college where the

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Speaker 1: coaches that are getting fired in college simply have way.

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01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: You know, there's no talent on scholarship. There's talent in

1374
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: these NFL locker rooms. And when you bring a guy

1375
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: in or have a guy that you make the head

1376
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:12,560
Speaker 1: coach who gets the most out of every individual on

1377
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: the roster gets guys playing for him. Deavante Adams said

1378
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: in his press conference, I'm already ready to run through

1379
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: a wall for this guy. I think it says a lot.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting the dichotomy that's out there right now. NFL

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01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:31,759
Speaker 3: head coaches all of a sudden, Bill Belichick feels stale.

1382
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin is still doing his thing, so he is,

1383
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 3: so is John Harbaugh. But when you look around the league,

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01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 3: obviously Andy Reid too, but there's a little bit of

1385
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 3: a Dan Campbell feel to what the Raiders just achieved

1386
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 3: and what you were talking about. And then you think

1387
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Speaker 3: about a Siriani in Philadelphia. I guess McVeigh and Shanahan

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01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 3: that's a little bit different. They're not former players, also

1389
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 3: not raw rock guys. They're coming from that same tree

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Speaker 3: and quote unquote offensive geniuses.

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Speaker 2: But the anatomy of a head.

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01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 3: Coach and what works, I feel like it's changing a

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Speaker 3: little bit, almost the same way baseball did, where you

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01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 3: don't have to be fifty five and up anymore in

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01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 3: order to do this. And I wonder if that trend

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Speaker 3: is going to keep continuing because of guys like Dan

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Speaker 3: Campbell and we'll see where this goes with Antonio Pierce.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and also I think it proves like you

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01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 1: don't have to be the best defensive play caller or

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Speaker 1: offensive play caller the year before to be a head

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Speaker 1: coaching candidate. I think both Dan and Antonio Pierce are

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Speaker 1: great examples. Obviously there's it's one game, it's a very

1403
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: small sample size, but it's like it's just when when

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01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 1: you're at this level, your head coach oftentimes is just

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01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: a leader of men. I think that's why Mike Tomlins

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Speaker 1: had so much success over his time in Pittsburgh, because yeah,

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01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,839
Speaker 1: he's a defensive guy, but he's not calling the defense.

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01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: He's managing the entire team and he's handling everything that

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01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: goes into that on a daily basis, on a weekly basis,

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Speaker 1: on game days. He gets the most out of his

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01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 1: players day in and day out. And you know, I

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01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: look at this Raiders team and you know, certainly it

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01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: goes against the under fifty four category, but like Rich

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Speaker 1: Pisaci is the interim head coach and they go to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, like you lost to the Cincinnai Bengals on

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Speaker 1: the last play of the game. It was a red

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01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: zone stop. The Bengals go on and lose to the

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Speaker 1: Rams in the Super Bowl that year, and you move

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Speaker 1: on from him. It's like, that's a guy you could

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Speaker 1: tell right away. As soon as all that stuff happened

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Speaker 1: with Henry Ruggs and John Gruden, that team was left

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Speaker 1: for dead. And yet here's this opportunity where Rich Pisachik

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Speaker 1: comes in and leads them all the way to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: It's like they just can't seem to get that head

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Speaker 1: coach right.

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Speaker 3: They're on Sunday Night Football next week. They did not

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01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 3: get flexed out. You and I will get to watch

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Speaker 3: the Raiders take on the Jets together next week.

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Speaker 1: That'll be a good one.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, or maybe the first one to ten wins. I

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01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's again, we'll see. They scored a lot of

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01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 1: points today, but that Jet defenses is legitimate, and we

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01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: talked about that roster yep.

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Speaker 3: And then after they take on the Jets, then it's

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01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 3: back to back weeks of the Dolphins, then the Chiefs,

1437
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 3: and then into the bye So this might be a

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01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 3: whole lot of fun, but short lived. We shall see.

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01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 3: Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph coming up next. Has the AFC

1440
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 3: already proven they are way better than the NFC. We've

1441
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Speaker 3: got some data.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the halftime hour for Sunday Night Football.

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Speaker 3: I don't want this to be a simplistic point. The

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01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 3: AFC has more good teams than the NFC. You don't

1455
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 3: need us to tell you that. What I'm interested in, though,

1456
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 3: is what happens when those teams meet head to head.

1457
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,799
Speaker 3: The Eagles, let's put them over here for a second.

1458
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 3: They've been the NFC's best for a couple of seasons now,

1459
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 3: and obviously held up very well in the Super Bowl,

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01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 3: even though they came out on the losing end. I've

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01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 3: already got my eyes on a game coming next week

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01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 3: and it is the the Jacksonville Jaguars and the San

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01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 3: Francisco forty nine Ers getting together, both coming off of

1464
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 3: a bye, the forty nine Ers in the midst of.

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Speaker 2: A three game losing streak.

1466
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 3: Yet you'd think they might be getting Trent Williams and

1467
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel back.

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01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 2: We'll see if that helps them out a little bit.

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01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 3: But my eyes are on these last few weeks of

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01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens football, Kyle, and not just in a way of, oh,

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Speaker 3: that's nice.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens are going to be a factor here too

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01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 2: in the AFC.

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01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: Not just that.

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01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 3: I'm looking at a total and complete dismantling of the

1476
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 3: Detroit Lions and the Seattle Seahawks in home games in Baltimore,

1477
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 3: to the tune of giving up nine points total in

1478
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 3: these two games, yet scoring quick math quick math seventy five.

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Speaker 3: They outscored the Lions and Seahawks five to nine in

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Speaker 3: their last two home games, which makes me, you know,

1481
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 3: I know, the Lions beat the Chiefs on Opening night,

1482
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 3: that game was a little bit quirky. For sure, We're

1483
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 3: gonna get some answers to these questions soon as the

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01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 3: Eagles have the Bills and the Chiefs on their schedule

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01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 3: coming up here pretty soon.

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01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 2: But are we in a.

1487
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 3: Spot like we used to be in the nineties with

1488
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,679
Speaker 3: the Niners and the Cowboys where the conference title game

1489
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 3: might actually be the real super Bowl because the AFC

1490
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 3: is just flat out so much better than what the

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01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 3: NFC has to offer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And to your point, I don't know. I don't

1493
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: know if we're quite there yet because I feel like Philly,

1494
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: a healthy San Fran they compete with all of these

1495
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: AFC powerhouses. I think the AFC is just so much deeper.

1496
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's you look through the list. You know,

1497
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: we had talked about Baltimore, Jacksonville, the Bengals and healthy

1498
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and what they do. You know, you could

1499
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 1: look at a handful of these, The Bills, you know,

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01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: the Chiefs always are up there at the top. You

1501
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 1: can look at the AFC list and it goes well beyond.

1502
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: You know, we were searching for seven teams to put

1503
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: in the NFC playoff picture. We felt like we had

1504
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: five and one had to win a division, so that

1505
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: was our sixth and then we were looking for the

1506
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: seventh to whereas in in the AFC, the Bengals are

1507
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: technically the ninth spot right now in the AFC playoffs, it's.

1508
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 2: Like outrageous, exactly, Yeah.

1509
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,719
Speaker 1: It's outrageous. So they're you know, there are two teams

1510
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs right now, them and the Jets

1511
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 1: sit in the first two spots outside of the playoffs

1512
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: looking in. And wouldn't it be just all that much

1513
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 1: better to speaking about the Jets. We have this jam

1514
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 1: packed powerhouse AFC. If Aaron Rodgers actually pulls off this

1515
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 1: miracle and gets back in December at some point, that

1516
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: would just make for an incredible AFC playoff run.

1517
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 3: Well what if they win tomorrow night, and they might,

1518
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 3: They host the Los Angeles Chargers, and we have no

1519
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 3: idea what to expect from them any day ever. All

1520
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 3: the time, and then we've been talking a little bit

1521
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 3: about what comes up next for them. They do have

1522
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 3: some difficulty. They got a won two punch with the

1523
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 3: Bills and Dolphins coming up soon. Obviously they're division games,

1524
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 3: there's no getting around that. But we mentioned they're at

1525
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 3: the Raiders Sunday Night football next week. If they're able

1526
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 3: to beat the Chargers. Able to beat the Raiders, they

1527
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,719
Speaker 3: would find themselves at six and three with games still

1528
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:48,560
Speaker 3: ahead at home against the Falcons, the Texans, the Commanders.

1529
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 2: They've got a road game against the New England Patriots.

1530
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 3: I mean, just the way that they play football, and

1531
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 3: they've had a couple of late game breaks already. Even

1532
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 3: if Aaron weren't going to get back until the very end,

1533
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 3: there is a plausible path that puts the Jets in

1534
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 3: this thing.

1535
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 2: Why not?

1536
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 3: The Bills are facing five and four right down the

1537
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 3: barrel right now as we speak.

1538
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you you're spot on with it. It's interesting

1539
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: the way this all is starting to shape up. I

1540
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 1: think that's the most exciting part about getting into November.

1541
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 1: You know, so much of September and October is just

1542
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: finding out who these teams are. You know, they have

1543
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: a good week, a bad week. The sample size is

1544
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: too small to judge. And now here we are nine

1545
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 1: weeks into the season, or past the halfway point for

1546
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: most of the teams, and we have an incredible sample

1547
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 1: size to be able to look at all this in

1548
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 1: the AFC and go down this list of teams. And

1549
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: you know you talked about Baltimore at the top. I

1550
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: feel like we've been searching and we threw out Jacksonville

1551
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: as a potential sleeper in the AFC. And I think

1552
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 1: the Ravens are a team that deserve to be talked

1553
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: about more. What they've done in the last two weeks,

1554
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:10,879
Speaker 1: both at home against really good football teams, NFC playoff

1555
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 1: football teams, is pretty incredible. And I think that the

1556
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens are a team that we should be talking

1557
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: about more. And it's going to be really interesting as

1558
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 1: this Baltimore Ravens team and the Sincena Bengals team that

1559
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 1: we're watching here tonight, because you know, it's like, did

1560
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: Cincinnati almost put themselves behind the eight ball a little

1561
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:35,560
Speaker 1: too much with their in the division losses early in

1562
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 1: the season. Will those come back to haunt them down

1563
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: the stretch? But as we've talked about, I don't think

1564
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,560
Speaker 1: this Bengals team has any fear of going on the

1565
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 1: road in the playoffs. They've done it plenty of times

1566
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 1: in the past.

1567
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt.

1568
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 3: And you know, I look at this right now, and look,

1569
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 3: it's just one stat You can do whatever you want

1570
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 3: with it. But the NFC leader in point differential right

1571
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 3: now is still the San Francisco forty nine ers, even

1572
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 3: after three consecutive losses. They lead the NFC in point

1573
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 3: differential at plus seventy eight. Usually gives you a little

1574
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 3: bit of a barometer of not just who's good, but

1575
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 3: sort of like how good they are.

1576
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:12,839
Speaker 2: Go over to the AFC.

1577
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 3: Everybody remembers what the Dolphins did to the Broncos. You

1578
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 3: had a plus fifty in that one game alone. They're

1579
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 3: plus ten in the rest of their games. They're other

1580
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 3: eight games. The Baltimore Ravens are plus one fifteen by

1581
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 3: far and away the biggest number in the NFL. And

1582
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 3: we know the division in which they play, and I've

1583
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:43,480
Speaker 3: already mentioned that they've taken on two NFC playoff contenders

1584
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 3: in the last three weeks. This is a team that's

1585
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 3: already played the Bengals, that's already played the Browns. They've

1586
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 3: gone into Pittsburgh. Sure they didn't win it, like it's

1587
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 3: not because of an easy schedule. They are the most

1588
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 3: underdiscussed team in the NFL, no question in my mind.

1589
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they showed a this kind of gets lost

1590
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: at times because we go so much week by week.

1591
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 1: They showed a graphic during their game today, just their

1592
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 1: last four weeks in traveling to London and then coming

1593
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 1: home and playing Detroit and then traveling to Arizona and

1594
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 1: then coming home, and like, just over the last four weeks,

1595
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 1: the travel schedule that they've had while just clicking off

1596
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 1: when when, and most of them in very convincing fashion.

1597
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 3: No doubt, And Browns and Bengals for them in their

1598
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 3: next two games, one of them is gonna be on

1599
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 3: Thursday night. So we're gonna get to see the Ravens

1600
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 3: a couple more times in just the next week and

1601
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 3: a half and maybe get to see that AFC North

1602
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 3: start to take shape a little bit, because right now,

1603
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 3: especially if this one goes the way it's going, you're

1604
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 3: not gonna just have everybody over five hundred. You're gonna

1605
01:29:56,439 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 3: have everybody at least two games over five hundred in division.

1606
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 3: I can't remember ever seeing that before in the second

1607
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 3: half of an NFL season.

1608
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 1: That's a really good division. I think the Cleveland Browns

1609
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: have certainly been a topic of discussion with one of

1610
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 1: the best, if not the best defenses in football. And

1611
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 1: you know, through nine weeks, that's what we know about

1612
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. We've talked about their offensive situation and

1613
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, and then the Cincinnati Bengals teams as

1614
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:30,680
Speaker 1: they're starting to take shape and hit their stride, And

1615
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: what better time to do it, you know, if you're

1616
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 1: going to start clicking on all cylinders, the middle of

1617
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: November is a great time.

1618
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 3: I mean, it's almost easier when you're looking at that

1619
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 3: conference right now, Kyle to just say, Okay, forget who

1620
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 3: we think is in it.

1621
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 2: Let's list who we think is not like.

1622
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 3: Who can we just eliminate from even any sort of

1623
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 3: a conversation about the playoffs right.

1624
01:30:58,439 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 2: Out of the gate?

1625
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 3: I mean, let's take New England out of this, and then, gosh,

1626
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 3: I guess I want to take the Broncos and Raiders

1627
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 3: out of this, even though their records are not that bad.

1628
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 3: Same to be said about the Titans. Chargers have a

1629
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 3: losing record, but you don't feel good doing that. You

1630
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 3: mentioned what you said about the Jets. I mean, what's

1631
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 3: amazing about this conference. We talk about its top. What's

1632
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 3: amazing is that it doesn't have a bottom.

1633
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I think if you look at it, you know,

1634
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 1: I'd be comfortable. The Indianapolis Colts sit at four and five,

1635
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 1: and you know, certainly they're not gonna get in at

1636
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,599
Speaker 1: that record. It would have to be like a NFC

1637
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 1: South type division, and Jacksonville's in that division. They're running

1638
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 1: away with that one. So you're not gonna get two

1639
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 1: teams from the AFC South end. So you go Colts, Raiders, Chargers,

1640
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:57,759
Speaker 1: Like what are the Chargers?

1641
01:31:57,800 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 3: You get?

1642
01:31:58,000 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 1: We were talking about the Chargers tomorrow we see them

1643
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:04,600
Speaker 1: against the Jets and then Titans, Broncos, Patriots, So you know,

1644
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,719
Speaker 1: I would feel comfortable kind of going with that on down,

1645
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, really just putting the measurement right at the

1646
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 1: five hundred mark. But it's interesting you talk about, Okay,

1647
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 1: what team's not going to make it, just forget the

1648
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 1: AFC Conference as a whole, talk about the AFC North.

1649
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 1: If this game goes away, it's going right now, and

1650
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 1: the Bengals win tonight and they move to five and three,

1651
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 1: you will have the two seed, the five seed, the

1652
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 1: sixth seed, and the seventh seed. All four AFC North

1653
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,719
Speaker 1: will be in the playoff picture after that game.

1654
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:50,200
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1661
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1662
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Speaker 3: that much yet. We will next on Fox Sports Radio.

1663
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 3: All right, we are live in the tire Raq dot

1664
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 3: com studios. I can remember having a conversation with you

1665
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks in Kyle, and You're like, sure,

1666
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 3: the Eagles are good, but something's not quite right. And

1667
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:45,759
Speaker 3: I'm still not one hundred percent sure that that statement

1668
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 3: doesn't ring true. But by the same token, I know

1669
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:53,759
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts is not one hundred percent.

1670
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 2: I know the.

1671
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles have about as tough of a schedule as

1672
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 3: I can. It's only about to get tougher, I'll grant you,

1673
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 3: and I do think there will be more losses within

1674
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 3: the next five weeks. But that said, my god, they've

1675
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 3: got a lot of answers to the questions that everyone

1676
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 3: throws out there. And I know that got a little

1677
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 3: hairy there at the end of the game. Thank goodness.

1678
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys. Whenever they've got late game management things

1679
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 3: to figure out, they rarely do, and so that took

1680
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:32,919
Speaker 3: away what could have should have been a stolen football

1681
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 3: game today. But I don't know, man, when you look

1682
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 3: up and down, and I'll add the AFCN on this one,

1683
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 3: when you just use the phrase buttoned up, like who

1684
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 3: looks the most buttoned up right now with what they're doing,

1685
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,560
Speaker 3: I'll take the Philadelphia Eagles.

1686
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 1: I agree. And so much has been made of the

1687
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: brotherly shove and the tush push and all this that

1688
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 1: we see in Philly. And you know, we could talk

1689
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:07,480
Speaker 1: about it all we want. Should it be legal, illegal,

1690
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 1: Is it good for the game, bad for the game?

1691
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, But what it is and what it

1692
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 1: does for Philly, you really saw it today. They're playing

1693
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 1: a different game than everyone else. Like when they get

1694
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 1: the ball, it's first in eight or nine. It's not

1695
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 1: first and ten. They only have to get eight or

1696
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 1: nine yards and then they just know they'll line up

1697
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 1: and get one or two that they need with the

1698
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 1: quarterback sneak if they have to on fourth down, I've

1699
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 1: never seen a team that can line up that confidently

1700
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 1: and you know, get the yards every single time that

1701
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 1: they get and it really it can be the deodorant

1702
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 1: to a lot of things that stink for them offensively

1703
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 1: when they're not clicking on all cylinders. You know, maybe

1704
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:56,560
Speaker 1: the run games not going as well as they would like,

1705
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 1: or pass game we're not hitting it as good as

1706
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: we want. But at the end of the day, you're like, hey,

1707
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 1: if we get three three, three, all right, we'll go

1708
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 1: forward on fourth and one, like we're gonna get it,

1709
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 1: like new set of downs, okay. And it just keeps

1710
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 1: giving this incredibly talented offense more and more opportunities to

1711
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 1: get going. And I think certainly, look over the last

1712
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 1: seven weeks. You know, for the first time in seven weeks,

1713
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 1: AJ Brown didn't have over one hundred and twenty five

1714
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,679
Speaker 1: yards receiving, which is incredible. I mean, over the last

1715
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 1: month and a half, he's played as good a football

1716
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 1: as any receiver, Tyreek Hill, any of those guys. What

1717
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 1: he's done for that offense has been incredible. And I

1718
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 1: do think that the Philadelphia Eagles are one of the

1719
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 1: most buttoned up, well rounded you know what, you're gonna

1720
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 1: get from that defense, the front, the rush is incredible.

1721
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 1: They just keep adding guys, you know, hy Roseman, Cozen

1722
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 1: gets Kevin Byern. It's like, how does this happen? Like

1723
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 1: how do you just keep trading for Pro Bowl caliber players?

1724
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 1: They signed Julio Jones, which I know a lot of

1725
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 1: people don't believe Julio has a whole lot left in

1726
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:07,680
Speaker 1: the tank. But I was with Julio last year in

1727
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,599
Speaker 1: Tampa and had he not had a really bad PCL

1728
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 1: injury Week one that he played through all year, I

1729
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 1: saw Julio and camp, and if Julio looks like he

1730
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 1: did in camp last year right now in Philly, he's

1731
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a guy that it won't be a huge

1732
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 1: difference all the time, but in key moments, a guy

1733
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 1: that they'll be able to rely on after aj Brown

1734
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 1: and Devonte Smith.

1735
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 3: Meantime, on the other side of the ball, the Miami

1736
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I mean Dallas Cowboys have a lot of

1737
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 3: the same characteristics as the team that we talked about

1738
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:45,680
Speaker 3: off the top. Now they do have one win over

1739
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 3: a team with a winning record, but excuse me, oh,

1740
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 3: by the way, it's the New York Jets. And they

1741
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 3: got him the week after Aaron Rodgers went down, when

1742
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 3: the Jets were still completely discombobulated. So they too have

1743
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 3: no impressive landmark wins. They've had two opportunities to do so,

1744
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 3: road trips to San Francisco and Philadelphia. They were a

1745
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 3: hell of a lot closer today than they were a

1746
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 3: few weeks ago in San Francisco, but they've lost both

1747
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 3: of those.

1748
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 2: And also, they are literally the team that might throw a.

1749
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 3: Wrench in the Arizona Cardinals getting Caleb Williams, because the

1750
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 3: only reason the Cardinals are one and eight as opposed

1751
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 3: to to nine is because of the Dallas Cowboys and

1752
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 3: the egg that they laid in Arizona a number of

1753
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 3: weeks ago. So I look at those two teams, the

1754
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 3: Dolphins and the Cowboys, very similarly.

1755
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 2: These are good teams, these are playoff teams.

1756
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 3: However, they are the teams we go see when we're

1757
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 3: looking for a good time, not looking for a serious time,

1758
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 3: because they just have not been able to get the

1759
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 3: big game, and that characteristic has followed the Cowboys for

1760
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 3: a lot longer than it has the Dolphins.

1761
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 1: It has in one of the benefits that the Cowboys

1762
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 1: will have that the Dolphins don't is they're going to

1763
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 1: most likely go play that NFC South champion in the

1764
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 1: first round playoffs, so they will get one more opportunity

1765
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 1: to figure it out to Whereas we've talked about the

1766
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:26,599
Speaker 1: Dolphins and if they don't win the division, the potential

1767
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 1: AFC teams that they have to face. But you know,

1768
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 1: it's interesting, like you talked about it, the Cowboys and

1769
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 1: that late game management. The Eagles gave them every opportunity

1770
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 1: they try to hand them the game, even as late

1771
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 1: as the last drive when Swift and AJ Brown run

1772
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 1: into each other in the backfield, it's like DeAndre Swift

1773
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 1: and AJ Brown collide the balls on the ground and

1774
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, that they're just gonna give

1775
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 1: Dallas the ball right there. They really are trying to

1776
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 1: give this game away. You give them credit, you know,

1777
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 1: the defense that was reel in there with cornerback injuries

1778
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 1: late in the game. They got the stops they needed

1779
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 1: to get the big win in the division at home.

1780
01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, if you're the Cowboys, that's

1781
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 1: a game that you have to win. It's you had

1782
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 1: every opportunity to go back to the Eagles and the

1783
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 1: advantage that they have where they convert every single fourth

1784
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 1: and one. Dallas had fourth and one or two there

1785
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 1: late in the game and weren't able to execute it.

1786
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 1: They hit the rookie tight end and he was ruled

1787
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 1: short of the end zone. It's like, if that's Philly,

1788
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:32,600
Speaker 1: they're not even worried about it. They're they're lining up

1789
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 1: under center and they're gonna QB sneak in for a

1790
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:36,760
Speaker 1: touchdown and then they'll go for two and get the

1791
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:38,760
Speaker 1: eight points there, and it's a three point ball game.

1792
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:41,679
Speaker 1: So again, I think that just goes back to Philly

1793
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:45,600
Speaker 1: and their ability to play a different ballgame because they

1794
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 1: really only need eight yards for a first down.

1795
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1796
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:54,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean I hear all that, but Kyle, you

1797
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 3: know what else little prediction here, and it's just schedule flow,

1798
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 3: But people won't look closely enough at it to think

1799
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 3: of that. And the Cowboys will respond to this loss.

1800
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,160
Speaker 3: Why well, because they play the Giants and the Panthers

1801
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 3: the next two weeks.

1802
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 2: That's why. So the Cowboys, Right, so the Cowboys will

1803
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 2: be they'll.

1804
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:18,719
Speaker 3: Be seven and three and then they've got home dates

1805
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 3: with Washington and Seattle.

1806
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 2: Those are tougher they're losable, but very winnable as well.

1807
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 3: And so what I could see really developing is, as

1808
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 3: you mentioned, the Cowboys will get that top wildcard spot.

1809
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 3: Well maybe maybe in four weeks they will be nine

1810
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 3: and three and they'll be this little buzz. Hey, don't

1811
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 3: forget about the Cowboys. They're coming nine and three. That's

1812
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 3: a squad right there. That's the top wildcard team in

1813
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:51,639
Speaker 3: the NFC. And then bang, listen to the five game

1814
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 3: stretch they've got at the end of the year. They

1815
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:57,759
Speaker 3: host Philly, they go to Buffalo, they go to Miami,

1816
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 3: they host Detroit, and they finish at Washington.

1817
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent sure they're gonna win any

1818
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 2: of those, like any of them.

1819
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you know, they get one, they get two,

1820
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:16,680
Speaker 3: maybe they play really well and get three. But I'm

1821
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 3: not so sure they're gonna end up with that top

1822
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 3: wild card spot with the way that that the schedule

1823
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:23,720
Speaker 3: is gonna fall for them at the end of the year.

1824
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 1: No, but it will be the narrative will be written

1825
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:31,719
Speaker 1: at that point. You know, it won't be us debating

1826
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 1: on you know, is this Cowboys team responding by beating

1827
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 1: the Giants and the Panthers and then you know, they

1828
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 1: have Washington at home on Thanksgiving and then Seattle at

1829
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 1: home bye week, so they're off, or they go back

1830
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 1: to back Thursdays and then they play so they have

1831
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 1: that that mini eye, so they go back to back

1832
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 1: Thursdays and then they play Philly. They welcome Philly to Dallas.

1833
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 1: And you mentioned though that stretch four straight. We're gonna

1834
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 1: know is this Dallas team going into the playoffs to

1835
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:16,719
Speaker 1: do some damage or are they just in the playoffs,

1836
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 1: as you said, for a good time in an early

1837
01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 1: exit home.

1838
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 3: A question about a few teams out there that are

1839
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 3: really kind of caught between a rock and a hard

1840
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:31,640
Speaker 3: place at the quarterback position, especially with what is expected

1841
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 3: to be an unbelievable quarterback draft coming up next year.

1842
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a couple of minutes, but

1843
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 2: let's get Steve de Seger in here. First.

1844
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:44,439
Speaker 3: Find out what's trending across the sports world tonight.

1845
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 7: Hey Steve, Hello, you mentioned Dallas is going to be

1846
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,639
Speaker 7: playing the Giants. They are two and seven now after

1847
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:53,760
Speaker 7: losing at Las Vegas. The Giants have been outscored by

1848
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 7: thirteen points per game, worst in the league this year.

1849
01:43:56,520 --> 01:44:00,240
Speaker 7: They're not even coming within single digits on average thirty

1850
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 7: to six Vegas.

1851
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 2: Today.

1852
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:05,679
Speaker 7: Las Vegas had eight sacks, three by Max Crosby. Starting

1853
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:08,639
Speaker 7: quarterback Daniel Jones of the Giants left with a possible

1854
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 7: torn acl MRI coming on Monday. He just returned. He

1855
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 7: was out three games with a neck injury. Quarterback to

1856
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:18,640
Speaker 7: Rod Taylor is on IR already. The Giants offense with

1857
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:22,120
Speaker 7: thirteen drives just fifteen first downs. They were down twenty

1858
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 7: four to nothing at the half tonight at Cincinnati. It's

1859
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 7: a lead for the home team Bengals twenty one to

1860
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 7: ten now over Buffalo with about five minutes to go

1861
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:34,639
Speaker 7: in the third quarter. For the Buffalo Bills on the ground,

1862
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 7: seven carries just twenty yards Josh Allen with a short

1863
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:41,240
Speaker 7: TD run. He has one interception thrown as well Joe

1864
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 7: Burrow two touchdown passes two hundred and twenty one yards

1865
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 7: through the air. It's a lead for the home team

1866
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 7: and Cincinnati's trying to go to five and three overall.

1867
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 7: Buffalo for the moment is five and three. Bengals have

1868
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:56,800
Speaker 7: won three in a row. Philadelphia's win over Dallas was

1869
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 7: twenty eight to twenty three. Dak Prescott with three touchdown passes,

1870
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 7: but on a late two point roun he stepped out

1871
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 7: of bounds. Eagles are eight and one. Indianapolis won at

1872
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 7: Carolina twenty seven to thirteen. Colts led twenty to three

1873
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 7: at the half. Victories for Minnesota and Cleveland for Green

1874
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 7: Bay and Washington, New Orleans Beach Chicago twenty four to seventeen.

1875
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 7: Baltimore whip Seattle thirty seven to three. The Ravens are

1876
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 7: seven and two. They won four in a row. Somebody

1877
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 7: named Keaton Mitchell of the Ravens on nine carries at

1878
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 7: one hundred and thirty eight yards rushing at a touchdown.

1879
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:31,719
Speaker 7: Next Sunday, Baltimore host Cleveland at Houston c J Stroud

1880
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:35,240
Speaker 7: five touchdown passes in a thirty nine to thirty seven

1881
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 7: decision over Tampa Bay, which has lost four in a row.

1882
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:40,720
Speaker 7: And at the game this morning in Frankfurt, Kansas City

1883
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 7: held on to beat Miami twenty one to fourteen. USC

1884
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 7: Fire defensive coordinator Alex Grinch. Ryan Blaney won the NASCAR

1885
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 7: Season Championship, his first just two NHL games tonight, but

1886
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 7: undefeated Vegas is on the ice.

1887
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 2: They have just.

1888
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 7: Lost in Anaheim four to two. Vegas had been eleven

1889
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 7: to Zher in regulation with one overtime loss. In the

1890
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 7: NBA Toronto in overtime one at San Antonio won twenty

1891
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 7: three to one sixteen victor Wimbin Yama. The Spurs did

1892
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 7: have twenty points five blocks. Cleveland beat Golden State, which

1893
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 7: had been five and one this year, but Cavs won

1894
01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 7: fifteen one oh four to the final Donovan Mitchell thirty

1895
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:22,479
Speaker 7: one points. Dallas is five and one after defeating Charlotte

1896
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:25,719
Speaker 7: despite a triple double from LaMelo Ball Final one, twenty

1897
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 7: four one eighteen. Football update Cincinnati with the ball and

1898
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 7: the lead late third quarter, twenty one ten over the Bills.

1899
01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 2: Back to you.

1900
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, great stuff tonight, see thanks so much. Bengals look

1901
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:40,600
Speaker 3: very very under control. Joe Burrow looks under control. This

1902
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:44,759
Speaker 3: is very different than the Bengals that we saw early

1903
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 3: in the year, for sure. Jamar Chase is getting banged

1904
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 3: around though tonight. He's had We talked about his target

1905
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 3: share earlier. He is, he's had a fine target share,

1906
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:58,920
Speaker 3: but has not gotten anything. Going three catches nine yards.

1907
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 3: He landed on his back. They're looking at him a

1908
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:04,720
Speaker 3: little bit. It's been a frustrating night and it just

1909
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 3: you know, it brings to mind what's already gone on

1910
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 3: in the division after Thursday Night Football and the whole

1911
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 3: George Pickens experience. But not expecting anything to come out

1912
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:18,120
Speaker 3: of this one. They're touch over a quarter away from

1913
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:21,960
Speaker 3: yet another signature win, which is kind of the signature

1914
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 3: of this team. They seem to look better the better

1915
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 3: their opponent, as opposed to what we keep seeing out

1916
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 3: of the Dolphins and the Cowboys.

1917
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 1: No, that's exactly it. The Bengals seem to play better

1918
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 1: in bigger games. And it goes as Joe Burrow goes.

1919
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 1: We've talked about his health. They showed a clip just

1920
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 1: of him moving around early in the year and him

1921
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:51,639
Speaker 1: moving around tonight, and you can tell that he's completely

1922
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:55,680
Speaker 1: confident in that calf and he's moving around. And one

1923
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 1: of the things that we talked about this Bengals offense

1924
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 1: earlier in season was what do they do besides Jamar Chase.

1925
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 1: So you know, certainly Joe and Jamar will figure it out.

1926
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 1: They are the least of anyone's worries in Cincinnati. The

1927
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 1: fact that they're getting production from all these other players

1928
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 1: on offense, I think is a great sign for the

1929
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:18,680
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals.

1930
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:21,960
Speaker 3: Tyrack dot Com Studios, Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph, let me

1931
01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 3: ask you about a couple of guys out there, because

1932
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to jump to conclusions by any stretch,

1933
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:33,680
Speaker 3: But by the same token, I also believe that you

1934
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 3: know when you see it, and you also know what

1935
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 3: it is, even though you can't define it with words,

1936
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 3: You just you know. You know when you see it,

1937
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 3: and you also know after a period of time when

1938
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:50,439
Speaker 3: you're like, that's not it and mac Jones is not it.

1939
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:55,640
Speaker 3: The Patriots have become the most stale looking franchise in

1940
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:59,360
Speaker 3: the whole NFL. Watching him try to navigate a late

1941
01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 3: game sity situation is pretty painful. I understand the lack

1942
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 3: of weaponry, everything the offense has been through there the

1943
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 3: last couple of years.

1944
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 2: But there are a couple of teams, and the Patriots are.

1945
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 3: One of them that right now would benefit from every

1946
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 3: single loss they can find because there are good quarterbacks

1947
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:23,760
Speaker 3: coming and the Patriots need one.

1948
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 2: Kyle, that's my opinion.

1949
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 1: Well, not only that, but it would We've had so

1950
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:33,599
Speaker 1: many discussions about how you can build rosters and how

1951
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:37,280
Speaker 1: to build rosters successfully, and you're at a decision now

1952
01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:40,000
Speaker 1: you know Mac is finishing up his third year, do

1953
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 1: you give him the fifth year option or you don't.

1954
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 1: You know, certainly we would probably both agree on not

1955
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:49,560
Speaker 1: giving it to him. But it's like, this gives you

1956
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:52,599
Speaker 1: the opportunity to draft your guy that you can now

1957
01:49:52,720 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 1: build the rest of the roster around, so we don't

1958
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 1: have to sit here and talk about the lack of

1959
01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 1: weaponry around whoever's playing quarterback for the New England Patriots,

1960
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:04,920
Speaker 1: so you know you have to It makes it even

1961
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 1: harder to go out there and build the roster if

1962
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:09,640
Speaker 1: you're then going to commit to him long term. So

1963
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:13,200
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's possible. And as I mentioned,

1964
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:15,799
Speaker 1: I feel like their draft position is going to dictate

1965
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:21,559
Speaker 1: that anyway. So certainly they would benefit from as many

1966
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 1: losses as possible to get as high as the draft

1967
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:26,639
Speaker 1: as possible. But also you look at the draft order

1968
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 1: and kind of the way it plays out right now,

1969
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, Chicago can't draft two quarterbacks, so they have

1970
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: two of the top four picks, so it's like, if

1971
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 1: you just get in that top four, you have a

1972
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 1: chance of getting a pretty good quarterback. So it'll certainly

1973
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 1: be interesting the way it all plays out.

1974
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:48,120
Speaker 3: I mean the way I look at it, and I

1975
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:50,600
Speaker 3: wonder how many teams would be on this list for

1976
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 3: you if I said, go through the whole NFL and

1977
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 3: list off the teams who you know for sure don't

1978
01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 3: have their on their roster right now, It's actually stunning

1979
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 3: how few teams you can come up with.

1980
01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 2: For me, the Patriots are one of them.

1981
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 3: But with so many of these teams, like you'd say, oh, well,

1982
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:14,680
Speaker 3: the Titans don't have their quarterback, well do they?

1983
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1984
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:20,240
Speaker 3: Well, Levice has been pretty interesting the last couple of weeks,

1985
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 3: right the Colts lost their rookie right out of the gate,

1986
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 3: he did some interesting things. You know, the New York

1987
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:30,639
Speaker 3: Giants have signed Daniel Jones. I don't know about Sam Howell.

1988
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 3: You just mentioned the Bears. I don't know even the Vikings.

1989
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 3: All the discussion we've had there is Kirk Cousins coming back. Like,

1990
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 3: there's only four teams I think where I can say,

1991
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:49,559
Speaker 3: like with total conviction that their quarterback is not currently

1992
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 3: on their roster. And it's the Patriots, it's the Cardinals,

1993
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 3: it's the Falcons. And as frustrating as this might be

1994
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:03,680
Speaker 3: for for him to hear, I would also say the

1995
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Bucks, like Baker Mayfield is is fine, they

1996
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:11,439
Speaker 3: you know whatever, they can be a possible team, but

1997
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:13,200
Speaker 3: but that's not their future.

1998
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 2: And and those are the only four teams.

1999
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 3: I've got some others where I have my doubts, Jordan love,

2000
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,760
Speaker 3: but but those are the only four where I'm like,

2001
01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 3: they definitely do not have their guy.

2002
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. I think you know,

2003
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 1: you mentioned a few other ones. You know, one that's

2004
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:37,799
Speaker 1: really interesting to me is Washington. You know you mentioned

2005
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:44,080
Speaker 1: Sam How's name. Well, more than likely it's new ownership there.

2006
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:48,959
Speaker 1: You would think that new ownership would come new coaches,

2007
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:52,679
Speaker 1: new quarterback, like they all it's all new, we want

2008
01:52:52,720 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 1: our guy. So that I would add Washington there. I

2009
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 1: would agree with a lot of the other ones.

2010
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 3: It's Chicago, Chicago, but I like, I don't know yet,

2011
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 3: I'm not totally I don't done with Justin Fields, right,

2012
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 3: I'm not one hundred percent sure yet.

2013
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:21,840
Speaker 1: But are you going to pay him fifty million? And

2014
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:24,840
Speaker 1: it's like that's kind of the barometer at this point

2015
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 1: to keep a quarterback. If you're saying he's our guy,

2016
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 1: that's then the next step, Like that's kind of the

2017
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 1: criteria to have a franchise quarterback at this point. It's

2018
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 1: that's where I feel like, if if you're one of

2019
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:42,200
Speaker 1: these teams and we're talking about you, especially this year,

2020
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 1: your best chance are spending forty eight of those million

2021
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:54,879
Speaker 1: dollars elsewhere that year and drafting a rookie quarterback.

2022
01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2023
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:58,640
Speaker 3: Well, when you put it that way, absolutely, I just

2024
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 3: still I still that's the alternative. Yeah, yeah, No, from

2025
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,720
Speaker 3: a financial standpoint, I cannot argue with you at all.

2026
01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 3: Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph, and coming up next, some final

2027
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:12,640
Speaker 3: thoughts and as we head into the fourth quarter of

2028
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 3: Bengals and Bills, we'll get you all up to date

2029
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:16,639
Speaker 3: on that one as well.

2030
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 2: On Fox Sports Radio.

2031
01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:22,560
Speaker 6: Dops back to pass on third down, He stays in

2032
01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:25,440
Speaker 6: the pocket, fires to the end zone, touchdown.

2033
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 1: Brandon Powell looks former Falcon Has Dayton the Atlanta.

2034
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 3: Falcons with a six yard touchdown pass from Josh Dobbs

2035
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:43,560
Speaker 3: thirty twenty eighth Minnesota with twenty seconds ago.

2036
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 2: Let me see here, Kyle, does that? Does that sound

2037
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 2: like a familiar voice to you?

2038
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:51,920
Speaker 1: That is a very familiar call. It's always good to

2039
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:54,520
Speaker 1: hear a Paul Allen touchdown call. I had a few

2040
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 1: of those in my day. PA is the best is

2041
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 1: just so passed. You gotta love his calls, and I

2042
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 1: know he enjoyed that one today.

2043
01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 3: I don't know what and you may know this, What

2044
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:13,000
Speaker 3: does his voice sound like on a Sunday night after

2045
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:16,080
Speaker 3: the game, Because that sounds like a grind.

2046
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:19,440
Speaker 1: Man he does. He leaves it all out there. But then,

2047
01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 1: in typical Pa fashion, he's right back on the radio

2048
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:25,920
Speaker 1: Monday morning at nine am for his nine to noon

2049
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 1: show talking about the Viking some more.

2050
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 3: If my math is correct, he has called forty eight

2051
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 3: Kyle Rudolph touchdowns in his career and yours. That is

2052
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:45,480
Speaker 3: Paul Allen on kfa N one hundred point three FM,

2053
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 3: the Vikings Radio Network as they pull one out a

2054
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 3: rabbit out of the hot for real against the Falcons today.

2055
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:56,120
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2060
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 3: Rudolph in the tire rack dot Com Studios. What do

2061
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 3: you think about tomorrow night's I'm gonna call it the

2062
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 3: Achiever Bowl between the Jets and the Chargers because I

2063
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 3: think the Jets are the biggest underachievers, I'm sorry, the

2064
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 3: biggest overachievers in the NFL, and the Chargers are the

2065
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:30,640
Speaker 3: biggest underachievers in the NFL.

2066
01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 2: So we get the Achiever Bowl on Monday Night Football tomorrow.

2067
01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 1: I think because it's Chargers offense justin Herbert singing the

2068
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:48,840
Speaker 1: football round against the Jets defense, which has been their

2069
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:53,840
Speaker 1: calling card, a big reason why they're still in it

2070
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:57,400
Speaker 1: and still relevant and why they have overachieved to this point.

2071
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:00,200
Speaker 1: I think one of the I things that's interesting in

2072
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just because of the way he played the

2073
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:08,880
Speaker 1: last time they played in primetime on Sunday Night Football

2074
01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 1: against Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, but yeah,

2075
01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how Zach Wilson comes out, because

2076
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, we've all been very hard on Zach Wilson

2077
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:22,200
Speaker 1: and yet more times than not, he plays good enough

2078
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:26,920
Speaker 1: football for them to win. So looking forward to watching

2079
01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 1: that one tomorrow night and seeing how that defense plays

2080
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 1: against the Chargers offense, But then also kind of which

2081
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:36,200
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson shows up.

2082
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:40,879
Speaker 3: I mean, this guy's got a fifty eight percent completion

2083
01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:42,040
Speaker 3: percentage right now.

2084
01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 2: That is that's not a winning percentage.

2085
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 3: He has as many interceptions as he has touchdowns this year.

2086
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:53,959
Speaker 2: That is not a winning formula.

2087
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 3: But everything I'm saying right here goes to my point

2088
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 3: as to why the Jets are are the biggest overachievers

2089
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:01,880
Speaker 3: out there.

2090
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 2: Yes, they do it with defense. Breace Hall has taken.

2091
01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:09,760
Speaker 3: Over backfield as they hoped he would once he was

2092
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 3: fully back and healthy and ready to go. And yeah,

2093
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:15,360
Speaker 3: Zach has gone from the number two pick in the

2094
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 3: draft to a placeholder for whenever Aaron Rodgers can get back,

2095
01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 3: and can he miraculously get back this year.

2096
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 2: But I will give you something for what you're saying there,

2097
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:27,880
Speaker 2: which is.

2098
01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:32,280
Speaker 3: For a guy who puts up those kinds of numbers,

2099
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 3: I tend to find watching quarterbacks with those numbers to

2100
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 3: be kind.

2101
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:39,200
Speaker 2: Of painful and or boring.

2102
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:44,000
Speaker 3: But that's not the case with this guy. There's something,

2103
01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:48,840
Speaker 3: there's a flare in the way he plays. He's able

2104
01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 3: to move with his legs a lot. It's just there's

2105
01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:56,400
Speaker 3: something I don't want to say, like where I'm enamored

2106
01:58:56,440 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 3: with him by any stretch, He's not been that good.

2107
01:58:58,680 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 2: You're right, we've all been really hard.

2108
01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:04,960
Speaker 3: But there's something on TV that shows up and I

2109
01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:07,640
Speaker 3: and I find interesting, and maybe it's just been how

2110
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:09,680
Speaker 3: close their games are. I don't know what it is,

2111
01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 3: but I'm with you. I'm interested to see what he's

2112
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 3: got for us tomorrow night.

2113
01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:17,520
Speaker 1: Well, I think that skill set is why he got

2114
01:59:17,640 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 1: drafted number two overall to the Jets. They got enamored

2115
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 1: with it as well, and it was just kind of

2116
01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 1: that shiny skill set that they got enamored with. And

2117
01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:31,280
Speaker 1: maybe not necessarily the quarterback play in general or as

2118
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:34,360
Speaker 1: a whole, I should say, but you know, I will

2119
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 1: say this and again, I feel like three of those

2120
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:43,120
Speaker 1: interceptions came in one game against the Cowboys. But it's like,

2121
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:46,200
Speaker 1: you you look at just how he's played it a hole,

2122
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 1: It's like, for the most part, he's he's played well

2123
01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:53,760
Speaker 1: enough for that team to win, and he knows with

2124
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:56,120
Speaker 1: Breest Hall in the backfield and the defense on the

2125
01:59:56,160 --> 02:00:00,680
Speaker 1: other side, I don't have to come out here and

2126
02:00:01,640 --> 02:00:04,440
Speaker 1: win the game for us. I just can't lose the game.

2127
02:00:04,480 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's how he played against the

2128
02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:07,640
Speaker 1: Chiefs and they had a really good shot on that

2129
02:00:07,640 --> 02:00:08,640
Speaker 1: Sunday football game.

2130
02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it.

2131
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:14,200
Speaker 3: And then on the other side, justin Herbert, you sort

2132
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:16,640
Speaker 3: of feel like the discussion around him is going to

2133
02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:19,360
Speaker 3: get real interesting if they don't end up making the

2134
02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 3: playoffs this year, which it doesn't feel like they're going to,

2135
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:24,200
Speaker 3: but certainly capable of going on a run.

2136
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Speaker 2: My man.

2137
02:00:25,400 --> 02:00:28,760
Speaker 3: Always fun to talk football with you, so appreciate it

2138
02:00:28,800 --> 02:00:31,040
Speaker 3: again tonight, and I look forward to doing it again

2139
02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:33,520
Speaker 3: next week when we'll watch that Wilson again.

2140
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:36,920
Speaker 1: Yep, look forward to it. Mark, appreciate it.

2141
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:41,120
Speaker 2: There it is for Kyle Rudolph. I'm Mark Willard.

2142
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Speaker 3: Enjoy the rest of your evening playing and spin your

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