WEBVTT - #488 - Akon

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, check it out, Manashi put a coon, don't forget

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<v Speaker 1>check me out on the Bootleg cav podcast See you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, Bootleg cav show Man, we got a special guest

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<v Speaker 2>in here, a living legend Akon in the building's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>What's good? Brother?

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing?

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, he got this new song Going Crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta say congrats. I can't believe it's been twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years since the debut album dropped.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's crazy. I can't even believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time, I flew. It makes me feel like old

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<v Speaker 2>because I just remember. I just remember that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just a few of them records just being on mixtapes,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was like I think Green Lantern had the

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<v Speaker 2>remix of Ghetto Going Crazy, and I'm like, damn, that

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<v Speaker 2>was twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>How does it feel, man?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? It feels amazing, Yeah, because I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty is to me right. It really don't. Like it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like like just a few years made it right.

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<v Speaker 1>Because even now, when I look at my career in

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<v Speaker 1>the business and I'm still relevant in it, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that twenty years went past.

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<v Speaker 2>Right super fast. Yeah, and you've had so much like

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<v Speaker 2>like arms to your business. Like obviously as an artist

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<v Speaker 2>that's one thing, prolific run and it's still going. And

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<v Speaker 2>then as an executive as an newer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think all that played a role. And I

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<v Speaker 1>used to always say that in the beginning as one

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<v Speaker 1>of my advice is just trying to put on his people,

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<v Speaker 1>put on as many people as possible, right, because they

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<v Speaker 1>become the longevity of your career because as long as

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<v Speaker 1>they're out in the marketplace, they always bring your energy around.

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<v Speaker 1>When they see them, they see you. So it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a way of extending your career to the max.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo. How dope is it to have like your brother

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<v Speaker 2>also have his own like success, right, Like Boots had

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<v Speaker 2>so many killing it and he's done so much. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I just found out somebody who was

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<v Speaker 2>behind or somewhere he was right, was like, dam he's

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<v Speaker 2>there now, Like I forget he's doing everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, boo, working man. He was meant to be an

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<v Speaker 1>exec Yeah, Like a lot of people don't know. It

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<v Speaker 1>was Bood that foundy Pain and brought him to me. Crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So he was he came

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<v Speaker 1>in already from an executive mind space.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure. You and Pain Got Us are a

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<v Speaker 2>show coming up at Red Rocks. Yeah, Red Rock Halloween

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<v Speaker 2>Eve thirtieth Grace who headlines at it's actually Pain Show.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's t Pain Show. You're okay.

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<v Speaker 1>He's bringing me out as a special gift.

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<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, How many songs are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see, We'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be crazy. Yo.

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<v Speaker 1>I see.

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<v Speaker 2>So the last time you were on the show, you

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<v Speaker 2>had just had your hair thing done and from Turkey

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about it defensively. You've shaved it all off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I got a new look.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I got a new look.

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<v Speaker 2>So what made you shave off? Because you had you

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<v Speaker 2>went and got the procedure done just to shave it.

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<v Speaker 1>What the thing is, I can always allow it to

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<v Speaker 1>grow back. Okay, that's the beauty of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So for this run, you're like, I'm shaving the head.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you know, it's like it's a lot of maintenance,

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<v Speaker 1>keeping the waves going and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you also look like, you know, you look

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<v Speaker 2>like Trouble Acon right now. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I like I look a little bit younger with it.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, I look a lot younger with it. But

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<v Speaker 1>it feels better too, especially around the summertime when it

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<v Speaker 1>was super hot. I think when it gets cold, I

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<v Speaker 1>might you know, less, some more hair grow or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the case may be.

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<v Speaker 2>But talk to me about like obviously this new record

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful Days dope, but I know like you got to

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<v Speaker 2>you got a new album on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, Yeah, a new album not Guilty, not Guilty. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. Yeah, it's a statement for the culture.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think the culture is under attack right now.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean by that?

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<v Speaker 1>Just in general? I think, you know the way it's

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<v Speaker 1>just such a negative vibration in the music business, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? And I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>it came from just miseducation. But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>like when I look, that's that's one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why I even created a Beautiful Day, because I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like sometimes we take the most. We take a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things for granted. Bro, Like, no matter how

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<v Speaker 1>bad your life is, somebody out there got it worse. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And we're always focusing on what we want or what

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<v Speaker 1>we should have versus what we already have that we

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<v Speaker 1>should be grateful for.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like with any because there's been so

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<v Speaker 2>many negative things happening in the music industry, so many

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<v Speaker 2>people are worried about people getting exposed with the Ditty situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like that because obviously, like we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of all grew up like looking at Ditty and like

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<v Speaker 2>look for Diddy's rights or wrongs, Like he's a mogul,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, He's somebody who we could look at and

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<v Speaker 2>be like, yeah, I want to aspire to be for boss. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>So when something like this happens and it feels like

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be a lot of you know, aftershock

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<v Speaker 2>that might affect other people in the music industry, do

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like like you like there's like a weight

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<v Speaker 2>of that situation in particular, weighing on just the industry

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<v Speaker 2>in general.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's weighing on the whole industry because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think a situation like that can happen without the

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<v Speaker 1>industry's participation, you know what I mean. But for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, the industry always like bread these kind of situations,

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<v Speaker 1>these kind of behaviors, And I think it's at a

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<v Speaker 1>time now where the world itself is just cleansing itself.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I see this more of as a spiritual

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<v Speaker 1>movement than it is something physical or someone being you know,

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<v Speaker 1>directly targeted, if that makes sense, Because this is something

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to be exposed for everyone spiritually to cleanse themselves, emotions,

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<v Speaker 1>their thoughts, all the lives need to come out. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we just need to get back to being human versus

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<v Speaker 1>playing the role of where other people want us to play.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we're at that point now where you're

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<v Speaker 1>forced to now have have to confront all your doings.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think like nature does that spiritually, it does

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<v Speaker 1>it physically, Like like even think about all these hurricanes

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<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff in areas that we never expected

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<v Speaker 1>it to happen. Yeah, all, I mean, the world is

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<v Speaker 1>just cleansing itself, period, and I don't think we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be exempt to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You think there's like a spiritual cleansing for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I feel for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think that is one thing you said, like

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to like certain levels of some of

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff that just became like normal behavior, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody is Yeah, I mean people were ignoring this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean participating and enabling you know. I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>can go all the way back to like some of

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<v Speaker 2>the allegations against like Russell Simmons, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like this kind of behavior isn't new and

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of the worst kept secret. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>where I wonder once all of the like trials and

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<v Speaker 2>start happening, like does security have to play a part

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<v Speaker 2>in getting in trouble? Of course, the assistant, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>who the emails, the person that runs and picks up

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<v Speaker 2>the drugs. You know, there's gonna be so many people, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many people name.

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<v Speaker 1>There's too many elements, and it's nothing that he could

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<v Speaker 1>have personally been able to do by himself. It had

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<v Speaker 1>to be supported by people around him that support the

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<v Speaker 1>whole concept. And I think this is the point where

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's you know, going to be worried. And this's the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why the whole industry is quiet. No one's speaking

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<v Speaker 1>out because as many people that this man has helped

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<v Speaker 1>uplifted and set up to live them lives, their lives,

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<v Speaker 1>will set up their lives of family, you would expect

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<v Speaker 1>someone to come in this defense, but no one's. The

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<v Speaker 1>only person who did was Stevie j I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably the only one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming you haven't been any.

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<v Speaker 1>Freak offs, unfortunately, because I was never a party person, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Any time I see you at any like event, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like you're there on business and.

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<v Speaker 1>You never really see me hanging around with celebrities or

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<v Speaker 1>not that anew because that was never really my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw it as work for perspective, but I

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<v Speaker 1>always thought the mindset of how people or celebrities per

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<v Speaker 1>se think they always felt like they were above everyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't like that attitude.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like, even like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>any time I've ever had encounters with you, you're very

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<v Speaker 2>like you're just a normal dude. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just blessed to be in a position, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're also eight con I get it. I'm popular, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it changed the man though.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, YO, talk to me about something, because obviously

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<v Speaker 2>you have a lot of entrepreneurial stuff. I just opened

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<v Speaker 2>a pizza restaurant here in Burbank, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Helped me too. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard you open one in Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, got yep. I got a three in Atlanta and

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<v Speaker 1>one in Jacksonville that we just opened up, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna spread out to the West Coast as well too.

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<v Speaker 2>Pizza. You should do a collabor we should, man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>right here on the corner. It's right here, and that.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be hard. Yeah, that would be done.

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<v Speaker 2>How has the Pizza game been for you? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Man, amazing? Like bro like it takes I mean literally,

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<v Speaker 1>it only costs eight cents to make.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pizza is the highest it's the highest margin.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like, it's the highest margin for any food

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. It's like, but then it's so good

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a snack. It's also could be a meal.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll never go astordable, it'll never go.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of style. It's like the best business to go

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<v Speaker 1>into if you're talking about food.

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<v Speaker 2>So you guys, you got three of them? Yeah, four

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<v Speaker 2>now four shots to Jacksonville. Man, that's j Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The goal is to get twenty by the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty aycon in the Pizza Game.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any other franchises or anything you're a

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<v Speaker 2>part of that?

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<v Speaker 1>You have, no, no, But the next one's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a jelif Rice fast food restaurant. Oh fire, Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be called it's gonna be fast food like

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald's or Wendy's or whatever. But that's more like African

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<v Speaker 1>cuisine but quick almost like what's that one? Uh Chipotle?

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<v Speaker 2>Chipotle? Yeah, no, that is interesting because there hasn't been

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<v Speaker 2>any I feel like we don't have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>exposure on a commercial level the African food.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. Like we get Jamaican, feel like you can

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<v Speaker 2>get jerk chicken it like.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get Jamaican, you can get Chinese, you can get.

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<v Speaker 2>Time for sure. Yo? What for you? Man? Like talk

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<v Speaker 2>to me just about like your your how how do

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<v Speaker 2>you feel about where we are musically right now? Because

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we've had like a interesting year because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I feel like the Kendrick Drake thing kind

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<v Speaker 2>of took over this year in terms of hip hop,

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<v Speaker 2>at least and at least for me as like a fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciated the fact people were like cared about bars again.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So that was the positivity, and that was the

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<v Speaker 1>positive hip hop back to its essence.

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<v Speaker 2>It did. It also created like the civil War of

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<v Speaker 2>hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But I honestly believe it or not. As much

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<v Speaker 1>as I loved the idea that that happened, I wish

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<v Speaker 1>it would have ended on a shaking hands by gods

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<v Speaker 1>be by gods let them continue, because that's the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing about the hip hop industry, Like when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the LL and Cool Mo d Beef all the

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<v Speaker 1>way back in the day, those boys, after all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>they came back and set an example like listen, this

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<v Speaker 1>friendly competition. You know, they both went at it. You

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<v Speaker 1>know who won, This is what it is, and they

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<v Speaker 1>kept moving on with their careers. And I think sometime

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<v Speaker 1>with this generation, we take things so emotionally personal to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where it goes beyond the competition on wax

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<v Speaker 1>that it can easily like kind yes, easily spill over

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<v Speaker 1>into some real live, you know, beef. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>think that we got to be it. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>change that, that that tone of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think too, like with with this like new

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<v Speaker 2>landscape of fans in the internet right like now fans

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<v Speaker 2>are embolded, they're trying to expose artists.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a lot, Oh my goodness, that man. Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>The vibration of what music is is just it's so

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<v Speaker 1>negative right now, you know what I mean? And I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of it. Honestly, I would kind of

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<v Speaker 1>give my generation, I will say we were partly responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for that too. You know what I mean, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was a different stet like the hip hop

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<v Speaker 1>generation that we came up to on you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>the African Bombardas and all them, Like they always on

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<v Speaker 1>positive messages. It was always party. If it was something

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<v Speaker 1>that that kind of like scrubbed the edge of content,

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<v Speaker 1>it was always about something political that was going on

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<v Speaker 1>in our neighborhoods. Whe we got about like that, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. And then later, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>our generation came, then, you know, gangster rap kind of

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<v Speaker 1>opened the door up for a different era of music

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<v Speaker 1>where street crimes and street you know, you could say,

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<v Speaker 1>politics became something to brag about. It became something that

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<v Speaker 1>you needed to be attached to to make it in

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop, to be relevant or even to be heard,

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<v Speaker 1>or even to be looked at as somebody official. So

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<v Speaker 1>then what happened was this new generation took that and

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<v Speaker 1>really felt like they can glorify being gangster, glorified getting

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<v Speaker 1>shot versus shooting, to the point where you can't be

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<v Speaker 1>a rapper unless you got or like you've been locked

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<v Speaker 1>up or you've been shot, or you've been shot at,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Almost like that becomes your

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<v Speaker 1>calling card or your your your backstage pass to become

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the entertainment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I always say this too, like it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of fans become desensitized to when people die.

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<v Speaker 1>To the point where it's like it's a part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they look at I feel like they're they're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at a lot of these kids as like characters in

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<v Speaker 2>the TV show that they watch on YouTube. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>so if someone dies, they're like, well, I'm gonna leave

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<v Speaker 2>a comment. I know who did it? You know, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's crazy. But you were kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>the the first R and B artist who came into

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<v Speaker 2>the game talking that talk like you before you, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't think of another artist who was singing that was

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, think about locked up, Like yeah, talking about

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<v Speaker 2>your first single was talking about being incarcerated, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a crazy thought to be like, Yo, this is I

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<v Speaker 2>had a singing ass song with style talking about being

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<v Speaker 2>locked up. And that's changed music.

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<v Speaker 1>For Yeah, No, it really did. And I think because

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<v Speaker 1>at the time when I came, R and B was

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<v Speaker 1>really more about begging and love making.

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<v Speaker 2>And being a simp. Yeah, very very s and you

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<v Speaker 2>also kind of came in when the R and B

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<v Speaker 2>group was very popping.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was like edge. Yeah, you had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of boy bands out there, one Twelves and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then on the other side you have the Insyncts

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<v Speaker 1>and the Backstreet Boys and all that stuff. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of was the balance because everything was really

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of happy, go lucky R and B type

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff, whereas that was a whole struggle that was

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<v Speaker 1>being talked about on my album that was just in

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<v Speaker 1>an arm beformed, but lyrically just didn't match.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to know something that I'm curious because

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<v Speaker 2>obviously you you know, you being from where you're from,

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<v Speaker 2>and some of the narrative that's out there about like

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<v Speaker 2>immigrants coming to the United States, right obviously, uh Trump

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<v Speaker 2>famously during the debate talked about that they're eating the cats, They're.

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<v Speaker 1>Eating my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I just wonder, like for you being on

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<v Speaker 2>both sides of like coming into this country as an

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<v Speaker 2>immigrant and then also turning into a very successful entrepreneur, artists,

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<v Speaker 2>you know all of that, Like, like, what are your

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on that kind of whole discussion about like immigration

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like you know, the border being a wild

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<v Speaker 2>place right now? I heard I do I do here

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, it is like a free for all

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<v Speaker 2>low key.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean up, all borders at a certain line

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<v Speaker 1>is free for all because you can't board the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's not enough people to literally lock down

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<v Speaker 1>every border, every entrance, every exit. Right, So I just

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<v Speaker 1>me personally, I just think borders is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>main reasons why people don't get along. I think borders

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<v Speaker 1>is one of our biggest mistakes ever. We should never

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<v Speaker 1>like this is God created this land for us to

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<v Speaker 1>roam through it freely. That should never be a line

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<v Speaker 1>saying Okay, this man can't cross here or this woman

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<v Speaker 1>can't cross here. I don't think we should ever have

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<v Speaker 1>borders at all. Like I think we should be able

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<v Speaker 1>to roam through every parts of the earth as we

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<v Speaker 1>please or see fit. There will be a lot more peace,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. I think people that's in a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>life is not that good or struggle is created in

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<v Speaker 1>that area going naturally want to get away from struggle

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<v Speaker 1>and be in a more comfortable environment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's a person's place to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know, you're not allowed to come to a

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<v Speaker 1>place where you can thrive. And I think that idea

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<v Speaker 1>of it is what creates the problems because even when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Mexico, there's this double line standard as

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<v Speaker 1>to which Mexicans you can let in and which ones

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. There's a lot of illegal Mexicans that's working

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<v Speaker 1>in America.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh tons, yeah, I mean I don't know if the

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<v Speaker 2>country would the country would not function out without without

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<v Speaker 2>the labor.

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<v Speaker 1>That it's impossible, right, So you can't try to set

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<v Speaker 1>a line now saying Okay, well they're illegal, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're hiring illegals, like what's the point and then you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even give them a Social Security number to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get a legitimate check. And then you're down

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<v Speaker 1>waging them and giving them lower rages and they're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to naturally get or paying them cast or there's no

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<v Speaker 1>tax involved. So now you implicating yourself. So it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a wrong on both sides. We can just all

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<v Speaker 1>be human and just work together, because believe me, I

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<v Speaker 1>love going to Mexico. I love having a great time

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<v Speaker 1>in Cancun or wherever the place may be, or going

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<v Speaker 1>even into the further parts of Mexico. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day. I think that the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>that that that border exists creates opportunity for more craziness

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<v Speaker 1>to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how did your family come over?

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<v Speaker 1>My mom and dad, they came in as they came

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<v Speaker 1>in legally, but they made sure that we were all

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<v Speaker 1>born in the US, so we would have no problems

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<v Speaker 1>with immigration in the fast. So my dad was he thought,

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<v Speaker 1>in the few we have kids in the US, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can take them back, because that's that

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. After all us was born, he shipped us

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<v Speaker 1>all back to Africa. Who was raised you know, came

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<v Speaker 1>in speaking Spanish, French. We didn't speak English until we

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<v Speaker 1>got through America.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn you So you speak how many languages for four?

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<v Speaker 2>That is crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your like the dialect and senegalgue? Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well off is the native tongue?

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<v Speaker 2>That's dope. Many are you leaning in either direction? In

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<v Speaker 2>terms of the presidential election? At this point, I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people come to the Trump side that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not would have been on its side four years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and versa.

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<v Speaker 1>And vice versa. I think politics is just a big

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<v Speaker 1>game of who can convince who that they belong to

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<v Speaker 1>be that they need to be. Me personally, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that we do need a woman leader. Even if it

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<v Speaker 1>was I think it's kind of overdue, right, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's overdue because one thing about women, they their motivation

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<v Speaker 1>is family. And I think the rules, the laws, the

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<v Speaker 1>bills that family is going to pass will be more

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<v Speaker 1>catered to family versus what Trump would pass. Trump from

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<v Speaker 1>a male's perspective, our motivation is power, So the bills

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<v Speaker 1>that we pass are always going to be something that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to always have a conversation between two parties where

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<v Speaker 1>a war can either break out or somebody's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to be set an example of to show that

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<v Speaker 1>we have that we have strength. Right. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>now for America specifically and most a lot of parts

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<v Speaker 1>of the world, we need more women leaders.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And because women just they just naturally manage households better

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<v Speaker 1>than men.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I think there's a certain level of compassion

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<v Speaker 2>that is we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Sing in politics specifically because what's happening in Gaza to.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, zero compassion, none, and that's crazy to me, it

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<v Speaker 2>is heartbreaking, It's unbelievable, it is heartbreaking. I saw a

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<v Speaker 2>video today that really fucked me up.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like every day I open Twitter and I

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<v Speaker 2>just it ruins my mood for an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you.

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<v Speaker 2>Happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not even necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's wild, you know. And the other thing too,

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<v Speaker 2>is like, uh, you know, Gaza is such a a

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<v Speaker 2>very sad situation and I'm glad that it's also I've

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<v Speaker 2>been noticing on Twitter more people are talking about what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on in the Congo too, right, with these with

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<v Speaker 2>these the mines for the battery materials and all that,

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<v Speaker 2>and because that's a whole other.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a whole other man. Every single all of the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that we go in there all come from elements

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<v Speaker 1>coming from Africa.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you see the video of these mines, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't think you would think it was cgi right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's eighty thousand people stacked on top of each other, babies,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, women and mothers carrying babies on their back

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<v Speaker 2>while they're mining for them. Right, It's so crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unbelievable. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yo, talk to me. I saw what is going

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<v Speaker 2>on with with the city, with your city, because I

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<v Speaker 2>saw that that synagogue city you had like a deadline

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<v Speaker 2>and give me the update on what's going, because a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people calling you, like saying it was a scam,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what is happening?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, First of all, it's a city.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's clear it up.

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<v Speaker 1>No city is built in twenty four hours, right. A

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<v Speaker 1>house takes twelve months, sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>For th teams, sometimes longer.

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<v Speaker 1>We're building literally a city, right, it's gonna take time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the mistake that I made was promoting it

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<v Speaker 1>while the concept was being put together. So what happened

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<v Speaker 1>was people already assumed that it existed and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. So while we're trying to put together the licenses,

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<v Speaker 1>getting all the suits, the feasibility studies going on, the

0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.639
<v Speaker 1>environmental studies and all of that's happening, the world is

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<v Speaker 1>looking at Acon City as if the construction had.

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<v Speaker 2>Already because you had already started talking about it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, but these are all mistakes that you

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<v Speaker 1>make as you go. Right now, the process is still

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<v Speaker 1>in motion. Things are already moving and as time go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I've been keeping a light, quiet conversation when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the city until we get further into

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<v Speaker 1>the project to where I can start having real conversations

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<v Speaker 1>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you like, are you and Senegogu like good in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of just like oh yeah, we want to they're

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<v Speaker 2>up to up.

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<v Speaker 1>To date on everybody's up to date. Everything is, everything

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<v Speaker 1>is on the up.

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<v Speaker 2>And have you seen this just unrelated, but have you

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<v Speaker 2>seen this thing that they're building And I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>in Dubay, that long.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet limb that's in Saudi Arabia.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is crazy. And interestingly enough, the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>put together that whole master plan is to that I

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<v Speaker 1>just brought on board to help me arrange some ideas

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<v Speaker 1>over the city.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for people who don't know they're building this like

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<v Speaker 2>long steel city.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It is something that you would see like in like

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<v Speaker 2>a sci fi movie as a kid, right, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>actually doing it. It's like I saw a staff that

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<v Speaker 2>like they're using like twenty or thirty percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>world's steel manufacturing is going to that city right now,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're building this city in the middle of the desert.

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<v Speaker 1>In the middle of the desert, and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's this long, it looks it looks it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like a line. Yeah, it's fucking nuh. And that whole line.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything will be inside it, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Like everything you need, grocery stores, gyms, entertainment, subways, transportation. Crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you're in there, you're in there.

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<v Speaker 2>So you brought that guy on to help.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one of the guys that did the master plan

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<v Speaker 1>is working with men.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fucking awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. No, No, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to get a little condo over there, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>You're definitely gonna have a spot in Limp for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>How for you, man? Like what is I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we're also in like a cool era where a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, I just we forgot juveniles weed sitting here.

0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:08.159
<v Speaker 2>But Juvie's on tour with Manny Fresh doing his his

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fifth anniversary of four hundred degrees. I mean, Tea

0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Pains have such a crazy touring renaissance. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we're to the point now where we're kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>appreciating guys like yourself and like the era of music

0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:21.959
<v Speaker 2>because like you said, the vibrations and music have been

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<v Speaker 2>so low and whatever we said earlier about like yeah

0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.479
<v Speaker 2>that like like obviously drug dealing and shoot shoot them

0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:29.800
<v Speaker 2>uphit was glorified during your era, which I which was

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<v Speaker 2>my era too, But also there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>music that was just fun right right, Like you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, Like if I think you're like your

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<v Speaker 2>biggest records, like they're just fun right. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, Like do you feel like that's what's missing

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<v Speaker 2>right now? Is like artists are like kind of getting

0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:50.040
<v Speaker 2>away from just like yo, Like people need music to

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<v Speaker 2>live to. People know they do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think today they're too cool to have fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you've been to almost like being fun is

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<v Speaker 1>being soft.

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<v Speaker 2>And you go to a nightclub, everyone's standing around, mean

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<v Speaker 2>mugging in five bottles. Right, everybody is too tense. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's way too much man. Like With us, it was

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<v Speaker 1>different because when you did get that energy, it stayed

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<v Speaker 1>on the record because regardless of what it is, when

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<v Speaker 1>you came out, everybody was still cool. But on the record,

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<v Speaker 1>it was on the record. It's been as usual. But

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<v Speaker 1>when they meet up in person, they lined up and

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<v Speaker 1>get you on that next record. They to watch, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. It was different because we understood

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<v Speaker 1>that it was still entertainment. Today they think entertainment is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be life, and life has to be reflected

0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.400
<v Speaker 1>in that entertainment, and that's where it gets dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious now that, like, you know, we've had this,

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<v Speaker 2>like fifty cent has been prolific with the television shows.

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:42.919
<v Speaker 2>BMF's a big show. Now Big Meach is out. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really curious it's gonna happen with Meach because he

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<v Speaker 2>could like have the number one podcast in hip hop

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<v Speaker 2>if he like, if he like did a podcast tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>or did like I mean that that there's a very

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<v Speaker 2>successful stars show about his life and now he's free.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's free. But Meach is one of probably the

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<v Speaker 1>smartest dudes I've ever met, man and all that, but

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:04.520
<v Speaker 1>he's already got a plan on what he's gonna do

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:05.800
<v Speaker 1>when you get out, I promise.

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 2>And he's in a halfway house, right, he's out right

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<v Speaker 2>out in Florida. So you've met Meach before?

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, you know the cool guy in my family,

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you go into these crazy parties where they had

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<v Speaker 2>like tigers and ship and while yeah.

0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we used to go to all those guys crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the craziest thing he's he in at a beach party?

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of like just animal.

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<v Speaker 1>Animals, because it's like it's a hood like niot the

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<v Speaker 1>hell you know, tigers and ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know what I'm saying, like like what babysitting Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He was a visionary though, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>place to his advantage because he thinks beyond the average person,

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<v Speaker 1>because he knows that whatever it is in your mind

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<v Speaker 1>that you think you can actually make it happen, you's

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<v Speaker 1>got to work towards and get the find the money

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<v Speaker 1>to get it done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You know recently you you were a part of

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<v Speaker 2>uh Vitalities been doing these things on child predators. Yeah,

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:54.240
<v Speaker 2>and I would say the most viral run he did

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<v Speaker 2>was when the arrested child predator and You're standing there

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:02.680
<v Speaker 2>singing locked up to this guy. It was hilarious. Tell

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 2>me about that situation because obviously I'm sure did Vitality

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 2>did he bag you out to do that? Because I mean,

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:08.920
<v Speaker 2>he was getting everyone in their mom on that show.

0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 1>He was he was he was already getting everybody on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt like everybody approached it in such a

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<v Speaker 1>a in a negative way, really, right. But at the time,

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:20.159
<v Speaker 1>I was promoting my twentieth anniversary of Trouble, and I

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:22.679
<v Speaker 1>feel like this would be a perfect opportunity to do

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<v Speaker 1>that while at the same time utilizing those kind of

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<v Speaker 1>platforms and find different ways to market and promote and

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:32.160
<v Speaker 1>lo and behold, Whack whack one hundred. Big shotsta wa

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Wack called me. Was like, yokahn, hey man, I got

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<v Speaker 1>batality Man. He wants to do this thing with you

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<v Speaker 1>with the predators. I said, what you mean predators like

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<v Speaker 1>off the top. I was like, nah, you know what, wag,

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that. But then he was like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you check out man game just did it. You know,

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 1>all these dudes did and everything, And so I checked

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<v Speaker 1>and looked and I was like, oh, this is actually

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<v Speaker 1>not bad.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. I mean, you're of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you know what this is, this is this,

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<v Speaker 1>this would be perfect. So then that's when we reached

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<v Speaker 1>out and then we have batalitly conversated on what he

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<v Speaker 1>was going doing, and he's like, yeah, this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So my thing is, like you know, I always say,

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of people have been like critical of

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:10.439
<v Speaker 2>him for doing it the way he is doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm like, who cares? Who cares? I think those people,

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<v Speaker 2>even if they never get arrested. The fact that they're

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:20.440
<v Speaker 2>publicly out there is shame. Yes, that's enough, Like great,

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:22.240
<v Speaker 2>because I hope your life is ruined.

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it was crazy, like even the one

0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:27.479
<v Speaker 1>that we did, the episode we did, I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>this dude, I'm like, he's not even all the way there. Mentally,

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.639
<v Speaker 1>he's not like you could tell he's not he's sane,

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 1>but he's definitely.

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but now people know what he looks like, so

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<v Speaker 2>now they eat the job or if he works around kids.

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 2>It's like, how you know, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Felt bad for him at the time it was happening.

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Even though I was smiling and doing it. I knew

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that this was going to change his life because I

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<v Speaker 1>know this is something he don't never want to go

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:51.439
<v Speaker 1>through again. But in my mind, I'm like, man, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>should have been there. That video had his converse because

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I can tell that he wasn't all there.

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.679
<v Speaker 2>He well, yeah, that sh it was I'm not gonna lie.

0:25:58.680 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 2>It was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>It was he got a fee was.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny saying they like they did you talk to the cops?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but see at the time the cops say't know

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 1>he was gonna do that because they probably would have

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>told us we couldn't do it, so we ain't say

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<v Speaker 1>nothing about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, like the cops are like, yeah, I'm a fan,

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 2>like uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah afterwards afterwards, one of the cops like, men, I

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted to bust out laughing so bad, but I couldn't.

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Imagine you go to work that day, you don't know

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:22.400
<v Speaker 2>that you're about to arrest the child predator while AKN

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 2>performs locked Up. That is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>That was too funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, Yo, have you watched uh The New Joker too,

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<v Speaker 2>with your girl lady guy guy in it? Yeah? What

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.160
<v Speaker 2>were your thoughts? It's getting panned critically.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, but you understand, like she's always been

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 1>an amazing actress artist.

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 2>All that Star Is Born is one of the best

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 2>movies ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you, bro, she's a three sixty everything. Yeah,

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the way I look at it, those critics are always critics,

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 1>always gonna attack you, But to me, when they attack it,

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>and I mean, that was that was that was a

0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 1>piece that was well worth doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's how did you like the movie?

0:26:59.040 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I like the movie?

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<v Speaker 2>You liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the movie.

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just I think it just wasn't what a

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of people expect. It's almost like The Wire season two.

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:06.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've ever watched The Wire.

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>No, I haven't seen that.

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, The Wire season two was like it just took

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 2>a crazy left turn and everybody didn't appreciate it until

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 2>years later.

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but I think with me, it was a

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 1>little different because I kind of already knew what it

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>was going to be, and I've already seen the storyline

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:22.120
<v Speaker 1>already to know what that was going to be, versus okay,

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:24.199
<v Speaker 1>anticipating something and then getting something different.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you I wonder you know, with what a lot

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 2>of artists have been doing with selling their catalog, your

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:35.199
<v Speaker 2>catalog's got to be pretty unprecedented in terms of just

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:37.880
<v Speaker 2>all the stuff you've been a part of, whether it's

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 2>the Tea pain stuff, the Lady God Got stuff, your

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:43.160
<v Speaker 2>own solo stuff, all of that stuff. Have you been

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 2>approached for the catalog thing and have you sold anything?

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I think everybody's been approached for it, because

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>that's the game. Yeah, when you look at the catalog stuff,

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I think for the most artists out there, if you

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>do have an extensive catalog. Hold on to it, don't

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>sell it.

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:56.959
<v Speaker 2>So you haven't sold anything.

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 1>Hold on to it.

0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:59.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah for you, it's like it's got to be just

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.359
<v Speaker 2>like it's residual income.

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Everyone what people don't also have mis calculators that the

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 1>industry is changing and technology is moving into the future.

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>So in a minute, there's gonna be like licensing music

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:17.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be the driver for everything on the internet

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>and everything on the metaverse. Metaverse is going to be

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the future of entertained. I mean in a period.

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I say this too. It's like, if all of these

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.879
<v Speaker 2>private equity firms are buying up catalog, they might know

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 2>something we don't know exactly. So it's like you might

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:33.400
<v Speaker 2>just want to hold out.

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Unless you need the money to survive. Hold on to it.

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what did you get an official offer?

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm just curious, like, oh no, I got I got

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know.

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 2>How can you share what's like the craziest offer you got?

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>No, Because then it's gonna it's gonna convince others to sell.

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't want them to sell.

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it'd be close to a billion dollars.

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't want them to sell like.

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 2>You're the amount of like, like the amount of records

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 2>that you probably old cuts up. It's just kind of

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 2>be fucking insane.

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, it's unbelievable.

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's wild yo for you man. Uh, what

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 2>is what is the direction of your new album?

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 1>That the direct? Oh, I can't wait for y'all to hear.

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna change the game from a perspective

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>of just the energy of what music is now versus

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 1>where it needs to go. I really do believe that

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna put more smiles on

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>people's faces. It's gonna change the energy of records that

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>make you feel good or music that felt good period

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 1>in times where you needed to hear something to kind

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>of put you through something.

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is there any homage to like the sound to

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 2>your first album?

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think if you like the first album, this

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>second album, the first this You know what, if I

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 1>had to put this album in category of any of

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>my three albums, I would say it was it was

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a mix of all three albums for this album.

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's dope.

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it would definitely be a mix of all three albums.

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Because I realized I built three different bases because the

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>first album was more of a hip hop bas for audience.

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Then the second album was more rhythmic, cross album pop.

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Third album was popped. Yeah. So this, this album that

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm putting out, A Not Guilty, gives you a number

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>of all of that.

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious man, Like, from a radio perspective, when you

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 2>would meet program directors, did they ever give you hell

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 2>about how hard you made their job because there was

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 2>just no artist separation? Yeah?

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, listen, interesting enough you brought that up. The

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>reason why they created that artist separation law was because

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>of what I was doing.

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it was like, Yo, every a coon z

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 2>on fucking everything, and then after you it was t

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Pain's on fucking everything. And then Lil Wayne had that Runner.

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 2>He was on fucking everything. And now Drake is just like,

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's crazy.

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>It was crazy, but that's why he did it for sure.

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, it's it's wild too because like for a

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 2>while there, like you were like everybody needed an acon hook.

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Was there a feature that you almost did that didn't

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 2>end up coming out, or maybe something you cut that

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't end up dropping, or something that almost happened that

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>didn't because you because you worked with so many artists.

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so many. It was actually a record that I

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>did with Nicki Minaj. It never dropped, it'd never dropped,

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>but it was I think would have been probably one

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>of my biggest pop records.

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Wow, what year was this?

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>This happened in twenty seventeen.

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, this is recent recent, that.

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Is, But back then I would probably say the one

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 1>that didn't come out was me And who was that?

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Can I e remember which one it was? Ooh, well,

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 1>the one that didn't come out but then eventually came

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>out after was doing with Michael Jackson. Ah, because that

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>was supposed.

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 2>To come out while he was while he was alive.

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 1>But then it was a lot of complication on the

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>release between Universal and Sony on the negotiations of it,

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and then when Mike passed, the song went to his

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>estate and then two years later they ended up putting

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>it out.

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Did you end up having any conversations with Mike when

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 2>he was alive, Oh?

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, he was. He was my road dof for

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>like two years before he passed.

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's crazy.

0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>He was doing a lot of work together and then

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>he was also doing a lot of new music that

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to drop for his tour that he was

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>doing in the UK.

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 2>What was something like just being around Michael Jackson. Obviously

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>there's so many misconceptions about him, Yeah, too many. I

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 2>feel like a lot of people also didn't really know.

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Him, They didn't know him at all.

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 2>What would you say your experience of being with him

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 2>was this? Man?

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I wish the world would have gotten to

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>see and know him the way I did, because you

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>were And then I also realized why he was probably

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the biggest artist on the planet. His heart drove everything

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>that he did. His focus was always on kids and

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>how he can mentally put them in a position to

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>conquer anything and also physically put them in the environments

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>to be able to conquer whatever those dreams were. Because

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>he was one of those kind of kids that didn't

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>have a childhood. Yeah, because he grew up as child star.

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>So that's why his adult years he was so attached

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>to things that kids do, because he was free enough

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and rich enough to do those things that he never

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>got a chance to do, but he couldn't do it

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 1>with other adults. So he made sure that other kids

0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 1>that didn't have the means to do it, were around

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>or was able to get that experience, you know what

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean?

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 2>And you guys worked on a lot of music down Yeah,

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 2>how many unreleased songs are well at least ideas?

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Did you get to be a endless amount of ideas?

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Endless amount of ideas? I wish I could chop them

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>things up and put them out today, but does.

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 2>The state have them?

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Well? I got them, but I could never put them

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>out because I don't think the state wouldever.

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Everything sounds good though, that dude, you just got wrang

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Michael Jackson vocals just chilling. We'll never hear. That's what's crazy.

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>That's the worst, Yo, that's crazy.

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine? Yo? Did you have you and T

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Pain ever discussed doing a joint project?

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Actually it's something that we're discussing now and believe

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>it or not, that's why we're starting to do more

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>appearances together, you know what I'm saying, to kind of

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>start getting that energy to see where the crowd is

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>often like what their energy is before we starting to

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>announce and starting things.

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I think that would be monumental if you

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 2>and T Pain did like a like a ten song

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 2>banger or something, like that.

0:33:56.040 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>We definitely it's overdue, way overdue, but it's better. It's

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>better that we can do it now that we're both independent.

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think like it's.

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Because now we can do it the way we want

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>to do it.

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 2>Without all the red tape and all that bullshit. Right,

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 2>it's so it's crazy for people who don't know, like

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:14.959
<v Speaker 2>t Pain. Uh, he said that like he really took

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:18.280
<v Speaker 2>a gamble signing with you, because.

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think it was a gamble. I would

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 1>say he took a leap of faith.

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 2>It was a leap of faith because he had other

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 2>opportunities on the table with big money.

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.439
<v Speaker 1>Bob, major up opportunities, but he went with you.

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 2>And at the time, you have an unproven concept. Convict

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 2>music was just you.

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>It was just just me.

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 2>So like like he really kind of like you know,

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 2>just believed and he did and believed in me, and

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 2>then you know, the world has changed in music forever.

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because all I thought all I could offer him

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>at that time was a career. Yeah, I couldn't give

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>him the upfront money that he's looking for, but I

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:52.879
<v Speaker 1>knew one thing rock on me. I'm gonna make sure

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:54.879
<v Speaker 1>that you can be able to feature family forever, Yo,

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:56.799
<v Speaker 1>And it worked out. It worked out, for sure, It

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>did work out.

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Yo. Was there anybody who you almost signed the Convict

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Music but it just didn't end up happening Young Thug? Really?

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we had his first record, Stoner that was on Convict.

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 2>That was on Stoner was on Convict.

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>We pushed that one, so it was it was a

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>single deal. I was supposed to go into an actual

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>full album artist deal. But when that record blew up, of.

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Course everybody came in everywhere else.

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>And uh, that's how that went in up.

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I did not know Stoner was on Convict Music

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 2>because I do.

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I wor you worked that record. That That's how I

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.399
<v Speaker 1>met Ojibu Dirty. Actually, Wow, I met Ojibu Dirty as

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>we was uh doing all the promo.

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.879
<v Speaker 2>Stuff for the and uh, did you guys at least

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 2>obviously despite him not staying with you, did you guys

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 2>keep a good relationship?

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No, it was I mean, I know, business, yeah,

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>but you know, and the decisions he made actually worked

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 1>out for him because he had an amazing career for sure.

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean his situation I think is uh. I

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 2>was just talking with jelly Roll, my boy jelly Roll

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:57.799
<v Speaker 2>and he was saying, if he got his jelly roll,

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 2>he's so dope, he's amazing. Yeah, we just he just

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 2>got the number now in the country right now. I

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 2>love Yeah, he's incredible. But we're talking. I was on

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 2>the road with him a few days last week. Oh

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:10.760
<v Speaker 2>that's dope, and we were talking about the thug situation

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:14.320
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, man, if he gets out, he

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 2>better sue the fuck out of because it's been the

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 2>longest trial they've it's been so much malpractice. It would

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 2>seem with the prosecutor and Fanny Willis and all them, like, yeah,

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 2>with thugs, he might have a civil suit on his hands.

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 2>If he ends up getting exonerated.

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be interesting to see where that goes, for sure.

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's gonna be h. It's definitely gonna be interesting. Man,

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 2>for you bred Like, what's next for you outside of

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 2>all like the Icon City, the new music or is there?

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna do a book or you gonna do

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 2>a podcast?

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Or what are you doing? Man? We're doing all of it.

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 1>We got Convict media coming where it's gonna be a list.

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I actually just acquired uh what used to be uh

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>what's called lit Radio now but before then it was

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Dash Radio, yeah, which was yeah so.

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Wait yeah Dash the Skis thingj.

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Ski is a company out of all Australia that bought it, okay,

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>and then we acquired into that company and now we

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>named it lit Lit Radio. Yeah, Lit Radio, So it's

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 1>not not only it's gonna be podcast, but it's gonna

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>be streaming and everything else like that.

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I think Dash, at least from what I remember,

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:18.399
<v Speaker 2>it was available in like Ford. Was it Ford Vehicles?

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah it was.

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.320
<v Speaker 2>So you're a part owner of that now yeah.

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Wow, yeah, we took the whole platform.

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's big man. Yeah. I always wondered, like DJ Ski,

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 2>that dude right there, I'm super smart bro, and he's

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 2>always finding people to give him money.

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Listen, he's the perfect Yeah when I tell you, Ski,

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, he pulls it out of a hat

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>every time, every time.

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Because like Dash has been around. Always just was like thinking, like,

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm a radio guy, right right, So I

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.280
<v Speaker 2>always was just like how do they make money?

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Like it just keeps getting I'm like, how where are

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 2>they getting all this money?

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Ski Ski is like he's like a master uh uh,

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 1>a networker. He knows how to find but he's a

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 1>great picture too, Yeah, and he knows how to present

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:05.960
<v Speaker 1>it to where you see the division.

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm curious man. Like you've been on so many

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:13.720
<v Speaker 2>different sides of the music industry, it feels like there's

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 2>some sort of energy where at least I feel like

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 2>artists need to try to start figuring out a way

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 2>to push out, push off of these DSPs a little

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 2>and go go back to going direct a consumer, whether

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 2>it's dropping vinyls, whether it's dropping you know, merch. I

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know if have you heard of Larussell, the kid Larrussell,

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 2>who's he's out in the Bays doing like super independent.

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 2>He's doing these concerts in his backyard. Wow, and you

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 2>have to pay, like you pay what you want to

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:43.439
<v Speaker 2>go to the show. So the's got some people paying

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 2>ten thousand dollars to come see him live and some

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 2>people paying ten dollars.

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 1>You know. That's so dope.

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>But I wonder where do you kind of forecast the

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 2>industry going. I feel like we were at least ten

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 2>years into the streaming era.

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Now yeah, we end. I think there's going to be

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 1>a model that allows artists to now again go back

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to selling something physical, even if it's a combination of music,

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 1>more merch and something digital asset to get you know,

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>to connect with it. But I do believe that the

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 1>streaming aspect of it is not making no sense for

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 1>us at all. Still. It's just to the point where

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a model that comes in that knocks

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>that out unless the stream is coming start actually getting.

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Paying fairly something fairly Yeah, because the Spotify page your

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 2>thirty eight hundred bucks, you get a million streams, Like,

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't make sense. Crazy, a million people listening to

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 2>this or a million times and I'm only getting four grand, Like, yeah,

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 2>that's that's crazy.

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:27.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:30.839
<v Speaker 2>I think it's just, you know, I think there has

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 2>to be like something like do you feel like major

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 2>labels are even like net Like, would you rather be

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 2>independent at this point? Or like if you're let's say

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 2>you're a con twenty years ago coming into the game,

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 2>you got a buzz going, you gotta mixtape buzz going,

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:48.839
<v Speaker 2>do you feel like a label is necessary?

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Still? No, Not for me for sure. I mean that's

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:53.359
<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm independent now.

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 2>But I'm talking about even if you're like a new artist,

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 2>you're fucking a contract as self fund.

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Right as a newer artist, I think depending on what

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 1>it is they're doing. Right, if you're more of a

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 1>novelty artist, you know, you underground, you're trying to build

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>a swell to where you're not looking for this big

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 1>major career, definitely go independent. But if you're doing things

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 1>like top forty pop music, you kind of you're not

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 1>going to survive in an independent era.

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:22.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I always say if you're a pop artist and that's

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.760
<v Speaker 2>the goal, yeah, pop, you kind of need the machine.

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you need you should build unless you got unless

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 1>you unless you got someone like DJ Ski is going

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>to raise the money for you.

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Or you have like a dope like creative like

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 2>partnership with the distribution company that still lets you keep

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 2>your masters. They'll give you an advance and like there's

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 2>some sort of like hybrid deal of the two like

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Empire or something.

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, Empire has actually actually been a good

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 1>model for the revenue model for independent artists. I think

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 1>they've done a really really good.

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Jobeah, they got Shaboozie, The biggest song on Billboard this

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:57.959
<v Speaker 2>year is a technically it's a you know, Shaboozi owns

0:40:58.000 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 2>all that, you know, like he owns the Masters.

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.720
<v Speaker 1>They're done a really really good job, you know, because

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I think when you look at how Empire did it,

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>they took up a major uh uh position and they

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 1>actually start spending the money that's necessary, you know what

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So I think from a perspective of independent,

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:17.759
<v Speaker 1>it's really about the purse, just having the funding to

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:19.360
<v Speaker 1>do it. But then you got to be connected to

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>people that know who is the shakers and bakers in

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 1>the business.

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like, you know, we see this so much.

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 2>I always tell artists like, you could have all the

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 2>money in the world, if you don't know where to

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 2>spend it, then your fuck don't make sense because we

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 2>how many people have we seen who have got the

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:35.879
<v Speaker 2>dope boy behind him driving stupid money? Athletes, Ah my.

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Goodness, every act got a label, like they just throw

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 1>money out the window and it's never worked. It's never worked.

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the only one that's ever worked with Shack.

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, he was a major. He was rapping a major.

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he had Platinum. The reason he's the only

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 2>one I'm talking about, Carmelo Anthony had a label. I'm

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 2>already Stodamayer had a label. Uh of the.

0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Durand even the ones you don't know God.

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Labels, and no one gives a right because they're just

0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 2>they're just thinking because they got money. It's like, bro,

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 2>that's not you gotta know where to spend it. You

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 2>got to you gotta be smart like money, like like

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 2>money's one thing, but knowing what to do.

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 1>With it is.

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Otherwise you're just a tax right off. Absolutely, yeah. How

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 2>by the way, I'm curious, when you're like the level

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 2>of wealthy that you are, do you have like any

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.800
<v Speaker 2>tax loophole, like a tidbitch you could share with the people,

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 2>like anything I just think about taxes, bro, anything you

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 2>could like write off the people don't think about.

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Like right, listen, the best and the smartest advice I

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:33.919
<v Speaker 1>can give you just follow all the rules to the tea.

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 1>You can never listen. This is the part that I

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>understand about people trying to evade taxes. It don't make sense,

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 1>first of all, because what happens is you got money

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 1>sitting in a bank or in a trust front, or

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 1>it just sits there anyway. Right, It's like it literally

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>just you can't spend all that money in a lifetime.

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 1>So what is the point, right, So my thing is

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 1>spend as much of it as possible that you can

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>write off so you can get a portion of that bat.

0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's literally that simple. It's that easy. I always say, like,

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 2>if you know you got a big tax bill coming up,

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 2>just start spending. What are some things you can invest in? Boom, Like, okay,

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I need new cameras, Boomed, I need a vehicle that

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 2>weighs over six thousand pounds.

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 1>There you go. You feel what I'm saying.

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Once you learn the rules of what's needed. Just people

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 2>a private jet, right, because that's a rite off. That's

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:23.839
<v Speaker 2>the write off if you've got a business a PJ.

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 1>And really what's so dope is that when you when

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you know how if you when you

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:31.839
<v Speaker 1>do follow the rules and you actually write it off,

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 1>that money comes back to you. So it's almost like

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 1>everything that you bought you getting for free.

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, or that's what I say, really say, when it's

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 2>time to if you're a business owner and that and

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 2>and you know taxes are coming, you know you're gonna

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 2>have a bill, you can either buy some ship that's

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:48.400
<v Speaker 2>useful to your business or give it away. To the government.

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Pick one, you got to pick one?

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Any idea when the new album's coming out. I know

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 2>you got a new single in December, right.

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's going to open the door for the actual

0:43:57.600 --> 0:43:58.880
<v Speaker 1>album that's going to drop in Februar.

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:02.919
<v Speaker 2>Fully Independent, Fully Independent. I love I love it. What's

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:04.799
<v Speaker 2>going on with Kobe o'donna's random question?

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what, this is the fourth person that

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 1>asked me about him. He's actually gonna be performing at

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 1>the My My show in a couple of days, and would.

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Drive him to believe his weird, weird ass dad alone. Like

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 2>I met him at a high school mixed tour ones

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.840
<v Speaker 2>when I was an intern, and Kobe O'donna's dad creeped

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 2>me the funk out. But Yo, he was dope. He

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 2>was so talented.

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Listen, can I tell you Kobe was justin Bieber before

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:29.760
<v Speaker 1>just he was super talented. He was the most unbelievable

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:32.799
<v Speaker 1>talent that I've had ever signed. But unfortunately, Yeah, his

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:34.919
<v Speaker 1>dad was in the middle of the lot of the business. Yeah,

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:37.800
<v Speaker 1>but now he's open, he's grown, he's free and unfortunate.

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Three years ago his dad actually passed away.

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:43.839
<v Speaker 2>He is actually moving his dad. I do feel bad

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 2>for saying that. But how's your relationship these days with

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:49.399
<v Speaker 2>Go Go? You guys ever talk?

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we talk, We talk as well.

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like if you and t Paine do

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 2>a joint album, you gotta have her on the fucking album.

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Come on, now, it'd be crazy. Gotta happened. Well, my my,

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>my oh is to get all of us together on

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 1>something super super big. I don't care if it's gonna

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 1>be a world tour whole album, but I just want

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 1>to bring the whole family together as one celebration of

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>all the stuff that we did and contributed to the business.

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Now for sure, man, we'll listen. Your legend the new

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 2>song is out. Everybody should go run that up. Anything

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 2>else people can support you on right now. But you know,

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 2>obviously you gotta do you still have the crypto Huh?

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Is the crypto coin still thing?

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh? That's on pause. It was too political. I couldn't

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 1>get it was start mixing up with my real business.

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know much about it. Listen. I know

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 2>I lost money on fucking ripple.

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we all lost money on that stuff. But for

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:40.480
<v Speaker 1>for that specific me, it was more political because my

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:41.919
<v Speaker 1>coin was never even in the us.

0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:42.359
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:45.319
<v Speaker 1>That was for Africa and Africa only, but because it

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:48.400
<v Speaker 1>was doing so much in Africa, it started to affect

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:52.120
<v Speaker 1>some of the agendas and it started getting a little

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:53.879
<v Speaker 1>deep there.

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:55.719
<v Speaker 2>It is. Man, Well, look, I appreciate you pulling up

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 2>a kon Yo. By the way, I might have to

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 2>catch a flight to the Red Rocks show. That's crazy, Yo,

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:03.560
<v Speaker 2>you got to it's gonna be nuts, my guy, con

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you pulling up boom fire. Let's do Uh,

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna do some ship just for the radio show

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 2>that it's gonna run on the syndicated show. So we're

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:14.359
<v Speaker 2>gonna have obviously we're gonna introduce the record, but I'm

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:16.399
<v Speaker 2>gonna have you do. We do something on the show

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 2>called the Daily Hate, where people listeners calling and they

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 2>hate on something. They can hate on their boss, their baby, mama,

0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:25.759
<v Speaker 2>the traffic, fucking Trump, whatever. So I'm gonna ask you

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 2>something that you're hating.

0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 1>On got you. I don't even know if I'm hating

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:29.360
<v Speaker 1>on anything.

0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:31.360
<v Speaker 2>It could be. It could be like it could be

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:34.479
<v Speaker 2>when you get something delivered to you from Uber Eats

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:36.279
<v Speaker 2>and the food is cold and they don't they don't

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 2>give you utensils.

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm trying to think of what I hated.

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:40.799
<v Speaker 2>It could be. It could be it could be it

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 2>could be eddie, it could be fucking airline ship, it

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 2>could be travel ship, every day ship. They don't have

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 2>to be like hate per se, but it's just like

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 2>something that you could be like, Yeah, man, you know

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:53.359
<v Speaker 2>I would maybe if you had an experience at an

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 2>airport or maybe.

0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:55.759
<v Speaker 1>You had an experience. I know exactly what I'm hating on.

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 2>All Right, here we go, ro Yo. It's the boutleg

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Camp show. Shout out to Acon Man taking over the

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 2>show Man. He got a new record out. We're going

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:05.359
<v Speaker 2>to get into that in this secons called Beautiful Day

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 2>new album all the way. It is the celebrity edition

0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 2>of the Daily Hate Though, Acon, what are you hating on?

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Man? I ain't gonna lie to you. I was trying

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>to think of anything that I can hate, because I

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 1>don't hate much, but I had to say I am

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 1>hating on the fact that every time I go through

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the UK, the sun is never out bro Oh in

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the UK it's one of my favorite places, but it's

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:28.400
<v Speaker 1>always cloudiesh It's gloomy, gloomy, rainy, like I'm not gonna lie.

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:30.399
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen a video from someone in the UK

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:32.239
<v Speaker 2>where it looks sunny. It does always look great.

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.759
<v Speaker 1>Beautiful place though, Yeah, like I would live there if

0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>the sun just came out.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, you got a new album coming out first quarter

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<v Speaker 2>next year. I want you to get into this new single.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us about the song and let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. This is called Acon's Beautiful Day Man. This is

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<v Speaker 1>one of those songs that reminds you that no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what you're going through in life, there's somebody out there

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<v Speaker 1>that's going through worse. Man, So appreciate what you have

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<v Speaker 1>and don't worry too much about what you want, what

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into it. Brand new Acon on your radios,

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<v Speaker 2>The Bootleg cav Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's Go