1 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by the 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: one and only Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to you Hear 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: from our studios at lambeau Field, Wes. To talk about 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: Week three. It'll be Packers Browns in Cleveland, first road 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: game of the regular season in twenty twenty five for 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: the Packers. This is a Browns team that is zero 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: to two, but a tale of two teams in many ways, 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: because while Cleveland has one of the best defenses in 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: the NFL, it's an offense for Cleveland that is struggling 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: and is the biggest reason why the Browns have not 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: found the win. 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: Columny, It's a very strange offensive makeup when you look 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: at Cleveland right now because they have one of, if 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: not the oldest starting quarterback in the NFL this year, 16 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: and Joe flawo at forty years old, and a bunch 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: of rookies and young guys around him, obviously Jerry Judy, 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: David and Joku. They do have some veterans there, but 19 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: you know, you know, Quinn Shawn Judkins is back now 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: in their backfield. I mean Dylan Samson, I think is 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: not even twenty one years old yet. Their other running 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: back back there, Harold Fan in their third round pick 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: out of Bowling Green, is off to a tremendous start, 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: but it's still a young football player and they've had 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: a difficult time kind of getting things moving here early on. 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,279 Speaker 2: Now you know you're playing the Baltimore Ravens, you're gonna 27 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: go and take some lumps a team that's that veteran, 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: that organized, and that you know, perennially dominant. But all 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: that being said, when you look at the Browns being 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: off to their first to two starts since their winless 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: season in twenty seventeen, there are some parallels there in 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: terms of just some of the offensive issues they've had 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: in the early goings. 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: Well, and it was a gut punch of a loss 35 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: for them in Week one because they battled the Cincinnati Bengals, 36 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: obviously a division rival, in state rival, all that that 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: was their He's an opening matchup, and and this is 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: before Joe Burrow obviously got hurt. So the Bengals and 39 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: the Browns were in quite a tussle and Cleveland was 40 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: in position to win the game, and unfortunately their young 41 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: kicker missed a thirty six yard field goal and so 42 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: the Bengals escaped with the victory there. And then in 43 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: Week two, some special teams problems kind of reared their 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: ugly head again for them as Baltimore blocked a punt 45 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: which set up an easy score. And the way things 46 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: went for the Browns offensively and on special teams, Baltimore 47 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: just seemed to play on short fields all day long. 48 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: It was it was short touchdown drives and before you 49 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: knew it, you know, Lamar Jackson and company were pushing 50 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: the forty point barrier in that one and it turned 51 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: into a blowout. But when you look at you look 52 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: at this matchup, in particular against against Green Bay, the 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: Browns have allowed only ninety one rushing yards through two games. 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: The Packers have allowed only ninety seven. That is one 55 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: two in the NFL, and quite frankly, it's not close 56 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: because there's only one other team in the league right 57 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: now that has allowed fewer than one hundred and forty 58 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: rushing yards and that's New England. So the fact that 59 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: the Browns and the Packers are the only two teams 60 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: to have allowed less than one hundred rushing yards so far. 61 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: I think it sets up as for an interesting matchup 62 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: in the sense that you know, you wonder, can one 63 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: of these running backs, whether it be Josh Jacobs for 64 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: the Packers or the rookie quinch On Judkins for Cleveland, 65 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: can one of these running backs get kind of crack 66 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: the code, so to speak, and break through against these 67 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: tough rushing, rushing defense units. 68 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: Well Judkins too, I mean, he cracked a thirty one 69 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: yarder last week, and you know there's some off the 70 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: field issues for why it took him so long to 71 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: get on the field. Second round pick, obviously a very 72 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: credentialed guy, was considered one of the top backs in 73 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: this year's draft. So there's an explosivity to hit game 74 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: that I think the Browns were looking to get here. 75 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: I mean, they've been a veteran team for a number 76 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: of years. Obviously Nick Chubb was there, they go a 77 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: different direction this year. So for the Green Bay Packers' 78 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: perspective as it relates to stopping Judkins, Samson Ford, everybody 79 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: in that backfield, that is going to be where things start. 80 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: You want to be able to get this pass rush 81 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: pinning its ears back and getting after Joe Flacco. It's 82 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: just the way it is, especially if Flacco's allowed to 83 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: get into a rhythm, even at forty years old. They 84 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: always say with quarterbacks, the last thing to go is 85 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: your arm strength. The guy still has his punch, he 86 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: can still deliver the football. There's still plenty of life 87 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: left in that dog, and you can't allow him to 88 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: be able to get into a rhythm. The Packers have 89 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: seen it before in his numerous stops in matchups with 90 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: Green Bay in the past, but Judkins is a real 91 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: threat green Bay's perspective. Though, I put this an insider index, 92 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: I feel like the biggest win condition for this game 93 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: is Josh Jacobs and getting him going and getting him 94 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 2: going early, because it is a really interesting matchup in 95 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: terms of what the Browns are looking to achieve here. 96 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: They play single high, Jim Schwartz plays man covers. They 97 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: are a physical bunch. The Packers have to deliver that 98 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 2: initial punch there to be able to get where this 99 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: thing is going. Last year, Josh Jacobs was incredibly effective 100 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: out of the gate, ran for more rushing yards I 101 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: think than anybody else in the first half. Green Bays 102 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: trying to recreate that now in year two. 103 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this Brown's defense has a very interesting and 104 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: intriguing mix of players. Age wise, I guess you would 105 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: say everybody knows about Miles Garrett, former defensive player of 106 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: the Year, sort of a guy who's in that discussion 107 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: for defensive player of the year pretty much every season. 108 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: He's already got three and a half sacks through two games. 109 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: You have a veteran on the linebacker level in Devin Bush, 110 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: who's a former first round draft pick, and then in 111 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: the secondary you have veterans like Denzel Ward and Greg 112 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: Newsom the second. But then they've also mixed in their 113 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: top two draft picks from this past draft, Mason Graham 114 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: on the defensive line. He was the number five overall pick, 115 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,119 Speaker 1: and then Carson Sweessinger at linebacker, he was the number 116 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: thirty three overall pick. He was the high pick in 117 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: the second round. Those two guys are appear to be 118 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: off to a really good start. They've you know, they've 119 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: mixed them in well. And as you said with with 120 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz, With Jim Schwartz defenses, it's all about aggression. 121 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: It's all about attack. They are not going to react 122 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: to what you do. They are going to come after you, 123 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: and that includes the guys on the outside with pressman coverage. 124 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: As you said, they do like to play a lot 125 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: of man coverage. Miles Garrett is certainly not reacting to 126 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: anybody or anything. He is coming after you right at 127 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: the snap. And it seems that these young rookies, these 128 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: high draft picks that they've thrown into the mix, you know, 129 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: kind of fit that mold as well. 130 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and a couple things of this. One thing I 131 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 2: love about the way that Cleveland has built up their defense. Again, 132 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: there are some significant questions on offense, and I think 133 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: that's a team that throughout the course of the year 134 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: Flaco stays healthy, they will get better as the year 135 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: goes on. But defensively, you look at those top two picks, well, 136 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: what did they do. They drafted Graham and they put 137 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: them right next to Malie Collins, who they signed this offseason. 138 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: They have a swashinger there. But Devin Bush has been 139 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: one of my favorite type of off ball hybrid type 140 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: linebackers here in the National Football League for number of years. 141 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: This defense can go man and there was a lot 142 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: of people an insider inbox this week, a little bit 143 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: of you know, I don't want to get up too 144 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: much over confidence here. I would dare I say cocky 145 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: amongst the fan base of well, hey, we beat Detroit, 146 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: we beat Washington, we handed it to both those teams. 147 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: Is there a chance we could go four and all 148 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: going into the Bay. You cannot look past the Browns. 149 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: And as I wrote again earlier this week, the forty 150 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: one points they gave up against Baltimore is just a 151 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: small part of the entire big picture. You talked about it, 152 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: the short fields, some of the stuff that happened in 153 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: the later half of that game. This is a team 154 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: that can make you look silly. And the thing that's 155 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: scary about it, much like Green Bay, they haven't gotten 156 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: any takeaways yet. Green Bay has won, Cleveland has none. 157 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: But when it comes to just pure yardage, they've been 158 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: stopping everybody. 159 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why I brought up the fact right 160 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: at the top of the show that this Browns team 161 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: was a thirty six yard field goal away from beating 162 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: the Joe Burrow Bengals, a team that a lot of people, 163 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: prior to Burrow's injury thought had some Super Bowl aspirations. 164 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: There if this, if that kick goes through, regardless of 165 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: what happens in Week two against Baltimore. If that kick 166 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: goes through in Week one and we're talking about a 167 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: one on one Browns team with a win over the 168 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, I think the you know, the attitude of 169 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: the fans and sort of the perspective on this game 170 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: is completely different. So you have to keep that in mind. 171 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: This team was right there with a chance to beat 172 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: one of their biggest rivals in Week one. You mentioned 173 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: on the offensive side that what intrigues me the most 174 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: about this is that really, for the first time that 175 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: I can remember, and not that I follow the Browns 176 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: or even the AFC North all that much, but it 177 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: seems that Cleveland is trying to develop this So this 178 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: one two punch at tight end with Fannin and Joku. Now, 179 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: Joku's the veteran who's been there for a while. Fannon 180 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: is the rookie, as you mentioned, but it seems that 181 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, they they've spent the money on Jerry Judy 182 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: and he had a twelve hundred yard season last year, 183 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: his best season as a pro, better than any of 184 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: the years that he had had in Denver before he 185 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: went to Cleveland. But the whole two tight end thing 186 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: is is interesting because it seems that both Fannin and 187 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: Joku are off to a pretty good start, and certainly 188 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback like Flacco is going to find those 189 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: guys if they find some opening. 190 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: Well, and it gives them a base offense that I 191 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: think they can run with too. I mean, in many 192 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: ways this is a mirror matchup. They do not go 193 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: as deep as Green Bay does at receiver. I mean 194 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: it is Judy and then it's a lot of young guys. Yeah, 195 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: obviously they signed Isaiah Bond last month, but within Djoku 196 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: and Fan and Okay, so the thing to know about 197 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: Fan and he's not your traditional inline tight end right 198 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: and Djoku is like he's the prototype. There's a reason 199 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: he was picked where he was picked. And obviously he's 200 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: been in Cleveland for a number of years now, had 201 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: a lot of success. He is your inline guy. Fannin's 202 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: gonna do multiple things for them and has become kind 203 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: of a go to target for Flacco. The amount of 204 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: two tight end that they've run so far is almost startling, 205 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: but if you think about it, it's because that is 206 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: really been their best way of moving the football early 207 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: on and now you add Judkins into that equation, I imagine 208 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: the Packers are going to see a lot of that, 209 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: so getting hats on those two guys can be really important. 210 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: What's nice for green. 211 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: Bay defensively is they're as well positioned to match up 212 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: with this type of offense as they've been in years. 213 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: And when you factor in Javon Bullard in the slot 214 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: and then also the inside linebackers they have that can cover, 215 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: this is something where Green Bay should still be able 216 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: to put on the gas, especially with some injury concerns 217 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: up front for Cleveland. You can't take this match up 218 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: for granted, but I think it sets up really well 219 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: for Green Bay's defense considering what they did in the 220 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: first week of the season. 221 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: And one more thing to touch on before we get 222 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: to our keys to victory. The update on the Packers 223 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: offensive line health wise. So on Wednesday, both Aaron Banks, 224 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: the left guard and Zach tom the right tackle were 225 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: back in practice from their injuries. Both were limited. Both 226 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: also spoke to reporters after practice. Aaron Banks painted a 227 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: much more positive picture in terms of his availability for Sunday. 228 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: He feels that he will be ready to go and 229 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: he will be out there, Zach Tom not so sure. 230 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: A lot more uncertainty there. But again that was only 231 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: Wednesday's practice, you know, Sunday is several days away. We'll 232 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: see what the rest of the week brings. But the 233 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: good news is it doesn't seem that either of those 234 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: injuries to the Packers starters on the offensive line are seriousals. 235 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: They're already working their way back from those and and 236 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: should be back in the in the lineup sooner than later. 237 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: If the Packers are back to full strength and the 238 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: offensive line, you definitely like that in terms of this 239 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: matchup against Miles Garrett and that defensive front for Cleveland. 240 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,359 Speaker 1: So but we'll just have to see. We'll find out, probably, 241 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: you know, ninety minutes before kickoff, as we do a 242 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: lot of times, whether the Packers are going to have 243 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: all of their horses up front or not. 244 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Aaron Banks injury kind of felt more like 245 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: a Hey, the guy's banged up and he's on a 246 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: short week. 247 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: I mean, what's he going to be able to give you? 248 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: And is it better to have a completely healthy Jordan 249 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 2: Morgan in that spot when you feel confident about the 250 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: guy that could step in for him. The Zach Tomblin's 251 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: x been incredibly transparent about the state of his injury 252 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: and the quad receps, and he said, I mean, it's 253 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: not torn fully to the point where you would need 254 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: to go in there and have surgery, but when it 255 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: comes to straight line speed, it's a little bit more difficult. 256 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: In terms of just playing the right tackle position, absorbing contact, 257 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: moving in and out of his kickslide. It sounds like 258 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: he's okay, but it's when the get off trying to 259 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,239 Speaker 2: get downfield that could be a little bit more problematic. 260 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: Time will tell. We're two weeks away from the bye week. 261 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 2: Maybe that's something that can help him down the line too. 262 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 2: You know, however, these next two games shuffle out. But 263 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: one thing I did mention, and obviously I wrote earlier 264 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: this week on Anthony Belton, and I had some people 265 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: on Twitter coming after me for this because they were saying, well, 266 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: you know, Miles Garrett really only lines up against the 267 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: left tackle in early downs. 268 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: That's true. 269 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: If you watch the Baltimore game, they use him in 270 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: a not a stand up role like Sadarius Smith was 271 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: once to use, but very similarly to what Micah Parsons does. 272 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: He's gonna line up against your guards. He's gonna move 273 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: around everywhere. Jim Schwartz is going to try to be unpredictable. 274 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 2: So whoever is in there in that starting five at 275 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: any of those positions have to be on high alert 276 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: for him. 277 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. 278 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: Well, you don't think Jim Schwartz is gonna maybe make 279 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: an adjustment if the Packers have to start a rookie 280 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: and Anthony Belton r. 281 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: Now no, not if you ask our fans the Belton, but. 282 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you know he's gonna say, hey, let's take 283 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: the future Hall of Famer and let him go after 284 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: the rookie and then see how their offense has to 285 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: adjust in what limitations then that causes because you want 286 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: to you know, you want to help the young guy, 287 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: and it becomes a very different type of matchup in 288 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: that regard. So you can't put anything, I mean, you 289 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: can't assume anything with Jim Schwartz in this league. I mean, 290 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: he's he's been doing this, he's been doing this for 291 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: a long time and uh, and he's not gonna he's 292 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: not going to fall into into too many patterns and whatnot. 293 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: I'll just say this really quick too. 294 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: It is so much fun and it won't be fun 295 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: this week for Packer, but it is so much fun 296 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: to watch Miles Garrett play football. 297 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 298 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: You know, you go back to the Detroit game when 299 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: Micah Parsons beat Penny School and you're seeing good on good, 300 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: great on great. Yeah, that was the same thing in 301 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: that game between Cleveland and Baltimore. You don't see Ronnie 302 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: Staley look the way that he looked on a couple 303 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: of those rushes. 304 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, Miles gartt I Garrett. 305 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: There are levels to this game. 306 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: And when you see pass rushers like this, and on 307 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: a given year, we're not necessarily blessed to be able 308 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: to see a Miles Garrett come in and have to 309 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: Packers have to match wits with him. 310 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 3: But now that Michaeh. 311 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: Parsons is here and then you kind of see what 312 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: he accomplished, and now with Garrett coming in here, I mean, 313 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: it is a big chess match there for Green Bay 314 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: trying to shut him down. 315 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: Well, and it's such a tough deal for any offensive 316 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: lineman going against a player of Michael Parsons caliber or 317 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett's caliber, because say you mentioned last week against Baltimore, 318 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley, say he had forty five snaps against Miles Garrett. 319 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: He might have had two or three really bad ones 320 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: out of those forty five, but the nature of the 321 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: game is those two or three really bad ones can 322 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: change the entire game, and that's what makes it so 323 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: hard against players of that caliber. I want to get 324 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: to our keys to victory, but we do have to 325 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: pay some bills around here, so we will start with 326 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: a word from our sponsors. Serious XM NFL Radio delivers 327 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: hard hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL news 328 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: that true football fanatics need. Twenty four to seven, three 329 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: sixty five. At Cousin Subbs, we have something for everyone, 330 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: like our Wisconsin cheese curds, mac and Cheese, golden fries, 331 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: and creamy shakes, all paired with your favorite sub or 332 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: sub and a bowl. Cousin Subs fifty plus years of better. 333 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: Pit Boss Grills the official grill of Packers tailgating at 334 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: Lambeau or at your house. Take your game day to 335 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: the next level with a pit Boss wood pellet grill. 336 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: Pit Boss Grills available at minards. Hey Packers fans, we 337 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: always knew Lambeufield was a wonder but now it's official. 338 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: Learn more about all the Wonders of Wisconsin at travel 339 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: Wisconsin dot com slash Wonders. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. 340 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: We're previewing Packers and Browns. It will be from Cleveland, 341 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: a noon Central time kickoff on Sunday, Week three here 342 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Packers two and oh Browns zero to two. Wes, 343 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: You've already mentioned a couple of things already, but what's 344 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: at the top of your list in terms of the 345 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: keys to victory for green Bay in. 346 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: This game, Cleveland, I'm gonna make you a deal. You 347 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: face the Detroit Lions. You can have as many takeaways 348 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: as you want, as many interceptions, as many force fumbles. 349 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: Do what you gotta do. 350 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: The Packers have to make sure that for one more 351 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: week there's an eggnog there in terms of what they've 352 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: been able to do. 353 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: With taking away the football. 354 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: That's the only thing that's been missing for Cleveland so 355 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 2: far this season. They have it generated turnovers. For me, Yes, 356 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: there's the Josh Shacobs saying, I'm sure there's other stuff 357 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: you're going to go into, but keeping a clean pocket 358 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: right now for Jordan Love is paramount, and Jordan also 359 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: protecting the football is going to be key in this one. 360 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: They're gonna get single high looks, they're gonna have chances 361 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: for downfield opportunities, and hopefully the receivers can help make 362 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: that right. But within the pocket right now, when you 363 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 2: look at the passer rating for Jordan, I believe it's 364 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: one twenty right now when operating from a clean pocket 365 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: this season, which leads the National Football League. The Packers 366 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: have to be able to do that whoever is on 367 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: the offensive line, whoever is chipping, whoever is in the 368 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: backfield pass protection as well, and let's pick up making 369 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 2: sure that number ten can get that ball out cleanly 370 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: and then protecting it. I feel like it's probably one 371 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: of the biggest things that Green Bay Packers have to 372 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: accomplish in this thing to come out with a win. 373 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that. In terms of protecting 374 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: the football, that just feels like, and it's a big 375 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: thing every week, don't get me wrong, but in this 376 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: particular matchup, it just feels like it rises to the 377 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: top and then some because this Cleveland offense is struggling. 378 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: They're not moving the ball consistently, they're not scoring points 379 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: on a consistent basis. The way that could change for 380 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: Cleveland is if via turnovers they get short fields right 381 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: and they they don't have to go seventy or seventy 382 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: five yards or even sixty five yards, that they don't 383 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: have to go the distance in order to put points 384 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: on the board. So the way the Packers' defense is playing, 385 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: if green Bay is not turning the ball over and 386 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: the special teams doesn't allow a big return or something 387 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: like that, if Cleveland and doesn't have short fields and 388 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: they have to go the long way, I like the 389 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: Packers defense chances of keeping that point total down to 390 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: where the Packers offense doesn't have to have a banner 391 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: day against one of the best defenses in the league, 392 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: but a productive and functional day will get the job done. 393 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: So that's how I look at this. With regard to 394 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: Jacobs in the running game, it would be it would 395 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: be a tremendous boon to be able to get him 396 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: going and to sort of crack that code of Cleveland's 397 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: run defense, because you know how it works in this 398 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: league West if you're a defense that does really well 399 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: stopping the run, as soon as as soon as that 400 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: starts to falter a little bit, suddenly everything else on 401 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: defense gets a lot harder to manage and a lot 402 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: harder to put together because because then you're not doing 403 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: what you expect to do, which is to shut down 404 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: the run and then play your traditional defense against everything else. 405 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: So that's definitely something to watch. And I don't put 406 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: it past Josh Jacobs win this offensive line to to 407 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: figure something out. And sometimes sometimes all it can take 408 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: is that you know that one little seam, that one 409 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: little crack, and suddenly there's a big explosive run and 410 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: then you've got a really good defense on its heels. 411 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: And then that's where Matt Lafleur and and and the 412 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: play calling with Jordan Love and company could could get 413 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: really interesting. So that's that's at the at the top 414 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: of things for me. As far as the Packers defense 415 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: is concerned, if they continue to pressure quarterbacks the way 416 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: they have in the first two weeks, I think it's 417 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: it's potentially a rough day for Joe Flacco because he 418 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: doesn't have the ability to get away that Jaden Daniels does, 419 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: and we haven't seen now. I'm expecting Cleveland to want 420 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: to try to play the quick game with the passes 421 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: for Joe Flacco to get the ball out of his 422 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: hands quickly. Jared Goff is a guy who's perfected that 423 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: for Detroit. They they play the quick game a lot 424 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: and get the ball out of his hands. And even 425 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: they were having trouble functioning on a consistent and basis 426 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: with the pressure that the Packers were putting on. So 427 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: continue to pressure the quarterbacks the way you have, and 428 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: I think the Packers have a big advantage of this game. 429 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: I mean, the fact is, Mike, I mean, I talk 430 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: well about Judkins and some of these things they can do, 431 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: but the Browns have the twenty eighth ranked rushing offense 432 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: here through the first two weeks of the season. This 433 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: is not the week for the Packers run defense to lapse. Yeah, 434 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: you and I have seen the last few weeks, and 435 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: you've got a couple of years to watch Don Caper's 436 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: first few defenses, including the Super Bowl year. I did 437 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: not get that in terms of the coverage aspect of it. 438 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 2: But I have not seen the Packers be able to 439 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 2: get teams in third and medium to long the way 440 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: they have these first two weeks and been able to 441 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: capitalize on it the way they have. There is no okay, well, 442 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: you know you send four. You play coverage and you 443 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: hope to tackle them before the sticks. No, they are 444 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: going for sacks here, they are going for disruption, they 445 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: are going for explosive plays and on value, this matchup 446 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: present all of that. If you can earn the right 447 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: to pin you year back and get after Flacco. But 448 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: to your initial point too, I mean, one thing that 449 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: Detroit does really well in addition to the quick passing 450 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: game is they have playmakers who can make plays in space. 451 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 2: They can have guys like Aman Ross Saint Brown take 452 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 2: his short intermediate slant route. 453 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 3: And break it. 454 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: Sure that isn't quite there for Cleveland. So it will 455 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: obviously be big on the safeties to make sure you 456 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: keep a top on this defense. But it's also really 457 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: just rallying to the ball so when the ball does 458 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 2: get thrown, you know, having multiple tacklers there, and Green 459 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: Bay's done a really good job of that so far. 460 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be interested to see how quickly Flacco is 461 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: trying to get the ball out of his hands in 462 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: this game. And as you said, if they're hitting those 463 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: short throws, then are the Packers rallying to the ball, 464 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: making the tackles, not allowing the broken tackles to lead 465 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: to explosives and whatnot. So before we go, we'll take 466 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: a glance around Week three in the NFL. Elsewhere in 467 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: the NFC North, Cincinnati is a Minnesota. I don't think 468 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: Jake Browning versus Carson Wentz is what CBS had in 469 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: mind when they assigned Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, absolutely Wolfson 470 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: to go cover this game in Minneapolis. But it is 471 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: the battle of the backup quarterbacks there. Dallas is at Chicago, 472 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: the Bears obviously looking for that first win of the season. 473 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: The Bears defense has been on the wrong end of 474 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: the NFC Offensive Player of the Week two weeks in 475 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: a row, and now Dak Prescott and a Cowboys offense 476 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: that certainly put up a bunch of points against the 477 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: Giants last week is coming in. And then the other 478 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: one in the NFC North, which maybe is the game 479 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: of the week. In the NFL, we're talking Monday Night football. 480 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: Detroit is at Baltimore. That's that's as big and intriguing 481 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: a matchup as far as AFC versus NFC as as 482 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna get. 483 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Monday Night football wins the day. 484 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: Here. Typically, it seems like in recent years, it's always 485 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: been the Sunday night football game with a big matchup. 486 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 2: In this particular case, it goes to Monday night football. 487 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: And Yeah, for Detroit, this is a this is a 488 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 2: major challenge. I mean, they are going into Baltimore's home 489 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 2: field and seeing if they can knock off what has 490 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: been perennially one of the most consistent, you know, dominating 491 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: type football teams the last few years. And you know, 492 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: there's a lot of frustration, I'm sure about how that 493 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: game ended two weeks ago against Buffalo, but the fact 494 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 2: of the matter is, I mean they responded and did 495 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 2: what they were supposed to do against the Browns, and 496 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: there's such a veteran oriented team with a multiple time 497 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 2: MVP at quarterback. They you know, there is no concern 498 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: in my mind about Baltimore and I mean they're going 499 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: to be in this thing once again, and their defense 500 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 2: I think is going to look more like it did 501 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: against Cleveland than it did necessarily in the second half 502 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: against Buffalo. So huge, huge matchup for Detroit, which did 503 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: get back on the rails last week. Their run game 504 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 2: got back going. Jared Goff was almost perfect. 505 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, fiving completions in five touchdown passes for Jerry Golf 506 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: and that game against Chicago. The other thing I think 507 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: that's interesting with regard to this Lions Ravens matchup is 508 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: I believe it was two years ago in twenty twenty three, 509 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 1: which the year Detroit eventually made it all the way 510 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship Game and nearly got to the 511 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl in that game with San Francisco. But that 512 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: year Detroit went into Baltimore and got it handed to him. 513 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: The Ravens just blew them out. And that was somewhat 514 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: early in the season, I want to say, where the 515 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: Lions were looking pretty good and then all of a 516 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: sudden they took it on the chin and everybody was like, oh, 517 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: what's going on with Detroit. So Dan Campbell and company 518 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: are going to remember that game because that was one 519 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: that they did not feel good about. And now they're 520 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: going back into Baltimore with another shot. One last thought 521 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: I want to get from you a pair of two 522 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: to zero NFC teams going ahead to head on Sunday, 523 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: the Rams at Philadelphia, which is a playoff rematch. Those 524 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: two teams met in Philadelphia in the snow in January 525 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: last year and the Rams took the Eagles all the 526 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: way to the wire in that game. Your thoughts on 527 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: who comes out of this one at three and oh 528 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: in the NFC and. 529 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: They're all three of the four teams are in the 530 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: NFC West. I mean, this is this is critical. Certainly 531 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: San Francisco, as I talked about on Tuesday's show, Mac 532 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 2: Jones stepping in played really well, Christian McCaffrey getting the 533 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: you know his stuff going again. They have the team 534 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: to be able to support a quarterback coming in. But 535 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 2: now you're taking on an Arizona team under Kyler Murray 536 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: that has flirted at times with being a front runner 537 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 2: in that division and just not being able to consistently 538 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: keep it together. 539 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: And it sounds like party could be back for San 540 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: Francs really too. Yeah, the word is the word is that. 541 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a maybe, but the word is 542 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: that that party might actually be back in action for 543 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: San Francisco in this one, just missing maybe the one game, 544 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: but we'll see. 545 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 3: That's crazy. That's wow. Not not the same turf toe 546 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: as Joe Burrow. 547 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: No, definitely not the same the Rams. 548 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: That the point I want to bring back to the 549 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: ramso is they have to face one of the absolute 550 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: juggernauts of this NFL to hold serve here and to 551 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: keep themselves up at the top of this thing, because 552 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: one way or another, in most likely scenarios, you're gonna 553 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: be having another three and zero team within your division 554 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: after three weeks. I looked at it, though, Mike just 555 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: want to say this. I think there are three must 556 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 2: win games on the slate, and I'm saying must win 557 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 2: and I never say must win in September, but I 558 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 2: think there are three must win games. I think Miami 559 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: has to find a way to beat the Buffalo Bills. 560 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: They can't start owing three. And I don't know, Mike 561 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: McDaniel where this thing could spiral to. If you get 562 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 2: completely ran out of high Mark, it. 563 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 3: Could get bad quick. The Chicago Bears have to beat 564 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys. It has to happen. 565 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 2: They have to, like Ben Johnson this era, if this 566 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 2: thing starts owing three after how things ended last year, 567 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: they made that regular season finale against Green Bay, it's 568 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 2: super Bowl, yeah, but reality was is the Bears were 569 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: not trending in the right direction at the end of 570 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 2: last season. That is a pivotal matchup and this is 571 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: probably the most easily on paper, would be the most 572 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 2: easily winnable game. Kansas City has to go into MetLife 573 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: and they have to take care of business against the Giants. 574 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 2: You can't take anything for granted right now with way 575 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: things are going for Kansas City competitive games. You know, 576 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: they lost to really good teams. But this is what 577 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: was the first time was since twenty eighteen that Mahomes 578 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 2: has lost back to back games or something something like that. Yeah, 579 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: just saying yeah, just saying. 580 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you. Well with that, we'll call it 581 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: a rap on this edition of Packers Unscript. You'd be 582 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: sure to follow all of our coverage of the team 583 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: and all of our coverage from Sunday's game in Cleveland. 584 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: Wes and I will both be there and we will 585 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: have it all for you on Packers dot com for 586 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: west Iimmike. Thank you for tuning in everybody. We will 587 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: see you next time.