WEBVTT - In Memoriam 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:03.760 From I Heart Radio and Doghouse Pictures. This is fight Night. 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:14.960 I'm Jeff keating where I'm gonna lay down? My birdens 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:19.479 where down. When I first met Chicken Man back in 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:23.480 two thousand and three, he was actually Reverend Gordon Williams. 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:27.240 He greeted me at his church and we had our 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:31.600 first interview together. After a few years, we'd become close friends. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.960 We broke bread together, we watched movies together. We talked 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.639 about our family together, and he ended up counseling my 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.479 life as well. I also got to know his family, 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:48.960 his wife Dolores, his son Gordon Williams Jr. And his 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:54.360 two daughters, Camilla and Barjona. Here I am with Dolores 0:00:54.960 --> 0:01:04.240 as we talked about the first time she met Gordon Williams. Uh. 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.280 I was working in the salon doing Better Do first 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:12.120 year right. So Golden came in and told the receptionist 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.440 that he had an appointment with me, and so I 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.760 heard him and I turned around and looked, I said, 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.440 you know, like and he it was like he just 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.000 felt me when I said that, because I'm looking kind 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:24.920 of strange. At the time, I was trying not to 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:27.720 do me in hair, you know, I was busy, and 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.240 but and then he turned he said, yes, my appointment 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:34.200 is with Delores. He came, he said, and I began 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.800 to notice him, which was really strange for me because 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.640 I was busy, and guys come in all the time 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:41.520 and try to be at you and all that, but 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.840 I wouldn't really, you know, for all at it that 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.920 particular time. But there were things that I began to 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.440 notice about it. The way he was dressed. I mean, 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:53.960 he he was just immaculate, and he was the colors 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:57.160 were right, and it wasn't too much, it was just enough. 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.800 He was just he was just on it. So he 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.680 over what he wanted and I cut his hair, and 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.320 it just so happened that now I got two assistants, 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.480 but both of them were busy at the time when 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.519 it was start for him to get his hair shampoo. 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.320 So who has left to shampoo his hair? But man, 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.680 so I took it, you know, to shampoo bowl and 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:22.119 then I really could check it out. But she and uh, 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.800 and so when I finished with him, and he you know, 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.520 came back to the chair and he says, I really 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:32.119 enjoyed my shampoo and everything. He says, I would love 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.520 to make another appointment with the afterway you can and 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.040 you get really go out to do shop, take the 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:40.400 appointment for you know, right back that so, uh that's 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.920 how we met. You know, he started asking me to 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.120 go after Benner and all that, but I resisted it 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.200 for a long time, but because the fact that I 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.240 knew he was with somebody, you know, and uh so 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.720 I didn't want to get into all of that. But 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.919 he wouldn't. He wouldn't give up. Yeah, he wouldn't give 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.440 up on it. So tell me about the early years 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.400 of Dolores and partying and your heyday. What was that like? 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:07.399 It was? It was amazing, Like I said, immediately when 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.600 I opened the salon, it was so popular and so 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:14.200 anybody was to come to town, all of the new 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:18.120 people they would want to come there. And uh so 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.240 it was we worked hard and we're parded hard. So 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.600 at what point, you know, when you guys are dating, 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:28.400 like who starts to lean into you know, Jesus and 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.800 the Lord first is it? You? Are you doing it? Okay? Okay, 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.840 So tell me about kind of what led you down 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.280 that path and then how you kind of pulled Gordon 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:40.720 in with you. Okay, Well, you know, after after a 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.560 while I knew that he cared for me, I really did. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.320 I knew he cared for me, but he had so 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.320 much going on in his life, so he was going 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.760 back and forth, you know, when his business and all that. 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.360 But it got to the point where he would when 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.040 he was in town, he was going to make sure 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.720 he came back to Salon. And he finally convinced me 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.240 to go out with him, and I did in it. 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.560 And he was such a gentleman. I mean, he would 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.120 make you love it, you know, he would really do that. 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:09.480 He was free high at he was a gentleman, and 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.680 he would take it to the best of places, and 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:17.039 and to see a man with his capabilities and his 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:20.599 personality and everything, he could easily fall in love with him. 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.600 And so that's what happened. And then then after we 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:26.440 were together for a while, he came my hand and 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.520 brought me to this house. And I've been in here since, 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.479 you know, like the kids were saying, well, they came later, 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.400 but we had gone through quite a few things and 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.080 breaking up, and and with me getting saved and everything, 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.640 you know, I got saved changed my life. So now 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:44.440 at some point you're married and you've got two young girls. Okay, 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.279 got you, And so tell me a little bit about finally, 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.400 you know, because again this is a long process where 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.080 Gordon realizes, Hey, if I'm gonna be with this lady 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:53.600 and these two young girls, I got to give up 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.120 this life. So tell me tell me how that happens. 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.080 And like, were you around for the thing where he 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.600 owed like hundreds of thousands of dollars? Yeah, that was 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.120 a scary time. Okay, so tell me tell me that's 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.200 important because this is a story that he tells. And 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.120 so tell me about what was going on and how 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.240 you were feeling and how he was handling all that, 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.120 because that was I mean, that's that's close to death situation. 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.240 Well at this particular time, um, you know, it was 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.520 still the thing of him, you know, going back and forth. 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:21.760 He was working, you know, kind of what he was 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:26.480 doing and uh, but it was just getting you know, 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.040 the people that he was dealing with and could just 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.600 tell that things were and then I was able to 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.359 see these things, you know, so I would be finding 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.440 the one in advance, even though I wasn't with him 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.359 all the time, but I said, you know this and 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.520 that and that. So anyway, anyway, they tricked in and 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:45.880 uh ended up putting them in a bad situation. So 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:50.359 he was focusing a lot on getting that together, which 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.960 was the rightest thing to do, you know. And uh, 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.000 but at the meantime he ended up he had a 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.640 bullet that had been in his leg for a long time. 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.880 And why this thing? What was that? From the war? 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.479 From the streets? No, well, no, from the streets. He 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:12.200 got shot. So how did that happen? I think a 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.479 friend of here is something they were either together and 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:20.120 they got somebody got mad, and but at the time, 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.240 they were, you know, doing what they do. And so 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.800 he gets shot. He's got a bullet in his leg. Yeah, 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:27.800 I got a bullet in his leg. And he went 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.080 to the hospital for it, but he wouldn't even stay 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.720 that long enough for them to get it out, you know, 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.719 he just felt just left with it. Now this was 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.640 before I met him, Now, yes, I understand. And uh. 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:40.599 And so he left with the bullet in his leg, 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.720 and I guess he felt that he was all right, 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.599 So he never saw about it. But at this particular 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.760 time when he's down there, he's done a lot of 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:49.960 stress because they're trying to settle this thing, trying to 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:53.200 find this these people that stole all the stuff and 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:59.080 they ended up the bullet popped out of his leg. Yeah, 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.440 he was bleeding. So he ended up in the hospital. 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:03.800 Oh my goodness. And when he went to the hospital 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.520 where they will be kept him there and they cleaned 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.279 him up and all that kind of stuff, and he stays. 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.160 So that's when he said for me to come down there, 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:14.040 because can you know? And so I went. And when 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:17.120 you sit down there, do you mean to Miami? Yeah, okay, 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.280 got you go ahead. But he came out and you know, 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.640 and it was just such a a terrible pan. You know, 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:25.880 most of the time when you're in the life of crime, tolors, 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.920 it's very hard to get out. It is. When Gordon 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.760 is dealing with a high level situation, a lot of 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.000 money that he owes for drugs, that's just what it was. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:38.080 He's got something that stole it from him. And more importantly, 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.920 they're giving him this ultimatum and he talks about this, 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.160 bring me this guy's head in a paper bag, and 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:47.640 everything's okay. And Gordon isn't a murderer, so he's like saying, listen, exactly, 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.720 I got it. So now he's got to clear to 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.600 this debt, So he's got to sell more drugs to 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.600 clear this debt. But normally after you do that, it's 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.680 so hard to get out. So finally he pays his debt, 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:59.800 but how does he get out of this life? I'm 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.160 glad that you brought it to the memory. When we 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:06.520 came home. Then he began to all the contacts or 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.120 whatever he had to to get rid of stuff. This 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.080 is what he began to do. So when when he 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.600 got the money all that he needed to pay, then 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.800 I remember I drove that rode down with him, when 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:23.640 rode down to Miami and he went, he met with 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:27.560 them and he paid them and uh and they would saying, 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.880 oh good. Then yeah, this is that, you know, like 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:31.960 they were so happy to know what else we could 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.560 we can do. He turned around and put his hand 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:39.559 on his button, said you can kiss. In other words, 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.319 he was through. He was through with it, and he 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.400 did not look back. So what you're telling me is 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.920 after he pays that off and he's like kiss my, 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.520 you know what, he literally is been able to cut 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:57.080 it all off. He did. Here I am with Gordon 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:01.280 Williams Jr. As he talks about how his father's lifestyle 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:06.839 affected him as he grew older. At the time, I'm 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:10.920 taking his place. So I'm selling kilos like crazy sins 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.800 of the father. Yeah, I'm following up my dad's footsteps. 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:18.080 Then I get busted in Henry County and it's one 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.720 of the largest drug busts in Henry County on record. 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.240 It was a guy who was driving for me, but 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.520 he got caught with twenty nine kilos and he told 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.720 him it was mine. So they picked me up and 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.440 charged me with conspiracy. So that was kind of like 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.720 the catalyst for my dad because it really hurt him 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.000 because now the fans got me. When the Fetz get you, 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.480 the Fez got you. I started off in Georgia Penitentiary. 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.720 How long did you have to serve? Ten years, six 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:44.760 months and twenty one days. That's a real deal right there. Yeah. Yeah, 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.320 So that that really hurt my dad, you know, because 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:53.079 I'm his I'm his firstborn, and for me to follow 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:57.800 in his footsteps and to fall like that changed his 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.400 whole world. And he came to court in my defense. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:05.000 I was sending on my birthday, September the ninth. Prior 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.480 to that, he had stopped using. But tell me get 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.960 to the court. He's clean. He's clean, he's clean. The 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.680 judges sentenced me. Just happened to go to school with 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.760 my mom, so he knows about you. So he knows 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.240 about Yeah, he knows about me, and he knows about 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.840 my dad. So they asked, do anybody want to say 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.440 anything before they passed sentison, And my dad gets up 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:31.000 and says, your I like to speak on my son's 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:34.320 behalf and tell you that he's not bad and he 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.360 needs a second chance, and if you allow him the 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:41.680 second chance, you do right by you. And he said, 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:43.439 I throw myself on the merger of the court that 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.640 please don't sentence him, because they were asking for a 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.400 lot of time for me. They was asking for there 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:53.520 was asked to life. He told my dad, Mr Willien, 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.240 gona take everything in consideration, and I'm gonna send us 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.520 your son underneath the guidelines because the guidelines are called 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.240 for out of life. I'm gonna give him fifteen years. 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:04.520 And he gave me fifteen and I serve teen on it. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:09.400 I was in Atlanta waiting to move and they had 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:14.040 a press service down it for the inmates, and they said, 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.120 anybody want to go to press service? I said, yeah, 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.280 you know, I go over there, and when I went 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:20.920 down to press service, I guess it was there. Your father, 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:26.280 my dad. He was running the outreach prison ministries for inmates. 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:28.800 And when he saw me, because I didn't know he 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.240 was coming, and I didn't know he was you know, 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.600 I didn't know he was gonna be there, and when 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.120 I went in, he's you know, he just he started crying. 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.720 You know, you're like God, let him man. Then he 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:42.240 started getting closer and closer to to the Lord and 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:46.679 he started, you know, started really confessing his sins and 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.320 started his life started changing. And then that's when he 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:55.120 opened up the Church International Ministries two thousand. Did he 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:59.040 did he ultimately get ordained? Yeah? Yeah, he's an ordained minister. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.800 He was a ordained minister. When he died. He went 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.240 to theologically he went to more House over there, and 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.600 I was like, wow, what a turnaround from a drug 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:09.959 dealer to a reverend. And he said, yeah, you know, 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.680 I opened up my own church and minister. I said, really, okay, cool. 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:17.319 When I got out, I got out August the thirty, 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.400 two thousand and six, So when I got out, I 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.160 went to the church. So he wanted me to minister 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:27.319 to the younger guys in the congregation because they didn't 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:31.720 understand what it was like, you know, to to be 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:36.040 out here and selling drugs and doing wrong. He said, 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.120 you can give them a message that dad listen to 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:45.040 because you experienced it. Because my dad never defereral time. 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.720 He never went to prison for as long as I did. 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.160 So he said that I had something to offer. So 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.320 and I started, you know, I started, uh ministering to 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.560 the to the young, to the younger groups there. And 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:02.079 it was strange seeing my dad transfer for him like that. 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:06.160 That was a really strange transformation I witnessed because part 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.559 of me leaving he was, you know, I mean chicken man, 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.920 you know, and when you came out, he was what 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.520 Reben Williams. He was Reverend Williams when I came on. 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:18.640 He had let that that old name die. I mean, 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:20.720 but you can't get rid of it. I said, you're 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.760 gonna be Chicken Man for life. I don't care. I mean, 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.480 that's what people don't know you. And people people was 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:30.679 questioning whether his faith was real or not because they 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.440 just didn't want to believe it because they knew him 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:37.480 prior to meet this man afterwards, and he's talking about 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:44.360 worshiping God and praying and healing, and it just it 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.839 didn't set well. What a lot of people. When did 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.160 you know that the transformation was real? Well, him and 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.800 Dolores stopped using drugs when they gave their life to Christ. 0:13:54.040 --> 0:14:07.920 I knew it was real. My name was real. I 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.880 also stayed in touch with j. D. Hudson over the years, 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.040 and I was shocked to learn about an incredible event 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:17.280 that happened to him, but not surprised by the outcome. 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.600 I connected with his daughter, Renee, as she told me 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.960 about who j D was as a father and what 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:30.920 it was like being the daughter of a policeman the 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.280 time that I was in high school. My father at 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:37.400 that time was a school detective and what does that mean? 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:41.160 And where was that? Back then, all the schools had 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.880 cops assigned to the school, so if they had problem 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:49.000 kids or whatever, if there was some kind of Rucka's 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.560 going on or whatever, they were assigned to certain high schools. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.640 And my father was assigned to high school that I 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.760 went to. Do you think, okay, Renee, you think he 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.240 did that? Imagine? Yeah, do you think he did that 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:04.680 for a reason? I don't know. I think I know 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.040 your dad oh god, it was just you know, and everybody. 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.840 So I didn't have a whole lot of friends. Of course, 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:14.840 not you got this cop. That is so now maybe 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.280 some girlfriends that didn't want to you know that were Yeah, 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.360 it was straight lacewere. But no guys are going to 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.640 be like that's true. That's true. Oh my goodness, that's 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.080 that is a that is a j D move. If 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:29.960 I've ever my God, tell me a little bit about 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.080 your father. What kind of dad was he? What do 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.360 you remember about him growing up? What were some things 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.480 that you remember of being the daughter of J. D. Hudson. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.600 I love my father. I thought he was He was 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.840 a good dad. He was a hard worker. He'd worked 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:48.840 a lot, you know, excellent provider. Oh. He loved holidays. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:54.560 He loved Christmas. His favorite color was blue. So I 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:59.720 love Christmas too, But everything was blue. We had blue lights, 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.720 had a red blue wreathe, We had blue bulbs, We 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:08.040 had blue tints along the Christmas tree. And so I said, 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:13.360 when I grew up, I'm never having anything blue because 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:19.040 he loved blue. But he loved the holidays. He loved Christmas. Uh, 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:22.320 he loved wrapping gifts. He and my uncle they would 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:26.120 play on my brother's toys before my brother and I 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:30.080 would wake up for Christmas. He would always take us 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:34.080 on vacation Bangazne. Things were segregated. He loved to go 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.680 to Jackal Island and there was a black side of 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.560 Jackal Island and a white side of Jackal Island. We 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:41.840 you know, drive to Florida. There were a lot of 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:46.720 places we couldn't stop. I remember once we stopped somewhere 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:52.360 and we got gas, and the guy came out and 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:56.320 called my father the N word, and so my daddy 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.640 told him, you siphon all this gas out of my car. 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:04.119 That's when I kind of realized the world was not 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:08.000 the same everywhere, you know, because I had been so 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:11.160 insulated because in the area that I lived and it 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:15.080 was all black. He just always taught me to be 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.639 kind to everyone, you know, not to hate. He wanted 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.080 me to do well in school. I think he was 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.520 a pretty nice dad. The only thing about being my 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:29.600 father's daughter was that it prevented me from having a 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.200 lot of friends. A lot of people wouldn't come over 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:35.200 because my dad, you know, he started out being a cop, 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.080 you know, and then when he was over the beer 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:40.560 of corrections, oh my god, you know, and so people 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:44.320 shied away from me. It was different from my brother. Now, 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.840 my brother that was a different story. But for me, 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:50.399 oh my goodness, you know, I would said I love daddy, 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:54.520 but godly, I wish he wasn't a cop. Walk me 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:57.440 through where you were or when you heard about when 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.480 the guys tried to take the Cadillac from your dad's garage. 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:06.119 I was in Conyers and I drove over here and 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.840 by the time I got here to the house, they 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:13.600 had taken my father to the hospital. So then I 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:17.680 drive to Grady and I'm frantic, and I asked them, 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:21.960 I'm trying to find the gentleman that got shot and 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:25.720 it was just brought in by the ambulance. And they said, 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.880 there are two people that just got shot. I said, 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.240 what are you talking about? She said, there are two 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:37.840 people on whatever floor or an emergency their side by side. 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.080 You want the young man or the older man. And 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:42.639 so I said, what do you mean there are two people? 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:44.879 So I said, you need to tell the cops. If 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.320 there are two people that got shot, more than likely 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:51.040 that person that's sitting next this land it to my dad. 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:53.800 It's a person that shot him. They said, oh, ma'am. 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.640 So I ran to my father and I said, oh 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.720 my god. And do you know the man that shot 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.600 my daddy was right next door. And when he heard 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.520 me tell him the nurses you need to find that 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:07.720 guy because she shot my dad, he ran out of 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:11.200 the hospital. Well they caught the guy, you know that, right, Yeah? Okay? 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.639 And then there was two daddy, uh, and they and 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.800 they had a trial, but Daddy didn't tell me anything. 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.440 They didn't go because I wanted to go, but that 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:22.600 I don't know. I don't know. And so by the 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.720 time I found that they had already had a trial. 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:26.720 And did you know that there was two people that 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:29.720 were shot. One was killed. Yeah. See, this is the 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.520 mistake that Daddy made. Daddy was in his Cadillac. My 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.400 brother believed it was an intentional hit on my dad, 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:40.120 and so Daddy drove into the driveway and he made 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:43.840 the cardinal mistake of not letting the garage door down. 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.280 So he was sitting in the car with the radio on, 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:52.480 smoking a cigar, and these two guys with masks, which 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:56.360 is strange, came up, one to the left and one 0:19:56.400 --> 0:20:00.119 to the right. Both cars were in the garage. And 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.359 you've been over here before, so you know, it's not 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.639 that much space between the wall and the and the 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:09.480 car parked and the other side, because Mama's car was 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:13.720 on the Ryan side. And they pointed the gun at 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.040 my dad. Old man get out of the car, and 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.480 Daddy just happened to have his service revolver and you 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.120 know how to have this whole pocket on the door, 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.080 on the left side of the door in the drippings back. 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:26.679 So that's when he pulled that gun up and he 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.600 shot him, and then he got the car and shot 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:34.000 the other one. And so then Daddy and Mama had 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:38.560 just come from abroad. Somebody had just dropped her off. 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:40.840 She just walked in the door and she was taking 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:44.080 her clothes off, and she she hurried the gunshot. She 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.320 came to the door with an underwear on. He told 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.399 her get back in the house, and she closed the 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:51.120 door and called the police, called the nine one one. 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:56.679 So the guy runs out, he shoots one guy and 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.639 then one guy falls down. I think he died. He 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:02.920 at him and he failed right before he got to 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:06.000 Cascade Road, so you can got as far as he 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:09.560 could the beach triss and fell over on the ground. 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:11.760 So I think that's the one that died. How was 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:16.320 your dad's recovery? The gunshots, they didn't hit any Organs, 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.199 but I believe they pausing them to his system, and 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:22.359 I think that was the reason that daddy died. He 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.840 was a tough man, your dad. Yeah, I think I 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:27.879 think he got shot. I think he had four gun shots, 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.720 three or four hun Remember he was definitely shot a 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:32.959 few times. I remember that. I still have the article. 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:43.439 Any closing words you want to say about J. D. Hudson, 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:48.159 I love him dearly. I think it was an excellent 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:53.639 role model. Um. It was wonderful being his daughter. Uh. 0:21:53.640 --> 0:22:01.199 He was very and affectionate, kind man. Um. And every 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:04.879 Christmas I think about him because he really really loved Christmas. 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:08.159 I didn't have a lot of boyfriends, a lot of 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:13.440 christ but my daddy always gave me something for Valentine's Days. 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:17.560 You aways made sure I had a heart shaped think 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:21.359 of candy. You know, when there just a little things 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.560 like that. You know. He was just such a It 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:28.760