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Speaker 1: You don't listen. Ain't no Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: You know, does father really know best? Well, we'll get

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Speaker 2: to that in just a minute. Good morning, everybody. It's

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Speaker 2: that time. I know you couldn't wait. It is that time.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Sunday. We're broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. I'm Andy Furman here. He is

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Speaker 2: my partner, my friend, the man of all seasons, the

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Speaker 2: one and only Bucky Brooks. Bucky, how are you, Andy?

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Speaker 2: You sound great? You look even better? And away we go.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what I want to just mention one

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Speaker 2: thing if I can, and you talk about teams that

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Speaker 2: maybe snake bit in the world of sports, none better

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Speaker 2: than the LA Clippers. Okay, I just want to touch

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Speaker 2: on the Clippers for a second, because I know they

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Speaker 2: got their heads handed to him last night. But at

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Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets and Denver's moving on. I can't believe the

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Speaker 2: NBA is notn' eve gonna give him a day off.

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Speaker 2: They gotta play Oklahoma City tomorrow night. However, it was

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Speaker 2: four years ago. I believe it was four years ago.

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Speaker 2: These two teams also played the seventh game, and the

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Speaker 2: Clippers were heavily favored. They were up three to one

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Speaker 2: in this series, and you know what, they chose done

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Speaker 2: that one too. This team can't get it together for

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Speaker 2: some reason. There's snake bit one twenty one on one,

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Speaker 2: and you know what. One of my favorite players in

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Speaker 2: the NBA had a game and a half last night,

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Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook. Sixteen points, ten in the second quarter, a

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Speaker 2: couple of big three pointers, and he shot what three

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Speaker 2: point shooting average like forty two percent, the best of

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Speaker 2: any playoff series in his career. This guy was like

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Speaker 2: thrown out a very team, many teams saying he was finished,

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Speaker 2: he can't play. He's had a good teammate. I love

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Speaker 2: this guy because he hustles one hundred ten percent every

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Speaker 2: freaking game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, I mean there were a lot of people

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Speaker 3: that have really dismissed a former MVP, a trip of

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Speaker 3: double King, a guy who's a certain Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of people tried this, I'm blamed to

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Speaker 3: him when their teams didn't live up to expectation. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Being a Russell Westbrook fan, I would say it was

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Speaker 3: good to see him kind of pay some of those

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Speaker 3: guys back. He look, he plays the game the right way,

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Speaker 3: he plays hard, He assos, he gets Zephyr, he's a

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Speaker 3: good teammate, professional, all those things. So it's great to

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Speaker 3: see him play well in Game seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've had six guys in double figures yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So really, I mean, you know, here's a team that

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Speaker 2: basically was down and out. You know, the Clippers had

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Speaker 2: won eighteen of the last twenty one games. And the Clippers,

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Speaker 2: when they fired their general manager and their coach, I

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Speaker 2: had three games left in the regular season. And they

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Speaker 2: come back now. They're gonna give Oklahoma City everything they can.

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Speaker 2: They really will, and I'd like to see him knock

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City out of there. You know, I don't think

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Speaker 2: the NBA is too happy right now with Oklahoma City

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Speaker 2: and Cleveland. The two possibilities in the finals not great

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Speaker 3: Really, I don't think the league cares about that, man,

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Speaker 3: I think the league will see the best two teams. No.

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Speaker 3: I think Oklahoma City and Cleveland are terrific. They're teams

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Speaker 3: that are buttoning up from top to bottom, have superstar power,

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Speaker 3: they have depth, they have talent. I don't think the

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Speaker 3: league cares about them going. But the task is gonna

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Speaker 3: be tough for Denver coming off of us an emotional

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Speaker 3: seventh games then have to jump right into an OKAC series.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be hard for them to kind of make

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Speaker 3: the adjustment to get back on track to play the Thumber. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think it was right that they played

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, you decided did you want to play

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Speaker 3: seven games? If you play seven games, your punished. The

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Speaker 3: other team took care of business. That's part of the deal.

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Speaker 3: You take care of your business early. You get rewarded

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Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying. Okay, I mentioned coming in here.

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Speaker 2: Does father really know?

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Speaker 3: Best?

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Speaker 2: Dads are in the news right now, and you know what,

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Speaker 2: it's not even Father's Day. Really, you're a dad, Bucket Brooks,

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Speaker 2: you're a proud dad. How involved are you with your

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Speaker 2: want to know your relationship watching your kids play sports.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you who mine was. You know when my

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Speaker 2: I don't think you were that kind of a dad.

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Speaker 3: No, I've always hung in the back. I tried to

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Speaker 3: I've always kind of hung in the back, told them

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Speaker 3: is not to make it about me, like I've had

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Speaker 2: You know. I had a son who played what three

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Speaker 2: And at the time when he was doing this, I

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Speaker 2: And he was a hell of a performer, he really was.

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Speaker 2: I was proud of him, but I tried to stay

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Speaker 2: his son's quarterback. And this guy basically was on the

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Speaker 2: intimidated by him. There's no doubt in my mind. But

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Speaker 2: you know, it's just crazy how these parents relive their

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Speaker 2: we talk about dads right now. I'm talking about the

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Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons defensive quality. Jeff Olbriok. He apologized the other

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Speaker 2: day for the leak of shoulder stand in his private

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Speaker 2: the quarterback during the NFL Draft. It's unbelievable, it really is.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear what Jeff Oldbrich had to say

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Speaker 2: with the apology, then we'll get into it heavily. Go ahead, Jeff,

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Speaker 4: First of all, I like to publicly apologize to Shader

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Speaker 4: I want to publicly apologize to mister Blank, Terry Fatina,

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Speaker 4: actions of not protecting confidential data were inexcusable. My son's

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Speaker 4: actions were absolutely inexcusable, and for that we are both

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Speaker 4: respect the punishment. We take full responsibility, my son and myself,

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Speaker 4: and we will not be appealing to fine in any way.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievab Okay, you talk about to find the Falcons themselves,

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Speaker 2: will find two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Olbriok was

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Speaker 2: fined one hundred thousand dollars. A couple of things that

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Speaker 2: really irked me with this whole situation. Number one, how

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Speaker 2: Why is he getting it as a defensive coordinator. I

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Speaker 2: mean it wouldn't just a general manager, maybe the head

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Speaker 2: the inside guy. Why does he have the phone number?

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Speaker 3: Well, they said that this is an unusual thing, but

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Speaker 3: what happened Shuder, Saners and those guys got updated numbers late.

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Speaker 3: On a league wide memo, the league basically put everybody

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Speaker 3: they have a distribution list with all the prominent people

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Speaker 3: an update Onsherdeur's new number. Albrick had it on his iPad,

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Speaker 3: dollars five for the Falcons for the breach of security,

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Speaker 3: and the overall embarrassment of the ordeal. Sanders was not

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Speaker 3: the only one they received a prank call. Others received calls,

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's number one, number two. Initially, when this incident happened,

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Speaker 2: they kept on saying Ulbrick's kid. Why are they calling

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Speaker 2: him a kid. He's a man. He's twenty one years

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Speaker 2: of age. He should have known better. You know, when

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Speaker 2: I heard the term kid, I thought maybe he was

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Speaker 2: Twenty one years of age should know better, anyone should

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Speaker 2: know better. But he's not a kid. He's a man. Agreed,

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. He should be healed. Accountable as that

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Speaker 3: when we when we kind of paint him as a kid,

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Speaker 3: it's like, oh, it's an innocent mistake. He's twenty one,

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Speaker 2: Okay. The next thing is, I don't know why Old

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Speaker 2: I don't know why the kid did not go personally

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Speaker 2: That to me, Joe b nuts and if I'm the dad,

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Speaker 2: if I'm Olbrooke, I take the kid with me when

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Speaker 2: I'm apologizing and say, here's my son. He's got something

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Speaker 3: Well, he's not in the league, so that's probably why

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Speaker 3: they kept him off that platform. But they did say

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Speaker 3: and they kind of put it to bed after that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's certainly not ideal. It's embarrassing that everybody involved.

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Speaker 3: It's embarrassing to the Falcons, Olbrick, his family, all of that. Like,

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Speaker 3: you certainly don't want that to ever happen. And I

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Speaker 3: mean people have kind of dismissed it whatever, But I'll

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Speaker 3: say this, it was probably one of Sanders' lowest days

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Speaker 3: and when he's having probably one of the toughest moments

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Speaker 3: kid takes advantage of that, and I'm calling him his kid.

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Speaker 3: Olbrick's son takes advantage of that. Certainly, man, there should

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Speaker 3: be more punishment and probably more blame cast on him.

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Speaker 3: I give Shelder saying his credit for filing, taking the

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Speaker 3: the matter. But yeah, it's certainly not something that anybody

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just to understand the whole situation. Now, maybe

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Speaker 2: you could explain to me a lot better, because I'm

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Speaker 2: on the outside looking in. You're on the inside. You're

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Speaker 2: an NFL guy, you played in the league, you work

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Speaker 2: for a team. Okay, he gets the phone number, he

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Speaker 2: sees the number on the iPad. Who does he call

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Speaker 2: Shadeer directly? And what does he say? He says, I'm

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Speaker 2: such team you've been drafted. I mean, how does that work?

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Speaker 2: Doesn't he see the phone number, the number that he's

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Speaker 3: You don't know how Santus can fall for something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. In other words, I mean, and the.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So now you're clearing things up for me a

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Speaker 2: now I get it. So he knew he was smart enough.

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Speaker 3: And say that. All right, but you got yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you got to be some sort of a

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Speaker 3: I mean, you have to you have to feel some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's envy as much as like, mean,

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Speaker 2: That's what they really do to people. But you know,

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Speaker 2: one was Tyre's Halliburton's father. If you remember, he was

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Speaker 2: Andrew Denbrod hit a three, then he got to steal

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Speaker 2: That's the story of the game. Then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: What was that all about? How does that happen?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got I mean, Halliburton's got to be

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Speaker 3: I mean, those things commonly happen when you have people

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Speaker 2: It was believed that they were forehead to forehead. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Halliburton apologized he did it on social media after

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Speaker 2: He said, you know, I don't know if the Pacers

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Speaker 2: So I get it. You know, you're rooting for the team,

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Speaker 2: You're emotional. You know, it is an emotional game. It

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Speaker 1: You see this when you played.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't remember watching games and seeing things like this,

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Speaker 1: And they're common now.

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Speaker 2: It's not like, oh wow, that happened, but it's like

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Speaker 2: with social media? I don't know. I don't understand. I

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Speaker 3: It has look I mean, I've always felt like it's

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't think it's anything new. It just

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Speaker 2: It amazes me. I mean that that this is happening.

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Speaker 2: shouldn't even turn to use the term lunative, but some

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Speaker 2: Thank goodness. I read the other day that you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's alcohol. Maybe the alcohol has something to do

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Speaker 2: so the guys stopped doing it. I mean, Other than that,

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Speaker 2: there's always been some crazies out there, but I think

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Speaker 3: I mean, everybody wants to be famous. Everyone seeks attention

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Speaker 2: You know, you're exactly right, you know, they want to

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Speaker 2: they probably could have got away with it, but they're

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Speaker 2: everybody saw that and they saw who did it. That's

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Speaker 2: I mean, they do it to be famous. They or

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Speaker 2: what they do. I mean, it just it doesn't make

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Speaker 2: I don't understand it. I really do know. I saw

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Speaker 2: They probably were tanked up on beer and they were

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Speaker 2: I mean, is it that important to root for a

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Speaker 2: I guess to some people it is.

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Speaker 2: we talked about Shudre Sanders who got punked in the

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Speaker 2: NFL draft. Guess what he wasn't alone? Bucky Brooks, he

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Speaker 2: was not alone. And I got a list over here

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Speaker 2: guys who basically were punked also in that draft. They're

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Speaker 2: investigating a series of calls after Abdul Carter, Mason Graham,

474
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Speaker 2: Tyler Warren, Kyle McCord, and Chase Lunt reported their own incidents.

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Speaker 2: How do you like that? Carter, Graham and Warren, they

476
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Speaker 2: were all in the first round. They were picking the

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Speaker 2: first round, with the former two going in the top

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Speaker 2: five to the New York and Cleveland Browns. Okay, and

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Speaker 2: Carter later told the media that someone claimed to be

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Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars when they reached him on his private number.

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Speaker 1: That do you hear about that?

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Speaker 2: Because that's your baby.

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Speaker 3: I did not hear about that, but I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 3: I mean, people were throwing all kinds of stuff out

485
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Speaker 3: there to see if they could kind of I just

486
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Speaker 3: put a little damper on people's days.

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Speaker 2: This is really sick, it really is. I mean, I

488
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Speaker 2: don't even laugh at this stuff, and I'm I'm kind

489
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Speaker 2: of open to laughing at a lot of things. But

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Speaker 2: the offensive tackle just Connolly Jr. He was a first

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Speaker 2: round pick of the Commanders. He said to the DC's

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Speaker 2: radio station one O six point seven the Fan that

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Speaker 2: he got one prank call as well, specifically from a

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Speaker 2: Colorado resident pretending to be the Denver Broncos. All right,

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Speaker 2: that's amazing, because I just don't understand how open these

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Speaker 2: phone calls or the phone numbers are. I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: Because the NFL said they only provided private phone numbers

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Speaker 2: to teams for the fifteen players who attended the draft

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Speaker 2: in Green I don't understand how these these phone numbers

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Speaker 2: become so open and so public. I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: The reason the reason why the numbers were open because

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Speaker 3: they were emailed. They're distributed to everybody. That's not the

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Speaker 3: normal protocol. But because people change their numbers at the

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Speaker 3: last minute. Uh, they were trying to lead was trying

505
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Speaker 3: to get it out to everybody so they had it.

506
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Speaker 3: It's important to have all the information on draft days

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Speaker 3: so you can pick up the call. It's customary to

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Speaker 3: call a player before you're going to pick him to one.

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Speaker 3: Make sure that you talk to him before you put

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Speaker 3: the card in to make sure everything is good with

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Speaker 3: him and to be able to exchange pleasantries with him.

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Speaker 3: The general manager of the head coach directly. So it

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Speaker 3: is not uncommon for the numbers to be distributed. It's

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Speaker 3: uncommon for the numbers to land in the hands of

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Speaker 3: some of the people that are landed in.

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Speaker 2: Now here's my take on this. This is going to

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Speaker 2: be a game now for draft day in the future.

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Speaker 2: And what do I mean by that? People have a

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Speaker 2: sick sort of like ego in the sense that they're

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Speaker 2: gonna have individual best like I could do, what you

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Speaker 2: could do, whatever it might be, and they're gonna have

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Speaker 2: a lot of people doing this. So I think that

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Speaker 2: the more publicity, the more exposure this this prank stuff gets,

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Speaker 2: the more pranks that will happen down the road. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong, but I hope I am because it's stupid,

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Speaker 2: it really is. But I just gotta believe there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be people who are gonna be wagering. That's what they're

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Speaker 2: gonna do. They're gonna wager. I bet I could prank

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Speaker 2: this guy. I bet I could prank this guy. And

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Speaker 2: the more it gets exposed, the more people are gonna

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Speaker 2: do it. That's just the way it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe. I mean, it's a copycat society, so

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Speaker 3: people are gonna do some of these things. Like hopefully

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Speaker 3: we can move past it. It's something that should never happen.

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Speaker 3: These guys shouldn't be subject to this kind of stuff,

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Speaker 3: and the league should find a way to rectify it.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you right now. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: they could do. I mean, obviously these phone numbers will

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Speaker 2: be a lot more discreet, but I don't know what

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Speaker 2: they could do. That's their problem, not mine or us.

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Speaker 2: So we move on, and I want to talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit. Should do saying this because I give him

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Speaker 2: a lot of credit the way he held up during

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Speaker 2: that draft, picked one forty four on the fifth round.

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Speaker 2: He went through living hell, no doubt about that. And

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Speaker 2: there was a comment by Tom Brady was Tom Brady

547
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Speaker 2: apparently watched the draft with Michael Strahan from Good Morning America,

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Speaker 2: and Tom Brady said something I thought was very smart.

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Speaker 2: He says there was more pressure on shuduor Sanders than

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Speaker 2: it was on him on Tom Brady. Why is that?

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Speaker 2: Because Brady was not a guess, wasn't pit until the

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Speaker 2: sixth round, and he wasn't pited prior to the draft

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Speaker 2: as a first round selection. Sheduer Sanders was everybody thought

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Speaker 2: he would be a first round pick. So there was

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Speaker 2: not that much pressure really on Tom Brady.

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Speaker 3: Now there wasn't because no one expected Tom Brady. There

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Speaker 3: weren't any expectations for Tom Brady. Typically, when a guy's

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Speaker 3: taken into fifth, sixth, or seventh round, you don't have

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Speaker 3: significant expectations. The depicts on those days are whatever viewed

560
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Speaker 3: as developmental players like their kids who were brought in.

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Speaker 3: You hope that they're able to flash enough that you

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Speaker 3: keep them around and in time they develop and become contributors.

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Speaker 3: Not even that they become starters, but they become tributors, backups,

564
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Speaker 3: role players, special team standouts or whatever. And so for

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Speaker 3: Shudur to come in as a fifth round pick, that

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Speaker 3: would be the normal plight, that would be the normal

567
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Speaker 3: plan that is a fifth ron pick. You're hoping to

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Speaker 3: latch on, maybe be a practice squad player, maybe be

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Speaker 3: a third quarterback and those things. The problem is because

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Speaker 3: he has so much hype around him, because there's so

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Speaker 3: many people that expected him to be the first quarterback

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Speaker 3: take and after cam Ward was selected, he comes in

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Speaker 3: with the devil level of intrigue. So even though the

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Speaker 3: draft status says one thing, the outside world is going

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Speaker 3: to view him as another because we have spent and

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Speaker 3: we continue to spend a lot of the time discussing

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Speaker 3: Shadur Sanders as the face of the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 3: NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. I'll tell you what. The

580
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Speaker 2: NFL behind closed doors probably loved it because the ratings

581
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 2: went through the roof and it was all about your

582
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: door standers. You know, I felt bad for Shador, But

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Speaker 2: the point is that as far as the NFL is concerned,

584
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Speaker 2: they were a big time winner because I think the

585
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Speaker 2: ratings went through the roof and it was all about

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Speaker 2: your door stet. He was the kingpin. He was the

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Speaker 2: focal point of the draft. He really was. Was he

588
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Speaker 2: going to get drafted early? On the fact that he didn't,

589
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: everybody was holding their breath saying when will he get drafted?

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Speaker 2: So it was a very successful draft for the NFL,

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Speaker 2: not so much for Shadull Sanders. Now, Tom Brady came

592
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Speaker 2: back and told Michael Strahan in that same meeting when

593
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Speaker 2: they were together, he says, it doesn't matter when you're picked.

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Speaker 2: I sort of disagree. Do you agree with that statement

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Speaker 2: that it doesn't matter when you're picked in the draft?

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, I think what people are saying, it

597
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Speaker 3: really doesn't matter. Like, ultimately you're gonna have an opportunity

598
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Speaker 3: to prove yourself. So when you come in first round

599
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Speaker 3: to seventh rounder, it doesn't matter. Now what round you

600
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Speaker 3: come in will lead to how many opportunities you have

601
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Speaker 3: to show improve But yeah, everyone's gonna have an opportunity

602
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Speaker 3: to play because ultimately the game is decided. Teams are

603
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Speaker 3: decided by how you perform in between the lines. So

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Speaker 3: Sanders and other late round picks will have an opportunity

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Speaker 3: to show if they can make it or not. It

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Speaker 3: just will be probably far fewer opportunities than you would

607
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Speaker 3: have if you were a top pick.

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Speaker 2: So basically what he's implying here is that you'll have

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Speaker 2: a chance to make the team no matter what. And

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Speaker 2: I guess in Sanders situation, he's been taken fifth by

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Speaker 2: the Browns, he's going to be in the same spot

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Speaker 2: that he's been in now, is if he was picked

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Speaker 2: in the first or second round, because he's got competition

614
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Speaker 2: coming from who Dylan Gabriel and Kenny Pickett and Joe

615
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Speaker 2: flat though. He's got to compete with those guys no

616
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Speaker 2: matter where he was drafted anyway, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but now it's just a matter of how do

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00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: the Browns div you up opportunities. Typically, you know your

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Speaker 3: third round pick will get more than your fifth round

620
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Speaker 3: pick just because you expect your third round pick to

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Speaker 3: be on the team. Your fifth round pick is not

622
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Speaker 3: a given to be on the team. But once they

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Speaker 3: made the decision to take Sanders, they had to put

624
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Speaker 3: a plan. They will put a plan in place to

625
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Speaker 3: make sure everyone gets a fair shake. It'll be different,

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Speaker 3: it'd be hard to do. There'd be a lot of

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Speaker 3: intrigue and a lot of attention play on Sanders just

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Speaker 3: because of him being a Sanders and all the other stuff.

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Speaker 3: And then he'll have to figure it out, like the

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Speaker 3: team will figure out who ultimately makes the team and

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Speaker 3: in which one of the four is QB one.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because initially you know, you're happy

633
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: he finally got drafted, and the only difference being from

634
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Speaker 2: where he was supposed to be drafted is to the

635
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Speaker 2: fifth round. He's gonna make a lot less money. But

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Speaker 2: now you bring up something very interesting. He got Gabriel, Picket, Flacco,

637
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Speaker 2: and Sanders. That has four quarterbacks, and in the minds

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Speaker 2: of the personnel people, you know, you're right. He got

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Speaker 2: drafted in the fifth round. But he's probably head and

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Speaker 2: shoulders better than Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel agreed, And

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco's too old anyways for the future. I mean,

642
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Speaker 2: he's a stopgut band aid kind of guy. I think

643
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Speaker 2: it's forty years old.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to disrespect any of those guys

645
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Speaker 3: by saying that he's head and shoulders better. I don't know.

646
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Speaker 3: We won't know until we play. All the stuff that

647
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: we've done in the draft, all of that talking about

648
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Speaker 3: what we think people are going to be, we won't

649
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Speaker 3: know into play the pros because everyone who dominates in

650
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: college doesn't dominate in the pros. And this will be

651
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Speaker 3: a chance for us to see if your durs Sanders

652
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Speaker 3: is as good as we talked about him leading up

653
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Speaker 3: to the draft, yeah, he should be a better player

654
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Speaker 3: than Dylan Gabriel and potentially better than Kenny Pickett and

655
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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco. But we won't know until he gets the ball.

656
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Speaker 3: Unto Dylan Gabriel gets the ball, until Kenny Picket gets

657
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Speaker 3: the ball. In that environment, we won't know anything. The

658
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Speaker 3: thing that we do know, the last time Joe Flacco

659
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Speaker 3: played in Cleveland, he was an NFL Comeback Player of

660
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Speaker 3: the Year, So I won't dismiss him as a Super

661
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Speaker 3: Bowl champion and the guy who's played for a long

662
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Speaker 3: time in the league to say that he can't play,

663
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Speaker 3: I will say that for sure, Durr Sanders to win

664
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Speaker 3: the job over the competition, he is going to have

665
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Speaker 3: to play at an unbelievable level to win it coming

666
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Speaker 3: out of training camp. It can be done, but it's

667
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Speaker 3: uncommon for a fifth round pick to be a starter

668
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Speaker 3: at any position by the end of training camp. Uncommon.

669
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Speaker 3: That is not the likely course of events.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so explain this to me, because again I'm going

671
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Speaker 2: back with your experience being a player and scout. Whatever

672
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Speaker 2: it may be. All Right, fifth round pick, they play

673
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Speaker 2: four preseason games, and is he going to start the

674
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Speaker 2: preseason game? Will he get that fair chance being a

675
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Speaker 2: fifth round pick, Because going right now on the depth shot,

676
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Speaker 2: I probably think that Joe Flacco is the starting quarterback.

677
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Speaker 2: On the depth chart, he's number one, But how does

678
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Speaker 2: he get the fair amount of reps and snaps, be

679
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Speaker 2: it in practice or in game situations, because I'm sure

680
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Speaker 2: if he doesn't, there's going to be some holy hell

681
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: to pay from either him or his daddy. They're going

682
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: to say like he never got a fair shake. So

683
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: he's got to get that fair opportunity to play, right,

684
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Speaker 2: how do you fit that in with four quarterbacks four

685
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: preseason games? Does he get an entire game to start?

686
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: He's going to be playing with the B team, not

687
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: with the A team, So that right away is behind

688
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: the eight ball. He's got a long haul to go

689
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Speaker 2: to try to make this ball club.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he has a long hol to go, and everyone

691
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Speaker 3: has to understand that. So the pieus guy think about

692
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Speaker 3: him coming out of nowhere to win the job, that

693
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Speaker 3: is probably being too presumptuous. The first thing that Shoulder

694
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Speaker 3: Sanders has to do, like all late round picks have

695
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Speaker 3: to do is he has to make a team. He

696
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: has to make the team. He has to show enough

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Speaker 3: in practices to warrant consideration. As a guy who makes

698
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Speaker 3: the fifty three, he is going to get the last

699
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Speaker 3: of the reps in preseason games. They only have three

700
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Speaker 3: preseason games, So the fifth round picks and those guys

701
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Speaker 3: the late round players, they normally play the end of

702
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Speaker 3: the third in the entire fourth quarter. That's what in

703
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Speaker 3: the first game. The second game, maybe they get in

704
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Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, and in the third game they

705
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Speaker 3: may or may not play, depending on where their status

706
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Speaker 3: is on the team or on the cut line and

707
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Speaker 3: those things. So in reality, will he get enough reps

708
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Speaker 3: to be able to win the job. It's gonna be hard.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be very, very difficult for him to do

710
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Speaker 3: it unless he comes out to Gate Humming and many

711
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Speaker 3: can and OTAs to put himself in a position where

712
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Speaker 3: they're like, hey, well, you know what, maybe we have

713
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Speaker 3: something in training camp to give him a legitimate look.

714
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Speaker 3: But training camp is abbreviated. So he has to win

715
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Speaker 3: the job in essence, two weeks in training camp to

716
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Speaker 3: be able to put himself in a position to legitimately

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Speaker 3: win the jobb in games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and a terrible thing for me to say, but

719
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Speaker 2: I'll say it anyway that he's probably hoping. I don't

720
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Speaker 2: think he is, but fans of his are hoping that

721
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Speaker 2: maybe someone hurts themselves he's got a shot to play. Really,

722
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Speaker 2: someone breaks down, not a serious injury, but the guy

723
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Speaker 2: who has to go to the bench because he can't play.

724
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Speaker 2: That's the only way he may be moving up on

725
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Speaker 2: the depth chart.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a part of it. I mean, but

727
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: injuries happened. I mean, you don't wish for that, but yeah,

728
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: circumstances have to go his way for him to get

729
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: an opportunity to play. They will try and create one.

730
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Speaker 3: Like so maybe early in training camp, Joe Flacco just

731
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Speaker 3: kind of chills. They make it a three quarterback race, Pickett, Gabriel,

732
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Speaker 3: and Sanders to see who can be the one that

733
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Speaker 3: ultimately competes with Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco probably needs the

734
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Speaker 3: fewest reps of anybody because he's played the most in

735
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Speaker 3: the league and a couple of years ago they picked

736
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Speaker 3: him off the couch and he came and had success.

737
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Speaker 3: But yeah, those first that first game is going to

738
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Speaker 3: be huge on Gabriel him and pick it because they

739
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: all have to have an opportunity to play. Look, it's

740
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: not the most ideal situation, but that's the situation he's in.

741
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Speaker 3: He has to see himself as the underdog, even though

742
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: we will talk about him as the favorite, and then

743
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 3: he has to figure out how to get it done.

744
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: Shadua Sanders is like stunning in the Kentucky Derby in

745
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: the back row. That's what he's doing right now. He

746
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: really is. I hope he makes it. I'm pulling for

747
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: miamim I really am. All right, Bucky Brooks, Andy Furman,

748
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Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Sunthing on Fox Sports Radio. It's

749
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: time for all the answers. How do you get then?

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Speaker 2: Ask Bucky. It's next.

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Speaker 2: All right, asked Bucky. Coming right up, This is Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio Buckets Bucky Brooks, I

757
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: mean Andy Firmanent. We're live from the Fox Sports Radio

758
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Speaker 2: studios and it's about ten minutes before the top of

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Speaker 2: the hour on a Sunday yes, all right, here we go,

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Speaker 2: ask buckets time, let's talk about Major League Baseball. Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball in the month of April averaged twenty seven

762
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Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty one patrons per game, which is

763
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Speaker 2: the best attendance since twenty seventeen. All right, now, I'm thinking,

764
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Speaker 2: maybe it's the pitch clock. Maybe it's the Mets success,

765
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 2: maybe the Dodgers success. I don't know one of the factors.

766
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Speaker 2: Why is Major League's baseball attendants best in April since

767
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. Bucky Brooks, The game is a little.

768
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Speaker 3: More exciting because of the pitch clock. You kind of

769
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: know that it's going to go fast. It's not the

770
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: long drawn out game that we're accustomed to. And I'll

771
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: be honest, like it's a great activity for the family.

772
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Speaker 3: Like when you have kids and you want to connect,

773
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: there's nothing better than a connect over a baseball game.

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00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 2: You're probably right, nothing better than going through the game

775
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: under the sun, under the sun during the day. Now,

776
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: by the age of twenty six years, Jason Brown, you

777
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: may know him, Jason Brown was already the highest paid

778
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 2: center in NFL history. Three years later, he walked away

779
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 2: from the game of football and he became a farmer.

780
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: Can you explain that to me? He knew nothing about farming.

781
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: He's a farmer right now. Leaving the NFL.

782
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: Well, he played in North Carolina and he just decided

783
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 3: that he had a passion for it, and he's fully

784
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: dedicated himself to being a farmer. He wanted to find

785
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Speaker 3: a way to help people and he felt like but

786
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Speaker 3: he could help people the most by providing quality food options.

787
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Speaker 3: So look, I flawed him. I think we all in

788
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: sports have to get on at some point with the

789
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: next mission in life. And so he found a passion,

790
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: he found a mission for him to pursue. So hats

791
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Speaker 3: off to him.

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Speaker 2: I did some research on him. Instead of going on

793
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 2: for football in high school, he was in the marching

794
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: band during his freshman year in Northern Vance High School.

795
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Speaker 2: I guess that's in North Carolina, well Northern Vans. Yeah, amazing,

796
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Speaker 2: It's great. I love it. I mean, he did what

797
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: he wanted to do, and good for him. Really. Okay,

798
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Speaker 2: we mentioned this in passing a little while ago, but

799
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, how happy do you think NBA officials

800
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Speaker 2: are with the possibility of Oklahoma City and Cleveland in

801
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: the finals. Maybe not so much NBA officials, maybe the

802
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: TV networks because you know, you're looking at Oklahoma City

803
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: and Cleveland that big time major markets like Boston, La,

804
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: New York.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I think they want stars, and what

806
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: we do know is shake Yodis Alexander and Donovan Mitchell

807
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 3: are stars, and so the star players mad I remember

808
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Speaker 3: Lebron James played in Cleveland and the NBA didn't have

809
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 3: any issue with Cleveland being in the finals then, so

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00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: I don't see that they will have a problem with

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Speaker 3: them making the finals.

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Speaker 2: Now, all right, Okay, we go to in the situation here.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday was the Kentucky Derby. So I wanted to get

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Speaker 2: Bucki's bucket list, your top five sporting events, and is

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Speaker 2: the Kentucky Derby be on that list? On your bucket list?

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Speaker 3: The Kentucky Derby would be on the bucket list. I

817
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Speaker 3: would love to go to a Grand Prix.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I just had a conversation my daughter about that. I

820
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Speaker 3: would say, she.

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Speaker 2: Wants to go to she wants to go to Grand Prix.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So we pick a Grand Prix to go to

824
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Speaker 3: because she's watching some show f one maybe on Netflix.

825
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Speaker 3: So Kentucky Derby f one. I would love to go

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Speaker 3: to the French Open tennis to see that out. I

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Speaker 3: would like to go to a Stanley Cup finals to

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Speaker 3: finish that, and then I would like to finish it

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Speaker 3: going to an Olympics or some not necessarily in LA

830
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Speaker 3: because that's the next one, but Olympics out of our country.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm really impressed with the vast gamut that

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Speaker 2: you've kind of covered this blanket of your top five

833
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Speaker 2: events and you left out I guess the super Bowl.

834
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Speaker 2: You know, to you, you've been there, done that, so

835
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Speaker 2: it's not a big deal. Maybe that's the way it's

836
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Speaker 2: not on the list. But some of the World Series.

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Speaker 3: Already been already. Yeah, I've already been. I've already been

838
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Speaker 3: a bunch of those things. I haven't been to a

839
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Speaker 3: World Series game that would be next, but I hope

840
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: when the Dodgers go again, I'll check that out. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: all those other things I've attended amazing.

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Speaker 2: That's great. I love to hear that. I had one

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Speaker 2: more question to you, but I think I'm gonna hold

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Speaker 2: that out for you and we'll do that. But right now,

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Speaker 2: he's only human, So what's the big deal that?

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Speaker 1: And more?

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Speaker 2: Where Fox Sports Sunday coming up right here next. Hey,

848
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Speaker 2: what's wrong with control? We'll get to that in just

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Speaker 2: about a minute. Good morning, everybody, this is Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. We're bro testing life from the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. I mean, Deferman. And he's my guy,

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Speaker 2: he's my partner, he's my friend, He's Bucky Brooks. And

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Speaker 2: away we go this there's a lot to talk about, Bucky.

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Speaker 2: And I wanted to ask if you had even watched

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Speaker 2: the Kentucky Derby yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I did not watch it. I saw all the stuff.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I know the Kentucky Derby is to rage.

858
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: A few years ago athletes of other sports decided to

859
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 3: make it kind of like the thing to do, so

860
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 3: you see a lot of guys going to it. But

861
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: I didn't get a chance and check it out yesterday.

862
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: You know, I was shocked because I do live in

863
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 2: the Great Commonwealth of Kentucky and I've been to several

864
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 2: Kentucky Derbies. I didn't go yesterday. It was pouring rain

865
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: and it was mud all over the place where they

866
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: still had one hundred and forty seven thousand people, which

867
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm shocked, I really am. I think the record was

868
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: like twenty twenty three they had one hundred and fifty

869
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 2: thousand plus, which is again a tremendous which tells me

870
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: that it's not the sport of horse racing. It's a

871
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: social event. It's a place to say I've been there,

872
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: done that, I want to be seen over there. And

873
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: I think sports right now has turned maybe into like

874
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: events more than sports. What I mean by that that

875
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: you want to go to the super Bowl, you want

876
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 2: to go to the Kentucky Derby, want an NBA Finals

877
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: opening day in baseball in Cincinnati to have a parade,

878
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: it's a big deal. The rest of the season, you know,

879
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 2: unless they're winning, unless it's a big team coming in

880
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: to play or some big time player coming in. That's

881
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: basically it. It's events. That's what sports has become. I believe.

882
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong. I think it's an event type of thing,

883
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: except maybe the NFL, because every Sunday is an event

884
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: and there's only a certain amount of games. It's seventeen games,

885
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 2: but if you live in an NFL city, you're only

886
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: going to get eight, maybe nine, that's what you get.

887
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: So it's an event, that's what it is.

888
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, it is a social event. And the

889
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: big thing about the Kentucky Derby is all about the fashion.

890
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 3: It's all about like getting dressed to the knives, which

891
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: is what a lot of athletes and a lot of

892
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: celebrities are into, like seeing be CNB seen, and they

893
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: want to show off how they put it together. So

894
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 3: you saw Jackson darr and a bunch of NFL and

895
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 3: players at the event kind of showing off being dressed

896
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: to the nids. And so it's become a very very

897
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 3: fun and festive event that everyone wants to see. And oh, by,

898
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 3: the race is a horse races as part of the backdrop.

899
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: Right, And speaking of dressing to the nines, I'm going

900
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: to go at a little down the road and maybe

901
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 2: go in the opposite direction dressing to the ones. And

902
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: dressing to the ones was my favorite guy, Bill Belichick

903
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: and his interview last Sunday on CBS Sunday Morning. He

904
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: was wearing a Navy football sweatshirt with a hole in

905
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: it and he's dressing to the ones. You know, that's

906
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: his parrogative. He wants to do that. That's fine. You know,

907
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: he wants to be different, and I get it. I'm

908
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: not gonna argue with the guy. I love him, He's

909
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: been great to me, and I'll love to knock the guy.

910
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: And everybody's knocking the guy. You know what, I'm going

911
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: to tell you why they're knocking him. He's got a

912
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: girlfriend's twenty four years of age. He's seventy three.

913
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 4: You know.

914
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: Is it weird? Is it strange? It's not the norm.

915
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: I get it, But you know what, people that are

916
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: knocking him are old guys that are jealous because they

917
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: can't get a twenty four year old girlfriend. Maybe I'm wrong,

918
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm out of turn. Maybe I'm stupid for saying

919
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: that leave him alone. I don't get it. But you're

920
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: a North Carolina guy. Let's start from square one. Belichick's

921
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: your coach right now. Obviously, a coach the same age

922
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: basically of Bill Belichick left retired is no longer there.

923
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: You would think they would have gone through a younger guy,

924
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 2: maybe even with college experience. House shocked, weyure that Belichick

925
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: got the job. What are you hearing from your alma mater?

926
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: Look, I mean, obviously it's a big deal when a

927
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: Super Bowl champion takes over a college program, because no

928
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: one had that on the radar when he came to Carolina.

929
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: The one thing that he did is he kind of

930
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 3: brought instant credibility in terms of his coaching style, his

931
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 3: actually his resume, all of those things. All that has

932
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: been great. He's been well received in North Carolina. The

933
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: girlfriend thing has become a thing that went from being

934
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: interesting to now just more so like fodder for everyone

935
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: to weigh in and in a very intense and highly

936
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: competitive environment that is college recruiting, it has been something

937
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 3: that people can negatively use against Belichick and the school

938
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 3: and those things because he looks like he's the out

939
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 3: of control old man who everything is passed him by.

940
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: He has this young girl who's running everything. Now his

941
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: relationship is his relationship, and I would say his relationship

942
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 3: may not be any different than the relationship Nick Saban

943
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: had with his wife, Miss Terry. Miss Terry was very

944
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 3: intimately involved with things that went in the program because

945
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: that's what Saban wanted. If Bill Belichick wants his girlfriend

946
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 3: to be heavily involved in the things that are related

947
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: to North Carolina that come his way, then so be it.

948
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: But it's something to talk about because the people that

949
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 3: hated Belichick, this is just more fuel to the fire

950
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: another way to get at him for being who he's

951
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: always been. For those that support him, they'll blow it

952
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 3: off and laugh it off, like, hey man, it's an

953
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 3: old man found a high little chick to hang out with,

954
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: and that's what it is. I mean, look, it's unusual

955
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: in terms of the age gap, but let's be real.

956
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: He is not the first rich, older man who's had

957
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: a young piece of candy on his arm.

958
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying. No, it's funny because I

959
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: think if Bill Belichick went to coach college, be in

960
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 2: North Carolina or any other college back in the day

961
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: before NIL, I think he'd be in trouble because I

962
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: think from an NFL standpoint, going to someone's home to

963
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 2: recruit a kid, I think it's a different situation where

964
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: you lose that power. The fact that there's nil. I

965
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: think Belichick has an untapped resource of money. He could

966
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: go out there and almost get any college kid he

967
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: wants for a his name and be the checkbook. I

968
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: really believe he could get that kind of money. He

969
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: signed the contract in North Carolina for ten million dollars.

970
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: He's got an opportunity he could get out of that

971
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: deal in a year if he wants to, if the

972
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: NFL calls him again, I mean, he's got whatever it takes.

973
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 2: He got whatever he wants in North Carolina. And I

974
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: love that the fact that he's got the young girlfriend

975
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: over there, Jordan, and obviously he's got her as a

976
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: chief operating officer of Belichick Productions. I think it's a

977
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 2: great situation because she could relate to the college kids.

978
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: And I think Bill Belichick, as you know, he's called Twitter,

979
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: you know, Twitter space and whatever it may be, because

980
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: he doesn't know much about that, nor should he at

981
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: his age because he's not used to it. But he's

982
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: got the girl. Wasn't handling that now?

983
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he knows far more. I think he

984
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 3: likes to play games like he doesn't know. I'm sure

985
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 3: he's very aware. And look, man, when and we all

986
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 3: reach the age where we don't really care what outsiders

987
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: think about how we're living or what we're doing, he's

988
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: reached that point. I will say. Like the big thing

989
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: that people are harping on is because she's so intimately involved,

990
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: Like people that have kind of portrayed her as the climber,

991
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: the girl, the lady that has taken advantage of the

992
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 3: old man the lady who is using his celebrity to

993
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: feel her own dreams and desires to be famous. Well,

994
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 3: guess what, there are a lot of players and coaches

995
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 3: wives that do the same thing already. It is just

996
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 3: that the age disparity between the two has created this

997
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 3: icky feel to it. That's what some people would describe

998
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: it as. But make no mistake, man, when they started

999
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: doing basketball wives and real hopswives of whatever city that

1000
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 3: they designate, like, there are a lot of wives that

1001
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 3: are using their husband's fame to help launch their own

1002
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 3: careers Like that is not uncommon. So we are seeing

1003
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 3: this play out in full time, and there are some

1004
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: people that don't like one the way that it's coming off.

1005
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: Two they don't like Belichick, so any chance to have

1006
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 3: a chance, to opportunity to take a shot at them,

1007
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: they do. And Three, it's the slow season. There's nothing

1008
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 3: to talk about, so people want to talk about this.

1009
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: When they kick off the ball, the story and about

1010
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 3: Jordan will go away and it will be about Belichick

1011
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: and the ball.

1012
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: No doubt about that. Now, I hate to get too personal,

1013
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 2: and if I am, if I'm treading on personal inside information,

1014
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 2: just tell me and I'll stop. But you played the game,

1015
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 2: you played in college, and you played in the NFL.

1016
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: Did you see women, maybe not even with yourself, but

1017
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: with teammates whatever, trying to latch on to get success,

1018
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 2: to be status climbers because of athletes and the money

1019
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: that they make. Did you see that or did it

1020
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 2: happen to you?

1021
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 3: No, I mean it happens all the time. We see

1022
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: it play out in real time. Like I just mentioned

1023
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: all the shows and those shows spond other shows with

1024
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: wives of athletes and uh, celebrities being on TV, and

1025
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 3: everyone wants to be famous. I mean, look, no make Instagram,

1026
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 3: social media. We have ig models, Instagram models, and OnlyFans

1027
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 3: participants in everybody else where. There's this luss to be famous,

1028
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 3: the luss to be someone that is viewed as a celebrity,

1029
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 3: whether you're a real celebrity or not. So yeah, like

1030
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: you see this and you can see the climbers and

1031
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 3: the creators and everyone searching for that little bit of

1032
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 3: fame that takes them to another level. So yeah, I

1033
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 3: just see it. I've seen it. I see it. I've

1034
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: seen it back in the day. I see it now.

1035
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: It's kind of a part of the landscape.

1036
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: I do it with you. I use I try to

1037
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: climb up on the social lot because I tell everybody

1038
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: I know, Bucky Brooks, really, I really do. That's what

1039
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 2: I do. But getting to the CBS Sunday More, on

1040
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 2: an interview, she jumped in, I'm talking about Jordan Hudson

1041
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: and his girlfriend jumped in when they asked how they met,

1042
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: and she said, we're not talking about this. And I

1043
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: don't understand why that was such a big deal because

1044
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: I think the ground rules as I read the ground

1045
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: rules were said prior to the interview. That's going to

1046
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: be an interview to promote his new book, The Aught

1047
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 2: of Winning Lessons for My Life in Football by Bill Belichick.

1048
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: That's the deal. And I understand that. You know, that

1049
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: was initially how this interviewer got in there to do

1050
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 2: the interview, because Belichick doesn't do many interviews, and he said, well,

1051
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: I'll do that to kind of promote my book, and

1052
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: he kind of went off on a tangent. But you know,

1053
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 2: for her to do that, I have no problem with that,

1054
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: and everybody went crazy. You know what if he would

1055
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: have said that, I thought we weren't doing that. That

1056
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: was initially discussed that. We're discussing my book. That's it.

1057
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 2: What's the big deal? Who cares? I really don't care

1058
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 2: how they met? And you know what we learned how

1059
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: they met? Who was on a plane flight two years ago?

1060
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: Who cares? Does a public really care how they met?

1061
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 3: Honestly, the public years because we all are into gossip stuff, right,

1062
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: So that's a part of it, Like there's this consumption,

1063
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 3: there's this obsession with knowing everyone's business and the tea

1064
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 3: and how did this seventy three year old man meet

1065
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 3: this twenty four year old girl? Like, oh my god,

1066
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: this is so inappropriate for someone who is decorated for bill,

1067
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: like Bill Belichick, who with someone who is so young?

1068
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 3: But I will say this, he's not the first older

1069
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 3: man that we've seen grow out with a younger woman.

1070
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: He won't be the last older man that we see

1071
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 3: grow up with a younger woman. Look, if she wants

1072
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 3: to hang out with him and he wants to hang

1073
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 3: out with her, so be it, and whatever we think

1074
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 3: about it, Like they're too grown, consenting adults. They entered

1075
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 3: in a relationship of their own choice, and so whatever

1076
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: it is, it is. And if he wants to spend

1077
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 3: his golden years hanging out with twenty somethings. So be it.

1078
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just saying, wherever we go, like it happens.

1079
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 3: So I'm not surprised. I am particularly not surprised that

1080
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 3: someone famous is like cozied up to someone who is

1081
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 3: young and someone deemed to be hot and all that

1082
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 3: other stuff. That's That's just what I ask you this.

1083
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 2: It would there be as much pushback if there was

1084
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 2: an older woman with a younger man. I don't think so,

1085
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: I really don't. I think that's more acceptable than than

1086
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: the older man and a younger woman. Maybe I'm wrong

1087
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: and we don't see much of that, or maybe it's

1088
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: not as we've seen it.

1089
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 3: I mean we've seen it. I mean we've seen that

1090
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 3: stuff like Chris Jenner, Kim Kardashian's Moms with someone who's

1091
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: significantly younger. We've seen it time and time again, like

1092
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 3: it happens. We're at a point where we go back

1093
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 3: and forth. I think the reason why it really resonates

1094
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: is because of Bill Belichick and his star power, Like

1095
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: his name generates attention and clicks in those things, and

1096
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 3: so right now it's the hot conversation to be involved

1097
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: in between Shudurs and is in Bill Belichick. Those are

1098
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: the things that are moving the needle in the news cycle.

1099
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm more concerned not with his romance and the

1100
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: age gap with his girlfriend. I'm more concerned with the book,

1101
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: which I ordered the book. I haven't gotten it yet.

1102
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: But I'm more concerned that he didn't even mention Robert

1103
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: Kraft in his book, And I think they could have

1104
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: stayed on that because he spent twenty four years with

1105
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: the Patriots and the owner Robert Kraft, and honestly, you

1106
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 2: gotta like the fact that he's just meant not mentioning

1107
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: him at all shows that I guess the hatred he had,

1108
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: the way he was treated, and he was treated poorly.

1109
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: He was treated poorly because you know, they asked if

1110
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: he was fighting, he said no, he resigned, and I

1111
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 2: think Craft probably told him to pack his bags and leave.

1112
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 2: But the fact that he never mentioned Kraft in that

1113
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: book speaks volumes, and that's where he could have stayed

1114
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: on that and say, well, I don't get it. You

1115
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: work for the guy twenty four years. How do you

1116
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: not mention the fact that he gave you a chance.

1117
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: He were air and not a boo, not a mention

1118
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: of Robert Kraft. I thought that was big. That's a

1119
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: big thing.

1120
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 3: I think it is a big thing. But Robert Craft

1121
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 3: didn't mention him. In that docu series with the Patriots,

1122
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: they basically made it it was all about ownership and

1123
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 3: Tom Brady. They didn't really talk about Bill Belichick and

1124
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 3: his contributions in those things. It's unfortunate that something that

1125
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 3: was unprecedented, the level of success that this team had

1126
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 3: over twenty plus years, six super Bowl rings, look a

1127
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 3: franchise that really hadn't done anything until he took over.

1128
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 3: They became the Evil Empire. And you know what happens

1129
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 3: typically is when you have success, egos getting away. Everybody

1130
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 3: wants credit for the success, and ownership wanted a significant

1131
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: amount of credit for what took place on the field,

1132
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 3: and they should have some credit, but the credit should

1133
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: be distributed amongst ownership, front office, coaches, players, everybody played

1134
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 3: a role in the team having the level of success

1135
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: that they attained.

1136
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to ask you, well, you're a North

1137
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: Carolina guy, a proud graduate of the Tar Heels. Okay,

1138
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've talked to a lot of a lung

1139
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: and people that are on the staff still, I'm going

1140
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: to ask you a couple of Bill Belichick questions, and

1141
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: what's happening down there in Chapel Hill right now? Now?

1142
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: When North Carolina signed Belichick to a fifty million dollar

1143
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 2: deal to turn their football program around, did the school

1144
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 2: realize that they may be going into a circus, that

1145
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: it might be a circuit like it is right now.

1146
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: It is somewhat of a circus now if he wins

1147
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: and one really cares, but it's a bit of a

1148
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: circus right now.

1149
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 3: I knew they thought it would bringing her out a

1150
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: lot of attention, and initially a lot of that attention

1151
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 3: was positive. Of lady's been negative and a lot of

1152
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 3: the negative attention has been centered on the relationship with

1153
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 3: the girlfriend, public records access that has come out about

1154
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 3: her being you know, he's asked people to treat her

1155
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 3: as the point of contact when it comes to him.

1156
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 3: I don't think that is uncommon Sometimes guys coaches, people

1157
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 3: who are married would reference their wives as a point

1158
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: of contact because they do a better job of organized

1159
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 3: in their affairs than they do. Maybe Belichick is saying, hey,

1160
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: let's you she's better that she can handle that. She

1161
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 3: knows my schedule, she can tell me what the big

1162
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 3: things are that I need to know and handle that.

1163
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 3: So some of that has led to like, well, how

1164
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 3: intimately evolved is she when it comes to the ball

1165
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 3: then the program and what is she doing again? Why

1166
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 3: is a twenty four year old doing it? Whereas if

1167
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 3: she was forty five years old, no one would talk

1168
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 3: about her involvement in terms of what she's doing, how

1169
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 3: she's assisting him with some of the things that are

1170
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 3: related to the program.

1171
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 2: Okay, now you've talked to Alongo obviously know what's going

1172
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: on with the football program. But how many games do

1173
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 2: you think good Belichick has to win for everybody to

1174
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: find this not a distraction, Like everybody'll be happy. They'll say,

1175
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm happy with the status quo. Let

1176
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 2: keep it going. How many games do you think he's

1177
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: got to win next year? Ah?

1178
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I think a reasonable expectation for people

1179
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 3: will be anywhere eight to nine wins. If he's able

1180
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 3: to get that, they'll be happy. And I would say

1181
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 3: eight to nine on the high end. If they're seven

1182
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 3: and five or whatever, people will be like mm. But

1183
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 3: his first year on the program. Uh, this gonna be

1184
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 3: an exaggerated expectation of what he's going to do right away.

1185
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 3: But to me, a realistic thing would be if he

1186
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 3: is able to get to nine wins, that that would

1187
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 3: be more than enough to be deemed a success.

1188
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 2: Okay, here's a quiz question for you. Okay. Last week,

1189
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: one of the two main characters on the Internet were

1190
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: Jordan Hudson and Milk Kuiper. Melk Kiper on sat because

1191
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: he went ballistic when they didn't pick she'ld do a

1192
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: sandy until the fifth round. And obviously Jordan Hudson. What's

1193
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: going on now with Bill Belichick? Who is the main

1194
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 2: character who is bigger on the internet in your mind?

1195
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: Jordan Hudson or melk Kuiper.

1196
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 3: Melk Kuiper was bigger just because of the milltown that

1197
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 3: people talked about. All right, you can stop talking about it.

1198
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 3: You can stop talking about the milltown.

1199
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 2: And honestly, I think mel Kiper would have done himself

1200
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: a better service if he would have said, Okay, I'm wrong,

1201
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: I made a mistake. He basically pointed a finger to

1202
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: the National Football League and said they don't know anything

1203
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: by not drafting, should do it?

1204
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 3: Early on.

1205
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought that was wrong. Oh he made

1206
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: a mistake, face up to it, you know.

1207
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I don't know if he necessarily made a mistake.

1208
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 3: No one knows until we played the game. Just because

1209
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 3: the league picked sure Dr Sanders where they picked him,

1210
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that he's wrong with his evaluation. We won't

1211
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 3: know until after two or three years whether he was

1212
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 3: wrong because if he's doing it the right way, he's

1213
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 3: not to touting the player or drawing the report based

1214
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 3: on where he's going to get picked. He's saying, hey,

1215
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 3: this is how this guy is going to play. And

1216
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 3: so when you say that, I believe that I'm a

1217
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 3: grade him like this because in three years, I believe

1218
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 3: he's going to play like this. That's different. You know,

1219
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 3: how they come into the league is strictly pole position.

1220
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 3: How they play is ultimately determining fact on whether we

1221
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 3: were right or wrong on the evaluation.

1222
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm glad you brought that up because

1223
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 2: all I saw this past week, right after the draft,

1224
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 2: every publication was saying grades for the draft, and I

1225
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: think that's the most ridiculous stupid thing I've ever seen.

1226
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: How do you give teams a grade? I mean, how

1227
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: do you know. I mean, if a team and maybe

1228
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: the player was not that good in college, but he's

1229
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 2: coming in there with a high ceiling and he's going

1230
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 2: to fill a void for that team in that position,

1231
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 2: how do you give a team a C? I mean,

1232
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 2: I don't understand how you grade them, but that's what

1233
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: they do, and they do it every single year, and

1234
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 2: people do it all the time. I don't believe in it.

1235
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: Do you believe in these grading system? I think it's stupid,

1236
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 2: I really do.

1237
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I think a lot of it is stupid,

1238
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 3: but a lot of it is clickbait. A lot of

1239
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 3: it is like fans want to know. They're obsessed with it.

1240
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 3: So whenever you put out a list of grades, it

1241
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 3: is always going to do well in terms of driving,

1242
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: traffic or whatever. It's too soon to really know what

1243
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 3: the plan is and how the plan played out, because

1244
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 3: we haven't seen them play and we don't have a

1245
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,479
Speaker 3: clear vision for how the team wants to utilize them.

1246
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 3: A lot of times, when you are a person that

1247
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 3: is giving grades, you're giving grades based on who you

1248
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 3: like in the draft, not necessarily who you think they

1249
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 3: should like or how it will work out. There's so

1250
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 3: many little rules. I mean to the way that we

1251
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 3: engage the content that you just don't know and depended

1252
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 3: upon how you come about it will depend on how

1253
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 3: you present it, all right.

1254
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 2: I'm talking about presenting it. They'll go back that. Bill

1255
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: Belichick came out with a statement earlier last week saying

1256
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: that his girlfriend Jordan was not attempting to control the conversation,

1257
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 2: and I guess people thought that she was. He said,

1258
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: it's not true when she basically said, we're not talking

1259
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: about this when they asked how they met, and he

1260
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: said it was a false narrative. I mean, and I'm saying,

1261
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 2: what's the big deal about trying to control the situation

1262
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 2: to make yourself look good? And basically Belichick came back

1263
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 2: with a big statement later in the week. I think

1264
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 2: it was like Wednesday or Thursday this past week. I think,

1265
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: to me, if I'm the pr guy, let it die.

1266
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like putting another log on the fire.

1267
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: People kept on talking about it. I know it probably

1268
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 2: irked him because he's always had control. Bill, they talked

1269
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: about control. He's controlled the media all his life. Really,

1270
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: remember what he said, We're moving on to Cincinnati. I mean,

1271
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 2: come on, he's controlled the media every single Sunday, every

1272
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: Wednesday when he had meetings with the news conferences. So

1273
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: now I guess he was a little bent out of

1274
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: shape because when someone said he's trying to control the interview,

1275
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

1276
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: He's always held back. They say, and maybe you've heard

1277
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,479
Speaker 2: this from your friends in the league that people were

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Speaker 2: afraid on the New England Patriots to say the wrong

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Speaker 2: thing to the media for fear of Bill Belichick's vicious

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Speaker 2: attacks to him. They didn't talk to the media the players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's kind of part of the deal.

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Speaker 3: You don't you don't want certain things to get out.

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Speaker 3: I understand it. I'm not mad at it. That's just

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Speaker 3: kind of way the way that he goes and I understand,

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Speaker 3: like there's a lot of intrigue, there's a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling it's just like it's clickbait. This is very

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Speaker 3: easy for it to become a bigger story, and that's

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Speaker 3: why we continue to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: There we go, and we're gonna keep on talking about it.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do everybody's gonna talk about it until they

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Speaker 2: kick the first to kick the first field goal. That's

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Speaker 2: I will talk about the Los Angeles Lakers. You know

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Speaker 2: why they're done. They're toast, they're finished if they are

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01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 2: one all three ninety six home loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves,

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Speaker 2: and it's it's not even a shock, okay. And throughout

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Speaker 2: that five game series with the t Wolves, who was

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Speaker 2: clear Minnesota was better. They were deeper and bigger and

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Speaker 2: more athletic, okay. And there's a lot of questions right

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Speaker 2: now about the LA Lakers, Lebron James and his future,

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01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: Luka Doncik's his defense and obviously the coaching of JJ Reddick.

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Speaker 2: And what do you think about that? Because you love

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Speaker 2: the LA Lakers, I know you do.

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Speaker 3: No, I really don't, but I have opinions, I think

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Speaker 3: obvious to anyone who was watching the series. Look, by

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Speaker 3: the end of the second game, you kind of knew

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Speaker 3: that Minnesota was the better team. You know, they had

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Speaker 3: the more talent, they were younger, they were athletic, and

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Speaker 3: from a matchup standpoint, it was just a bad matchup

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Speaker 3: for the Lakers. Their linked their athleticism would give them problems.

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Speaker 3: But I think the thing that came out of it

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01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 3: is telling for all of those people who were giving

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01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 3: the Mavericks a tough time on why they got rid

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01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 3: of Luca, this might have been a little peak behind

1342
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 3: the curtain as to why they got rid of Luca.

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01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 3: The conditioning and those the lack of conditioning. The things

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Speaker 3: that JJ Reddick alluded to were the same things that

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01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 3: Nico Harrison talked about, and he didn't specifically put it on. Look,

1346
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 3: you talked about the entire team, but you knew he

1347
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 3: was talking about when we watched the games. It'd be

1348
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 3: interesting over time because there's so much vitriol towards Nico

1349
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 3: Harrison for making that trade. Will he ultimately be vindicated

1350
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 3: if the Lakers don't win and don't win at a

1351
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: high level, even though they have one of the top

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Speaker 3: five six players in the league.

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Speaker 2: You took about Rudy Gobert, I mean, he dominated that

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Speaker 2: series and he dominated that final game. And Shaquille O'Neill

1355
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 2: basically has always been like a Rudy Golbert hater, but

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Speaker 2: he admitted even on TV that Rudy Goldbert was the

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Speaker 2: reason Minnesota was dominating the Lakers, at least in the

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Speaker 2: first half. In that game the other day, that one

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Speaker 2: O three ninety six win for Minnesota. Rudy Golbert seven footer. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he was twelve to fifteen, twenty seven points, twenty four rebounds,

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Speaker 2: nine of those were offensive, and two blocks. So that

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Speaker 2: basically went back to other reporter was asking JJ Reddick

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Speaker 2: prior to Game five. I'm not saying these media people

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01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 2: in LA are brutal, but at least they're not afraid

1365
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: to ask the big questions and what are the reporters said.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who it was, but this is what

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Speaker 2: he said. Quote, as you watch the film, what do

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Speaker 2: you recall about your thought process in the moment sticking

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01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: with the five in the fourth quarter the other day?

1370
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Speaker 2: And is there an assistant of someone that you can

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Speaker 2: maybe lean on tonight to try to get other players

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Speaker 2: involved tonight going into the fifth game, and Reddick comes

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Speaker 2: back and saying, are you saying that because I'm inexperienced,

1374
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 2: that I was an inexperienced decision that I made. Do

1375
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 2: you think I don't talk to my assistance about substitutions

1376
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Speaker 2: every single time out? I mean, right away, Reddick's under defensive,

1377
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Speaker 2: and you know what he did. He started, He went

1378
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Speaker 2: with that small team. You can't go to a small

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Speaker 2: team against those twin towers in Minnesota. You can't do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I understand why he got mad, though, because the

1381
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 3: dude painted the picture like he didn't know or that

1382
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 3: he didn't talk, and he did a kind of insinuate

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Speaker 3: that JJ was inexperienced and he was kind of doing it,

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Speaker 3: and those are inexperienced mistakes, right or wrong. I mean,

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Speaker 3: JJ snap because look, he's sensitive to that. He also

1386
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 3: is a fierce competitor and everyone has been on him

1387
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 3: in the entire year because people felt like he got

1388
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 3: the job unfairly, he didn't do the right of passage.

1389
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Speaker 3: He kissed the ring like he and Lebron were tired.

1390
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 3: When we're doing a podcast, and now JJ Reddick is

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Speaker 3: coaching Lebron and Bronni all of those things. But he'll

1392
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 3: learn that he can't fight the power depend But he

1393
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 3: also should go back and forth, should engage in banter

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01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,439
Speaker 3: when people challenge him and say little Snyde remarks about

1395
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 3: his coaching, that's okay. It's okay to be confrontational. You know,

1396
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 3: it's just a matter of like backing it up when

1397
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 3: you do have those conflicts.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the term clicks earlier today. I basically sometimes

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01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 2: I think reporters, media people, and I've been there too.

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Speaker 2: I've been there, done that, you know, clicks a response controversy.

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01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this reporter did it intentionally. I think

1402
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 2: it was a normal question to ask, But really, JJ

1403
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 2: Reddick could have just said, we're going to go back

1404
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 2: look at the film and see what we could do

1405
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 2: and make adjustments. That's allly how to say. He took

1406
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 2: a real personal and maybe he should have because I

1407
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 2: think in his mind he knew that he screwed up.

1408
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 2: You know, they lost that game, not because Minnesota had

1409
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: a lot better talent and they did because he didn't

1410
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 2: match up correctly. That's why they basically lost, and they

1411
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 2: couldn't hit a shot. They couldn't hit a shot. They

1412
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Speaker 2: couldn't they couldn't have. No, if Minnesota was better from

1413
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 2: the field shooting, they would have won by forty.

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Speaker 3: Really yeah, I mean, like, look, if they take care

1415
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 3: of business they do, it shouldn't be a close game.

1416
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Speaker 3: But if you're the Lakers, you're sitting there and you're

1417
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Speaker 3: looking like, man, we're right there. We just got to

1418
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 3: finish the game. They didn't have They didn't take advantage

1419
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 3: of the opportunities, and really it came down to the

1420
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Speaker 3: fourth quarter. Part of the reason why they talked about

1421
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 3: championship shape and conditioning is because in the fourth quarter

1422
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 3: the Lakers faltered. It was a ridiculous number of points

1423
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 3: that timber was put up, but it was a significant margin.

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01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 3: They won by forty plus and fourth quarter production. Yeah,

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01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 3: I mean, that's how it is. You don't win, you're

1426
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 3: not set up for success in the fourth court. You

1427
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 3: don't have a hard time winning in the playoffs, especially

1428
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 3: with the playoffs returning to the competitive, physical, grinded out

1429
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 3: affair that has become.

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Speaker 2: I would say this Anthony Edwards or the Minnesota Timberwolves,

1431
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 2: was the best player on the floor for most of

1432
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 2: that series, even though Luca and Lebron were on the

1433
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,839
Speaker 2: court at the same time, I would still say Anthony

1434
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,759
Speaker 2: Edwards was the best player on the floor.

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Speaker 3: Agreed, Yeah, I would agree, and Man dominated. And what

1436
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 3: I love from ant Man is he's unapologetically competitive. We

1437
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 3: saw last year he just missed Joker and KD and

1438
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 3: talked to him the whole time. Same thing about depends

1439
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 3: like that. I mean, that's who he is, That's who

1440
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 3: he's always been. He's a fierce and dog competitor.

1441
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 2: No doubt about that. Now, the next question, we talked

1442
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: about JJ Reddick, We talked about the team that that

1443
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: Minnesota basically was just a better team. What about Lebron?

1444
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 2: I mean, they asked him. He said he hasn't made

1445
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 2: a decision yet in his future. You know, why should

1446
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: he retire? You know, I thought Lebron played well. You know,

1447
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 2: obviously he can't play, you know, forty eight minutes as

1448
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 2: he did before. The guy's forty forty one years old

1449
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: next year. But he did rest a little bit on defense,

1450
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 2: and he's not moving as much as he used to

1451
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 2: move on offense. But he's still giving you points and

1452
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: he's there when you need him. But you know, moving

1453
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 2: forward for a future. He's not the guy you build around.

1454
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1455
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough. I mean, I think there's enough, there

1456
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 3: are enough qualities where you certainly want to build around him,

1457
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 3: but you want to see more consistency and all those

1458
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 3: things and all actions. It'd be interesting to see how

1459
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 3: they elected do it, because Lebron going out like all

1460
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 3: this stuff like how what that first domino to drop

1461
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 3: kind of sets up how you handle the other dominoes

1462
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 3: and you know, Polinka, those guys have hoped that decisions

1463
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 3: are made.

1464
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 2: Quickly, just no doubt. Now, there was a story that

1465
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: came out I think late yesterday afternoon that said he

1466
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 2: would not come back with a pay cut. All right,

1467
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 2: I'll blame him. I mean, really and truly, I mean

1468
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 2: and honestly, I think that he's going to draw the

1469
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: crowds because people in various cities will be thinking, this

1470
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 2: may very well be the last time I could see

1471
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 2: him play. I mean, when he comes to Indianapolis next year,

1472
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 2: I want to go because it may be the very

1473
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 2: last time I see Lebron playing person.

1474
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 3: It's a fairwell tour, I understand that. And you're right,

1475
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 3: we'll see if he gives us one. I think he

1476
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 3: will because that option, that player option is fifty four

1477
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 3: million dollars. No one wants to walk away from fifty

1478
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 3: million dollars, No I did.

1479
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 2: I don't think that. You know, I understand Laker fans

1480
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,759
Speaker 2: are upset. I understand that the Lakers as a whole,

1481
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,839
Speaker 2: the team's play upset. But honestly, going into the series,

1482
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 2: don't you think that even JJ Reddick knew was going

1483
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 2: to be a a tough matchup and be there more

1484
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 2: than we are. You know, Luca doesn't play defense, Lebron's old,

1485
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 2: and they got two big guys, and Rudy Gobert played crazy,

1486
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 2: played out of his mind. All right, I just it

1487
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 2: was just the cards weren't there. Minnesota is a better team.

1488
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: They are, They really are. You know the fact that

1489
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 2: no one really follows or knows much about the Minnesota

1490
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 2: Timberwolves if you live out of Minnesota. But they're not

1491
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 2: a bad team. They're really not not.

1492
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 3: I mean they're not. And look, this is a team

1493
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 3: that had the trade. The trade impacted them. Karl Anthony

1494
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 3: Town's going to the Knicks come bringing back Julius Randall

1495
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 3: and Dante DiVincenzo. It took a while for them to

1496
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 3: find their stride, but those guys have been critical to

1497
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,799
Speaker 3: their success. I mean, both guys have played big roles.

1498
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 3: And it's one of the things that I would say

1499
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 3: about the Timberwolves. They're a rougher, tougher team now and

1500
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 3: last year's team couldn't handle the physicality and toughness that

1501
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 3: this year's team is said they endure.

1502
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 2: Let me talk a little bit about coaching. We talked

1503
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 2: about JJ reddick is lack of say, lack preparation for

1504
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 2: lack of matchup and maybe the other players to match up. Okay,

1505
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: I think coaching probably means more in the NBA than

1506
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 2: in the National Football League, Am I correct? I mean

1507
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 2: it's all about personnel, I think, and it's such a

1508
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 2: breakdown in the National Football League because you have various

1509
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 2: coaches in various positions. In the NBA, what I saw

1510
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: happen this year with the Detroit Pistons to turn around,

1511
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 2: you know, we're just the coaching change from you know,

1512
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 2: winning fourteen games a year ago and going taking the

1513
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 2: Knicks almost to the limit, and they got robbed obviously

1514
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 2: last week they got robbed and had no foul call

1515
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 2: at the end. Of the game, although I still think

1516
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 2: the Knicks are a better team. They did get robbed,

1517
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 2: but they played them tough and they are a tough team.

1518
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 2: I think coaching means so much more in the NBA

1519
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 2: than it doesn't.

1520
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 3: Football coaching doesn't matter. I think it matters at every level.

1521
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 3: I think the best coaches have a way of putting

1522
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 3: their impact on the game without anyone even really knowing that.

1523
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 3: They don't talk about Oh look, just played it, I've done,

1524
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 3: But it's the way they empower their players to play

1525
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 3: fast and to play free and to be aggressive between

1526
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 3: the lines. Sometimes there's through tactics. Sometimes there's just through

1527
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 3: a level of trust where you unempowered them and unlocked

1528
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 3: them saying, hey, man, go get it. You see ball,

1529
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 3: get ball, go make it happen. And JJ Reddick made

1530
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 3: the Lakers much better, their improved offensive team. He did

1531
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 3: a really good job of getting them to play at

1532
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 3: a high level in his first year. Now, there were

1533
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 3: some mistakes that were made in the playoffs. Personally, they

1534
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 3: ran into a bad matchup, and that happens because the

1535
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 3: playoffs are all about matchups in the NBA. He'll learn

1536
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 3: from it, he'll grow from it. But he has to

1537
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 3: stewing it for a little bit, and that's what he's doing.

1538
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 3: But that that disappointment is going to ignite an obsession

1539
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 3: where he's gonna spend the offseason trying to figure out

1540
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 3: how he can get better, how he can get a

1541
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 3: team better.

1542
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 2: No doubt about that. All right, We're gonna try to

1543
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 2: get better as well. He's Bucky Brooks, I Meany Furman

1544
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 2: will Fox Sports Sonny of Fox Butt's Radio thumbs up

1545
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 2: or thumbs down. How it's Yane on ay and it's

1546
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 2: all yours next. All right, it's yay on a time

1547
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Sunny's bucket. Brooks and Andy

1548
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 2: Firman w for the Fox Sports Radio studios. And of

1549
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: course it's about maybe eleven minutes before at the top

1550
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: of the album, it's time for our guy Patty for

1551
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 2: yay rnay.

1552
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: Okay, let's figure rack those brains, gentlemen. These stories need

1553
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 1: an answer.

1554
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 3: I think we need a ruling on this.

1555
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: It's yay ornee. All right, guys, it is time for

1556
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 1: a new day.

1557
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 3: Here.

1558
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: Do you play yay or nay?

1559
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 6: And I'm your host Patay on this wonderful day everybody.

1560
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 6: All right, Hey, alright, I'm done with the puns and

1561
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 6: the rhymes here. So guys, so what I got for

1562
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 6: us here today? Let's go the first one here. So,

1563
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 6: the Professional Women's Hockey League has officially named Seattle the

1564
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 6: eighth team to be added to the league, set to

1565
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 6: begin in the twenty twenty five slash twenty sixth season

1566
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 6: at Climate Pledge Arena yay or nay and Dee Furman nay.

1567
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: Who cares?

1568
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 2: Who cares about women's hockey? Really? I was gonna say suddenly,

1569
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 2: but I got myself in trouble. But you know, women

1570
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: playing hockey. It's just I can't get into that. Soccer, yes,

1571
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 2: track of field, Yes, swimming is hockey, even football, I could,

1572
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 2: I could hear it, but I can't hitle hockey. I say, no,

1573
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 2: forget it.

1574
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 3: No, nay, yeah no. When I when I think about

1575
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 3: all of these things like it's a lot, I can't

1576
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 3: handle it. I can't go. I'm with you on it.

1577
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 3: I agree, I can't do it.

1578
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you Mark for the for this fun sounds

1579
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 6: all right, Well we're gonna we're gonna go out of

1580
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 6: hockey here, guys, We're gonna go to something else. So

1581
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 6: ex Panthers star Steve Smith was sued for a legend

1582
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 6: affair with the Ravens marching band member under a home

1583
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 6: wreckerd law also known as alienation of affection law, which

1584
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 6: allows a spouse to sue a third party for destroying

1585
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 6: a marriage.

1586
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeay or nay, Bucky Brooks, Yeah, it's interesting.

1587
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 3: Being from North Carolina, I am not surprised they have things.

1588
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 3: There are certain acts that are illegal, so I'm surprised

1589
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 3: it came to light about Steve Smith, but not surprised

1590
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 3: about it being on the books. In terms of that

1591
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 3: being a law, it's the Bible belt.

1592
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 2: Huh. You know what I'm gonna say, nay. And let

1593
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 2: me tell you why I say nay on this. I

1594
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 2: think that some guy of the husband of the alleged woman,

1595
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 2: they're looking for money. If it wasn't Steve Smith, they

1596
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't do it at all. But they think of Steve

1597
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 2: Smith's got a little change, he got some cachet, he's

1598
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 2: got some pr he's got money. They're gonna go after

1599
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 2: his money, go after his wallet. That's why I say nay,

1600
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 2: get or leave him alone. Leave Steve Smith alone. And

1601
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 2: Steve honestly a band member of marching. Come on, really,

1602
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 2: what if she played at trombone? Come on, Steve really.

1603
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 3: Fair point?

1604
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 6: Well, speaking of nay, but more if horse say nay,

1605
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 6: the Ky Derby is bigger than the NFL Pro Bowl.

1606
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah your nay, Andy Furman.

1607
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I say it is. It's bigger than the Pro Bowl.

1608
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 2: Yes it is. I agree, it is big. One hundred

1609
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 2: and forty seven thousand in the rain and the mud yesterday,

1610
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 2: it's big. It's a big event.

1611
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 1: The Pro Bowl.

1612
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 2: At one time it was maybe they would have got

1613
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 2: back to Hawaii and actually played football.

1614
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 3: This is me.

1615
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you, buggy to you, it's you.

1616
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's it's fine. I completely blond. The

1617
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:23,759
Speaker 3: question my bad. Repeat to me. I got just repeat,

1618
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 3: dis repeat the question is.

1619
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: The Kentucky Derby? Is it bigger than the NFL Pro Bowl? Bucky?

1620
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes, it's a bigger deal. Like

1621
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 3: nobody cares about the All Stars thing. It's a big deal.

1622
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 3: That's why everyone is there. That's why I see anyone

1623
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 3: a dressed to the Knights.

1624
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: I agree. Well.

1625
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 6: Speaking of the NFL, though, guys, so NFL is removing

1626
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 6: home game home games for trips to Mexico Spain and England.

1627
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: Yay or nay, Bucky Brooks.

1628
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 3: They're removing home games to those things. Uh yeah, that's fine,

1629
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 3: Like it should go somewhere else, Like there's some other

1630
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 3: international locations that they want to go to. They're gonna

1631
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 3: tap into it. So I'm sure we'll see Dublin and

1632
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 3: some of these other cities and countries have opportunity to

1633
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 3: host a game.

1634
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 2: Nay, nay. Because if I'm a SE's a ticket holder,

1635
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 2: I lose a home game, I don't want to look

1636
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 2: let him go. But the steward of my team, don't

1637
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 2: do it to my team. Okay, because now there's the

1638
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 2: schedule's coming out and about two weeks stopping really really

1639
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 2: stopping it. Discus on two weeks. It's a good chance

1640
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals are going to Spain. You know what,

1641
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 2: I'm happy for them. The players will see Spain. But

1642
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 2: you know what, Flama season ticket holder, I am p owed.

1643
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:31,759
Speaker 2: I don't want to miss a home.

1644
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 6: Game personally, Dublin, Ireland would be fun. Let's go Irish

1645
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 6: where my Irish people at. Let's go But you Dame

1646
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 6: have fair point. So last one, guys, Bill Belichick was

1647
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 6: totally in line to control the CBS Sunday Morning interviews

1648
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 6: that were supposed to highlight his new book.

1649
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah your nay, final, Yeah your nay? Andy?

1650
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, yay. The interview is about his book,

1651
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 2: not about his alleged girlfriend. Really, leave him alone, let

1652
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 2: him enjoy his life. They should have talked about his shirt.

1653
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 2: Did Navy hold the hole in the Navy sweatshirt that

1654
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 2: I was bigger than his girlfriend?

1655
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:05,679
Speaker 6: Really?

1656
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 2: What was he wearing that North Carolina shore?

1657
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 3: He's fine, let's go. Yay, yeah, yeay, yay. Here we go.

1658
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 2: By the way, there's some big holes left that I'm

1659
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 2: more aware on Fox Sports Sunday next right there, you know,

1660
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 2: there's at least five holes that remain. They really are,

1661
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 2: and we're gonna get to that in just about a minute.

1662
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 2: Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox

1663
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,799
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1664
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 2: Ow Many Firman. He's my guy, he's my partner, He's

1665
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. And away we go, and there's so much

1666
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 2: to do, it's little time to do it in. But

1667
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you a story about my wife. Are

1668
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 2: you interested about that? For a second? Buck I gotta

1669
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 2: tell you what happens to it. In front of my house.

1670
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 2: I have the in front of my front door. We

1671
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 2: have these two lights that hang up on the on

1672
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 2: the outside of the house. And I was looking at

1673
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 2: there the other day. It was last night, and the

1674
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 2: lights were on, and there's like a shadow on one

1675
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 2: of the lights. I say, is it flickering? Is it

1676
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 2: going to be burnt out? So I take a look inside.

1677
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 2: Believe it or not, there's a nest and a bird

1678
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 2: inside there. How when the hell it got in there

1679
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 2: is beyond me. I have no idea, but there's a

1680
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 2: bird in there with a nest. So I told my wife,

1681
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 2: how do I get it out? She says, what do

1682
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 2: you mean? Get it out? Let him give birth and

1683
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 2: let him enjoy his life. That's my wife. I'm an animal,

1684
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 2: I'm a pig, and I wanted the thing to get

1685
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 2: out of there. And she says, no, let them live there,

1686
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 2: let them have their baby. How's that there's a difference.

1687
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 2: I mean, so opposites do it trapped? You know I am.

1688
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 2: I'm heartless, I really am. And she's just a loving person.

1689
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 2: That's the way it is, you know. I don't know,

1690
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 2: maybe it's maybe it's that way most marriages.

1691
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. Well, good, it balances it out everything there,

1692
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 3: it goes like.

1693
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 2: You and me, we balance out right. You're a gentleman

1694
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 2: and I'm like a little unfinished, you know, around the edges,

1695
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 2: a little rough, a little rough. That's right, all right,

1696
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 2: we'll talk about the NFL draft. Let's do that because

1697
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 2: there's some questions that still remain. I'm not big on

1698
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 2: the grading because, as you say, and you've taught me

1699
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 2: so much, that it's down the road. I mean, how

1700
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 2: they do down the road a year or two, we'll

1701
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 2: see what happens. But there are some teams I think

1702
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 2: that basically still have some holes remaining because they didn't

1703
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 2: get what they needed. Do we agree on that? I mean,

1704
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 2: what about Jacksonville. You're heavily involved with the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1705
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 2: Are they happy with what they've done or does the

1706
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 2: process still continue? Are they still looking? I know there's

1707
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 2: a couple of free agents still out there that they

1708
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 2: still say, look, we need to fill this void. Is

1709
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 2: that what they do.

1710
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,719
Speaker 3: Now? They keep looking? You continue to try and build

1711
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 3: out the roster. You never satisfied, so you continue to

1712
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 3: try and find the right guys for your team. You

1713
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 3: want to make a very competitive environment. And when it's

1714
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 3: all said and done, if you have a bunch of

1715
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 3: guys that are competing, your team is going to operate

1716
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 3: at his best. So yeah, I think you always it

1717
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 3: never stops right.

1718
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 2: And the problem with the National Football League maybe with

1719
01:22:56,600 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 2: sports in general, is that everybody thinks if they know

1720
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 2: better than the people who run the teams, and to

1721
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 2: some extent that people in our business beyond the microphone

1722
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 2: are the same way. You know, if they were that smart,

1723
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 2: they'd be personnel people with National Football League teams. However,

1724
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 2: you know, you don't have to be a genius to

1725
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 2: figure out a couple of things that a couple of

1726
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,719
Speaker 2: teams needed and why they didn't go in that direction.

1727
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 2: For example, I'm looking at the Dallas Cowboys. I thought

1728
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:26,799
Speaker 2: that perhaps they would want to draft a wide receiver

1729
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 2: as a number two target to take a lot of

1730
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 2: the heat of C. D.

1731
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 3: Lamb.

1732
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong. You know, Look, the first draft I'm

1733
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 2: involved in will be my very first draft the next one,

1734
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 2: you know, so I don't get involved heavily, but you know,

1735
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 2: you look at rosters and you see what could help

1736
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 2: a team. I think that CD Lamb has a lot

1737
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 2: of pressure on him. He's double team. If they could

1738
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 2: have drafted a number two target, that would have been

1739
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 2: the way to go, and they didn't do it.

1740
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 3: See, I disagree because I think, like for Dallas, you

1741
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 3: haven't understand the blueprint that's always worked for you. They've

1742
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 3: always been at their best, not when they've had multiple

1743
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 3: wide receivers, but when they've had a dominant offensive line.

1744
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 3: And so they get Tyler Book in the first round,

1745
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 3: and he gives them a chance to be dominant at

1746
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 3: the point of attack. And if they can dominate at

1747
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 3: the point of attack, they can run the football and

1748
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott to have enough time to throw off play action.

1749
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,759
Speaker 3: Having another wide receiver would be nice, but it wouldn't

1750
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 3: ensure that they're gonna be able to run the ball

1751
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 3: to control the game against their opponents. And let's be honest,

1752
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 3: the teams that are the top teams in their division

1753
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 3: to fill their For Eagles, it's all about the line

1754
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 3: of scrimmage. You got to be able to win in

1755
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage.

1756
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 2: All right. So now now I'm learning. See I love

1757
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 2: this because you know I was going in one direction.

1758
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,799
Speaker 2: You see, you know, you tell me the other direction,

1759
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 2: and you're right, You're exactly right. And the Philadelphia Eagles,

1760
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 2: if they're the on the planning board and they're the master,

1761
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 2: and people want to follow what they do, you know,

1762
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 2: do it their way. Big offensive lineman six eight, three

1763
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 2: hundred plus pounds, that's what you got to do. That's

1764
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,679
Speaker 2: why everybody was against the Tush push because they can't

1765
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: defend it. That's why that's Look at the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1766
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 2: I think that one of the problems I thought they

1767
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 2: were going to do is fill devoided quarterback. You know,

1768
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 2: they did draft Will Howard I think was in the

1769
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 2: sixth round. But honestly, I think maybe, and maybe I'm wrong,

1770
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 2: I think they're waiting for Aaron Rodgers. I really believe that.

1771
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 2: I can't believe Mike Tomlin is going to have Aaron

1772
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 2: Rodgers in his locker room. But we'll see what happens.

1773
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 2: I mean, we haven't heard much of the list forty

1774
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 2: eight to seventy two hours, But do you honestly think

1775
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 2: that Aaron Rodgers is going to have a Pittsburgh steel

1776
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 2: A uniform on?

1777
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems that way. It seems like they're just

1778
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 3: holding off, waiting for him to come. I'm curious to

1779
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 3: see what this looks like, how this plays out, just because, look,

1780
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 3: he didn't play well, and I know we give him

1781
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 3: the ultimate pass all the time. He didn't play well,

1782
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 3: So maybe he can dust it off. Maybe Pittsburgh, a

1783
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 3: change of location, change of scenery will help him kind

1784
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 3: of get back to playing at a high level. But

1785
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 3: he didn't play well. He's older, and he doesn't appear

1786
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 3: to like getting hit and those things. When you begin

1787
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 3: to lose that look, it typically doesn't come back.

1788
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 2: However, you know, we've always heard that coming off the

1789
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 2: injury that he had, usually you're better off and you're

1790
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: more healthier that second year after the injury, which would

1791
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 2: be this coming season, because last year was the first

1792
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:10,719
Speaker 2: year after that big injury.

1793
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 3: So maybe yeah, yeah, But you know, he didn't play

1794
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 3: well his last year in Green Bay. So now we've

1795
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 3: had what three years where he hasn't been like the

1796
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 3: Green Bay year the injury, than this has been three

1797
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 3: years since we've seen him play at a high level,

1798
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 3: and he's forty plus. Typically it doesn't turn back around

1799
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 3: once it at all.

1800
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 2: But the good news is at least for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1801
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 2: They need a guy to get the ball to one

1802
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,600
Speaker 2: of their new weapons, which is DK Metcalf, and I

1803
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 2: don't think right now they have a qualified quarterback to

1804
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 2: get in the ball.

1805
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 3: No, and that's problematic. I would say this, that's problematic

1806
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 3: when you don't have someone to throw the ball to.

1807
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 3: Quarterback is the most important position on the field. They

1808
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 3: still have a huge question mark going into May turn

1809
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 3: who's the quarterback and how good the quarterback will be?

1810
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So the next question would be if Aaron Rodgers

1811
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: and the Pittsburgh Steelers don't come to terms, is there

1812
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 2: a possibility if he's released, can they get Kirk Cousins

1813
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 2: from the Atlanta Falcons.

1814
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 3: I mean, he's another one. He didn't play great last year.

1815
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 3: He had sixteen interceptions. Like the league, I mean we're waxing.

1816
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 3: I mean we're caught up in nostalgia when we talk

1817
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 3: about some of these older quarterbacks. You're not supposed to

1818
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 3: play the ball in your forties, and guys have done

1819
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 3: it because everyone is trying to follow the TV twelve method.

1820
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 3: But most guys aren't very good when they're forty plus.

1821
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 3: They're older, they're brittle, They don't want to get hit,

1822
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 3: and that's gonna be a problem.

1823
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to bring that point up right now.

1824
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I think if you keep yourself in decent

1825
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 2: shape year round, if you've got some good genes, you

1826
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 2: can play late thirties, early forties. And this is not

1827
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 2: so something new, that Tom Brady situation. Once again, I've

1828
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 2: always said that people who talk sports and follow sports

1829
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 2: look back at history. You know, they talk about Lebron

1830
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 2: James being tremendous, theck appearing it to Michael Jordan. You know,

1831
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 2: forget about that. It's Will Chamberlain. He's the guy. He

1832
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 2: was the most dominating guy in basketball period and the story.

1833
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 2: But people don't go back and they don't look at

1834
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,640
Speaker 2: their history. They don't follow sports. I'm going back on

1835
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 2: football right now. I remember when and look, maybe I'm

1836
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 2: showing my age, but I'm a student of the game.

1837
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 2: I didn't play it, but I like to follow with

1838
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 2: Babe perilli Ya till quught it back in his forties. Okay,

1839
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 2: you know, were they as good as the guys today.

1840
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 2: Probably not, But they played when they were in their forties,

1841
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 2: and believe me, the equipment wasn't as good the training

1842
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 2: wasn't as good. Things were different back then, and they

1843
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 2: played less games. They played twelve to fourteen game schedules.

1844
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 2: I get it, okay, but they were in their forties.

1845
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,640
Speaker 2: Ya Till and Bay Perilli come to mind, two of

1846
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 2: those guys. I don't know how old Johnny United was

1847
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 2: when he played at the end, but he was. He

1848
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 2: was no kid either.

1849
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:57,679
Speaker 3: No, I mean didn't I but I mean the game

1850
01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 3: is game is different. Yeah, they were calling their own players,

1851
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 3: been doing all this other stuff, but it's different. Like

1852
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,799
Speaker 3: what we're asking guys to do now is we're asking

1853
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 3: them to run the entire show, like make it, make

1854
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 3: it happen, do the stuff, throw it, deal with like

1855
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 3: the superheroes that are coming at them, and most aren't

1856
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 3: physically able to withstand it. Tom Brady was different because

1857
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:22,639
Speaker 3: he was willing to stand in the fire and continue

1858
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 3: to deliver. We've already seen Tom Brady is not trying

1859
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 3: to deal with the smoke. And so if he's not

1860
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 3: gonna deal with the smoke and stand in there and

1861
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 3: bail out the pocket too soon, it's gonna be a problem.

1862
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 3: It looks it's an issue, all right.

1863
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 2: I'm moving now to my Cincinnati Bengals, they kind of

1864
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 2: could have used a defensive tackle. However, in round one

1865
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 2: they picked their Shamar Stewart, the edge rushing from Texas

1866
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 2: A and in which I thought that, A, he's a

1867
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 2: project and he may very well be what they need.

1868
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 2: But B I think they got him to show Trey Hendrickson,

1869
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 2: you know what, you want more money, you gotta contract

1870
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 2: you signed. We're not going to give you any more

1871
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,639
Speaker 2: money because we've a guy that can replace you. Maybe

1872
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, but I think that's why they drafted him.

1873
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on that.

1874
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 3: You said they drafted Who's said the drafted.

1875
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 2: They drafted A Steward Chamar Stewart from Texas A and

1876
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 2: m U.

1877
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 3: I mean, so when you when you take Shamar Stewart,

1878
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 3: who is a freak athlete who has all the tools

1879
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 3: in those things you're hoping that he can develop, but

1880
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:27,839
Speaker 3: he he simply hasn't produced to his talent would suggest

1881
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 3: I think he four and a half sacks three years.

1882
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 3: I mean for you, like, just not a lot of

1883
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 3: sacked production for someone that you counted on. Now, we've

1884
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 3: seen it happen on occasion, but it's rare that it

1885
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 3: happens can can they develop him, can they make him

1886
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 3: be something that he wasn't in college? I don't know.

1887
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 3: That's a huge gamble. Typically you try not to take

1888
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 3: projections in the first round, but they're willing to bank

1889
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 3: on his tools, that his tools and his talent will

1890
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 3: lead to the kind of production that they want. I

1891
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,640
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, he's a good player. I think

1892
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:03,639
Speaker 3: you have to understand what you're getting. You're not getting

1893
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 3: a proven sack producer. He can't replace Trey Henderson. He

1894
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 3: has to play alongside Tray Hedrickson, right.

1895
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 2: But I could have drafted Derek Harmon the conut of

1896
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 2: Michigan State and he's a defensive tackle, and he went,

1897
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 2: I believe to the Pittsburgh Steelers and you know, the

1898
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 2: guy in the same division, So they bypassed Derek Harman.

1899
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:24,599
Speaker 2: I think that would have been the pick that they

1900
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 2: could have had as a defensive tackle. Was they didn't

1901
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 2: go in that direction, that's their choice. I mean, I'd

1902
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 2: like to sit down and talk to Duke Tobin, the

1903
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 2: guy who makes the draft picks for the Cincinnati Bengals,

1904
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:38,600
Speaker 2: and basically ask him. I don't really need to go

1905
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 2: public with that, just for my own curiosity. Why did

1906
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 2: you bypass Derek Harmon for a guy who's basically i'd

1907
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 2: have to say a project really and there was a

1908
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 2: need asif tackle.

1909
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean different spots. But I mean, I

1910
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 3: want to say, in the last couple of years they've

1911
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 3: tried to take a few different dtackles. Defensive end was

1912
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 3: a real pressing need, Sam Hubbard retired. You're looking at

1913
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 3: the sack production with and without potentially Trey Hendrickson. You

1914
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 3: want to see if you can find someone that could

1915
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 3: get after it on the edges. And they feel like

1916
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 3: even though he didn't have sack production, they felt like

1917
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 3: his high number of pressures would be enough to impact

1918
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 3: the game in the trenches. We'll see Thomas Hill.

1919
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 2: No, I agree with you, right yeah, And look that team, honestly,

1920
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 2: as you mentioned many times, they're built on offense. You know,

1921
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 2: they're built on Joe Burrow. That that's what they're gonna win.

1922
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 2: They're gonna win by scoring points and probably more points

1923
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 2: in the opposition. That's what they're hoping to do, you know,

1924
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 2: I mean, they put everything on the offensive side of

1925
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,640
Speaker 2: the ball. They signed those two big receivers, you know,

1926
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 2: and I didn't think they would, you know, and they

1927
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 2: did so well. You know, Jamar Chase is signed up

1928
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 2: and he's happy right now, and everybody's happy. Te Higgins

1929
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 2: is signed up. They spent a lot of money on

1930
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 2: those guys on the offensive side of the football, so

1931
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. Little are the Washington Commanders. They

1932
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 2: could have used an edge rusher, they really could have,

1933
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 2: and they got They got a left tackle, they got

1934
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 2: Lure of Me Tunsel, they got Peopo Samuel. So obviously

1935
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,600
Speaker 2: they got some receivers for Jayden Dennis right now. But

1936
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 2: again they got to worry about the defensive side of

1937
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 2: the ball, and they could have used that their drusher,

1938
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 2: which they didn't go for.

1939
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 3: Well, as a lot of it depends on who's available

1940
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 3: at the time that you're picking. They're picking at the

1941
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 3: bottom of the rounds, and by the time they got

1942
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 3: to it, there weren't any established guys or guys that

1943
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 3: were necessarily the right fits for them at that pick.

1944
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 3: And even though you would love to kind of go

1945
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 3: through and check off your grocery list and say, oh,

1946
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 3: we checked off all the things that we don't have

1947
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 3: in the pantry, sometimes it doesn't match up. And sometimes

1948
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 3: that's not only due to you being on the clock,

1949
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 3: but the player that you won't there. But sometimes the

1950
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 3: draft doesn't necessarily yield what you're looking for. For the Commanders, Look,

1951
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 3: they beefed up in the offseason. They've tried to find

1952
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 3: a way to help Jayden Daniels. Whether it's the you know,

1953
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 3: the playmakers that they added on the outside, whether it's

1954
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 3: some of the people that they can put in the backfield.

1955
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 3: They're trying to do everything in their power to make

1956
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 3: sure that his sophomore season, his second year, he's able

1957
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 3: to build upon what really he did his first year

1958
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 3: when he took the lead by storm right.

1959
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 2: And three of the five picks that they've had were

1960
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 2: on the offensive side of the ball. The first pick

1961
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 2: was in round one, an offensive tackle at Oregon, Josh

1962
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 2: Connelly Jr. In round four they picked Jalen Lane, a

1963
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 2: wide receiver out of Virginia. And in round seven they

1964
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 2: pick a Jaggery Krosky merrit running back.

1965
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 3: Yeah he was at the East Wood, Yeah he was

1966
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 3: the East West game might have been the East West MVP.

1967
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 3: Fast guy played out. He played early I think at

1968
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 3: New Mexico and transferred Tara Zone. Never really got a

1969
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 3: chance to show his whereas there. But he's fast, but

1970
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 3: he's selling round pick. And like we talked about Shadria

1971
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,240
Speaker 3: Sanders in the first hour, you don't count on your

1972
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 3: day three picks, your fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh rounders

1973
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 3: to be impact players. They're drafted down there because you're

1974
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 3: hoping that they can be developmental prospects that emerge in time.

1975
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 3: May he's ahead of the curve, but I would think

1976
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 3: that the commanders are going to have to get their

1977
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:08,719
Speaker 3: answers elsewhere. They don't have to get them either before

1978
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 3: training camp or at the end of training camp when

1979
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 3: people release a bunch of people and they handpick a

1980
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 3: handful of guys to come on board.

1981
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,599
Speaker 2: You know, I'll ask you this, are you better off

1982
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 2: perhaps not getting drafted whatsoever, and have your agent call

1983
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 2: various teams where you may be able to be a

1984
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 2: better fit for that team. Because if you're drafted in

1985
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 2: the fifth, sixth, seventh round, as you say, the chance

1986
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 2: you're making that ball club are fairly bleak. They really are.

1987
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,640
Speaker 2: But if you're not drafted, there's a better chance of

1988
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 2: making a club if that club.

1989
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 1: Needs what you have.

1990
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you've seen that I'm sure. So you know,

1991
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 2: it's not all doom and gloom if you're not drafted,

1992
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 2: because you can go to a team that needs your

1993
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 2: skill set rather than a team that's drafted a guy

1994
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 2: in the seventh round that probably won't make the team

1995
01:35:58,640 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1996
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's different. A lot of teams

1997
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 3: guarantee their draft picks in terms of like they're gonna

1998
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:07,759
Speaker 3: make sure that every pick player that has picked makes

1999
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 3: a squad. I'll say undrafted, it's still I mean, look

2000
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,680
Speaker 3: all those it's hard to make a roster anyway, right,

2001
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:18,719
Speaker 3: but it's super hard if you're undrafted free agent. Depending

2002
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 3: on the team, some teams don't view their free agency

2003
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:25,600
Speaker 3: as true competitive players who have a legitimate opportunity to

2004
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 3: make a team. Others will say, no, this is what

2005
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 3: we do. We give opportunities, so what you make of

2006
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 3: it can ultimately determine if you have a chance to

2007
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:41,600
Speaker 3: play practice squad or the active roster. But I mean this,

2008
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:45,560
Speaker 3: the higher pick, the more they invest in you, the

2009
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 3: more they invest in you, the more likely you can

2010
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 3: be around interesting.

2011
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 2: And the last team that I thought possibly had a

2012
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:55,640
Speaker 2: hole in their draft selection was the Miami Dolphins. I

2013
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 2: thought they could have used a cornerback all right. However,

2014
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 2: they bolsted up defense big time in their first three picks,

2015
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 2: a defensive tackle, a linebacker, and a defensive lineman. The

2016
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 2: first three picks. Grant from Michigan. Kenneth Grant was their

2017
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 2: first pick, a kid from Arizona. I have known Jonah

2018
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 2: whoever it was in the second and I think Jordan

2019
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 2: Phillips was drafted out of Maryland on their therapist. So

2020
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 2: they didn't go for a cornerback until late. It was

2021
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 2: Jason Marshall junior, the kid from Florida. So the cornerback

2022
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 2: is the guy. But I guess if you got some

2023
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,719
Speaker 2: pressure coming up front, that takes a lot of pressure

2024
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 2: off the cornerback position anyway. So that's what they did,

2025
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 2: went for players up front on the line.

2026
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:38,679
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2027
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 3: I mean, once again, you have like Jaylen Rams and

2028
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 3: these things, and I'm gonna say this haven't been in

2029
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 3: there like as much as were on the outside. Will say, hey,

2030
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 3: let's connect the dots. They need this, so they're gonna

2031
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:51,600
Speaker 3: pick this, they need this. They can pick that. A

2032
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:56,639
Speaker 3: lot of times. The pool determines who's available when you're picking.

2033
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 3: At those points, if there are no players that are

2034
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 3: available when you're picking first or second round in the

2035
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 3: round value, Well, then you can't dip below them to

2036
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 3: take it, because then it doesn't it doesn't match up.

2037
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 3: So you better serve to take a better player at

2038
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 3: another position than to settle for mediocrity at a position

2039
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 3: that you're just kind of filling out, you know, just

2040
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 3: kind of passing the time.

2041
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:22,640
Speaker 2: Well, I hear what you're saying, though, but I do

2042
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 2: believe that. And I follow this because I like the

2043
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 2: New York Football Giants beause I might grew up with

2044
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 2: that team. And I think the Giants picked up that

2045
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 2: safety Javon Holland from the Dolphins, so I think then

2046
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 2: left the Dolphins somewhat shaky at the defensive back position,

2047
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 2: be it safety at corner, so they could have used

2048
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:41,719
Speaker 2: when they didn't go in that direction.

2049
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 3: I get it.

2050
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 2: But maybe the mine was made up prior to the draft,

2051
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 2: say we're bolstering the line, that's what we want to do.

2052
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:48,679
Speaker 2: What's up front that counts?

2053
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 3: No, I mean, look, you can't make it your mind

2054
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 3: ahead of time. You just got to play the board

2055
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 3: as it is, and you can go in with every

2056
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 3: intention to say, hey, we're gonna take your X, Y

2057
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:02,560
Speaker 3: and Z. But sometimes I mean literally, sometimes it just

2058
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 3: doesn't work out like that. Sometimes you're not able to

2059
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 3: get it done like that.

2060
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 2: Well, there was a different situation entirely with the Las

2061
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders because leading up to the draft, their general

2062
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 2: manager John Spytek told the reporters that his son will

2063
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 2: be quote walking out of the family if the team

2064
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,599
Speaker 2: didn't select running back Ashton Genty, and the Raiders did

2065
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 2: and the sixth overall pick. So you know, there's a

2066
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 2: lot of science, I guess goes into the draft. But

2067
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 2: when your kid tells you that you better draft this

2068
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 2: guy otherwise we're locking you out of the family, you

2069
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 2: gotta go draft. And he was lucky that Genty was

2070
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 2: still available, and his son's ten years old and he

2071
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 2: knew that. So Ashton Genty, who everybody is now pointing

2072
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 2: and saying he's going to be the rookie of the year.

2073
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:44,640
Speaker 1: I hope he is.

2074
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 2: They needed a rusher. They were like last in the league.

2075
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 2: They averaged like something like eighty something yards a game

2076
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 2: rushing the football. He's gonna help. He's gonna help immensely

2077
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 2: with the Raiders. I hope he does.

2078
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, He is gonna help because he's gonna get Hi

2079
01:39:57,439 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 3: an identity. He's gonna give him the bill, a cow

2080
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,680
Speaker 3: back that Pete Carly always had going back to the

2081
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 3: heyday in Seattle they had Marshawn Lynch. He toted it,

2082
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 3: He set up everything. He was the kind of focal

2083
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 3: point of the offense. Well, now, Askton Jens will leaviate

2084
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,559
Speaker 3: soner pressure on Gino Smith. He'll open up some passing

2085
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 3: lanes for the guys on the outside because they he

2086
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:18,760
Speaker 3: commands so much attention and he has an opportunity to

2087
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 3: really help them stick to the ground and pound approach

2088
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 3: that's really served them well over the years, no.

2089
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:27,719
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. Right now. Now, the big question in sports,

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Speaker 2: and I want to know why it's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: And there's only one person to ask, and that's Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: Talk about numbers. Numbers on uniform. Why are they such

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Speaker 2: a big freaking deal, and how the stories are coming

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Speaker 2: out from the draftees about the numbers that they want.

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Speaker 2: Why are they people? Why are they paying big money

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Speaker 2: for numbers on their jersey?

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Speaker 3: I don't get it, because number is a huge part

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Speaker 3: of your identity as a player. For some I mean,

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01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 3: it's everything, whether it's superstition or not, you're paying homage

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Speaker 3: to somebody, there's a spurs personal connection to your number.

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Speaker 3: For instance, my number and high school and for most things.

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Speaker 3: Twenty two, well, twenty two is for my birthday one

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Speaker 3: twenty two, seventy one. My dad also wore twenty two.

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Speaker 3: My brother was born May twenty fourth, he wore twenty four.

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Speaker 3: So those numbers always meant a lot to us. But

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Speaker 3: for some players it's the same. It's just superstition. They've

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Speaker 3: had a lot of success in those numbers and they

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Speaker 3: don't want to part ways with them, so they're willing

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Speaker 3: to pay big money or give donations or trips or

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Speaker 3: whatever it takes to get the numbers that you want.

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Speaker 2: How tough was it to get number twenty two in

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Speaker 2: the pros when you went from team to team.

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Speaker 3: Look, a lot of It depends on the relationship, right,

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Speaker 3: So the equipment manager. The relationship with the equipment manager

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Speaker 3: is everything. And so if you have a good relationship

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Speaker 3: with the equipment manager, sometimes you can get the number

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Speaker 3: that you want. I couldn't get it everywhere, so I

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Speaker 3: wore the majority of places Jacksonville, Green Bay or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Had to go to thirty three in Oakland because Harvey

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Speaker 3: Williams was already twenty two. Couldn't get it in Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember why, but it just depends. It also

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Speaker 3: depends on your circumstance. I came in to most of

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Speaker 3: those places as a guy that was a bottom of

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Speaker 3: the roster guy, a fringe guy, so I didn't have

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Speaker 3: any clout or power to be able to push the

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Speaker 3: envelope when it came to what number I wanted. But

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Speaker 3: in other places, you know, if you come in as

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Speaker 3: a like top pick or marquee free agent, yeah, they

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Speaker 3: ask you and you can kind of impose your will

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01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:59,160
Speaker 3: a little bit. You can flex a little bit to

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Speaker 3: get what you want.

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Speaker 2: I would think that as a fan, and I consider

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Speaker 2: myself a fan. One of the big numbers in sports

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Speaker 2: is the number thirty two. Jimmy Brown Ward and football

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Speaker 2: Sandy Colfax Warld in baseball, and the first African American

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Speaker 2: in the New York Yankees, Elston Howard Ward in baseball too.

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Speaker 2: So I think thirty two is a big number. And

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Speaker 2: you're right, it's all about legacy. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: growing up, I can remember right now the numbers of

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Speaker 2: the New York Yankees as a kid. I read now.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember Babe Ruth. I know he was number three,

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Speaker 2: but you know I read about that he was three.

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Speaker 2: Luke Erg was four, Joe Dimagie was five. There was

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Speaker 2: a guy played third base when I was a kid,

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Speaker 2: but named of Andy Carrey. He won number six, but

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Speaker 2: then Clif Boyer number one, number six man it was seven.

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Speaker 2: Yogi Burrow was eight, Roger Merrows was nine, Tony Kubeck

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Speaker 2: was ten, I Thocot, Bobby Richardson was one, Hector Lopez

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Speaker 2: was eleven. Gil McDougal was twelve, and that's about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember the rest, but see I remember other

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Speaker 2: than that. I can't tell you numbers on the teams

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Speaker 2: right now. Oh yeah, Del Schaffner New York Football Giants

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Speaker 2: eighty five.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: But you're right, we're right about numbers. So it is

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Speaker 2: a big deal. But I think it's more of a

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01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 2: big deal for fans because they remember and they buy

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Speaker 2: the jerseys. That's what they do.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Abdul Carter was drafted by the Football Giants and he's

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Speaker 2: having a problem, all right. He wanted to wear fifty

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Speaker 2: six from the Hall of Famer Lawrence Taylor, and Lawrence says, ah, ah,

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Speaker 2: now you can't. That's my number and it's my legacy.

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Speaker 2: I understand that really. But then he wanted again number

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Speaker 2: eleven from Phil Simms, and phil Simms said, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: he'll do that. He was going to give it to

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Speaker 2: Jackson Dark, the quarterback that the Giants drafted, and then

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Speaker 2: he said, you know what. He told some of his friends,

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Speaker 2: and he told people around them, he told his family,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he changed his mind.

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Speaker 2: Carter won number eleven at Penn State. Seemed like the

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Speaker 2: idea he rore on social media would be an honor

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Speaker 2: to wear it. But then that was quite that was

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Speaker 2: stopped because when Phil Simms told the New York Daily

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Speaker 2: News about that, I think this was this Friday, and

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Speaker 2: he was outvoted by his family. His family said no,

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01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:07,760
Speaker 2: family said number eleven is going to remain retired by

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Speaker 2: the giants with you and that's it. So Carter now

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Speaker 2: is the number three pick and he's still looking for

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Speaker 2: a number. I mean, is that big of a deal

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01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:17,639
Speaker 2: make your own number? Really? Right? Why would you want

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Speaker 2: to wear someone else's number when you could have the

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Speaker 2: legacy and have your own number.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would, I would say, That's what I would

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Speaker 3: That's what I would say. I would say, make your own,

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Speaker 3: make your own number, try and find a number that

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Speaker 3: you can make. And I understand it, Like the eleven

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Speaker 3: number has become really popular, right, So at Penn State,

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Speaker 3: that number is popular starting with LeVar Arrington and then

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Speaker 3: Michael Parsons made it famous. And you look around now

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Speaker 3: there's so many guys in college that are wearing number

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Speaker 3: eleven because of Michael Parsons. Right, So we love our heroes,

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Speaker 3: We love the guys that we emulate in those things,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of times we will try to wear

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Speaker 3: their number to kind of pay hour to them. So

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Speaker 3: I understand the big deal. But he's gonna have to

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Speaker 3: find a different number, and so I don't know, like

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Speaker 3: there has to be some number they can find if

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Speaker 3: not they're gonna give my number. He has to figure

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Speaker 3: it out.

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Speaker 2: Now. Honestly, do you know numbers of various players on

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Speaker 2: teams when you were a kid growing up remembering their numbers?

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Speaker 2: Because maybe maybe I'm unusual because I knew I can't

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Speaker 2: tell you five numbers maybe on the Cincinnati Bengals. But

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Speaker 2: I just rattled off about a dozen numbers on the

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Speaker 2: New York Yankees back in the sixties and seventies, which

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Speaker 2: is nuts. But I followed them as a kid. That's

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Speaker 2: what I did. I collected the baseball cards.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's all.

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Speaker 6: I mean.

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Speaker 3: That's always a part of it. That's what I mean.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of what you do, like everybody should. I mean,

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01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:47,599
Speaker 3: you fall in love with your heroes and you kind

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Speaker 3: of try and find a way to look support them,

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Speaker 3: pay honors to them, any of those things. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's a big part of it.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: More numbers are coming back in my head right now.

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01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 2: Moose Scouring played first base for the Yankees. He was

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Speaker 2: fourteen and the major Ralph Howke was the manager. He

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Speaker 2: was number thirty five. Now, I don't know how many

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Speaker 2: of those numbers will retired, but I could still go

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Speaker 2: over the numbers with the Boston Celtics too.

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Speaker 3: I remember them. Yeah, oh no, were you a Celtics

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Speaker 3: fan or not?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I did.

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Speaker 2: You know what when I was a kid, Well, how

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Speaker 2: are you going to like.

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Speaker 3: The Yankees and the Celtics. That doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: The Celtics, I was.

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Speaker 3: Taking like the Cowboys too, Like no, I mean, like

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Speaker 3: like you like all the teams that are on TV.

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Speaker 2: Like that is like that may be the reason business

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Speaker 2: Every Sunday afternoon on ABC, Chris Shankle would do the

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Speaker 2: games at two o'clock Eastern time. It was always the

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Speaker 2: Celtics and Lakers. I think that was the reason why.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I lived in New York, I'd go to

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Speaker 2: Nick games. But you never see the Knicks, you know.

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Speaker 2: I knew Willis Street was nineteen and Dick Barnett may

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Speaker 2: he rest in PC just passed the other days to

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Speaker 2: what he was number twelve. David Bush was twenty two.

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Speaker 2: So I do remember those numbers, but it was the

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Speaker 2: Celtics pass. And I'll tell you a crazy story. Embarrassed

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Speaker 2: to tell you this, but even when I was like

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Speaker 2: in junior high school, when the Celtics came to New

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Speaker 2: York to play the Knicks. They stayed at the Paramount

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Speaker 2: Hotel on forty sixth Street in New York, and I

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Speaker 2: would take the subway up there and wait in the

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Speaker 2: lobby to see the Celtics. And at one time I

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01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 2: saw melt Counts. He was a seven footer. I talked

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Speaker 2: to him, but one of the Celtics I forgot who?

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Speaker 3: What was.

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Speaker 2: It'll come to me. He invited me up to his room.

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Speaker 2: We chatted for about an hour. I forgot who. It

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Speaker 2: was a rookie. It was unbelievable, really, And then I

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01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 2: saw Bill Russell coming down and I followed him from

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Speaker 2: forty sixth Street to Madison Square Garden. He didn't say

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Speaker 2: a word to me. He just kept on walking, but

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Speaker 2: I knew I was following him. I wanted to talk

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Speaker 2: to him. He wouldn't talk to There's the way it was.

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01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 2: You know. I was crazy. I mean, but you know what,

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01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:50,599
Speaker 2: you love sports. I knew what I wanted all my life,

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Speaker 2: I mean, and that's what I wanted to do, get

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Speaker 2: involved with sports. And those guys were like superheroes, they

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01:49:56,560 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 2: really were. It was amazing. With the I had like

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Speaker 2: a hold on you. It was crazy, I mean, was

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Speaker 2: it the same way because you were a player. I

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01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 2: didn't play, But did you have did they have a

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01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 2: hold on you too? Like you looked at these guys

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01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:12,040
Speaker 2: like they're like superhuman people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they certainly had a whole army. I mean I

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01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 3: certainly looked up to a bunch of guys like I

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01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:23,560
Speaker 3: had a bunch of heroes that I looked up to.

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Speaker 3: And it matters. I mean, I think you always wanted

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01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 3: me and inspired. And you know, our pro athletes, our

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Speaker 3: stars certainly inspire us, and so I can relate. And

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Speaker 3: I remember, even though I was a Carolina fan, I

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01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 3: was really impacted by Lambias played in that Maryland and

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01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 3: watching him and how good he was and those things.

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Speaker 3: And I think when you are so young and impressionable,

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Speaker 3: like I remember in a rec league, like trying to

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01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:55,320
Speaker 3: wear thirty four because of him, you know. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: numbers matter because we all trying to copy our heroes. Man,

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Speaker 3: we love our heroes, particularly when we're young. Like, man,

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Speaker 3: your favorite sports guy is everything?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 2: I agree. I mean I think the guy that invited

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01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:10,200
Speaker 2: me to his room was Johnny Jones. I think he

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01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:13,000
Speaker 2: played for LA State. Johnny Jones is a rookie on

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01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 2: the Celtics and they say, hey, you know you want

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01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:16,640
Speaker 2: to talk. I mean I was up in his room.

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01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:19,320
Speaker 2: He talked basketball, what his life playing. It was unbelievable,

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01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:21,719
Speaker 2: it really was. I mean, that would never happen today

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01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 2: because these guys. I don't think I believed that hotel room.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying it was a good thing,

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01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 2: but I do think there was a closer relationship maybe

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Speaker 2: between fans and players.

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Speaker 5: Then.

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Speaker 2: I mean people will say, no, it's not true because

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01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 2: of social media. Now now there's no relationship on social media.

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01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:38,680
Speaker 2: You know, it's an attack. Guy. I see what they

2328
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 2: do to Kevin Durant. They bait him, and like a fool,

2329
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:45,559
Speaker 2: he answers them. You can't you can't win. You can't win.

2330
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 2: You know what. I'll give you an example. There was

2331
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 2: a story just the other day in Cincinnati. One of

2332
01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:52,320
Speaker 2: the news anchors in Cincinnati. I'm not gonna mention her name,

2333
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 2: of our embarrass her. Some guy commented on social media

2334
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:58,600
Speaker 2: that she has ugly legs. All right. Why he did that,

2335
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe just debate. She answered him, Oh

2336
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,240
Speaker 2: my goodness. And there's been a war going on on

2337
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 2: social media, you know, defending her and some people not

2338
01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 2: defending her.

2339
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:10,880
Speaker 1: You can't you can't win.

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01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 3: I mean people, Yeah, I understand that, I get that,

2341
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:18,280
Speaker 3: but then like I also I get everything turned to

2342
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 3: the other cheek, like hey, take take the higher road

2343
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 3: or whatever. But sometimes and you just got to fire

2344
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 3: back because what has happened is because so many people

2345
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 3: take the tack that you're that you're suggesting, hey, don't

2346
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 3: fire back, like, just let them go, ignore them. The

2347
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:37,679
Speaker 3: voice and the noise becomes louder, and people don't expect

2348
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:40,559
Speaker 3: you to say anything back, so they feel like they

2349
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:44,760
Speaker 3: can say and do anything without reproach. And I'm just

2350
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 3: not of the mindset of letting people get away with

2351
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 3: being able to say anything, you know, And so if

2352
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 3: you want to clap sometimes you need to clap back.

2353
01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 3: Sometimes you need to fire back with a response. It's

2354
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 3: not ideal, it's not the most mature thing, but there

2355
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 3: is a part of me that's like, yeah, no, no, no,

2356
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 3: if you're gonna talk, then I'm gonna come right back,

2357
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 3: you know. Because people don't expect to get challenged, oh

2358
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 3: one hundred percent, like always, like yes, always, And so

2359
01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:15,640
Speaker 3: sometimes you have to challenge people because everyone now in

2360
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:19,040
Speaker 3: this age when you can hide behind the keyboard. People

2361
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 3: don't really like direct confrontation, you know, And so if

2362
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:24,599
Speaker 3: you're gonna say something, then you need to be able

2363
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 3: to handle it when someone comes back. And I'm saying

2364
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:34,240
Speaker 3: that in every way. When there are writers that criticize players,

2365
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:36,800
Speaker 3: but then they don't like it when players come back

2366
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:40,879
Speaker 3: at them. Right when there are fans who go at players,

2367
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:43,680
Speaker 3: but they don't like it when players attack them, and

2368
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:45,719
Speaker 3: then media members are jumping but like, oh, you shouldn't

2369
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 3: talk to the fan like that, Like, no, it has

2370
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 3: become open season. And because we're living in a time

2371
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:55,760
Speaker 3: where all of the respect norms are gone, where people

2372
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:59,599
Speaker 3: feel like they can say anything to anybody without having

2373
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 3: a level of respect or empathy or whatever. Like yeah, sometimes, man,

2374
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 3: sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. And so

2375
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 3: if it escalates to the point and if I have time, yeah,

2376
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:11,320
Speaker 3: I'll go right back as someone who comes at me.

2377
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 2: Good for you, Good for you, Bucky brooks Andy Furman,

2378
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports.

2379
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 3: Ready, and of.

2380
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 2: Course let it all out. We're trying to do it

2381
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 2: right now, all of it. The blame game is freaking next,

2382
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:26,080
Speaker 2: all right, the blame man right around the corner. He's

2383
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:28,479
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy ferman Wiel Fox Sports Sunday and

2384
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sport's ready and we're alive from the Fox Sports

2385
01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 2: Radio studio. Speaking of that, about twelve minutes from now,

2386
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 2: that'll be the top of the hour, nine o'clock on

2387
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 2: the East Coast. Brian No, Jeff Schwartz at Bill Krakenberger.

2388
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 2: What a trifecta that is countdown right here on Fox

2389
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 2: Sports areadio. But right now we're counting down to the

2390
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 2: playing game, Patty, let's do it. Blame alright, he's a liar. Oh,

2391
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:54,400
Speaker 2: I'm not allowed. I blame you, Andy Furman, I'm starting

2392
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 2: to first blame.

2393
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 1: I blame you. All right, Well, let's get down to it, guys.

2394
01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 1: It's time to blame some people here.

2395
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 6: So the spring football game in college is going the

2396
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:06,600
Speaker 6: way of the leather helmet and wishbone offense.

2397
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:09,800
Speaker 1: It's disappearing. Who do you blame?

2398
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 2: And Andy, Well, I kind of play the nil. I

2399
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:14,640
Speaker 2: think people are afraid of injuries. People are afraid of

2400
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 2: putting these players out there in public to public display

2401
01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 2: because that may be picked up by another school. So

2402
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 2: the NIL is killing the spring game, which I don't

2403
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:24,080
Speaker 2: think a lot of people really care, do they. I

2404
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 2: don't know. I guess in Alabama they care. Tennessee is

2405
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 2: some of the bigger marcts, a big time college football

2406
01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:32,040
Speaker 2: they care. But other than that, Ohio State. But the

2407
01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:34,879
Speaker 2: nil I think is the key why the spring football

2408
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 2: game is going away.

2409
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. I blame paranoid coaches. Coaches paranoid about everything from

2410
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:45,880
Speaker 3: injuries to players being poached. They have killed the spring game.

2411
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 3: And the spring game is something that was a big

2412
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:51,400
Speaker 3: part of driving interest fans coming on, kids being able

2413
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 3: to see their future heroes and those things. Yeah, paranoid

2414
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:55,360
Speaker 3: coaches have killed a game.

2415
01:55:56,920 --> 01:55:59,360
Speaker 2: All right, All right, Well, next time, who's trying to

2416
01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:00,480
Speaker 2: get in? Is some the door?

2417
01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 6: It's a the judge is gaveling for us, guys. Okay, sorry,

2418
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 6: they're they're decreeing your blames. Anyways, Next up, why has

2419
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 6: the English Football Association bands transgender women from the women's game?

2420
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 1: Who do you blame? Bucky Brooks?

2421
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 3: I would say politics have kind of uh crept into

2422
01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 3: all of it. And so where we have the trans thing,

2423
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 3: which has become a big deal, it has become a

2424
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:29,320
Speaker 3: hot budded topic when it comes to sports and so's

2425
01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:32,800
Speaker 3: it's that. I would say the political environment has created

2426
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 3: a situation where trans are left out of women's sports,

2427
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 3: and right, I wrong.

2428
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:40,240
Speaker 2: I will tell you this much. I don't blame anybody.

2429
01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:42,080
Speaker 2: I think they should be banned. I mean, come on,

2430
01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 2: I don't want to have a guy with a beard

2431
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:46,520
Speaker 2: playing with the women. Okay, I'm just thinking, all right,

2432
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:49,400
Speaker 2: I mean halftime, he said, excuse me, I got a shave.

2433
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:53,160
Speaker 2: Really No, I mean women, women play with women, men

2434
01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 2: play with men. That's it. This has been this should

2435
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 2: have been done a long time ago in the English

2436
01:56:57,240 --> 01:56:59,600
Speaker 2: Football Association. So I don't have a problem. I'm not

2437
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 2: blaming anybody. I think it's a good thing, all.

2438
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:05,000
Speaker 1: Right, all right, Well, next up, guys.

2439
01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 6: So, if wrestling is truly entertainment and not a real sport,

2440
01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 6: why has MJN Center in Pokeepsie, New York?

2441
01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 1: Hopefully? I said that right.

2442
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:18,200
Speaker 6: Created a wrestling Hall of Fame with inductions except for

2443
01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 6: May ninth.

2444
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 1: Who do you blame? Andy?

2445
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 2: I think every school in the nation wants to stick

2446
01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 2: their heart into something and say we have this and

2447
01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 2: you don't. So now I think it's Maris College on

2448
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:31,880
Speaker 2: the campus of Poughkeepsie, New York. They could have a

2449
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:34,160
Speaker 2: wrestling Hall of Fame. Wrestling it's not a sport.

2450
01:57:34,280 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 1: It's like golf.

2451
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:38,320
Speaker 2: It's not a sport, it's a it's a times it's

2452
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 2: really it's scripted. Really, that's what it is. But people

2453
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 2: go they're entertained by it, and that's what it is.

2454
01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 2: So they could have a Hall of fame. All these

2455
01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:51,040
Speaker 2: fake athletes, that's what they are, fakes. Fake.

2456
01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:55,960
Speaker 3: I completely disagree with Andy. I believe wrestling is real.

2457
01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:59,000
Speaker 3: The athletes are real. A bunch of former football players

2458
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:01,920
Speaker 3: rock all these guys that have played football and now

2459
01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:04,520
Speaker 3: slamming their bodies into people. I don't know what he's

2460
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:06,839
Speaker 3: talking about when he comes to the scriptive stuff. Everything

2461
01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 3: that I see I believe. So what he's talking about

2462
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 3: it scripted. I'll give you an example. When I lived

2463
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 3: in Denver, Colorado, way back in the day. All Right

2464
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 3: wood he Page was now on TV. He was the

2465
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 3: columnist for the Rocky Mountain News, and he got a script.

2466
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:25,880
Speaker 3: He got the scripted in his column the day before

2467
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:28,440
Speaker 3: the night before a big wrestling match in Denver, he

2468
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:31,960
Speaker 3: wrote down the winners of every match. They went crazy,

2469
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:34,160
Speaker 3: they went crazy, and he wrote that in this column.

2470
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:36,280
Speaker 3: I loved it and what he page did that. I

2471
01:58:36,440 --> 01:58:40,560
Speaker 3: loved every minute of it scripted. So he just predicted

2472
01:58:40,760 --> 01:58:41,960
Speaker 3: who was going to win the wrestaurant.

2473
01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:46,080
Speaker 2: He No, he had to script he did?

2474
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 3: You know?

2475
01:58:48,600 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 6: I signed with my guy, Bucky. I'm with you wrestling Israel.

2476
01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:56,320
Speaker 6: I'm with you last year, your producer, that's you. I'm

2477
01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:59,760
Speaker 6: sorry to be the final final one guys a soft

2478
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:02,560
Speaker 6: I'll pitch you're a Nijari Kennedy.

2479
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:04,240
Speaker 1: I hope I'm saying that name right.

2480
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:05,320
Speaker 2: She doesn't care.

2481
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 1: Okay?

2482
01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 6: What was leaving Perennial Power Stanford for Texattech for the

2483
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:12,840
Speaker 6: unheard of one hundred mili in the nil deal?

2484
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 3: Just one mill?

2485
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 1: Just one mill? Sorry? Who do you blame? Bucky?

2486
01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:20,880
Speaker 3: Oh? And Io is out of control. Boos's collectors putting

2487
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:24,040
Speaker 3: the big money. I blame him. She's leaving a terrific program.

2488
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:26,640
Speaker 3: But I can't blame her for chasing the bag? Can

2489
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:27,200
Speaker 3: I blame her?

2490
01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:31,560
Speaker 2: A million dollars for women's softball? So you're gonna tell

2491
01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 2: me now? A quarterback at Tennessee was ranting and raithing.

2492
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:36,920
Speaker 2: He's got to get if he's got, you get a

2493
01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:39,560
Speaker 2: million dollars for a women's softball player. You gotta get

2494
01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:42,400
Speaker 2: five million dollars for a quarterback, right, I mean, it's amazing,

2495
01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:44,760
Speaker 2: hung but I want to wish everybody a great day.

2496
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 2: Countdown his next Bucky, have a wonderful week. I'll see

2497
01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:50,120
Speaker 2: you next week at Marcus you you as well, And

2498
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 2: of course Patty will see you next Sunday. Right here

2499
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 2: where Fox Sports ready was the place hang with us,

2500
01:59:56,240 --> 02:00:01,520
Speaker 2: right they're coming up next Countdown No Krakenberger and of

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02:00:01,640 --> 02:00:05,360
Speaker 2: course Jeff Schwartz, my guy right here on Fox. Stay here,