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Speaker 1: Welcome back in final hour of the week, fourteen hours up.

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Speaker 2: Working on the fifteenth hour.

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Speaker 1: Now, we've been talking about the TikTok band, the President

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Speaker 1: Trump lawf air officially coming to a conclusion in New

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Speaker 1: York City. In many ways, at least we're going to

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Speaker 1: be joined now by our friend Andy McCarthy. But I

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Speaker 1: also want to mention in the meantime, I think we

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Speaker 1: have like one hundred thousand TikTok followers on the Clay

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Speaker 1: and Buck Show, so I should mention that we are

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Speaker 1: active on TikTok. Basically, if you go on to any

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Speaker 1: social media platform, in addition to being able to hear

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Speaker 1: us three hours every day, whether it's TikTok, whether it's Instagram,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Facebook, whether it's Twitter, you can put in

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Speaker 1: my name, you can put in Buck's name, you can

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Speaker 1: put in Clay and Buck, and you will find us

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Speaker 1: on every social media platform under the sun. I doubt

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Speaker 1: that Andy McCarthy has been like Buck Sexton, practicing dance

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Speaker 1: moves in his apartment, trying to get ready for TikTok's celebritydom.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he has. He's a Mets fan. After all, There's

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Speaker 1: not a lot to answer for though at least not historically.

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Speaker 1: And Andy joins us, Now we're gonna get into a

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Speaker 1: bunch of stuff. Andy Mett's had a good offseason. By

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Speaker 1: the way, congratulations on your owner being so rich he

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Speaker 1: can pay whatever he wants for anybody.

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Speaker 2: It's a nice thing to have.

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Speaker 1: But let's dive into some of these legal related issues.

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Speaker 1: I just I understand that the Trump team is angry

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Speaker 1: about the fact that a sentence dosn't occurred. But if

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Speaker 1: you and I had gone on the air when all

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Speaker 1: this started and said, if Trump is convicted of everything,

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Speaker 1: eventually it's going to lead to an unconditional discharge, where

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Speaker 1: effectively Judge mrchan acknowledges that there is no punishment and

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Speaker 1: there are no consequences other than the process itself for Trump.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people would have called us crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yet this is where we are, basically after all this

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Speaker 1: merchand says, Okay, I'm gonna stamp him. He's a felon,

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Speaker 1: but nothing at all is going to happen to him.

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Speaker 1: This case is over unconditional discharge. I mean, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of an un recedented procedural posture from my perspective. Would

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Speaker 1: you agree, how would you analyze it?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's the best outcome play for Trump. Now,

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Speaker 3: I say that as someone who's been I've kind of

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Speaker 3: been pushing against the grain with a number of my

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Speaker 3: friends who point out, and I do not disagree with

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Speaker 3: this in principle, that this is a preposterous case. Trump

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Speaker 3: has an excellent chance of getting it reversed on appeal.

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Speaker 3: But those of us who've been in the biz know

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Speaker 3: that you can't get to your appeal until you've been

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Speaker 3: sentenced and the judgment of conviction is formally entered. And

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Speaker 3: that means this had to happen today if you were

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Speaker 3: going to get onto the appeal. And I think a

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Speaker 3: lot of people look at this and say, you know, look,

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Speaker 3: Trump's got a great chance of winning an appeal. Why

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Speaker 3: doesn't he just like, let the sentencing happen and let's

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Speaker 3: get on with it. But the thing is, it's not

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Speaker 3: my criminal record. You know, It's easy for me to

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Speaker 3: say on balance, I I think he should just get

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Speaker 3: on with the sentencing so he can get on with

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Speaker 3: the appeal. But President Trump is a seventy eight year

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Speaker 3: old guy who was proud of the fact that he

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Speaker 3: never had a run in with the law that left

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Speaker 3: him with a criminal record before, and I think he's

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Speaker 3: appalled at the fact that he got dragged through this

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Speaker 3: totally absurd criminal proceeding which wouldn't have happened to anyone else,

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Speaker 3: brought by a district attorney who's notorious to not enforcing

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Speaker 3: the laws. So it couldn't have been more clear that

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Speaker 3: it was just a rig political thing. So I understand

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Speaker 3: why he didn't want to have this happen. And look,

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Speaker 3: he came within ten days of basically getting to the

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Speaker 3: point where they couldn't touch him anymore, which is why

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Speaker 3: they were in such a hot panic to do this.

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Speaker 3: But I think when they all step back from this,

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Speaker 3: what they're going to linger on is what you just summarized.

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Speaker 3: And the way I've been putting this point is this.

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Speaker 3: Remember that in bringing this case and converting what's normally

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Speaker 3: a misdemeanor in New York into a felony, what Bragg

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Speaker 3: claimed was Trump falsified his business records for the purpose

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Speaker 3: of committing another crime. And the other crime they said

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Speaker 3: And I think everybody now knows that if you really

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Speaker 3: all the power of the presidency. How on earth could

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Speaker 3: you sentence him to no jail, no probation, and no fine.

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Speaker 3: So I think in the end, it just really shows

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Speaker 4: Andy, do you feel like this has, on the one hand,

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Speaker 4: greatly undermine respect for the law, But on the other

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Speaker 4: hand there's the reject of lawfair that has occurred at

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Speaker 4: the ballot box?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 4: I mean, to me, looking at this, it seems like

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Speaker 4: this has been a really bad time for the law

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Speaker 4: as a general concept and for the system. But also

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Speaker 4: it's been preserved in another sense. How do you look

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Speaker 4: at this now that we've gone through the four criminal prosecutions,

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Speaker 4: we've seen where it all goes.

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Speaker 5: You know, how do you assess the damage?

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Speaker 3: I think it's really bad. I'm thankful that it wasn't

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Speaker 3: worse because I think the good fortune buck that happened here,

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Speaker 3: which isn't getting enough attention, is the Supreme Court's immunity ruling.

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Speaker 3: If it hadn't been to the immunity litigation, then Jack

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Speaker 3: rush the j six case to trial, and I think

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Speaker 3: if they had tried Trump, say for two or three

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Speaker 3: and what they what that case was about was something

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Speaker 3: that people are not happy about. Right the January sixth thing.

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Speaker 3: You can argue, and I have argued that prosecution in

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Speaker 3: the criminal courts was not the right check on that behavior.

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Speaker 3: But that's a technical legal argument. That would have been

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Speaker 3: you know, two or three months of trial with you know,

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Speaker 3: a reminder of that event in the middle of the campaign,

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Speaker 3: and I think people might have had a different impression

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Speaker 3: of law en of law fare. What ended up happening

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Speaker 3: was because the Supreme Court issued first of the immunity litigation,

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Speaker 3: which Smith didn't anticipate, put the whole January sixth case

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Speaker 3: as a result, in the public mind law there is

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Speaker 3: Bragg's case, and that's what Trump should always have wanted.

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Speaker 3: So I think it worked out well for Trump because

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Speaker 3: in the public mind law there is this very abusive

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Speaker 3: use of the criminal proceedings to invent a case unabashedly

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Speaker 3: and it's an idiotic case. So I think that was

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Speaker 3: that helped Trump a lot in the election. But it

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Speaker 3: might not have worked out that way if if it

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Speaker 1: Let's wait into the weeds. You mentioned that you think

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Speaker 1: there might be an appeal that could work. I presume

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Speaker 1: that could be a multi front appeal in both What

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Speaker 1: is the second crime that allowed this to be elevated

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Speaker 1: from a misdemeanor to a felony. That's always been a

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Speaker 1: bit of a mess in this brag case. Also, how

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Speaker 1: could presidential immunity, if at all, ultimately weigh in here

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Speaker 1: in terms of worthies or worthies not official presidential tactics

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Speaker 1: in some way. What do you think the chances, if

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Speaker 1: you were setting odds are on appeal for Trump at

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Speaker 1: this point, Not that it matters that much, because again

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Speaker 1: there is an unconditional discharge and there's no actual crime

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Speaker 1: but a punishment. But two years from now, what do

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Speaker 1: you think the chances are that we basically have this

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Speaker 3: I don't know what a number i'd put on it,

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Speaker 3: but I would be shocked if this case survives appeal.

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Speaker 3: And that's because I think it's shot through with reversible error,

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Speaker 3: even in the bringing of the case in the first place. So,

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Speaker 3: for example, since you're inviting me to get in the weeds,

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Speaker 3: I think it's a violation of New York's constitution to

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Speaker 3: bring the case the way brag Thing brought it because

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Speaker 3: the statute that he relied on did not make it

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Speaker 3: clear and does not make it clear that a state

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Speaker 3: Then I think the indictment fails as an indictment because

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Speaker 3: it fails to state the second crime, so it doesn't

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Speaker 3: put the defendant on notice of what the crime is,

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Speaker 3: which is what an indictment supposed to do.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry to cut you off here.

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Speaker 1: In fact, if I remember correctly, didn't they say the

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Speaker 1: second crime could be any one of three different second crimes,

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Speaker 1: Like they didn't even specify which one you had to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're hitting the one at the end that I

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Speaker 3: think is the most egregious era of all, which is

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Speaker 3: that Merchon told the jury that they didn't need to

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Speaker 3: be unanimous on what the other crime was. That you know,

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Speaker 3: basically there was three choices, but he didn't even make

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Speaker 3: and you don't need to be unanimous. And the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 3: i think, cannot have been more clear that in a

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Speaker 3: year into a four year felony when which, when strung

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Speaker 3: together the way braggedon, we're talking about like one hundred

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Speaker 3: and thirty years potential of incarceration. Right. So obviously under

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court jurisprudence, the jury had to be unanimous on

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Speaker 4: Be andy, can you also give us your sense we

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Speaker 4: only got a couple of minutes, but on the whole

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Speaker 4: TikTok fiasco, the oral arguments heard by the Supreme Court today.

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Speaker 4: Just what do you make of forcing the sale or

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Speaker 4: shutdown of this app and the Congress stepping in and

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Speaker 4: all that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess because of the work I've done in

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Speaker 3: the national security realm over the years, I really thought

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Speaker 3: this was kind of a frivolous appeal. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: feel like in the age of lawfair have thrown it around.

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Speaker 6: It a whole lot.

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Speaker 3: But this is not a First Amendment case. Nobody is

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Speaker 3: stopping anybody's speech. What they're saying, basically is that a

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Speaker 3: hostile foreign power cannot own a platform for expression in

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Speaker 3: the United States. No one's saying that somebody else can't

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Speaker 3: operate TikTok the same way. And no one is saying

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Speaker 3: now that they no one's saying they can't do that.

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Speaker 3: What they're saying is that a hostile foreign power can't

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Speaker 3: seems to me to be common sense, all right.

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Speaker 5: Karthia everybody, and you appreciate you being with us as always.

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, have a good one.

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Speaker 8: to do their mass deportation efforts and Blue states say no,

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Speaker 8: come here, will protect you, you won't be deported and

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Speaker 8: that wars some people from Florida or North Carolina or

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Speaker 8: Georgia to New York and New Jersey. That's what saves

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Speaker 8: New York would be down two or three seats. Ohio

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Speaker 8: but it wouldn't be that much more concidering how much

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Speaker 8: they're going to be looking for. They're going to be saying, hey,

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Speaker 8: we need to continue legal immigration because a lot of

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Speaker 8: legal immigrants, because they have family and associations, go to

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Speaker 8: That's their only way of decreasing their population losses. And

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Speaker 8: what you saw is some from twenty twenty one estimate

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite lessons so far that I have

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Speaker 1: is that it was actually the least racially polarized election

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Speaker 1: that we've had since nineteen sixty four. That is all

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Speaker 1: the way back sixty years in the life of many

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Speaker 2: Do you think that.

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Speaker 1: Is a symptom of something that is likely to continue

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Speaker 1: to evolve or would you say Trump is a unicorn

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Speaker 1: in the way that he had so much appeal to black,

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Speaker 1: Hispanic and Asian voters. How much of this is Trump?

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Speaker 1: How much of this is a large JR. Realignment going

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Speaker 8: It's funny on it's a numbers game. Not this upcoming

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Speaker 8: Patrick Raffini from Echelon Insights to talk about this very thing.

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Speaker 8: Part of it is definitely because Trump is not a

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Speaker 8: classical Republican, right he has never been pro you know,

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Speaker 8: he never talked very heavily about slashing budgets, and he's

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Speaker 8: He's not you know, your George hw Bush Republican, and

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Speaker 8: that has large appeals to people who are former Democrats

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Speaker 8: and also Democrats becoming high on their supply of you know,

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Speaker 8: Asians and Hispanics who said, I'm not about this, and

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Speaker 8: don't like that either. All trends are going one direction

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Speaker 8: until they're not anymore. So we'll have to sit there

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Speaker 8: and see. Ultimately, when you're talking about building an electoral

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Speaker 8: mandate right. From a Republican perspective, the batter is the

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Speaker 8: helps in some states. How much does it continue, I

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Speaker 8: don't know. A portion of the realignment came from conservatives,

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Speaker 8: conservative people who are minorities who have maybe they were

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Speaker 8: but they were just ancestrally Democrat and they made their

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Speaker 8: you know what, this Trump experimental last decade was fun.

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Speaker 8: Let's get back to you know, the politics of George W. Bush.

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Speaker 8: And they say, well, this is not really, well, whar

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Speaker 8: about it anymore? I think Trump opened the door for

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Speaker 8: a lot of it. It just is a question if

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Speaker 8: the Republican Party chooses to continue walking through the door.

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Speaker 8: Some Republicans, you know, like Senator Jim Banks for example,

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Speaker 8: and other ones definitely want to continue that momentum. Jade

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Speaker 8: Vancel is that momentum. Other of themse would love to

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Speaker 8: shut that door and go back to the tribe into

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Speaker 8: true beliefs that they had maybe forty years ago, because

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Speaker 8: they haven't flipped the calendar in a long time and

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Speaker 4: Speaking of Ryan Gardusky, it's a numbers game. As this

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Speaker 4: podcast and the Clay and Buck Network first episode out

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Speaker 4: this week, he's got another one coming out Monday. To

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Speaker 4: that end, Ryan, on the immigration side of things, what

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Speaker 4: are you talking to the podcast? And just as an

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Speaker 4: additional question to throw at you, do you think that

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Speaker 4: there's more support for the mass deportations than the Democrat

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Speaker 4: corporate media is ready for.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean I definitely. I mean you're seeing it

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Speaker 8: think it was eighty plus members, including a ton of Democrats,

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Speaker 8: joined in hand and Hanman. Basically any Democrat in a

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Speaker 8: tough district, a few of them sat there and voted

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Speaker 8: they're sitting there and saying wow, defending criminality is very,

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Speaker 8: very very bad for US. I have on THEO Wold

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Speaker 8: as my guest. THEO Wold is the is the solicitor

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Speaker 8: general from the state of Idaho, and he worked for

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Speaker 8: both Jared Kushner and Steven Miller in the first from administration.

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Speaker 8: So we go over, you know, there's an The data

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Speaker 8: two point four million net million new migrant new immigrants

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Speaker 8: per year under the Biden administration, the most in our history.

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Speaker 8: So THEO goes over, what what can the administration do

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Speaker 8: by itself? What does it need Congress to do? And

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Speaker 8: what really can we expect from a Trump two point

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Speaker 8: zero term. What can we sit there and say that

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Speaker 8: they can do unilaterally, you know, regardless if Republicans and

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Speaker 8: Democrats kick and drag their feet and the corporate media

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Speaker 8: and the donors sit there and kick and drag their feet,

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Speaker 8: if he has the will, what is the way to

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Speaker 8: sit there and really change our immigration?

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Speaker 1: Last question for you, Ryan, we saw Nevada go red,

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Speaker 1: and I know it's gone red before, but it's been

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Speaker 1: a while. California and New York both moved massively. Read

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Speaker 1: all fifty states moved red and it actually got close

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Speaker 1: in New Jersey and Virginia early. I know we just

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Speaker 1: finished an election, but the next elections to take place

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Speaker 1: governorships in New Jersey and Virginia. How competitive do you

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Speaker 1: think those will be? Do you buy into the idea

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Speaker 1: that New Jersey or Virginia could be in play not

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Speaker 1: only for the governorships but as potential flippable states as

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Speaker 8: Well, Virginia has a great nominee for the Republican and

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Speaker 8: Democratic side, So in Virginia will be very, very very

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Speaker 8: tough win some sears of the lieutenant governor's running Governor Glenn

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Speaker 8: Younkin is super popular outgoing, so who knows, but Virginia

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Speaker 8: is definitely starting off as a toss of place. I'll

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Speaker 8: say a good piece of data for you about New Jersey.

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Speaker 8: In two thousand and nineteen, Democrats have abated about a

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Speaker 8: one million voter registrated advantage in New Jersey than Republicans

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Speaker 8: is about one million more Democrats and Republicans. It's under

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Speaker 8: eight hundred thousand, or about eight hundred thousand now they have.

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Speaker 8: Republicans have outregistered them every month continually for over three years.

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Speaker 8: Now it's six thousand months, five thousand months. But over time,

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Speaker 8: that matters, that goes in one direction, and it's continuous,

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Speaker 8: and I don't you know, could it be, could have happened.

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Speaker 8: It'll be a tough it'll be a tough fight, but

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Speaker 8: it's not impossible in New Jersey. You know, this is

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Speaker 8: the third straight election we've seen New Jersey get closer

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Speaker 8: and closer and closer. It is a trend. It is

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Speaker 8: not a fluke. The governor's race wasn't a fluke, the

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Speaker 8: state legislative race of the year before that wasn't a fluke.

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Speaker 8: And this presidency is not a fluke. And they need

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Speaker 8: to wake up for that. Just like in New York City,

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Speaker 8: we've seen trans moving to the right. And the crazy

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Speaker 8: thing is it's happening organically because there is no real

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Speaker 8: these states in these areas. This is happening because people

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Speaker 4: Ryan Gerduski, everybody go check out. It's a numbers game

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Speaker 9: I wanted to weigh in on what Buck is talking

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Speaker 9: about the decorations this year. What I'm going to do

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Speaker 9: is when I normally only leave the lights on all

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Speaker 9: night on Christmas Eve, but this year I'm going to

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Speaker 9: leave the lights on all night for inauguration night for Trump.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be awesome.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's actually cool.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about when you need to bring down your lights,

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Speaker 1: and that's a cool idea to leave them up until

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Speaker 1: the twentieth of January when Trump is inaugurated as a celebration.

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Speaker 1: I kind of respect that you and I will be

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Speaker 1: up in DC starting next week.

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Speaker 4: I also think Clay, it's really nice, you know, for

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Speaker 4: you going in this weekend to know that there are

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Speaker 4: those in this audience who are so devoted to Clay

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Speaker 4: and all things Clay Travis that they're willing to back

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Speaker 4: you up on your absolute worst takes, no matter what

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Speaker 4: your take is, no matter how bad it is. There

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Speaker 4: are those in this audience who will stand in the flames.

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Speaker 5: They'll do anything too.

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Speaker 4: And here is podcast listener Jill and Ohio on your

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Speaker 4: pizza taste, Play.

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Speaker 10: It up, Clay and Bock. Jill in Ohio and I

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Speaker 10: say absolutely, one hundred percent jalapeno, mushroom, maybe even some

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Speaker 10: banana peppers, and the kicker a.

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Speaker 5: Little Anchovies fast pizza.

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Speaker 1: Ever, stay cho First of all, I appreciate Jill having

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Speaker 1: my back. Buck, I got obliterated for my true, honest

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Speaker 1: opinion the best possible pizza out there, mushroom and jalapeno

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Speaker 1: on top. Not saying everybody's gonna love it, I'm saying

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Speaker 1: it's the best in my anchovies though, do We've never

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Speaker 1: had Anchoby pizza. Honestly, I'm a big fan of seafood,

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Speaker 1: so I probably would like it. I had a tuna

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Speaker 1: steak last night. It was fabulous. Hey, stay safe out there.

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Speaker 1: Weather is brutal in many parts of the country. Enjoy

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Speaker 1: the games. We love you Guys make sure you stay safe.