WEBVTT - Weekly Music History-Deceember 15-21 with Buzz Knight

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ready, mister Mayhem.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes I am, Oh yes i am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Buzzsnight, the host of the Taken a Walk podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm so happy that you're here for another look

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<v Speaker 1>at this week in music history and master of music

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<v Speaker 1>Mayhem Harry Jacobs. What week are we looking at?

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<v Speaker 2>This is the week of December fifteenth through the twenty first.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy moly, you know, I distinctly remember last year we

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<v Speaker 2>were at this point. A year ago, we were about

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<v Speaker 2>a month or so into doing this. I had no

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<v Speaker 2>idea it would last a year right where. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we're both surprised by that.

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<v Speaker 1>By everything every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything that doesn't surprise you exactly? So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as we were thinking about this today, I was looking

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<v Speaker 2>back at the notes and I'm like, oh, buzz, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we should just run a rerun or a best of

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking these are really slow music weeks as

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<v Speaker 2>we as we get it into Christmas. But there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of information, you know, Claude dot Ai. I have

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<v Speaker 2>to tip my hat to them for the research help.

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<v Speaker 2>They're sponsor of the show, and they're they're a major

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<v Speaker 2>help in terms of researching and confirming things. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>just that. That's been a delight. But I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of information. You know, the next two weeks, which

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<v Speaker 2>I thought were going to be slow, We've got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff going on, a lot of stuff I

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<v Speaker 2>was unaware of.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll we'll have to parcel it out and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>minimize the amount of Connie Francis references because it's Christmas time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, here we go, Here we go. You think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going Connie Francis. You're wrong, my friend. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>may have to leave you with a cliffhanger for the

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<v Speaker 2>week of the fifteenth, when we may have to break

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<v Speaker 2>up the week of the fifteenth to the twenty first

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<v Speaker 2>into two parts. Let's get it rolling. December fifteenth, John

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<v Speaker 2>Lennon and the Yoko the Plastic ownA band with George

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<v Speaker 2>Harrison and Air Clapton and others, played the UNISEF charity

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<v Speaker 2>in London. This has happened in you know, nineteen seventy three.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this was his last appearance in the United Kingdom.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about a while to think about that. Yeah, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have loved to have been a fly in

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<v Speaker 1>the world for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh can you imagine? Do they know it's Christmas? Entered

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<v Speaker 2>the UK charts at number one. We've had this conversation

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<v Speaker 2>biggest selling single in the United Kingdom of all time,

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<v Speaker 2>George Michael and Sting and Bono and Phil Collins and

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<v Speaker 2>a host of others, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I still love hearing it. I mean, I don't race

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<v Speaker 1>towards the dial to turn the dial if I'm listening

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<v Speaker 1>to a Christmas station and that song comes on, like

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<v Speaker 1>I do with some songs.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I was speaking speaking at Christmas. I was watching

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<v Speaker 2>an interview with this guy's name Graham Norris, the guy

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<v Speaker 2>from London. You know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it sounds like he's English, but no, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's who he is. Anyway, he had Jennifer

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<v Speaker 2>Laurie song. She was on at the same time Springsteen

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<v Speaker 2>was on, and he asked her a question and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you have a favorite song that cheers you

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<v Speaker 2>up when you're on a movie set or you're feeling lonely,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter what time of year it is, And it's

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<v Speaker 2>a Springsteen song. And and they literally were asking Bruce

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<v Speaker 2>to guess what the song might be. They use the

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<v Speaker 2>word jolly, Well, will it makes her feel jolly? Makes

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<v Speaker 2>me feel jolly every time, and I'm thinking that would

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<v Speaker 2>be a dead giveaway for Santa Claus's coming to town.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. I think it is a dead giveaway.

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<v Speaker 2>I can hear that song anytime, anywhere and be.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy, no disrespect to when I say jolly.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, or how jolly Christmas, that's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>So at any rate, that's that's Jennifer Lawrence's favorite, cheer

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<v Speaker 2>her up kind of song.

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<v Speaker 1>I love her.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen him play that in the summer. I saw

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<v Speaker 2>him play that somewhere in July. It was funny if

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<v Speaker 2>people were throwing the Santa hats up and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do it. Nineteen seventy nine, Pink Floyd started a

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<v Speaker 2>five week run at number one on the UK charts,

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<v Speaker 2>and this led to the band's only number one single

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<v Speaker 2>the album was The Wall and Another Brick in the

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<v Speaker 2>Wall Part two was the song their only song that

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<v Speaker 2>made it to number one. And this was such an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting album for so many reasons. I can tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that this morning, twice this morning, I listened to that

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<v Speaker 2>album all the way through the double album. I just

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get back into it. I knew we

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<v Speaker 2>were going to talk about it, I realized that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew this like we all do, that there were,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, three different sections of Another Brick in the Wall,

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<v Speaker 2>Part one, Part two, and part three, and I went

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<v Speaker 2>specifically to listen to those three different parts. Initially I

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<v Speaker 2>think my favorite is Another Brick. Part one really dark, creepy,

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<v Speaker 2>but the song ends up rocking out. Part two was

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<v Speaker 2>the whole how can you have any meat if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have your pudding right? We don't need no education.

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<v Speaker 2>And number three was the darkest of the of the three.

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<v Speaker 2>And and it was one of those things. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the lyrics is I don't need no arms around me,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need no drugs to calm me. It was

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<v Speaker 2>this the guy, the protagonist, the pig, three stages of

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<v Speaker 2>grief and trauma in his life. It's a very dark

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at when you get down the rabbit

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<v Speaker 2>hole of what the Wall was all about. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>very dark album. And and that song, the three different,

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<v Speaker 2>three different you know it takes Another Brick part are

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<v Speaker 2>the three different parts one, two, and three, all very different,

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<v Speaker 2>but all three really dark.

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<v Speaker 1>When I put my Psychosis playlist together, that album is

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<v Speaker 1>at the height of it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's someone that that was damaged writing writing that album.

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<v Speaker 2>Roger twenty one a guy we owe a tip of

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<v Speaker 2>the hat to his birthday Alan Freed was born. He

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<v Speaker 2>actually coined the phrase rock and roll. But we all

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<v Speaker 2>know him a little tip of the hat. We wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be doing what we're doing today without him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Minus the fact that he got messed up

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<v Speaker 1>in the Paola side of things.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I forgot all about that. But he was

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<v Speaker 2>a part of that, wasn't he, So I believe Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for those that are unaware, Paola Plugola is when record

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<v Speaker 2>companies or artists went to the disc jockeys who in

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<v Speaker 2>those days were making decisions about songs that were getting played.

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<v Speaker 2>And Alan Freed took a bunch of money from the

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<v Speaker 2>record companies.

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<v Speaker 1>But we do owe him, and to your point, a

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<v Speaker 1>debt of gratitude.

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<v Speaker 2>Right nineteen seventy seven, who played a surprise show for

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<v Speaker 2>the documentary The Kids Are All Right. There's a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a scene in that movie where they're playing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in a very small venue, and that was the Shepperton

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<v Speaker 2>Studios that was used for the documentary, and they it

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<v Speaker 2>was basically an audience made up of fan club members

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<v Speaker 2>for that show. That's quite a prize, right, pretty Neat

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and one, Joe Walsh received an honorary doctorate

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<v Speaker 2>of Music from Kent State. I was unaware that it's

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Joe Walsh, but it is doctor Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>Walsh and Ken State too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Right, the song Ohio the Violence in seventy two, No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>before that had to be before that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it would have been sixty eight. I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say sixty eight or nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, sixty eight or sixty nine. Song came out.

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio came out right away, But a long way around

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<v Speaker 2>for Joe Walsh getting his doctorate. I'm surprised that we

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<v Speaker 2>never heard that. I'm surprised he didn't take that name

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, or take that title and add it to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to his name. Dr wolfsh absolutely. Dr two

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<v Speaker 2>thous Presume you're not a doctor, you're a dentist. From

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<v Speaker 2>the Hangover two thousand and three, Courtney Love sentenced to

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen months in rehab after she admitted she was under

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<v Speaker 2>the influence of coke and various opiates. I saw her

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<v Speaker 2>around that time. Our friend Billy Bush was here in

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<v Speaker 2>town to do something. I remember where we were at

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<v Speaker 2>the UNLV the auditorium there where they have shows their arena,

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<v Speaker 2>and we I did something with Billy around Beyonce and

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<v Speaker 2>jay Z who were at that show. But I remember

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<v Speaker 2>seeing Courtney Love there. I was struck by how enormous

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<v Speaker 2>she was in high heels. I mean, she was taller

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm over six feet and she was significantly taller

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<v Speaker 2>than I was, as I recall, and she was just

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<v Speaker 2>a disaster. I think it's fair to say once she

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<v Speaker 2>walked by, yeah sad, you know. Yeah, I could smell

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<v Speaker 2>the pills coming off of her. It was it was set.

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<v Speaker 2>I think her life is together these days, maybe maybe not.

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily we haven't heard much, so I think maybe it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen, you know that deep loss, you know, never

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<v Speaker 1>never loves her for sure, It's get carried through her

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<v Speaker 1>entire life. So you know you do have to have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, empathy for.

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<v Speaker 2>Loss, you know, get a little you know, a little

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<v Speaker 2>Kurt Kobain coming up to talk about as well, so

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<v Speaker 2>we'll touch on that. But yeah, very sad sequence of

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<v Speaker 2>events that led her down her road of self destruction, No,

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<v Speaker 2>no other way to put it. Elton John hitting number

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<v Speaker 2>one on the fifteenth in the UK was sorry. It

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be the hardest word. Really. I'm a fan

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<v Speaker 2>of those ballad the long ballads, Sorry and Tiny Dancer

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<v Speaker 2>and leave On. Just the softer kind of Elton from

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<v Speaker 2>that period of time, you know, those longer ballads. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>even I like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Old Yeah, the older versions. I think the Disney version

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<v Speaker 1>of Elton it wasn't my favorite part, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Brief sidebar relating to to Elton, uh and to Paul McCartney.

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<v Speaker 1>We finally saw the spinal Tap reboots.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul rob Reiner was on the show and Elton plays

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<v Speaker 1>a prominent role in it, as does Paul McCartney too,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's totally worth seeing. You know, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>even though I loved having Rob on. Listen, I'm calling

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<v Speaker 1>him Rob. Yeah, I I love having loved having them on,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's definitely worth seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fantastic. I have not seen it, and I will

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<v Speaker 2>take the assignment and I will watch it. Unlike you,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't always take the movie assignments for me, but

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<v Speaker 2>I guess in this arrangement, I work for you, So

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<v Speaker 2>I will watch it and report were Back in nineteen ninety,

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<v Speaker 2>Rod Stewart married Supermodel with Rachel Hunter. He was famously

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<v Speaker 2>quoted as saying, this is one of the most misogynistic

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<v Speaker 2>quotes ever in the history of misogynistic statements, that he

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<v Speaker 2>would no longer be putting his banana in anybody's fruit

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<v Speaker 2>bowl from then on.

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<v Speaker 1>They divorced. He's awful soul.

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<v Speaker 2>No. Nineteen eighty eight, Summer fifteen, James Brown sentenced to

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<v Speaker 2>six years in prison for various offenses, including a firearms

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<v Speaker 2>offense and also resisting arrest. Mister Brown was uncooperative when

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<v Speaker 2>authority showed up. He was waving the gun around.

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<v Speaker 1>He probably meant, well, I don't know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what he meant, and I don't think he knows what

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<v Speaker 1>he meant at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>No. December sixteenth, nineteen sixty six, Hey Joe was released

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<v Speaker 2>by Jimmy Hendrick Jimmy Hendrick Experience. It was on Pollardor

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<v Speaker 2>That song. Three years later was the close out for

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<v Speaker 2>his set at Woodstock.

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<v Speaker 1>Did a great version of that Oh there you go Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen eighty three Pete Towns and announced he was leaving

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<v Speaker 2>the WHO. It's a big deal at the time. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many farewell tours later, all due

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<v Speaker 2>respect to Pete and Roger.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's incredible, what a what a what a.

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<v Speaker 2>Couple of they are, and I don't know if they're

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I always like to kind of get a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of information and insight into what people what

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<v Speaker 2>the relationship was like, you know, Jagger and Richards and

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<v Speaker 2>Lennon and McCartney, and I think with with these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just wonder, you know, what the what

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<v Speaker 2>the relationship was like between them. I never heard much

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<v Speaker 2>about arguing or disagreeing. I know, you know, Roger needed

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<v Speaker 2>to continue to tour, he wanted the wanted and needed

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<v Speaker 2>the money. But I never heard much in the way

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<v Speaker 2>of content.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, I have another assignment for you relating to

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<v Speaker 1>a band situation or you know, two partners in music situation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fantastic this documentary it's called in Restless Dreams The

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<v Speaker 1>Music of Paul Simon. And there's two Paul Simon documentaries

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<v Speaker 1>that came out. There was the other one was Hulu

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<v Speaker 1>and this one we just recently watched. And boy, oh boy,

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<v Speaker 1>you get tremendous insight into that question. I'll just leave

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<v Speaker 1>it at that because you will see it in very

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<v Speaker 1>harsh terms with our garb uncle.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on my list. I came across it the other night.

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<v Speaker 2>I had watched something musical and then in the list

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<v Speaker 2>of suggested shows after that the Paul Simon thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>I need to watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fabulous, And you really gain greater appreciation for him.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's got a hearing issue which is preventing him,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, from playing and some more singing. But for both,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you can't hear, yeah, you sing so sad.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm looking forward to seeing it. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>try to watch it over the coming days and check

0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.720
<v Speaker 2>that out. In nineteen ninety three, on December sixteenth, Nirvana's

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<v Speaker 2>Unplugged concert air on MTV. This was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>This was one of Cobain's last performances. This is what

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<v Speaker 2>I was alluding to a few minutes ago when we

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about Courtney. He died on April eighth of

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety four, and the prior week he had escaped rehab.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if you remember the sequence of events,

0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:49.480
<v Speaker 2>but when you know the situation, the circumstances around his

0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:53.800
<v Speaker 2>death were very cloudy. April first, he escaped from rehab

0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:58.680
<v Speaker 2>two days after checking in and then he was found,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, on the eighth and in his suicide note

0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:07.680
<v Speaker 2>he used the words over the line, better to burn

0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:12.400
<v Speaker 2>out than fade away. Neil Young, Right, he part of

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty seven club. Kurt Cobain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and unbelievable and yeah, that MTV performance was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>words can't describe it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And if folks are curious about that, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a great segment where Rob Barnett joined you to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that. Rob Barnett, who was, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the big wigs for MTV for a period of time

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<v Speaker 2>and he was a great guest. So folks cancerts that up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And Danny Goldberg too, the manager of Nirvana, actually

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<v Speaker 1>is part of the great great episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Had taken a walk. And in two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 2>the remaining members of the Beatles began their legal action

0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:58.080
<v Speaker 2>against EMI on behalf of their interests in Apple. They

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<v Speaker 2>sued for I believe about thirty million dollars that they

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<v Speaker 2>thought was owed that EMI had Pilford from them.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that crazy just to think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>And now in this day and age, when you think

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<v Speaker 2>about the money that they thought they were owed and

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<v Speaker 2>we continue to have this discussion about streaming and album

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<v Speaker 2>sales and records in the record business. It's just they're

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<v Speaker 2>worth nothing. It would be worth nothing, you know at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, even though there's value in the catalog. That

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<v Speaker 2>what would that lawsuit have looked like today, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years twenty twenty one years later.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy to think about it. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen forty nine. Billy Gibbons, the Reverend Willie g As

0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.680
<v Speaker 2>he refers to himself, one of my favorite guitar players.

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<v Speaker 2>He was number thirty two on the twenty eleven Rolling

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<v Speaker 2>Stone list of best Guitar Players of all time, was born.

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<v Speaker 2>This is his birthday. Also on this day, this is

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<v Speaker 2>I never even heard this story. Same day Billy is

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<v Speaker 2>celebrating his birthday, Dusty is unpacking his car, either looking

0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:12.040
<v Speaker 2>deliberately for his Darringer pistol or it just falls out

0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:15.840
<v Speaker 2>of the car, but he inadvertently shoots himself in the

0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:21.400
<v Speaker 2>gut with his derringer pistol, and then he drove himself

0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:22.120
<v Speaker 2>to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, he obviously he can't make this, sup he

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<v Speaker 1>would he would go on to that way some years later.

0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:34.680
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that that happened to Dusty. Nineteen sixty seven

0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Big Day for Credence. Five singles and five albums were

0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.960
<v Speaker 2>certified gold literally on the same day. For Cretans, the

0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.320
<v Speaker 2>songs were down on a Corner looking out my back door,

0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:52.320
<v Speaker 2>traveling band Bad Moon up around the Bend, and then

0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:56.480
<v Speaker 2>the albums were Cosmos Factory, William, The Poor Boys, Green River,

0:17:56.680 --> 0:18:00.679
<v Speaker 2>Bayou Country, and the self titled Credence Clear Water Album.

0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.800
<v Speaker 2>So ten ten times the gold records in one day

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<v Speaker 2>for John Folgune Company, Big Day on this day in

0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:13.720
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventh year, nineteen seventy three, seventeen seventy three, some

0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.800
<v Speaker 2>guys did a thing. Members of the Sons of Liberty

0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:21.560
<v Speaker 2>boarded three British cargo ships in Boston Harbor and they

0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.640
<v Speaker 2>dumped three hundred and forty two chests of tea into

0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.359
<v Speaker 2>the ocean. It's by the way, it's alleged this was

0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:31.240
<v Speaker 2>a quiet attack on the British. They actually swept up

0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.440
<v Speaker 2>their mess on the deck, so the British didn't even

0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.440
<v Speaker 2>know right away. It was this thing that happened under

0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.800
<v Speaker 2>the cover of darkness, and they cleaned their mess up

0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:40.600
<v Speaker 2>and then split.

0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that about the story. Wow, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventeenth nineteen seventy seven, Elvis Costello was on Saturday Night Live.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you remember the story around this,

0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:56.000
<v Speaker 2>but he was supposed to play a couple of songs.

0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Sex Pistols were the original guests. There was a visa

0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:03.200
<v Speaker 2>prop that I think Laurene offered it to the Ramones.

0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:05.679
<v Speaker 2>After that, the Ramones said no, and then they went

0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:10.600
<v Speaker 2>to Elvis, who had just released My Am Is True,

0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.399
<v Speaker 2>and the song that they wanted him to play, the

0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:19.360
<v Speaker 2>label wanted him to play was less than Zero. So Elvis,

0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:23.800
<v Speaker 2>during rehearsal, plays the song and then he realizes that

0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.960
<v Speaker 2>the song is just too somber, it's too down. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a it's a downer for Saturday Night Live,

0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.800
<v Speaker 2>twelve o'clock at night on a Saturday night. So when

0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.879
<v Speaker 2>it's his time to come out and play, he plays

0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:40.040
<v Speaker 2>a couple of bars of less than zero, and then

0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:43.040
<v Speaker 2>he said he basically stops the band and announces to

0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.359
<v Speaker 2>the audience that that song is just too down, too somber,

0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:50.160
<v Speaker 2>and then he goes rip it into radio radio. Yeah,

0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:51.080
<v Speaker 2>I do recall that.

0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:56.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was a great I'm standing tools and the

0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.600
<v Speaker 3>story was legend would have it that he was banned

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<v Speaker 3>forever from Saturday Night Live, and that turned out to

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<v Speaker 3>not be true.

0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.680
<v Speaker 2>In nineteen eighty nine, he went back on twelve twelve

0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:11.680
<v Speaker 2>years later, he went back on and play So but

0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:15.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, great musical guest. And Elvis Costello is you know,

0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:20.000
<v Speaker 2>one of the the most underrated artists and writers of

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<v Speaker 2>our time. Springsteen, who we talk about often, has said

0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:29.800
<v Speaker 2>about Elvis Costello, we can't all be Elvis Costello, right,

0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just so great. And by the way,

0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Elvis does a great version of She's the One.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a big Springsteen fan, and I love Elvis is

0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.600
<v Speaker 2>agent gracefully too. I would agree. He did a tour

0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.840
<v Speaker 2>and they stopped here in Vegas. I remember, if you

0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.119
<v Speaker 2>remember that, it was like a game show where he

0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:49.680
<v Speaker 2>spun the wheel. The wheel was on stage.

0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I saw that. I saw that.

0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen him. I would like to see Elvis.

0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh he's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he like a Van Morrison, like Grumpy Moody, is

0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 2>like one of those guys where you just feel the

0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.280
<v Speaker 2>energy is just, you know, not ideal.

0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he used to be more that way. I

0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:10.200
<v Speaker 1>don't perceive it this way now.

0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:13.600
<v Speaker 2>He's still active, he's still playing, he's still out there.

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so creating. Yeah.

0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.840
<v Speaker 2>In eighty two, who played the last show of that

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<v Speaker 2>farewell one of many farewell tours as we talked about

0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:27.439
<v Speaker 2>at the Toronto Maple Leaf Gardens And this was actually

0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:32.159
<v Speaker 2>part of a TV special called Who's Last. You keep

0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:35.040
<v Speaker 2>waiting for these things to show up on Amazon or whatever,

0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:36.520
<v Speaker 2>these little gems. I'm sure.

0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it'll be out there at some point. Yeah,

0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:39.560
<v Speaker 1>they will.

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<v Speaker 2>December eighteenth. Zz Tops first album was released nineteen seventy one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a fan. I've always been a fan. I've got,

0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:51.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think a good personal history with zz Top,

0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:55.439
<v Speaker 2>just if nowhere else in my own mind centrum nineteen

0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:58.600
<v Speaker 2>eighty two on the Eliminator tour, drinking Schlitz beer backstage

0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:01.159
<v Speaker 2>with the great Paul Lemmier and three of my buddies

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:05.879
<v Speaker 2>from high school, and you know, just a just you know,

0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.240
<v Speaker 2>three guys that make a lot of noise, that sound great.

0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:12.560
<v Speaker 2>It's just a great show. That first album, though I

0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.359
<v Speaker 2>don't know a thing about any of it. The songs

0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:19.800
<v Speaker 2>are shaking your Tree, Brown Sugar, I don't think I mean,

0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.000
<v Speaker 2>they do a version of Jailhouse Rock the Elvis, but

0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:27.520
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't on an album. Squank going to Mexico, old Man, Neighbor, Neighbor,

0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:31.160
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of stuff that I don't know. Backdoor Love

0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Affair may be the only like deep cut that I'm

0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:37.280
<v Speaker 2>aware of from that that album, But that was the

0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:40.200
<v Speaker 2>first album nineteen seventy one. December eighteenth, it Zeazy Top.

0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Keith Richards in nineteen eighty three, at forty years old,

0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:49.720
<v Speaker 2>married Patty Hanson. This is also an interesting day because

0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:54.840
<v Speaker 2>he chose to marry Patty Hanson on his birthday. Who

0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:58.399
<v Speaker 2>does that on their birthday? I believe, and he married.

0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:01.320
<v Speaker 2>He married up too, of course, but I would believe

0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:05.200
<v Speaker 2>that if there was some sort of, you know, psychological

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:09.119
<v Speaker 2>examination done on this, this would be considered in this

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.639
<v Speaker 2>day and age, maybe narcissistic behavior. Possibly You've got to

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:14.760
<v Speaker 2>have your birthday on our wedding day. Like can you

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:17.640
<v Speaker 2>imagine the what I mean, You're married for a long time.

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:19.639
<v Speaker 2>I was married twice. I wasn't good at it, but

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.320
<v Speaker 2>I can just imagine one of my ex wives saying,

0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 2>why would you choose your birthday as our wedding day?

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Exactly?

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:29.200
<v Speaker 2>And that would be the end of that conversation we

0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:33.160
<v Speaker 2>moved it would be over yeah, oh yeah. Nineteen eighty two,

0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Bob Dylan made his movie debut. This was a Pat

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Garrett and Billy the Kid. The big song that came

0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:42.199
<v Speaker 2>out of this was Knocking on Heaven's Door part of

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:47.399
<v Speaker 2>the soundtrack. James Coburn, so familiar. Another guy with a

0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:51.960
<v Speaker 2>great voice, right remember you know his voice big had

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:55.200
<v Speaker 2>a white hair. And Chris Christofferson both in that movie

0:23:55.200 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 2>with Dylan, and the movie doesn't tickle anything in particular

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.200
<v Speaker 2>inside of me. I guess I got to go back

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:04.160
<v Speaker 2>and watch it, but I don't think it was one

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 2>of those that you know, goes down in history. Is

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 2>you know something you got to see.

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Kind of a spaghetti western. Just the fact that Bob

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 1>was in it was made it cool. And Christofferson it's

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:17.119
<v Speaker 1>but it's a spaghetti western, you know.

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And pop culture and nine Avatar premiered. One of

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 2>the things I just saw on social media was Matt

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Damon talking about things the roles he turned down that

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 2>he should have never turned down. And he says it

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 2>like shaking his head. He said, he said no to Avatar,

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 2>No boy, he said no to that lead role for

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 2>a percentage. December nineteenth, nineteen seven. We've all done We've

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:45.359
<v Speaker 2>all done shit like that. December nineteenth, nineteen seventy. Your

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:49.359
<v Speaker 2>song by Elton John hits the Billboard Hot one hundred.

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 2>This is an interesting thing because this show at the

0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Troubadour earlier that year and in August, I think August

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:03.399
<v Speaker 2>twenty fifth of nineteen seventy, Elton does the show at

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 2>the Troubadour. By the by Christmas time, the song goes

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 2>number one. But that show at the Troubadour is one

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:14.360
<v Speaker 2>of those things that will live on in infamy. The

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 2>Beach Boys several members of the Beach Boys were there.

0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:22.959
<v Speaker 2>Levon Helm was their record executives. Neil Diamond was in

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 2>the crowd for that show, and that was one of

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.399
<v Speaker 2>those where you know, the La Times said, you know,

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 2>they basically crowned him, you know, the next celebrity, the

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 2>must see artists. But a legendary show. And to watch

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 2>the clips and hear stuff, you know, a couple of

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:42.440
<v Speaker 2>tracks from that it was, you know, it sounds great

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:46.680
<v Speaker 2>still to this day, it sounds great. In seventy five,

0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Ronnie Wood joined the Stones. Ronnie Wood not just a

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:54.959
<v Speaker 2>great guitar player, and musician, but also an amazing artist.

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've seen the set list that

0:25:57.600 --> 0:25:59.880
<v Speaker 2>he draws before after the Stones show.

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll tell you a terrible story. I got his

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>book that depicts his artwork from him and he doodled

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and created some additional little art work. I can't find

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 1>the freaking thing. Oh that's awful. I can't find it.

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:23.399
<v Speaker 1>It's one like I can find everything, but that I

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 1>can't find it for the life of me.

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.959
<v Speaker 2>M And don't you there Ask your wife because there

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:30.360
<v Speaker 2>will be some sort of response there.

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh she's she knows too, she's asked the same questions.

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh, she's looked forward to you know. Yeah, but there's

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 2>you don't get the what did you do with it?

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Where did you leave it?

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>No, it was it was from being in Columbus running

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>into him and and and I can't freaking find it.

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 2>He he sells that his beautiful artwork. They do it

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:52.919
<v Speaker 2>through the website, but there are art galleries that that

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:56.440
<v Speaker 2>offer it up as well. But his artwork is really

0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 2>pretty fantastic, and he's he's one of the great guitar

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 2>players of our time as well.

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 2>Nineteen fifty five Carl Perkins wrote what would end up

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 2>becoming a rock and roll standard. Think about Blue Swaye Shoes,

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.399
<v Speaker 2>think about you know, Elvis did a version of it,

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Buddy Holly did a version of it. But if you

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.640
<v Speaker 2>were in a cover band, you know, a rock band

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 2>in the sixties and seventies and even in the eighties,

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:23.919
<v Speaker 2>you covered Blue Swaite shows, that's one of those songs

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.360
<v Speaker 2>that like, it's like for a guitar player or a musician,

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like, Johnny be good, you gotta know that song. Yeah,

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 2>it's a standard, a rock standard. In fifty seven, Elvis

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:37.399
<v Speaker 2>while living at Graceland, I didn't realize how long he

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:41.159
<v Speaker 2>has or how he long he did own Graceland. But

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 2>in fifty seven he was served with his draft papers

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 2>at Graceland. That's where the notice came. He ended up serving,

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 2>and he ended up in the thirty second I want

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.919
<v Speaker 2>to get this right, the thirty second Tank Battalion, third

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Armor Corps, based in Germany, where he served his time

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 2>in the army.

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>He looked good in a uniform, now.

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he did. Yeah, he just you know, he was

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Speaker 2>a good looking guy. That sixty eight Elvius was arguably

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 2>probably the best to come back tour with the letter

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:17.199
<v Speaker 2>suit and you know, the red guitar. It's probably the

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 2>best of Elvis. Soe twenty sixteen, this is interesting to me.

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 2>We were talking about charts and downloads and with the

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.679
<v Speaker 2>Beatles and the money the lawsuit with the MII. The

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 2>official chart company announced that they were changing the way

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 2>that it calculated the top forty to reflect the rise

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 2>in streaming back in twenty sixteen. So we're going back

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 2>nine almost ten years. So here's the way it works. Currently,

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 2>one hundred streams is counted as one sale of a song.

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 2>So you know, we used to go buy music when

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 2>we were kids. You go buy a forty five or

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 2>buy an album, that counts as a sale. Now someone

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 2>has to have a song eemed one hundred times to

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 2>consider it the sale of a song.

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's crazy.

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that interesting? And then from January twenty seventeen, the

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 2>ratio would become one hundred and fifty to one, so

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty downloads equals the sale of a song.

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's.

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Interesting to me how that's kind of we've never stopped me.

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 2>We're in this music thing here together talking about this

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's never come up. It's very interesting to me

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 2>that that's how they thought that they would break the

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 2>bottleneck in the music industry with the charts and everything

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:36.959
<v Speaker 2>else people, because songs were just hanging on forever.

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>It'll read the fine print, right, Yeah.

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Twenty fifteen, Thriller became the first album to ever sell

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:49.479
<v Speaker 2>thirty million copies, the runner up to this day biggest

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 2>selling album. The runner up is The Eagles' Greatest Hits

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 2>seventy one to seventy five, twenty nine million copies as

0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 2>of today, Insane. In my garage, I have a sign

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 2>that a friend of mine gave me in Woolster in

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety or nineteen ninety one, and it was an

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 2>item he found at the Brimfield Fair and it was

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 2>and is this sign for Buffalo Springfield. It's a tractor plate,

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 2>so it's you know, it's you know, maybe a foot

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 2>and a half by a foot tall, and it's green

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 2>with white print, and it's from a Buffalo Springfield brand tractor.

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 2>That's where they got their name. And I have one

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 2>of those tractor plates in my garage. The thing weighs

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 2>a ton. Bring it by sometimes. Yeah, well, yeah, it's

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:51.479
<v Speaker 2>easy I don't know if I get through security with that.

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Probably not.

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Nineteen seventy five, Joe Walsh replaced Berna leadon a recent

0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 2>guest on taking a Walk.

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and by the way, he did go back to

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the Eagles for a run, so they were on friendly

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>enough terms there. But are they still Are they still okay?

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I think so. I think it's all you know, this

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>reconciliations or whatever. Yeah, it seems like, who knows, what

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 1>do I know?

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I let's see. Just like starting Over, the John Lennon

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 2>song from the Double Fantasy added up hitting number one.

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 2>This happened at a time it was just literally right

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 2>after his death. It was less than two weeks after

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 2>he was shot in front of the Dakota. But that

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 2>was his first and only number one song. It's just

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 2>like starting Over.

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>It's a beautiful song and a heartbreaking loss, you know.

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a couple of things for the Stones on this day.

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 2>In nineteen seventy one, they released Hot Rocks Great double

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 2>album Greatest Hits Collection. It was one of the first

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 2>albums I remember having as a kid. I think I

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 2>grabbed it from my parents, from my father. And also

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 2>in sixty nine, Let It Bleed hit the top of

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 2>the charts, so sixty nine and seventy one Big Days.

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 2>By the way, Let It Bleed was the last album

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 2>with Brian Jones. He was fired midway through Let It Bleed,

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 2>and if you'll excuse my crass comment, he ended up,

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, being found face down on the pool, his pool.

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Mick Jones joined to replace him, and that's a story

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 2>with those two Stones albums and Brian Jones Man nineteen

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 2>forty seven, two birthdays, nineteen forty seven, nineteen forty eight,

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty seven. Peter Chris, drummer from Kiss, Gene Simmons,

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 2>after the recent passing of Ace, freely has talked kind

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 2>of openly about how the band treated Peter and Ace,

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, during the eighties after they were essentially sent

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 2>packing out of the band. I knew Ace had his issues,

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize Peter did as well. But there was

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>a time where Gene was just kind of inconsiderate in

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 2>terms of the way he did by his own admission,

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 2>about the way he talked about Ace and Peter. And

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 2>I think since Ace is passing, he's come out and

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 2>he said, listen, we didn't do enough as a band

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 2>to take care of these guys. We weren't as patient

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 2>as we should have been there. I mean, there was

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 2>obviously unreliability. Both Peter and Ace, you know, were late

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 2>or didn't show up for rehearsals. And you know, Jean

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 2>and Paul are guys that don't drink or don't do

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 2>any drugs, and I think it was probably trying on

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 2>them to have these two important members of the band

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 2>that were under in the clutches of alcohol and drugs

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 2>at the time. So Alan Parsons nineteen forty eight, famous musician,

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 2>probably the I would think, maybe one of the most

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 2>well known projects. He may not be well known for

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 2>it to those that don't pay attention to the weeds

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff, but a producer for Dark Side of

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 2>the Moon.

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, think about his career, you know, the

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>production excellence, career as a solo artist. Just a great

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 1>respect for him.

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've talked in the past. I shared with you

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 2>that I interviewed him maybe nineteen ninety seven or ninety

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 2>eight on July fourth, and I remember the conversation specifically

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 2>because I had asked him our friend George Taylor Morris

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 2>was starting to talk about Dark Side of the Moon

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and Wizard of Oz and I asked Alan Parsons about that,

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 2>and I can't think of another time I felt like

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:50.959
<v Speaker 2>such an idiot where I put my foot in my mouth.

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 2>But he didn't know a thing about it. He claimed

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 2>to be unaware of the connection at that point in time.

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:00.919
<v Speaker 1>Believe him too.

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there's no reason to lot, no reason exactly. No.

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 2>This is an interesting day that December twenty first, our

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 2>next day. This was a day that in nineteen seventy,

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Elvis drove from Graceland to Washington. His first stop in Washington.

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 2>I want to get this right because they're no longer

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:28.719
<v Speaker 2>called by this name. The Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Drugs was around at that time under Tricky Dick. So

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:39.919
<v Speaker 2>Elvis shows up at this agency and pleads with them

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 2>that he can help with the war on drugs. Right,

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 2>this was before Nancy Reagan's War on drugs. This was,

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, nineteen seventy. So they basically show them the door.

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 2>They're like, you know, what are you going to do?

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 2>We're not interested. He wanted a badge, he wanted to

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 2>be named and you know, an agent in fighting the

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:58.720
<v Speaker 2>war on drugs. So he gets turned down by this group,

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 2>and then he goes to the White House with a

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 2>six page letter for Nixon and wants to be seen

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 2>by Nixon, so he asks to be named a special agent.

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 2>He asks for a badge. I never heard this, Like,

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm reading this story this morning. I'm like, how do

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 2>we not know this? It's such good information. So it's juicy,

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 2>it really is. So the government agency, the Bureau of

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs, takes a hard pass. Elvis is

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 2>able to talk Nixon into it. Nixon gives him a badge.

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Elvis gives Nixon a gun, a cult forty five from

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 2>the war, like a trade. You give me a badge,

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 2>I give you a gun. And then that famous picture

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 2>was taken. It seems like I almost always see the

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 2>black and white version, but Elvis in that picture is

0:36:52.800 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 2>wearing this purple vlure or velvet jumpsuit, shaken Nixon's hand. Classic,

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 2>it's one of That picture is one of the most

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 2>requested photographs still to this day in the US National Archives.

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, it's a classic.

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 2>A couple more, yeah, A couple more quick ones to

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 2>wrap this up. Born in the USA passed thriller to

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 2>hit seventy nine weeks on the charts, and which Taal

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:25.800
<v Speaker 2>lineman hit the top two hundred. Glenn Campbell's only number

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 2>one and the Billboard Charts ever, and there's an appreciation

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 2>I have for him and we all should have. And

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 2>we'll talk more next week about that Beahemian Raps that

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 2>he hit number one in ninety one after Freddie Mercury's death.

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.760
<v Speaker 2>And Paul Simon performed Sound of Silence at the funeral

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:43.840
<v Speaker 2>of a teacher in one of the twenty six victims

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 2>at the Sandy Hook shooting on this day. You mentioned

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Paul Simon earlier, and that happened. Victorious Soto was a

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 2>first grade teacher and one of her favorite songs of

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 2>all time was Sound of Silence, and Paul Simon heard

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 2>about it and he sang at her funeral.

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>It didn't really interest you.

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Wow, And that is how we end this week in

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Music History. I promise you that we were going to

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 2>have to maybe cut this into two parts, but we

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.919
<v Speaker 2>somehow got it all in December fifteenth through the twenty first.

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>It's quite a whirlwind. Master of Music, Mayhem, and thank

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>you for another look at this week in music history,

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and thank you all for checking it out on the

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 1>Taking a Walk podcast