1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Are you ready, mister Mayhem. 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: Oh yes I am, Oh yes i am. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm Buzzsnight, the host of the Taken a Walk podcast, 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: and I'm so happy that you're here for another look 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: at this week in music history and master of music 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: Mayhem Harry Jacobs. What week are we looking at? 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: This is the week of December fifteenth through the twenty first. 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: Holy moly, you know, I distinctly remember last year we 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: were at this point. A year ago, we were about 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: a month or so into doing this. I had no 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: idea it would last a year right where. I think 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: we're both surprised by that. 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: By everything every day. 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: Is there anything that doesn't surprise you exactly? So, you know, 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: as we were thinking about this today, I was looking 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: back at the notes and I'm like, oh, buzz, maybe 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: we should just run a rerun or a best of 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: I was thinking these are really slow music weeks as 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: we as we get it into Christmas. But there's a 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: lot of information, you know, Claude dot Ai. I have 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: to tip my hat to them for the research help. 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: They're sponsor of the show, and they're they're a major 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: help in terms of researching and confirming things. And it's 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: just that. That's been a delight. But I've got a 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: lot of information. You know, the next two weeks, which 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: I thought were going to be slow, We've got a 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: lot of stuff going on, a lot of stuff I 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: was unaware of. 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: So we'll we'll have to parcel it out and maybe 30 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: minimize the amount of Connie Francis references because it's Christmas time. 31 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: Oh, here we go, Here we go. You think I'm 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: going Connie Francis. You're wrong, my friend. I think I 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: may have to leave you with a cliffhanger for the 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: week of the fifteenth, when we may have to break 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: up the week of the fifteenth to the twenty first 36 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: into two parts. Let's get it rolling. December fifteenth, John 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: Lennon and the Yoko the Plastic ownA band with George 38 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: Harrison and Air Clapton and others, played the UNISEF charity 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: in London. This has happened in you know, nineteen seventy three. 40 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: I think this was his last appearance in the United Kingdom. 41 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: I think about a while to think about that. Yeah, boy, 42 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: I would have loved to have been a fly in 43 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: the world for that. 44 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: Oh can you imagine? Do they know it's Christmas? Entered 45 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: the UK charts at number one. We've had this conversation 46 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: biggest selling single in the United Kingdom of all time, 47 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: George Michael and Sting and Bono and Phil Collins and 48 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: a host of others, and. 49 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: I still love hearing it. I mean, I don't race 50 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: towards the dial to turn the dial if I'm listening 51 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: to a Christmas station and that song comes on, like 52 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: I do with some songs. 53 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: Right, I was speaking speaking at Christmas. I was watching 54 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: an interview with this guy's name Graham Norris, the guy 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: from London. You know what I'm talking about. 56 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like he's English, but no, I know. 57 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: I think that's who he is. Anyway, he had Jennifer 58 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 2: Laurie song. She was on at the same time Springsteen 59 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: was on, and he asked her a question and he said, 60 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: you know, you have a favorite song that cheers you 61 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: up when you're on a movie set or you're feeling lonely, 62 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: doesn't matter what time of year it is, And it's 63 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: a Springsteen song. And and they literally were asking Bruce 64 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: to guess what the song might be. They use the 65 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 2: word jolly, Well, will it makes her feel jolly? Makes 66 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: me feel jolly every time, and I'm thinking that would 67 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: be a dead giveaway for Santa Claus's coming to town. 68 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: I think so. I think it is a dead giveaway. 69 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: I can hear that song anytime, anywhere and be. 70 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: Happy, no disrespect to when I say jolly. 71 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, or how jolly Christmas, that's right, that's right. 72 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: So at any rate, that's that's Jennifer Lawrence's favorite, cheer 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: her up kind of song. 74 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: I love her. 75 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: I've seen him play that in the summer. I saw 76 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: him play that somewhere in July. It was funny if 77 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: people were throwing the Santa hats up and he said, 78 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 2: let's do it. Nineteen seventy nine, Pink Floyd started a 79 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: five week run at number one on the UK charts, 80 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: and this led to the band's only number one single 81 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: the album was The Wall and Another Brick in the 82 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: Wall Part two was the song their only song that 83 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: made it to number one. And this was such an 84 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: interesting album for so many reasons. I can tell you 85 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: that this morning, twice this morning, I listened to that 86 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: album all the way through the double album. I just 87 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: I wanted to get back into it. I knew we 88 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: were going to talk about it, I realized that, you know, 89 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: I knew this like we all do, that there were, 90 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: you know, three different sections of Another Brick in the Wall, 91 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: Part one, Part two, and part three, and I went 92 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: specifically to listen to those three different parts. Initially I 93 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 2: think my favorite is Another Brick. Part one really dark, creepy, 94 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: but the song ends up rocking out. Part two was 95 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: the whole how can you have any meat if you 96 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: don't have your pudding right? We don't need no education. 97 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: And number three was the darkest of the of the three. 98 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: And and it was one of those things. One of 99 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: the lyrics is I don't need no arms around me, 100 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: I don't need no drugs to calm me. It was 101 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 2: this the guy, the protagonist, the pig, three stages of 102 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: grief and trauma in his life. It's a very dark 103 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: when you look at when you get down the rabbit 104 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: hole of what the Wall was all about. It's a 105 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: very dark album. And and that song, the three different, 106 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: three different you know it takes Another Brick part are 107 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: the three different parts one, two, and three, all very different, 108 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 2: but all three really dark. 109 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: When I put my Psychosis playlist together, that album is 110 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: at the height of it. 111 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: There's someone that that was damaged writing writing that album. 112 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: Roger twenty one a guy we owe a tip of 113 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: the hat to his birthday Alan Freed was born. He 114 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: actually coined the phrase rock and roll. But we all 115 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 2: know him a little tip of the hat. We wouldn't 116 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: be doing what we're doing today without him. 117 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: That's right, Minus the fact that he got messed up 118 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: in the Paola side of things. 119 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: You know, I forgot all about that. But he was 120 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: a part of that, wasn't he, So I believe Yeah, 121 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: for those that are unaware, Paola Plugola is when record 122 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: companies or artists went to the disc jockeys who in 123 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: those days were making decisions about songs that were getting played. 124 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: And Alan Freed took a bunch of money from the 125 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: record companies. 126 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: But we do owe him, and to your point, a 127 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: debt of gratitude. 128 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: Right nineteen seventy seven, who played a surprise show for 129 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: the documentary The Kids Are All Right. There's a you know, 130 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: a scene in that movie where they're playing, you know, 131 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: in a very small venue, and that was the Shepperton 132 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: Studios that was used for the documentary, and they it 133 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: was basically an audience made up of fan club members 134 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: for that show. That's quite a prize, right, pretty Neat 135 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: two thousand and one, Joe Walsh received an honorary doctorate 136 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: of Music from Kent State. I was unaware that it's 137 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: doctor Joe Walsh, but it is doctor Joe. 138 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: Walsh and Ken State too. 139 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, the song Ohio the Violence in seventy two, No, no, 140 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: before that had to be before that. 141 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have been sixty eight. I was gonna 142 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: say sixty eight or nine. 143 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sixty eight or sixty nine. Song came out. 144 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: Ohio came out right away, But a long way around 145 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: for Joe Walsh getting his doctorate. I'm surprised that we 146 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: never heard that. I'm surprised he didn't take that name 147 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: and you know, or take that title and add it to, 148 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: you know, to his name. Dr wolfsh absolutely. Dr two 149 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: thous Presume you're not a doctor, you're a dentist. From 150 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: the Hangover two thousand and three, Courtney Love sentenced to 151 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: eighteen months in rehab after she admitted she was under 152 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: the influence of coke and various opiates. I saw her 153 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: around that time. Our friend Billy Bush was here in 154 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: town to do something. I remember where we were at 155 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 2: the UNLV the auditorium there where they have shows their arena, 156 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: and we I did something with Billy around Beyonce and 157 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: jay Z who were at that show. But I remember 158 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: seeing Courtney Love there. I was struck by how enormous 159 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: she was in high heels. I mean, she was taller 160 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: and I'm over six feet and she was significantly taller 161 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: than I was, as I recall, and she was just 162 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 2: a disaster. I think it's fair to say once she 163 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: walked by, yeah sad, you know. Yeah, I could smell 164 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: the pills coming off of her. It was it was set. 165 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: I think her life is together these days, maybe maybe not. 166 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: Luckily we haven't heard much, so I think maybe it is. 167 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: But listen, you know that deep loss, you know, never 168 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: never loves her for sure, It's get carried through her 169 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: entire life. So you know you do have to have, 170 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, empathy for. 171 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: Loss, you know, get a little you know, a little 172 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: Kurt Kobain coming up to talk about as well, so 173 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: we'll touch on that. But yeah, very sad sequence of 174 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: events that led her down her road of self destruction, No, 175 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: no other way to put it. Elton John hitting number 176 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: one on the fifteenth in the UK was sorry. It 177 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: seems to be the hardest word. Really. I'm a fan 178 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: of those ballad the long ballads, Sorry and Tiny Dancer 179 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: and leave On. Just the softer kind of Elton from 180 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: that period of time, you know, those longer ballads. Yeah, 181 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 2: even I like the. 182 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: Old Yeah, the older versions. I think the Disney version 183 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: of Elton it wasn't my favorite part, by the way. 184 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: Brief sidebar relating to to Elton, uh and to Paul McCartney. 185 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: We finally saw the spinal Tap reboots. 186 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: Uh. 187 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: Paul rob Reiner was on the show and Elton plays 188 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: a prominent role in it, as does Paul McCartney too, 189 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: So it's totally worth seeing. You know, I didn't know 190 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: even though I loved having Rob on. Listen, I'm calling 191 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: him Rob. Yeah, I I love having loved having them on, 192 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: But it's definitely worth seeing. 193 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: That's fantastic. I have not seen it, and I will 194 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: take the assignment and I will watch it. Unlike you, 195 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: you don't always take the movie assignments for me, but 196 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: I guess in this arrangement, I work for you, So 197 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 2: I will watch it and report were Back in nineteen ninety, 198 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: Rod Stewart married Supermodel with Rachel Hunter. He was famously 199 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: quoted as saying, this is one of the most misogynistic 200 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: quotes ever in the history of misogynistic statements, that he 201 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: would no longer be putting his banana in anybody's fruit 202 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: bowl from then on. 203 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: They divorced. He's awful soul. 204 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: No. Nineteen eighty eight, Summer fifteen, James Brown sentenced to 205 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: six years in prison for various offenses, including a firearms 206 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: offense and also resisting arrest. Mister Brown was uncooperative when 207 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: authority showed up. He was waving the gun around. 208 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: He probably meant, well, I don't know. I don't know 209 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: what he meant, and I don't think he knows what 210 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: he meant at that time. 211 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 2: No. December sixteenth, nineteen sixty six, Hey Joe was released 212 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: by Jimmy Hendrick Jimmy Hendrick Experience. It was on Pollardor 213 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: That song. Three years later was the close out for 214 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: his set at Woodstock. 215 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: Did a great version of that Oh there you go Yeah. 216 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty three Pete Towns and announced he was leaving 217 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: the WHO. It's a big deal at the time. Now, 218 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 2: I don't know how many farewell tours later, all due 219 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: respect to Pete and Roger. 220 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: I know it's incredible, what a what a what a. 221 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: Couple of they are, and I don't know if they're 222 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 2: you know, I always like to kind of get a 223 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: little bit of information and insight into what people what 224 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: the relationship was like, you know, Jagger and Richards and 225 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: Lennon and McCartney, and I think with with these guys, 226 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: you know, I just wonder, you know, what the what 227 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 2: the relationship was like between them. I never heard much 228 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: about arguing or disagreeing. I know, you know, Roger needed 229 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: to continue to tour, he wanted the wanted and needed 230 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: the money. But I never heard much in the way 231 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: of content. 232 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: Well, look, I have another assignment for you relating to 233 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: a band situation or you know, two partners in music situation. 234 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: It's fantastic this documentary it's called in Restless Dreams The 235 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: Music of Paul Simon. And there's two Paul Simon documentaries 236 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: that came out. There was the other one was Hulu 237 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: and this one we just recently watched. And boy, oh boy, 238 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: you get tremendous insight into that question. I'll just leave 239 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: it at that because you will see it in very 240 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: harsh terms with our garb uncle. 241 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: It's on my list. I came across it the other night. 242 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: I had watched something musical and then in the list 243 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: of suggested shows after that the Paul Simon thing, and 244 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: I need to watch it. 245 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, fabulous, And you really gain greater appreciation for him. 246 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: And he's got a hearing issue which is preventing him, 247 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: you know, from playing and some more singing. But for both, 248 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: I mean, if you can't hear, yeah, you sing so sad. 249 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: But I'm looking forward to seeing it. I want to 250 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: try to watch it over the coming days and check 251 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: that out. In nineteen ninety three, on December sixteenth, Nirvana's 252 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: Unplugged concert air on MTV. This was a big deal. 253 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: This was one of Cobain's last performances. This is what 254 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: I was alluding to a few minutes ago when we 255 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: were talking about Courtney. He died on April eighth of 256 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four, and the prior week he had escaped rehab. 257 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: So I don't know if you remember the sequence of events, 258 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: but when you know the situation, the circumstances around his 259 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: death were very cloudy. April first, he escaped from rehab 260 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: two days after checking in and then he was found, 261 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: you know, on the eighth and in his suicide note 262 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: he used the words over the line, better to burn 263 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: out than fade away. Neil Young, Right, he part of 264 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: the twenty seven club. Kurt Cobain. 265 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and unbelievable and yeah, that MTV performance was you know, 266 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: words can't describe it. 267 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And if folks are curious about that, you've got 268 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: a great segment where Rob Barnett joined you to talk 269 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: about that. Rob Barnett, who was, you know, one of 270 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: the big wigs for MTV for a period of time 271 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: and he was a great guest. So folks cancerts that up. 272 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. And Danny Goldberg too, the manager of Nirvana, actually 273 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: is part of the great great episode. 274 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: Had taken a walk. And in two thousand and five, 275 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: the remaining members of the Beatles began their legal action 276 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: against EMI on behalf of their interests in Apple. They 277 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: sued for I believe about thirty million dollars that they 278 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: thought was owed that EMI had Pilford from them. 279 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy just to think about that? 280 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: And now in this day and age, when you think 281 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 2: about the money that they thought they were owed and 282 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: we continue to have this discussion about streaming and album 283 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: sales and records in the record business. It's just they're 284 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: worth nothing. It would be worth nothing, you know at 285 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: this point, even though there's value in the catalog. That 286 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: what would that lawsuit have looked like today, you know, 287 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: twenty years twenty twenty one years later. 288 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: It's crazy to think about it. Yep. 289 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: Nineteen forty nine. Billy Gibbons, the Reverend Willie g As 290 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: he refers to himself, one of my favorite guitar players. 291 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: He was number thirty two on the twenty eleven Rolling 292 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: Stone list of best Guitar Players of all time, was born. 293 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: This is his birthday. Also on this day, this is 294 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: I never even heard this story. Same day Billy is 295 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: celebrating his birthday, Dusty is unpacking his car, either looking 296 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: deliberately for his Darringer pistol or it just falls out 297 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: of the car, but he inadvertently shoots himself in the 298 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 2: gut with his derringer pistol, and then he drove himself 299 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 2: to the hospital. 300 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, he obviously he can't make this, sup he 301 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: would he would go on to that way some years later. 302 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, that that happened to Dusty. Nineteen sixty seven 303 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: Big Day for Credence. Five singles and five albums were 304 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: certified gold literally on the same day. For Cretans, the 305 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: songs were down on a Corner looking out my back door, 306 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: traveling band Bad Moon up around the Bend, and then 307 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: the albums were Cosmos Factory, William, The Poor Boys, Green River, 308 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 2: Bayou Country, and the self titled Credence Clear Water Album. 309 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: So ten ten times the gold records in one day 310 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 2: for John Folgune Company, Big Day on this day in 311 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: nineteen seventh year, nineteen seventy three, seventeen seventy three, some 312 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: guys did a thing. Members of the Sons of Liberty 313 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: boarded three British cargo ships in Boston Harbor and they 314 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: dumped three hundred and forty two chests of tea into 315 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: the ocean. It's by the way, it's alleged this was 316 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: a quiet attack on the British. They actually swept up 317 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 2: their mess on the deck, so the British didn't even 318 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: know right away. It was this thing that happened under 319 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: the cover of darkness, and they cleaned their mess up 320 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: and then split. 321 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know that about the story. Wow, that's crazy. 322 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: Seventeenth nineteen seventy seven, Elvis Costello was on Saturday Night Live. 323 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember the story around this, 324 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: but he was supposed to play a couple of songs. 325 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: Sex Pistols were the original guests. There was a visa 326 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: prop that I think Laurene offered it to the Ramones. 327 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 2: After that, the Ramones said no, and then they went 328 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: to Elvis, who had just released My Am Is True, 329 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: and the song that they wanted him to play, the 330 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 2: label wanted him to play was less than Zero. So Elvis, 331 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: during rehearsal, plays the song and then he realizes that 332 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: the song is just too somber, it's too down. It's 333 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 2: it's just a it's a downer for Saturday Night Live, 334 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: twelve o'clock at night on a Saturday night. So when 335 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: it's his time to come out and play, he plays 336 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: a couple of bars of less than zero, and then 337 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: he said he basically stops the band and announces to 338 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: the audience that that song is just too down, too somber, 339 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: and then he goes rip it into radio radio. Yeah, 340 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: I do recall that. 341 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a great I'm standing tools and the 342 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: story was legend would have it that he was banned 343 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 3: forever from Saturday Night Live, and that turned out to 344 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 3: not be true. 345 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 2: In nineteen eighty nine, he went back on twelve twelve 346 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: years later, he went back on and play So but 347 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 2: you know, great musical guest. And Elvis Costello is you know, 348 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: one of the the most underrated artists and writers of 349 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: our time. Springsteen, who we talk about often, has said 350 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: about Elvis Costello, we can't all be Elvis Costello, right, 351 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just so great. And by the way, 352 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: Elvis does a great version of She's the One. 353 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: Right. 354 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: He's a big Springsteen fan, and I love Elvis is 355 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: agent gracefully too. I would agree. He did a tour 356 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: and they stopped here in Vegas. I remember, if you 357 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: remember that, it was like a game show where he 358 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 2: spun the wheel. The wheel was on stage. 359 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I saw that. I saw that. 360 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: I've never seen him. I would like to see Elvis. 361 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: Oh he's great. 362 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: Is he like a Van Morrison, like Grumpy Moody, is 363 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: like one of those guys where you just feel the 364 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: energy is just, you know, not ideal. 365 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: I think he used to be more that way. I 366 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: don't perceive it this way now. 367 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: He's still active, he's still playing, he's still out there. 368 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so creating. Yeah. 369 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: In eighty two, who played the last show of that 370 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 2: farewell one of many farewell tours as we talked about 371 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 2: at the Toronto Maple Leaf Gardens And this was actually 372 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: part of a TV special called Who's Last. You keep 373 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: waiting for these things to show up on Amazon or whatever, 374 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: these little gems. I'm sure. 375 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll be out there at some point. Yeah, 376 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: they will. 377 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 2: December eighteenth. Zz Tops first album was released nineteen seventy one. 378 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: I'm a fan. I've always been a fan. I've got, 379 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: you know, I think a good personal history with zz Top, 380 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 2: just if nowhere else in my own mind centrum nineteen 381 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: eighty two on the Eliminator tour, drinking Schlitz beer backstage 382 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 2: with the great Paul Lemmier and three of my buddies 383 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 2: from high school, and you know, just a just you know, 384 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: three guys that make a lot of noise, that sound great. 385 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: It's just a great show. That first album, though I 386 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: don't know a thing about any of it. The songs 387 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: are shaking your Tree, Brown Sugar, I don't think I mean, 388 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: they do a version of Jailhouse Rock the Elvis, but 389 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: that wasn't on an album. Squank going to Mexico, old Man, Neighbor, Neighbor, 390 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff that I don't know. Backdoor Love 391 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 2: Affair may be the only like deep cut that I'm 392 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: aware of from that that album, But that was the 393 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: first album nineteen seventy one. December eighteenth, it Zeazy Top. 394 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 2: Keith Richards in nineteen eighty three, at forty years old, 395 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: married Patty Hanson. This is also an interesting day because 396 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: he chose to marry Patty Hanson on his birthday. Who 397 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 2: does that on their birthday? I believe, and he married. 398 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: He married up too, of course, but I would believe 399 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: that if there was some sort of, you know, psychological 400 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: examination done on this, this would be considered in this 401 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 2: day and age, maybe narcissistic behavior. Possibly You've got to 402 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: have your birthday on our wedding day. Like can you 403 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 2: imagine the what I mean, You're married for a long time. 404 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 2: I was married twice. I wasn't good at it, but 405 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: I can just imagine one of my ex wives saying, 406 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: why would you choose your birthday as our wedding day? 407 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: Exactly? 408 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: And that would be the end of that conversation we 409 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 2: moved it would be over yeah, oh yeah. Nineteen eighty two, 410 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: Bob Dylan made his movie debut. This was a Pat 411 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: Garrett and Billy the Kid. The big song that came 412 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 2: out of this was Knocking on Heaven's Door part of 413 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: the soundtrack. James Coburn, so familiar. Another guy with a 414 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: great voice, right remember you know his voice big had 415 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: a white hair. And Chris Christofferson both in that movie 416 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: with Dylan, and the movie doesn't tickle anything in particular 417 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 2: inside of me. I guess I got to go back 418 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 2: and watch it, but I don't think it was one 419 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: of those that you know, goes down in history. Is 420 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: you know something you got to see. 421 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: Kind of a spaghetti western. Just the fact that Bob 422 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: was in it was made it cool. And Christofferson it's 423 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: but it's a spaghetti western, you know. 424 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. And pop culture and nine Avatar premiered. One of 425 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: the things I just saw on social media was Matt 426 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: Damon talking about things the roles he turned down that 427 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: he should have never turned down. And he says it 428 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: like shaking his head. He said, he said no to Avatar, 429 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: No boy, he said no to that lead role for 430 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: a percentage. December nineteenth, nineteen seven. We've all done We've 431 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 2: all done shit like that. December nineteenth, nineteen seventy. Your 432 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: song by Elton John hits the Billboard Hot one hundred. 433 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: This is an interesting thing because this show at the 434 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: Troubadour earlier that year and in August, I think August 435 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: twenty fifth of nineteen seventy, Elton does the show at 436 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: the Troubadour. By the by Christmas time, the song goes 437 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: number one. But that show at the Troubadour is one 438 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 2: of those things that will live on in infamy. The 439 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 2: Beach Boys several members of the Beach Boys were there. 440 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,959 Speaker 2: Levon Helm was their record executives. Neil Diamond was in 441 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 2: the crowd for that show, and that was one of 442 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 2: those where you know, the La Times said, you know, 443 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 2: they basically crowned him, you know, the next celebrity, the 444 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: must see artists. But a legendary show. And to watch 445 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: the clips and hear stuff, you know, a couple of 446 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 2: tracks from that it was, you know, it sounds great 447 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: still to this day, it sounds great. In seventy five, 448 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: Ronnie Wood joined the Stones. Ronnie Wood not just a 449 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 2: great guitar player, and musician, but also an amazing artist. 450 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen the set list that 451 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 2: he draws before after the Stones show. 452 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you a terrible story. I got his 453 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: book that depicts his artwork from him and he doodled 454 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: and created some additional little art work. I can't find 455 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: the freaking thing. Oh that's awful. I can't find it. 456 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: It's one like I can find everything, but that I 457 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: can't find it for the life of me. 458 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 2: M And don't you there Ask your wife because there 459 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 2: will be some sort of response there. 460 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: Oh she's she knows too, she's asked the same questions. 461 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: Oh, she's looked forward to you know. Yeah, but there's 462 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: you don't get the what did you do with it? 463 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 2: Where did you leave it? 464 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: No, it was it was from being in Columbus running 465 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: into him and and and I can't freaking find it. 466 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: He he sells that his beautiful artwork. They do it 467 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 2: through the website, but there are art galleries that that 468 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 2: offer it up as well. But his artwork is really 469 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 2: pretty fantastic, and he's he's one of the great guitar 470 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: players of our time as well. 471 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 472 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: Nineteen fifty five Carl Perkins wrote what would end up 473 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: becoming a rock and roll standard. Think about Blue Swaye Shoes, 474 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: think about you know, Elvis did a version of it, 475 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: Buddy Holly did a version of it. But if you 476 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 2: were in a cover band, you know, a rock band 477 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: in the sixties and seventies and even in the eighties, 478 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: you covered Blue Swaite shows, that's one of those songs 479 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 2: that like, it's like for a guitar player or a musician, 480 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: it's like, Johnny be good, you gotta know that song. Yeah, 481 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 2: it's a standard, a rock standard. In fifty seven, Elvis 482 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 2: while living at Graceland, I didn't realize how long he 483 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 2: has or how he long he did own Graceland. But 484 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: in fifty seven he was served with his draft papers 485 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 2: at Graceland. That's where the notice came. He ended up serving, 486 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: and he ended up in the thirty second I want 487 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 2: to get this right, the thirty second Tank Battalion, third 488 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: Armor Corps, based in Germany, where he served his time 489 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 2: in the army. 490 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: He looked good in a uniform, now. 491 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: Yeah he did. Yeah, he just you know, he was 492 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 2: a good looking guy. That sixty eight Elvius was arguably 493 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: probably the best to come back tour with the letter 494 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 2: suit and you know, the red guitar. It's probably the 495 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: best of Elvis. Soe twenty sixteen, this is interesting to me. 496 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 2: We were talking about charts and downloads and with the 497 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 2: Beatles and the money the lawsuit with the MII. The 498 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 2: official chart company announced that they were changing the way 499 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: that it calculated the top forty to reflect the rise 500 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: in streaming back in twenty sixteen. So we're going back 501 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: nine almost ten years. So here's the way it works. Currently, 502 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: one hundred streams is counted as one sale of a song. 503 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: So you know, we used to go buy music when 504 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: we were kids. You go buy a forty five or 505 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: buy an album, that counts as a sale. Now someone 506 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: has to have a song eemed one hundred times to 507 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: consider it the sale of a song. 508 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy. 509 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 2: Isn't that interesting? And then from January twenty seventeen, the 510 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: ratio would become one hundred and fifty to one, so 511 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty downloads equals the sale of a song. 512 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: And you know, it's. 513 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: Interesting to me how that's kind of we've never stopped me. 514 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: We're in this music thing here together talking about this 515 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: and it's never come up. It's very interesting to me 516 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 2: that that's how they thought that they would break the 517 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: bottleneck in the music industry with the charts and everything 518 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 2: else people, because songs were just hanging on forever. 519 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: It'll read the fine print, right, Yeah. 520 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: Twenty fifteen, Thriller became the first album to ever sell 521 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 2: thirty million copies, the runner up to this day biggest 522 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: selling album. The runner up is The Eagles' Greatest Hits 523 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: seventy one to seventy five, twenty nine million copies as 524 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: of today, Insane. In my garage, I have a sign 525 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: that a friend of mine gave me in Woolster in 526 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety or nineteen ninety one, and it was an 527 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: item he found at the Brimfield Fair and it was 528 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: and is this sign for Buffalo Springfield. It's a tractor plate, 529 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: so it's you know, it's you know, maybe a foot 530 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: and a half by a foot tall, and it's green 531 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: with white print, and it's from a Buffalo Springfield brand tractor. 532 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: That's where they got their name. And I have one 533 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: of those tractor plates in my garage. The thing weighs 534 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: a ton. Bring it by sometimes. Yeah, well, yeah, it's 535 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 2: easy I don't know if I get through security with that. 536 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 1: Probably not. 537 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy five, Joe Walsh replaced Berna leadon a recent 538 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: guest on taking a Walk. 539 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, he did go back to 540 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: the Eagles for a run, so they were on friendly 541 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: enough terms there. But are they still Are they still okay? 542 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: I think so. I think it's all you know, this 543 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: reconciliations or whatever. Yeah, it seems like, who knows, what 544 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: do I know? 545 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: I let's see. Just like starting Over, the John Lennon 546 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: song from the Double Fantasy added up hitting number one. 547 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: This happened at a time it was just literally right 548 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: after his death. It was less than two weeks after 549 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 2: he was shot in front of the Dakota. But that 550 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: was his first and only number one song. It's just 551 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: like starting Over. 552 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful song and a heartbreaking loss, you know. 553 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of things for the Stones on this day. 554 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy one, they released Hot Rocks Great double 555 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: album Greatest Hits Collection. It was one of the first 556 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: albums I remember having as a kid. I think I 557 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: grabbed it from my parents, from my father. And also 558 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 2: in sixty nine, Let It Bleed hit the top of 559 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: the charts, so sixty nine and seventy one Big Days. 560 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: By the way, Let It Bleed was the last album 561 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: with Brian Jones. He was fired midway through Let It Bleed, 562 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: and if you'll excuse my crass comment, he ended up, 563 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: you know, being found face down on the pool, his pool. 564 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: Mick Jones joined to replace him, and that's a story 565 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: with those two Stones albums and Brian Jones Man nineteen 566 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: forty seven, two birthdays, nineteen forty seven, nineteen forty eight, 567 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: nineteen forty seven. Peter Chris, drummer from Kiss, Gene Simmons, 568 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: after the recent passing of Ace, freely has talked kind 569 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: of openly about how the band treated Peter and Ace, 570 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: you know, during the eighties after they were essentially sent 571 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: packing out of the band. I knew Ace had his issues, 572 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: I didn't realize Peter did as well. But there was 573 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: a time where Gene was just kind of inconsiderate in 574 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: terms of the way he did by his own admission, 575 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 2: about the way he talked about Ace and Peter. And 576 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: I think since Ace is passing, he's come out and 577 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: he said, listen, we didn't do enough as a band 578 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: to take care of these guys. We weren't as patient 579 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: as we should have been there. I mean, there was 580 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: obviously unreliability. Both Peter and Ace, you know, were late 581 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: or didn't show up for rehearsals. And you know, Jean 582 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: and Paul are guys that don't drink or don't do 583 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 2: any drugs, and I think it was probably trying on 584 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: them to have these two important members of the band 585 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: that were under in the clutches of alcohol and drugs 586 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: at the time. So Alan Parsons nineteen forty eight, famous musician, 587 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: probably the I would think, maybe one of the most 588 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: well known projects. He may not be well known for 589 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: it to those that don't pay attention to the weeds 590 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: kind of stuff, but a producer for Dark Side of 591 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 2: the Moon. 592 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, think about his career, you know, the 593 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: production excellence, career as a solo artist. Just a great 594 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: respect for him. 595 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked in the past. I shared with you 596 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: that I interviewed him maybe nineteen ninety seven or ninety 597 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: eight on July fourth, and I remember the conversation specifically 598 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: because I had asked him our friend George Taylor Morris 599 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: was starting to talk about Dark Side of the Moon 600 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: and Wizard of Oz and I asked Alan Parsons about that, 601 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: and I can't think of another time I felt like 602 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,959 Speaker 2: such an idiot where I put my foot in my mouth. 603 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: But he didn't know a thing about it. He claimed 604 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: to be unaware of the connection at that point in time. 605 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 1: Believe him too. 606 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's no reason to lot, no reason exactly. No. 607 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 2: This is an interesting day that December twenty first, our 608 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: next day. This was a day that in nineteen seventy, 609 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 2: Elvis drove from Graceland to Washington. His first stop in Washington. 610 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 2: I want to get this right because they're no longer 611 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 2: called by this name. The Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous 612 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 2: Drugs was around at that time under Tricky Dick. So 613 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 2: Elvis shows up at this agency and pleads with them 614 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: that he can help with the war on drugs. Right, 615 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 2: this was before Nancy Reagan's War on drugs. This was, 616 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 2: you know, nineteen seventy. So they basically show them the door. 617 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 2: They're like, you know, what are you going to do? 618 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 2: We're not interested. He wanted a badge, he wanted to 619 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 2: be named and you know, an agent in fighting the 620 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 2: war on drugs. So he gets turned down by this group, 621 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 2: and then he goes to the White House with a 622 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 2: six page letter for Nixon and wants to be seen 623 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: by Nixon, so he asks to be named a special agent. 624 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: He asks for a badge. I never heard this, Like, 625 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 2: I'm reading this story this morning. I'm like, how do 626 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: we not know this? It's such good information. So it's juicy, 627 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: it really is. So the government agency, the Bureau of 628 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 2: Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs, takes a hard pass. Elvis is 629 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: able to talk Nixon into it. Nixon gives him a badge. 630 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 2: Elvis gives Nixon a gun, a cult forty five from 631 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: the war, like a trade. You give me a badge, 632 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: I give you a gun. And then that famous picture 633 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 2: was taken. It seems like I almost always see the 634 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 2: black and white version, but Elvis in that picture is 635 00:36:52,800 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 2: wearing this purple vlure or velvet jumpsuit, shaken Nixon's hand. Classic, 636 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: it's one of That picture is one of the most 637 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 2: requested photographs still to this day in the US National Archives. 638 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: Interesting, it's a classic. 639 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 2: A couple more, yeah, A couple more quick ones to 640 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 2: wrap this up. Born in the USA passed thriller to 641 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: hit seventy nine weeks on the charts, and which Taal 642 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 2: lineman hit the top two hundred. Glenn Campbell's only number 643 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 2: one and the Billboard Charts ever, and there's an appreciation 644 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 2: I have for him and we all should have. And 645 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: we'll talk more next week about that Beahemian Raps that 646 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 2: he hit number one in ninety one after Freddie Mercury's death. 647 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 2: And Paul Simon performed Sound of Silence at the funeral 648 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 2: of a teacher in one of the twenty six victims 649 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 2: at the Sandy Hook shooting on this day. You mentioned 650 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 2: Paul Simon earlier, and that happened. Victorious Soto was a 651 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 2: first grade teacher and one of her favorite songs of 652 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 2: all time was Sound of Silence, and Paul Simon heard 653 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 2: about it and he sang at her funeral. 654 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: It didn't really interest you. 655 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 2: Wow, And that is how we end this week in 656 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: Music History. I promise you that we were going to 657 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: have to maybe cut this into two parts, but we 658 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 2: somehow got it all in December fifteenth through the twenty first. 659 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: It's quite a whirlwind. Master of Music, Mayhem, and thank 660 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: you for another look at this week in music history, 661 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: and thank you all for checking it out on the 662 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk podcast