1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Well, now it's time for our daily Bloomberg lobbrare for 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: exploring legal issues in the news, and today Bloomberg lahst 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Greg Stewart discuss his President Trump's constitutional powers and taking 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: military action against North Korea, and whether he would need 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: congressional approval for a large scale attack overseas. She speaks 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: with Elias Souman, a professor at the George Mason University 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: and an Inscalia law school. Let me just start with 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: the core constitutional question. Could Donald Trump legally order a 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: preemptive attack on North Korea without getting congressional authorization? I 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: think not? In west perhaps the North Korean attack was 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: imminent because the Constitution makes it clear that only Congress 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: has the power to authorize the initiation of a war. However, 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: it's possible that despite its unconstitutionality, Trump could potentially get 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: away with starting a war without congressional authorization because adhering 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: to that constitutional principle has been spotty in recent years 16 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: in footing under President Obama. Let's let's get into some 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: of that history in a moment. If it were a 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: smaller scale strike, is that something that that Trump could 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: could do without going to Congress first? I think there's 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: room for legitimate debate over that. Some people would argue, 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: and I tend to agree with this, that there might 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: be small scale military actions that fall short of a war, 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: and then perhaps the president could undertake them on their own, 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: maybe his strike on Syria a few months ago as 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: an example of this. Others, however, argued that any attack 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: kind of foreign power, even a very small one, qualifies 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: as an act of war, and if it's done to 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 1: start a conflict rather than in reaction to an enemy 29 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: attack or two like, then uh, it's a war and 30 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: Congress have to authorize it. One thing North Korea has 31 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: threatened is this idea of launching missiles that would land 32 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: near Guam. Would that be enough to allow the president 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: to respond without having to get something some thursdation from Congress. 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: It's an interesting case, as would almost steady legal principle, 35 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: They're going to be borderline situations which may be hard 36 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: to categorize. I would very tentatively say that if the 37 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: strike on Guam looked like it was likely intended to 38 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: actually hit Guam, then that's an act of war and 39 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: Trump currently could respond to any president could respond if, 40 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: on the other hand, it seems pretty clear that all 41 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: North Korea is doing is landing missiles in international waters. 42 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: That's provocative and I advised act, but in itself wouldn't 43 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: count as a war because all sorts of governments have 44 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: war games and military exercises and international waters all the time. 45 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: That's I yes, so Men, a professor at the George 46 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 1: Mason University ended in Scalia Law School, speaking with Bloomberg 47 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: Law hose Greg Store. 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