1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noone Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: It is a Tuesday. Welcome in. There is a lot 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: going on. We are live. 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: It is the. 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: Herd wherever you may be, however you may be watching, 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: or listening or downloading. Thanks for making us part of 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: your day. You know we're getting into injury reports now. 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: Jmac are very crucial for quarterbacks and perspective because people 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: are going crazy on stuff. I think we would both 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: agree the two best rookie quarterbacks because I remember John Elway, 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: but I don't remember a game by game. The two 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: best rookie quarterbacks I've ever seen here Andrew Luck who 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: won eleven games with a bad roster and didn't never 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: write coach, didn't never write GM, didn't never write O line, 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: didn't never write anything. And then Jayden Daniels last year 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: who you know ends up in the NFC Championship. I mean, 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: those guys looked just unbelievable. Bo Nicks was good. Jayden Daniels, 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, there were times here like he's the third 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: fourth best quarterback in the league. So sometimes we lack perspective. 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: And yesterday Mike Sando, who will be joining us in 29 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: a couple hours, he came out with his annual survey 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: of fifty NFL executives. It's called Quarterback Tiers, And it 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: should be noted that Jade and Daniels, the rookie got 32 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: thirteen more Tsier one votes and the rest of his 33 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: division combined because Jalen Hurts got three and Deck got one. 34 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: But it is interesting. Here's where it's different from Andrew Luck. 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels got some breaks. Number one, he didn't go 36 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: to Chicago. They can't get quarterback right. Number two, he 37 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: didn't get a coach on the hot seat. Number three, 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: he didn't get the oldest and arguably strangest ownership group 39 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,279 Speaker 1: in the NFL, the mccaskey's. 40 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: That stuff matters. 41 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: Instead, he goes to Washington and his looney owner got 42 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: flushed out at the end of that last season. So 43 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: he gets a new owner, new GM, new coach, new momentum, 44 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: new culture, with a very very mature number one wide receiver. 45 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: And he wasn't the number one pick. He was the 46 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: number two pick. And we always spend more time talking 47 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: about the number one pick. So I'm not saying he 48 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: landed in Kansas City like with Andy Reid and Mahomes, 49 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: But ask yourself this. And I love Jayden Daniels, but 50 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: this is where Andrew Luck has n't beat. Think about 51 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: the winningest quarterbacks in the last several years in the NFL, Mahomes, Lamar, 52 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Jaden Hurts, Jordan Love. What do they have 53 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: in common? None of them entered the league in chaos. 54 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: Here's who did, Bryce Young, Caleb Williams, Justin Herbert, Trevor 55 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: Lawrence not so shockingly, they've had bumpier roads and more turbulence. 56 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: I mean a great example is Bo Nicks. Half the 57 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: GM's were not high on him. He gets Sean Payton 58 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: a good old line, he looks great. Caleb Williams everybody 59 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: kind of thought he was special, bad everything. Coach coordinators 60 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: a line he looks completely lost. So don't undervalue even 61 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: for somebody as good as Jaden Daniels. Don't undervalue how 62 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: many breaks he got. I mean the owner sharp, the 63 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: general manager Adam Peters, super sharp. Cliff Kingsbury may not 64 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: be a head coach, excellent coordinator. The O line PFF 65 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: had at ranked number ten, a mature receiver at number one, 66 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: and even if he wasn't mature, he's a number one 67 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: receiver and a very worle schedule. 68 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: Remember this. 69 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels only one time last year beat a playoff team, 70 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: and that was against Philadelphia when Jalen Hurts got hurt, 71 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: and most. 72 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: Of the game he faced Kenny Pickett. 73 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: So if you look at the quarterbacks he beat, it 74 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: was Daniel Jones twice, Kyler, Marie DeShawn Watson. In the 75 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: disaster in Cleveland, Andy Dalton, Caleb Williams, Will Levis, Jake Han, 76 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: Michael Penix, Trey Lance, and Kitty Pickett. He played Lamar 77 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: Baker and Jalen Hurts. 78 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: He lost. 79 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: He even lost to Russell Wilson, So two things can 80 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: be true. I think he's just tremendous player, but the 81 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: landing spot is really crucial. And what you think of 82 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: Washington is what a mess. They weren't a mess. They 83 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: had all new people. Remember before J Mack and I 84 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: argued about this. J Max said, how can you be 85 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: good with all that change? And I said, when all 86 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: the stuff you flushed out was awful and all the 87 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: new stuff is good, I am for change, and I 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: I've told you I thought he was going to look 89 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson, not quite as nimble athletically, but much 90 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: better in the pocket. 91 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: And that's what happened. 92 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: But do I think Jaden Daniels, if you put him 93 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: in Carolina would have been that? I do not where 94 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: you land really matters, so speaking of where you land, 95 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: So here's more bad news for the Niners, specifically a 96 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: wide receiver, Brandon Ayuk, who is their best deep threat 97 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: and the most talented wide receiver, is now reportedly going 98 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: to be back in a week six. So for the uninitiated, 99 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: those not paying attention, not playing fantasy football, let me 100 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: give you an update on the fairly important position for 101 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: a quarterback, the wide receiver unit for the Niners. Debo 102 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels has him now. Devo's gone, Brandon Ayuk can't 103 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: plan till week six. Juwan Jennings contract not happy, and 104 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: he's hurt. Ricky pearsall year two hit thirty one catches. 105 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: He's fine, he's not a one, he's probably a two ish. 106 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: And DeMarcus Robinson not a big volume guy. He may 107 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: be suspended to start the season. So basically, if Christian McCaffrey, 108 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: let's say, twists and ankle, the Great Rock Party will 109 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: have one of the weakest skill groups in the NFL. 110 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: And remember last year he was one in six against 111 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: playoff teams. But my take on this is, well, this 112 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: is real life in the NFL. This is not This 113 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: is not brock Perty's first twenty one games. People were healthy, 114 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: stacked roster, excellent defense, didn't have to win shootouts. He 115 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: was very good in his first twenty one starts, but 116 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: in his last fifteen starts it looks like this current 117 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver group. He's six to nine, twenty touchdown, twelve 118 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: picks and a passer rating in the mid nineties. Why 119 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: his teammates are older, they're brittle. They brought in Robert 120 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: Sola to help the defense, but green Law defunger are gone, 121 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: and outside of Bosa, they don't have any real dominant 122 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: players up front. So he's got to win more shootouts 123 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: and he doesn't have any many great players. When he 124 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: came into the league his first year as rookie, four 125 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: all pros just on offense. 126 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: This offense. 127 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: If Christian McCaffrey twists and ankle is not good, it's 128 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: George Kittle and cross your fingers because Ricky Pearsol's not 129 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: a one. Juwan Jennings is not happy and hurt. DeMarcus 130 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: Robinson isn't the answer regardless of the question. Brandon Aiyuk 131 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: week six at the earliest, and Debo's gone. And in 132 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: my take is in those last fifteen stars. 133 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: I looked up this this morning. 134 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 1: In eight games last season, when they asked Brock Purty, 135 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: bro you gotta throw at thirty plus times, he was 136 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: one in seven. So but that's the real life. It brought. 137 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: Perty's career reminds me a lot of des Bryant. Remember 138 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: when Dez came into the league thirteen and three rookie season, 139 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: best O line easily in the league. Zeke was arguably 140 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: the best running back and des Bryant was a bit 141 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: of a headache but was a touchdown machine. And then 142 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: by year two and three you needed Dak Prescott as 143 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: the O line. Aged Zeke aged Dez was gone, the 144 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: coaching was okay. Then you're like, we started all arguing 145 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: on what Dak was worth. And that's the stage I 146 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: believe we're going to be at by mid to late 147 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: October arguing about Brock. Perty we overvalued Dak and Brock early. 148 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: Then they struggled when deterioration age conflict. I mean San 149 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: Francisco once again been noisy in the offseason. 150 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: Green Bay quiet. 151 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:03,359 Speaker 1: So here here's Kyle Shanahan acknowledging they have an issue 152 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: at wide receiver. 153 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: What do you do? 154 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 4: This is a challenge. I meant, there's possibilities later, No 155 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: are guaranteed, but you know, and there's lots of things 156 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: that tied to that. Who's available, how much you're available 157 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 4: for and the situation our teams in salary cap wise 158 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 4: and stuff, and what we can't do. But yeah, we're 159 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 4: looking into everything. We'll always try to do the best, 160 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 4: but try not to just panic and do something to 161 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 4: survive a tough situation at the expense of what would 162 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 4: really hurt you later in this year and definitely next year. 163 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: By the way, over the next several years, Brock now 164 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: makes more money, so you just can't go shopping you 165 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: know at Walmart, you're just not getting those Walmart prices, right, 166 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: So all this stuff matters. Jaden Daniels my theme to 167 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: start the show today. Jaden Daniels had way more support 168 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: than you think because the Washington brand was so beat up. 169 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: You're like, what a circus. 170 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: No, wasn't easy schedule backup quarterbacks, not as much pressure 171 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: as a number two pick. Only beat one playoff team, 172 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: way beat Burrow. Yeah, it was early. A lot of 173 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: people beat Joe Burrow early, right, So when he played 174 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: Jalen and Baker and Lamar and all of a sudden 175 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: you got to win shootouts and maybe a trail, and 176 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: the coaching staffs are better. It's a whole different ballgame. 177 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: And brock Purty was overvalued early. He's probably a little 178 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: undervalued now by the critics, myself being one of them. 179 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: But this what he's dealing with, the wide receiver. That's 180 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: the real NFL. And for years I've said this about quarterbacks. 181 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: One of the advantages brock perty had at Iowa State. 182 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: It got him ready and prepared him for the NFL, 183 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: which is bad. Old lines running for your life often 184 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: have the second best coach or second best roster That's 185 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: why a lot of these bam MC quarterbacks they don't 186 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: do great in the NFL. They never trail, they get 187 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: great protection. The receivers are always wide open. That's not 188 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: preparing you for the NFL. North Carolina State, Miami of 189 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: Ohio quarterback at those schools, cal that's Iowa State. 190 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: That's preparing you for the NFL. 191 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: So Nick Wright stops by in about fifty minutes, you 192 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: see Tom Brady's talking about Bill Belichick. I am so 193 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: fired up for Bill Belichick. I feel it's so much 194 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: Jmack like Deon at Colorado. So Deon brings in a 195 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: new energy and a bunch of transfers, like it's a 196 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: bad program that didn't have success recruiting, and So Carolina 197 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: brings in a bunch of transfers, totally new energy. Thought 198 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: Jordan Hudson's story, it's got some youth that's got Belichick. 199 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: But Dion made his hay in the NFL as a player. 200 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: Belichick made his hay in the NFL as a coach 201 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: on Sundays, and they both opened with TCU. Dion blew 202 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:54,479 Speaker 1: them out. Belichick's an underdog. So is that TCU Carolina 203 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: is that labor day, weekend by day it is Oh, 204 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: it's Monday. I know what I'm leading with a Tuesday show. 205 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: Can't wait for it? 206 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 5: All right? 207 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 3: Coming up next? 208 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: Uh? The Cleveland Browns released a depth chart kind of 209 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: wonky if you ask me. 210 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,359 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 211 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: and Noone Eastern not a em Pacific on Fox Sports 212 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. Hi, this is Jay. 213 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 6: I'm the producer of the Paula and Tony Fusco Show. 214 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 6: Usually in these promos they asked you to listen to 215 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 6: the show. I'm here to ask you please don't listen 216 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 6: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who 217 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 6: have the dumbest takes on sports imaginable. Don't listen to 218 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 6: the show so it can get camp. 219 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: What the hell are you. 220 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: Doing our studio get him? 221 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 7: Ignore that fool. Listen to the Pauline Tony Fusco Show 222 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 7: on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 223 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: He's still moving. 224 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: Nick right top of the hour. 225 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: So I just said, I think in Belichick, you'd think 226 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: they're totally different. Going to college, very similar, they bring 227 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: a new energy. Both made their hay in NFL Football 228 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: and they both open with TCU. Belichick's an underdog. Dion 229 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: beat TCU in the opener. I just went back and 230 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: looked at it very close. He was a shootout. But 231 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: my question is there I think I've always believed there are. 232 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: I always had Rex Ryan would have been a really 233 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: good college coach. He's kind of a good looking guy 234 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: with a huge personality. He would have been a great recruiter. 235 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: I think Rex Ryan would have been a big now now, 236 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: I thought he was a little sloppy and light on 237 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: the details as an NFL coach, but he did have 238 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: a pretty good run. Let's be honest with the Jets. 239 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: He had a pretty good run. And I know Rex 240 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. He's a big person. I always thought 241 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: John Gruden would be an excellent college coach. He's got 242 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: just enough bs in the recruiting trail. John could recruit 243 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson, Pete Carroll and Jim Harball were great college 244 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: coaches and pro coaches, right. But the reason is they 245 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: can recruit their personalities and their culture setters, their tone setters. 246 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: They're not as much they're walk around guys more than 247 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: just scheme guys. Kyle Shanahan, Andy Reid, Sean Payton scheme guys. 248 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they'd like recruiting. I think they're like 249 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: sitting in a room and figuring out plays. And I 250 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: don't think they'd be as successful in college. And I 251 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: love Sean Payton, Andy Reid and Shanahan. Shanahan would have 252 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: no interest with boosters, no interest with an athletic director. 253 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: And I don't think Kyle would want to recruit much. 254 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: So that's my question with Belichick is that will his 255 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: brilliance be muted? And I like Elon Musk needs as 256 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: a genius, the freedom to be a genius. If you 257 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: put Elon Musk in a rigid corporate setting, he would 258 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: be the smartest guy at IBM and would go crazy. 259 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos at Amazon, he didn't even make He didn't 260 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: make a profit for the first twenty twenty one years. 261 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: He needed the freedom to explore the late architect Frank 262 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: Lloyd Wright. You don't want him b building DMV buildings, 263 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: right like sometimes the greater the intellect, they're mavericks. They're 264 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: risk takers because they have so much confidence in their ability. 265 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: And I think with Belichick, my question is if he's 266 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: smart enough, he's a brilliant guy, but like, how much 267 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: in a seventeen hour NCAA mandated work. 268 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: Week, how much can you teach? 269 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: And Tom Brady was on Joel Clap's podcast and talked 270 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: about that very thing. 271 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 7: What they're going to get is obviously the most prepared, 272 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 7: the most hard working coach that I'd ever been around. 273 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 7: If you go to that school, you will be prepared 274 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 7: to play at the next level. He's going to teach 275 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 7: you the right fundamentals, the right techniques, He's going to 276 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 7: have a high expectation for you, and you're going to 277 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 7: develop a lot. 278 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: That's what I know. 279 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 7: He is so smart with how he approaches defensive schemes 280 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 7: and offensive schemes and how much can these young kids retain? 281 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and also just tactically. 282 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: I mean, there have been NFL coaches that go to college, 283 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: and there's always been this perception that a college guy 284 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: can't go to the NFL. But Jim Harbaugh did and 285 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: had great success, and Jimmy Johnson didn't have success, and 286 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll didn't had success, And it's usually because they 287 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: could really recruit, they have a I mean, Pete Carroll's 288 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: Jimmy john I've been around Jimmy a lot. They've got 289 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: an energy, hardball when he comes on my show for 290 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: an interview. The last couple of them as a charger guy, 291 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: huge energy. And I think the guys that are more 292 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: intellects the wrong word, but more like football academics like 293 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: Andy Reid will not do joint practices. He won't let 294 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: you even look at any of his stuff. He doesn't 295 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: want any team at his practice. And Belichick is a brilliant, 296 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: brilliant football coach. But man, I got six kids in 297 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: my life at nineteen years old, they make weird choices. 298 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: They can frustrate you, especially as you age. 299 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 300 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 2: at noon Eastern non a em Pacific. 301 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: Here we go, it's hour two. It is a Tuesday. 302 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: It's great to be here today. I've said this before. 303 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: I've been very, very lucky. I've had really good management 304 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: around me for my entire life. For about a year 305 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: and a half two years in Tampa, I did not 306 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: It was a circus and that was the worst two 307 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: years of my career. So I've always and I probably 308 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: took it for granted in Vegas or Portland, but but 309 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, at the ESPN, I had good radio bosses. 310 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: At Fox has been great, I heeart. So I've been very, 311 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: very fortunate. But when you get bad management, which I 312 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: had for about two years in Tampa where and I've 313 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: told the stories a couple of times, there's a couple 314 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: of them that are just absurd, you really notice and 315 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: really appreciate good bosses. And so I had very good 316 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: I had very good teachers in high school, up of 317 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: great college professors. 318 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 3: I've I've been lucky. 319 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of good mentors, uh surrogate like 320 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: almost dads in my life, my coaches, So that that's 321 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: a big part of it. 322 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: And it's funny. 323 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: So Netflix has this new show called America's Team and 324 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: Emmett Smith is saying, yeah, we've had a real drought 325 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: in Dallas, and he kind of lets Jerry Jones off 326 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: the hook. 327 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: Here's the bite. 328 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 7: Jerry never called a patents Okay, he never ran the 329 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 7: ball and he d throw one right. 330 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 5: So at some point players got to take a little 331 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 5: ownership of what they've been trained and what they've been 332 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 5: taught to do. 333 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: We had to do it, I said, We went. 334 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 8: Back to back some clothes and then we lost that 335 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 8: leader and we was in disarrayed. 336 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 5: For for a year. 337 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so I totally disagree if I said to you, here, 338 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: here's seven or eight teams that just losing franchises, the Jets, 339 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: the Raiders, Cleveland, Carolina, Chicago, and Washington with Dan Snyder. 340 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: What do they all have in common? Do they all 341 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: always have bad coaches? No? No, it's shaky ownership. I 342 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: mean the Bengals, it's almost impossible in the NFL to 343 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: have a top five quarterback and not make the playoffs. 344 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: The Bengals did that last year. It wasn't on Zach Taylor. 345 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: That's why I always support Zach Taylor. He's not Andy Reid, 346 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: he's not Jim Harball. I'm gonna support him. They have 347 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: the smallest scouting department they may still in the NFL, 348 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: So to me, it's I mean, think about this. The 349 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: Angels had Mike Trout and Shoheyo Tawani and could not 350 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. That's because the baseball franchise up by 351 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: five called the Dodgers is much much better run. It's 352 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: not all about money, research and development, scouting. It's just 353 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: a better organization. So when Jerry Jones empowered two coaches, 354 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: Bill Parcell's early Jimmy Johnson early. They won super bowls. 355 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean, think about this. In a passing league. The 356 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: Bengals had a quarterback that led the league in passing, 357 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: a receiver that led the league in receiving, an ed 358 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: rusher that led the league in sacks, and they missed 359 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: the playoffs. It's impossible when fourteen of thirty two teams 360 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. So you know, again, you could say, 361 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: Zach Zach Taylor, Okay, go ahead, he got to a 362 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: super Bowl. He did something right, all right with that. 363 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: Nick Wright first things, first Weekdays at three. So I'm 364 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: in a weird space with Shader Sanders, so you know, 365 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: so it'd be very easy to be a troll and 366 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: marginalized me. But I liked him coming out of college. 367 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: Then I thought he was way too immature with legendary 368 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: and the speeding tickets unserious really bothered me. And then 369 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: I watched them Friday and I'm like, stop saying he's 370 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: not athletic enough. He is more athletic than all but 371 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: about ten guys. Neally he is fine, And so now 372 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: I'm stuck. I did not like, I'm really I like 373 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: the traits, but I said yesterday, if your traits aren't 374 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: mahomes Alan Lamar, then you better be good at the 375 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: other stuff, the other thirty thirty five percent. Years ago, 376 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: you said something very smart. You said the NBA, you 377 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: don't have to be a great defensive player because offense 378 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: is seventy percent of the league. You shouldn't be hardened 379 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: and be atrocious. Same thing here, traits are seventy percent 380 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: of the league, but you have to do some film study, 381 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 1: like it can't be like. So I am back and 382 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: forth on Shador, but I loved how he played Friday, 383 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: and then he told me crazy because he goes after 384 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: a local radio guy, and I'm like. 385 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 8: We see, so I didn't. 386 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 5: So here's the deal. 387 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 8: I actually think you and I were in a similar 388 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 8: spot on Shador and the Browns have given us an out, 389 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 8: and then I'll get to the radio guy. Okay, So 390 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 8: I think you and I both before the draft said 391 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 8: there's a very real chance he's like. People were talking 392 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 8: about should or versus cam Ward at one and then 393 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 8: it moved to will the Giants take him in the 394 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 8: top five, and then it moved to should Pittsburgh trade 395 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 8: up to ten or eleven if he's there, And I 396 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 8: think you and I were two of the few people 397 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 8: that said he might be there for Pittsburgh if they 398 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 8: don't move at all, if they just stay where they 399 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 8: are in the twenties in round one that we thought 400 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 8: as a prospect. He was a late round one, round 401 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 8: two player, and so we weren't as high on him 402 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 8: as some. 403 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 5: But I don't think any. 404 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 8: Of us thought he was going to fall the way 405 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 8: he did, So there's that part of it. Then, I 406 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 8: don't think you or I loved him as a starting 407 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 8: quarterback his rookie year in the NFL, But when he 408 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 8: ends up on a team with the oldest quarterback in 409 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 8: the league in Joe Flacco, with Kenny Pickett, who is 410 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 8: not an NFL quarterback, and in fact, when you have 411 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 8: Mike Sando on in an hour, ask him about Kenny 412 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 8: Pickett maybe being the first player in the history of 413 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 8: his tiers to be in his own tier. Tier five, 414 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 8: this year for Sando was just Kenny Pickett. It's the 415 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 8: saddest thing I've ever seen. He has no friends, he 416 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 8: has no roommates, he has nothing. He's out there all 417 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 8: by himself. And then Dylan Gabriel, who you know, looks 418 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 8: eye to eye with Kyler Murray literally. Then all of 419 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 8: a sudden, it's like, well, Shador might be a good 420 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 8: option in this specific quarterback room because Blasto is not 421 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 8: playing all seventeen. 422 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 5: Picket's not a starter. 423 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 8: And you watch as much college football as anybody. 424 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 5: Nobody watched Oregon last. 425 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 8: Year and was like, that kid, that's a franchise NFL quarterback. 426 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 8: So you then add to it that, I think Shador 427 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 8: played quite well under somewhat adverse circumstances in Week one 428 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 8: of the pre and you have the recipe for a 429 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 8: fifth round pick starting the season as the backup quarterback 430 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 8: for the quarterback most likely to be benched of anyone 431 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 8: in the league. So that part of it, I don't 432 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 8: think that's in conflict with your previous opinions. There's twenty 433 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 8: eight teams in the league where Shador would not be 434 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 8: in a quarterback battle. 435 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 5: He's on one of the three or four where. 436 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 8: He is and where he might end up moving up 437 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 8: enough to. 438 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 5: Where he's the eventual starter. 439 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 8: There's that now, the Tony Grosie thing. Colin, listen, I 440 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 8: know it has been years since you. 441 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 5: Had to go in locker rooms. 442 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 8: And it's been sometime since I went in locker rooms, 443 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 8: but we know. 444 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 5: That is not uncommon. 445 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 8: The athlete going up to the loudmouth radio guy and 446 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 8: being like, Hey, what I. 447 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: Do to you? 448 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 8: I remember twelve years ago, I don't know, I guess 449 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 8: fifteen years ago being in the Chiefs locker room and 450 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 8: Matt Castle saying to anyone who would listen in my vicinity, Hey, 451 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 8: does anybody like this guy? He sure seems to talk 452 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 8: a lot of s to everyone, doesn't he like? That's 453 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 8: pretty common? And so and I all, let me add 454 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 8: one other thing about the end of that. And this 455 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 8: is just a reality of life. Never underestimate the power 456 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 8: of charisma or a great smile like that Tony Grossy 457 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 8: Schadoor interaction reads not great, but when you watch it 458 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 8: and Shador hits you with the five thousand watts smile 459 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 8: and the laugh at the end, it seems like it's okay. 460 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 5: So I had no problem with that. 461 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 8: The walk in with the boombox and the staff I 462 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,479 Speaker 8: maybe could have done without. But I also did just 463 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 8: turn forty, so I'm becoming a curmudgeonly old man like you. 464 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 5: But I thought he played well. 465 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was fun to watch. 466 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: So I said, almost everybody played this weekend, Mahomes, Burrow, Tua, 467 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: everybody but Tom Brady played this weekend, and Caleb Williams didn't. 468 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: And my take was standalone Bear's Dolphins. Ben Johnson's like, 469 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: you know, He's It's like when tech companies come out 470 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: with a new product and they say, you know what, 471 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: we're gonna delay it. It's going to be revolutionary, but 472 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: you just want to tighten it up. It means the 473 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: engineering staff's a little behind. My take is Caleb is 474 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: creating a little bit of drama where it's like, listen, 475 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: do we want another nine days or seven days getting crushed? 476 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: He's not quite there. 477 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: We're asking him to do stuff under center, and it 478 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: was strategic in not playing him, not that he got 479 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of good snaps against the Dolphins. 480 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 3: What's your take on that? 481 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 8: I think you have gone swung the pingumile a little 482 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 8: too far on the Caleb stuff. If I'm being honest, 483 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 8: I think you have the are a little too pessimistic 484 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 8: at this point. After admittedly, you and I were both 485 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 8: probably a little too optimistic last year. But I listen, 486 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 8: I would if I were running an NFL team, I 487 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 8: would simply say, hey, what does Andy Reid do in 488 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 8: preseason and training camp? 489 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 5: Y'all? 490 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 8: I'll do that because the Chiefs start every year off 491 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 8: sharp and ready, and he plays his guys and Mahomes 492 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 8: is out their first preseason game and they have tough practices, 493 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 8: but the second best in my opinion, coach in football, 494 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 8: Sean McVay, does the opposite. So there clearly isn't just 495 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 8: one way to go about it. I would be more 496 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 8: critical of this if it weren't for the fact it 497 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 8: also should be noted the entirety of the Bears starting 498 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 8: offensive line SAT. They're starting running back, tight end, and 499 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 8: their top three wide receivers SAT. So of course Caleb 500 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 8: is going to sit now. He does need to play 501 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 8: probably more snaps now in Week two than they otherwise 502 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 8: would have. And is this Ben Johnson protecting Caleb? Is 503 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 8: this Ben Johnson protecting himself? Is this Ben Johnson simply saying, Yeah, 504 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 8: we're not exactly where I want us to be yet, 505 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 8: but I think there's no harm in waiting an extra week. 506 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 8: I'll tell you this, much like everybody loves Drake May. 507 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 8: Even though you can't find the stat the number the 508 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 8: game where Drake May was better than Caleb. Last year, 509 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 8: Drake May got five through five passes in Week one. 510 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 8: One of them was backwards over his head to the 511 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 8: other team. Nobody cares, and so like, is it good 512 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 8: or bad that Caleb didn't have that moment. I'm not sure, 513 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 8: but I think I am. I do think it will 514 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 8: be a little rocky early as this transition takes place. 515 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 8: But I think by the by Thanksgiving, Colin Caleb, I believe, 516 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 8: is going to look like the player that you and 517 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 8: I both believe. 518 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 5: Et would be. 519 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: Well, I hope so. So the quarterback Mike Sando's on 520 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: in an hour and it's I love it. It's an 521 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: annual survey. I said yesterday, I woke up and I 522 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: saw it and it was like, oh, it was like 523 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 1: Christmas present in August. 524 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: It's great. I love it. 525 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: Did you have anything anything in the tiers? Could you 526 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: do your own tiers? Anything that jumped out to you 527 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: as a revelation or I thought bo Nix was a 528 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: little low. I thought Aaron was a little high at 529 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: this point. I think if you asked GMS, who would 530 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: you take today, Aaron or bow Nicks, they would take 531 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 1: Bo Nicks for a lot of reasons. One he's just 532 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: in his athletic prime. But it didn't bother me. But 533 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: it was there anything here that jumped out to you? 534 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 8: Well, first of all, just because you opened the door there. 535 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 5: I heard you tease. 536 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 8: In the previous segment that there's going to be an 537 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 8: adjustment tomorrow, is it? 538 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 5: Yes to your preseason prediction. 539 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 8: Yes, And then you revealed that a charger injury were 540 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 8: Sewn Slater. And so when I was like, and at 541 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 8: first I was like, Okay, good Colin, who had every 542 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 8: single defending division champion repeating except for the Chiefs, is 543 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 8: now going to use the Rashawn Slater injury as a 544 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 8: reason to elevate the Chiefs. Why do I have a 545 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 8: terrible sinking feeling that somehow the Rashawn Slater injury is 546 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 8: going to lead to bow Nicks and your beloved Sean 547 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 8: Baton going from third to first in the AFC West. 548 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 8: Somehow Rashawn Slater gets hurt and the Broncos go to 549 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 8: first place. 550 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 5: I saw that trade storming down the tracks. 551 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 8: I was like, that's what's happening here, all right? So sorry, 552 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 8: no spoiler alert. I haven't seen the list, but I 553 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 8: know that's what's happening. I just know it all right. 554 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 8: Now to the list, I thought the list was really good. 555 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 5: Now I am higher on. 556 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 8: Stafford than most, but not in NFLGMS, in front office people, 557 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 8: because I think he's the fifth best quarterback in football. Well, 558 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 8: obviously the three or four people that had Josh Allen 559 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 8: or Lamar as tier two are just out of their 560 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 8: mind Like that, to me is not a viable opinion. 561 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 8: Unless people are arguing Maholmes is in a tier by himself, 562 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 8: which they should, but they're not. Then Alan and Lamar 563 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 8: have to be there with Burrow in tier one. I 564 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 8: know there was a lot of consternation about Jalen Hurts's ranking. 565 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 5: I didn't listen. I would have. 566 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts ahead of Justin Herbert. I would rather have 567 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts than Jared Goff. But aside from that, like 568 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 8: I don't have a problem with Jalen Hurts being high 569 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 8: tier two, I also think it should be noted people 570 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 8: are awful quiet these days. You know, we don't hear 571 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 8: from so much anymore these days. Colin, the brock Purdy truthers, 572 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 8: they were chirping at you and me for quite a while, 573 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 8: and now he's hanging on for dear life in Tier two, 574 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 8: about to drop to Tier three when this thing comes out. 575 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 5: Next year, and you have from as much anymore. 576 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 8: I thought this quarterback tiers was I thought they were 577 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 8: really well done. 578 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 5: As they typically are. 579 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 8: I think Josh Allen's the second best quarterback in football. 580 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 8: But you know, forty seven people voted him tier one, 581 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 8: fifty voted Joe Burrow. It's such a small margin. 582 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 5: I don't really have a problem with it. 583 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 8: I think this is a pretty fair reading of the league. 584 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 8: I agreed with you. I think Aaron was a touch high. 585 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 8: I also thought Kyler I thought fit the top of 586 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 8: Tier three are two quarterbacks that I just don't really 587 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 8: believe it in Kyler and Aaron, so I wouldn't have 588 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 8: them quite as high. I think Gino's a little disrespected. 589 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 8: And listen, I understand nobody's ready for Mac Jones two 590 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 8: point zero bo Nicks to take the league by storm. 591 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 8: I'm very excited to see it. 592 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, by the way, the Brock pretty thing, 593 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: and this is gonna really bother Jmac. But I said 594 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: when dak As a fourth rounder came in and the 595 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys had Zeke, who was the best back in the league, 596 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: the best offensive line, in offensive coach. The division was 597 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: kind of wonky, and they could spend money because they're 598 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: paying Dak. Yeah, there were three and then the more 599 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: they relied on him. Well, if you go to brock 600 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: Perty's first year as a full time starter, he had 601 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: four Pro Bowlers on offense. Now, their receiving corps in 602 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: this camp is a mess. And in his last fifteen games, 603 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: as the team got old, Brittle is losing defensive players, 604 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: meaning they're in more shootouts. Do you know what brock 605 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: Purty is in his last fifteen games, He's six and 606 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: nine and they just paid him. So my take is 607 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: what brock Purty is going through, not only the last 608 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: fifteen games, but in this camp where all his receivers 609 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: are gone or Hurd is that's the real NFL, not 610 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: of Das rookie year or brock first two years. 611 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 8: Of course, And by the way, listen, some of these 612 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 8: the brock Purty folks are not going to be reasoned with. 613 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 8: And I've said this before, but I will say it again. 614 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 5: This is a essentially a. 615 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 8: Six year long how do you view football war that 616 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 8: started with Jimmy Garoppolo. Jimmy Garoppolo won, but objectively was 617 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 8: not that good. And some people were like, Nope, he's 618 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 8: a winner, he's got it. And there were those of 619 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 8: us who were like, I actually think with that coaching 620 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 8: and that talent and that scheme, you could throw almost 621 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 8: anyone in there and they would be successful. And those 622 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 8: folks were like, no, you can't. And by the way, 623 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 8: how would you ever prove that? And then they put 624 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 8: in literally the last player picked in the draft and 625 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 8: added Christian McCaffery, and instead of those folks being like, oh, yeah, 626 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 8: the talent and the scheme of the coaching, they're like, nope, 627 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 8: that guy's a superstar. And then those of us were like, no, 628 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 8: he has this amazing team around him, and they said, well, 629 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 8: how do you know he wouldn't do it if he 630 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 8: didn't have that team around him. 631 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 5: And then last year he didn't have it around. 632 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 8: Him, they won six games, and they're like, no, proc 633 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 8: party's still great. Like he's fine, he's over a Chiefs 634 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 8: draft status. 635 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 5: I'm happy for him and his family. He got paid. 636 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 8: But anybody that watches the NFL and thinks he is 637 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 8: a force multiplier or he is a substantially. You know 638 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 8: that he is unfairly ranked and the fourteen fifteen, sixteen range. 639 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 8: There's just they're not going to they are not open 640 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 8: to the evidence that keeps pouring in year after year 641 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 8: or game after game. 642 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: I will give you credit though, the fact that you 643 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: are able to sniff out bonnets go on. 644 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 5: I know it. 645 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 8: Of course, I was shocked when I saw you didn't 646 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 8: have the Broncos in the playoffs. 647 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 5: I'm like, that's listen. I know. I know Uncle Colin 648 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 5: really well. 649 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 8: And one of the things I know is around this 650 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 8: time of year, he loves he loves he loves him some. 651 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 8: Sean Payton loves him some. 652 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: Ah. 653 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 8: You know, how impressive is it really to go to 654 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 8: seven straight conference title games and win three and go 655 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 8: to three straight Super Bowls? 656 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 5: Like when we see that all the time? 657 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 8: And now do I wish you had this type of 658 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 8: energy for JP Losman and the Bills circa two thousand 659 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 8: and nine? Sure I do, But listen, everybody, everybody can't 660 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 8: be the twenty twenty four Denver Broncos who went zero 661 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 8: to seven against AFC playoff teams. But now they're a 662 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 8: real threat because have you seen Courtland Sutton. I mean, 663 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 8: it's the silliest thing I've ever heard, but I'm glad 664 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 8: you're now going to join the chorus on it. And 665 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 8: I still please explain tomorrow how Rashaun Slater's injury moves 666 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 8: the Broncos up two spots and the Chiefs state where 667 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 8: they're at. I don't see it, but I'm sure you 668 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 8: will explain it. 669 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 3: I will. 670 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: First things first, my buddy Nick Ryde his own good 671 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: seeing you see you going ye two major moves tomorrow. 672 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: I do you know it's it's a couple of years 673 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: ago nobody was playing. I can remember the year that 674 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett came out. That was the only real August 675 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: topic because Sean McVay decided, when he broke into this league, 676 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm not playing starters. 677 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 3: In the preseason. Everybody criticized him. 678 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: He went eight to no to start the season, and 679 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: so a lot of people scaled back, and the NFL 680 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: realizes joint practice is probably better for health than games. AnyWho, 681 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 1: this year, everything's cyclical in sports. Everybody's shooting nothing but threes. 682 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: Everybody wants this. And then Oklahoma City, you know, has 683 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: a great two shooter and cheded Holmgren's doing twos and 684 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: SGA is doing twos, and all of a sudden you 685 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: look up and you're like, oh, they're the NBA champs 686 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: by playing defense. So in the NFL now like everybody's 687 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: playing in the preseason. So everything in sports, I mean, 688 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: the political media overreacts to everything. In in sports, we 689 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: overreact to some. But the truth is in sports everything 690 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: comes around everything, like three point shot. You got to 691 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: take seventy three point shots. And then you start watching 692 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: the Celtics and you're like, the downside of shooting all 693 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: those three point shots is you have bad nights shooting 694 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: three point shots. You really don't with mid range. Those 695 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's teams mid range, you kind of got the 696 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: same team every night. And and you say, well, what 697 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: about the Warriors where they had Kadi Clan Steph the 698 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: three best three point shooters in the league arguably on 699 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: the same team. 700 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 3: That was different. 701 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: But I just look at the preseason this year and 702 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 1: it's been fun. I'm watching starting quarterbacks. I'm watching starting players, 703 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: and I don't want my quarterbacks to get hurt. I 704 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: don't believe in preseason I would eliminate it. I don't 705 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: think you need it. College football doesn't have it, but 706 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 1: it's been a good watch.