Speaker 1: That's right. It is the Fifth Hour with Ben Mallor
Speaker 1: and not not David Gascon. He's not here this weekend
Speaker 1: because four hours a night are not enough eight days
Speaker 1: a week. And as you know by now, this is
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Speaker 1: you're a brigadier general, a P one super fan, if
Speaker 1: you want me to rant about something. I had a
Speaker 1: Laker apologist who called up and said, hey, you you
Speaker 1: know he called me on cameos. You gotta ranked about
Speaker 1: the Lakers. He's not a couple of times that schmuck?
Speaker 1: How dare him? So? I did that? Uh? And also
Speaker 1: obviously on social media if you don't follow me on
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Speaker 1: Mallor on Fox on Instagram and just Ben Mallard on Twitter.
Speaker 1: So I am excited to bring this person on today.
Speaker 1: Is one of my favorite people in sports radio. I
Speaker 1: don't like a lot of people in sports radio. I
Speaker 1: don't you know that. I have a very strong opinions
Speaker 1: about what's good and what's not. I like entertainment, I
Speaker 1: like passion, strong opinions, and I like people that are prepared.
Speaker 1: He checks every box. Plus I know him, I've worked
Speaker 1: with him, I've met him. Bruce Jacobs. Now, if you're
Speaker 1: a longtime connoisseur of Fox Sports Radio, and many of
Speaker 1: you are, but maybe not you, Bruce Jacobs was part
Speaker 1: of the network the first decade or so of Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. He is the most passionate New York Jets
Speaker 1: and Mets fan I know, Sorry, Jason Smith. Bruce takes
Speaker 1: it to the next level and he despises the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins and also can't stand the New York Yankees. He's
Speaker 1: been on the radio for many, many years. He's a
Speaker 1: staple of the Phoenix radio market. He's doing morning drive
Speaker 1: now in Phoenix, and so I wanted to catch up
Speaker 1: with Bruce, and we welcome in Bruce Jacobs. The reason, Bruce,
Speaker 1: that I wanted to catch up with you, and you're
Speaker 1: aware of this, obviously I booked you, is that in
Speaker 1: early October of we had a conversation. I believe I
Speaker 1: appeared on your your Morning show. We were talking about
Speaker 1: the Kyler murray or something along those lines. So anyways,
Speaker 1: like October of last year, and we had made a
Speaker 1: bet on the presidential election, which at that time was
Speaker 1: about a month away. I said that Donald Trump was
Speaker 1: gonna win a second term, and you said, no, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Joe Biden that's gonna win. And here we are.
Speaker 1: Biden was sworn in the other day as the President
Speaker 1: of the United States. So I'm paying up my bet.
Speaker 1: I am a man of integrity, Bruce, I am a
Speaker 1: man of honor. Congratulations, But how does it feel to
Speaker 1: win that bet? Well, Bet, it's nice to talk to you, man, Okay.
Speaker 1: It's it's good to hear from your brother. And you know,
Speaker 1: I made a lot of bets over the years. I've
Speaker 1: won a lot of bets. I've lost a lot of bets.
Speaker 1: And I'll be honest with you, I am sorry that
Speaker 1: I won this Bet, I'm very rarely sorry when I lose.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're always sorry when you lose because you're lost.
Speaker 1: So when I say sorry, sorry to yourself. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I really kind of apologized to America. To be honest
Speaker 1: with you, Yes, I did lose that, bet, Ben. Uh.
Speaker 1: The upside is I get to spend some time with you.
Speaker 1: The downside is I have well probably four years happy
Speaker 1: to be ruled by him. Yeah. Well, you know, it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting things to talk about, Bruce. It won't be
Speaker 1: as much fun is when Trump was president, but you'll
Speaker 1: you'll have some things to talking about bout you. Now,
Speaker 1: you are a member of the f s Are Alumni Association.
Speaker 1: So have you been paying up your dues Bruce's and
Speaker 1: are you're an active member? Are you on hiatus from that?
Speaker 1: I guess it depends you know what I mean, if
Speaker 1: somebody some cash and co in. So you you asked
Speaker 1: me to your college here, and yes I am a
Speaker 1: proud alumni. Yeah, I rather enjoyed it very much. Well.
Speaker 1: I I love working. I have no concept of time though,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're like me, like it all
Speaker 1: is like a big ball. I like I remember working
Speaker 1: alongside you we we would do shows at different times.
Speaker 1: I think you filled in for me a few times,
Speaker 1: and I probably filled in for you a few times,
Speaker 1: and we went back and forth and all that. So
Speaker 1: I recall that, but I'm trying to think of the
Speaker 1: timeline when you were here for several years at Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I remember that, but I don't remember exactly
Speaker 1: like when I know it was in the I think
Speaker 1: the first decade of the two thousand of my give
Speaker 1: me the timeline, but the Bruce Jacob's timeline when you
Speaker 1: were here. Yeah, so Ben, I started there around two
Speaker 1: thousand and one. Tom Lee originally hired me. Okay, Tom
Speaker 1: Lee when he ran Fox Sports. I went to about
Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven. Uh no two thousand and ten
Speaker 1: and UH my last partner in Lincoln Kennedy. He and
Speaker 1: I banged it out for UH for about two years
Speaker 1: or so. But I do remember all, you know, the
Speaker 1: the times that you and I got a chance to
Speaker 1: do some stuff together, and you know, I was pretty
Speaker 1: much your weekend over that guy and UH and UH
Speaker 1: chilling whenever needed. And so but I started it was
Speaker 1: right up to I land had been two jobs in
Speaker 1: one week after taking this were off Fox and back
Speaker 1: here in Phoenix, which is where I live at at
Speaker 1: the news talk station. So I was looking for a
Speaker 1: little bit audition for a couple of things around the country,
Speaker 1: not many, and then in one week, and you know,
Speaker 1: that's the way the luck is, man. You know, you
Speaker 1: put out the plan right then you put out the plan,
Speaker 1: and then you know, the plan goes to buses. I
Speaker 1: tell anybody who's down, if you're down, you know tomorrow. Okay,
Speaker 1: you might be down today, but you don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen tomorrow. You literally don't. And uh yeah,
Speaker 1: So in one week I landed the two gigs and
Speaker 1: Fox and one of them and it was great, man.
Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoyed it well. And you were ahead of
Speaker 1: your time risk because like everyone these days, pretty much
Speaker 1: everyone's doing remote broadcasting or has done remote broadcasting because
Speaker 1: of the pandemic. But you, I remember, because you would
Speaker 1: you do the show from your house, and you you
Speaker 1: had your dog that would sometimes I think one time
Speaker 1: shoot up your headphones or something like that. And I
Speaker 1: remember you were all and once I'll tell you the
Speaker 1: for me, the best story, okay, And and God bless
Speaker 1: uh Andrew Ashwood, the Gorilla may rest in peace, one
Speaker 1: of the really great people in the business for me
Speaker 1: personally and professionally. Uh So, I'm doing the show and
Speaker 1: I had like a studio. Okay, you know, man, I'm sitting,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting. I'm sitting, and I'm surrounding myself with starter
Speaker 1: phone Okay, obviously, so it doesn't sound at goee, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: So at the time, I had three Siderian Huskies. Uh
Speaker 1: Sever was the youngest, Curtis the middle one named after
Speaker 1: Curtis Martin severs obvious, and Chad named after Chad Pennington.
Speaker 1: And so one night, then Chad, who was the ringleader
Speaker 1: of the three, he starts holland you know, like Husky
Speaker 1: is he was just talking. Now imagine this. I'm sitting
Speaker 1: at my desk. I only have much rope, if you will,
Speaker 1: or so much line headphone line okay, because it's a
Speaker 1: headphone mike at the time, and I'm like chat, you know,
Speaker 1: without talking, because I'm on the air. Okay, you talk
Speaker 1: about talent, man, do these two things at one time?
Speaker 1: Liked quiet and the more you tell him to be quiet,
Speaker 1: the more he would talk. The next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: all three of them are at it, man, and they
Speaker 1: are going at it, and I'm like thinking to myself,
Speaker 1: Holy moly, I'm gonna get fired. The next day, I
Speaker 1: did you not? The grilla called and he's like, uh,
Speaker 1: saws everything garden, and I'm like, good. So I was
Speaker 1: a show. It was well. We had a little problem.
Speaker 1: So I tell him about the probably goes. I don't
Speaker 1: don't know where I hurt it, and do me a
Speaker 1: favor the next time you're on the more of the
Speaker 1: dogs and less of you, okay. And so it was great, man,
Speaker 1: it was great. And so we bring the dogs on.
Speaker 1: We formed the band called Ruse and the Wolfie Three.
Speaker 1: They come on and do predictions. You know. We got
Speaker 1: fun like yeah, yeah, man, listen, that's what I love.
Speaker 1: You're You're you're my like my upper echelon there. You know,
Speaker 1: because a lot of these guys in sports radio these days, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they just they don't have the possess. You
Speaker 1: got the possess, Bruce. I'm not kissing your ass here,
Speaker 1: but I like your style, right, I like you know,
Speaker 1: you're passionate, you've got strong opinions, you're prepared, and you
Speaker 1: throw haymakers be sure to catch live editions of The
Speaker 1: Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm
Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: What what happened to our business with so many the
Speaker 1: next you know, next generation? I don't know how you
Speaker 1: want to describe it. I don't sense a lot of that.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened used to be that when
Speaker 1: I back in my day, Bruce, when I started, I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of guys were like that, and
Speaker 1: now the business has gotten away from that, which I
Speaker 1: don't like. I don't like. What do you think happened? Well, honestly,
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of things, Ben, I think
Speaker 1: it starts with UH management. It became like government, Okay,
Speaker 1: the rule of thum became instead of sin. It's thicker
Speaker 1: at the top and then thinner where you needed to
Speaker 1: be sicker. And that is UH good hosts and support
Speaker 1: people and producers, you know everything. When one when one
Speaker 1: guy has to do six seven jobs, Ben, you know
Speaker 1: you can be as good as you can be. And man,
Speaker 1: when you have so many jobs, there's gonna be things
Speaker 1: that are just gonna fall through the cracks. And when
Speaker 1: the little things fall through the cracks, they become a
Speaker 1: big thing. So there's that. I think the audience has changed.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. The tolerance level in this country is
Speaker 1: about as bad as it can be. Okay, people are
Speaker 1: looking to be offended. Okay, they want to be offended
Speaker 1: so they can complain and then they can try to
Speaker 1: get you canceled. Because that's like a big club. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a cancer on the country as a whole,
Speaker 1: in anything, not just read your folks, um, but it's
Speaker 1: become a cancer. And these people lived for this because
Speaker 1: their lives are mostly meaningless. They have no meaning in life,
Speaker 1: so their meaning now is destroying you because you have
Speaker 1: some level of success. Um, there's that. There's for young
Speaker 1: This is what I find is disappointment. And I won't
Speaker 1: speak for you, and I think I'm a little north
Speaker 1: of you. But when I was a kid, and I
Speaker 1: hate doing these when I was a kid, but when
Speaker 1: I loved you know, I love sports, but I'd love
Speaker 1: to research it. And at that time we didn't have
Speaker 1: all this this great stuff, right, So when I say
Speaker 1: research it, I love to learn the history about the
Speaker 1: things that I loved that I didn't know the history
Speaker 1: of made me love it more. R the case that
Speaker 1: the dolphins hate it more. Okay, so it depends. But
Speaker 1: I had a quest a desire. A lot of the
Speaker 1: younger folks. I think where they're making a mistake is,
Speaker 1: you know, history started before they were born. It didn't
Speaker 1: start on the day they were born. So I think
Speaker 1: there's that as well. And I also believe that you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people have lost the bay you communicate
Speaker 1: because they spend their life in those phones. Ben. I'm
Speaker 1: sitting in Phoenix, Arizona. The sun is out, it's a
Speaker 1: tiny bit of wind, it's about seventy degrees. It's just
Speaker 1: a beautiful day. You've been here, and I'm talking to
Speaker 1: you on a flip phone because I do not want
Speaker 1: my phone to be in my life, to be engrossed
Speaker 1: in my phone. So there's a lot of factors, and
Speaker 1: that's so I see it. Yeah, And am I'm misting.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're on Are you on Twitter? Bruce?
Speaker 1: I I know you're on Facebook. I see on Facebook
Speaker 1: all the time. Are you active on the Twitter machine? No?
Speaker 1: And that's not a protest. I've never been on Twitter,
Speaker 1: and I don't see any reason, uh why I would
Speaker 1: why I would do that. No, No, it doesn't interest me.
Speaker 1: First off, then nothing happens right now that if I
Speaker 1: find out in two minutes or three minutes or four
Speaker 1: minutes later, is going to change anything for me. Okay,
Speaker 1: so um No, I jump on Facebook a little bit,
Speaker 1: have a little bit of fun. But other than that,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a social media fan. I guess
Speaker 1: you know. People my age, we man, we found better
Speaker 1: ways to communicate this shitty here yell at each other
Speaker 1: on the phone. Yeah, no, listen, I Bruce, I I
Speaker 1: I have a love hate relationship with Twitter, like I
Speaker 1: I use it for the show. I use it a lot,
Speaker 1: but I find the biggest a holes in the world
Speaker 1: are all getting together and having a block party pretty
Speaker 1: much on Twitter. It's NonStop. But that the word I
Speaker 1: will use, Bruce, that describes what you're talking about. Is
Speaker 1: this obsessive like the tribalism, like if and there's no
Speaker 1: room for any dissenting opinions. And it's the thing that's
Speaker 1: really scary and you reference this and you've lived it,
Speaker 1: and you know we're all living at the work in
Speaker 1: the radio business, is that even in sports radio, like
Speaker 1: I love to me, the greatest hate is sports hate.
Speaker 1: Like you are legendary in the business, Bruce. You can't
Speaker 1: stand the Miami Dolphins right in the Yankees, you ripped
Speaker 1: them all that, But that's like, that's fun, that's great,
Speaker 1: that's sports say. But even that, now you can't do
Speaker 1: that because people don't want to hear it, and they
Speaker 1: get offended and they sent in the attack puppies to
Speaker 1: to take you down. It's insane. But it all comes
Speaker 1: back to tribalism. I remember when MLB dot Com started.
Speaker 1: I had a buddy of mine who was working for
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball who told me, this is going to
Speaker 1: be the future that you know, you're gonna get to
Speaker 1: the point where people don't want to hear They're just
Speaker 1: gonna have reporters covering the teams that are on the payroll,
Speaker 1: and eventually people aren't gonna want to hear any negativity
Speaker 1: about their teams. And it's it's like we've we've had
Speaker 1: that moment, Bruce, where even you're in you're in Phoenix,
Speaker 1: you're in the Phoenix market. Right. Uh, how about now?
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray? Right, I I ripped Kyler Murray a few
Speaker 1: times on my show. It end up in the in
Speaker 1: the newspaper. I send you the material of like, Hey, Ben,
Speaker 1: you're getting trash today and I love it, man, I
Speaker 1: love it? Yes, but continue you Coo're you're exactly correct.
Speaker 1: Do you get ripped in the papers today? You're correct? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: But I'm just it didn't used to be like that.
Speaker 1: In fact, I you know, you're a little older than
Speaker 1: I am, but I think we have the same you know,
Speaker 1: mindset on this where I think a good fan to
Speaker 1: me is willing to take some shots at their own
Speaker 1: teeth and if they can't, to me, that's a bad fan.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? You know what I
Speaker 1: would say? Overall, definitely sports and having done the news
Speaker 1: talk format, the ability to have fun is I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say it's gone because I have fun every day, Ben,
Speaker 1: honestly I do. I you know, broadcasting is fun, but
Speaker 1: part of it is serious. A lot of it is
Speaker 1: fun and for me, you know, um, I'm all said this, man.
Speaker 1: The two greatest things about sports is the love and
Speaker 1: the hate. I love to love my teams, but hey,
Speaker 1: if my team sucks, if your team sucks too, I
Speaker 1: feel a little bit better because I love to hate. Oh.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins are Number one and always will be the
Speaker 1: Yankee slotting right behind them. And we can throw in
Speaker 1: the Phillies, the Flyers, virtually anything from the city of Philadelphia. Um,
Speaker 1: and I've got a number of others too, man so,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I've always enjoyed and I know, listen, I
Speaker 1: so badly. I know if you feel the same way.
Speaker 1: This is a little bit of a different lane, a
Speaker 1: little bit. But we badly need been the Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: Bucks to get to the super Bowl. And it has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Tom Brady. It's because if we
Speaker 1: don't have Bruce Arians, we don't have the pomp and
Speaker 1: the circumstance we normally do. It will be boring. Bly
Speaker 1: b A can make the Super Bowl all a little
Speaker 1: spicy of all the people involved, because how many stories
Speaker 1: can I hear that are? You know? Okay, that's funny
Speaker 1: about Andy Andy read eating different cheeseburgers. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: that's got some value to it. It It needs an affable guy.
Speaker 1: But man, if we don't have be a Brother, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a boring super Bowl week. How about the
Speaker 1: if we get the Bills against the Packers, Now, that
Speaker 1: would be all next level boring unless Aaron Rodgers does
Speaker 1: something passive aggressive in which he normally does that. That
Speaker 1: would be the Savings. Now, how have you recovered, Britain?
Speaker 1: I guess the Patriot dynasty is over now, But when
Speaker 1: you were at Fox Sports Radio, they were becoming the
Speaker 1: dynasty they were. It was the early part of it
Speaker 1: and it lasted another ten years. Bruce. Uh, they haven't
Speaker 1: passed the Dolts. No, it doesn't bother me. Then the Patriots,
Speaker 1: Patriots never bothered me. I respect the Patriots, man. I
Speaker 1: don't have any problem with dynasties. Um. You know, I
Speaker 1: know they cheated and I like to poke fund them.
Speaker 1: They changed a couple of times. But you know what's funny.
Speaker 1: All of my hatred the teams that I don't like
Speaker 1: today I didn't like when I was younger. Nothing has
Speaker 1: really changed. I might have added a team like Ohio
Speaker 1: State to the list because I can't stand them. I've
Speaker 1: added a few personalities or people to the list. Uh.
Speaker 1: But for the both part, the same teams I don't
Speaker 1: like today are the teams I didn't like as a kid,
Speaker 1: and they if I wanted to kill the Patriots, I
Speaker 1: just as usually hate the Atlanta Braves. I mean, you
Speaker 1: talked about the Patriots, how about the Braves run denying
Speaker 1: my Mets any possibility? And now would they went fifteen
Speaker 1: out of sixteen or whatever it was? So Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: been the victim quote unquote of dynasties man happen Tora,
Speaker 1: and I've gotten hit against two of them. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: and I gotta ask you. I haven't talked to you
Speaker 1: about this, but how many walls did you punch after
Speaker 1: the Jets beat the Rams to not uh, to forget
Speaker 1: the number one situation this past year? Did you scream
Speaker 1: out loud? Did you have to go outside? I mean,
Speaker 1: what what? What did you do Bruce? When the Jets
Speaker 1: actually won a game when it looked like they were
Speaker 1: gonna go in sixteen? Well? The one thing I think
Speaker 1: it's the first time my wife's kids ever saw somebody
Speaker 1: hate on their own team. Okay, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, hey, it's all worked out in the
Speaker 1: end for me. Ben, I got the coach I want, dude. Now,
Speaker 1: if I can get the quarterback I want d Watson, boy,
Speaker 1: I'll be a very very It'll be the first time
Speaker 1: in seven years I won't go into August and then
Speaker 1: roll into September. And I don't, and I haven't cared. Really,
Speaker 1: I really have not cared much about the Jets the
Speaker 1: last couple of years because, you know, if you're not
Speaker 1: interested in winning, what do I get out of it?
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, well, what is it for me
Speaker 1: as a fan if you are. I didn't say if
Speaker 1: you didn't win. I said, if you're not interested in winning,
Speaker 1: and when you have when you have eight dad Gaze
Speaker 1: or eight damn waste as I call them, and you
Speaker 1: have todd toilet Bowls before that, you don't want to
Speaker 1: win to be the one of these being. No one
Speaker 1: of these coaches is capable. They're both powerable and uh.
Speaker 1: But now I think we want to get back to winning.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm very excited about the upcoming season, even
Speaker 1: though I know we're gonna stay, but I'm excited to
Speaker 1: see State. Yeah, they'll be instead of being at the
Speaker 1: very bottom, they'll be you know, in the mid tier
Speaker 1: of suckets. They'll be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, So we
Speaker 1: won't suck the same way. Then we're gonna suck a
Speaker 1: different way. Man, Okay, it's gonna be different. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be We're gonna suck aggressively. We're back to back installs.
Speaker 1: You know, the Jets play their best football, and remember
Speaker 1: you got to keep it in context. They're best football
Speaker 1: is a FC Championship games and not a lot of them,
Speaker 1: but a few when we when we have a defensive coach,
Speaker 1: a defensive minded guy as our coach. And you can
Speaker 1: look at really anywhere from Rex to Parcelves to leave
Speaker 1: you bank. You know, it doesn't matter where you go home.
Speaker 1: Our past football has played with a defensive coach, uh coach.
Speaker 1: So I'm very excited, very excited to win my five
Speaker 1: games coming up this year. If we get Watson, then
Speaker 1: if we get Watching and Fever, we should be dangerous.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a moral enemy of mine, Deshaun Watson there,
Speaker 1: but he blocked me on Twitter. And this is like
Speaker 1: when he was out of coming out of Clemson because
Speaker 1: I I said something on social media. I was, I
Speaker 1: forget exactly what I said. You got all upset though,
Speaker 1: he very offended and uh and so I'd be worried
Speaker 1: about him, Bruce, if he goes to New York, because
Speaker 1: if you can't handle criticism from a blowhard like me,
Speaker 1: can you imagine what the New York The few tough
Speaker 1: guys left in the New York media would do to
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. It would not go well. It would not
Speaker 1: go well. It won't listen. I uh And then uh,
Speaker 1: I don't have to I don't have to blow beate
Speaker 1: for you. You know, I'm off and up at the
Speaker 1: times that a lot of time that you're on because
Speaker 1: I'm doing my preparation work. And I listened to about
Speaker 1: your Twitter wars and all this, and you know, I
Speaker 1: find that to be that maybe one thing that that
Speaker 1: you know, that the fun wars, but you know when
Speaker 1: it gets really not to go back to that, but
Speaker 1: you know those fun wars and blocking people and laughing
Speaker 1: at people and that sort of thing. Yeah, that might
Speaker 1: be one element of it that I would like. But hey,
Speaker 1: you know what I don't care. Deshaun Watson is is
Speaker 1: high level. I've been talking about this with my partner.
Speaker 1: I do the show with Dale Hellistre, the former cowboy. Uh.
Speaker 1: And when you say who, I say, he's got three rings,
Speaker 1: so he's got a lot of who on his on
Speaker 1: his fingers. Anyway, I would if I were any of
Speaker 1: like twenty teams, then oh you want three number ones? Man?
Speaker 1: I put the phone on pause and say, man, I
Speaker 1: can't believe they're gonna they're gonna give me. They're gonna
Speaker 1: give me this guy for only three number ones. I
Speaker 1: couldn't make that deal fast enough. Then I'll give you
Speaker 1: salmon to you want Sam and three salmon three? It
Speaker 1: is no problem. And I would finally because before I die,
Speaker 1: then I have to see a great Jets quarterback. You know,
Speaker 1: Brett Favre played for US one year, but he wasn't
Speaker 1: a Jet. And I love Jet Pennington, but he's not great. Um,
Speaker 1: I gotta see one great Jet quarterback. And Watson is
Speaker 1: still young enough to be a Jet when all is
Speaker 1: said and done. Yeah, all right. I like the fact
Speaker 1: that you're willing to trade all the draft picks, because
Speaker 1: that's another peeple, all of them. Yeah, I agree to that.
Speaker 1: I'm so annoyed you can't trade draft picks. Oh my god, No,
Speaker 1: every and they think every draft pick is going to
Speaker 1: turn out to be an all pro. And it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen enough, Bruce, of these draft picks.
Speaker 1: And you, as a Jets fan more than anybody, these
Speaker 1: guys that are drafting the top ten that have all
Speaker 1: this hyperbole around them, and how great they're gonna be,
Speaker 1: and most of them are either mediocre or completely worthless
Speaker 1: compared to the hype that they had before the draft. Yet, yeah,
Speaker 1: I looked at these teams that perpetually don't have a
Speaker 1: cool are back, okay. And I looked at the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that they have drafted high in the middle. Okay. The Jets.
Speaker 1: We've drafted Mark Sanchez. That's that's top level for us.
Speaker 1: That's mediocre. We've drafted the biggest bum, Christian Hackenberg, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, Ben and you, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you ever asked the sir tribute. There's only three guys,
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks who have been drafted since the merger in
Speaker 1: the first two rounds that have not seen the playing
Speaker 1: field for their team. Only three. Jim Kelly because he
Speaker 1: was drafted by Uh. He went, I'm sorry in his
Speaker 1: first two years. I apologize. That was the last part
Speaker 1: of it. So did not see the field in the
Speaker 1: first two years. Jim Kelly. But that's a trick because
Speaker 1: he played for the Houston Gamblers. The second one was
Speaker 1: a guy drafted by the Euston Oilers, and I forgot
Speaker 1: the dude's name. In nineteen seventy and the second one
Speaker 1: is Christian Ackenberg. He's only the third top two pick
Speaker 1: since the merger to be drafted and never saw the
Speaker 1: field for his team. So the guys we drafted, the
Speaker 1: kid from Baalor I forgot his name, ran all Brile's
Speaker 1: offense there, so high take flowed. I looked at the
Speaker 1: Cardinals because you know, like cover of the Cardinals, they
Speaker 1: drafted Matt Liner's. Um, oh my goodness. I had a list,
Speaker 1: and I say to the Chicago Bears, look at the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that they have drafted. You wouldn't give up three
Speaker 1: number one for us first an established star right now?
Speaker 1: You're crazy? That's a gift. Three number one, no problem
Speaker 1: every day. No, I'm right there with you. I Draft
Speaker 1: picks are lottery tickets there. You know, most lottery tickets
Speaker 1: you don't win in. So it's I'm I'm in complete agreement.
Speaker 1: And that stand Hinky guy or Sam Hickey rather the
Speaker 1: GM of the the Sixers with that whole trust in
Speaker 1: the process, and he made that cool and all that.
Speaker 1: I hate that guy. I'm glad he's not working in sports.
Speaker 1: I it's such an annoyance. Sure to catch live editions
Speaker 1: of The Ben Meller Show weekdays at two a m.
Speaker 1: Eastern eleven pm Pacific. I want to go back to you, Bruce,
Speaker 1: as a radio savant. How many markets have you worked
Speaker 1: in over the years. I know you've been in Phoenix
Speaker 1: a lot. You were on the East Coast, and you're
Speaker 1: in Albany, I believe for a while. I think you
Speaker 1: started in New York. How many other places have you
Speaker 1: been bouncing around the country doing radio? So we're talking
Speaker 1: local or yeah, local markets? Uh, New York and Phoenix,
Speaker 1: those are the only two. And and I've been nationale
Speaker 1: for Fox. And let's just say a couple of peons. Well,
Speaker 1: I thought you didn't you work with Arnie at the
Speaker 1: Were you in Chicago? Or no? You did you do
Speaker 1: that work with was was the afternoon guy? Uh? In Phoenix?
Speaker 1: In fact, Annie Spaniard is the first guy Ben to
Speaker 1: ever put me on the air. I must have told
Speaker 1: you I can do you on. I'm I'm like overnight
Speaker 1: board up and I had a regular job, sales job,
Speaker 1: and I'm watching It was during the NHL playoffs and
Speaker 1: you know, like, uh, like your boy, my boy Eddie Garcia. Okay,
Speaker 1: love the NHL and love the playoffs. So I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there Ben, and I'm watching it was a first round.
Speaker 1: We won the cup this year. Uh, and I'm watching
Speaker 1: the first round of My boss comes up to me
Speaker 1: and Ben, I do not embellish on this at all, Okay,
Speaker 1: he says to me. Hey, it was a retail store.
Speaker 1: He says to me, I want you to go and
Speaker 1: dust the tops of those refrigerators. So I very kindly
Speaker 1: said to him, listen, I don't touch the time. I
Speaker 1: don't toust the top of the refrigery to my own house,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna do it here. My job is
Speaker 1: to sell. There ain't no customers, so customer walks and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sell them something. Olways, I'm gonna watch this
Speaker 1: hockey game. Next day, I go in. I got fired
Speaker 1: for in subordination. The radio station called me. I'm a
Speaker 1: weekend board up. They said, hey, we need you to
Speaker 1: come in and run the board because we have a
Speaker 1: meeting with everybody and there's nobody to I was, okay,
Speaker 1: no problem, I'm available. I go in an audio tell
Speaker 1: you and Arnie's doing the afternoon show and he said
Speaker 1: to me, and I've seen him in the always a
Speaker 1: couple of times and whatnot, you know, and he's the
Speaker 1: big the BMOC. Okay, he runs. He used the sports
Speaker 1: guy in town. And he says to me, he goes, hey,
Speaker 1: you're a hockey fan, right, big hockey fans. Why'd you
Speaker 1: come on the air. We'll talk some hockey, will take
Speaker 1: some calls. Okay. Then I never ran the board. After that,
Speaker 1: I got a call from the general manager. Hey, that's that.
Speaker 1: I started doing some on air updates and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But if the want Arnie Spaniard, you know, I may
Speaker 1: never have gotten a chance. I may have and I
Speaker 1: may not. So he's the first guy that ever put
Speaker 1: me on the air in a major market. So you
Speaker 1: are on Arnie Spaniards Radio Tree as the big star.
Speaker 1: And then I am sure Arnie said others. And then
Speaker 1: didn't you work with Mike Golic before he became the
Speaker 1: Mike and Mike guy. You were with him right and Phoenix,
Speaker 1: didn't you do some stuff with him? Yeah? So after
Speaker 1: Arnie left and blah blah blah, change the ownership, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. The new program director who his
Speaker 1: name is Chris Visor, brother of Leslie Business San Diego, guy. Right.
Speaker 1: I think I might have crossed paths with him at
Speaker 1: the mighty six ninety back in you know you probably
Speaker 1: did San Diego Denver. Uh, And they hired him here
Speaker 1: in Phoenix. And the funnies thing is is that I
Speaker 1: had I was Arnie got Arnie got let go. And
Speaker 1: actually Arnie called me when I was on vacation. I
Speaker 1: was vacation. He says, Hey, when you come back. I
Speaker 1: was a producer at this time. He says, I just
Speaker 1: want to let you know. And Arnie were I were friends.
Speaker 1: He says, listen, I want to let you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna get fired. You know, I'm just a young guy.
Speaker 1: Ben right. He's like, yeah, they're they're getting rid of
Speaker 1: a producer and the and the guy who ran the
Speaker 1: place with a slob and an idiot, and he didn't
Speaker 1: like me and whatever you don't like. He didn't like
Speaker 1: people from New York. So when I came back, they
Speaker 1: told me he actually came into the studio while I
Speaker 1: was doing a fill in show. Anyway, long story, short
Speaker 1: ter calls me and uh, he got ahold of my
Speaker 1: audio because he asked for audio from all the on
Speaker 1: air people, and uh, he listened to mine, and he
Speaker 1: called me and he said, hey, don't go, don't go
Speaker 1: looking for work. I'll be in town in a weekend.
Speaker 1: I want you to come and see me. So he
Speaker 1: hired me back, and he brought in Mike Golick and uh,
Speaker 1: he put Mike and I together, who worked here for
Speaker 1: shat under three years, and it was great. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he was just an awesome, awesome he's just awesome individual,
Speaker 1: awesome human being and an awesome radio partner. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then he went onto that Mike and Mike thing forever
Speaker 1: and ever and ever. So you've been in the Phoenix
Speaker 1: market for a very long time here, Bruce. Now you
Speaker 1: do your morning show? Is it all cardinals, d backs
Speaker 1: and science? It's not right. You do national stuff. You
Speaker 1: do a lot of national stuff too, righte. You mix
Speaker 1: it up? Oh sure, because remember this is this very
Speaker 1: transition here. Um. So you know it's still top five
Speaker 1: for people moving from other places. So yeah, I mean, obviously, Ben,
Speaker 1: you know it's Phoenix, so you know, um, but we
Speaker 1: do not. Oh okay, listen, look what are we gonna
Speaker 1: what is our eight cardinal topic today? God? Though, who
Speaker 1: they'll want the list of that? Um? No, no, I mean,
Speaker 1: we we hit the headlines and then we hit the
Speaker 1: stuff that nobody else often has based on culling of information, opinion,
Speaker 1: just whatever. And then by all means, listen, I'm going
Speaker 1: to spend a large part of this hanging on the
Speaker 1: Brooklyn nets. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: I don't know there's a team outside of the Dolphins
Speaker 1: of the Yankees. I want to lose more games. Okay.
Speaker 1: I love that Cavalier game last night, by the way, Okay,
Speaker 1: that was watching watching a nine pounds sex and destroy
Speaker 1: their backcourt was beautiful. So yeah, listen, man, we we
Speaker 1: have up front, but I'm not you know, it's one
Speaker 1: of the great places, and you know this will be
Speaker 1: the last stop on my train. One of the great
Speaker 1: things for me is I do not get micro managed
Speaker 1: by seventeen bosses, ten say else people, eight marketing people,
Speaker 1: and somebody along the chain there is upset with something
Speaker 1: I said. So you know it's uh, you know, your professional,
Speaker 1: but free rein your professional, be a professional, be an idiot,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it up absolutely That was a former cowboy.
Speaker 1: So um, I'm a jet fan. I mean, god, did
Speaker 1: anybody really just spend four hours only talking about local
Speaker 1: Is that is that really going on? Because if that is,
Speaker 1: that's a losing ticket. Yeah, well I I filled in it.
Speaker 1: I did some shows at w e I for a
Speaker 1: while it was pretty much all like you know, just
Speaker 1: the Patriots and Red Sox and Celtics. That was pretty
Speaker 1: much and really rarely the Celtics on that. But I
Speaker 1: like what you said about not having a bunch of
Speaker 1: people meddling with you. And that's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: I love doing the overnight show, Bruce. As you know,
Speaker 1: management typically not listening in the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: so we have a little more freedom to do what
Speaker 1: we want to do, which is which is pretty cool
Speaker 1: there in the oh. I I didn't bring up the
Speaker 1: big Mets trade Francisco Indoor. Have you gotten your Francisco
Speaker 1: Indoor Jersey, Bruce, it's coming your level on a scale
Speaker 1: of one to ten. Your level of excitement when Francisco
Speaker 1: Indoor it was announced that he had been traded the Mets.
Speaker 1: All right, your level of excitement and you found out
Speaker 1: the Mets GM was sending pictures of his twigging berries
Speaker 1: out to the women years ago. How do I answer that, Ben?
Speaker 1: How would you let me handle that serious or I
Speaker 1: can just pass on it, like, uh, when will you when?
Speaker 1: When will you be starting? Is the next GM of
Speaker 1: the Mets? Have you sent your resume in yet to
Speaker 1: the new ownership group there? Well, i'll tell you, Ben,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that they didn't start. And Springer. I can't
Speaker 1: believe that dude got millions in here. I mean shooting
Speaker 1: to sixty. I thought there was no money in this game. Um. Hey,
Speaker 1: if the Mets can get ballor and I don't know
Speaker 1: if they will, but if they can get ballot, even
Speaker 1: if they don't, we have a very good team. We're
Speaker 1: coming after your Dodgers, Ben, Um, No, I actually have
Speaker 1: I actually have said this. I think the Dodgers have
Speaker 1: the chance to be a real good a dynasty. Uh
Speaker 1: that's how good they can be. But I think we
Speaker 1: can be better than you. If we can get Trevor ballot,
Speaker 1: then look out, big boy. You'll have to Hey, you'll
Speaker 1: have to look shout for you to San Diego for
Speaker 1: some trouble. But make sure you glance east because we're coming. Baby,
Speaker 1: We're coming to kick some ass. Watch out for the Mets. No,
Speaker 1: I am worried about the Padres. I like teams that,
Speaker 1: like the Mets are have been aggressive here, the Padres,
Speaker 1: even the Blue Jays. I don't agree with that the
Speaker 1: Blue Jays have done. But I'm so sick of these
Speaker 1: teams that just sit on their hands and they don't
Speaker 1: do anything in the off season. And you know, as
Speaker 1: far as the Dodgers, the thing that worries me here,
Speaker 1: and let me be very clear, the the executive, the
Speaker 1: big shot, this guy stand casting, who I'm sure you're
Speaker 1: very familiar with, but he was in Atlanta when the
Speaker 1: Braves you referenced them earlier. They made the playoffs all
Speaker 1: the time, and they had the nineties dynasty and spilled
Speaker 1: over into the two thousands. But that's the model. The
Speaker 1: Dodgers model is, Hey, let's just make the playoffs every
Speaker 1: year and then we'll win, you know, a couple of
Speaker 1: championships along the way. The Braves only one one. The
Speaker 1: Dodgers have won one. But really, Bruce, you'd admit they
Speaker 1: should have won two, right because the Astros were cheating
Speaker 1: in and you know, that's a bull crap championship for
Speaker 1: the Astros. Yes, question about it. Listen, I think the
Speaker 1: Dodgers have a chance. Let me rephrase, uh dynasty is
Speaker 1: too simple. I think they have a chance to be
Speaker 1: the best baseball team I've seen. And I hate to
Speaker 1: say this, but you know, there's my opinion, there's my
Speaker 1: at and there's a tax. Right yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: since since those great Yankee teams at the turn of
Speaker 1: the century, Okay, um, I think they maybe even better.
Speaker 1: I mean they're just loaded and young, and I I agree, man,
Speaker 1: they probably should have to and uh, I just hope that.
Speaker 1: I hope that. Man if we could get Trevor Bauer, boy,
Speaker 1: oh boy, man, oh man, we could be so good.
Speaker 1: Of course, we still have that as SeMet fans call
Speaker 1: him f and Diaz closing games, but you know, hopefully
Speaker 1: that won't last too long. We did bring in big
Speaker 1: Trevor May, so there you go, there you go, Trevor May. Uh.
Speaker 1: And now, Bruce, I believe at your house you are
Speaker 1: you were living with a non Jets fan? Is that correct?
Speaker 1: Is it is your your wife a Bills fan? Is
Speaker 1: that right? My wife is a die hard Bills fan.
Speaker 1: That is her favorite team. She's from. Um, well, she
Speaker 1: likes to consider herself for a a New Yorker, but hey,
Speaker 1: if you live in Buffalo, you're not a New Yorker
Speaker 1: and be she'll only lived there until she was about
Speaker 1: to sick. But she is a huge Bills fans, So
Speaker 1: you know, I you know, you know how this goes,
Speaker 1: Ben being a married man, happy wife, happy life, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. And uh here's the thing though, Ben, and
Speaker 1: she can't hear me right now. You know she's working
Speaker 1: from home. I gotta be honest, Ben. My favorite non
Speaker 1: Jet player is Patrick Mahomes. Okay, maybe I think it's
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the greatest quarterback I'll ever see. And
Speaker 1: god do I love to watch him play. He just
Speaker 1: and I'm not an offensive guy. I like defense, but
Speaker 1: there's something about him that's just I've never seen it
Speaker 1: before and I don't think I'll ever see it again.
Speaker 1: He's magic to me. He's so he's so freaking great.
Speaker 1: He's unbelievable. Um. So, I you know the chiefs are man,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, and but I'll roll with my wife
Speaker 1: and you know I'll work for the Bills and un
Speaker 1: because it's a good I mean, the petals are really good.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you guys love Josh Allen man,
Speaker 1: I mean you know I love that kid. Yeah, Bruce, Like,
Speaker 1: what do you do? You guys have wagers because every
Speaker 1: year the Jets and Bills are gonna play twice forever
Speaker 1: and ever they're in the same division. So how's it
Speaker 1: work in the house? You guys make bets. You're watching
Speaker 1: separate rooms. How's how's it work? Okay, so I'm married
Speaker 1: for about a year and a half, but uh, seriously,
Speaker 1: dating for five years. We've sucked and I've kept my
Speaker 1: mouth shut. That's how it's worked. Simple, simple enough, simple enough. Now, Okay,
Speaker 1: she lets me know about it. But no, she's she's
Speaker 1: the opposite to me. She's a gracious loser. But she's not.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, she's she's a gracious winner. She's not a
Speaker 1: good loser. I'm a great loser because that's all I've
Speaker 1: ever done is lose. That's what I know. I don't
Speaker 1: know anything else. Man, I'm not a good winner because
Speaker 1: when my team's wins, I will let you know about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, well, Bruce, And how now you have a
Speaker 1: lot of fans. You know, I know you've been at
Speaker 1: Fox for a few years now, but do you got
Speaker 1: you know, I'll bring your name up every once in
Speaker 1: a while and I'll get people where's Bruce that I
Speaker 1: want to hear Bruce? I miss Bruce. Bring Bruce back,
Speaker 1: you know, like a management I can bring you back.
Speaker 1: But you have your you have a great gig in Phoenix.
Speaker 1: And and how can people hear you? Everything's online these days,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure people can stream the show if they
Speaker 1: want to hear get a little Bruce. Jacob's fixed in
Speaker 1: the in the morning. And how can they find you? Well,
Speaker 1: you can find me. Well, I'm not on Twitter. We've
Speaker 1: already established that. You can find me on Facebook. And
Speaker 1: you can find me at eighties of fanatic dot com.
Speaker 1: And we go six to ten am right now. It's
Speaker 1: Mountain standard time. The other half of the year, Ben,
Speaker 1: we're on your time, Pacific standard time because we don't
Speaker 1: change clocks here. Uh. So that's how you can find me.
Speaker 1: And I you know, listen. Uh there's a bunch of people.
Speaker 1: Um uh still contact me and you know, I listen.
Speaker 1: You get to work for a great company, you get
Speaker 1: to be a great markets and fun markets and you
Speaker 1: get Eddie Garcia. For heaven's sakes, anytime you get Eddie Garcia,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have fun. So uh, I appreciate that. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I thoroughly enjoyed good partners, great bosses, and
Speaker 1: uh and uh, man, there's something about overnight. Bet you're
Speaker 1: the king of it. Okay, you are the man and
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not brown nose, and I mean you're
Speaker 1: the man. You're the late night guy. Uh. You may
Speaker 1: be the best who has ever done it. And there's
Speaker 1: so there's a certain there's a certain love for that,
Speaker 1: and you kind of able to connect with listeners that
Speaker 1: I don't think you can do in any other day
Speaker 1: part in any other in any other market, you know,
Speaker 1: I know, excuse me, maybe in some local markets. But
Speaker 1: there's something, there's a there's a relationship when you do
Speaker 1: the overnights that you can establish with listeners. Um, that
Speaker 1: I think is unique. Yeah, I completely agree with you.
Speaker 1: I I you know, I've been early on, I did
Speaker 1: mid days, and I did some other day parts. I
Speaker 1: think I've done the full radio cycle where I've been
Speaker 1: on at all all different hours. But what is your favorite?
Speaker 1: But yeah, I do like the overnights. I've always been
Speaker 1: a night person. I've always been more nocturnal. I've been
Speaker 1: more I feel like I'm more creative at night. I'm
Speaker 1: not a morning person. I I don't know how you
Speaker 1: do it, Bruce. I did morning radio. I did updates,
Speaker 1: and I was like a sidekick on a morning show
Speaker 1: for I think it was a year and a half.
Speaker 1: And it was the worst year and a half of
Speaker 1: my career because I hated I could not get up.
Speaker 1: I I tried to stay up all night and then
Speaker 1: make it like an overnight show, but that didn't work.
Speaker 1: My body clock was all messed up. And you'd think
Speaker 1: after a few months I would be able to adjust. Like,
Speaker 1: and you've kind of done that the right. You tell
Speaker 1: me you stay up all night getting ready for the show.
Speaker 1: When when do you sleep? Yeah, so when you're awake,
Speaker 1: I'm asleep. And when you're asleep, I'm a lake. You know.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I did afternoons. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you know. If you but Brian no Fox is Brian
Speaker 1: no He and I worked together in New York and
Speaker 1: he was my boss. Uh and uh. I did afternoon
Speaker 1: drive and that's okay, but not for me. And I
Speaker 1: did enjoy the overnight very much, but for me, morning
Speaker 1: drive morning. And I've done morning drive most of my
Speaker 1: most of my career. At least you know local. Okay,
Speaker 1: here Phoenix. You know, when I've been here for a
Speaker 1: good ben it's like twenty seven, twenty eight years minus
Speaker 1: a few years in New York and doing national out
Speaker 1: of Chicago. I've been here for most of that time,
Speaker 1: and the most of it's been Morning Drive, and I
Speaker 1: wouldn't change the thing still even today. You know a
Speaker 1: lot of morning people. They get glumpy years, they get older. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're having to get up in the morning and everything
Speaker 1: not me um, And I'm usually up preparing um and
Speaker 1: watching and viewing and blah blah blah and listening more
Speaker 1: often or not to your show and doing my thing. Well,
Speaker 1: everybody else is sleeping, and uh man, I do love
Speaker 1: Morning Drive. There's nothing like it. Well, you're you're one
Speaker 1: of the greats, Bruce, I mean that man, mutual admiration
Speaker 1: in society. Hey, before I before I move on here,
Speaker 1: any any Eddie Garcia's stories. I know Eddie told me
Speaker 1: a story that he met you in Phoenix and you
Speaker 1: took him to a fish restaurant. Is that is that accurate?
Speaker 1: I remember him telling the story, um several I think
Speaker 1: it was a year or two years ago, something like that. Well,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I don't like to take credit for things, right,
Speaker 1: but you know, I say I deserve a little bit.
Speaker 1: Eddie might not be married to his wife. Uh if
Speaker 1: not for me. Now I did not introduce them. Actually,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, hey Karen, this is Eddie. But she
Speaker 1: she used to she was Katie. Okay, that was she
Speaker 1: used to call the show. And she loved the dogs.
Speaker 1: Ben loved. If you know her, and you do know her,
Speaker 1: I do. He loved dogs, okay, So she loved She
Speaker 1: would call and she say, let me talk to the dogs, okay.
Speaker 1: And you know, and somehow, and I don't remember the transition,
Speaker 1: you have to go over with uh with e Garcia.
Speaker 1: Somehow they met and um and Eddie and I, you know,
Speaker 1: he did a lot of work. We did a lot
Speaker 1: of work together. And they met and yeah, they came
Speaker 1: out of here again. Who was during super Bowl week?
Speaker 1: And you know his life is just awesome. Bless her soul,
Speaker 1: bless her loving soul and our loves vastly overrated Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1: I'll get a message from Martial lamp paste me. Um
Speaker 1: and uh uh yeah, I mean Eddie's you know, what
Speaker 1: can you say? Man? Another guy who stood the test
Speaker 1: of time and is a great broadcaster. And uh, at
Speaker 1: the time, Patton, you know, he and I were I
Speaker 1: think the only two guys really that chopped it up
Speaker 1: on on the puckage at at the network for the
Speaker 1: most part. Anyway, Yeah, no, I think that's still the case.
Speaker 1: By the way, I think the he's the only guy
Speaker 1: laugh that actually talks about talks about hockey. Hey he
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll tell you this, man, I mean, he
Speaker 1: knows the game. And uh so you wad him. And look,
Speaker 1: I mean guys like to say you got all those guys. Man,
Speaker 1: there's just so many great guys that that that worked there.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, uh and still do. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I know Brian know very well and any obviously both
Speaker 1: friends of mine and blah blah blah, and uh but yeah,
Speaker 1: talking a little bity credit for for Eddie Garcia and
Speaker 1: he control in any blanks. But safe to say if
Speaker 1: I didn't work at Fox, Eddie Garcia would not be
Speaker 1: married to Karen Garcia. There you go, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, have a wonderful rest of your
Speaker 1: your weekend, right and well okay, yeah, well I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to spend the time with you. But I'm
Speaker 1: not glad I won the bet. I'm pissed over the
Speaker 1: circumstances of me being on your program. Here, I just
Speaker 1: want to point out when I made the bed, a
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that ended up happening hadn't happened yet.
Speaker 1: But you called your shot, and you you gotta right.
Speaker 1: All right, Thank you, Bruce, all right, thank you Ben.
Speaker 1: Be well