WEBVTT - Bruce Jacobs 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.320 That's right. It is the Fifth Hour with Ben Mallor 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:08.080 and not not David Gascon. He's not here this weekend 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:13.240 because four hours a night are not enough eight days 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:15.920 a week. And as you know by now, this is 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:19.639 a spinoff of the Overnight Show, The Ben Mallard Show, 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:24.560 only available right here in the podcast world. And thank 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:28.000 you for finding We do appreciate that. Otherwise, why are 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:32.320 we doing this? And the show available wherever you get 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:35.800 your podcast. Tell a friend, Tell a friend, and also 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:39.600 tell a friend about cameo. Cameo. I'm not gonna waste 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:41.760 your time with a lot of these promotions and all that, 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.239 but but I do love Cameo. I'm on there and 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:48.680 you can find me Ben Maller personalized video messages if 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.360 you're a brigadier general, a P one super fan, if 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.240 you want me to rant about something. I had a 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.480 Laker apologist who called up and said, hey, you you 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.680 know he called me on cameos. You gotta ranked about 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.240 the Lakers. He's not a couple of times that schmuck? 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:05.720 How dare him? So? I did that? Uh? And also 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:07.800 obviously on social media if you don't follow me on 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:12.680 there already, it's Ben Maller's show on Facebook and Ben 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:17.280 Mallor on Fox on Instagram and just Ben Mallard on Twitter. 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.840 So I am excited to bring this person on today. 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.600 Is one of my favorite people in sports radio. I 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:25.800 don't like a lot of people in sports radio. I 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.520 don't you know that. I have a very strong opinions 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.160 about what's good and what's not. I like entertainment, I 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:35.960 like passion, strong opinions, and I like people that are prepared. 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.720 He checks every box. Plus I know him, I've worked 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:44.120 with him, I've met him. Bruce Jacobs. Now, if you're 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:48.280 a longtime connoisseur of Fox Sports Radio, and many of 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:52.040 you are, but maybe not you, Bruce Jacobs was part 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:56.080 of the network the first decade or so of Fox 0:01:56.080 --> 0:02:01.600 Sports Radio. He is the most passionate New York Jets 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:06.360 and Mets fan I know, Sorry, Jason Smith. Bruce takes 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:10.639 it to the next level and he despises the Miami 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:14.360 Dolphins and also can't stand the New York Yankees. He's 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:17.000 been on the radio for many, many years. He's a 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:21.000 staple of the Phoenix radio market. He's doing morning drive 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.800 now in Phoenix, and so I wanted to catch up 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.440 with Bruce, and we welcome in Bruce Jacobs. The reason, Bruce, 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:30.360 that I wanted to catch up with you, and you're 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:34.120 aware of this, obviously I booked you, is that in 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:38.960 early October of we had a conversation. I believe I 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.840 appeared on your your Morning show. We were talking about 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.840 the Kyler murray or something along those lines. So anyways, 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.480 like October of last year, and we had made a 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.320 bet on the presidential election, which at that time was 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.840 about a month away. I said that Donald Trump was 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.639 gonna win a second term, and you said, no, it's 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.680 gonna be Joe Biden that's gonna win. And here we are. 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.079 Biden was sworn in the other day as the President 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.400 of the United States. So I'm paying up my bet. 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:08.720 I am a man of integrity, Bruce, I am a 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:12.600 man of honor. Congratulations, But how does it feel to 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:16.280 win that bet? Well, Bet, it's nice to talk to you, man, Okay. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.880 It's it's good to hear from your brother. And you know, 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:20.880 I made a lot of bets over the years. I've 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:24.040 won a lot of bets. I've lost a lot of bets. 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:27.720 And I'll be honest with you, I am sorry that 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:32.239 I won this Bet, I'm very rarely sorry when I lose. 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.320 I mean, you're always sorry when you lose because you're lost. 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.680 So when I say sorry, sorry to yourself. But yeah, 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.280 I really kind of apologized to America. To be honest 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.600 with you, Yes, I did lose that, bet, Ben. Uh. 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:47.960 The upside is I get to spend some time with you. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:52.760 The downside is I have well probably four years happy 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:56.720 to be ruled by him. Yeah. Well, you know, it'll 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.360 be interesting things to talk about, Bruce. It won't be 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.960 as much fun is when Trump was president, but you'll 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.480 you'll have some things to talking about bout you. Now, 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:09.559 you are a member of the f s Are Alumni Association. 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.520 So have you been paying up your dues Bruce's and 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.040 are you're an active member? Are you on hiatus from that? 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.360 I guess it depends you know what I mean, if 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:26.400 somebody some cash and co in. So you you asked 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:30.159 me to your college here, and yes I am a 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:35.960 proud alumni. Yeah, I rather enjoyed it very much. Well. 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.640 I I love working. I have no concept of time though, 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.159 I don't know if you're like me, like it all 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:45.159 is like a big ball. I like I remember working 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.200 alongside you we we would do shows at different times. 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.080 I think you filled in for me a few times, 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:51.920 and I probably filled in for you a few times, 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:53.960 and we went back and forth and all that. So 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.800 I recall that, but I'm trying to think of the 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:01.400 timeline when you were here for several years at Fox 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.520 Sports Radio. I remember that, but I don't remember exactly 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.920 like when I know it was in the I think 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:11.200 the first decade of the two thousand of my give 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.920 me the timeline, but the Bruce Jacob's timeline when you 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:18.840 were here. Yeah, so Ben, I started there around two 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:22.440 thousand and one. Tom Lee originally hired me. Okay, Tom 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:26.039 Lee when he ran Fox Sports. I went to about 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:31.080 two thousand and eleven. Uh no two thousand and ten 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.359 and UH my last partner in Lincoln Kennedy. He and 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.320 I banged it out for UH for about two years 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.640 or so. But I do remember all, you know, the 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.400 the times that you and I got a chance to 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.040 do some stuff together, and you know, I was pretty 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:50.800 much your weekend over that guy and UH and UH 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.880 chilling whenever needed. And so but I started it was 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.640 right up to I land had been two jobs in 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:02.240 one week after taking this were off Fox and back 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:06.599 here in Phoenix, which is where I live at at 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.520 the news talk station. So I was looking for a 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:13.960 little bit audition for a couple of things around the country, 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.719 not many, and then in one week, and you know, 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:18.560 that's the way the luck is, man. You know, you 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.080 put out the plan right then you put out the plan, 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.159 and then you know, the plan goes to buses. I 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:29.120 tell anybody who's down, if you're down, you know tomorrow. Okay, 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.000 you might be down today, but you don't know what's 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:35.360 going to happen tomorrow. You literally don't. And uh yeah, 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.440 So in one week I landed the two gigs and 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.200 Fox and one of them and it was great, man. 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.760 I thoroughly enjoyed it well. And you were ahead of 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.280 your time risk because like everyone these days, pretty much 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:49.440 everyone's doing remote broadcasting or has done remote broadcasting because 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:52.200 of the pandemic. But you, I remember, because you would 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.039 you do the show from your house, and you you 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:57.039 had your dog that would sometimes I think one time 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.039 shoot up your headphones or something like that. And I 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:04.680 remember you were all and once I'll tell you the 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.839 for me, the best story, okay, And and God bless 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.960 uh Andrew Ashwood, the Gorilla may rest in peace, one 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.640 of the really great people in the business for me 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:21.000 personally and professionally. Uh So, I'm doing the show and 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.840 I had like a studio. Okay, you know, man, I'm sitting, 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:28.800 I'm sitting. I'm sitting, and I'm surrounding myself with starter 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:33.360 phone Okay, obviously, so it doesn't sound at goee, etcetera, etcetera. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:39.680 So at the time, I had three Siderian Huskies. Uh 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.800 Sever was the youngest, Curtis the middle one named after 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:47.120 Curtis Martin severs obvious, and Chad named after Chad Pennington. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:51.840 And so one night, then Chad, who was the ringleader 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.720 of the three, he starts holland you know, like Husky 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.800 is he was just talking. Now imagine this. I'm sitting 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:02.360 at my desk. I only have much rope, if you will, 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.040 or so much line headphone line okay, because it's a 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:08.640 headphone mike at the time, and I'm like chat, you know, 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.440 without talking, because I'm on the air. Okay, you talk 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:13.840 about talent, man, do these two things at one time? 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:17.360 Liked quiet and the more you tell him to be quiet, 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.080 the more he would talk. The next thing, you know, 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:21.720 all three of them are at it, man, and they 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.960 are going at it, and I'm like thinking to myself, 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:29.080 Holy moly, I'm gonna get fired. The next day, I 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:33.400 did you not? The grilla called and he's like, uh, 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:37.880 saws everything garden, and I'm like, good. So I was 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.600 a show. It was well. We had a little problem. 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.120 So I tell him about the probably goes. I don't 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.240 don't know where I hurt it, and do me a 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.400 favor the next time you're on the more of the 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:55.000 dogs and less of you, okay. And so it was great, man, 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.800 it was great. And so we bring the dogs on. 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.440 We formed the band called Ruse and the Wolfie Three. 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.840 They come on and do predictions. You know. We got 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:09.920 fun like yeah, yeah, man, listen, that's what I love. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.880 You're You're you're my like my upper echelon there. You know, 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:16.680 because a lot of these guys in sports radio these days, uh, 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.120 you know, they just they don't have the possess. You 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.400 got the possess, Bruce. I'm not kissing your ass here, 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.640 but I like your style, right, I like you know, 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:27.560 you're passionate, you've got strong opinions, you're prepared, and you 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.400 throw haymakers be sure to catch live editions of The 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:33.640 Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.240 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio. 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:41.160 What what happened to our business with so many the 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.319 next you know, next generation? I don't know how you 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.719 want to describe it. I don't sense a lot of that. 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:48.920 I don't know what happened used to be that when 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:51.319 I back in my day, Bruce, when I started, I 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:52.960 feel like a lot of guys were like that, and 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.760 now the business has gotten away from that, which I 0:09:55.760 --> 0:10:01.080 don't like. I don't like. What do you think happened? Well, honestly, 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.160 I think it's a lot of things, Ben, I think 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:09.319 it starts with UH management. It became like government, Okay, 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:14.120 the rule of thum became instead of sin. It's thicker 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:17.320 at the top and then thinner where you needed to 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:21.120 be sicker. And that is UH good hosts and support 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.960 people and producers, you know everything. When one when one 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.360 guy has to do six seven jobs, Ben, you know 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.000 you can be as good as you can be. And man, 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:32.960 when you have so many jobs, there's gonna be things 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:34.880 that are just gonna fall through the cracks. And when 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.200 the little things fall through the cracks, they become a 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.400 big thing. So there's that. I think the audience has changed. 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.319 Let's be honest. The tolerance level in this country is 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.960 about as bad as it can be. Okay, people are 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.800 looking to be offended. Okay, they want to be offended 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.840 so they can complain and then they can try to 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.800 get you canceled. Because that's like a big club. It's 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:58.040 a it's a cancer on the country as a whole, 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.960 in anything, not just read your folks, um, but it's 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.520 become a cancer. And these people lived for this because 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.839 their lives are mostly meaningless. They have no meaning in life, 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.840 so their meaning now is destroying you because you have 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:17.040 some level of success. Um, there's that. There's for young 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.880 This is what I find is disappointment. And I won't 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:21.800 speak for you, and I think I'm a little north 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.200 of you. But when I was a kid, and I 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.360 hate doing these when I was a kid, but when 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.800 I loved you know, I love sports, but I'd love 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.240 to research it. And at that time we didn't have 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.000 all this this great stuff, right, So when I say 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.800 research it, I love to learn the history about the 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:39.800 things that I loved that I didn't know the history 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:41.719 of made me love it more. R the case that 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:45.000 the dolphins hate it more. Okay, so it depends. But 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.480 I had a quest a desire. A lot of the 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.080 younger folks. I think where they're making a mistake is, 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.640 you know, history started before they were born. It didn't 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.320 start on the day they were born. So I think 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.880 there's that as well. And I also believe that you know, 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.520 a lot of people have lost the bay you communicate 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:06.200 because they spend their life in those phones. Ben. I'm 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:10.000 sitting in Phoenix, Arizona. The sun is out, it's a 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.560 tiny bit of wind, it's about seventy degrees. It's just 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:15.440 a beautiful day. You've been here, and I'm talking to 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:18.200 you on a flip phone because I do not want 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.440 my phone to be in my life, to be engrossed 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:25.520 in my phone. So there's a lot of factors, and 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:29.680 that's so I see it. Yeah, And am I'm misting. 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:31.480 I don't think you're on Are you on Twitter? Bruce? 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.920 I I know you're on Facebook. I see on Facebook 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.680 all the time. Are you active on the Twitter machine? No? 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.960 And that's not a protest. I've never been on Twitter, 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:45.400 and I don't see any reason, uh why I would 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.240 why I would do that. No, No, it doesn't interest me. 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.720 First off, then nothing happens right now that if I 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.680 find out in two minutes or three minutes or four 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:58.000 minutes later, is going to change anything for me. Okay, 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:03.160 so um No, I jump on Facebook a little bit, 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.440 have a little bit of fun. But other than that, 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.320 you know, I'm not a social media fan. I guess 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:13.400 you know. People my age, we man, we found better 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.640 ways to communicate this shitty here yell at each other 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:20.240 on the phone. Yeah, no, listen, I Bruce, I I 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:23.880 I have a love hate relationship with Twitter, like I 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:25.840 I use it for the show. I use it a lot, 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.760 but I find the biggest a holes in the world 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:32.800 are all getting together and having a block party pretty 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:36.200 much on Twitter. It's NonStop. But that the word I 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.600 will use, Bruce, that describes what you're talking about. Is 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:44.000 this obsessive like the tribalism, like if and there's no 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:48.040 room for any dissenting opinions. And it's the thing that's 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:50.920 really scary and you reference this and you've lived it, 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.160 and you know we're all living at the work in 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.840 the radio business, is that even in sports radio, like 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.960 I love to me, the greatest hate is sports hate. 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.880 Like you are legendary in the business, Bruce. You can't 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:07.160 stand the Miami Dolphins right in the Yankees, you ripped 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.480 them all that, But that's like, that's fun, that's great, 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:14.000 that's sports say. But even that, now you can't do 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.400 that because people don't want to hear it, and they 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:20.520 get offended and they sent in the attack puppies to 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.720 to take you down. It's insane. But it all comes 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:27.040 back to tribalism. I remember when MLB dot Com started. 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.280 I had a buddy of mine who was working for 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.760 Major League Baseball who told me, this is going to 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.760 be the future that you know, you're gonna get to 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:35.880 the point where people don't want to hear They're just 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:40.119 gonna have reporters covering the teams that are on the payroll, 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.680 and eventually people aren't gonna want to hear any negativity 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.920 about their teams. And it's it's like we've we've had 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:51.480 that moment, Bruce, where even you're in you're in Phoenix, 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.200 you're in the Phoenix market. Right. Uh, how about now? 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.920 Kyler Murray? Right, I I ripped Kyler Murray a few 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.800 times on my show. It end up in the in 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:05.680 the newspaper. I send you the material of like, Hey, Ben, 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.600 you're getting trash today and I love it, man, I 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.440 love it? Yes, but continue you Coo're you're exactly correct. 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.520 Do you get ripped in the papers today? You're correct? Yeah, no, 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.200 But I'm just it didn't used to be like that. 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.400 In fact, I you know, you're a little older than 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.720 I am, but I think we have the same you know, 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:27.480 mindset on this where I think a good fan to 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:31.640 me is willing to take some shots at their own 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.720 teeth and if they can't, to me, that's a bad fan. 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:38.000 What do you think about that? You know what I 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:42.800 would say? Overall, definitely sports and having done the news 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:46.720 talk format, the ability to have fun is I'm not 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.000 gonna say it's gone because I have fun every day, Ben, 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:53.400 honestly I do. I you know, broadcasting is fun, but 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.320 part of it is serious. A lot of it is 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:00.840 fun and for me, you know, um, I'm all said this, man. 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:05.680 The two greatest things about sports is the love and 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:09.280 the hate. I love to love my teams, but hey, 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.000 if my team sucks, if your team sucks too, I 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.040 feel a little bit better because I love to hate. Oh. 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.720 The Dolphins are Number one and always will be the 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:22.120 Yankee slotting right behind them. And we can throw in 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:28.200 the Phillies, the Flyers, virtually anything from the city of Philadelphia. Um, 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.960 and I've got a number of others too, man so, 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:35.160 but yeah, I've always enjoyed and I know, listen, I 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.720 so badly. I know if you feel the same way. 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.320 This is a little bit of a different lane, a 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:45.200 little bit. But we badly need been the Tampa Bay 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.160 Bucks to get to the super Bowl. And it has 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.120 nothing to do with Tom Brady. It's because if we 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.800 don't have Bruce Arians, we don't have the pomp and 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.760 the circumstance we normally do. It will be boring. Bly 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.520 b A can make the Super Bowl all a little 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.920 spicy of all the people involved, because how many stories 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.080 can I hear that are? You know? Okay, that's funny 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:09.399 about Andy Andy read eating different cheeseburgers. I mean, okay, 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.280 that's got some value to it. It It needs an affable guy. 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.680 But man, if we don't have be a Brother, we're 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.760 gonna have a boring super Bowl week. How about the 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:22.160 if we get the Bills against the Packers, Now, that 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:27.240 would be all next level boring unless Aaron Rodgers does 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.960 something passive aggressive in which he normally does that. That 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.920 would be the Savings. Now, how have you recovered, Britain? 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.840 I guess the Patriot dynasty is over now, But when 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.520 you were at Fox Sports Radio, they were becoming the 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.760 dynasty they were. It was the early part of it 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:47.000 and it lasted another ten years. Bruce. Uh, they haven't 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.920 passed the Dolts. No, it doesn't bother me. Then the Patriots, 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.840 Patriots never bothered me. I respect the Patriots, man. I 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:58.280 don't have any problem with dynasties. Um. You know, I 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.560 know they cheated and I like to poke fund them. 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.919 They changed a couple of times. But you know what's funny. 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.679 All of my hatred the teams that I don't like 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.679 today I didn't like when I was younger. Nothing has 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.240 really changed. I might have added a team like Ohio 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.640 State to the list because I can't stand them. I've 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:19.600 added a few personalities or people to the list. Uh. 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.880 But for the both part, the same teams I don't 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.680 like today are the teams I didn't like as a kid, 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.119 and they if I wanted to kill the Patriots, I 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.480 just as usually hate the Atlanta Braves. I mean, you 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.400 talked about the Patriots, how about the Braves run denying 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.800 my Mets any possibility? And now would they went fifteen 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.600 out of sixteen or whatever it was? So Yeah, I've 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:47.440 been the victim quote unquote of dynasties man happen Tora, 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.639 and I've gotten hit against two of them. Yeah. Well, 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:52.720 and I gotta ask you. I haven't talked to you 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.200 about this, but how many walls did you punch after 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.960 the Jets beat the Rams to not uh, to forget 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.600 the number one situation this past year? Did you scream 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.280 out loud? Did you have to go outside? I mean, 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:07.480 what what? What did you do Bruce? When the Jets 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:08.960 actually won a game when it looked like they were 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.960 gonna go in sixteen? Well? The one thing I think 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.879 it's the first time my wife's kids ever saw somebody 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:22.359 hate on their own team. Okay, and um, you know, 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:24.639 I mean, look, hey, it's all worked out in the 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:28.280 end for me. Ben, I got the coach I want, dude. Now, 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:32.000 if I can get the quarterback I want d Watson, boy, 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.600 I'll be a very very It'll be the first time 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.399 in seven years I won't go into August and then 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:42.520 roll into September. And I don't, and I haven't cared. Really, 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.159 I really have not cared much about the Jets the 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.159 last couple of years because, you know, if you're not 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:50.560 interested in winning, what do I get out of it? 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:52.440 You know, I mean, well, what is it for me 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:54.960 as a fan if you are. I didn't say if 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.359 you didn't win. I said, if you're not interested in winning, 0:19:57.359 --> 0:20:00.440 and when you have when you have eight dad Gaze 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.960 or eight damn waste as I call them, and you 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.359 have todd toilet Bowls before that, you don't want to 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:09.479 win to be the one of these being. No one 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:13.280 of these coaches is capable. They're both powerable and uh. 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.200 But now I think we want to get back to winning. 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:19.119 So I'm I'm very excited about the upcoming season, even 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:21.240 though I know we're gonna stay, but I'm excited to 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:24.680 see State. Yeah, they'll be instead of being at the 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:27.280 very bottom, they'll be you know, in the mid tier 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:30.720 of suckets. They'll be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, So we 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.320 won't suck the same way. Then we're gonna suck a 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:36.440 different way. Man, Okay, it's gonna be different. We're gonna 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:41.520 be We're gonna suck aggressively. We're back to back installs. 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.159 You know, the Jets play their best football, and remember 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.960 you got to keep it in context. They're best football 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.480 is a FC Championship games and not a lot of them, 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:53.000 but a few when we when we have a defensive coach, 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:55.960 a defensive minded guy as our coach. And you can 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:59.880 look at really anywhere from Rex to Parcelves to leave 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:02.800 you bank. You know, it doesn't matter where you go home. 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:08.119 Our past football has played with a defensive coach, uh coach. 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.480 So I'm very excited, very excited to win my five 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:13.600 games coming up this year. If we get Watson, then 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:18.280 if we get Watching and Fever, we should be dangerous. 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:21.200 You know, he's a moral enemy of mine, Deshaun Watson there, 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:22.960 but he blocked me on Twitter. And this is like 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.639 when he was out of coming out of Clemson because 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:29.720 I I said something on social media. I was, I 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:31.680 forget exactly what I said. You got all upset though, 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:35.520 he very offended and uh and so I'd be worried 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:37.520 about him, Bruce, if he goes to New York, because 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:40.720 if you can't handle criticism from a blowhard like me, 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.800 can you imagine what the New York The few tough 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.119 guys left in the New York media would do to 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.439 Deshaun Watson. It would not go well. It would not 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:51.080 go well. It won't listen. I uh And then uh, 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:53.120 I don't have to I don't have to blow beate 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:55.720 for you. You know, I'm off and up at the 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:57.960 times that a lot of time that you're on because 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:01.760 I'm doing my preparation work. And I listened to about 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:03.800 your Twitter wars and all this, and you know, I 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:07.520