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Speaker 1: and not not David Gascon. He's not here this weekend

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Speaker 1: a spinoff of the Overnight Show, The Ben Mallard Show,

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Speaker 1: only available right here in the podcast world. And thank

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Speaker 1: you for finding We do appreciate that. Otherwise, why are

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Speaker 1: your podcast. Tell a friend, Tell a friend, and also

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Speaker 1: tell a friend about cameo. Cameo. I'm not gonna waste

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Speaker 1: your time with a lot of these promotions and all that,

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Speaker 1: but but I do love Cameo. I'm on there and

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Speaker 1: you can find me Ben Maller personalized video messages if

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Speaker 1: you're a brigadier general, a P one super fan, if

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Speaker 1: you want me to rant about something. I had a

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Speaker 1: Laker apologist who called up and said, hey, you you

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. He's not a couple of times that schmuck?

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Speaker 1: How dare him? So? I did that? Uh? And also

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Speaker 1: obviously on social media if you don't follow me on

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Speaker 1: there already, it's Ben Maller's show on Facebook and Ben

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Speaker 1: Mallor on Fox on Instagram and just Ben Mallard on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: So I am excited to bring this person on today.

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Speaker 1: Is one of my favorite people in sports radio. I

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Speaker 1: don't you know that. I have a very strong opinions

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Speaker 1: about what's good and what's not. I like entertainment, I

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Speaker 1: like passion, strong opinions, and I like people that are prepared.

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Speaker 1: He checks every box. Plus I know him, I've worked

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Speaker 1: with him, I've met him. Bruce Jacobs. Now, if you're

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Speaker 1: a longtime connoisseur of Fox Sports Radio, and many of

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Speaker 1: you are, but maybe not you, Bruce Jacobs was part

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Speaker 1: of the network the first decade or so of Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. He is the most passionate New York Jets

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Speaker 1: been on the radio for many, many years. He's a

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Speaker 1: with Bruce, and we welcome in Bruce Jacobs. The reason, Bruce,

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Speaker 1: that I wanted to catch up with you, and you're

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Speaker 1: aware of this, obviously I booked you, is that in

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Speaker 1: early October of we had a conversation. I believe I

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Speaker 1: appeared on your your Morning show. We were talking about

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Speaker 1: the Kyler murray or something along those lines. So anyways,

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Speaker 1: like October of last year, and we had made a

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Speaker 1: about a month away. I said that Donald Trump was

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Speaker 1: gonna be Joe Biden that's gonna win. And here we are.

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Speaker 1: Biden was sworn in the other day as the President

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Speaker 1: of the United States. So I'm paying up my bet.

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Speaker 1: I am a man of integrity, Bruce, I am a

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Speaker 1: man of honor. Congratulations, But how does it feel to

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Speaker 1: win that bet? Well, Bet, it's nice to talk to you, man, Okay.

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Speaker 1: It's it's good to hear from your brother. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I made a lot of bets over the years. I've

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Speaker 1: And I'll be honest with you, I am sorry that

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Speaker 1: with you, Yes, I did lose that, bet, Ben. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The upside is I get to spend some time with you.

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Speaker 1: be interesting things to talk about, Bruce. It won't be

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Speaker 1: So have you been paying up your dues Bruce's and

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Speaker 1: We formed the band called Ruse and the Wolfie Three.

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Speaker 1: What what happened to our business with so many the

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Speaker 1: a Jet. And I love Jet Pennington, but he's not great. Um,

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Speaker 1: I gotta see one great Jet quarterback. And Watson is

424
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: still young enough to be a Jet when all is

425
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: said and done. Yeah, all right. I like the fact

426
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: that you're willing to trade all the draft picks, because

427
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: that's another peeple, all of them. Yeah, I agree to that.

428
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm so annoyed you can't trade draft picks. Oh my god, No,

429
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: every and they think every draft pick is going to

430
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: turn out to be an all pro. And it's like,

431
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,479
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen enough, Bruce, of these draft picks.

432
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Speaker 1: And you, as a Jets fan more than anybody, these

433
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Speaker 1: guys that are drafting the top ten that have all

434
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: this hyperbole around them, and how great they're gonna be,

435
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: and most of them are either mediocre or completely worthless

436
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: compared to the hype that they had before the draft. Yet, yeah,

437
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: I looked at these teams that perpetually don't have a

438
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: cool are back, okay. And I looked at the quarterbacks

439
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: that they have drafted high in the middle. Okay. The Jets.

440
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: We've drafted Mark Sanchez. That's that's top level for us.

441
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: That's mediocre. We've drafted the biggest bum, Christian Hackenberg, who,

442
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: by the way, Ben and you, I don't know if

443
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: you ever asked the sir tribute. There's only three guys,

444
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks who have been drafted since the merger in

445
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: the first two rounds that have not seen the playing

446
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: field for their team. Only three. Jim Kelly because he

447
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: was drafted by Uh. He went, I'm sorry in his

448
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: first two years. I apologize. That was the last part

449
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: of it. So did not see the field in the

450
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: first two years. Jim Kelly. But that's a trick because

451
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: he played for the Houston Gamblers. The second one was

452
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Speaker 1: a guy drafted by the Euston Oilers, and I forgot

453
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Speaker 1: the dude's name. In nineteen seventy and the second one

454
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Speaker 1: is Christian Ackenberg. He's only the third top two pick

455
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: since the merger to be drafted and never saw the

456
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: field for his team. So the guys we drafted, the

457
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: kid from Baalor I forgot his name, ran all Brile's

458
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: offense there, so high take flowed. I looked at the

459
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: Cardinals because you know, like cover of the Cardinals, they

460
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: drafted Matt Liner's. Um, oh my goodness. I had a list,

461
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: and I say to the Chicago Bears, look at the

462
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that they have drafted. You wouldn't give up three

463
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: number one for us first an established star right now?

464
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: You're crazy? That's a gift. Three number one, no problem

465
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Speaker 1: every day. No, I'm right there with you. I Draft

466
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: picks are lottery tickets there. You know, most lottery tickets

467
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: you don't win in. So it's I'm I'm in complete agreement.

468
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: And that stand Hinky guy or Sam Hickey rather the

469
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: GM of the the Sixers with that whole trust in

470
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: the process, and he made that cool and all that.

471
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: I hate that guy. I'm glad he's not working in sports.

472
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 1: I it's such an annoyance. Sure to catch live editions

473
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Speaker 1: of The Ben Meller Show weekdays at two a m.

474
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Speaker 1: Eastern eleven pm Pacific. I want to go back to you, Bruce,

475
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Speaker 1: as a radio savant. How many markets have you worked

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Speaker 1: in over the years. I know you've been in Phoenix

477
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: a lot. You were on the East Coast, and you're

478
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: in Albany, I believe for a while. I think you

479
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: started in New York. How many other places have you

480
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: been bouncing around the country doing radio? So we're talking

481
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: local or yeah, local markets? Uh, New York and Phoenix,

482
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: those are the only two. And and I've been nationale

483
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: for Fox. And let's just say a couple of peons. Well,

484
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: I thought you didn't you work with Arnie at the

485
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,239
Speaker 1: Were you in Chicago? Or no? You did you do

486
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: that work with was was the afternoon guy? Uh? In Phoenix?

487
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: In fact, Annie Spaniard is the first guy Ben to

488
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: ever put me on the air. I must have told

489
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: you I can do you on. I'm I'm like overnight

490
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: board up and I had a regular job, sales job,

491
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: and I'm watching It was during the NHL playoffs and

492
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: you know, like, uh, like your boy, my boy Eddie Garcia. Okay,

493
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: love the NHL and love the playoffs. So I'm sitting

494
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: there Ben, and I'm watching it was a first round.

495
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: We won the cup this year. Uh, and I'm watching

496
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: the first round of My boss comes up to me

497
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: and Ben, I do not embellish on this at all, Okay,

498
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: he says to me. Hey, it was a retail store.

499
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: He says to me, I want you to go and

500
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: dust the tops of those refrigerators. So I very kindly

501
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: said to him, listen, I don't touch the time. I

502
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: don't toust the top of the refrigery to my own house,

503
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna do it here. My job is

504
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: to sell. There ain't no customers, so customer walks and

505
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sell them something. Olways, I'm gonna watch this

506
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: hockey game. Next day, I go in. I got fired

507
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: for in subordination. The radio station called me. I'm a

508
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: weekend board up. They said, hey, we need you to

509
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: come in and run the board because we have a

510
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: meeting with everybody and there's nobody to I was, okay,

511
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: no problem, I'm available. I go in an audio tell

512
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: you and Arnie's doing the afternoon show and he said

513
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: to me, and I've seen him in the always a

514
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: couple of times and whatnot, you know, and he's the

515
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: big the BMOC. Okay, he runs. He used the sports

516
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: guy in town. And he says to me, he goes, hey,

517
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: you're a hockey fan, right, big hockey fans. Why'd you

518
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: come on the air. We'll talk some hockey, will take

519
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: some calls. Okay. Then I never ran the board. After that,

520
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: I got a call from the general manager. Hey, that's that.

521
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: I started doing some on air updates and blah blah blah.

522
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Speaker 1: But if the want Arnie Spaniard, you know, I may

523
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: never have gotten a chance. I may have and I

524
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: may not. So he's the first guy that ever put

525
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: me on the air in a major market. So you

526
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: are on Arnie Spaniards Radio Tree as the big star.

527
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: And then I am sure Arnie said others. And then

528
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: didn't you work with Mike Golic before he became the

529
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: Mike and Mike guy. You were with him right and Phoenix,

530
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: didn't you do some stuff with him? Yeah? So after

531
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: Arnie left and blah blah blah, change the ownership, blah

532
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. The new program director who his

533
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: name is Chris Visor, brother of Leslie Business San Diego, guy. Right.

534
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: I think I might have crossed paths with him at

535
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: the mighty six ninety back in you know you probably

536
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: did San Diego Denver. Uh, And they hired him here

537
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: in Phoenix. And the funnies thing is is that I

538
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: had I was Arnie got Arnie got let go. And

539
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: actually Arnie called me when I was on vacation. I

540
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: was vacation. He says, Hey, when you come back. I

541
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: was a producer at this time. He says, I just

542
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: want to let you know. And Arnie were I were friends.

543
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: He says, listen, I want to let you know you're

544
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: gonna get fired. You know, I'm just a young guy.

545
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: Ben right. He's like, yeah, they're they're getting rid of

546
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: a producer and the and the guy who ran the

547
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: place with a slob and an idiot, and he didn't

548
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: like me and whatever you don't like. He didn't like

549
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: people from New York. So when I came back, they

550
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: told me he actually came into the studio while I

551
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: was doing a fill in show. Anyway, long story, short

552
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: ter calls me and uh, he got ahold of my

553
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: audio because he asked for audio from all the on

554
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: air people, and uh, he listened to mine, and he

555
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: called me and he said, hey, don't go, don't go

556
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: looking for work. I'll be in town in a weekend.

557
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: I want you to come and see me. So he

558
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: hired me back, and he brought in Mike Golick and uh,

559
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: he put Mike and I together, who worked here for

560
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: shat under three years, and it was great. I mean,

561
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: he's he was just an awesome, awesome he's just awesome individual,

562
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: awesome human being and an awesome radio partner. Yeah, and

563
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: then he went onto that Mike and Mike thing forever

564
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: and ever and ever. So you've been in the Phoenix

565
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: market for a very long time here, Bruce. Now you

566
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: do your morning show? Is it all cardinals, d backs

567
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: and science? It's not right. You do national stuff. You

568
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: do a lot of national stuff too, righte. You mix

569
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: it up? Oh sure, because remember this is this very

570
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: transition here. Um. So you know it's still top five

571
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: for people moving from other places. So yeah, I mean, obviously, Ben,

572
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: you know it's Phoenix, so you know, um, but we

573
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: do not. Oh okay, listen, look what are we gonna

574
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: what is our eight cardinal topic today? God? Though, who

575
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: they'll want the list of that? Um? No, no, I mean,

576
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: we we hit the headlines and then we hit the

577
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: stuff that nobody else often has based on culling of information, opinion,

578
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: just whatever. And then by all means, listen, I'm going

579
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: to spend a large part of this hanging on the

580
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: Brooklyn nets. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?

581
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: I don't know there's a team outside of the Dolphins

582
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: of the Yankees. I want to lose more games. Okay.

583
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: I love that Cavalier game last night, by the way, Okay,

584
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: that was watching watching a nine pounds sex and destroy

585
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: their backcourt was beautiful. So yeah, listen, man, we we

586
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: have up front, but I'm not you know, it's one

587
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: of the great places, and you know this will be

588
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: the last stop on my train. One of the great

589
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: things for me is I do not get micro managed

590
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: by seventeen bosses, ten say else people, eight marketing people,

591
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: and somebody along the chain there is upset with something

592
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: I said. So you know it's uh, you know, your professional,

593
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: but free rein your professional, be a professional, be an idiot,

594
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: and yeah, it up absolutely That was a former cowboy.

595
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: So um, I'm a jet fan. I mean, god, did

596
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: anybody really just spend four hours only talking about local

597
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 1: Is that is that really going on? Because if that is,

598
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: that's a losing ticket. Yeah, well I I filled in it.

599
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: I did some shows at w e I for a

600
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: while it was pretty much all like you know, just

601
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots and Red Sox and Celtics. That was pretty

602
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: much and really rarely the Celtics on that. But I

603
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: like what you said about not having a bunch of

604
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: people meddling with you. And that's one of the reasons

605
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: I love doing the overnight show, Bruce. As you know,

606
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: management typically not listening in the middle of the night,

607
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: so we have a little more freedom to do what

608
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: we want to do, which is which is pretty cool

609
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: there in the oh. I I didn't bring up the

610
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: big Mets trade Francisco Indoor. Have you gotten your Francisco

611
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: Indoor Jersey, Bruce, it's coming your level on a scale

612
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: of one to ten. Your level of excitement when Francisco

613
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: Indoor it was announced that he had been traded the Mets.

614
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: All right, your level of excitement and you found out

615
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: the Mets GM was sending pictures of his twigging berries

616
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: out to the women years ago. How do I answer that, Ben?

617
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: How would you let me handle that serious or I

618
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: can just pass on it, like, uh, when will you when?

619
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Speaker 1: When will you be starting? Is the next GM of

620
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: the Mets? Have you sent your resume in yet to

621
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: the new ownership group there? Well, i'll tell you, Ben,

622
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm glad that they didn't start. And Springer. I can't

623
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 1: believe that dude got millions in here. I mean shooting

624
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: to sixty. I thought there was no money in this game. Um. Hey,

625
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: if the Mets can get ballor and I don't know

626
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: if they will, but if they can get ballot, even

627
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: if they don't, we have a very good team. We're

628
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: coming after your Dodgers, Ben, Um, No, I actually have

629
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Speaker 1: I actually have said this. I think the Dodgers have

630
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: the chance to be a real good a dynasty. Uh

631
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: that's how good they can be. But I think we

632
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Speaker 1: can be better than you. If we can get Trevor ballot,

633
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: then look out, big boy. You'll have to Hey, you'll

634
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: have to look shout for you to San Diego for

635
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: some trouble. But make sure you glance east because we're coming. Baby,

636
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: We're coming to kick some ass. Watch out for the Mets. No,

637
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: I am worried about the Padres. I like teams that,

638
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: like the Mets are have been aggressive here, the Padres,

639
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: even the Blue Jays. I don't agree with that the

640
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: Blue Jays have done. But I'm so sick of these

641
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 1: teams that just sit on their hands and they don't

642
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: do anything in the off season. And you know, as

643
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: far as the Dodgers, the thing that worries me here,

644
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: and let me be very clear, the the executive, the

645
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: big shot, this guy stand casting, who I'm sure you're

646
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: very familiar with, but he was in Atlanta when the

647
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: Braves you referenced them earlier. They made the playoffs all

648
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: the time, and they had the nineties dynasty and spilled

649
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: over into the two thousands. But that's the model. The

650
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: Dodgers model is, Hey, let's just make the playoffs every

651
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: year and then we'll win, you know, a couple of

652
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: championships along the way. The Braves only one one. The

653
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: Dodgers have won one. But really, Bruce, you'd admit they

654
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: should have won two, right because the Astros were cheating

655
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: in and you know, that's a bull crap championship for

656
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: the Astros. Yes, question about it. Listen, I think the

657
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: Dodgers have a chance. Let me rephrase, uh dynasty is

658
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: too simple. I think they have a chance to be

659
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: the best baseball team I've seen. And I hate to

660
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: say this, but you know, there's my opinion, there's my

661
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: at and there's a tax. Right yeah, but you know,

662
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: since since those great Yankee teams at the turn of

663
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: the century, Okay, um, I think they maybe even better.

664
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean they're just loaded and young, and I I agree, man,

665
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: they probably should have to and uh, I just hope that.

666
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: I hope that. Man if we could get Trevor Bauer, boy,

667
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: oh boy, man, oh man, we could be so good.

668
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: Of course, we still have that as SeMet fans call

669
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: him f and Diaz closing games, but you know, hopefully

670
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: that won't last too long. We did bring in big

671
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: Trevor May, so there you go, there you go, Trevor May. Uh.

672
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: And now, Bruce, I believe at your house you are

673
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: you were living with a non Jets fan? Is that correct?

674
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: Is it is your your wife a Bills fan? Is

675
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: that right? My wife is a die hard Bills fan.

676
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: That is her favorite team. She's from. Um, well, she

677
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: likes to consider herself for a a New Yorker, but hey,

678
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: if you live in Buffalo, you're not a New Yorker

679
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: and be she'll only lived there until she was about

680
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: to sick. But she is a huge Bills fans, So

681
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, I you know, you know how this goes,

682
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: Ben being a married man, happy wife, happy life, blah

683
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: blah blah. And uh here's the thing though, Ben, and

684
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: she can't hear me right now. You know she's working

685
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: from home. I gotta be honest, Ben. My favorite non

686
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: Jet player is Patrick Mahomes. Okay, maybe I think it's

687
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the greatest quarterback I'll ever see. And

688
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: god do I love to watch him play. He just

689
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: and I'm not an offensive guy. I like defense, but

690
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: there's something about him that's just I've never seen it

691
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: before and I don't think I'll ever see it again.

692
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: He's magic to me. He's so he's so freaking great.

693
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: He's unbelievable. Um. So, I you know the chiefs are man,

694
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, and but I'll roll with my wife

695
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: and you know I'll work for the Bills and un

696
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: because it's a good I mean, the petals are really good.

697
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you guys love Josh Allen man,

698
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: I mean you know I love that kid. Yeah, Bruce, Like,

699
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: what do you do? You guys have wagers because every

700
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: year the Jets and Bills are gonna play twice forever

701
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: and ever they're in the same division. So how's it

702
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: work in the house? You guys make bets. You're watching

703
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: separate rooms. How's how's it work? Okay, so I'm married

704
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: for about a year and a half, but uh, seriously,

705
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: dating for five years. We've sucked and I've kept my

706
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: mouth shut. That's how it's worked. Simple, simple enough, simple enough. Now, Okay,

707
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: she lets me know about it. But no, she's she's

708
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: the opposite to me. She's a gracious loser. But she's not.

709
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: Excuse me, she's she's a gracious winner. She's not a

710
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: good loser. I'm a great loser because that's all I've

711
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: ever done is lose. That's what I know. I don't

712
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: know anything else. Man, I'm not a good winner because

713
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: when my team's wins, I will let you know about it. Yeah,

714
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: all right, well, Bruce, And how now you have a

715
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: lot of fans. You know, I know you've been at

716
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: Fox for a few years now, but do you got

717
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: you know, I'll bring your name up every once in

718
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: a while and I'll get people where's Bruce that I

719
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,959
Speaker 1: want to hear Bruce? I miss Bruce. Bring Bruce back,

720
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: you know, like a management I can bring you back.

721
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: But you have your you have a great gig in Phoenix.

722
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: And and how can people hear you? Everything's online these days,

723
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: so I'm sure people can stream the show if they

724
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: want to hear get a little Bruce. Jacob's fixed in

725
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: the in the morning. And how can they find you? Well,

726
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: you can find me. Well, I'm not on Twitter. We've

727
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: already established that. You can find me on Facebook. And

728
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: you can find me at eighties of fanatic dot com.

729
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: And we go six to ten am right now. It's

730
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: Mountain standard time. The other half of the year, Ben,

731
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: we're on your time, Pacific standard time because we don't

732
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: change clocks here. Uh. So that's how you can find me.

733
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: And I you know, listen. Uh there's a bunch of people.

734
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: Um uh still contact me and you know, I listen.

735
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: You get to work for a great company, you get

736
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: to be a great markets and fun markets and you

737
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: get Eddie Garcia. For heaven's sakes, anytime you get Eddie Garcia,

738
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna have fun. So uh, I appreciate that. And uh,

739
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, I thoroughly enjoyed good partners, great bosses, and

740
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: uh and uh, man, there's something about overnight. Bet you're

741
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: the king of it. Okay, you are the man and

742
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not brown nose, and I mean you're

743
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: the man. You're the late night guy. Uh. You may

744
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: be the best who has ever done it. And there's

745
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: so there's a certain there's a certain love for that,

746
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: and you kind of able to connect with listeners that

747
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't think you can do in any other day

748
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: part in any other in any other market, you know,

749
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: I know, excuse me, maybe in some local markets. But

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00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: there's something, there's a there's a relationship when you do

751
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: the overnights that you can establish with listeners. Um, that

752
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: I think is unique. Yeah, I completely agree with you.

753
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: I I you know, I've been early on, I did

754
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: mid days, and I did some other day parts. I

755
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: think I've done the full radio cycle where I've been

756
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: on at all all different hours. But what is your favorite?

757
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I do like the overnights. I've always been

758
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: a night person. I've always been more nocturnal. I've been

759
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: more I feel like I'm more creative at night. I'm

760
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: not a morning person. I I don't know how you

761
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: do it, Bruce. I did morning radio. I did updates,

762
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: and I was like a sidekick on a morning show

763
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: for I think it was a year and a half.

764
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: And it was the worst year and a half of

765
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: my career because I hated I could not get up.

766
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: I I tried to stay up all night and then

767
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: make it like an overnight show, but that didn't work.

768
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: My body clock was all messed up. And you'd think

769
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: after a few months I would be able to adjust. Like,

770
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 1: and you've kind of done that the right. You tell

771
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: me you stay up all night getting ready for the show.

772
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: When when do you sleep? Yeah, so when you're awake,

773
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm asleep. And when you're asleep, I'm a lake. You know.

774
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I did afternoons. I don't know if

775
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: you know. If you but Brian no Fox is Brian

776
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: no He and I worked together in New York and

777
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: he was my boss. Uh and uh. I did afternoon

778
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: drive and that's okay, but not for me. And I

779
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: did enjoy the overnight very much, but for me, morning

780
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: drive morning. And I've done morning drive most of my

781
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: most of my career. At least you know local. Okay,

782
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: here Phoenix. You know, when I've been here for a

783
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: good ben it's like twenty seven, twenty eight years minus

784
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: a few years in New York and doing national out

785
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: of Chicago. I've been here for most of that time,

786
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: and the most of it's been Morning Drive, and I

787
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: wouldn't change the thing still even today. You know a

788
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: lot of morning people. They get glumpy years, they get older. Okay,

789
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: you're having to get up in the morning and everything

790
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: not me um, And I'm usually up preparing um and

791
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: watching and viewing and blah blah blah and listening more

792
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: often or not to your show and doing my thing. Well,

793
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: everybody else is sleeping, and uh man, I do love

794
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: Morning Drive. There's nothing like it. Well, you're you're one

795
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: of the greats, Bruce, I mean that man, mutual admiration

796
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: in society. Hey, before I before I move on here,

797
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: any any Eddie Garcia's stories. I know Eddie told me

798
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: a story that he met you in Phoenix and you

799
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: took him to a fish restaurant. Is that is that accurate?

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00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: I remember him telling the story, um several I think

801
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: it was a year or two years ago, something like that. Well,

802
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I don't like to take credit for things, right,

803
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: but you know, I say I deserve a little bit.

804
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: Eddie might not be married to his wife. Uh if

805
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: not for me. Now I did not introduce them. Actually,

806
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, hey, hey Karen, this is Eddie. But she

807
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: she used to she was Katie. Okay, that was she

808
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: used to call the show. And she loved the dogs.

809
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: Ben loved. If you know her, and you do know her,

810
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: I do. He loved dogs, okay, So she loved She

811
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: would call and she say, let me talk to the dogs, okay.

812
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: And you know, and somehow, and I don't remember the transition,

813
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: you have to go over with uh with e Garcia.

814
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: Somehow they met and um and Eddie and I, you know,

815
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: he did a lot of work. We did a lot

816
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: of work together. And they met and yeah, they came

817
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: out of here again. Who was during super Bowl week?

818
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: And you know his life is just awesome. Bless her soul,

819
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: bless her loving soul and our loves vastly overrated Philip Rivers.

820
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: I'll get a message from Martial lamp paste me. Um

821
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: and uh uh yeah, I mean Eddie's you know, what

822
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: can you say? Man? Another guy who stood the test

823
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: of time and is a great broadcaster. And uh, at

824
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: the time, Patton, you know, he and I were I

825
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: think the only two guys really that chopped it up

826
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: on on the puckage at at the network for the

827
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: most part. Anyway, Yeah, no, I think that's still the case.

828
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: By the way, I think the he's the only guy

829
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: laugh that actually talks about talks about hockey. Hey he

830
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll tell you this, man, I mean, he

831
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: knows the game. And uh so you wad him. And look,

832
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: I mean guys like to say you got all those guys. Man,

833
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: there's just so many great guys that that that worked there.

834
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: Uh you know, uh and still do. I mean, you know,

835
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: I know Brian know very well and any obviously both

836
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: friends of mine and blah blah blah, and uh but yeah,

837
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: talking a little bity credit for for Eddie Garcia and

838
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: he control in any blanks. But safe to say if

839
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: I didn't work at Fox, Eddie Garcia would not be

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Speaker 1: married to Karen Garcia. There you go, all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much, have a wonderful rest of your

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Speaker 1: your weekend, right and well okay, yeah, well I'm glad.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to spend the time with you. But I'm

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Speaker 1: not glad I won the bet. I'm pissed over the

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Speaker 1: circumstances of me being on your program. Here, I just

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Speaker 1: want to point out when I made the bed, a

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Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that ended up happening hadn't happened yet.

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Speaker 1: But you called your shot, and you you gotta right.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thank you, Bruce, all right, thank you Ben.

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Speaker 1: Be well