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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Jaguars Broadcast Week and review podcasts presented

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Speaker 1: by t I A. A Bank JP shatterck with you.

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Speaker 1: Today is Friday, June nineteen. Let's get right into the

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Speaker 1: best of the broadcast week. We start this week with

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Speaker 1: the ozone podcast. From Monday, John Hosier visited with Director

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Speaker 1: of player Development Marcus Pollard and running backs coach Terry Robiski,

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Speaker 1: two men who have been important pieces of the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: social justice and racial equality initiatives. Both spoke during the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars march to the Jacksonville Sheriff's office steps, and Robiski

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Speaker 1: was nearly moved to tears that day talking about the

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Speaker 1: organization's involvement. Robinski has been involved in the NFL since

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven as a player and then from the

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Speaker 1: early eighties as an assistant coach. He explained to Osha

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Speaker 1: a little bit of his background and why this movement

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Speaker 1: feels different. I grew up in an environment where I

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Speaker 1: didn't it wasn't really there wasn't white people in my environment.

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Speaker 1: And again maybe marcus A situation was different. I don't

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Speaker 1: know Marcus is high school, his elementary school. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know who was his classmates. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: But I tell people I grew up in a hometown

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Speaker 1: I never saw white kids in high school until we

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Speaker 1: Even when America said, uh, we're gonna integrate. We had

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Speaker 1: better players and scholarships. But nobody left that white school

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Speaker 1: on the other side of that, leave from there, and

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Speaker 1: I signed a scholarship with one of the largest white

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Speaker 1: white people. The twenty five thousand white students on the campus,

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Speaker 1: you know, and it was only seven of us when

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Speaker 1: so we all loved everybody, you know. So, like you said,

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Speaker 1: Marcus talked to Peyton on one side and then talked

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Speaker 1: I understand all of it. But the thing I'll say

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Speaker 1: is the things I have seen in recent days. When

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Speaker 1: when the mayor says that statue is coming down, Marcuts,

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Speaker 1: you gotta know it's it's changing. You better believe you

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Speaker 1: better believe it's changing, you know. And that's why when

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Speaker 1: years that we marched. We marched against an all white

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Speaker 1: is all my life at that little bitty school down

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Speaker 1: were always the blacks that didn't matter. You understand. Um,

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Speaker 1: you understand. And what I'm saying is for me is

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Speaker 1: Doug Marone and Dave Carlwell was on the other side

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Speaker 1: Doug Marone is comfortable to sit down and talk about

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Speaker 1: never in my whole entire life had I ever seen that.

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Speaker 1: You understand? And again, you know I and tell you

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Speaker 1: So that is movement in itself that's unbelievable to believe

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Speaker 1: again into the ozone mail bag. Let's get right into it.

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Speaker 1: Nathan from St. Augustine as the first question, assuming they

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Speaker 1: hold training camps. How do you think of training camp

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Speaker 1: been no on field work since last season. Well, and

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Speaker 1: this is a different question than what we just feel that.

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Speaker 1: you to go run it. They'll go slower. Todd wash

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Speaker 1: Do you think the season will start as scheduled? Yeah,

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