1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: The Manowa Caves is intended for mature audiences. It contains 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: strong language and depictions of bullying, violence, and sexual assault 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: that some may find disturbing. Listener discretion is advised. Also, 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: this is an extremely immersive experience and headphones are recommended. 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Manawat Caves, a production of iHeartRadio, 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: Blumhouse Television and Psycopia Pictures. Fuck fuck, I just I 7 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: just woke up to the sound of my own screams. 8 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: The lights are still on, and I must have fallen 9 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: asleep put them on. I remember laying down to go 10 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: to sleep, and Manna. A figure appeared in the corner 11 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: of my room, bearded and where oil soaked coveralls, blackened 12 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: and rotten, and a tattered red scarf around his neck. 13 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: The scarf, it was familiar, but I couldn't place it. 14 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: This figure, part man, part shadow. This gray man just 15 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: stood there watching me. His body was stooped, his face 16 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: was too long, job stretched in pain, like he was 17 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: stranded in permanent anguish. I was paralyzed in my bed 18 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: while the gray man came closer and closer, not walking, 19 00:01:48,800 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: just somehow closer crashed h I'll get seconds three thirty 20 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: three am. I just listened to my last entry, my 21 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: last recording about an um a nightmare. I UM. I 22 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: have no memory of it, not of the nightmare or 23 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: or or they're they're gray man. I don't remember recording 24 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: the entry, none of it. M I tried to stay away, 25 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: but it found me. It's been pulling me back. I 26 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: give her since and I know in my core that 27 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: it's not gonna stop until I see James Fincher set free. 28 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: I have trouble remembering that time in our lives, but 29 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: I remember that day we found him six times. But 30 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: if you want to find out who was behind this, 31 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: he should find out what Smith knew follow his tracks. 32 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: August second, twenty twenty one. The fog. I hoped it 33 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: would clear, but it's only gotten thicker the longer I 34 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: stay here. Every minute I remain in Maniwa County, In 35 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: every minute, James Fincher's execution draws nearer, the thinker the 36 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: fall gets. I needed to go away for good this time. 37 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: I need to set things right. But the only way 38 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: to do that is to find out who or what 39 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: really killed the Hadley brothers. Now, I'm not a homicide 40 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: detective or even an investigative journalist. But I know this town, 41 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: I know these people. Detective Solomon Smith didn't, but he 42 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: believed James Fincher was innocent. He came on board the 43 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: Hadley Brothers murder investigation for a time, at least before 44 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: Ye disappeared. If I can trace his steps, maybe I 45 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: can back up the trail, finish what he started. Detective Smith, 46 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: he was the only one in the whole Lord deal 47 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: that seemed among justice, the only one who knew somehow, 48 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: he knew that James Fincher didn't kill those kids. So 49 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: now there's no one left to fight for James except 50 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: you and his sister Dina, and the attorney. And now 51 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: you looks like I met up with Jill again. Jill Campbell. 52 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: At the time of the Hadley Brothers murder investigation, she 53 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: was one of Sheriff Hooper's deputies. Now she's a mitigation 54 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: specialist on the Fincher defense appeals letters. Any tools she 55 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: can use to mitigate and reduce his sentence to anything, 56 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: anything less than death. What do you think Detective Smith knew? 57 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 1: From a homicide detective's point of view, there's no way 58 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: he would have crossed Fincher off of his suspect list 59 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: unless he knew he was innocent. And the only way 60 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: he could have known that is either Fincher had an 61 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: alibi or he uncovered who the killer really was. He 62 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: was on to something, though, that's for sure soon so 63 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: maybe he had proof, but he was reluctant to come forward, 64 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: not solemn. From what I understand about the man, the 65 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: idea that he was ever reluctant is unlikely. Either way, 66 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: he vanished before he could say anything even if he 67 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: wanted to. I'm beside who in the Sheriff's department would 68 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: have listened anyway? They already caught their killer, James Fincher. Okay, 69 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: Argust third, three thirty four am. Just that day, Um, 70 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: an interesting thing happened. I couldn't sleep because this mortel 71 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: ricks and mothballs and mold, plus the sec fan won't 72 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: shut the fuck up. Jill gave me a stack of 73 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: court documents and recordings that she had obtained from Finch's trial. 74 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: So I left my motel a few hours ago, decided 75 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: to take a little drive up into the mountains while 76 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: listening to them angel evidence discovered at the scene of 77 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: the crime. Remember these red wolf fibers there was no 78 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: other identifiable DNA found at the crime scene other than 79 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: the DNA from Thomas and Deacon Hadley. I turned on 80 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: Mathison Road. It's a road I grew up on above 81 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: Spalding Gorge to Windon Mountain Road that goes by my 82 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: old house, what's left of it anyway. Fibers imbedded in 83 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: Thomas's fingernails and as I drove, the fog sit in. 84 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: I also noticed some headlights in my rear view. Didn't 85 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: think much of it, trying to focus on the recordings 86 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 1: from the trial, and the static was taken over again again, 87 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: so I had to crank the volume. I had to 88 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: lean into the car speaker in order to hear the voices. 89 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: The tape the only one year with an oct imagination. 90 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: It was as if they were trying to crawl out 91 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: from the vault They've been locked in for over a decade. 92 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: James finer and as I drove, the fog got thick, fast, 93 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: still thick. I was squinting to see twenty feet ahead 94 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: just to see the winding road. I had to slow 95 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: way down, and before long the headlights were rite on 96 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: my ass. I couldn't make out the car, but when 97 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: I looked back at the world. The gray man. Jesus, 98 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: the fog was so thick I didn't see them until 99 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: I almost hit them, the gray man standing there in 100 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: the middle of the fucking road when I rounded the 101 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: bed right, God damn. It turns out the car behind 102 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: me was a Sheriff's deputy evening officer. Thanks for stopping. 103 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: There was a there was a figure just standing, And 104 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: so the prodigal son returns, excuse me, way, Tamper, Dowey, Tamper, 105 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: Julian Right, you're a you're a long man now, Huh 106 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: that a bear cane and floorboard? What I say, is 107 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: that a bear cane and a floorboard? No, that was earlier. Duey, 108 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: I just ran off the road. And how much you 109 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: had to drink tonight? Are you serious? You know? Six 110 00:09:54,640 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: six to radio? What I gotta coach? Seven? How many? 111 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: Did you just step out of the car? What I 112 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: almost just died? Are you are you like? Are you 113 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: like messing with me? Or some account of the car 114 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: walk to the back of the automobile. Jesus, Well, I 115 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: gotta make sure you're like to operate this veible. What 116 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: you're doing back here? Anyway? I thought we run you 117 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: out of time for good. Oh, don't worry. I'm just 118 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: visiting who my mother's grave. How the hell is that 119 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: fucking relevance? You making me walk a line? Duly? Well? Hell, 120 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm just making conversation, is all. Who was you so 121 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: nervous for what I'm not? Look, I just ran off 122 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: the fucking road for Christ's sakes. Man, You ain't been 123 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: smoking under that wacky weed, have you? What? No? I 124 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: know you and Tyler Wilson used to light up back 125 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: in the day, and you didn't know if I put 126 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: a sniffing dog and you car what am I gona fine? 127 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: Legal drugs? May hope you don't got no concealed weapons 128 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: on you anything like that? You sure? Oh you know 129 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: where I forgot about the nunshockers? You want to pat 130 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: me down? D O? You'd like that, wouldn't. You don't 131 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: get smart with me, solace, Just turn and face me. 132 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: But you fake together with your hands down by your side, Yes, sir, 133 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: all right, follow the tip of my finger with your 134 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: eyes without moving your head. Do you understand? Ye? Did 135 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: I pass? I guess you knowld You look at better 136 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: than you used to. Kid. You're done? See, I thought 137 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: you were may be in town for the big show 138 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: to see your old buddy James Fincher get the jab. 139 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: I know you too, are thick as thieves in those days. 140 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be quiet the spectator sport. How long are 141 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: you following me? What's that you've been telling me for 142 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: a while? How long you've been following me? Look, we 143 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: were never that social back in the day, but because 144 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: we do go back a long ways, I'm give you 145 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: a bit of advice between you and me, I wouldn't 146 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: go digging around stirring up trouble if I was you. 147 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: It's passed if you just let things play out the 148 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: way they're supposed to the way they're supposed to. Enjoy 149 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: your visit. August third, one, twenty pm. The smell of 150 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: this damn mountain there, the mind flashes back. Then there 151 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: are some good memories, but mostly the town feels haunted. 152 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: I can feel the aches of old grudges in my limbs, 153 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: no matter how much I've tried to repress them. All 154 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: the old feelings to live there in my gut like snakes, rage, sorrow. 155 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remain calm, objective, and partial. I'm trying 156 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: to assume a moral ambiguity here, even as I recall 157 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: the lowest, most unforgivable types of people that still inhabit 158 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: this town. Anyway, I'm supposed to meet Joe Campbell for lunch, 159 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: but I'm late. I overslept. Doesn't feel like I'm going 160 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: to sleep at all, though I finally passed out around 161 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: seven this morning. Listening to the police interrogation tapes. You know, 162 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: my goddamn day. I just need you to state at Griff, 163 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: something about Griff Washington's interviews bugging me, Edward Washington, There 164 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: wasn't so hard. We appreciate your cooperation. We just need 165 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: your help right now. We need all the intel we 166 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: can get. Fine, But it don't seem like you're asking 167 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: for my That dog of yours, he was pretty messed up, Griff. 168 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: There's a lot of blood. He's a meaning sile bit sheriff. 169 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: But he's a good dog. He had to sedate him. 170 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: That's probably for the best. I have caging, and I 171 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: don't want him to getting fights and hurt animals or 172 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: people or anything. When's the last time he got into 173 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: a fight. Hell, I don't know. He got loose, He 174 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: got loose, and then he just came back all torn up. Yeah. Hell, 175 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: that dog's face looks like ground beef. Like. I don't 176 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: know what to tell you, Kirby. Those kids broke the 177 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: law and not me. They were trespassing on my goddamn property, 178 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: all right, my property. Now, what happened to them is 179 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: a real tragedy, and I feel for their mom and daddy. 180 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: If that ain't no excuse to go violating my right, 181 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: how exactly are your right to being violated? I'm being 182 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: held against my will? No, No, you're not. Did I 183 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: or anybody else read you your rights that we tell 184 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: you that you were under arrest? Are you saying I'm 185 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: afraid to go? Griff? We have two boys found dead 186 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: on your property. Now, all I ever asked for was 187 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: your help. But you kept a dog that you knew 188 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: to be vicious. That's on you. There are regulations in 189 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: this county for keeping dangerous dogs, and from the looks 190 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: of it, you failed to follow them. That makes you liable. 191 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,119 Speaker 1: You understand it turns out that your dog was involved 192 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: in the death of these boys. Well that is manslaughter. 193 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: Am I free to go? Yes or no? Sheriff Hooper, 194 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: let Crift go easy? Yes? Too easy? But seemed to 195 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: me he should have been their prime suspect to get 196 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: my fucking dog back. Griff Washington was later convicted of 197 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: several felonies for running a dogfighting operation, animal cruelty, and 198 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: operating a kennel without a license, though the Corps wentn't 199 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: easy on him there too. He got slap with the fine. 200 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: But that was about it. And here's the problem. Some 201 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: of the dogs DNA was near the scene of the 202 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: Hadley brothers bodies. There was also a piece of evidence 203 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: that was never accounted for, red wolf fibers found under 204 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: Thomas Hadley's fingernails, indicating a violent struggle. Maybe Griff Washington's 205 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: dog had a red collar on or something, but if 206 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: it did, the red collar was never found. So where 207 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: did the red wolf come from? What happened? If the 208 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: shareful phil Griff go? It seemed clear to me and 209 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: others that we needed a medical examiner to do an 210 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: autopsy because a corner had no medical experience. Corners are 211 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: elected officials and a man of wat They're not even 212 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: required to have medical training. Yet he was the only 213 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: one that could order an autopsy. Pretty politically convenient, ain't now? Anyway? 214 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: They looked like stamp wounds to me. What the actual fuck? Yeah, well, 215 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: I told Cooper he was investigating the wrong goddamn species. 216 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: We didn't need animal control, we needed a homicide detective. 217 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: But even then, Hooper didn't want the Tennessee Bureau of 218 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: Investigation involved, so he didn't invite them. And why not 219 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: he was up for reelection. It was a perception thing 220 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: TBI involved UC would make Hooper look weak, like he 221 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: wasn't capable of handling local affairs. He needed to be 222 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: the hero. That's ironic. Takes more than just experience and 223 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: qualification to be the sheriff. You also have to have 224 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: the backing of the right people, the powers that be. 225 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: What do you mean you can't get elected sheriff to 226 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: Maniwa County without the endorsement of the first Baptist Church. 227 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: Delivering on a case like this was only sure fireaway 228 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: Hooper could guarantee his reelection, and between you and me, 229 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: Reverend Perkins had already made up his mind on who 230 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: the killer was. Faith is not the absent of fear. No, 231 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: our faith thrives in spite of fear. We like God's 232 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: candle despite the darkness. I know, I know, fear and 233 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: doubt creep in because there's more to it, isn't there? 234 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: And it's hard to not assume the worst. That the 235 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: devil has been living amongst us all this time. Well, 236 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: I have news for you. He has. He has been 237 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: living among us, and he is still here. Sheriff Hooper 238 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 1: was in attendance that day, and I can only imagine 239 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: that as the congregation of the First Baptist Church clung 240 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: to the Reverence Guide in words, Hooper was plotting this 241 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: next move even though I walked through the valley of 242 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil. Did 243 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: you get that the Lord is my shepherd? David wrote 244 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: these words because he himself was once a shepherd, and 245 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: David understood that we are also sheep, and like sheep, 246 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: we two need a shepherd. Even though Sheriff Hooper had 247 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: refused to call into the TBI, there was one man 248 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 1: he thought could help a shepherd. If you will to 249 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: think like a killer to catch a killer, I looked 250 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: up Detective Solomon Swallow. Put yourself in their shoes. He 251 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: was something of a celebrity detective, and he was featured 252 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: in an interview on a true I'm show called shadowy 253 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: death's drive to paint the accused as a monster, something 254 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: not human. But do monsters exist? Of course, monsters exist. 255 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: Without monsters, there are no victims, no prosecutions, no defenses, 256 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: no justice. They have to be monsters, because without them 257 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: we only have ourselves to blame for our suffering. Smith 258 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: was a long man from Atlanta. He landed in the 259 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: national spotlight back in nineteen ninety five when Jennifer Fowler, 260 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: a nineteen year old college student, was found naked and 261 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: dead in a public park near the Atlanta's Zoo, just 262 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: a few months before the ninety six in Earlands were 263 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: said to begin. There. The world was watching closely, and 264 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: the pressure was on to keep the face of the 265 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: New South blemish free. It certainly couldn't be seen as 266 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: a gang infested crime zone played by racial disparities, suburban decay, 267 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: and neglected parks where nineteen year old white girls could 268 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: be found raped, murdered and dumped with no explanation, no recourse, 269 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: and no justice, No fucking way. Chapter two. This is 270 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: from the true crime novel Murder in the Park by 271 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: Douglas Burger. Jennifer Fowler had been in the city for 272 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: less than a month, she was found faced down in 273 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: the Red Clay a few blocks from the Zone three 274 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: police precinct. The buzz at the APD was that they 275 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: needed to be out in front of this. They needed 276 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: a clear and direct display of strength, efficiency, and intelligence. 277 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: Entered Detective Solomon Smith. He was specifically good at understanding 278 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: how a killer thinks and deriving motive from the evidence, 279 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: and his predictions about a killer's neck move were spot on. 280 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: He knew that in cases like Jennifer Fowler's, the perpetrator 281 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: would often revisit the scene of the crime, perhaps trying 282 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: to relive the moment, the passion, the excitement, perhaps taking 283 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: pleasure in the power trip of standing close enough that 284 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: he could watch the cops scratch their heads. Solomon also 285 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: knew that murder is an intimate act. If you think 286 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: about it, it's probably one of the most intense human 287 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: experiences that can be shared by two people, and not 288 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: just in the instant of the actual killing. The relationship 289 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: that develops between a killer and a victim is complex. 290 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: Just think of the proximity, the extremity of the circumstances 291 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: that the victim and the killer navigate together. Think of 292 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: the negotiations the expectations and disappointments, the lies, deceptions, manipulations, 293 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: the power plays, and the pleas. Not to mention the 294 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: physicality of murder itself. The energy and effort required, especially 295 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: in strangulation, would apparently take a tremendous amount of strength 296 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: at commitment. Smith was right. Jennifer Fowler's killer did come 297 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: back to the scene of the crime. Detective Smith was 298 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: already thinking like the killer. He took his time surveying 299 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: the crowd, the onlookers, especially the men, especially the ones 300 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: who were alone, especially the one across the street, sitting 301 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: in his green Volkswagen for an hour watching the post 302 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: mortem indicated that Jennifer had died at approximately four forty 303 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: eight am, and because there was indication of a struggle, 304 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: the body hadn't been moved. Smith awoke at three am 305 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: with an idea. He had a newborn at home and 306 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: a regular sleep was impossible, so before dawn he would 307 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: drive to Grant Park and from four thirty to five 308 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: thirty he'd sit parked three blocks from the spot where 309 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: Jennifer's body was found. He did this for six weeks, 310 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: every morning, sitting with his thernis of coffee, a beau 311 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: Jangle's chicken biscuit and the Atlantic Constitution waiting. It was 312 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: near enough to the zoo you could hear the lions 313 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: roar as the sky grew lighter, and soon enough there 314 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: it was, that green seventy six Volkswagon. The driver could 315 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: have been innocent, a resident of the neighborhood, But then 316 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: he stepped out of his car and walked hesitantly to 317 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: the exact spot where Jennifer was found. He just stood there, 318 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: staring at the ground. Solomon ran the plates. The owner 319 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: of the car was Richard Rydell. He was a maintenance 320 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: man at Jennifer's college. It took time to get a 321 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: warrant to search Rydell's car. He played by the rules, 322 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: and because he built a bulletproof case, the prosecution got 323 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: an easy conviction and Ridell got the death penalty. Mister Rydell, 324 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 1: can you tell us why what made you want to 325 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: take Jennifer Fowler's life that day? A won't I answer 326 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: all your questions? Go on? I just had to. In 327 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: other circumstances, Solomon and Jennifer Fowler's grandfather, William Fowler, would 328 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: have been unlikely. Friends. Have you reached the desk of 329 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: Detective Solomon Smith. I will return your call at my 330 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: earliest convenience. If this is an emergency, dial nine one one. 331 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: What Adiam Fowler here? I wanted to let you know 332 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: that I sent a package I enjoyed. I talk about 333 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: meat smoking, and I said you some apple wood chips 334 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: from my property for you to experiment with it. Now. 335 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: This particular wood is over a century old. It's from 336 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: a tree that got struck by lightning. Happened right around 337 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: Jenny was taken. Big storm came through. Jenny used to 338 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: call that a devil's prank, like when two events running parallel, 339 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: Like like when you wake up with a song in 340 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: your in your head and then you hear it on 341 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: the radio or you or you think of somebody hadn't 342 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: thought of it in a long while, and then they 343 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: call maybe a coincidence. But I'm comforted by the idea 344 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 1: that Lord works in mysterious ways. I'm digression, I guess anyway, Detective, 345 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: Please let me know if you hear anything about when 346 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: the execution date is set for. I tried to call 347 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: the day's Alvius down there, but nobody seems to be 348 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: able to answer. All right, dear take care of Detective. 349 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: Perhaps Grandpa Fowler felt in debted Solomon Smith, who had 350 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: given him the only semblance of closure he would ever have. 351 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: Following the violent murder of his precious granddaughter, Solomon hunted 352 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: Jennifer Fowler's killer, caught him, and attended Ridell's execution three 353 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: years later. He would receive a card from Fowler every 354 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: year after that, not on Jennifer's birthday or even on 355 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: the anniversary of her death, but to commemorate the anniversary 356 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: of Richard Rydell's execution, as if that was the event 357 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: that some bolically solidified and consecrated their relationship. And after 358 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: Ridal's execution, the two men never spoke again in person. 359 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: So it was quite a shock when Solomon received a 360 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: letter from the attorney of Fowler's of State explaining that 361 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: mister Fowler had died and left his house and property 362 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: in Manowa County entirely to him. It was dilapidated, sagging roof, 363 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: busted pipes, chipped in whether it's side, and the Christmas 364 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: Tree farm had been abandoned, and the trees had grown 365 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: to thirty feet tall in perfect rows. In two thousand 366 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: and seven, the house wasn't worth the dirt it was 367 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: built on. At the time, Manoel County had a population 368 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: of only sixteen thousand, mostly white, poor, and Christian. Solomon 369 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: was a black Metropolitan cop who had lost his faith 370 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: in God. Despite this, Solomon quit the Atlanta Police Department, 371 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: sold his home, and moved to this isolated farmhouse in 372 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: Maniwa County, leaving behind his career, his church, his friends, 373 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: and his wife. He took with him the only meigroup 374 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: possessions he could shove into his gmc acadia, a few 375 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: changes of close fishing gear and a shotgun. But Atlanta, 376 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: Georgia or Manowa County, Tennessee, Solomon had his own set 377 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: of personal demons he couldn't escape. They stuck with him, 378 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: haunted him. He needed to set things right in order 379 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: to be freed from them, and he did that by 380 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: coming on board to solve to have the Boys case. 381 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: Manowa County had experienced occasional homicides like once every couple 382 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: of years, usually drug related myth Most of my calls 383 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: were land disputes, domestic violence, bar brawl, stupid ship. The 384 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: Hadley murders were in a category all their own own. 385 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: So how does Soloma Smith get involved? Now I was 386 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: actually the one who suggested it. I knew Solomon had 387 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: moved to town, and well, Hooper was out of his league, 388 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: and he knew it. So we approached him. Approached him. 389 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: He didn't have a landline or nothing, so we just 390 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: drove out there, knocked on his door and ask him. 391 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: He said no at first. How did you get him 392 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: to agree? Well, we played him the audio retrieved from 393 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: Deacon Hadley's cell phone. It's hard to make out, but 394 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: you can clearly hear Deacon talking to someone right before 395 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: he gets murdered, talking to someone, yes, pleading for his life. 396 00:30:42,560 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: It was pretty gruesome. Thomas Charms Armers just somewhere, hell, 397 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: help me, help me? Oh man, why are you just 398 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: standing there? How could you do it? Wait? Wait wait, 399 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: wait wait wait, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, please, I'm pleasing, please, 400 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm never, I'm never. Just let me go and just slipping. 401 00:31:54,760 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: So I decided to drive out here to the old 402 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: fowl of State. The county record showed the Solomon Smith 403 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: as the last owner of record. It's been empty since 404 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven. The yard is overgrown with high 405 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: grass and brush. Some of the windows they are busted. 406 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: Looks like they're still furniture in there, doors boarded up. 407 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: No trespassing violators will be prosecuted. Danger there's properties condemned. 408 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: In two thousand and seven, Detective Solomon Smith was deputized, 409 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: and he and Sheriff Kirby, who performed an unlikely partnership. 410 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: They were like complimentary opposites. One was an insider and 411 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: one was an outsider. One was out of his league 412 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: and the other one was out of his element. And 413 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: Manoua County needed Solomon every bit as much as Solomon 414 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: needed Maniwa County. But it was no coincidence that he 415 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: ended up here. Devil's Pranks something William Fowler's granddaughter Jennifer 416 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: talked about before her life was taken. I guess the 417 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: Devil's prank is like a passive acknowledgement from the universe 418 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: that everything is connected, that it's all meant to be. 419 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: Or maybe it's just God's way of calling our attention 420 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: to the little things like That's cute, but I don't 421 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: think so. I don't think Solomon was simply in the 422 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: right place at the right time. No. I think maybe 423 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: he was summoned and on the some level deep down 424 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: in his psyche. He knew I had to know inheriting 425 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: Fowler's land moving to Manowa County. That's too neat to 426 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: be a coincident. Well, look who it is, Duly tappered again. 427 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: Maybe you didn't say the sign no trashpasser, my bad, Dully, yup, 428 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: I just saw the signs there on the porch. Don't worry, 429 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm leaving m say, Duly, I'm curious. What do you 430 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: think this property is worth. I don't believe it for sale. 431 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: That's a shame. It could be a great fixer upper. 432 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: Oh and I'm heading back to my motel now, in 433 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: case you wanted to know, I thought i'd save you 434 00:34:54,920 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: the trouble following me there. God damn smart ass. Solomon Smith. 435 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: I'd never seen people around here treated black man with 436 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: so much respect. He was kind of a celebrity cop, 437 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: and he caught the man who killed Jennifer. Jennifer Fowler, 438 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: you knew her. We were in grade school together. I 439 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: knew Richard too. Richard Rydell, What do you mean? Well, 440 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: he was a janitor, worked at Carter Riddell worked at 441 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: Carter High. Yeah, you didn't know that Richard Rydell was 442 00:35:50,800 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: from Manawak County. He was from Here, a Ghost in 443 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: the Mire and the Hounds of Hell Dancing in Dancing 444 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: the Manowat Caves stars Jonathan Tucker as Juliet Salis, Eddie 445 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: Gathegy as James Fincher, Clark Peters as Detective Solomon Smith, 446 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: Nick Sercy as Sheriff Kirby Hooper, Justin Wellborn as Tyler Wilson, 447 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: Jill Jane Clements as Jill Campbell, Brad Carter as Dooley Apart, 448 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: Scott Poythress as Reverend Perkins, Samantha Ashley as Dena Fincher, 449 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: Justin Matthews Smith as Paul Salis, Tara Oakes as Laura Salis, 450 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: Jonathan Horn as Deacon Hadley, Alden Kronovitch as Thomas Hadley, 451 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: Mike w Anderson as Griff Washington, Bodie Walter Roth as 452 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: Jimmy Fincher, Brian McClure as Ian Spinks, Larry Clark as 453 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: Bobby Hadley, Peyton Fallis as ed le Blanc, Vic Polisis 454 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: as William Fowler, Nick Dakosky as Richard Rydell, and Aileen 455 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: moy as The Darkness, with additional performances by Clint McGown, 456 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: Dina Dill, Edward Howard, Henry Foster Brown, Jamie Joseph, Juan Monsalvez, 457 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: Christopher Curry, Bailey Hyneman, David Mitchell, and Bernard Satara Clark. 458 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: Created by Connell Byrne and Dan Bush. Written by Dan Push, 459 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: Zoe Cooper and Nicholas Dakoski, featuring our theme song Killer Inside, 460 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: written produced and performed by Lea Lynn. Our executive producers 461 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 1: are Matt Frederick, Alexander Williams, Michael Monty, and Courtney Dufrees. 462 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: Our executive producers at Blumhouse Television are Jeremy Gold, Chris Dickey, 463 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 1: and Noah Feinberg. Produced by Dan Bush, music by Ben Lovett, 464 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: Additional music by Alexander Rodriguez. This episode features the song 465 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: Darlin Corey, performed by Helena Rose. Edited by Dan Bush, 466 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: Chris Childs, Stephen Perez and David Chen. Sound design by 467 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: Benjamin Malcolm. 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