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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: show on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Fulcome back. I'm Dale Lollie. He is Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 2: this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and Matt.

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Speaker 2: In the previous segment, we were talking around three players that

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Speaker 2: build around for every AFC team. Yeah, and we talked

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Speaker 2: a little bit during that segment about Tom Brady having

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Speaker 2: no you know, the the great start to his career.

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Speaker 2: The middle was was good. I mean, he did he

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Speaker 2: did a lot of good things in there, but it

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Speaker 2: was tough to win. They didn't the team didn't win

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Speaker 2: for a decade. Really, Yeah, they didn't win a super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: And then the end of his career was was, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of a rebirth. And it just hit me that's

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Speaker 2: kind of if you look at Ben Roethlisberger's career with

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. They won, they won early, the first you know,

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Speaker 2: six years of his career. They went to three Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easy to forget three and six years.

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Speaker 2: And then the defense and the players around him started

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Speaker 2: to age out. The Troy Paula Malos, Yeah, yeah, the

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Speaker 2: Hines Wards, the James Harrison's, you know, they're all those

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Speaker 2: offensive linemen that that you know, were there early in

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Speaker 2: his career. By the time two thousand and eight, world around,

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Speaker 2: it was a completely different line. So now the team

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Speaker 2: has to rebuild that their window, their second window. People talk, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Steelers haven't done this, they haven't done that.

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Speaker 2: They've wasted Ben Roethlisberger at the end of Ben Roethlisberger's career.

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Speaker 2: Look at every quarterback out there. Look at Drew Brees.

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Speaker 2: Oh sure, one of super won Super Bowls early in

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Speaker 2: their careers. And then it gets tougher it does. You know,

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Speaker 2: Brady's the Brady's the outlier in this conversation, really.

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Speaker 1: In every conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, whatever, the conversation is easy outlier.

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Speaker 1: I'm open to the idea that Mahomes might also be.

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Speaker 1: But if he is, Alan Burrow, Lawrence Pickett, Herbert Jackson

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Speaker 1: are gonna be the same boat. Like great career, only

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Speaker 1: at one title. You know, like we say so million times,

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Speaker 1: Winning playoff games is really hard. Winning Super Bowls is

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Speaker 1: unbelievably hard. Winning it a couple of years in a

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Speaker 1: short amount of stretch is incredibly hard, and you're right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think a big thing we'll see is

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Speaker 1: Alan Watson. I mean, guys, these big contract dudes. Their

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Speaker 1: second chapter is going to be harder, and you hope

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Speaker 1: they're better players than they were for their first chapter.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they will be mentally, But is Allen going

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Speaker 1: to have a digs in two years? You know what

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Speaker 2: Right? It just changes so much. And so when you

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Speaker 2: look at the Steelers window to win with Kenny Pickett,

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Speaker 2: that windows right now. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I've been glued to Warren Sharp's book and a

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Speaker 1: thing he mentioned about the Bears that I didn't really

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Speaker 1: see coming was this is year three of justin Fields.

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Speaker 1: It's almost too late, you know you know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: year one was a disaster, Nagy gets fired, everything's terrible.

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Speaker 1: Last year little around him and started to figure things out.

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Speaker 1: Now it's year three and you're starting to show progress.

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Speaker 1: It's almost too late.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't just start to show progress in year three.

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Speaker 2: That's why I mean, there is pressure to play these

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Speaker 2: young quarterbacks right away. And this is why landing spots

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Speaker 2: matter so much for quarterbacks, like the fact that the

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Speaker 2: Steelers last year were able to get the number one

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Speaker 2: quarterback in the draft a picked twenty right is amazing

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Speaker 2: to me. That never happens. Wasn't it like one?

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Speaker 1: I mean, come out of it. I didn't think he

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Speaker 1: was Andrew Locker Lawrence, of course, but what they this

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Speaker 2: Without a doubt, Like if he has a Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 2: like career path, and I'm not talking about the running

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Speaker 2: and everything. I'm just talking about as a player as

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Speaker 2: a player. Year two they make the playoffs. Year three

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Speaker 2: they go to the Super Bowl. That's a room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're trading for aj Brown and drafting Devonte

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Speaker 1: Like it's not gonna be exactly the same, but that

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Speaker 2: So the next question is at what point with the

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Speaker 2: Saints just or the Raiders finally giving up on Derek Carr.

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Speaker 2: You saw Washington give up on cousins and things that.

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Speaker 2: You know, golf, the Rams give up on golf. What's

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Speaker 2: the right time to give up on these young quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: if you don't think, hey, he's been here for this

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Speaker 1: It's obviously super relevant for the Steelers, but I almost

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Speaker 1: think sooner than later. Yeah, I mean, if it's year three,

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Speaker 1: Fields is a better example.

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Speaker 3: Fields is a the eighteenth best quarterback in the league

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, and they have the Panthers first

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Speaker 3: the top twelve somewhere, it might be.

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Speaker 1: Time to move on. And that's so unfair to Fields.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of roster construction, do I give him

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Speaker 1: forty million a year from now? Or do I use

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Speaker 1: and trade Fields to the Vikings? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, And the other part of that is, you know,

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Speaker 2: because of how easy it is now to make the

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. Not easy, but you see more guys doing it.

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Speaker 2: It's it's easier. And that's tied to how much these

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Speaker 2: guys get paid on their on the when you pick

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Speaker 2: up that fifty year option.

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Speaker 1: Right and no one's picking up options anymore.

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields could be a Pro Bowl quarterback in the

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Speaker 2: in the NFC this year easily.

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Speaker 1: That's not a hard story to right.

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Speaker 2: You know, he goes out in runs for runs for

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Speaker 2: twelve hundred yards and you know, throws twenty touchdown passes.

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Speaker 2: They still stink. But now he's a Pro Bowl quarterback.

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Speaker 2: The Bears have to pick up his option. And now

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Speaker 2: instead of paying twenty million for the option, it's twenty

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Speaker 2: eight or whatever. You know, that's basically about an eight

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. I mean like Daniel Jones is a

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Speaker 1: similar example. They didn't pick up the option. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he had been Pro bowler, but then they had

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Speaker 1: be the answer. Like, I don't think you want to

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Speaker 1: get in the Daniel Jones conundrum.

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Speaker 2: And that's what it is. It really is a conundrum.

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Speaker 2: That's the situation that Washington got itself into with Cousins.

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Speaker 1: And they just bought another year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they kept kicking the can down the road, and

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Speaker 2: you know, franchise tagging him. At some point, the franchise

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Speaker 2: you just can't afford to do it. And their problem

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Speaker 2: is they haven't had a quarterback since, right, right.

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Speaker 1: I Mean, there's an argument they should have just given

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Speaker 1: Cousins a four year deal and they'd probably be better off.

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Speaker 1: But would they have many more wins? You know, would

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Speaker 1: they be a contender, would they have a ring? I'm

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Speaker 1: sure they would not, It.

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Speaker 2: Would never ring, but they would have probably had more wins.

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Speaker 1: And probably more wins. They're probably more wins, right, I

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Speaker 1: mean the guys they've played with since are pretty brutal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But they.

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Speaker 1: Were franchising him a year after year they were buying

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Speaker 1: a ninety nine cent candy bar for a buck fifty

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Speaker 1: and then the next year two bucks with the ninety

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Speaker 2: And you say, well, this is this candy bar taste

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Speaker 2: could but man, it's not worth two bucks.

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Speaker 1: And I keep getting fat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting kind I'm like, I just every

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Speaker 2: time somebody says the Steelers wasted, uh, you know, the

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Speaker 2: last ten years of Ben Roethlisberger's contract or his career,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, do you not look at everything else? The

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Speaker 2: number of quarterbacks who have won Super Bowls late in

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Speaker 2: their careers. Recently, I'm talking in the last you know,

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Speaker 2: two decades. Yeah, really, since the salary cap era has

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Speaker 2: it's really kind of kicked in. It's not a long list.

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Speaker 1: Well it's Brady and then it's not a long list.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's just it's just not you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just not there. I mean the years I think

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Speaker 2: end of his career. Okay, Peyton Manning did it in Denver.

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Speaker 1: But they weren't even the drivers of their offense.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't, No, he was just along. They could have

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Speaker 2: had again, they could have had Kirk Cousins a quarterback

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Speaker 1: Mm hm, oh they've been better.

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Speaker 2: I mean probably, yeah, it would have been a better team.

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Speaker 1: I forget where I heard this in the offseason, but

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Speaker 1: they were talking about that season and Manning that year

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was a bad player.

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Speaker 2: He had moments.

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Speaker 1: He had moments, but he was Peyton freaking Manning, so

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Speaker 1: he was out there, you know, I mean, with all

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Speaker 1: he couldn't throw. Yeah, Drew at the end couldn't throw.

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Speaker 2: I just remember that that year, that season, you know,

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Speaker 2: the Steelers had that team beat out there and Manning

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Speaker 2: made a throw. He recognized something in the Steelers defense

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Speaker 2: that's the value that that guy brings. And he made

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Speaker 2: he made a big throw for a first down and

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Speaker 2: you know won that game. But the Steelers were fumble

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Speaker 1: Right, right, right, that's a tough path to take. I

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Speaker 1: But during the salary cap era, besides Brady, which is

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Speaker 1: a caveat for all these conversations, there aren't many quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: their salary cap.

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Speaker 2: Really, mahomes big salaries haven't kicked in yet.

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Speaker 1: And Mahomes is one of them last year, but not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but his massive, big.

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Speaker 1: Money, top ten type quarterback money. There aren't many of

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Speaker 1: those guys that get a ring.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's just it's really difficult to do. So I

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Speaker 2: do think that you do have to make that decision

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Speaker 2: sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 1: Like this sounds awful, but there will be a case.

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Speaker 1: Let's say Kenny Pickett goes from the twenty fourth best

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Speaker 1: quarterback to the twelfth this year. The year after that,

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Speaker 1: he's the seventh, you know, kind of like the Hurts

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Speaker 1: thing you said. Let's say he has a really successful

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Speaker 1: first year three years of his career. There's an argument

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Speaker 1: to be made that the smart move is trade the

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Speaker 1: seventh best quarterback in his third year for two first

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Speaker 1: that's insane to think.

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Speaker 2: About unless you think he can, you know, the seventh

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Speaker 2: best quarterback in the league may win you a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: That's maybe too harsh because that's 'd be like saying

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Speaker 1: they should trade Burrow or Allen or Herbert nor Right,

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Speaker 1: but the next level you should probably trade, you.

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Speaker 2: Should trade, you should go fish, yeah.

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Speaker 2: This season it's thirty nine point seven million dollars. Next

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Speaker 1: Right? And to Brady's credit, he did it for years.

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Speaker 1: Right right exactly. You know, like I got other things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just it gets harder and harder.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, interesting, just something I thought of what we

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Speaker 2: But Matt, that's going to do it for our show today?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff. This was fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, we'll be back on Friday, and then the

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Speaker 1: Baby oh man, good stuff. Yeah, Sharky's notification on my

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Speaker 2: will be probably be telling me here it's, you know,

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Speaker 2: fifteen minutes to Sharky's or something like that. Here pretty

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Speaker 2: soon yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's not by Sharkyes, if you're going to be

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Speaker 1: in the troupe say hello.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, but that's going to do it. So for

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Speaker 2: my partner Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lally. We thank

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Speaker 2: you for listening to this edition of the Drive on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio.