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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Let's you live on a Monday at Issuetive Claylan Brown's Daily.

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Speaker 2: I am merely Bo. He is the great z. Look

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Speaker 2: at you, team issue Polo. You're ready to go, Dude,

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Speaker 2: on a Monday. You're ready to go. It's all fired off.

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Speaker 3: Let's go rookie mini camp. In the books, it was

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Speaker 3: a real delights as I'm digesting the final Stanza from

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Speaker 3: Sunday right now. Just a real treat, happy mother's date

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Speaker 3: all the mothers out there. Thank you. By the way,

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Speaker 3: the lighting looks, it looks good, looks a little like

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Speaker 3: you called a cool I would say a cool blue

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Speaker 3: through that. I like it. I like it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like, what was it one of the

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Speaker 2: Steiners didn't one of.

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Speaker 3: Them pump dude, a big Papa pump slicked in. I

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Speaker 3: remember if you hear me, Yeah, then he was big

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Speaker 3: Papa pump. Scott Steiner he's also great at math. One

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Speaker 3: of the foremost mathematicians in the history of the world.

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Speaker 3: Steiner Math. Look it up. If you haven't in the

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Speaker 3: history of the world, look up Steiner Math in the

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Speaker 3: next Uh.

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Speaker 2: It's just such a bold claim, like mathematicians like Will

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Speaker 2: Hunting Scott Steiner.

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Speaker 3: Seiner smokes Will Hunting. Really it would take snatch that

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Speaker 3: apple just like that in half and then calculus.

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Speaker 2: I did not know that. That's not a bit he

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Speaker 2: really is.

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Speaker 3: We'll watch in the in the commercial, the Steiner Math

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Speaker 3: math promo. All you have to google. Okay, they'll be

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Speaker 3: there with Little p D.

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Speaker 4: Pump and the folks.

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Speaker 3: By the way, before we start, I would be remiss

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Speaker 3: if we did not take a moment to acknowledge the

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Speaker 3: passing of the homicide suicidal, homicidal, genocidal maniac Saboo Rip.

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Speaker 3: We lost an absolute legend in the sport of professional

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Speaker 3: wrestling over the weekend, six years old. Very sad.

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Speaker 2: He was like, I didn't know, I didn't know if

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Speaker 2: that was that was real. That's oh okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He passed away, Sabo Yeah, very unexpectedly. Wrestled his last

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Speaker 3: match actually at WrestleMania Weekend, not on WrestleMania obviously, but

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Speaker 3: he was like we think of original ECW like Saboo

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Speaker 3: and Taz and RVD and the Sandman Raven like.

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Speaker 2: He was in that group.

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Speaker 3: Yes, an original changed. He was the first, not first,

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Speaker 3: but he was probably the most known like violent high

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Speaker 3: flyer ever.

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Speaker 2: And just shocking just out of nowhere.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very sad. I mean he's lived a Yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: lived a significant life, full of put his body through

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Speaker 2: Those seem like an unfortunately that's about the life expectancy

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Speaker 2: for a lot of those cats. Is It's getting better

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Speaker 2: there much for the longest time. That's sad way that

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Speaker 2: it kind of was. Yeah, so there you go.

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Speaker 3: Mother's Day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was nice, very nice, as it turns out

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Speaker 2: when the weather is nice. Great, what a time to

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Speaker 2: be alive.

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Speaker 3: Great town.

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Speaker 2: I said to NBC, I said, uh, God, do you

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Speaker 2: think that when we have it? We were like reflecting

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Speaker 2: on the weekend gone by where we accomplished a great

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Speaker 2: many things, and we were sitting out by the fire

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Speaker 2: pit and I said, uh, I was burning some some

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Speaker 2: trees that I'd cutting down, and he goes, uh, I go,

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Speaker 2: do you think that because of how bad it's been

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Speaker 2: for like the last two months that it makes us

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Speaker 2: appreciate these days more. And he goes, yeah, and he goes,

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Speaker 2: but you know it could just be like this every

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Speaker 2: all the time, Yeah, I said, well, also true, Also

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Speaker 2: it is seventy one degrees every day.

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Speaker 3: That would be great, would be nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with very humidity. So it's gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: What was the Mother's Day run? Now, we had a

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Speaker 3: very busy weekend as well.

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Speaker 2: I saw, I saw you had you had a big shower,

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Speaker 2: big shower. You were in bespoken baby blue, which was

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Speaker 2: is a beautiful is appropriate?

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Speaker 3: I was in the Man's I saw that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: perfect baby blue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you look there he is g man, look at him.

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Speaker 2: Gabe Gabriel, young, young Gabrel, Young Gabriel. Always always enter

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Speaker 2: situations in a big way, big way. Yeah. No, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was great. So we did. I had a bunch

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Speaker 2: all sorts of things going on. But it is always

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Speaker 2: astonishing to me. So I borrowed a chainsaw from my

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Speaker 2: father in law, and my wife was very concerned about

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Speaker 2: my operation of it, or that I would know how

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Speaker 2: to operate it, yes, And she kept saying, well, make

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Speaker 2: sure you're wearing gloves and goggles and all of these things.

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Speaker 3: Yes, when you say chainsaw, are you talking about a good, true,

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Speaker 3: old fast chants all. You're talking about the kind that's

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Speaker 2: A true chain suit. Yeah, except it was electric, so

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Speaker 2: So so she was very nervous. She was very nervous

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Speaker 2: about me operating it. And I think sometimes my wife,

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Speaker 2: we've been together a long time, I think she forgets

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Speaker 2: where I grew up.

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Speaker 3: That's fair, it would be easy to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've operated a great many chain sauce.

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Speaker 3: You don't seem like a man who has that backstory.

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Speaker 2: I know it doesn't all work out that way because

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Speaker 2: I flooded as fast as I could, But yes, I

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Speaker 2: can indeed operated chain sauce. So yeah, it was a

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Speaker 2: great weekend. We we were basically in around and outside,

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Speaker 2: got the garage. The wife wanted the garage clean, and

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Speaker 3: We did all of that.

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Speaker 2: And away we go, and you had a nice one

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Speaker 2: as well. That was how was Nana.

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Speaker 3: We had the big baby shower on Saturday, which was fantastic,

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Speaker 3: went very well and was I think very special for

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Speaker 3: Kayla obviously, which was great for miss kay And then

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Speaker 3: Sunday we had Mother's Day and uh, it was awesome.

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Speaker 3: I hosted for the meal of food and I did.

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Speaker 3: I had three big racks of baby back ribs nice,

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Speaker 3: and then I smoked four poor tender loins and these

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Speaker 3: were you smoked them up. Huh, They're so good and

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Speaker 3: it's delicate. Me.

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Speaker 2: It's so you can overdo it, so that sometimes it

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Speaker 2: can get overdone the man of your skill. But easy

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Speaker 3: Smoke it when it gets it gets the one forty two,

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Speaker 3: you take it out and you let's sit for like

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Speaker 2: Then they're good to go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the ribs didn't tried a new method on

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Speaker 3: the ribs. So I marinated both of these, the the

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Speaker 3: poor tender loins. It's really easy if anybody ever wants to,

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Speaker 3: if they got a trigger, it's like it's one of

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Speaker 3: the trigger recipes. It's very easy. You marinate it in

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Speaker 3: apple juice, okay, fresh thyme, pepper, throw your I throw

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Speaker 3: the tragger pork and poultry rub in there, a bunch

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Speaker 3: whisk it around and then just dump it in all

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Speaker 3: let them marinate for twenty the tender loins. So tender

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Speaker 3: loins you did that with, and then the baby I

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Speaker 3: did same twenty four hour marination the baby backs. I

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Speaker 3: cut them in half so that they would fit in

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Speaker 3: the bags and put one rack per bag, and I

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Speaker 3: marinated them in stubs pork marinade. I added some more

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Speaker 3: apple juice, and before I put them into that mixture, obviously,

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Speaker 3: I coated them in the trigger rub and then left

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Speaker 3: those in there twenty And when I souvied him, I

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Speaker 3: souvied him in that Oh you souv et them?

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Speaker 3: I souv the ribs in there for ten hours at

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Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty degrees come on. And then took

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Speaker 3: had the grill not full hot, because my girl can

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Speaker 3: get like eight nine hundred, not full hot, but like

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Speaker 3: them about, you know, bone down with a top down

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Speaker 3: to kind of caramelize, brush them with barbecue sauce, and

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Speaker 3: then did that way for like five minutes, and then

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Speaker 3: and they were the juice is most succular. I love

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Speaker 3: a rib bone, you know, I love a rib like.

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Speaker 2: A meat candy bar buddy.

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Speaker 3: Oh it was, And these were particularly good babacks. I think,

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Speaker 3: what people, So your rack, I'm gonna do a little

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Speaker 3: drying here kind of goes like this right, all right,

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Speaker 3: So you got like the longer bones on one side. Yep,

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Speaker 3: let me tell you something. This is the money area.

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Speaker 2: That's where you need to be.

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Speaker 3: You're right the end of the short side where you

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Speaker 3: have like it's almost like triple layer of meat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the chunky, oh baby, come on, come on.

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Speaker 3: So I thought I'd over ordered nine people, okay, one

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Speaker 3: of which was my mom.

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Speaker 4: Three racks.

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Speaker 3: Ribs that were in each rack was at least like

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Speaker 3: two point seventy five to three pounds, so these are

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Speaker 3: big racks. And then the four pork tendor loins, and

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Speaker 3: there was three rib bones left, and there's half of

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Speaker 3: a port tender loin.

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Speaker 2: Maybe man, I always. I can't think of it with

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Speaker 2: the with the ribs from the perspective of how much

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Speaker 2: it weighs. I think of it how many bones each

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Speaker 2: human's gonna eat, Yeah, because you know you slice them afterwards.

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Speaker 3: And then Herb, my brother in law Alec, and I

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Speaker 3: each had nine bones.

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Speaker 2: We led, we were the leaders, the leaders in the

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Speaker 2: clubhouse with nine.

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Speaker 3: I really went. He went nine, legit. I went eight legit.

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Speaker 3: And then as we were cleaning, Uh, Kayla's dad had

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Speaker 3: left one bone.

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Speaker 2: You can't have that. It's just just a spare out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go. I'll take that down right now.

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Speaker 4: So I did. So bet it was great.

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Speaker 3: Jack A had a wonderful time. We had a great

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Speaker 3: bottle of wine. She was very excited about And we're

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Speaker 2: Nice, very good. This was fun this weekend here for

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Speaker 2: the Rookie Minute camp. We uh, that was a really

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Speaker 2: fun show. We did Friday, as.

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Speaker 3: Fun as we've had in quite some time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this was.

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Speaker 2: Really cool to have stuff to react to live and

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Speaker 2: to take it all in. And you and I in

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Speaker 2: Siciliano and Gibbe and and everyone involved. On on Friday,

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Speaker 2: we're out there and and we said, if you were

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Speaker 2: watching a first round pick at quarterback. If either Dylan

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Speaker 2: Gabriel Sure or Sanders were the first were a first

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Speaker 2: round pick and you were just watching them throw them set.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't on air. I mean it was seven on seven.

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Speaker 2: There was defensive so I'm just thrown at nobody like.

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Speaker 2: This was timing stuff you had to hit. And it

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Speaker 2: was such a rarity that a ball hit the ground

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Speaker 2: where In regard to us NFL Network reporting, Mike Garafala,

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Speaker 2: Browns are signing veteran safety Demante Kazi. Kazi spent the

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Speaker 2: past three seasons in Pittsburgh. Thirty two years old. He

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Speaker 2: started sixty three of one hundred and seven career games

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Speaker 2: last season fifty games, one start. This was a room

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Speaker 2: that we needed depth, the safety room, and so this

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Speaker 2: adds to that depth. We still might need a little more, honestly,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, So what he he gives, uh, a former

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Speaker 2: fifth round pick of the Falcons back in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 2: what he gives you is much more.

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Speaker 3: Of kind of like that what I would call box safety,

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Speaker 3: like a big nickel. If we were to play, for example,

447
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Speaker 3: you know the three safeties, like he could fill that

448
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Speaker 3: Rodney McLeod void. They must be very into one of

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Speaker 3: the young guys. And we'll get obviously when we talked

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Speaker 3: to coach Bondo, we should get an idea about that

451
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Speaker 3: behind Ronnie Hickman, because right now, Hickman's your free safety

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Speaker 3: delpits you're strong, and then Kazi would be kind of

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Speaker 3: your backup strong but also your kind of third. Now

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Speaker 3: he's played free safety as well in the league, so

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Speaker 3: he kind of has versatility to do both. But I

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Speaker 3: think as he gets a little bit older, he's more

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Speaker 3: kind of come down into that big nickel role. Led

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Speaker 3: the NFL with seven picks in twenty eighteen. He's got

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Speaker 3: seven picks over the last four seasons. He had two

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Speaker 3: and twenty one, two and twenty two, two and twenty three,

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Speaker 3: just one last year. He is a big hitter. In fact,

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Speaker 3: his career is season last year ended after fifteen games

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Speaker 3: because of a hit that he put on Michael Pittman

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Speaker 3: that he got that was shut him down for the

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Speaker 3: season after that. Yeah, he'll bring the bring the lumber.

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Speaker 3: But a veteran back there, a veteran uh and yeah

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Speaker 3: into the mix. So basically wan thorn Hill went from

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Speaker 3: here to Pittsburgh and k Z or yeah cazykzy CAZy

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Speaker 3: Demonte CAZy k a y dash is.

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Speaker 2: There a y in it? Or that's the pronunciations with.

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Speaker 3: The pronunciations with the one k y dash z.

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Speaker 2: Every Demonte schedule comes out Wednesday at eight Some highlights

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Speaker 2: starting to find their way out. Thursday night, September fourth,

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Speaker 2: the NFL season opens with the Eagles hosting the Cowboys. Uh,

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Speaker 2: miss girl.

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Speaker 3: This is one of those that feels to me like

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Speaker 3: to the you know, Victor goes the Spoils.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 3: There is no doubt in my mind that Jeffrey Lourie said,

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Speaker 3: you know, we've been very good. We went on to

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Speaker 3: Brazil for last year. What we would like to do

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Speaker 3: is unfurral our championship banner that's right in the face

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Speaker 3: of Jerah and so we would like to open the

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Speaker 3: season with a There's no doubt in my mind that's

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Speaker 3: what this is.

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Speaker 2: That's what I thought, too. Just struck me as usually

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00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: used to Usually it's like you get a Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: rematch or they try to do something usually don't go divisional,

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Speaker 2: So to give them Dallas. That that struck me as well,

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Speaker 2: of like, oh, by the way, Jarrah, we've won two

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Speaker 2: of these in the last decade. How's it going for you?

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Speaker 2: How's that all work?

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Speaker 3: There's no Like I said, there's no doubt in my mind.

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Speaker 4: That's what.

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Speaker 2: So you're starting to see this stuff leak out. There's

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Speaker 2: then there will be some more. There will be some

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Speaker 2: announcements tomorrow, I'm sure. And yes, more stuff will leak out.

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Speaker 2: Do we want to do anything with the calves here?

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Speaker 2: What do you think? I mean, it's cooked right?

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Speaker 4: Please don't if you'd like to be my guest, please don't.

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Speaker 3: Calves like cavalier cab By the way, I'll just say

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Speaker 3: that I think our commentary from that other day was

503
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Speaker 3: not all that far off. Like Mobley was out there

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Speaker 3: two days later running around just fine. Hunter didn't even

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Speaker 3: have anything on his hand. Yeah, dislocated thumb.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think they thought they could win. I think it

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Speaker 3: was a strategic move. Hes gonna win without him, and

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Speaker 3: then then they did it and.

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Speaker 2: Then they didn't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why Indy Is is playing on that

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Speaker 2: ridiculous court and in those uniforms. That's the only mean

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Speaker 2: thing I can say about them other than that they've

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Speaker 2: played this kind of perfectly. The only thing that was

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Speaker 2: nice about last night is they were up forty one

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Speaker 2: at half and so I didn't have to stay up

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Speaker 2: and it was nice to go to sleep. You have

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Speaker 2: to stay up and watch.

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Speaker 3: It was like, Okay, that's it. They're good. They're scrappy,

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00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: they're a good team. Miles Turner is playing out of

522
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Speaker 3: his mind. They got Siaakham still ye Haliburt and I

523
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Speaker 3: feel like never is on the court. I just feel

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Speaker 3: like he's always resting. Yeah, but he's good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah he is. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, They're just ultra physical and they just bully. They

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Speaker 2: bully bled there. I mean we couldn't. It was like

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00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: a little kid team that And you see this all

529
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Speaker 2: the time in youth basketball. You'll see with the young Zogs.

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Speaker 2: But when there's certain kids that are just ahead of

531
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Speaker 2: others and at young ages, they'll like pick you up

532
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: at half court and if you don't have ball handlers,

533
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Speaker 2: so you basically can't run your offense. You're just bullied

534
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: out to half court. You can't even get into anything.

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Speaker 2: And that's what was happening with the Cabs the whole

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Speaker 2: first half. They were bullied to like running their offense

537
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Speaker 2: at half court and they couldn't get into anything that's

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Speaker 2: seventeen oh run before half.

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Speaker 3: And then he had a step back, step back. He

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Speaker 3: was a heat check step back three from like twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: Like, Okay, I guess it's that type of night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they couldn't end there well, especially, so this is

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Speaker 3: my takeaway from it, and this was this was an

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Speaker 3: annoying takeaway to have, honestly, because I've been I've watched

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Speaker 3: every minute of the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched regular season basketball, watch some. I probably

548
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 3: went to a handful of games. It's different when there's

549
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: different intensity. But I at me and I don't know

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00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 3: if if c K pushed back on this, but last

551
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 3: year the undoing was just getting beaten up by the

552
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Speaker 3: Knicks and out they were just tougher and more physical

553
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 3: and seem to want it more. That seems to be

554
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: the case here. I will say Mitchell played his heart out.

555
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 3: And the other guy that I think has shown to

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Speaker 3: be playoff tough and like a real dude is Strus

557
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 3: Like Struce is absolutely a winning player. Is he your

558
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 3: starter or is he a six man? So other man

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but he's a winning he's competing at

560
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: the level and matching the physicality intensity of every of

561
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: the pacers. There aren't a lot of guys that are

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Speaker 3: doing and Ty Jerome Milk Carton, where's he at?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's I don't know. We'll see not now.

564
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 2: If you're them, you just win win game five. Just

565
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: win game five and then the pressure's on Indian six.

566
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: So just try to get a game five over. I

567
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: don't know, not far from it.

568
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Speaker 3: Well, Mitchell's out and they're saying.

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Speaker 2: He's he's gonna play, he'll play, I would think so

570
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: he'll play. A much more finite issue that is that

571
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: happened yesterday. So the two on two series have begun

572
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: Me and Bootsy versus NBC and Beams. You didn't, oh,

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Speaker 2: I mean they would, They would get us some last year. Okay,

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Speaker 2: they would get us.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's there were certain things that you haven't

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Speaker 4: been gotten yet.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, And he still hasn't. He still hasn't beat

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00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: me one on one. So we were fine there. But

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Speaker 2: like they won, we always played best to first. We

580
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 2: play a series to twenty one, twos and threes. They

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00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: won the first three they won the first three games,

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Speaker 2: and we should have won game three and it was like, okay,

583
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: we got to go and we didn't. So we won

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00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: game four and we just stopped Bootsy and I won

585
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: Game four, but we won it on a steal. Bootsy

586
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: kick to me, Bootsy release get a wide open layup

587
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: to win it. So it was twenty to twenty or else.

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00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: They sweep. At this point, it's a sweep, and I could.

589
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: I could come out here and say that I need

590
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: more out of Bootsy. It's not a Bootsy problem. It's

591
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: not a Bootsy problem. NBC is like five eight, one

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Speaker 2: thirty five now. So I got in by a couple

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00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: of inches and some pounds, but like my I could

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00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: still get the three off anytime I want. But I

595
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 2: almost was to the point where I had to start

596
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: making up rules because he was fouling me every time

597
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: I would go to the rim so that I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: win it. Because I'm like, I'm we're going to win.

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00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: So I just kept going to the rim old man style,

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Speaker 2: and he just kept hacking me. So I'm like, all right,

601
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: had a frustration, so DoD it makes sense. I'm like,

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00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 2: all right, next time you found me I get a

603
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: free throw and the ball out of bounds. He's like,

604
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: that's not even a rule. What are you talking about.

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00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: There's got to be some bonus. He just kept hacking

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00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: me every time, and then eventually I took a three

607
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: and I missed it. And but anyway, so it's going

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00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: to be a long summer. Boots and I have got

609
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: to come up with some plans to handle them, or

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Speaker 2: else it's going to be a.

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Speaker 4: It comes down to the two middles. There's you, there's him,

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Speaker 4: and it comes down to the supporting.

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Speaker 3: I want to be invited over for a transformative Turkey

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Speaker 3: and I want to Well, it could.

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00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: And I versus the three of them, and we'd be fine.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, though, like their energy and they don't

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00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: miss mid range. They do not, So it had we

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00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: play zone. I have Boots, you be up top, and

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Speaker 2: because I got a rebound, I can't chase. I can't

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00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: chase them all the time. So if I chase one

621
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Speaker 2: of them, they'll blow by him. So he's got to

622
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: play zone. I gotta play underneath. But inevitably, if they

623
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Speaker 2: spread the floor, it's hard to cover all the ground.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get them.

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00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: Well, we'll get them. We'll get them. But I mean

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Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be a long summer. It's gonna be

627
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: a long summer. So no sweep. But down three to one,

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Speaker 2: that's not the way you want to start the summer. Boys,

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Speaker 2: That ain't it.

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Speaker 3: It's called a gentleman's will work on.

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Speaker 4: We'll work on.

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Speaker 3: This is gonna be a gentleman's set. I know it is.

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00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: I gotta it's the key is. I gotta start quick.

634
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: I gotta get buckets right away. I got boots, you running.

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00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: That's what we gotta do. But it was they put

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Speaker 2: it on us pretty good. The one time to beat

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Speaker 2: it's like twenty one to ten. Not good, not good.

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Speaker 2: Here is head coach Kevin Sefanski from Rookie Minnicamp.

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Speaker 6: Okay, really good first day with these guys. Beautiful day

657
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Speaker 6: out here on the grass. They're doing a very very

658
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 6: nice job, as you would imagine on their first day.

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Speaker 6: You know, always make that first impression with the first day,

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Speaker 6: and I thought they did a great job. They're all

661
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Speaker 6: in their seats very early for these meetings, all very compliant,

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Speaker 6: but no a really good group of guys. And then

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Speaker 6: you know, I've brought in a bunch of impressive kids

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Speaker 6: to take a look at. So that's kind of the

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Speaker 6: fun part for us as coaches is see what everybody

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Speaker 6: can handle mentally, get them moving around, see what they

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Speaker 6: can do physically, and then let them put their best

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Speaker 6: foot forward and then we'll go from there.

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Speaker 7: Kevin, when you get the quarterbacks, just the quarters on

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Speaker 7: the field for the first down at a camp like this,

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Speaker 7: what are some of the things you pay them the

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Speaker 7: most accounts?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think the fun part is we've spent so

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Speaker 6: much pre draft time with these players, particularly when we're

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Speaker 6: talking about our quarterbacks with Dylan and shud Or, we

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Speaker 6: spent meeting time with them out of this building. We've

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Speaker 6: taken them through walkthroughs and then they get to go

678
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Speaker 6: do it in uniform with the helmets on and just

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Speaker 6: see what they can take from the meeting room to

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Speaker 6: the grass. And I thought both guys did a nice job.

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Speaker 2: Homework you're giving these guys as they head up the

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Speaker 2: facilities to obviously come back. Yeah, they have a lot

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Speaker 2: of homework.

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Speaker 6: They have a lot of film to watch, playbooks to

685
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Speaker 6: to look at. You know, we don't you don't want

686
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Speaker 6: to overburden a player where he's not going to play fast,

687
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Speaker 6: but you want to see what they can handle. You

688
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Speaker 6: want to push them, uh, not to their limits, but

689
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Speaker 6: certainly push them so they're they're studying that needs to

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Speaker 6: be done, will install plays on offense and defense that

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Speaker 6: maybe we won't even practice, but we want them to

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Speaker 6: spend the time out of this building, uh, in their

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Speaker 6: playbook and then be ready to roll tomorrow morning so

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Speaker 6: they'll all sleep well.

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Speaker 2: How many hours of the prop work didn't take to

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Speaker 2: get a collection of forty seven players to brive a

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Speaker 2: toe you seven and seventh? That's a good question.

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Speaker 6: So we can't really talk to them until yesterday Thursday

699
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Speaker 6: when they when they arrived. So, uh, it's it's a

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Speaker 6: lot of there's I wish there was a secret to it,

701
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Speaker 6: but it's it's a lot of just time in the

702
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Speaker 6: in the meeting rooms, time on the board.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: I think it's it's it's helpful when you have a

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Speaker 6: bunch of smart players, which I think we have that,

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Speaker 6: and then the coaches kind of once we get them

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Speaker 6: here in the building, they were around the clock, maybe

708
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Speaker 6: not completely around the clock, Okay, don't check me on that,

709
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Speaker 6: but spending every waking moment that they had available to

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Speaker 6: them to get them ready. And that's a lot of

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Speaker 6: walkthroughs too, I should mention, you know, I think we

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Speaker 6: started this morning at seven am. I bet you there

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Speaker 6: was a ton of walk through at each position going

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Speaker 6: out on throughout the day.

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Speaker 8: When you draft two running backs, like you, guys, do

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Speaker 8: you consider how to compliment each other in that process

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Speaker 8: or you just get them in here and kind of

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Speaker 8: figure it out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think we picked Q and obviously you know

721
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Speaker 6: his his skill set, So I think Dylan was a

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Speaker 6: player we really really liked a lot throughout the process.

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Speaker 6: So I think it really just so happens that they're

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Speaker 6: that they're different in style, which I think is beneficial.

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Speaker 6: I think when you're talking about the running back position

726
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Speaker 6: and the quintessential change of pace, sometimes that pace can

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Speaker 6: turn into a you can go from a speedback to

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Speaker 6: a stronger back or vice versa. So I think it

729
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Speaker 6: really did just happen that way. But we liked both

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Speaker 6: of those guys a lot going into this draft process.

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Speaker 2: How much does the plan for a rookie minty can't

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Speaker 2: get aldered?

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Speaker 9: When you mean, it's rare that you draft two quarterbacks, right, Like,

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Speaker 9: I didn't know if that's happened before in your career.

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Speaker 9: But does it change the thinking or do you go

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Speaker 9: over the conscious like got us put these guys up

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Speaker 9: more so maybe than it was an undrafted.

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Speaker 6: I think rookie mini camps. Over the last twenty years, really,

739
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Speaker 6: that has changed. Back in the day, it was a

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Speaker 6: full on mini camp. It was two practices a day,

741
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Speaker 6: it was a lot of reps. And there's been a

742
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Speaker 6: effort to do a little bit less on the field

743
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Speaker 6: in recent years. And part of the reason is these

744
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Speaker 6: guys are on the draft circuit and they're traveling to

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Speaker 6: every building and organization for interviews, and it's it's hard

746
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Speaker 6: to stay in football shape in that way, so you'd

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Speaker 6: get guys hurt. Really, So we're trying to to balance

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Speaker 6: the ability to get some live reps and see these

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Speaker 6: guys move and still do it safely because it is

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Speaker 6: May and these guys haven't been playing football in a

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Speaker 6: little while.

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Speaker 8: You said yesterday that you know, both both quarterbacks were

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Speaker 8: as advertised. I think that was the new phrase you used.

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Speaker 8: I know it's like only two days here, but did

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Speaker 8: you notice any difference between what you saw for them

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Speaker 8: yesterday versus what you saw today as far as like

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Speaker 8: a positive progression.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I wouldn't say much. I think everybody's on You

759
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Speaker 6: want to be on that progression, Darrel. You want to

760
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Speaker 6: continue to get better every single day, our installs will increase.

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Speaker 6: So there was more on their plate today than there

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Speaker 6: was yesterday, and obviously tomorrow we'll have a little bit

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Speaker 6: more in a couple of new plays. So with all

764
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Speaker 6: of these young players, and certainly at the quarterback position,

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Speaker 6: you have to know what the install is for that

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Speaker 6: given day and master those plays for that given day,

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Speaker 6: and then we'll revisit them.

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Speaker 2: At a later date.

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Speaker 6: But so much of it is is committing these things

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Speaker 6: to memory, getting a walk through rep in the indoor

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Speaker 6: before we come out here, and then getting a physical rep.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's.

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Speaker 6: Concepts that we're working in practice here that we haven't

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Speaker 6: gotten full speed reps yet from our vets because the

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Speaker 6: vets can't go offense for defense. So we're kind of

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Speaker 6: in the laboratory on a couple few concepts to see

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Speaker 6: what they look like in life speed.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, in realizing our quarterbacks, said that everything's being scrutinized

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Speaker 2: locker room and meeting them. Do you care how they

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Speaker 2: present themselves?

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Speaker 6: I said, evaluate, I didn't say scrutinized, Tony, that's your word,

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Speaker 6: go ahead.

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Speaker 2: How they present themselves in interviews? Do you watch the interviews?

784
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Speaker 6: This guy does, he watches all of them.

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Speaker 2: How important is that?

786
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Speaker 4: How important is that? Chief?

787
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Speaker 5: We have all of our players to represent themselves.

788
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Speaker 10: In the organ.

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Speaker 2: That's the That's the chief.

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Speaker 6: I think, Tony, these young I think you guys are

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Speaker 6: getting to know these young players, quarterbacks, this whole rookie class.

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Speaker 6: These are some impressive young men. They're they're really good

793
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Speaker 6: on the field, They're really good off the field. But

794
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Speaker 6: part of of a part of talking with you guys,

795
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Speaker 6: just talking to our fans, we want them to get

796
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Speaker 6: a feel for who these young men are. And I

797
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 6: think the more they get to know, themill understand that

798
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Speaker 6: these guys really want to work hard at this thing.

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Speaker 3: It's their craft.

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Speaker 6: It's now as I've told them, it's now their job.

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Speaker 7: Yesterday was talking about it like his NFL moments, seen

802
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Speaker 7: his name on his locker. Other guys are talking about

803
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Speaker 7: walking the building and.

804
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Speaker 6: Maybe miles and in there.

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Speaker 4: Do you see them.

806
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Speaker 7: Go from kind of wide eyed rookie too, Okay, now

807
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Speaker 7: we're in this, Like can you see that evolution of them.

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Speaker 3: Over a week?

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Speaker 6: I think I will see it. I don't know if

810
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 6: I've seen it yet. You know, it's it's early and yeah,

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Speaker 6: This is the fun part for these guys. They've been

812
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Speaker 6: dreaming about this for their whole life. I mean, whether

813
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Speaker 6: you heard your name called in the draft, or you

814
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Speaker 6: signed after the draft, or whatever it is. To walk

815
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Speaker 6: in here, put the jersey on, put the helmet on it,

816
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Speaker 6: it's pretty special. And you know, I'm I'm happy to

817
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 6: be a part of that with those guys. But there's

818
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Speaker 6: also a lot on their mind. There's a maybe not

819
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Speaker 6: so much time to reflect for them just yet, but

820
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Speaker 6: it is pretty special for their first time out here

821
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Speaker 6: as Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 8: Your quarter fans today so far, how do you think

823
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Speaker 8: they'll stack up against Kenny.

824
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Speaker 3: And Joe they all get together.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, not so much worried about how they stack up

826
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Speaker 6: per se, Mary Kay, but excited to have them around.

827
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Speaker 6: To Shawn, Joe, Kenny, Uh, welcome them into the quarterback

828
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Speaker 6: room and uh, you know understand that that's a place

829
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Speaker 6: where we work really hard. We talk about a ton

830
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Speaker 6: of football, high level football, and I think they'll they'll

831
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Speaker 6: fit in. Just they'll fit in really well.

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Speaker 8: Kevin last week the offensive line. At some point you're

833
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Speaker 8: realizes it's gonna go through a transition.

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Speaker 2: A lot of guys in the.

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Speaker 8: Frontal year of the contract and things like that.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 8: I what have you seen from a lot of these

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Speaker 8: young kids you've brought in uh this weekend?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 8: And is there potentially uh an opportunity for one or

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Speaker 8: two of them.

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Speaker 7: To to to maybe get an opportunity here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 6: I think that's the beauty of of this camp. Uh

845
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Speaker 6: And and any uh opportunity you get on the grass

846
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Speaker 6: with your coaches is to show what you can do.

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Speaker 6: So uh, these are young guys. Coach bloomingeren is working

848
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Speaker 6: them really hard. They're they're they're taking coaching like we

849
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Speaker 6: talked about earlier, they're all getting better. And then we'll

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Speaker 6: see how they you know, how it all shakes out

851
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Speaker 6: at the end of this thing. But the focus right

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Speaker 6: now and what they're doing, they've done a really nice show.

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Speaker 5: You MEAs with the homework that you send them, you

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Speaker 5: don't want to overwhelm them.

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Speaker 4: You want to push them and out of overwhelm them.

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Speaker 5: What's the approach then on the video when you're in

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Speaker 5: the moment coaching them up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, very similar, cam and that you want to we

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Speaker 6: want to push them. We want it to be hard.

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Speaker 6: And you know, as you saw from Mason. It was hard,

861
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Speaker 6: but we also were not trying to be We're trying

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Speaker 6: to be smart too and not put anybody at a

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Speaker 6: in harm's way, so to speak, because the numbers in

864
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Speaker 6: line are not as big as they typically are, so

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Speaker 6: you have to be really smart. And I think the

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Speaker 6: position coaches are doing a really nice job and making

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Speaker 6: sure that these guys were getting their money's worth in

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Speaker 6: terms of what we're working. But it's also at teaching

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Speaker 6: tempo the majority of the time we're out there. It

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Speaker 6: was gonna say.

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Speaker 8: About Mason that you know, he gets sick, and then

872
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 8: then watched them rinsing out helmet himself actually and then.

873
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 10: Go down and work with again.

874
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 6: They also apologize to the offensive line because they were

875
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 6: real close to it and almost standing in it. So

876
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 6: but he's fine, He's got the right mentality.

877
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 9: Have you seen Dylan and sure like on the field

878
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 9: in the moment.

879
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 7: As you guys are going through the installers with the plays,

880
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 7: like ask questions about like if they have if they

881
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 7: have questions and how they're really kind.

882
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: Of showing you that what they've learned.

883
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's lots of questions. That's good, There's this is

884
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 6: the time certainly to ask those questions. You know, Coach Musgrave,

885
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 6: Coach Reese are in there before meetings, after meetings, available

886
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 6: for text message at night if they have questions on

887
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 6: certain concepts. So this there's no easy way to just

888
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 6: pour an install into a person, say here's our offense,

889
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 6: here's our playbook.

890
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: Figure it out.

891
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 6: It just takes time.

892
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 4: You know.

893
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 6: This is not something that you can just pick up

894
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 6: and snap your fingers. I wish it was. So there's

895
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 6: just a lot of meetings. You're gonna make mistakes, both

896
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 6: physical and mental, and what we're trying to do is

897
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 6: coach off of those and learn from those.

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00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 2: All Right, there you go, Coach Stefanski from this weekend

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Speaker 2: from the Podium presented by Vivid Seats. Purchase your official

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Speaker 2: fan Experience package day for the Ultimate Game Day. We

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Speaker 2: talked earlier in the program about the signing of safety

902
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 2: Demonte Casey. That is not the only safety We've added

903
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: another one, doctor, is he?

904
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: So in looking at this reportedly, and I'll get that

906
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: in a second, but looking at KZ snaps by position

907
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 3: last year two hundred and seventy six at free safety,

908
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: so I think my guess is then that the Browns

909
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: would be viewing him more as a free safety type.

910
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 3: That's what he was in Pittsburgh. He was their single

911
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: high guy with Minka there, so he can do both.

912
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: He's done both in his career, but maybe he's got

913
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: a little bit more free safety side to him. And

914
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: then Rayshawn Jenkins, who's a former fourth round pick of

915
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 3: the Chargers back in twenty seventeen. The veteran who has

916
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 3: been in this league for a very long time, one

917
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty two games in his career that he

918
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: has played, eighty nine career starts, ten career interceptions. He's

919
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: a little bit more of a box guy. If you

920
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: go back two years ago twenty twenty two, one hundred

921
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 3: and sixteen tackles for him and twenty twenty three of

922
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: Jacksville he had one hundred and one tackles. Was in

923
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 3: Seattle last year, his two years prior in Jacksonville five

924
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: picks in those two seasons. Last year had a fumble

925
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 3: recovery for a touchdown there with the Seattle Seahawks. So

926
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 3: twenty one passes defense in twenty two and twenty three,

927
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: did not have any last year, but maybe a little

928
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 3: bit more he'll be maybe more the box guy then

929
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: and KZ. So that just gives you. Now you've got

930
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: a good group of four. You've got Delpit and Hickman

931
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 3: as your starters, and now you've got some versatility with

932
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: Jenkins and with KZ at the safety position. So I

933
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: liked it. That's a room that needed to be remade.

934
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 3: It was a room that I had brought up. Was there?

935
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 3: I brought that up, and yes, apparently it has been addressed.

936
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: It's been addressed. There you go. So two additions to

937
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 2: the safety room now over the course of the last

938
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: twenty four hours or so reportedly.

939
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: I will be honest, and maybe this is somebody who's

940
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: holding out for more money. I would imagine these are

941
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: going to be not necessarily veteran minimum deals, but close

942
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: to it. I really thought Julian Blackman was somebody that

943
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: the Browns would have a target on, younger third round

944
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: pick in twenty twenty. He's got seven picks over the

945
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: last two seasons, and right now he remains unsigned, which

946
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: is kind of shocking to me. I thought that he

947
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: would have fit really, really well with what we were doing,

948
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: and he's just twenty six years old too. But I'm

949
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 3: guessing he was going to command a lot more money

950
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 3: than the Browns were willing to pony up at this point.

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00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: All right, there you go. Coming up next, we'll go

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Speaker 2: I got to be honest with you. If I were

962
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: to give you, if you were to give me a

963
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: million guesses of a former all time great who is

964
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: going to do all of a sudden be on television

965
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: commenting on the sport he once played, this would be

966
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: my last choice.

967
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 3: My first choice would.

968
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: Be I just would not think he ever would have

969
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: done this. Michael Jordan, You and you thought he would

970
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: have been the one.

971
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: I doubt it.

972
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: So Jordan is going to NBC's NBA coverage as a

973
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: special contributor. I don't know what that means. Interesting, I

974
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: was saying about this, I don't think he I've ever

975
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: heard him talk about the modern game.

976
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah have you No, I've only earned talked about.

977
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: Racing and golf and the Last Dance, but I've never

978
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: heard him say anything about that. He talked about Kobe

979
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: at his funeral and that type of stuff, but like nothing.

980
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 3: Well, the groves that are going to Reno, so maybe

981
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 3: he's maybe.

982
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: That's Obviously NBC wrote a very big check, but this

983
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: is a man worth a couple of billions, so I

984
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: don't know how much even needs that. But I just

985
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: am surprised because he just hasn't done anything publicly with

986
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: basketball other than talk on the Last Dance or about Kobe.

987
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

988
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: I would have thought it might be like magic coming

989
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: back when he has to do some commentary.

990
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 2: Porderline awkward.

991
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 3: He used to say, brute strength. He's dominie.

992
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: He's not created, he's not created TV. I don't know

993
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: if Jordan will be good at TV. I don't know either,

994
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: depends on what they use him for.

995
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: I mean, it is wild that you have the two

996
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: goats in their respective sport asterisk obviously on football, JOm

997
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: with commentating right now, and Brady was not as good

998
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: a commentator as he as a player.

999
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: No, but at least we do. The thing with Jordan

1000
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 2: is we have twenty years of him being gone, gone

1001
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: from basketball, like he just hasn't even he's owned what

1002
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: the Hornets but like, and he owned Washington part of

1003
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: Washington when he came back and played for them, but

1004
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: we just haven't heard him comment on it at all.

1005
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: So I'm fascinated to see what that looks like. But

1006
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 2: they're going full nostalgia. Obviously, They' bringing back the music.

1007
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: Tasha's redoing the music you got that Jordan now is

1008
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: going to be a part of it. And do you

1009
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: guys see this. The guy who was the voice of

1010
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: the NBA on NBC, he tragically passed in twenty sixteen.

1011
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna use AI to recreate his voice. They did

1012
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: get the blessing of the family, but the guy's been

1013
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: passed in two thousand. I don't I forget the guy's name,

1014
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 2: but there's a guy who's like the voice of the NBC,

1015
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: NBA and NBC correct and they're gonna use AI to

1016
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: recreate his voice.

1017
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 4: Yep.

1018
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, they're going the full nostalgia play. I was

1019
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 2: at least happy that they asked for the Moms.

1020
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, blessing, blessing. So there, do they have the finals?

1021
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 8: What?

1022
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: No, aren't they doing ESPN as the finals? I'm pretty sure. Yeah,

1023
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that the NBC package is going to

1024
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: replace Turner. And I think they're gonna do Sunday night

1025
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: basketball is what they're gonna do.

1026
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's part of it, that's right.

1027
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 2: I remember that they're gonna do Sunday night basketball. It's

1028
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: gonna be their big thing. I just don't I don't know.

1029
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 4: I'm dubious year agreement. Yeah, it's a lot of money

1030
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 4: and a lot of years.

1031
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot for these apps though, And I

1032
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: have experience of this because Big ten is on Peacock.

1033
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: It's a pain in the neck, that's what it is. Yeah,

1034
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: And you have to play when they need you to play.

1035
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: So for example, you'll play nine o'clock tip, like the

1036
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: Buckeyes playing nine o'clock tip. Not to say that'll happen

1037
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: to the Calves, but like when you're in that national window,

1038
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: you do whatever they say. So I don't know, I've

1039
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: just never heard talked about, talk about the sport. We'll

1040
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: get into the NBA Draft lottery. In the second hour

1041
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: of the program, we want to get to Z one

1042
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: on one with one of the stars of rookie Camp,

1043
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: he issued Or Sanders, that is coming up next to

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Jim Brown's Daily, brought to you by

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00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 3: of the newest members of your Cleveland Browns, quarterback Chador Sanders. Shador,

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00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: let me officially welcome you to the Cleveland Browns. Congrats

1053
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 3: on being here. How you doing.

1054
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 4: I'm excited to be here.

1055
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 10: I'm ready to do big things, accomplish a lot of

1056
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 10: great things, and be a great teammate.

1057
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 3: Rookie mini camp, that's what we're talking right now. You're

1058
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: about to get first time be able to put the

1059
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 3: uniform mind, get out on the grass. What are you

1060
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: hoping to do? Is you kind of just assimilate in

1061
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 3: here into the National Football League.

1062
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 10: I'll say, of course, establish myself first in the locker room,

1063
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 10: first around the building, have everybody understand me, and just

1064
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 10: create you know, a great dialogue between between everybody, just

1065
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 10: and just be a good teammate.

1066
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 3: Honestly, when you say you want everybody to understand you,

1067
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 3: what is it that you want our listeners because they're

1068
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 3: not going to get to be around you in the

1069
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: locker room. What is it that you want people to

1070
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 3: understand about what.

1071
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 10: I'm saying to understand me? What I'm what I'm speaking on,

1072
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 10: is I understand like you know, I work hard, Yeah,

1073
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 10: and I love a game of football. That's all you

1074
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 10: really need to know. And you know I ain't disrespectful.

1075
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 10: I don't have off the field problem. So those main

1076
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 10: three things is going that equal success?

1077
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 5: All right?

1078
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 3: When I watch your tape, I would say the three

1079
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 3: things that's saying that to you about as a quarterback, accuracy,

1080
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 3: most accurate pastor in the history of college football, decision making,

1081
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 3: and then toughness. You took a beating in Colorado, you

1082
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 3: got up every single time. That's what Kevin s Fancy said.

1083
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 3: Those are the three things he looks for in the quarterback.

1084
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 3: So do you feel like this is a good match

1085
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: here for you in Cleveland?

1086
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, of course, That's why I worked out, That's why

1087
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 10: I'm here, That's why I'm brown. I feel like God

1088
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 10: won't put me in a situation I'm not ready for

1089
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 10: and that's not ready for me. So that's why I'm

1090
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 10: thankful for the city embracing me. How they have been

1091
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 10: being able to go and see the kids just working out.

1092
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 10: They they running with me, clapping for me when I'm

1093
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 10: when I get down working out and stuff, and it's

1094
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 10: real cool. It's really exciting. And the city really embraced

1095
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 10: me a lot. And Uh, I'm just excited to be here.

1096
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 3: How'd you come up with that idea? Because you get

1097
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 3: drafted and then you're actually you know, you can come

1098
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: right in right away. Otherwise you're not really allowed to

1099
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 3: be here and tell many keep you said, you know what,

1100
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 3: I'm coming to Cleveland. It's gonna be my new home.

1101
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 3: You've been around the community. You talked about reference some

1102
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 3: of the videos where the kids getting excited to see

1103
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 3: you come work out with you. What kind of what

1104
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: was the brainchild behind that and what was that experience.

1105
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 10: Like I mean, I was ready to get to work

1106
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 10: in my new city. Before pro day, I've been working

1107
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 10: at home, you know, thanks to Pops. He built everything

1108
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 10: we needed to be successful. So I was ready to

1109
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 10: get acclimated to my new city. So I came out

1110
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 10: here and met everybody, got the resource I needed to

1111
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 10: be great and going to the schools. I've been doing

1112
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 10: that since since during the season last year, since even

1113
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 10: before that, So that was just something you know, I

1114
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 10: generally do and what I find fun. It's a lot

1115
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 10: of negativity, it's a lot of talk going on in

1116
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 10: the world. So then that's where I find my Like,

1117
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 10: you know, my piece of my happiness is my joy

1118
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 10: is being able to have positive influence on the youth.

1119
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful thing because, as you said, it is

1120
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: a little bit of a crazy world, so they need

1121
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: that positive influence. And it's Nicee. You kind of come

1122
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: in here already assimilating to Cleveland. This city loves football.

1123
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 3: I think you probably have felt that since you've been drafted.

1124
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 3: That is what this city is about, the Cleveland Browns.

1125
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: What's kind of that reception been like for you from

1126
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 3: the fans?

1127
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 10: It been It's been extremely well, I would say, I understand. Really,

1128
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 10: I feel like the Browns fans they just want something

1129
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 10: to hope for it, and they've been wanting if so

1130
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 10: long and long. So finally you know, I'm here to.

1131
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 10: I'm here to you know, actually give what they want.

1132
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 3: Well, you said you went to Jackson Say, he said,

1133
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 3: if you wanted somebody to turn a program around, he

1134
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 3: did at Jackson State, you did it at Colorado. Now

1135
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: an opportunity here with the Cleveland Browns and an opportunity

1136
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 3: to compete, and that's something I know you don't shy

1137
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: away from. How excited are you about that opportunity. This

1138
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 3: is a city where one of the phrases is right,

1139
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: everything is earned, nothing is given, and you have an

1140
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: opportunity to earn that opportunity to be legendary. As you

1141
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 3: just said, Yeah for sure.

1142
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 10: I mean that's kind of like how my pop say

1143
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 10: is you know everything was earned?

1144
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 3: Yep.

1145
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 10: So the most, the most you know, he was able

1146
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 10: to do for us is give us an opportunity to

1147
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 10: play the game, to have resources and stuff, and from

1148
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 10: then on it's about what you do with it. And

1149
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 10: that's why I'm I'm grateful for the opportunity and that's

1150
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 10: all I needed. That's why I think coach and everybody

1151
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 10: a part of the program and the franchise and everything.

1152
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 10: But I know what I'm gonna do with it.

1153
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 3: How what was your father's kind of parting words he

1154
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: as you embarked for Cleveland and to start this journey

1155
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 3: because you've been used to having be the coach, not

1156
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: just your dad, but also the coach, and now that's

1157
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 3: gonna change.

1158
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1159
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 10: I mean, I just I've been built for this moment,

1160
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 10: you know, I've been built for this moment for year

1161
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 10: by year in college, I was playing, you know, for

1162
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 10: my offensive coordinator. So it don't feel I would say

1163
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 10: new to me at this point, Like I understand, I

1164
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 10: gotta go in here, I gotta learn, I got established myself.

1165
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 4: I gotta be a great teammate.

1166
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 10: I gotta get all the elephants out of the room

1167
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 10: with anybody with anything, you know, any type problem with

1168
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 10: with they heard or anything.

1169
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 4: So I mean there's normal to me.

1170
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 3: I'm I'm in my environment here. I'm comfortable.

1171
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 10: I got the resources here, we got the indoor wait room,

1172
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 10: we got train and tape. We got everything we need.

1173
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 10: So I don't think anything is too much of a problem.

1174
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: Not the beautiful thing about this game, right, it's the

1175
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: great meritocracy. What happens on those fields, that's all that matters.

1176
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 3: And you talked about playing for your offensive coordinator. It's

1177
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: got to be nice to have an offensive coordinator who

1178
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 3: is very familiar now with your NFL head coach, Pat Sherman.

1179
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 3: Kevin's fancy they go way back. So I'm sure you

1180
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: got a lot of information about Kevin Sfansky from Pat

1181
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 3: Shermer and vice versa.

1182
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 10: No, for sure, it was great that you know, they

1183
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 10: have their relationship, so he's able to kind of like

1184
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 10: ex playing and tell them, you know, it's real and

1185
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 10: it's not real. So I'm glad that they have that relationship.

1186
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 10: And a lot of the offense that we did at Colorado,

1187
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 10: it's parts of it that we learned. Yeah, it's similar

1188
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 10: so the game the game. The game slowed down for

1189
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 10: me a little bit, I'll say, And I'm excited for work.

1190
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 3: Side as well. So one thing when I was watching you,

1191
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: you have a great deep ball and it reminded me

1192
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 3: of Jeff Blake because you throw some of those with

1193
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 3: a beautiful arc up there. And then I was reading

1194
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 3: doing some background on you. He was kind of like

1195
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: your mentor when you decided to be a quarterback? How

1196
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 3: first of all, how did that come to be? And

1197
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: is that why you have I think you do have

1198
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 3: kind of that that Jeff Blake style deep ball.

1199
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1200
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 10: He definitely started me out when I was younger, just

1201
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 10: getting just getting adapted to the quarterback and understand what

1202
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 10: it really takes to be a quarterback. So that's that

1203
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 10: was really the foundation, that was the base of it.

1204
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 10: So you know, I I he told me how to

1205
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 10: throw that deep ball for a couple of times. It's

1206
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 10: just not a register for sure.

1207
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it certainly.

1208
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 3: It certainly is there all right, so you get to

1209
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 3: be in here. One of the things I always like

1210
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 3: to pass people after the first time I get to

1211
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 3: talk to him, is you know, football is a game

1212
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 3: you are certainly now it's different, right, You guys kind

1213
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 3: of have your own brands coming into the league. But

1214
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 3: when you go out there, you're in a helmet. People

1215
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 3: can't see your emotions all time. What is it that

1216
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 3: you want Cleveland Browns fans to be thinking when they

1217
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: see the number twelve, if that is the ultimate number

1218
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 3: sanders across the back, what do you want them to

1219
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 3: be thinking about your doorstanders. What do you want them

1220
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 3: to know about your door standers.

1221
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 10: I'm here to work and win. I think everything off

1222
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 10: the fields that's gonna handle itself on the field, of course.

1223
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 10: That's that's why I want my person nine. That's what

1224
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 10: I want to be known for. Is the one that

1225
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 10: came that came here and changed the franchise.

1226
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that journey starts today, doesn't it. For sure?

1227
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 3: It's your door. Pleasure to meet you. Thanks so much,

1228
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,560
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1229
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,239
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1244
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Speaker 2: long and I think fun process. And that's that's kind

1245
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: of my view of it. You've got four guys made

1246
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: the best one win.

1247
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 3: I think it is going to be a fun process.

1248
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 3: And I think you're exactly right. I really think you've

1249
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 3: got to me. It feels like, just based on what

1250
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 3: I saw at that rookie mini camp and then what

1251
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 3: we know about Kenny Pickett and where we are as

1252
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 3: a franchise, it feels like it's like a three person

1253
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 3: competition and then you have a like in case of emergency,

1254
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 3: break glass. And I don't mean that as any disrespect

1255
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 3: to Joe Flacott all, who I love, but he's in

1256
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 3: his forties and this is a team trying to find

1257
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 3: its franchise quarterback.

1258
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:51,959
Speaker 5: Yep.

1259
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 3: And I think that you know, you just kind of

1260
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 3: look at recent history and it'd say the last you know,

1261
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 3: eight years of Flacco's career. Like the notion that you're

1262
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 3: winning a super Bowl with him as your quarterback at

1263
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 3: this point, it's probably would be a little optimistic or

1264
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 3: far fetched, right, Yeah, so I think you're trying to

1265
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 3: find out. I think you got like three young guys

1266
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 3: who are really going to go compete and try to

1267
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 3: win this job. As the great Tarvs walks by. Yes, dude,

1268
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 3: how I got a pick for your guy? Oh yeah, yeah,

1269
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 3: we saw that. That's right, he's the best. Uh So,

1270
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 3: I think that's where you are. How it goes and

1271
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 3: the divving up of reps, you know, that was one

1272
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: of the things that was so great about that rookie

1273
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: mini camp is that you know, you had everybody was

1274
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 3: able to have, you know, fifty to fifty reps. How

1275
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: do you do it? And how quickly do you have

1276
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 3: to decide that somebody is separating themselves or that somebody

1277
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 3: separating themselves from four to three or three to two

1278
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: or because I was really impressed, and I thought even

1279
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 3: on tape was more impressive with your door, really impressed.

1280
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: I was very pressed with Dylan Gabriel as well. Pickett

1281
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: has looked good since he has been here. Flacco looks great.

1282
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 3: I mean, he's fucking the guy throws the ball. This

1283
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 3: is he's a professional thrower of the football. There's no

1284
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 3: doubt in my mind, but this is gonna be it's

1285
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 3: gonna be fun. And people who are already freaking out

1286
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 3: saying it's it's a circus, No, this is not a

1287
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 3: circus at all. I think it's actually being handled very

1288
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 3: very well, and I think everybody's been very professional by

1289
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 3: I thought Dylan Gabriel was excellent at the podium and

1290
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 3: has everything that you want in a leader. I think

1291
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 3: Should Door handled himself very well at the podium. Both,

1292
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 3: as I said, acquitted themselves very nicely on the field

1293
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 3: as well. This is a good situation. This is if

1294
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 3: you're a Browns fan right now, what I would say

1295
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 3: to you is have some hope. Like there's no guarantee

1296
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:46,959
Speaker 3: that one of these guys is the answer, but I'd

1297
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: have some hope and know that your organization is not

1298
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 3: only set up for one of these three players, one

1299
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 3: being a former first rounder that you didn't use a

1300
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 3: lot of draft capital on, and then you still have

1301
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 3: the two first round picks next year. So have some

1302
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 3: hope that you've got bites at the apple and maybe

1303
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 3: we're we are going to get this right. And wouldn't

1304
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 3: it be like such a unique brown story that if

1305
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 3: it din't does end up being Dylan Gabriel or even

1306
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett who started his career at the Steelers and

1307
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 3: then ends up working out here. Or Shador, who was

1308
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 3: supposed to be the second pick in this draft, who

1309
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 3: goes pick one forty four. Here's the other thing. Shadoor

1310
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 3: everybody would say was a first or a second und talent.

1311
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: Everybody top thirty five consensus, everybody, and most had him

1312
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: in the top fifteen. I mean most, Yeah, and.

1313
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 3: Plenty listen, and even people who were not necessarily big

1314
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 3: on Shador, like Dane or Greg Cosel, thought still early

1315
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 3: second round. So that's thirty time. Yeah, that's a talented.

1316
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: Dane had him thirty four, thirty two thirds somewhere in there.

1317
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so that is a talented football player. It

1318
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 3: shows when you watch him play. It shows what he

1319
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 3: looks like.

1320
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 2: That's when we were sitting there him. He looks like

1321
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 2: the number two pick in the draft to be and

1322
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: if he did sie wise, armways, talent wise, all of it.

1323
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: It checks every box.

1324
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 3: But you would do if you were with us in

1325
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 3: the first hour. Sad but welcome. If he was the

1326
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 3: second pick in the draft, right, people be losing their minds.

1327
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would, Yeah, yeah, but it's great.

1328
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 3: And because he's going to operate in a scenario where

1329
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 3: he's not the second pick in the draft, he's picked one,

1330
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 3: nothing will be given to him. Everything will be earned.

1331
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 3: And I think he's got a good shot to earn it.

1332
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 3: And I think Dylan Gabriel looked very good and has

1333
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 3: a good shot to earn it. Can he pick it?

1334
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 3: By all reports says look very good. He's got a

1335
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 3: shot to earn it. That's what's gonna be fun about this.

1336
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 3: I really think it is as open as it could be.

1337
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: You have three lottery tickets, is what I would kind

1338
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,959
Speaker 2: of categorize the three young guys as you just need one.

1339
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 4: Of them to hit.

1340
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 2: If one of them hits, then you don't have to

1341
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 2: deal with quarterback next year. And for people who say, well,

1342
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 2: they're not going to do that, that that's not going

1343
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: to happen. There isn't anybody who thought Bonnicks would have

1344
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: had the year that he had last year in Denver.

1345
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: Not anybody except for maybe Sean Payton. I don't know

1346
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 2: anybody else thought that he was going to have the

1347
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 2: year he had last year in Denver, and look what

1348
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: he did.

1349
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 3: Sean Payton and Jimmy was saying bank, Jimmy bank Bank

1350
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 3: was Yeah, he knew.

1351
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: He was going there, but did he think he'd have

1352
01:00:59,240 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 2: that year?

1353
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know about that. That year was big.

1354
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,919
Speaker 2: So, like, you can do it easier than ever I thought.

1355
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 2: When Shirar was talking with you, and he's like a

1356
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: lot of some of the stuff we had in Colorado.

1357
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: I bet Pat Sherman probably had a lot of influence

1358
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 2: on Kevin Stefanski and vice versa. So there is some

1359
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: familiarity there. There is no circus. It's just a true

1360
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 2: three headed slash three and a half headed quarterback competition, yep.

1361
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: And if one of these young guys can seize it,

1362
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 2: then they can have it. So what I think is

1363
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: gonna be really fun is going to be to your point,

1364
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: we talked about doing two fields, right, so you can

1365
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: try and get all those reps in for everybody kind

1366
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: of running two fields at the same time. You could

1367
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: see something like that. But I think it's gonna be fascinating.

1368
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: How the preseason ball is gonna matter.

1369
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 4: Man.

1370
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, those those practices that the inter squad practices

1371
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: that we have, those are.

1372
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Speaker 3: Gonna be huge. I'll tell you what.

1373
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: The other thing is what practices. All that stuff's gonna matter.

1374
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 3: In the NFL collective bargaining practice rules. I wonder what

1375
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 3: those practice rules are and see if I can see

1376
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 3: if I can figure it out.

1377
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: Are you worried about like the size?

1378
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 4: No? No?

1379
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 8: No?

1380
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 3: Are the length permissible amount of on field time and

1381
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: intensity during various phases. Here's the breakdown. Players may be

1382
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 3: on the field for maximum two hours per day during

1383
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 3: the three phase OTAs mandatory mini camp. Two a day

1384
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 3: practice that are permitted on two of the three practices,

1385
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 3: with maximum three point five hours on the field per

1386
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 3: day training camp once you get there, two a day

1387
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 3: practices that are permitted, but with strict limits for more

1388
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 3: than four hours on the field per day and a

1389
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 3: ninety minute interval between practices. Second practice limited to walk

1390
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 3: through instruction and drills an acceptable pace. So that's what

1391
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 3: always you have the walk through that counts on field

1392
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 3: as one of the two. So don't think of two

1393
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 3: day practice. So here's what I'm saying. I wonder, while

1394
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 3: you've got ninety guys here, we have not used our

1395
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 3: allotted time, And I will say I don't think that

1396
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 3: it necessarily led to a healthier football team.

1397
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, no, obviously we've had our fair share of

1398
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 2: injuries less years.

1399
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 5: What if?

1400
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 3: What if this year you do use all of your

1401
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 3: allotted time because you're I think it's critical to get

1402
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 3: these reps for these quarterbacks are and you got ninety

1403
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 3: guys here, So maybe we're gonna have longer practice here

1404
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 3: because of the quarterback situation. And maybe it ends up

1405
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 3: leading to a healthier football team because your body's going

1406
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 3: to be a heck of a lot more calloused, Yeah,

1407
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 3: and used to the grind by the time you get

1408
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 3: to the season.

1409
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 2: Could very well be. And it feels like a necessity.

1410
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 2: It feels like a necessity.

1411
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 3: Just from a time standpoint as I see it. I mean,

1412
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 3: I think when you're talking about manatory mini caamp, you

1413
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 3: get three and a half hours a day on the field,

1414
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: but you do a hour walkthrough and have a two

1415
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 3: and a half hour practice.

1416
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we haven't been in that vicinity. No, no, no.

1417
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 3: Like maybe maybe that's what I get into. Longer practice,

1418
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 3: more breaks in there, but get more reps, more reps.

1419
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 2: Around the league. Presented by a Leaf Filter, official gunner

1420
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1421
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1424
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1425
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Speaker 2: seventeen games. They've done this in the past, and they've

1426
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: had a playoff game on Peacock two, so this is

1427
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: more an extension.

1428
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they're going to have I mean, they're going

1429
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 4: to have Saturday Night Peacock, Sunday Night NBC in Peacock. Yeah,

1430
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 4: so they'll I'm sure they'll have a big Marquee matchup.

1431
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: How about this Derek Carr story came out of nowhere,

1432
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 2: like a month ago, right before the mandatory or the

1433
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 2: involuntary time began. You find out that he's hurt and

1434
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 2: he may miss the season. You're like, wait, what when

1435
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: did this happen? How did this happen? You've never gotten

1436
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 2: a straight answer to them on any of it. Now

1437
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 2: you do that it's a throwing shoulder. We still don't

1438
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: know how the injury occurred. So he had pain in it,

1439
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 2: but that was it. And then he shockingly retires like

1440
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 2: out of nowhere, yep. So if you're New Orleans, are

1441
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: you if you're Rogers, is this what you've been waiting for?

1442
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: Dome Easier Division? If your New Orleans even want that?

1443
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: Or do you lean into just.

1444
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 3: Go Tyler shuck, see what you got?

1445
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: And maybe this is the year that maybe we maybe

1446
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 2: were the one team that could get arch Manning play

1447
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: in his hometown to come out after one year. Well

1448
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 2: I know that, but like if anything could tempt I

1449
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: would think that would be on a short list.

1450
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 3: New Orleans yayhere his dad played.

1451
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 2: His grandpa played, and play where his grandpa played. Hell,

1452
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 2: he could wear eight like his grandpa did, and his hometown.

1453
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, I mean, but that's what

1454
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 2: I thought. If I'm them, I would probably just push

1455
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 2: in the chips and play the kid.

1456
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 3: And it is interesting to know, which I don't know

1457
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 3: if unless anything happens, I don't know we'll ever it'll

1458
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 3: ever get the point that it becomes public. But it

1459
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 3: would be interesting to know if Kellen Moore one of

1460
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 3: his first calls when he learned this was to us,

1461
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 3: because that'll tell you a lot of what he thinks of.

1462
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 2: You and you and I were talking about that in

1463
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 2: the break like that is, if that's trying to be salvaged,

1464
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 2: he would know Kenny as well as anybody. Yep, you know.

1465
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 2: And if they're trying to like make a run at it,

1466
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: do they would they call here and say, hey, where

1467
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 2: are you at with that? I don't know, I don't know.

1468
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: She's the same agor Shuck Kenny is?

1469
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 3: I know both?

1470
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 2: Twenty six? Yeah, so there's that part of it.

1471
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 3: He's been the least started twenty five games in the Yeah,

1472
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 3: just getting there.

1473
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Abdul Carter's gonna wear number fifty one after

1474
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 2: being denied LT's fifty six, and Phil Simms is number

1475
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 2: eleven with the g Man. Fifty one's good rush number.

1476
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 2: I like it, Dick, but gets good linebacker number. I

1477
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 2: absolutely fifty one.

1478
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 4: Good luck.

1479
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 2: Bengals defensive end. Trey Hendrickson has not heard. I saw

1480
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 2: this on his Twitter.

1481
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 4: Would you like me to read this? Yeah? Go ahead,

1482
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 4: go ahead? Give it. From Adam Schefter's Twitter handle. Trey

1483
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 4: Hendrickson's statement today to ESPN, no communication has taken place

1484
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 4: between my camp and the organization post draft. The offer

1485
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 4: is prior to the draft not reflect the vision we

1486
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 4: shared and were promised last off season if I continue

1487
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 4: to play at a high level. Coaches are aware of

1488
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 4: these past conversations. Rather than using collaboration to get us

1489
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 4: to a point to bring me home to the team,

1490
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 4: they are no longer communicating. I have been eagerly awaiting

1491
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 4: a resolution of this situation, but that's hard to do

1492
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 4: when there's no discussion and an evident lack of interest

1493
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 4: in reaching mutual goals. The hot pick sitting out too.

1494
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 2: Could I mean knowing them? I think he's refused.

1495
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 3: To do any deals and until anything on field, until

1496
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 3: he signed the deal.

1497
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 2: That's so silly, I think. Or not a thing, not

1498
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 2: a thing until August. Let's see what happens in August,

1499
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 2: in September with Hendrickson and the Bengals. You know that

1500
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: that I think is where it starts get a little

1501
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 2: bit interesting. Is is at that point with him? But

1502
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 2: at this point we're still kind of we're still such

1503
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 2: a long ways away from it. Did you see there

1504
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: was a I saw barstool with this. There was a

1505
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh area golf course that Rogers allegedly became a member

1506
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 2: of and they had to scrub him from his their

1507
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 2: member list.

1508
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 3: So what course it was not Oakmond that should be

1509
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 3: the one interesting.

1510
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's probably there's probably golf courses over there

1511
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 2: that we don't know about that are like old money

1512
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: golf courses that nobody ever sees a light a day.

1513
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm sure, Yeah, I'm sure.

1514
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 2: There's there's probably there's probably some over there that we

1515
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 2: don't that you've never heard of and no point of

1516
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 2: reference on. But yeah, I'm guessing if he wants to

1517
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 2: play Oakmond, he can play it whenever he wants. You're

1518
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 2: the Steelers court.

1519
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 3: I s unerstand Why doesn't he just do it already?

1520
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 3: Why is he?

1521
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 2: Maybe you just doesn't want to go to any of this,

1522
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 2: But he's just a weirdo. He doesn't want to go

1523
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 2: to any of it.

1524
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 3: But how can you ask him to steward your offense

1525
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 3: unless because you're not run in his offense?

1526
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 4: Are there?

1527
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,759
Speaker 3: Smith's not running his offense?

1528
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 2: Maybe he is, maybe's gonna run some version of it.

1529
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 3: I mean that's the big knock on everything. Butdy we

1530
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 3: talked to from the Jets was that they're forcing him

1531
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 3: to run that offense which was not didn't really work, and.

1532
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: That he was forcing the Jets to run that offense, yeah, yes,

1533
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 2: and it wasn't working. Yeah. So I don't think the

1534
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 2: Saints thing's it. You've you've thought that there was you know,

1535
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 2: is he waiting on an injury? Is he gonna? Is

1536
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 2: there something out there? Yep? To me this, the Saints

1537
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't be it. I think it's an easier division and

1538
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 2: it's a decent roster, but from a from a health standpoint,

1539
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 2: the division's more winnable. But it just feels like New

1540
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 2: Orleans is nowhere. If it was Minnesota, fine, then it

1541
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 2: feels like you're all the Smithson's a quarterback, but it

1542
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like it's New Orleans. All right, There you go.

1543
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,759
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1545
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 2: around the AFC North. Luke Jones on the Ravens beat

1546
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,000
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1547
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,120
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1553
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Speaker 2: All right, we continue our tour around the AFC North

1554
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: and we are in Baltimore now on the Twisted T

1555
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,120
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1558
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Speaker 5: He is Leaked.

1559
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 2: Luke Jones, Ravens beat reporter at WNST in Baltimore. Lukes,

1560
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: thank you so much for taking the time. I guess

1561
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 2: let's just start here from an off season checklist standpoint.

1562
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 2: How many boxes did the Ravens check?

1563
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 5: I think they've checked most of them, mainly because this

1564
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 5: isn't a team that on paper needs a whole lot.

1565
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 5: I mean, they've been as successful as you can be

1566
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 5: in the regular season, assuming Lamar Jackson's healthy and upright, which,

1567
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 5: of course a couple of years ago they have some

1568
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 5: issues with that. But when he's been healthy, they've been

1569
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 5: amongst the very best teams in football over the last

1570
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 5: what five six years? So, I mean, sure, are there

1571
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 5: physicians like edge rusher? You know, did they need to

1572
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 5: add another safety while they drafted Malachi Starks in the

1573
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 5: first round. You know, in many people's minds, the best

1574
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 5: safety in the draft, you know, but they had some

1575
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 5: offensive line questions, but who doesn't have offensive line questions

1576
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty five in the National Football League. There

1577
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 5: just aren't that many major pressing questions with this roster.

1578
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 5: But that's also where the problem lies, in the sense

1579
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 5: of when is this team going to get over the

1580
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 5: home And I think that's where there's certainly fan frustration.

1581
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 5: And look, I know, I'm read. I have to read

1582
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 5: the room I'm talking about, you know Cleveland, and you

1583
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 5: know everything that's going on with Shaun Watson the last

1584
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 5: few years and all of that. But this is a

1585
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 5: Ravens team that you can't ask them to do any

1586
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 5: more more than they've gone in the regular season. At

1587
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 5: this point, it's time to break through. So that's both

1588
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 5: a blessing but it's also a curse because, as you

1589
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 5: guys know, watching this league, it's really difficult to do.

1590
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 5: I think the Kansas City Chiefs have really skew just

1591
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 5: how difficult it really is because they've made it look

1592
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 5: so easy. But we all know with the history of

1593
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 5: this league that it's not so when it's really where

1594
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 5: it is With the Ravens, their most pressing question is

1595
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 5: can they finally get over the humped in twenty twenty

1596
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 5: five and more specifically January of twenty twenty six.

1597
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing that they will do that will be

1598
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 3: very different than it has been for many, many, many years,

1599
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 3: is that they will have a new kicker. It will

1600
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 3: not be Justin Tucker. Obviously, let go for reported football reasons.

1601
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 3: But in the midst of kind of a little bit

1602
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 3: of an off field scandal or rumored scandal or I

1603
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,640
Speaker 3: guess accused scandal. What did you make of that situation

1604
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 3: and how it is all played out, and that Justin

1605
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 3: Tucker's time with the Baltimore Ravens, you know, arguably the

1606
01:12:58,160 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 3: greatest kicker of all time is over.

1607
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean it's disappointing on so many levels. And

1608
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 5: I don't say that expressing empathy for Justin Tucker. You know,

1609
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 5: based on very serious allegations that certainly came as a

1610
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 5: surprise to a lot of people, but also if you

1611
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 5: talk to other people in the Baltimore area, there maybe

1612
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 5: had been some speculation about some of the stuff. But

1613
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 5: to not get into that too much and to focus

1614
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 5: keep the focus on the field. You just said it.

1615
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 5: I mean, you're talking about someone who is the most

1616
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 5: accurate kicker in NFL history, someone that was very much

1617
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 5: on a path for the Hall of Fame, which that's

1618
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 5: a very short list when you're talking about kickers in

1619
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 5: the history of this league. So you do have to

1620
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 5: replace him. I will note, even though I hear your

1621
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,560
Speaker 5: point loud and clear about the quote football decision, and

1622
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 5: we've been talking about that play in Baltimore, but he

1623
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,759
Speaker 5: is also coming off the worst season of his career.

1624
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 5: And I would not have been shocked even before the

1625
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 5: reports came out that the Ravens wouldn't have at the

1626
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 5: very least brought in some competition to kind of just

1627
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 5: push him a little bit, if nothing else else. But

1628
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 5: all that being said, and as much as the Ravens

1629
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 5: did their homework on their sixth round pick, Tyler Loop

1630
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 5: from Arizona, you know, had a really solid four year

1631
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:14,440
Speaker 5: college career, made a sixty two yarder last year. Has Yeah,

1632
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 5: I guess quarterbacks we call it arm talent. Let's call

1633
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 5: it leg talent for a kicker. I think he has

1634
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 5: all that and checks all those boxes. But is he

1635
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 5: going to make kicks in the AFC North when the

1636
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 5: weather turns south in November and December and January. Is

1637
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 5: he going to make big kicks in January? I mean,

1638
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 5: Justin Tucker was the last guy left from their last

1639
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 5: Super Bowl team when he made that game winning kick

1640
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 5: in Denver, you know, the Mile High Miracle game. He

1641
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 5: made a kick in double overtime to send the Ravens

1642
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 5: to the AFC title game. That's not easily replaced, and

1643
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 5: certainly when you're talking about a rookie trying to do that,

1644
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 5: I would even say, Look, the Ravens want Tyler Lup

1645
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 5: to be the guy, but I also fully expect them

1646
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 5: to bring in at least another kicker at some point

1647
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 5: this spring and summer, just to make sure he's on

1648
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 5: the right track to to take it over for this job,

1649
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 5: because those are certainly giant shoes to fill when you're

1650
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 5: talking about one of the great kickers of all time.

1651
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 2: Talking to Luke Jones, Ravens beat right reporter around there

1652
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 2: at w NST in Baltimore, He's on the Twisted t

1653
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1655
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 2: you know we'd look at this from our perspective and

1656
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 2: of course, you think about the AFC, and I think

1657
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 2: of Baltimore and I think of Buffalo, and I look

1658
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: at both of them and I go, if not now, when?

1659
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: And it does feel that way. Is there that sense

1660
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 2: of urgency in the city and the organization with this

1661
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 2: run they've they've kind of been blessed. I mean, you

1662
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 2: got a lot of familiar faces returning. You have some departures,

1663
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 2: but everybody does. But you know, Lamar's back, Derek's back,

1664
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,759
Speaker 2: Zay all of that stuff. They've added stuff in the draft,

1665
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 2: like it's so many, so many talented guys who are there.

1666
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 2: It does feel like now better damn well be the time, right.

1667
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I mean from the standpoint of and

1668
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 5: Josh Allen, it's the same thing in Buffalo. And keep

1669
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 5: in mind that Bill has just underwent quite a bit

1670
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 5: of roster turnover and look at the season they ended

1671
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 5: up having. So when you have one of those made

1672
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 5: elite of the elite quarterbacks, they're still in their late twenties.

1673
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 5: I mean, Lamar Jackson's got thirty four years old, you know, so,

1674
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 5: But I hear the point you're making, especially when you

1675
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 5: look at the rest of the roster, when you look

1676
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 5: at some other young elite talent they have, like a

1677
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 5: Kyle Hamilton at safety who at some point here in

1678
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 5: the next eighteen months, I fully expect it's going to

1679
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 5: become the highest staged safety in NFL history. When you

1680
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 5: have guys like that on your roster, it's a blessing

1681
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 5: because you love having those players, but you have to

1682
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 5: pay them and it does become more challenging then, and

1683
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 5: it becomes so much more important that you hit on

1684
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 5: your draft picks all those different things. So, I mean,

1685
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 5: the Ravens are a very well run organization when it

1686
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 5: comes to all of those elements, you know, a beginning

1687
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 5: with the draft, which has been their lifeoot from you know,

1688
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 5: the very beginning. But at the same time, yeah, they're

1689
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 5: very much here's a sense of if not now when,

1690
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 5: Because we also understand that everyone thinks their windows even

1691
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,799
Speaker 5: when you have great situations and you say your window

1692
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 5: is open, and it's open for a long time with

1693
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 5: very few exceptions, and I guess the New England Patriots

1694
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 5: of the first twenty years of this century and now

1695
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 5: Kansas City, you always think that window is going to

1696
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 5: be open, and then before you know it, you get

1697
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 5: a couple of injury, inopportune injuries at the wrong spots,

1698
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 5: you had some off fields, things happened, whatever it might be,

1699
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 5: and then suddenly it's not the same. So I think, yeah,

1700
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 5: I think more so Buffalo because the Bills.

1701
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 3: You know that.

1702
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 5: Of course, we all think back to the nineties and

1703
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 5: the Super Bowls and all that. They haven't had a

1704
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 5: Super Bowl title. The Ravens have won a couple, you know,

1705
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 5: so they have fans have nothing to be overly spoiled

1706
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 5: about or anything like that. But man, when you look

1707
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 5: at these quarterbacks, I mean, both these guys have been

1708
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 5: MVP quarterbacks. Lamar Jackson easily could have been a three

1709
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 5: time MVP this past year, with no disrespect to Josh Allen,

1710
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 5: but you still look at it and they've come up

1711
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 5: empty in January. Yeah, you do kind of look at

1712
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 5: this thing and you just you kind of rack your

1713
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 5: brains in what exactly is it going to take to

1714
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 5: get over the hump? And that's when you just have

1715
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 5: to kind of remind yourself, Hey, there was a point

1716
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 5: in time where Peyton Manning was viewed as someone who

1717
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 5: couldn't win a big game or win the b big one.

1718
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 5: Same with young Melway, right, and eventually they break breakthrough,

1719
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 5: whether it's them doing it with you know, carrying their

1720
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 5: team on their back, or where their team kind of

1721
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 5: carries them, as it was the case with Manning at

1722
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 5: the very end of his careers. So you know, I, yeah,

1723
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 5: I think that point's fare. I don't think it's you know,

1724
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 5: like they're in a position where it's their quote, last

1725
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 5: best chance or anything like that. But you know, all

1726
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 5: these guys are getting older and it's a brutal game.

1727
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 5: You never know what's going to happen. So it just

1728
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 5: you don't want to squander these opportunities when you have

1729
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 5: a team that books so formidable on paper, and it.

1730
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 3: Is a formidable team. And you mentioned it earlier. We'll

1731
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 3: talk about the draft and at least the first two picks,

1732
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 3: you know, Malki starks, many people thought it was the

1733
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 3: best safety and as soon as I drafted, I'm like,

1734
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 3: a course, that's such a Ravens pick. And they get him.

1735
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 3: And then they have tried through the draft to really

1736
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 3: kind of get this edge rushed together, maybe with some

1737
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 3: mixed results. You know, Oway certainly has shown flashes. He

1738
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 3: was a first rounder in twenty one. He had a

1739
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 3: second rounder and David Ajabo who hasn't quite reached it

1740
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 3: there from twenty two he had a third rounder, last

1741
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 3: year a fourth rounder and twenty three, so a lot

1742
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 3: they keep throwing assets at it. Well, now you get

1743
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 3: Mike Green, who was, you know, the number ten player

1744
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 3: on a lot of people's big boards. Obviously off the

1745
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 3: field issues caused him to fall. What did you make

1746
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 3: of that pick? And how thrilled are the Ravens to

1747
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 3: get a player of that talent, knowing that you know,

1748
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 3: they also have had a pretty good culture there that

1749
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 3: maybe can help deal with some of the questions coming in.

1750
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean in the wake of in light of

1751
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 5: all the Justin Tucker stuff. I'm not gonna lie. I

1752
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 5: was surprised that they made and obviously, and obviously there's

1753
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 5: so in fairness to him, but also out of you know,

1754
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 5: the severity of when you're talking about sexual assault auty,

1755
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 5: we know next to nothing in terms of details, so

1756
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 5: fully acknowledging that out of respect to the gravity of that,

1757
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 5: you are talking about someone who, on paper, other than

1758
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 5: al Duel Carter best edge rusher in this draft, people thought,

1759
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 5: like you said, could be a top ten, top fifteen pick.

1760
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 5: So It is pretty crazy when you think about the

1761
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 5: Ravens and in recent years go look at their sack totals.

1762
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 5: They end up making it work. They scheme it up.

1763
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 5: They sign guys like Kyle van Noy or Ja Daveon

1764
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 5: Crowney a couple of years ago, justin Houston a few

1765
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 5: years before that, and they tend to make it work.

1766
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 5: But when you look at Mike Green on paper, just

1767
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 5: the football talent, you could make an argument this might

1768
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 5: be their most intriguing edge rush prospect since they drafted

1769
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 5: Terrell Suggs twenty some years ago. Now, I'm not saying

1770
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 5: Mike Green's going to be that kind of player, just

1771
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 5: talking about what he was perceived to be coming out

1772
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 5: of college. So I think on max front, it's a

1773
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:56,759
Speaker 5: really interesting pick because it is something that, as you mentioned,

1774
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 5: other than the Dafeo way, they haven't necessarily invested a

1775
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 5: lot of early round capital at the edge rush spot.

1776
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 5: So but they're also in an intriguing position this year

1777
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 5: because always in a contract deal. Kyle Beannoy or a

1778
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 5: contract year. Kyle Vannoy is thirty four years old, and

1779
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 5: hey had a great career, high kind of season, but

1780
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 5: can you expect him to do that again, he's in

1781
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 5: a contract year, So to me, I look at this as, Yeah,

1782
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 5: maybe the Ravens took a little more risk than people

1783
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 5: would have expected, or even maybe people wanted them to do,

1784
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 5: given the off field issues with Mike Green or off

1785
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 5: field questions. But at the same time, maybe they're looking

1786
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 5: at this was an opportunity for them to take a

1787
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 5: swing at potentially nailing down a long term kind of

1788
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 5: anchor for your edge rush rotation. And I think it's

1789
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 5: gonna be interesting to see how it plays out, because

1790
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 5: you watch this guy on tape, I mean, he can

1791
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 5: definitely play it. There was no question about that, albeit

1792
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 5: coming out of a, you know, a smaller school where

1793
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 5: he can't necessarily face elite of elite competition every week.

1794
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 3: Were you as surprised as we were, or maybe it

1795
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 3: was just wishful thinking on our part that Todd Monkin

1796
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 3: is back and did not get a head coaching job.

1797
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 5: You know what, I think. I can't say I'm shocked

1798
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 5: because I think we also know and obviously there are

1799
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 5: always exceptions. I mean, Pete Carroll's back in the NFL coaching,

1800
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 5: but we're also talking about someone who's won a Super Bowl,

1801
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 5: a long, storied reputation and career, but we also know

1802
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,759
Speaker 5: that in recent years it's trended a little bit younger.

1803
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 5: You know, Todd Monkin is not forty years old. You know,

1804
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 5: he's been around for a long time, even if not

1805
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 5: in the NFL for necessarily a terribly long time. But

1806
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 5: in terms of his ability, man and I know, the

1807
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 5: first thing people say is, well, Lamar Jackson will make

1808
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 5: a lot of people look smart, and he will because

1809
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 5: he's an unbelievable future Hall of Fame quarterback. But at

1810
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 5: the same time, to see what he's done with a

1811
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 5: Ravens offense that had been very successful but felt like

1812
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 5: it had kind of hit a ceiling with Greg Roman

1813
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 5: and just having a little more of a limited PAS game.

1814
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 5: But look at what the Ravens did in the passing

1815
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 5: game last year. I mean it wasn't just about efficiency

1816
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 5: like it had been at their best in previous years.

1817
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 5: I mean by volume, I mean they you know, they

1818
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 5: had a passing attack that had I think there were

1819
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 5: seventh in passing yards per game. I mean Lamar Jackson

1820
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 5: led the NFL in yards per pass attempt. I mean

1821
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 5: he went over four hundred or four thousand passing yards. Uh,

1822
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,759
Speaker 5: you know, it's set a career high for touchdown passes.

1823
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 11: So yeah, the best question, absolutely, And and of course

1824
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 11: it's Lamar Jackson, So I think he'd make a lot

1825
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 11: of coaches look really spared that spot.

1826
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 5: But I do think Todd Mounkin did empower Lamar to

1827
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 5: do more at the line of scrimmage pre snap and

1828
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 5: to look at, you know, have a little bit more

1829
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 5: of an expansive passing game in terms of what their

1830
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 5: receivers do route wise and all of that. So so

1831
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 5: you know, I wasn't shocked, just because I think a

1832
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 5: lot of teams over the years proved that they're not

1833
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 5: very good at hiring NFL head coaches. And you know,

1834
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 5: it seems like the latest end over the last five

1835
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 5: to ten years has been younger coaches. So from that standpoint,

1836
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 5: I wasn't shocked. But again, the body of work over

1837
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,679
Speaker 5: two years, you know, I know this much. The Ravens

1838
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 5: are very happy that Todd Monket is still their offensive coordinator.

1839
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,799
Speaker 5: Even if I can't say it, I'm sitting here stunned

1840
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 5: that he still is.

1841
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 2: I'm not happy about opposite for us, we had we

1842
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 2: loved him, loved him.

1843
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:20,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can understand that.

1844
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 2: Luke, great stuff as always, man, Thanks for your time, Yes.

1845
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 3: Thank you, no problem, Take care guys.

1846
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 2: All right, there he goes Luke Jones, Ravens Beat reporter

1847
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,639
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1848
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Speaker 4: All right.

1856
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 2: NBA Draft Lottery is tonight. It's exciting because flag's there,

1857
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,839
Speaker 2: so these are this is new lottery. This is exciting.

1858
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 2: It's gonna get because you have a kid who was

1859
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 2: great as great as advertised in year one at Duke.

1860
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,600
Speaker 2: Just diagram a damn bounds and bound it and you

1861
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 2: or hit a free throw. Cooper, go ahead and hit

1862
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 2: a free throw.

1863
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 4: I thought, I'm still not so, but.

1864
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 2: I mean so this is as good the old days

1865
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 2: of Shaquille O'Neill. That's gone, like ready made stars it

1866
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 2: hasn't been that way for a very long time.

1867
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 4: Yep.

1868
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 2: The uh so, this is about as good as it's

1869
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 2: going to get. Washington, Charlotte, Utah have the three best

1870
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 2: odds my hunches, Washington would be where the Nbas want

1871
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 2: him to be. Of those three, is the biggest is

1872
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 2: the biggest feast or famine moment in sports? Jerry West

1873
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: as a general manager of the Memphis Grizzlies, sitting there

1874
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 2: as Lebron James and the rights to draft and went

1875
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 2: to Cleveland and by missing out, not only did he

1876
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,560
Speaker 2: miss out on Lebron James, he missed out on the

1877
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 2: number two pick in the draft from Detroit. We end

1878
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 2: up taken Milicic, but it was a draft that had Carmelo,

1879
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 2: Wade and Bosh went right after you went from if

1880
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 2: this thing turns up Grizzlies, we have Lebron James.

1881
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 4: Yep.

1882
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 2: If it turns up US at number two, that pick

1883
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,759
Speaker 2: is gone in a loaded draft, that pick is gone

1884
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 2: to Detroit. I don't It's got to be the biggest

1885
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 2: what if in sports? The head of that to the

1886
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 2: miss of that, You're right, that is I can't think

1887
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 2: of another one that that's even in the vicinity of that.

1888
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 3: Now, that's a that's a that is a brutal turn

1889
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 3: of events. It does feel like, you know, when you

1890
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 3: think of Ewing, you think of Lebron that maybe there

1891
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 3: are some times when they're able to interject their opinions

1892
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:53,759
Speaker 3: into those balls.

1893
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 2: Well, the do you know the the NBA invented the

1894
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 2: draft lottery for you Ing? That's it was eighty five

1895
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 2: and they did it for you Ing because people were

1896
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 2: tanking for Ewing and they didn't want to have that,

1897
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 2: so they created it for him. And then there was

1898
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 2: all this story about a frozen envelope and all of

1899
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 2: this stuff, and so you knew which one to grab,

1900
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 2: and that allowed for it to be New York because

1901
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 2: they wanted him in New York. I wonder who picked

1902
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: second in eighty five? Standby that would that would what

1903
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 2: was the second choice?

1904
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 3: Sam Bowie? No, I'm kidding. I know that's Jordan's draft.

1905
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody ever says anything NBA draft.

1906
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 3: There we go, first pick Patrick Ewing, second pick Wayman Tisday,

1907
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 3: solid player, third pick, third pick Benoit Benjamin. Fourth was

1908
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 3: Xavier McDaniel. So this was a good draft. This is

1909
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 3: back when teams just picked dudes that were big because

1910
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 3: everybody wanted to center. So then John Conkak, who had

1911
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 3: a nice like pro career but was never dominant, and

1912
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 3: Joe Klein go five to six. Chris Mullen goes seven

1913
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 3: to the Warriors. Debt Lift Shremp goes eight to the Mavericks.

1914
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 2: He's great player, Mullen.

1915
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 3: The Calves take the oak Tree Charles Oakley, a guy

1916
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 3: by the name of Carl Malone, went thirteenth in this

1917
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 3: draft to the Utah Jazz. Tenth was Ed Pinckney from Villanova, eleven,

1918
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 3: Keith Lee, a center from Memphis State, twelve Kenny Green

1919
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 3: from wake Forest, then Carl Malone, Alfrederick Hughes went to

1920
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,480
Speaker 3: the Spurs, and then again these big centers, Blair Rasmussen

1921
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 3: from Oregon and Bill Wennington, who was on the Saint

1922
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:31,719
Speaker 3: John's team with Mullin, goes sixteen. OUI blob loved it.

1923
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 4: But I think basketball cards about that out like every pack.

1924
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 3: One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, Eight of the

1925
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 3: first six seventeen picks in that draft were centers. Yeah,

1926
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 3: then you got a guy by the name of Joe

1927
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 3: Dumars goes eighteen. McNeese, I believe I'll get to some

1928
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 3: other ones. McNee State twenty three, a C. Green from

1929
01:28:55,040 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 3: Oregon State twenty four was Terry Porter from Wisconsin Stevens Point,

1930
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 3: and that was pretty much.

1931
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 4: Uh. The crazy thing is there's seven rounds in the

1932
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 4: In that seven rounds, there's one hundred and sixty two picks.

1933
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,759
Speaker 3: Michael Adams goes pick sixty six from Boston.

1934
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 4: Very nice, third to last pick.

1935
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 2: They're a bunch of seven round.

1936
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 3: Bottom seventy seven, picked seventy seven in this draft in

1937
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 3: the fourth round. He's not my vetus, oh vets, he's

1938
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 3: our vetus. They took the Soviet seventy seven. Yeah, he

1939
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 3: didn't come to the league until the nineties. Pick voided

1940
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 3: because the bonus is not twenty one at the time

1941
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:37,640
Speaker 3: of the draft. So they and I don't even know

1942
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 3: what that means, but they proved that spud Web went

1943
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 3: in this draft. He was picked eighty seven. I'm looking

1944
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:44,719
Speaker 3: for some other anybody.

1945
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 4: Third to last pick was Mario Ellie.

1946
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,440
Speaker 2: Mario Elie, Mario l Ellie, very.

1947
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 3: Good player, one sixty in the seventh Elli played in

1948
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 3: some big games.

1949
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 2: Yes, he did hit some big shots the Rockets. Absolutely,

1950
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 2: that'll be so that'll be fun tonight to see how

1951
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 2: that shakes out and see where flag goes.

1952
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:07,759
Speaker 3: Okay, you could have picked Chris Mullen, Carl Malone, Joe Dumars,

1953
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 3: those are those are all Hall of famers. There are

1954
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:11,719
Speaker 3: four Hall of famers in this draft.

1955
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1956
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 3: And so if you didn't get you ing, not bad

1957
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 3: stead you got you Wei blob waymn Tisdale never an

1958
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:17,919
Speaker 3: All star.

1959
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that checks out, always good though. I mean he

1960
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 2: was always a solid player, great college player.

1961
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, pick thirty one in this draft.

1962
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:26,679
Speaker 3: Minute Bowl?

1963
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 2: How about that the new Bowl? Yeah, that'd be fun.

1964
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 4: Hell tomorrow Good Morning Football announcement International games, so we'll

1965
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 4: know when we play at eight am and ten am

1966
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 4: when and who will know when and who?

1967
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 2: You'll know everything when and who tomorrow on Good Morning Football.

1968
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:45,000
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1969
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1972
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1973
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