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Speaker 1: Vie. Hell, Hello, welcome to the nice show. Your Hostop

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Speaker 1: Shooter and it ISNA, which means our dear friend Donny

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Speaker 1: Meetcham joins us. Hey, Donnie, are you there?

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Speaker 2: Hello? Level below Wednesday. Wednesday Wednesday, favorite day of the week.

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Speaker 2: Get to hang out with rub shooting.

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Speaker 1: Gosh good, he's gracious. You're so kind, darling. I love

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Speaker 1: our Wednesdays together And in a few weeks you might

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Speaker 1: even be able to see us. I haven't told Donnie

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Speaker 1: the news yet. I heart have asked if I would

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Speaker 1: start recording visually some of the episodes for their YouTube channel,

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Speaker 1: and I think would be pretty fun of it. Donnie,

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Speaker 1: your game, aren't you? We'll do it here on the zoom.

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Speaker 2: This here deserves honey.

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Speaker 1: That's the truth. Hell, that's the truth. You look good,

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Speaker 1: my friends. I know it's always beautiful people who have

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Speaker 1: no trouble with cameras. You. I'm the one that's like,

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Speaker 1: oh do we have to do this? And I will

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Speaker 1: look und and will have a very soft light, buy

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Speaker 1: one of those little ring lights and look very very soft.

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Speaker 1: So in the next couple of weeks, I shall let

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Speaker 1: you know when you can actually watch the show as

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Speaker 1: well as listen to it. Let's jump in my time?

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Speaker 1: Is it my friends? It is teaching a really big

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Speaker 1: explosive story at the top of the show. So her

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Speaker 1: judge has ruled that a real housewife I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: who in a moment, can take Bravo to court over

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Speaker 1: coercion and harassment claims ce Liam McSweeney, this has been

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Speaker 1: going on some time, has scored a major legal victory.

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Speaker 1: She can now take Bravo to court because a federal

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Speaker 1: judge ruled just a few days ago that the Real

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Speaker 1: Housewife of New York, the former Real Housewife of New York,

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Speaker 1: can move forward with her explosive lawsuits alleging the brother

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Speaker 1: producers mocked, manipulated her and her sobriety. For a source

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Speaker 1: close to Leah tells me they tried to break her,

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Speaker 1: but now she's fighting back and she is not backing down. Now.

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Speaker 1: What's gonna happen next is that this ruling, he has

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Speaker 1: really cleared the path forward discovery, meaning both sides will

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Speaker 1: now exchange private texts and emails and everything is under oath.

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Speaker 1: So Andy Cohen, you bet even careful what's on your

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Speaker 1: phone because now everybody is going to know. This is

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Speaker 1: a landmark case, and it's really sent shock waves through

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Speaker 1: the reality TV world for using networks to confront how

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Speaker 1: addiction and mental health is handled on their shows. Up

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Speaker 1: to now, Donnie, there's been no guidelines. It's been the

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Speaker 1: wild West. You could pretty much do within the law

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Speaker 1: anything you wanted. But now we're going to figure out

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Speaker 1: what should be done, what shouldn't be done. What's the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also it's surprising because all of her

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Speaker 2: claims in rulings as have had been shot down in

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Speaker 2: the past. So judges have been like, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: But something in this which we aren't sure exactly what

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Speaker 2: the terms are here, something in here they think is

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Speaker 2: relevant in needing to be preceded. I am interested to

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Speaker 2: see if Bravo and Andy are push her to some

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Speaker 1: Oh, a settlement when when they settle, they pay a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. They throw money at you and it disappears.

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Speaker 1: Now I have an answer for what you're saying about

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Speaker 1: the judge. The judge did toss out some minor portions

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Speaker 1: of the case, so part of her her accusations have

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Speaker 1: been thrown out. But the core of her case remains.

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Speaker 1: This is the core of her case. She's accusing the

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Speaker 1: network and Andy and the production team of targeting her

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Speaker 1: alcohol addiction, pressuring her to drink during filming, and undermining

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Speaker 1: her recovery. So producers might have joked about her, they

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Speaker 1: All this is going to come out. I think the

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Speaker 1: world has changed. When we first started to enjoy Housewives,

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Speaker 1: like when American Idol first started, Donnie. My favorite part

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Speaker 1: people with learning disabilities. Let's be honest here, William Hung

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Speaker 1: Goodness knows they've made hundreds of millions of dollars. Is

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Speaker 2: Somebody's sobriety has nothing to joke with. And if you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They seem to target people who are

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Speaker 1: But this is going to be a real reckoning for Brav.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear what other people are going

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Speaker 1: really cost Bravo a lot of money, which brings us

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Speaker 1: to our pole question of the day. A judge has

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Speaker 1: ruled that Real housewife Leah McSweeney can take Bravo to court.

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Speaker 1: Our questions very cheeky, but he did make me giggle.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Bravo should televise the trial? I would

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Speaker 1: watch because I love a televised trial. I do remember

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Speaker 1: the OJ trial and Michael Jackson trial. Should this be

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Speaker 1: Remember the Amber Heard and Johnny Depp trial? Should this

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Speaker 1: be televised? Imagine Andy on the witness stand. He'll wear

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Speaker 1: all black pearls, look very somber. Should it be televised? Hey?

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Speaker 2: Is also very said? So Rosie O'Donnell's daughter Chelsea has

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Speaker 2: Rosie admits that she tried everything. So remember Chelsea O'Donnell,

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Speaker 2: she got arrested multiple times for math, possession, bail jumping,

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Speaker 1: Want to be helped. It's true. We know Kelly Carpenter,

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Speaker 2: Oh I've loved her ever since I was a kid.

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Speaker 2: I used to watch her talk. But also what she

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Speaker 1: She pays for this. It's not free for us. She

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's just heartbreaking. Okay, moving along, Blake Lively

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Speaker 1: as quote the most high school fight people with millions

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Speaker 1: I was Justin, I'd call Blake and say, let's settle this.

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Speaker 1: both of us, because if this goes to trial, neither

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Speaker 1: cost both of us a lot of money. It's high school, Donnie,

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Speaker 1: it is high school. What do you think about all this? So?

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Speaker 2: I actually I watched this Wow series actually last night.

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Speaker 2: It was fabulous, only because there's a lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: I didn't know, but also I just while watching it,

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Speaker 2: I also went back and forth. I was like, oh, oh,

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Speaker 2: Blake's got it. Oh just just oh Blase. Oh, I'm

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Speaker 2: like that. It just kept going back and forth, back

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no hero to this story. They both seem

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Speaker 1: not the greatest people. Let me add okay, moving along.

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Speaker 1: Helen Mirren, who I love, and she is not afraid

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Speaker 1: hear it, has some very profound words about the James

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Speaker 2: She's basically thinking it's profound sexism, basically wrong. No, she's

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Speaker 2: not wrong. She said the whole concept of James Bond

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