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Speaker 1: I feel like Thursday is just our little special treat day.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning, and this

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Speaker 2: is the Second Date Podcast because you get a little

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Speaker 2: something different.

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Speaker 1: Every Thursday, you love and this time it's a brand

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Speaker 1: new closure call.

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Speaker 2: And this guy is definitely desperate for our help after

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Speaker 2: he received a out of the I don't know what

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Speaker 2: do you say? Out of the blue text from his girlfriend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll call it that random.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll hear it in just a second. But first,

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Speaker 2: we always love to feature your comments.

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Speaker 1: Because we love you. Yes, is that two forward? Maybe not?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what do you got to say?

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Speaker 4: Jackson French said, Oh lord, the day has come aussy

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Speaker 4: here and I caught up on twenty twenty five, so

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Speaker 4: let's bring on twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I found my girlfriend with shared interest in your.

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Speaker 4: Show and now I have her hooked Tooay, so cute.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 2: If you ever run out of the Second Date Podcast,

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Speaker 2: we do a full show hour over on our main

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Speaker 2: podcast as well, which is just Brooke and Jeffrey.

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Speaker 1: If you want to punish yourself for an entire hour

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Speaker 1: listening to it.

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Speaker 4: And this is proof that listening to us it doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean you give people to it.

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Speaker 3: For yourself. I'm on the showye the.

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Speaker 2: We're going to start your brand new closure call on

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Speaker 2: your second day podcast right now.

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Speaker 3: I've heard. The farther you get into a relationship, the

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Speaker 3: harder it is to break up. That's true, because then

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Speaker 3: you have to have a long conversation about why it's ending,

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Speaker 3: and how it's not your fault. I outgrew you, it's

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Speaker 3: my fault for growing. And who's going to get custody

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Speaker 3: of the passwords to which streaming services? I call it

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Speaker 3: to be.

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Speaker 1: Like the free Wood I get it.

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Speaker 3: I just give one out an hour. Bro See already

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Speaker 3: Brooke and I are butting heads on this because it's

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Speaker 3: not an easy conversation, but it's what you have to do.

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Speaker 3: You can never break up. No, and one of our

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Speaker 3: listeners feels like he did not get the respect he

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Speaker 3: deserves when after months of dating, his girlfriend just sent

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Speaker 3: him one short text that completely blindsided him, and all

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Speaker 3: he really wants his answers. So we're gonna try to

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Speaker 3: help him with that in a brand new closure call

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Speaker 3: that's coming up right after this. Well, well, well look

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Speaker 3: who came crawling back? One of our listeners who needs

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Speaker 3: our help once again?

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Speaker 2: Is this a collect call from a jail cell with

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Speaker 2: the music?

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Speaker 3: It's a guy named Nick and the last time he

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Speaker 3: was on with us, he was trying to lock down

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Speaker 3: a second date with a lady cop. Oh this was yesterday, Brook, Well.

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Speaker 1: If you don't remember totally, remember that, Nick.

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Speaker 3: No, it was a few months ago, but you might

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Speaker 3: remember if you do listen. The reason he wasn't getting

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Speaker 3: a call back was his date used her police connections

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Speaker 3: to dig deep into Knick's personal history. That alone led

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Speaker 1: I remember that one now.

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Speaker 3: But after our call, according to our producer, Nick jumped

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Speaker 3: quickly back into another relationship with a different woman named Brenda,

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Speaker 3: and apparently now he needs some help with a closure

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Oh I thought we were doing this second date.

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well, Nick, first, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for having me back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brooke did not want to, but that's okay. We

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Speaker 3: you back on the show. Remember voting. So tell us

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Speaker 3: about this girl Brenda that you were dating, our dating.

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Speaker 3: What's the situation there, so as you as.

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Speaker 6: You mentioned, like after I, you know, had my experience

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Speaker 1: On the second day.

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Speaker 3: Did you guys do it together?

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Speaker 6: Why?

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Speaker 3: Well, you didn't push it. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: I think it was just my phone message updating on

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Speaker 6: And we've also, you know, the friend groups have started

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Speaker 1: I can't tell if you're excited or you're mad right now.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm excited because all of this is really great.

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Speaker 6: But then I get a text message six nights ago

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Speaker 1: No, I think that is so rude.

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Speaker 1: Give a reason in the text, or just do it

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Speaker 1: You give me a QR code.

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Speaker 3: We can't see each other. So the way you're saying,

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Speaker 3: that happened completely out of the blue. There's nothing that

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Speaker 6: In fact, we were making plans for the weekend. So

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Speaker 6: then it was quiet for about an hour. I was like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: Did Lady Cop contact her and give her your wrap sheet?

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Speaker 6: She better not have.

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Speaker 3: The bigger problem. Okay, So you want to do a

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Speaker 3: closure call, obviously to figure out why Brenda sent you

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Speaker 6: Uh, well, she's not a lady Cop. She doesn't spy

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Speaker 6: So the humor, her friends are awesome, she seemed to

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Speaker 2: It sounds like you were really excited about this relationship.

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Speaker 2: Are you wanting to give it another chance? Or like

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Speaker 3: And the thing is with this segment. Normally, the way

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Speaker 2: This is usually something where we go deep into people's history.

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Speaker 1: I mean this is so recent.

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Speaker 3: This time. We're gonna call Brenda directly.

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Speaker 1: Oh and just ask.

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Speaker 3: Her all the questions we need to right now, live

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Speaker 1: Okay, does she know?

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Speaker 3: She does not know. We're gonna blindside her, just like

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Speaker 3: It could be eight minutes of NonStop calls and hanging

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Speaker 3: about it. Okay, but this is different. Because it happened.

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Speaker 3: Just six days ago, our listener Nick got a text

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Speaker 1: Exclicitly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the text just said I can't see you anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no explanation, no lead up to it, not even

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Speaker 3: So he's got nothing, And now we're gonna step in

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Speaker 1: So I have a quick question. We haven't done this before.

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Speaker 2: Do we have pre prepared questions that we're going to

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Speaker 3: That's a good question, Brook. Do you have them ready?

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Speaker 1: I can figure it out. I guess I did nothing.

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Speaker 3: You're going to wing it?

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Speaker 2: And then are we going to call him in on

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Speaker 2: the call like we do second dates or is he

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Speaker 3: I think if we want Brenda to stay on the phone.

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Speaker 3: We probably should try and talk to her alone first. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I know, Nick, it sounds like you don't like the

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Speaker 6: Nick, No, I bring me on. I'm just really curious

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Speaker 6: to hear what she has to say. That's a bottom line.

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Speaker 3: Right now, let's see what happens. I'm just going to

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Speaker 3: dial her number. We have to dial it four, ten,

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Speaker 3: twenty times until she picks up. We're going to do

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Speaker 3: whatever it takes to get you closure. Okay, Nick, thank you?

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Speaker 3: Right so formal, I know, so serious, but here we go.

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Speaker 3: I'm calling right now. Hello, Hey is this Brenda?

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Speaker 1: This is she?

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Speaker 1: Oh, good morning, Hi Brenda.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, maybe turn on a light switch if it's

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Speaker 1: That is a waste of time.

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Speaker 3: Okay, get to it all right. I like the joke, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you. The reason why we're calling is because

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Speaker 1: He just doesn't understand why he should know why.

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Speaker 5: There's no misunderstandings when you just lie, though, lie.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying that there was alleged lying in your relationship,

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Speaker 5: You know what?

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 5: So you know that we went out for two months, right, Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 2: We thought, or did, yeah, well, yeah, I mean all

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Speaker 5: It's so clearly him, Like these are new, updated photos.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh, your arm is like around his shoulder and

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Speaker 5: I'm not in a photo, but it's the restaurant that

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Speaker 3: But there are a lot of deep AI fakes, Brooks.

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Speaker 3: Some people like to borrow other people's photos to use

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Speaker 1: You're all over the day now.

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Speaker 3: And it's not me. It's just a way that people

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Speaker 2: Because we've never had one listener say they came across

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Speaker 3: Our listeners are smart Brook, they know it's a fake funnier.

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Speaker 3: So let's look, there could be a misunderstanding here, and

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Speaker 5: But he can't be on the line right now. He is.

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Speaker 3: Nick, are you there?

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Speaker 6: I am here, and I'm glad that you brought this

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Speaker 6: What I heard from my friends is that you had

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Speaker 5: Oh no no, no, no, no no no no guys, sorry, no, no.

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Speaker 1: That didn't even make sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what you're saying is you heard a rumor that

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Speaker 5: And why did you deny it when I asked you?

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Speaker 3: No, you were cheating, dad.

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Speaker 6: Look, this is just what my friend said. So I'm

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Speaker 3: Exist unless Brooke used your photo in order to catfish

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Speaker 2: Brenda, you do sound hot like I sound like I

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Speaker 2: In your relationships, big man, Brenda, this is absolutely this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you full uncheated now, the way that

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Speaker 6: You're supposed to be on my side here, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, with sketchy behavior. Man, the last time you're

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Speaker 3: Divorce.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you were married, now broke out.

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Speaker 3: Divorce might still be active, so it's probably not safe to.

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Speaker 6: Talk about it.

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Speaker 5: You know what, I knew. I knew that this was

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Speaker 6: Listen. The bottom line is we both made mistakes. You

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Speaker 3: Wow, he's putting it all out on the table for

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Speaker 1: That was one romantic speech. It was I was on hinge.

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Speaker 1: You were on hinge.

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Speaker 3: Allegedly, So let's see Brenda, are you willing to look

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Speaker 1: Wow? Get a gas lighter too.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm just we've all made mistakes. You're doing I've

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Speaker 1: You're doing it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's all look past all the mistakes we've ever

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I really hope that Nick out the closure he needed,

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Speaker 1: Nick.

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Speaker 2: It didn't like cross your mind at any point when

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Speaker 6: Look straight up, I'm on a lot of different dating apps,

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Speaker 1: Any closure call for himself.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's your first in person closure call.

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Speaker 1: I'm really happy for Brenda.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she got the closure that he wanted to get

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Speaker 1: I don't think we should do it again.

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Speaker 3: Well No, I feel like that's out. What I mean,

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Speaker 1: I see I thought you meant we should never have

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Speaker 1: a live closure call again. No, that was a hot Traine.

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Speaker 3: It was messy, but we got to the point of it. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: Nick has a hard time being honest.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it just doesn't sound like he's ready for a relationship,

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Speaker 7: and I don't know if we're ready for him, because

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Speaker 2: A radio station to act innocent like maybe he just

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Speaker 3: Maybe he could be calling us once a week if

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Speaker 3: we don't put the kabash on it. So Nick, I'm sorry, buddy,

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Speaker 1: Only Jeff that loves you right now. I'm we're in

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Speaker 1: a hard spot right now.

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Speaker 3: That was a hard spot too. He's got some stuff

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Speaker 3: maybe we'll talk about having.

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Speaker 1: You back, but it'll be stable. He won't need us, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then we won't want it.

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Speaker 3: But don't forget if you're listening to us on podcasts

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Speaker 3: right now make sure to hit that subscribe button.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.