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Speaker 1: This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things the

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Speaker 1: election coverage.

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Speaker 2: Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 1: I want to focus in on Wisconsin for a moment,

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Speaker 1: as you know, that's where the RNC will be and

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Speaker 1: it may very well be the single most important state

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Speaker 1: in this entire election cycle. I think the likelihood that

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Speaker 1: it is so go with Wisconsin, so go with the

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Speaker 1: election is very high. So you can imagine the amount

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Speaker 1: of the dollars that are going to be put into

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Speaker 1: the state of IYO are going to be absolutely immense

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Speaker 1: to try to sway the public to vote for one

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Speaker 1: candidate or the other.

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Speaker 3: That's for sure. The RNC is going to be there.

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Speaker 1: Clay and I will both be there in Wisconsin that

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Speaker 1: for that week in Milwaukee. I have never spent that

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Speaker 1: much time in Wisconsin, so I am very much looking

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Speaker 1: forward to it.

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Speaker 3: And this has cut three.

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Speaker 1: Trump himself is saying he loves Wisconsin, Milwaukee specifically. In fact,

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Speaker 1: he says he's the one that picked it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, and you know, I love Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: I was the one that picked Milwaukee.

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Speaker 3: I have to tell you, I was the one that

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Speaker 3: picked it.

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Speaker 4: These lion people that they say, oh, he doesn't like Milwaukee.

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Speaker 3: I love Milwaukee. I said, you got to fix the crime.

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Speaker 3: We all know that, you got.

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Speaker 2: To make sure of the election's on us. But I'm

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Speaker 2: the one that picked Milwaukee.

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Speaker 3: And the Democrats or the radical left lunatics.

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Speaker 2: As I call him, what they say is just so terrible.

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Speaker 2: They lie, lie, lie.

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Speaker 3: They have a horrible candidate.

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Speaker 4: They have a candidate that has no clue, doesn't know

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Speaker 4: where he is, and all.

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Speaker 3: They can do is lie. I love it. I'm the

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Speaker 3: one that picked Milwaukee.

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Speaker 1: Officially, he's saying he's the one that said it should

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Speaker 1: be Milwaukee for the RNC. So we'll be doing the

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Speaker 1: show live from there that week and bringing you all

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Speaker 1: of the all of the atmospherics in the ground truth

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Speaker 1: we can from that. I think we're also hosting an event.

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Speaker 1: Klay and I are hosting an event together at the RNC.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff going

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Speaker 1: on there. And he went on obviously Trump campaigning in

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin because, as I said, it is an absolutely critical

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Speaker 1: battleground state.

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Speaker 3: And he went on to.

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Speaker 1: Address some of the failings of the Biden regime and

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Speaker 1: specifically that Biden. If you think that the perception of

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Speaker 1: other countries, especially allies and enemies, matters, If you think

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Speaker 1: that foreign policy at any level is important to this country,

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Speaker 1: and I think that we all do, you got to

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Speaker 1: see that what Joe Biden is doing is a mess.

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Speaker 1: Is a is a constant game of trying to deal

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Speaker 1: with the failures and patch up the holes, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: This is Trump has cut four saying that Biden is

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Speaker 1: just humiliating the country on the world stage.

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden is humiliating our country on the world stage.

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Speaker 1: He's actually humiliating us.

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Speaker 3: It's sew what happened this weekend.

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Speaker 4: It's turning the United States into a total joke.

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Speaker 2: All over the world.

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Speaker 1: First, he wandered off the G seven in Europe the stage.

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Speaker 2: You look like he.

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Speaker 3: Didn't know where the hell he was. But he didn't

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Speaker 3: know where he was. He's blaming it now on AI.

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Speaker 1: He's saying he doesn't know what AI is.

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Speaker 3: But that's okay.

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Speaker 1: Now they're saying the media is manipulat. Oh, he's saying

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Speaker 1: the media is manipulating now on that one.

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Speaker 2: I have to stick up for the media. I have

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Speaker 2: to tell you he said, the media is manipulating the

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Speaker 2: pictures of him constantly not knowing where the hell he is.

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Speaker 2: They're doing just the opposite, They're.

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Speaker 3: Making the look better.

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Speaker 1: Is it it amazing that the claim that the Biden

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Speaker 1: camp makes that the media is somehow against Biden with

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Speaker 1: these videos goes against everything that we see, which is

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Speaker 1: that the videos are just as I said, observation, It

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Speaker 1: is just a a objective reality, and the media's job

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Speaker 1: is to try to undermine that objective reality on Biden's behalf,

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Speaker 1: to limit to suppress the distribution of that reality however

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Speaker 1: they can, and to create an alternative narrative, namely that

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Speaker 1: there is some insidious effort to make Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: Appear like he's too old and too frail and too senile.

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Speaker 1: Well, is that an effort or is that again observation.

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Speaker 1: That's the big difference here and on the world stage issue.

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Speaker 1: I would just say the fact that the Biden White

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Speaker 1: House is canceling a meeting between Biden and net Yahoo.

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Speaker 3: It stage just goes to show you that he.

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Speaker 1: Is Joe Biden is the ultimate politician in the sense

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Speaker 1: that it is never about what is good or right

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Speaker 1: or true. Ultimate Democrat politician. Perhaps it's about what is

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Speaker 1: useful to him politically in the moment, and the knife

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Speaker 1: in the back of the Israeli people from Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: from his administration could not be more obvious and apparent.

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Speaker 1: We know why it is that Biden has decided suddenly

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Speaker 1: or relatively recently to start to hedge his support for Israel.

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Speaker 1: It's because he is worried, not just about we talk

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Speaker 1: about Muslim voters in Michigan, but he's concerned about the

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Speaker 1: far left base which gets so energized on the issue

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Speaker 1: of Palestine. You should ask Palestinians, you should ask why

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Speaker 1: that is. I noted this morning, you know, big, big

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Speaker 1: story in the New York Times about how there are

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Speaker 1: Arab Muslim militias in the Darfur region of Sudan. This

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Speaker 1: is that they are the new version of what were

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Speaker 1: the known as the Janjaweed militias before which engaged in

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Speaker 1: genocide and the genocide in Darfur. They were a government

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Speaker 1: militia and now this is the new generation of it.

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Speaker 1: But it's Arab Arab Muslim militants who are murdering, raping

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Speaker 1: and starving to death Black Africans as opposed to the

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Speaker 1: Arab Muslims of the of the militias. They're starving them

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Speaker 1: to death and there already have been tens of thousands

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Speaker 1: of people killed by them, and you would wonder, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is a horrible situation. We've heard of darfour. We

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Speaker 1: know that Sudan broke into multiple countries. You've got South

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Speaker 1: Sudan now, and you know there are these RSF militias

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Speaker 1: that are surrounding a city in Darfur, the Darfur region,

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Speaker 1: of almost two million peoples. There's a lot by the way,

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Speaker 1: that's the same number of people that are in Gaza,

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Speaker 1: same number of people roughly, I mean, you know, Gaza

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Speaker 1: I think is about two million, one point six or

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Speaker 1: one point eight million, something like that. But they're surrounding

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Speaker 1: these people, and there are massive refugee camps. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's an absolute mess. And you have Arab Muslims behind this, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know who comprise this militia who are killing people

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Speaker 1: and using rape as a weapon of war.

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Speaker 3: Where are the protests in streets about this?

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Speaker 1: Why isn't there equivalent anger from the American left about

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Speaker 1: this issue? I've brought up before in Yemen, You've had

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Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people killed in the Many Civil War,

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Speaker 1: and certainly you could call different aspects of that genocide,

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Speaker 1: could make the case. And yet there have been no

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Speaker 1: protests in the streets. You don't have people walking around

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Speaker 1: a party to genocide, even though guess what we were

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Speaker 1: the ones providing the Saudis with the munitions that were

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Speaker 1: being used to fight against the Huthi militants and Yemen bad.

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Speaker 1: You know, they don't pay attention to any of this.

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Speaker 1: Why the issue of Jews and Palestinians gets so much

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Speaker 1: more attention from the American left is I think something

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Speaker 1: you need to always remember. They viewed as a white

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Speaker 1: oppressor of Muslims conflict. And that is why what's going

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Speaker 1: from the Okay, I know the New York Times is

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Speaker 1: writing about it, but I'm talking when I say attention,

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Speaker 1: and I mean political mobilization. We've seen what they've done

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Speaker 1: over Gaza. We've seen the campus protests and people shouting

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Speaker 1: Where if it's about protecting human life and the ending

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Speaker 1: of genocide, why isn't the slow motion mass murder of

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Speaker 1: the left. We all know the answers, right, we all understand.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's worth pointing that out. That Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden is doing what he does on the state of

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Speaker 1: Israel right now because all his talk about how we're

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Speaker 1: about them, that's because it's to his and the Democrats'

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Speaker 1: political advantage. The second that changes, it's snubbing net Nyaho,

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Speaker 1: calling for more accountability from the Israelis, slow rolling weapons

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Speaker 1: shipments to them, I mean doing really a betrayal of

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Speaker 1: an ally, is what you were seeing. So it's not

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Speaker 1: just that Biden is a dotting fool, which he is,

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Speaker 1: it's that he's a dishonest and destructive one too, which

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Speaker 1: I think is obviously even worse.

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Speaker 2: If you're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact

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Speaker 6: Buck I would say things continue to look bad for

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden out there in the polling marketplace, but also

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Speaker 6: just the discussion marketplace that is so much of the

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Speaker 6: public perception. Let me give you a couple of data

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Speaker 6: points out there, number one, and I want to unpack

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Speaker 6: this with you a little bit. Here, Buck, the Iowa

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Speaker 6: poll that we reference, that's done by the Des Moines Register,

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Speaker 6: by this sort of pole wizard, has Donald Trump up

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Speaker 6: eighteen points. Reminder, Trump won Iowa by eight in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 6: I want to talk a bit about that with you. Also,

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Speaker 6: there is an economist sort of running tallly on what

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Speaker 6: they expect to see from the election. Joe Biden now

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Speaker 6: is down to Donald Trump in the probability that they

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Speaker 6: that he will win the election seventy two to twenty eight.

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Speaker 6: The economist is not a partisan news outlet, so to speak.

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Speaker 6: It's very obviously as you would.

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Speaker 1: Expect business, not a Trump partisan news.

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Speaker 3: Outlet, that's for sure.

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Speaker 6: Yes, And for Trump to have opened in their tallly,

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Speaker 6: which looks at polling, which looks at economic indicators, for

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Speaker 6: him to have opened a seventy two to twenty eight

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Speaker 6: lead is pretty seismic.

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Speaker 1: So Buck, I want to hit you with this.

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Speaker 6: I went back and I looked, and I said, okay,

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Speaker 6: let's have an actual conversation about the data, not only

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Speaker 6: in Iowa, but how it has traditionally trend. And you

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Speaker 6: mentioned earlier in the first hour, Trump up eighteen fifty

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Speaker 6: to thirty two nine for RFK junior, Joe Biden's approval

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Speaker 6: down to twenty eight percent. This is the des Moines

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Speaker 6: Register and Seltzer poll that she has been doing for

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Speaker 6: years and years. And to put this into context, a

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Speaker 6: couple of different points here that I think are very significant.

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Speaker 6: First of all, Ann Selzer's been doing these Des Moines

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Speaker 6: Register polls for a long time.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember buck.

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Speaker 6: In twenty twenty in the fall when she went from

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Speaker 6: in June of twenty twenty, so four years ago, Trump

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Speaker 6: was up one. She had Trump up one in Iowa

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Speaker 6: this time in the four year news cycle that's June

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Speaker 6: of twenty twenty. September of twenty twenty, she had a

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Speaker 6: dead tie. In her last poll that she put out,

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Speaker 6: she had Trump up seven. He went on to win

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Speaker 6: Iowa by about eight. This for many people, a wait

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Speaker 6: many people anticipate because Anzeltz has such a reputation for

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Speaker 3: Nobody. No one's gonna say, oh, that's a bad poll

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Speaker 1: That those numbers are catastrophic for Biden in a state

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Speaker 3: For Biden.

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Speaker 6: The problem that Biden has is, even if they shoot

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Speaker 6: Even if they shoot him up with everything and he

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Speaker 4: Look at Black voters under the age of fifty. Holy cow, folks,

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Speaker 4: Mister Berman home, I just never seen anything like this.

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Speaker 6: I think this is real, and I know we've got

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a couple things happening here. One is in

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Speaker 1: The allegiance of the older black voters is I would assume,

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: I think that could factor up in here as well.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in

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Speaker 1: Politics with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, joined by the

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Speaker 1: Governor of Iowa, Kim Reynolds. Governor Reynolds appreciate you coming

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Speaker 1: by spending some time with us today.

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Speaker 7: Oh hi, Buck, it's great to be with you. I

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Speaker 7: appreciate the opportunity. So thanks.

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Speaker 3: Let's launch into this one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was we love that we can present

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Speaker 1: encouraging news out there. The pollster who just had I'm

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Speaker 1: forgetting and Seltzer I think out of Iowa.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she showing that Trump.

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Speaker 1: Is up eighteen points in your state of Iowa, which

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Speaker 1: just seems like an absolute break the glass moment for

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Speaker 1: the Democrats here. What can you tell us about this one?

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Speaker 1: I mean, does that track with what you think is

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Speaker 1: going on in your state?

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Speaker 7: Oh? Absolutely, it tracks. You know, we've carried Iowa for

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Speaker 7: President Trump both times. We did really well the last

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Speaker 7: cycle here in the state of Iowa. They love his policies.

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Speaker 7: They are sick and tired of what is coming out

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Speaker 7: of the Biden administration. They love this country, We love

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Speaker 7: our freedom and our independence, and we want a president'll

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Speaker 7: get this country back on track. And they, without a doubt,

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Speaker 7: we know that President Trump is the guy that can

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Speaker 7: do that. On day one, he'll close the border. You know,

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Speaker 7: we're miles away from the southern border, but every single

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Speaker 7: governor knows the consequences of his open border, and we're

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Speaker 7: dealing with it every single day. Coupled with just the

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Speaker 7: insanity and the weakness on the world stage and just

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Speaker 7: the peer incompetence that we see happening with the Biden administration,

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Speaker 7: and I think you know, I was at an event

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Speaker 7: last night, a fundraiser, and they're ready to go to

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Speaker 7: the match. When we talked about President Trump's record and

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Speaker 7: what he'll do for this country, people were on their

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Speaker 7: feet and they were clapping and yelling and and really

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Speaker 7: just they understand the seriousness of this election. They've seen

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Speaker 7: firsthand how fast failed leadership can really destroy the greatness

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Speaker 7: of this country. We always say we're resilient. This country

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Speaker 7: is resilient, and if we get this election right, I

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Speaker 7: have no doubt that we'll restore the greatness of this

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Speaker 7: country and our presence on the world stage. But you know,

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Speaker 7: we got to make it happen, and we will make

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Speaker 7: it happen here in the state of Iowa.

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Speaker 1: How is the illegal immigration issue affecting your state. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you saw. Biden had this essentially this executive order

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Speaker 1: amnesty that he announced this week, and it comes at

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Speaker 1: a time with his number on illegal immigration are really

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Speaker 1: another big problem from going into this election cycle.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, just the insanity of the policies that

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Speaker 7: he puts in place two weeks ago. First of all,

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Speaker 7: he said he couldn't use an executive order to do

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Speaker 7: anything to stop the infiltration of our country. Then he

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Speaker 7: stands up in an executive order which basically solidifies and

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Speaker 7: says it's okay to have a certain number of illegals

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Speaker 7: coming across the border into our country. And you know,

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Speaker 7: it just it just there's no consistency. And then he

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Speaker 7: does the Amnesty Executive Order, which basically sends the message

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Speaker 7: to the world that we're open the time is now

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Speaker 7: across across our border illegally, and you'll have a path

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Speaker 7: to citizenship down the road. So it's it's ridiculous. And

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Speaker 7: as I said, every single governor is dealing with increase

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Speaker 7: in violent crime, drug seizures. George is seeing an increase

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Speaker 7: in overdose deeps. The funtinel that's coming into our communities

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Speaker 7: and just killing our children is unconscionable. When you look

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Speaker 7: at Rachel Moron and a mom of five in Maryland

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Speaker 7: that was raped and brutally murdered a legal immigrant, you know,

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Speaker 7: I mean the thirteen year old b girl in New

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Speaker 7: York that was abducted and raped. I mean, they can regulate.

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Speaker 7: The list goes on and on and on, and all

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Speaker 7: of those did not need to happen. You know, you're

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Speaker 7: not a country if you don't have a secure border,

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Speaker 7: and we need to. And that's another reason. I mean,

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Speaker 7: President Trump on day one will secure the border and

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Speaker 7: start the deportation of the eleven million in counting or

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Speaker 7: ten whatever the number is that have come into our

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Speaker 7: country illegally.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that passed the law?

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Speaker 7: I don't know if you want to talk about that,

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Speaker 7: but we actually passed the law to really stop the

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Speaker 7: revolving door.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 7: You know here in Iowa we.

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Speaker 3: Need tell let's let's go dive in.

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Speaker 7: We made it a state crime for illegal immigrants to

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Speaker 7: enter Iowa if they've been denied a mission or deported.

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Speaker 7: And you know, so we we you know, if the

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Speaker 7: president again is not going to do his constitutional duty

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Speaker 7: to protect the American citizens and the sovereignty of our country.

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Speaker 7: As a governor, my number one priority is to protect

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Speaker 7: the health and safety of our citizens. And so I

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Speaker 7: can tell you without hesitation, if he's not going to

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Speaker 7: do what he is required to do as the president

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Speaker 7: of this country, then the states are going to step in.

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Speaker 7: We we had a you know, Judge enjoined it yesterday

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Speaker 7: or the day before was probably the most aggressive route

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Speaker 7: that he could take to block the legislation. But but

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Speaker 7: really what we did a little bit different in the

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Speaker 7: state of Iowa is it doesn't supersede federal law. It

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Speaker 7: actually codifies in state law what the what the federal law.

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Speaker 7: That's what's already what the federal already deems illegal. So

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Speaker 7: we think there's a good possibility that the US Supreme

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Speaker 7: Court will eventually take up this case. This one, or

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Speaker 7: Texas or Oklahoma, I think is all also passed a

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Speaker 7: similar case. You're probably going to continue to see more

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Speaker 7: states take a look at this, and we think we

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Speaker 7: have a strong legal argument to distinguish our law from

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Speaker 7: the Arizona case that was actually already taken up the

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Speaker 7: United States Supreme Court in twenty twelve, I think it was.

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Speaker 7: But it differs from that again because Arizona's preceded the

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Speaker 7: federal law. We don't we just codify what is already

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Speaker 7: federal law. So we don't think the precedent that they

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Speaker 7: use really applies to this case. And on that case,

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Speaker 7: there were three justices that dissented, and that included Thomas

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Speaker 7: and Alito. So you know, again, it just boils back

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Speaker 7: to all we're trying to do is enforce the US

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Speaker 7: immigration laws. We're trying to protect our citizens, and we're

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Speaker 7: stepping in to do what President Biden has failed to

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Speaker 7: do his constitutional duty to protect the citizens and the

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Speaker 7: celebrignty of this country.

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Speaker 1: We're speaking to Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds and to that end,

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Speaker 1: Governor Reynolds, when you talk about stepping up and doing

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Speaker 1: what's necessary to enforce the law if we have another

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Speaker 1: Trump presidency, is the state of Iowa prepared on this

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Speaker 1: issue of illegal immigration to use state resources to help

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Speaker 1: with enforcement and also with deportation, effectively acting alongside federal

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Speaker 1: counterparts to enforce immigration law.

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Speaker 7: Oh absolutely, that's what I'm trying to do. With the

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Speaker 7: state law that we passed. We're ready to go. You know.

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Speaker 7: The unfortunate thing is, you know, we've got President Biden

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Speaker 7: is bussing and flying illegal immigrants to all parts of

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Speaker 7: the country. And this is one of the reasons that

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Speaker 7: makes it so devastating is we have no ideas the

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Speaker 7: governor of our states, who's coming in to our state.

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Speaker 7: We get no advanced notice they're coming in. We had

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Speaker 7: this happened a couple of years ago with they flu

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Speaker 7: in the middle of the night fifteen young girls into

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Speaker 7: the Des Moines airport and then they had three charter

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Speaker 7: buses on you know, they loaded them up on that

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Speaker 7: and took them out of the state. And for six

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Speaker 7: months I tried to get answers from this administration about

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Speaker 7: continued to deny that they had any involvement in it whatsoever.

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Speaker 7: And you know, we said, well, we're not going to

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Speaker 7: let this go because it's either human traffic, you know,

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Speaker 7: this is human trafficking or something that's going on if

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Speaker 7: we are going to get to the bottom of it,

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Speaker 7: and we worked with Senator Grassley who also helped hold

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Speaker 7: them accountable, and they finally admitted that, yeah, they were

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Speaker 7: the ones that had blown them into Iowa in the

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Speaker 7: middle of the night, unloaded them onto and then loaded

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Speaker 7: them onto three charter buses. And I don't know where

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Speaker 7: they went from there, but it's just unconscionable what we

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Speaker 7: see happening. And you know, if you're a country without borders,

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Speaker 7: you're not a country. And it needs to stop. We

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Speaker 7: need to elect a president that will stop it, that

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Speaker 7: will do what's already not only the constitutional duty, but

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Speaker 7: there's statutes federal status you that says you need to

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Speaker 7: you know, deny and you can't deny or detain and

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Speaker 7: and basically, as you know, they're just mass parrolling illegal

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Speaker 7: immigrants into our country, denying and going against what the

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Speaker 7: law already says.

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Speaker 1: And Governor Reynolds, I don't know if you saw this,

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Speaker 1: but the cover of New York magazine, which is still

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Speaker 1: a thing still exists, y has a headline that the

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Speaker 1: main story is are Republican women Okay? And it says

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Speaker 1: that they're looking at the new mold of Republican womanhood

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Speaker 1: in the age of Trump and all of its wrath, sweetness, strength,

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Speaker 1: and subservience to maga. What do you what do you

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Speaker 1: make of this? I mean, are they concerned that that

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Speaker 1: they're not going to.

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Speaker 7: Be able to thought and we might have an idea. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: we're ready to go to the mat to defend our

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Speaker 7: basic freedom and liberty that we don't think government that

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Speaker 7: the answer that we believe in our people. I mean,

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Speaker 7: it's in life and liberty and the Second Amendment. It's crazy.

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Speaker 7: I don't know who said it. We also upset it here,

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Speaker 7: but I mean, this is from a party that can't

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Speaker 7: define a woman. So give me a break. Once they

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Speaker 7: figure out what a woman is and they stopped trying

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Speaker 7: to erase women, then maybe they can, you know, enter

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Speaker 7: into the mix. But listen, I am proud to have

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Speaker 7: the opportunity to serve the people of Iowa. I actually

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Speaker 7: was the governor during COVID, and I'm telling you we

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Speaker 7: took a different approach than a lot of the other states.

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Speaker 7: We actually put our trust in faith in the people.

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Speaker 7: In the people of Iowa. We gave them information every

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Speaker 7: single day, We passed a lot. We were one of

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Speaker 7: the first states to get the kids back in the classroom.

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Speaker 7: We did. You know, we were set alog against taxine

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Speaker 7: and mask mandates. We kept businesses open. We in Iowa.

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Speaker 7: You know, we our farmers produced ten percent of the

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Speaker 7: nation's food supply, so it was essential that we continued

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Speaker 7: to keep the food supply chain moving. And you know,

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Speaker 7: we've got great things happening in the state of Iowa.

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Speaker 7: Despite the challenges from the Biden administration. We have an

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Speaker 7: economy that's growing. We're cutting taxes. Starting January one, we'll

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Speaker 7: go to a three point eight percent black tax and

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Speaker 7: naturally cutting government and red tape. I mean, I cut

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Speaker 7: twenty one agencies from my cabinet. We just get a

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Speaker 7: realignment with behavioral health, where we went for thirty two

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Speaker 7: separate agencies down to seven regions to help really align

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Speaker 7: and provide better resources to Iowance. We actually support our

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Speaker 7: law enforcement and we're keeping our communities safe. And that's

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Speaker 7: a story that plays out in every single state that's

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Speaker 7: led by a Republican governor. And it is certainly a

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Speaker 7: contrast to what you're seeing in California and New York

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Speaker 7: and Minnesota and Illinois. The contrast is stark, and we

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Speaker 7: no longer tax retirement or inheritance tax reducing the corporate

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Speaker 7: We've got a great story to tell and people are

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Speaker 7: paying attention, and I'm proud of what we're doing. I'm

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Speaker 7: proud to serve the people of Iowa, and I'm looking

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Speaker 7: forward to serving and working again with President Trump. When

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Speaker 7: he did the tax cut in his first four years,

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Speaker 7: it really was the jump start for Iowa to go

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Speaker 7: in in twenty eighteen and really start reducing taxes. And

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Speaker 7: I've signed five tax reform bills since twenty eighteen. Our

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Speaker 7: individual income tax rate we had nine brackets eight point

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Speaker 7: nine eight percent, and as I said, we'll go to

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Speaker 7: a flat three point eight starting January one, and we're

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Speaker 7: not done. We're on. We're going to keep lowering that

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Speaker 7: tax burden on Iowa's which really helps offset some of

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Speaker 7: the you know, just the inflationaries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the federal pressures on everybody that are out there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I look red states like yours that are that are

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Speaker 1: doing well are clearly part of the overall narrative and

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Speaker 1: I think helpful to Donald Trump as well as the

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Speaker 1: rest of the Republicans running for a federal office. Right now,

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Speaker 1: Governor Reynolds, Iowa, appreciate you being with us and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you soon.

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Speaker 7: Okay, thanks for letting me Philibuster, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Bye, Javy, thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: If you're listening to twenty four The Year of Impact

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Speaker 2: with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 6: Right now, doctor Ben Carson is with us, a retired neurosurgeon,

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Speaker 6: former hud secretary under Trump new book The Perilous Fight

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Speaker 6: Overcoming Our Culture's War on the American Family, and doctor

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Speaker 6: Carson appreciate you joining us. We were just playing a

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Speaker 6: poll that discussed the increasing amount of support, especially among

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Speaker 6: young black voters, that is out there for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 6: You travel the country a great deal talking to people,

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Speaker 6: and you have for years.

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Speaker 3: Do you see that.

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Speaker 6: Do you think black voters are more open to Trump

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Speaker 6: than they were in sixteen or twenty. What are you

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Speaker 6: seeing out on your travels and your discussions.

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Speaker 5: Yah, there's a big difference between the previous time because

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Speaker 5: they've had an actual chance to see what he does.

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Speaker 5: You know, he actually does what he says. He's unlike

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Speaker 5: most politicians, and he's transparent. You never have to sit

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Speaker 5: there and wonder what he's thinking. He's going to tell

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Speaker 5: you what he's thinking. And I think people appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: They've also seen the impact of his policies. You know,

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Speaker 5: the average American had a wage gain of eight point

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Speaker 5: two percent during the Trump administration and a three point

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Speaker 5: two percent decrease under Biden. That's a big swing. And

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Speaker 5: people feel that when they go to the gas plant,

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Speaker 5: when they open their utility bills, you know, when they

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Speaker 5: go to the grocery stores. And I think people recognize

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Speaker 5: now it's become patently obvious that the media is very

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Speaker 5: biased and will say whatever they need to say in

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Speaker 5: order to support the ideology and their candidate, as opposed

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Speaker 5: to providing the truth. So people are discounting a lot

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Speaker 5: of what they took as Gospel before.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Carson, appreciate you being with us. You, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: know that there is a chatter out there reporting sources

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Speaker 1: close to the former president on this issue that you

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Speaker 1: are in contention for the vice president role on a

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Speaker 1: Trump ticket. Can you just tell us have you had

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Speaker 1: any conversations with President Trump about this and whether you

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Speaker 1: have or not, would you be ready to serve in

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Speaker 1: the role of VP if called upon?

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Speaker 5: And I've had that conversation. Was talked about what we

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Speaker 5: can do to save this country, and I am four

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Speaker 5: square committed to doing that from within the administration or

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Speaker 5: outside of the administration. Then I continue to be dedicated

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Speaker 5: to that one way or the other.

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Speaker 6: We're talking, doctor Ben Carson. In your in your telling,

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Speaker 6: I know you've got grandchildren. Now, when you look at

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Speaker 6: the history of the country, are you more optimistic today

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Speaker 6: or pessimistic based on the way you see things going?

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm optimistic when you just look at the facts.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's some pessimism when you look at all

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Speaker 5: the spend. You know, for instance, a lot of people

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Speaker 5: on the left like to tell you we haven't made

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Speaker 5: much progress in terms of race relationships. And yet you know,

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Speaker 5: I vividly remember as a six year old going to Chatanooga,

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Speaker 5: Tennessee and seeing the whites and colored signs and having

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Speaker 5: people explain that to me. And yet in the very

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Speaker 5: same lifetime, it's got black admirals in generals and CEOs

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Speaker 5: of fortune, five hundred companies and hits, the foundations, university presidents.

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Speaker 5: We've had a black President of the United States. I mean,

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Speaker 5: to sit there and say that we haven't made tremendous

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Speaker 5: progress is absolutely fine. But some people do that. They

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Speaker 5: just have blinders on and they think if they keep

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Speaker 5: repeating something that people will come to believe that we've

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Speaker 5: made enormous progress. It doesn't mean that we've reached nirvana.

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Speaker 5: We have ways to go. But the way we do

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Speaker 5: that is that we learn from things that have occurred

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Speaker 5: in the past. We don't try to bury them, we

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Speaker 5: don't try to rewrite them. We learn from them the good,

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Speaker 5: the bad, and ugly. But the fact of the matter is,

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Speaker 5: when it comes to the United States, there's a lot

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Speaker 5: more good than there is bad and ugly.

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Speaker 1: Talking to doctor Ben Carson, he's got a new book,

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Speaker 1: The Perilous Fight, Overcoming Our Culture's War on the American Family.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Carson, what do you think is the most important

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Speaker 1: thing that could be done as a policy matter. I mean,

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Speaker 1: certainly there's just community, there's church, there's there's a synagogue.

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Speaker 1: There's so many aspects to the way that we can

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Speaker 1: have a family focused future here in this country. But

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Speaker 1: what do you think policy level could be done differently

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Speaker 1: or could be done to help family formation because there

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Speaker 1: is clearly a crisis of family in America today.

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Speaker 5: Well, there's no question when you look at family formation.

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Speaker 5: The average birth per woman is down to one point

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Speaker 5: six now it requires two point one in order to

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Speaker 5: maintain the population. So that's a real issue. But I

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Speaker 5: think policy wise, we need to firmly put in place

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Speaker 5: something about voting. Voting can only occur if you're an

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Speaker 5: American citizen, because if we don't get that firmly in place,

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Speaker 5: there's going to be some major problems coming down the

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Speaker 5: pike here with all these people who've infiltraated our country.

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Speaker 6: We're talking to doctor Ben Carson, building on what Buck

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Speaker 6: just said. Yesterday was Father's Day. Having Father's Day to you,

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Speaker 6: and as I've said, all the dads out there, if

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Speaker 6: you look at the data starting about the time that

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Speaker 6: Lyndon Johnson began The Great Society. The percentage of fathers

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Speaker 6: inside of homes, that is, two parent households has collapsed.

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Speaker 6: It collapsed for white, Black, Asian, and Hispanic families if

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Speaker 6: you look at the data, but particularly for black families.

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Speaker 6: How does that get addressed and how can we talk

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Speaker 6: about the importance of dads being in the home and

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Speaker 6: what they mean for kids to help to reverse not

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Speaker 6: only as you just pointed out, every woman only having

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Speaker 6: one point six kids. We've got a real population crisis

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Speaker 6: everywhere Japan, China, United States, Italy. It doesn't really matter

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Speaker 6: the country, but dad's not being present in households has

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Speaker 6: a devastating impact on individual kid outcomes. What do we

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Speaker 6: do to address that?

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, we acknowledge it. You know, the

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Speaker 5: liberal think tanks and the conservative thing tanks both come

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Speaker 5: to the same conclusion, and that is children raised in

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Speaker 5: a traditional, nuclear parent family do much better on every level, career, academics,

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Speaker 5: trouble with police, mental status, everything. So we should first

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Speaker 5: of all acknowledge that and then don't ignore that when

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Speaker 5: it comes to the kinds of things that we do

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Speaker 5: in our society, kinds of rules that we make the

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Speaker 5: policies that we have. You know, I think about you know,

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Speaker 5: when I was at HUD. You know, there's a policy

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Speaker 5: that if you're receiving government assistance and your income goes up,

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Speaker 5: you have to report that immediately so your rent can

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Speaker 5: go up. That's not a big incentive to improve yourself.

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Speaker 5: You bring somebody else into the household with an income,

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Speaker 5: you have to report that so that your rent can

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Speaker 5: go up. You know, that's not something that's going to

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Speaker 5: increase family formation. So you know, we need to actually

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Speaker 5: make our policies congruent with what we know to be

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Speaker 5: facts and do things based on facts and that ideology

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Speaker 5: that would make a huge difference.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Ben Carson, The book is the perilous fight overcoming

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Speaker 1: our culture's war on the American family, Doctor Carson, always

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Speaker 1: an honor, sir, Thanks for spending some time with us today.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me. Take care