1 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: You still want to fire Booner. 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: What's going on? 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's ever gonna change. 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Honestly, what do you mean it's never gonna change. 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 3: Now we've started. 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: What do you mean that's not gonna change. 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm a little bit like. 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 4: I just watched the Yankees sometimes and I go, yeah, 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 4: we hit great, that's great, that's right. What else do 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 4: we do? I don't know, but we hit great and 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 4: there's not much else there. So also I'm just kind 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 4: of like breaking the ice a little bit about watching 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 4: the Yanks once again. As I think I told you 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 4: a few weeks ago, like I was, I'm pissed at 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 4: the Yankees. 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 3: I am. I was a little bitter at them. 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 4: I couldn't turn on the game earlier in the season 18 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 4: because I was just like, how the fuck do we 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 4: let Wan Soto go to the Mets? 20 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: Right? 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: Right? 22 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: So that like bothers me. 23 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 4: And then you know, I've joked around, but I'm like 24 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 4: I kind of serious where I'm like, I don't know, 25 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 4: maybe we need to sell the team. We need a 26 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 4: rich hedge funder. We're the Yankees. We shouldn't be outspend 27 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 4: by anybody, Okay, we're we're that's not doesn't make sense. 28 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: Especially the Mets. I mean, especially the Mets. 29 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: Exactly. 30 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 4: We're paying Aaron Judge the cheapest contract out of any superstar, 31 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: and like ever, I mean, you kidding me, it's the 32 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 4: greatest deal in the history of pro sports. He's playing 33 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 4: like Babe Ruth and we're paying him like he's just 34 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 4: a good player in the Major League Baseball. So yeah, 35 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 4: I'm just getting over that a little bit. And uh, 36 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 4: I've heard some crazy stories about Juan Sota's decision and 37 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: all that to go to the Mets and everything there too, 38 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 4: and mom was involved and very involved in the decision, 39 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: and that's kind of crazy too, But I don't know 40 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 4: how much of that's true. 41 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 5: If you haven't been paying attention, I could fill you 42 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 5: in with the Yankees Max Freed. He's looking like. 43 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: A cy young Clark Schmitt. 44 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 5: Six scoreless innings yesterday, Aaron Judge four home runs over 45 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 5: the past three year, and he's. 46 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: Complaining, I mean, screw Billy. I don't need Billy anymore. 47 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: We got Taylor, and I think you Taylor. 48 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 5: I come from Billy Gill's coaching tree. Difference is I 49 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 5: respect Sims. 50 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: Oh Man you right, and you probably know something about sports, 51 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: so that's what makes you better than Billy exactly. 52 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 5: I'm a ballner, he's a ball knower. We both played 53 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 5: college football, so we kind of have that connection there. 54 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Taylor played college football, Sims. There you go. 55 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: I mean, look at he looks like an athlete. 56 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: I mean, he certainly looks more athletic than Billy in 57 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: that big roundhead he's got. This guy's got a streamlined head, 58 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 4: a little neck and shoulders. Yeah, and he doesn't wear 59 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 4: stupid hats and stuff like that. So I like Taylor 60 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 4: right away. 61 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: I mean, can you believe this shit? You and I 62 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: are sitting here working mid June. You have your quarterback 63 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: rankings out. We'll get to him in just a second. 64 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: Billy and mikey a both on vacation. 65 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, seriously, I mean, the NFL is still practicing, We're 66 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 4: still going on. God bless football, God bless those two 67 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 4: that they just get to do whatever the fuck they 68 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: want whenever they want. That's great, that's great. We'll just 69 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 4: keep working though. 70 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: You and me. Taylor, Taylor's got the work ethic we need. 71 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: Listen, you and I are both working for Billy. I 72 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: mean that's the deal. 73 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, don't ever say that in a sentence again, 74 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 4: that's not true. 75 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 76 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: BFD with Mike Florio every Day Up Peacock The Unbuttoned 77 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 2: podcast Football Night in America as well. 78 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: Quarterback rankings are out, Chris Simms. 79 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: Quarterback rankings are out, and no one knows how to 80 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: get the people talking like you do. 81 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: You are an expert at this, Chris Simms. 82 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: To his credit, no one is watching more film on 83 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: these guys than Chris Simms is. But you have Patrick Mahomes. 84 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: He's in your core four. But he's number four in 85 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 2: your core four. I love it. 86 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 4: I mean, listen, it's one of the harder things I've 87 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 4: ever had to do. And then this is not an 88 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: easy subject, like coming up. We know the top four, right, 89 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 4: We've discussed this a million times. They're special. I don't 90 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: know if there's ever been four so similar in age 91 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: in their prime all together at the same time in 92 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 4: the league as we've seen right now, right. I mean, 93 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 4: there's some other ones in history you might be able 94 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: to go back to, like Marino, L w Right, Joe 95 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 4: Montana and maybe a Jim Kelly that era there we 96 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: had Steve Young, and Brett Farv and Troy Aikman and 97 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 4: John Elway in the mid nineties and all that. But 98 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 4: I think, you know what I'm saying here, this is 99 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 4: a special for you know, how would I think of Mahomes? Right, 100 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 4: Mahomes is arguably the greatest quarterback I've ever seen, all right, 101 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 4: But that doesn't mean necessarily he's played the best football 102 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 4: over the last really two years of his career, where 103 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: it's just been like, oh my gosh, every game is surgical, 104 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 4: big plays, wow. Right, And I know some of that's 105 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 4: the team around him, and I take all that into 106 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 4: account certainly, right, But I and he's mastered winning. Mahomes 107 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: is mastered winning. And I know a lot of people 108 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 4: when they see that that I've made this comment on 109 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: my podcast, they go, well, isn't that a point. 110 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: Doesn't that mean you're a great quarterback? Yes, it is. 111 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: But like we put winning a little too much on 112 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 4: the quarterback shoulders a little too much lately. I don't 113 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 4: remember my dad beating John Elway in the Super Bowl 114 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 4: and people going, you know what, Phil Simms is better 115 00:04:59,200 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: than John Elway. 116 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: Team won, He's better, right, all right? 117 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 4: Right, So we like to pick and choose when we 118 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: use that, and is again, how many I come on 119 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 4: here and nobody talks higher than Patrick Mahomes. So I 120 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: love him, I really do. And a part of what 121 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 4: I am in my career is because of Patrick Mahomes. 122 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 4: I mean I'm the one that was, hey, he should 123 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 4: be the number one pick in the draft. I think 124 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 4: he knows I love him and the respect I have there. 125 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 4: But when then mastering winning and the way their team 126 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 4: is and all that, it hasn't necessarily led itself to 127 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: the best quarterback play, Okay, And that's what we're here evaluating. 128 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 4: And again this is where it gets hard, because, yeah, 129 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 4: you watched film last year. I mean again, the Chiefs 130 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: won by the skinner to their teeth almost in every 131 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 4: single game the whole year. Yes, and within that, the 132 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 4: offense was never the story. We've come on, We've talked 133 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 4: about it. They're a defensive football team, okay, And I 134 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 4: it's great that he's adjusted to that and all that 135 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 4: as well. But he's afforded luckies too because of how 136 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 4: good the team is. That I would tell you Josh 137 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: Allen or Joe Burrow don't have the luxury Mahomes can 138 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 4: throw a ball away on third down or first down, like, oh, 139 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 4: the guy's kind of covered, but let me kind of 140 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 4: put it in the spot. 141 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: Maybe he gets it, maybe not if it's incomplete. What else, 142 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: So what, We'll punt the ball away. 143 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 4: Our defense will keep us in the game, and I'll 144 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 4: keep playing that way. He can sometimes be maybe overly 145 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: aggressive because I think he knows his defense is too, 146 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 4: is great, And sometimes he can be almost too conservative 147 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: and wait for somebody to be way open because I 148 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 4: think he's also like, hey, hey, I'll just wait and 149 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 4: now he's one of the clutches quarterbacks we've ever seen, 150 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 4: of course. But what I'm getting to more than anything is, yes, 151 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 4: the play game by game. If you sat there and 152 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: watched film with me from last year, and I even 153 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: take a little bit in the year before that into 154 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 4: account too, you'd sit here and go, oh my gosh, 155 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 4: I mean Burrow, it's of course, one after another, Alan, 156 00:06:59,160 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: it's a lot. 157 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: I mean it's a. 158 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: Lot of amazing, maybe not surgical every week, and then 159 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 4: you get to Lamar Jackson you go, oh my gosh, 160 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 4: it's surgical. It's unbelievable. In the pocket, it's great reads, 161 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 4: it's unbelievable. Versatility of throws, he takes care of the ball, 162 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 4: what he brings to the field, and the elements of 163 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: the run game, his scrambling ability, and it just I 164 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: came into the exercise thinking Josh Allen was going to 165 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 4: be my number one quarterback on the list, and then 166 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 4: as I cracked through film, I went, there's just no denying. 167 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 4: I mean, Lamar's year was phenomenal. He's been playing phenomenal 168 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: and yeah, right now, I don't think anybody's playing the 169 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 4: quarterback position better than Lamar Jackson in the NFL. 170 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: You know, Mahomes is interesting to me because when you 171 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: say he's mastered winning, we all know Mahomes is capable. 172 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: If he needs to to go out and throw for 173 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: five hundred yards and five touchdowns zero, We've seen him 174 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: do it, Chris, We've seen him do it right and 175 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: the biggest of games. But you're right, he makes like 176 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: clock management and all that stuff. 177 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: That stuff is very. 178 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: Important and it goes into the ingredients of winning football games, 179 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: and Mahomes has mastered that aspect of the game. 180 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: You're right, he definitely has now. 181 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 4: And again within that too, I mean, you guys have 182 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 4: watched a lot of games or you sit there and 183 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 4: it's like, wait, the Chiefs they look like they're playing 184 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 4: with their food. Oh he made a bad read. Oh 185 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 4: he threw into coverage. Oh awesome play, awesome play. Oh 186 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 4: three and out, three and out, three and out, three 187 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: and out. Oh wait, now they need it. Oh now 188 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 4: they drive down and the score right. And that's where 189 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: he is amating amazing. But like what I would tell 190 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: you again, I don't think some of those other quarterbacks 191 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 4: have the luxury of playing that way. Like if Joe 192 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 4: Burrow sometimes just throws a token ball away on first down, 193 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 4: or you know, just goes, wait, third down, I don't 194 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 4: like it, We'll punt away. 195 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: I'll go. 196 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 4: Well, they're gonna be down by even more than they 197 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 4: were the drive before. 198 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: Like he knows he can't do that. 199 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: And that's where it's hard to do all of this 200 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: and figure it out. And these four are special. It's 201 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 4: nitpicky as hell. Okay, But yeah, the way he's played 202 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 4: the Chiefs, the way they're playing it hasn't led itself 203 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: to the most unbelievable surgicality big plays quarterback way the 204 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: year they beat the Eagles of the Super Bowl, I mean, 205 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 4: that was arguably the greatest year I've ever seen any 206 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 4: quarterback have five thousand yards led the NFL and touchdowns, MVP, 207 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 4: all of that, but it seems like ever since then, yeah, 208 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 4: they haven't been a high functioning offense and he hasn't 209 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: played that type of quarterback play that you're kind of 210 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 4: alluding to, even in the playoffs. See, I get a 211 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 4: lot of feedback of like, yeah, but he beat him 212 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 4: in the playoffs and he did this, and are you 213 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 4: not taking to the account in the playoffs? 214 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: And I go, yeah, of. 215 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 4: Course I am, But like you don't look at any 216 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 4: playoff games the last few years and just go, oh 217 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 4: my gosh, and that game Mahomes set it up, set the. 218 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: World up five one. 219 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, right right, So I'm not And again I'm just 220 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: trying to give everybody and I'm and this was hard 221 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 4: for me. And this is where I'm I give myself 222 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 4: a lot of credit for taking bias out of this, 223 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 4: because I do love Mahomes, but I want to be 224 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: fair to my rankings and my evaluation and everything that way. 225 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 4: And that's where it was a tough one, because yes, 226 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 4: I do think he's already one of the greatest of 227 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 4: all time, but right now, playing the fourth best out 228 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 4: of these guys right here. 229 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: As Mahomes reached out and said, what the fuck are 230 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: you doing? 231 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 4: No, he will, but I'm not even joking. Like again, 232 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 4: those play into my mind, it does, of course. Well, 233 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: my son, he was seeing my rough drafts in my 234 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 4: office on the paper of my top forty. Yeah, and 235 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: when I started to get finally and writing it down 236 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 4: to the end, he saw Mahomes at four and he's shit. 237 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 4: He was literally like, Dad, you can't put Mahomes at four. 238 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 4: He'll never talk to you again. Right, So, like I definitely, 239 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 4: and like, let me tell you. When he said that, 240 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 4: I was like, oh shit, because I like Patrick Mahomes. 241 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 4: You know I've been down to Kansas City in that facility, yeah, 242 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 4: I mean six seven times over the last just two 243 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: or three years. 244 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: I've been there, yep. 245 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 4: So and they have a special place in my heart 246 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 4: that way. And I know what he's capable of, and 247 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 4: I know that, and you know, but but yet everything 248 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 4: I said still stands true. You go to the Ravens 249 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 4: the AFC Championship game, right, You're not gonna sit there 250 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 4: and go, oh my gosh, the offense what they did 251 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 4: that day? No, No, it was they intercepted Lamar Jackson, 252 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 4: they stripped them once, they made Zay Flowers fumble on 253 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 4: the one yard line, going in right, the defense did that? 254 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: We forget this ship man, Yeah, we all forget the 255 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 4: context of That's why I've been trying to say, it's 256 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 4: amazing that they've transitioned to a defensive team compared to 257 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: what they were. What you were alluding to a few 258 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 4: few minutes ago with going, yeah, they used to be 259 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 4: this high flying show act and just unbelievable and doing 260 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: all that. But again, like I said, that doesn't necessarily 261 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 4: lead itself to the best quarterback play week in and 262 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 4: week out in the NFL. 263 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I like doing it through your 264 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: son's prism, where it's who do I want dad to 265 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 2: have a friendship with the most, and it's Patrick Mahomes clearly. 266 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's that's what they can want. 267 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: He loves Mahomes. 268 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 4: I mean, he loves Mahomes, and he knows how he 269 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 4: knows I love Mahomes. 270 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he has access to Mahomes and he doesn't 271 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: want to lose that access, you know. 272 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 4: But I also sit there and go, wait, like I 273 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 4: like Josh Allen. I got a Google relationship with him 274 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 4: and Joe Burrow. They've never been pissed A mean when 275 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 4: I've made them three. 276 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: Or four Wait, it just dawned them me. 277 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: Did you put Lamar a one to straighten your relationship 278 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: with Lamar Jackson? 279 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: They have no relationship with Lamar Jackson. How you do? 280 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: I'm none, So there you go. 281 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 4: I've never even met Lamar Jackson. I've never even said 282 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 4: hello to him, have not had that. I've been on 283 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 4: the field with them in pregame warm ups, I've been 284 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 4: in the same room with him. I've never gotten the 285 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: opportunity to go meet him. But there's no denying what 286 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 4: he's doing and one of the most unbelievable let me 287 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 4: just say this too, running quarterback, arguably the greatest running 288 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: quarterback ever. 289 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 3: Whenever we talk about running quarterbacks in. 290 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 4: Football, we usually are like, well, but in the pocket, 291 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 4: they're just not good enough. They don't go through reads 292 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: because they can run their whole life. They look at 293 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 4: one guy and if he's covered, they go, I'll run 294 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: because something positive always happens. The fact that he's made 295 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 4: this transition to be as unbelievable as he is in 296 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 4: the pocket, making great reads and throws and doing everything 297 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: there along with the athletic ability. It's really kind of 298 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: never been seen to this capacity ever in the history 299 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 4: of the NFL, and that's why it's a special damn group. 300 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 4: Burrows as surgical as you'll ever see. Josh Allen's an 301 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 4: unbelievable freak of nature. Who I don't know if is 302 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: anybody's more valuable to their team right now than Josh Allen. Okay, 303 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 4: and what he does and then we know Mahomes and 304 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: what he does there is super super special. 305 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 2: Is there a guy that's close, like who's the fifth 306 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 2: who's close to cracking the core for it? 307 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: Would Jalen Hurts? 308 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: I mean it has to be in that conversation, Chris, 309 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is the next tier down. 310 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 4: Okay, I have Jalen Hurts number ten. I got a 311 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: lot of respect there, okay, and I like that. But 312 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 4: but we all have a little bit of like recency 313 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 4: biases or or or revisionist history. Sure, the NFC Championship 314 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 4: is good, the Super Bowl was good. 315 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 3: I understand that two of them. 316 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 4: But I got to take in the other twelve or 317 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 4: fourteen weeks before that, where it was below average. That's 318 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 4: where I'm just like people. I want to go, wait, 319 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: Eagles fans, you were booing the quarterback for most of 320 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 4: the year. The offense was the passing offense was the 321 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 4: problem with the team? Aj Brown said it, like point blank, 322 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: what's the problem the passing offense? Does that lead everybody 323 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 4: to believe he's a top five quarterback? I'd never heard 324 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 4: that around any of those other quarterbacks. To go, we 325 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 4: can't throw the ball. Mahomes is a top quarterback in 326 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 4: the football, but the problem with the team is we 327 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 4: can't throw that doesn't people need to hear what comes 328 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: out of their mouth at times. 329 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: That's what happens. So Hurts really good. 330 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if I feel like Hurts his year 331 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 4: in totality was better than the year before with how 332 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: he played at quarterback. He's awesome. He's an awesome leader. 333 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 4: He continues to be better in the pocket. 334 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: For sure. 335 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 4: His running in what he does and brings to the 336 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 4: table that way for the Philadelphia Eagles is very special. 337 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 4: But his throwing is not gonna and is what he 338 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 4: does in the pocket's not gonna blow people away, especially 339 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 4: in NFL circles. It's very simple his arm is I 340 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 4: would say an average NFL arm. It's not like WOA lasers. 341 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 4: His releases I would say about average for an NFL starters, 342 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 4: the quickness of the release. So yeah, there's things there 343 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 4: that still need. 344 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: To be worked on. 345 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 4: But to your point, the next guy, Jayden Daniels has 346 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 4: that potential. Yeah right, yeah, he's number five on my list. 347 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford, I do think dances around that area. 348 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: He does never gets the credit he deserves. CJ. 349 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 4: Stroud certainly has the potential to jump into that crew 350 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: right there, right CJ Stroud. 351 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 3: Anything you think about CJ. 352 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: Stroud in a fall off from last year, it's Texans related, 353 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 4: not CJ. Stroud related. And that's the other thing I 354 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 4: love about doing the processes. I see things like that 355 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 4: more clearly in the offseason when I do this little 356 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 4: quarterback rankings sims. 357 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 5: Who's the quarterback that you're a lot lower on than 358 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 5: most analysts that you just don't see what others are seeing? 359 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I mean Hurts might be one that 360 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 4: jumps up there right in that conversation. I would say, 361 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 4: right now, the one I'm the lowest on and the 362 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 4: one that maybe surprised me the most. It was Dak Prescott. 363 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 4: Dak Prescott, I came away going, man, I'm underwhelmed. It 364 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 4: was the most underwhelmed that came away in any year 365 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 4: doing Dak Prescott. He's the highest paid quarterback in football. 366 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: He's not in the top ten. That says it all. 367 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: And I have a hard time believing that anybody would 368 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: have him in the top ten, because again, we got 369 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 4: some good quarterbacks in football right now. We don't have 370 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 4: a quarterback problem. We got an offensive coordinator problem. As 371 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 4: you hear me say all the time, I'm probably lower 372 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 4: on Tua Taylor, as you know. I mean I'm a 373 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 4: little lower on that, maybe even a little lower on 374 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 4: guys like even though I got him right around you know, 375 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: the twelve thirteen twelve range there in that air area. 376 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 4: So I would say those are the guys probably that 377 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 4: are the most apparent in that category. 378 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: I did ask Billy if he had a question for you, 379 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 2: and he responded, is Trevor Lawrence good? 380 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 4: That a very It's a big year I had like 381 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 4: Dak Prescott, Tua and Trevor all in this category of 382 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 4: like is this it right? And what I call what 383 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 4: I mean by that is like, are they gonna be 384 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 4: able to offer us anymore or it's just what they are. 385 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 4: It's just what they are. It's just like inconsistent. We 386 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: don't know what to expect whatever, and that this will 387 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 4: be big for Trevor Lawrence. 388 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: Is a big year for Trevor Lawrence. 389 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 4: We know that's why was hired and they improved the 390 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 4: offensive line. 391 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 3: They have no excuses. 392 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 4: They got talented receiver around him, and that's where we're 393 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 4: gonna see if Trevor Lawrence can play the type of 394 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 4: football we saw in that one season where they went 395 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: to Kansas City and lost a divisional playoff game. We've 396 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 4: seen one stretch of greatness from Trevor Lawrence. Everything else 397 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 4: has been all over the place. And I'll be interested 398 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 4: to see how this plays out with him and Liam 399 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 4: Cone and Jacksonville. 400 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 2: PFT with Mike Florio every day on Peacock the Unbuttoned 401 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: podcast as well Football Night in America. 402 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm super excited, Chris. 403 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: I'm wondering what your expectations are because I'm super excited 404 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: to see what Bryce Young can become this season. 405 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 3: I hear you there, Yeah, I do. 406 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: And they're a team I think, and you saw it 407 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 4: at the end of the season, it started to click 408 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 4: for him a little bit. There's still things and concerns 409 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 4: where I'm like, it's not perfect right, but it's still 410 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 4: like okay. 411 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 3: Finally he looked comfortable. He looked the party. 412 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,239 Speaker 4: He looked like he should be out there playing and 413 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 4: be the starting quarterback of the Carolina Panthers. 414 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: That's the positive thing. 415 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 4: Now it's gotta be The next step is like, hey, 416 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 4: we're we can go and play and attack and do that. 417 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 4: We don't have to like, ooh, we don't want to 418 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 4: call this because he doesn't do it that great, or 419 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 4: he doesn't understand it yet, or he's not comfortable in 420 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 4: the pocket. In these situations, we got to see it 421 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 4: full fledge. Go forward. And I think with the in 422 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 4: their offensive line and adding some weapons at receiver, yeah, 423 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 4: I would. I would think Bryce Young considered continues to 424 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 4: kind of go in that upward direction. 425 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is in Pittsburgh now he has a well 426 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 2: he's married, and he said, listen, all the typical things 427 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: you would expect from Maren. 428 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm married. I'm not going to tell you who I'm 429 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: married to. 430 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: I didn't even tell anyone I was getting married and 431 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin is good for my soul. 432 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: What do you make of that fit? 433 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: I think it's a really good fit. 434 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: So I know. 435 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 4: The Steelers have had below average quarterback play for you know, 436 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 4: a few years now, really, and even unto the last 437 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 4: year of Ben Roethlisberger, it wasn't really the Ben Roethlisberger 438 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 4: as we knew in the prime, right, So they've had 439 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 4: to play football basically going. We got to manage the 440 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 4: offense and just find ways to chew up the clock 441 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 4: and run the ball more than we should and be 442 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 4: boring as hell on that side of the ball. And 443 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 4: then we got to find ways to create turnovers and 444 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 4: do shit on the defense side of the ball, because 445 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 4: that's how we're gonna have to win the game. And 446 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 4: we gotta find a way to block a punt because again, 447 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 4: our offense isn't gonna score touchdowns all that much. That 448 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 4: won't be a problem anymore with Aaron Rodgers. I first off, 449 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh with DK Metcalf, the offensive line can continues to 450 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 4: get better as long as they don't let him hold 451 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 4: the offense hostage and make it the Aaron Rodgers offense. 452 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 4: And he plays a little bit like he did at 453 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 4: the end of the year last year where he hung 454 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 4: in the pocket, he threw the ball down the field. 455 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: He was a little aggressive that way. If he can 456 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 4: do that right and they can get him to do that, 457 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 4: I go, oh, watch out for Pittsburgh because Pittsburgh's defense, 458 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 4: it was number twelve in football last year. 459 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: It was better than that. It's a better defense than that. 460 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 4: But when you have to always manage through the offense 461 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 4: and do stuff like that, the defense has to maybe 462 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 4: call some defenses it doesn't really want to call to 463 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 4: make something happen. 464 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: It gets worn out. 465 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 4: Because Russell Wilson's gone three and out seven times in 466 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: a row, so they start to wear down that way. 467 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna help out the whole football team. 468 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 5: And of course he's a better option than Mason Rudolph 469 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 5: Stu Gott's. I consider you the master of the take, 470 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 5: and I want to get your opinion on this take. 471 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 5: It's Mike Tannebaum on get up talking about Aaron Rodgers. 472 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll make a bull prediction, Greedy. 473 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 3: I think Aaron Rodgers could be irrelevant by Thanksgiving. 474 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 1: Irrelevant Irrelevant, That's ridiculous. 475 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 3: That's how you take though. 476 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't see that happening. I mean, first off, 477 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 4: this it'll always be relevant. It doesn't matter. 478 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 2: You can make himself relevant just by taking a microphone. 479 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: Well, they're always relevant with Johnny. Who the hell cares 480 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 4: who the quarterback is. I mean, it doesn't matter. 481 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 3: So I have a hard time thinking that now. 482 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 4: The point is is it not that they be relevant, 483 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 4: it's just gonna be like I joke around like early 484 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 4: December the last few years with the Steelers, where I'm like, 485 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, don't let them in the playoffs. 486 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a boring ass wild card game. 487 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 4: And if they upset somebody in the wildcard game, oh, 488 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 4: it'll be even more of a fucking horrible travesty in 489 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 4: the divisional game. Right, So I've been like, oh, I 490 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 4: don't want to see them in the playoffs. 491 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 3: That's the way. 492 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 4: Now with this guy, I think our thoughts will change 493 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 4: and will go WHOA. I think they can have some 494 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 4: balance on offense. He can make some plays with his arms. Still, well, 495 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 4: they might be able to make some waves, win a game, 496 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 4: maybe win two in the playoffs, do something like that. 497 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 4: That's where I'm excited with Pittsburgh and Aaron Rodgers. I'd 498 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 4: be shocked if they're irrelevant by Thanksgiving. 499 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. 500 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: Erin is still a guy christ You saw it last 501 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: year the final ten games. He was really good second 502 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 2: year off the Achilles. Aaron Rodgers is still a guy 503 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: to your point, in the playoffs or in a big spot, 504 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: can go out and win you a football game. 505 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: No doubt. Ye. And he's gonna be able to lead 506 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 3: the team that way. 507 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 4: He's not going to be Oh gosh, it's a big 508 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 4: playoff game for the Steelers. The matchup he has and 509 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 4: the combination with DK Metcalf, I think could be really cool. 510 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 4: Dk Metcalf's been a guy up in Seattle that hasn't 511 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 4: had the ball fed to him as much as he should. 512 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 4: Rogers usually his stars, and that's where I think he'll 513 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 4: little quick screens, the slants, all that, the fades, the 514 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: back shoulders, when even DK Metcalf is covered, that's right 515 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: in Rogers wheelhouse. And I like that combination. And they 516 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 4: just got to figure out that TJ. Watt contract situation. 517 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 4: So that's not a distraction going into training camp, because yeah, 518 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 4: people are gonna be You're asking a lot of questions 519 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 4: and the media is gonna be there. 520 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 3: They'll have enough distractions to deal with. Because Aaron Rodgers 521 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 3: is in town. 522 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 2: We'll get you at here in a few minutes. Josh 523 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: Allen flag football wants to be the flag football quarterback. 524 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: Howbout you win a Super Bowl first? Huh, Well that's 525 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: how you take Taylor. 526 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, of course. 527 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: And well, Josh Allen, I you know again, another guy 528 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 4: that I've got a little history with to know that 529 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 4: he's obsessed with wanting to win a Super Bowl, obsessed 530 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 4: like it's. 531 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 3: He's a freak of nature. Jim Ratt. 532 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 4: Just like Burrow and Mahomes where like they're in the 533 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 4: facility all. 534 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 3: Day every day. 535 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: That guy just wants to play football in any form. 536 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 4: That's where it's different, right, right, So, Like I know 537 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 4: what you're saying, like the hell with the gold medal 538 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 4: and all that this has win a Super Bowl. But 539 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 4: I think he's a little bit like that, Like you're saying, 540 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 4: like I just want to play. I want to play 541 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 4: a game. I want to play golf, I want to 542 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 4: compete in this, I want to do that. I want 543 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 4: to hit home runs in a softball tournament. Yes, he's 544 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 4: kind of that guy that way. Uh but but and 545 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 4: he would fit. I mean flag football, Josh Allen? What 546 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 4: throwing lasers from the back of the end zone to 547 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: the other end zone on every play like that would 548 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 4: be unbelievable to watch. 549 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 2: Sim do you want to go to like Tahoe this 550 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: year with me? What do you think we'll hang out with? 551 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: Josh Allen? 552 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: Me and you? 553 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: I I listen, this year's on your crying out loud. 554 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I know, I know, but damn, I got 555 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 4: a break and I you know, I just I'm like, 556 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 4: I want to just have a break. That's but but 557 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 4: like this year was the first year I kind of 558 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 4: was a little bit like, huh yeah, maybe I should 559 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 4: go out there and you know, see some of the 560 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 4: guys and hang out with that asshole Stu Gotts. 561 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 3: But I don't know if that's gonna happen quite yet. 562 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: Perhaps I can up the ante and offer Billy Billy 563 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: will come with us. 564 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 4: Okay, well that's a deal breaker. I won't be coming. 565 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 4: How about Mike ya we get there. 566 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: Mike Yay, I'm there. Do you bring Taylor? 567 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 4: Maybe I'll think about it too, you know, Billy should 568 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: There's only so much I could. 569 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: Take how old is your son? By the way, how 570 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: old is your son? 571 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 4: Now? He's in eighth grade, going into freshman year next year, 572 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 4: he's fourteen. 573 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 2: Hey, tell me he should do his own quarterback rankings 574 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 2: and if he needs my help, I'll help him out. 575 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: Okay, you should do that. 576 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 3: Yes, interesting, he's always picking anything I do. Apart. 577 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 4: The first time I ever got a compliment really from 578 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 4: him was this past offseason. 579 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: Wow, that's nice. 580 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, at the. 581 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 4: End of the year, you know, And of course, so 582 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 4: much of his life, like most team fourteen year olds, is, 583 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 4: did you know, is dictated by what it says on 584 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 4: social media? Of course, yes, But he took a lot 585 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 4: of flak from his friends last year and two years 586 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 4: to go in the draft process when I made Molik 587 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 4: Neighbors and Brian Thomas junior better than Marvin Harrison junior, right, right, 588 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 4: had he was coming home. 589 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 3: Like, Dad, my friends think you're an idiot. Right, You're 590 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: an idiot. 591 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 4: And so when we got to the end of this year, 592 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 4: it was like, hey, dad, Dad, I mean, you you 593 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 4: got your receiver rankings. Man, you were you were awesome, Dad, Dad, 594 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 4: you were awesome. I mean people are giving you a 595 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 4: lot of props on Instagram, right, yeaw, you know TikTok man, 596 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: you're getting props dad. Yeah, so that was like the 597 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 4: you know a thing or two about football, Dad. I mean, yeah, yeah, 598 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 4: every now and then I get that. But ageat the 599 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 4: Mahomes thing. I've told you the Mahomes story right with 600 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 4: the forty nine ers before, as you know, as we 601 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 4: end up here. Have I ever told you that in 602 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: the first Super Bowl? 603 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 2: I think you have. If you haven't, just tell it 604 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: again so the audience could hear it first. 605 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 3: Super I mean, of course, we're family friends with the Shanahans. 606 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 4: My son's known the Shanahan family since he was a 607 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 4: little you know baby, so they're close to us. The 608 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 4: forty nine ers are in the Super Bowl. We're excited. 609 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 4: It's the forty nine ers. So we're all sitting there 610 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 4: and all week leading up to the game. Even though 611 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 4: my son loves Mahomes, he's like, man, Dad, it's so cool. 612 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 4: I mean, it's so cool. Your best friend are friends 613 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 4: the Shanahans. They're in the Super Bowl, the forty nine ers. 614 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 4: This is amazing. Oh my gosh, Dad, it's so cool. 615 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 4: I can't wait for the game, you know, and I 616 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 4: want to go to like that SpongeBob thing. 617 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: Right. 618 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 4: Four days later, okay, and the game is twenty to 619 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 4: ten with seven minutes and we're watching the sewer room. 620 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: My son throws his phone and he gets up. He's like, 621 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 3: fuck the forty nine ers with Kyle, I can't believe 622 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: Mahomes is gonna lose the Super Bowl. And he storms 623 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 3: out of the room crying like it's over. I can't 624 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 3: believe it. I can't believe it. 625 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 4: And then of course, all of a sudden, it's too 626 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 4: jet wasp but as zoom and zoom and zoom, and 627 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 4: he's back in the room and he's. 628 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, Homes ooh, And I was like, man, what 629 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 3: happened to the Shanahans. Holy crap? Right, So we've had 630 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: a lot of fun with that. 631 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 4: I've told Kyle Shanahan that he's gotten on him a 632 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 4: little bit too. 633 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: So his friendship extends out to yeah, his friendship extends 634 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: out to don't beat Mahomes exactly. 635 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 3: Right, exactly right. 636 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 4: And that's where Kyle Shanahan and the Shanahan family are 637 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 4: very cool and realizing like, hey, he's a kid, he's 638 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 4: got an idyl that he loves, and we understand it 639 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 4: so funny stories. 640 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: Always Taylor, get the Sun on the show, on the show. 641 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: I want his quarterback rankings. Get him on the show 642 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: next week, and get him with Billy if you get 643 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: because Billy will have a field day with him. Two 644 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 2: quick quarterbacks before you get out of here, I want 645 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: your thoughts, Caleb Williams, what do you think this year? 646 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 4: I'm expecting big yeah things. Yes, I mean I'm a 647 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 4: Kleb Williams fan. I wasn't perfect last year, but as 648 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 4: I've told you during the season and stuff, I saw 649 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 4: things from him where. 650 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: I go that's special. Like there's not many people in 651 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 3: football that can do some of the stuff he can do. 652 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 4: I think now with Ben Johnson, a better environment for 653 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 4: quarterback play and learning and the talent around him, like 654 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams is a guy that has the type of 655 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 4: talent to me to jump up there with some of 656 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 4: those core four guys that we talked about. I don't 657 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 4: know if it happens this year, but I will be 658 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 4: more shocked if it's not a good year. Then I 659 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 4: would be shocked if it was a bad year. Okay, 660 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 4: I will be shocked if it's bad. I expect Caleb 661 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 4: Williams and the bear to be a pain in the 662 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 4: ass in the NFC. 663 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: Bo Nicks, I think bow Knicks has a chance to 664 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: be special. He has a chance to be in that 665 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: top four someday. What do you think I do too? 666 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 4: I mean Drew Brees Junior over there, That's what I've 667 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 4: kind of joked around and call him all the day. 668 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 3: But he can run, Yeah, he can run. He can run. 669 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 4: His arms more powerful and explosive than people realize. I 670 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 4: know from knowing some people out there in Denver that 671 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 4: they're very excited about their football team. 672 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 3: They already had one. 673 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 4: Of the best defenses in football. They've added a few 674 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 4: players on that side, and you go, ooh, that could 675 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 4: be special. And then the offense year two, Sean Payton 676 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 4: now gonna be able to put more on the plate 677 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 4: to bow Knicks more at the line of scrimmage, really 678 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 4: wire him the way he sees fit. I would be 679 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 4: shocked if that doesn't get better. And Denver's a major 680 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: player in the ANFC. The crazy thing that they're dealing with, 681 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 4: and I've said this on my show a few times, 682 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 4: it might be the greatest four coaches in one division 683 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 4: in the history of. 684 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: Football, no doubt. 685 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 4: I mean that's where it's no easy pickings to just say, oh, yeah, 686 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 4: they're gonna win the AFC West or getting the playoffs. 687 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 4: I mean, holy crap. When Pete Carroll and the Raiders 688 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 4: are the fourth team, that's when you know there's some 689 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 4: some damn good stuff in the rest of the division. 690 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: What are you expecting? You you played quarterback at Texas. 691 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: There's a picture behind me at you coming off the field, 692 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: a young Chris Sims hanging out with Matthew Mcconiughey, do 693 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: you remember that picture? 694 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: Do you remember that game you did? 695 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: That was? That was Texas? 696 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 4: That was my senior year Texas, A and m right 697 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 4: last game on the field, really and we just you know, 698 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 4: we whooped the crap out of them, fifty three twenty four. 699 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 3: I want to say, yep. And yeah, he was. 700 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 4: He was on the sidelines of a lot of a 701 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 4: lot of home games and was always great to me. 702 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 4: Really couldn't have been more supportive. So he was really 703 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 4: cool to be around. 704 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: Are you excited for Arch? 705 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: What am I. 706 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 4: Excited for Arch? I'm so excited for Texas in general. Yeah, 707 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: just the team, the way it's set up. I know, 708 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 4: they got it rolling. 709 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 3: We're spent. 710 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 4: Like we joked about at the end of the college season, 711 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 4: and remember I told you college football was gonna start. 712 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 3: To change rules. 713 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeahcause they knew. 714 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 4: Texas and Notre Dame in Michigan and Ohio they're gonna 715 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 4: outspend everybody. 716 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: Yep. 717 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 4: We made a big deal about twenty million of Ohio 718 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: state last year. Texas is spending forty yeah, and it 719 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 4: ain't shit to us, all right. It's literally like, wait, 720 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 4: oh wait, we got forty in a pocket right here. 721 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 3: Boom, there you go. Right, So that's where it's scared. 722 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 4: And that's where you hear all the big time durs 723 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 4: in the SEC because they're worried about the rest of 724 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 4: the conference. 725 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 3: They're like, we're gonna change the rules. We gotta get 726 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 3: a salary cap, we gotta get the. 727 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 4: Government involved to change the whole landscape. Yeah, they're scared, 728 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 4: they know. And the Longhorns got it all and they'll 729 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 4: spend the money. And the coach is awesome, and we 730 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 4: got a quarterback that we looks like he's gonna be awesome, 731 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 4: and the type of quarterback where all the other kids 732 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 4: in the country go, I want to go to that 733 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 4: school and play with that quarterback and that's where it 734 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 4: can be awesome. And yeah, I think it's big things 735 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 4: happening down there in Longhornville. 736 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 5: I actually have a sound of Christopher mad Dog Russo 737 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 5: this week trying to say, Matthew mcconnie. 738 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 6: I got to here and she didn't have to say 739 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 6: that because you know, everybody said great things about her, 740 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 6: including Obama, including lebron. You know everybody, including Matthew McGahee. 741 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 6: I mean everybody said great things. 742 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 4: McGahee, Matthew mcgae That was also the same one where 743 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 4: he could he was saying what Mogito's right. 744 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 3: I actually have that sound too. 745 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 7: Ahead June means summers in full swing and total wine 746 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 7: and more as your go to for beach days, barbecues, 747 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 7: everything in between, whether you're inviting friends over or just 748 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 7: enjoying the sunshine. Thousands of wine, spirits and beers at 749 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 7: the lowest prices, mixing up mogitas, margarita's and something totally new. 750 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 4: Scott megeta magitas logitas, like I can't I see Chris 751 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 4: Russo every now and then. I can't wait to get 752 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 4: on them for that. Like there's miss speaking at all 753 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 4: that but you're not that dumb to call. 754 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 3: Mihidos the wrong word. 755 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 4: I mean Ben Taylor, by the way, like I never 756 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 4: has any of these mikey A or dumb Billy ever 757 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 4: played clips from anything. Ever, what a great addition you 758 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 4: are to the show to actually contribute something unlike Billy 759 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 4: way to go. 760 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 5: To We actually had Mad Dog on earlier this week 761 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 5: and he dropped this line, I love Taylor. 762 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 3: Now, Simson said, Billy's gonna be outraged. You know, good 763 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 3: Billy who is what I said? Ah? 764 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but Billy who you love? 765 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 4: Billy? 766 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: It's the greatest sports you and Billy Gill. 767 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, exactly right. He's versus the Marlins. 768 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: You spent some time with Michael Pettis Jr. 769 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 4: Hut, I actually didn't I be ass go. I mean 770 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 4: I sat on a plane for five hours, right, That's 771 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 4: what I did. 772 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: And here's why it all went downhill. 773 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 4: So this is where, like in Delta Airlines, the airline 774 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 4: industry is archaic and some of the stuff they fucking 775 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 4: do it's like embarrassing. We're about to pull away from 776 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 4: the gate. The pilot literally is like we're about the taxi. 777 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 4: We're gonna get into Atlanta ten to fifteen minutes early 778 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 4: comes back on the speaker like two minutes later. He's like, well, 779 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: the guy that does the fuel log wrote down the 780 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 4: wrong number on the paper, so we gotta wait for 781 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 4: him to come back. And you know me, I wanted 782 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 4: to stand up and be like, are you serious We're 783 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 4: waiting for a guy with a clipboard in a paper. 784 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 4: It's two twenty twenty five. We can't just like take 785 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 4: a picture of the miles and put it into an 786 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 4: iPad and it goes into a system, like we're gonna wait, 787 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 4: like it's nineteen seventy two, Like come back down and 788 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 4: write it down for us. We waited for thirty minutes 789 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 4: for that fucking guy. And then you know how LaGuardia 790 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 4: Airport works. Now we're number sixty in the takeoffline to 791 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 4: take off because we've missed our time, and then storms 792 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 4: rolled in and so I sat there forever. I'm so 793 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 4: sick of flying. I hate the airlines. I hate him. 794 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 4: That's such a bullshit excuse. 795 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 2: By the way, I mean, no one has to walk 796 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: anything to anybody. 797 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 3: It's actually incredible, it's incredible. 798 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: I want your son on next week and perhaps a 799 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: weekly segment. That's okay, is there. 800 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: Any chance your dad walked off of the field after 801 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 2: winning the Super Bowl and he thought, and maybe even 802 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: said it out loud, I'm fucking better than John Elway. 803 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 4: No, no, there's not, there's not. But I guarantee he 804 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 4: might have walked off. He was in the Disney World, 805 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 4: and then he might have been like, I'm a fucking man, 806 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 4: right he said. 807 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: That, Well, one guy won the MVP and it wasn't 808 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: John Elway, So no. 809 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: It wasn't. But let me just say like that, that's where. 810 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 4: And I use my dad for these examples a lot 811 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 4: because I just want to show people that there's not 812 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 4: biased and this stuff has been personally involved in my 813 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 4: life and I can overcome these things. And my dad, 814 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 4: who was awesome at football, can also be like, hey, 815 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 4: I was awesome, but this guy was awesomer, all right, 816 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 4: all right, So there and to this day, like, I mean, 817 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 4: I know how special he thought John Elway was. 818 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 3: Going into that Super Bowl. I mean we we all did, 819 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 3: of course. 820 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,959 Speaker 4: And then to this day, every now and then he'll 821 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 4: watch back the game or whatever and he'll just be like, 822 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 4: holy crap, I mean, damn, that first half, John Elway, 823 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 4: Holy crap, I mean we're we're lucky we won the 824 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 4: damn game. 825 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 3: Holy shit, John Elway. Hole. I mean so that just 826 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 3: we at one point in the. 827 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,959 Speaker 4: Football world, we could go like, even though this team 828 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 4: was winning, we know this quarterback's better, but we I 829 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 4: blame Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. They changed that forever 830 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 4: because everybody just thought, well, the team, it's always them, 831 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 4: it's got to be them, blah blah blah, and it's 832 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 4: just got to be winning. There to me change that narrative, right, 833 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 4: which will. 834 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 3: You know me? 835 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 4: I want to go, But wait, New England when they 836 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 4: didn't have Tom Brady, they were fifteen and five with 837 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 4: other guys playing, but it was a team. 838 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 3: But they're the ones that change that narrative. 839 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 4: And where we just go quarterback quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, 840 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 4: And that's where it's gone a little overboard in my opinion. 841 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: What does Father's Day look like for you this Sunday? 842 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: Chris silence? 843 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 3: Yeh know, it's Father's Day. You hit your busy part two, right, 844 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 3: that's what I call it. 845 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, I wake up and my wife tells me 846 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 4: what we're doing on the day for me right, and 847 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 4: your kid ripped your quarterback. So it's like yeah, oh yeah, 848 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 4: oh yeah, that's I do want to go do that today? 849 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 3: That oh that's great, fucking a. I just want to 850 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 3: sit on the couch and watch the golf. That's what 851 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 3: I want to do. 852 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 2: So do as for that, say that's what you want 853 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: for your gift this Sunday for Father's Day. 854 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: I want the gift of silence. 855 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 4: Everyone leaveing anybody even bring up Father's Day in my household. 856 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 3: So they don't care to meet. I'm not sure they 857 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 3: remember it's coming. 858 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 2: They're not PFD with Mike Florio every day on Peacock 859 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 2: the Unbuttoned Podcast Football Night in America. It was a 860 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 2: vacation for you of sorts without having Billy here. So uh, 861 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,439 Speaker 2: enjoy it because he'll be back next week. 862 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 4: Okay, I will. I will enjoy it, all right, guys. 863 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 4: Always good being with you, Taylor. You the man way 864 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 4: to bring someone in the show, buddy. Thank you, all right, buddy, 865 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 4: all right. 866 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: But happy Father's Day to you. Happy Father's Day to 867 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: your dad. 868 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 3: But man, have fun you too. Thanks a lot, man, 869 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 3: I appreciate that you got it, buddy. See you, buddy,