WEBVTT - Godzilla: Monster Island Summer Camp 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:19.000 Hello. My name is Jason Concepcion and welcome back to 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.840 X ray Vision, the podcast where we dive deep into 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:25.000 your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. Coming to 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.640 you from iHeart Podcast, where we're bringing you to two 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:34.400 action packed episodes every Tuesday and Thursday. On this very 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:38.000 special episode, I will be interviewing Rosie Knight ever heard 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:42.199 of her in comics illu shirtter Oliver Ono about their 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:46.080 latest project, Godzilla Monster Island Summer Camp, which is out 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:52.440 now wherever you get your comic books. We're delighted to 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.440 welcome to the program Rosie Knight, who co hosts the 0:00:55.440 --> 0:01:01.120 program How is Me and her creative collaborate Ali Rono. 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.600 It is so great to have you here, Oliver, thank 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:05.520 you for joining us. 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.080 Always a pleasure. Thanks so much for having me back on. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.000 It's been what two years since the last time. 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:15.240 Right, Yeah, unbelievable, But it's now and it feels really 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:18.680 wild because we would always be when the book hadn't 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.080 been announced. Me and Jason would always be like teasing 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.200 it on the Xtra Vision. We'd be like, Rosie has 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.280 something but we can't say what it is. But now 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.880 the book is coming out in like you know, six 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:29.880 days or something. So it's really fun to be able 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:31.800 to kind of celebrate it with you guys. 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.640 How did Godzilla Monster Island Summer Camp come to be? 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.520 Well, I so a while ago, like a couple of 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:43.080 years ago. Now, idw and Tohoe with trying to find 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.400 a way to do like kids Godzilla comics that they 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.640 really wanted to do like a middle grade book or 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:51.120 a kind of more youth focused graphic novel. So I 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:55.960 pitched this idea of Manila's Manila Godzilla's Sun going to 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:59.080 summer camp and kind of this adventure, and in my 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:01.640 head I visualized this like one panel of him wearing 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.120 like a little you know, like a little hat, like 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.520 he's like a camper and he's got a neckerchief on, 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.000 and that was really like and it's in the book 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:11.800 and it's my favorite page and it was the first 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.040 page that I visualized. So then like a year after 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:16.919 I pitched it, I heard back and they were like, 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:20.080 we're going to do it, and me and Oliver were like, oh, okay, cool, 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.480 that's sick, And then we started working on it and 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.640 it was but it was definitely an extension of what 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:30.720 we started with Rivals with Battra because we came to 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.359 find because we've still been doing signings for that book. 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.080 We've been still speaking to people about that book, and 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:40.600 we really found that the audience was a lot younger 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.680 than some of the other Rivals books, Like kids really 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:45.919 liked that book, and we were definitely channeling that kind 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.080 of slower studio ghibli vibe, but with cool monsters. So 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.560 I think this is just like an extension of that. 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:56.760 Oliver, what was when the story and the idea was 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:02.120 presented to you, did you have any ideas about like 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:06.040 the artistic palette, the things that you wanted to see immediately, 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.239 Like what what kind of ideas popped into your head? 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.600 Yeah, so it definitely came when when Rosie brought it 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.720 to me. I brought up the idea. At first, it 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.480 was she just kind of feeleded it, like hey, like 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:18.680 just so you know, I I put in this story 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:23.040 for like Godzilla's Sun goes to like summer camp and 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:25.720 then he just has like a good time. And at 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:27.760 the time, you know, it was I think that was 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:32.680 like right after we finished up Batra, and I was like, 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.120 that is the weirdest story ever. I don't know how 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:39.000 it's gonna get made. But yeah, that sounds that sounds lovely. 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.200 That sounds like a nice mix up, and especially with 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.320 with Batcher, it was, uh that was it was such 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.560 a like a muted palette. It was kind of a 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:51.240 dark story. It was, you know, Bacher's like like one 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:55.560 of the more goth sides of of of the Kaiju. Definitely, 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.680 so it was definitely a challenge to to shift in. 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:05.040 But I after drawing like a like a gray English 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:11.160 seaside town, like, it was definitely a fun idea to 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:15.400 like jump into something that was gonna be very very poppy, 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:20.240 breezy sort of situation, you know. So yeah, I mean 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:24.480 that definitely just the idea of trying to make it 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:29.240 feel as warm and summery as possible like that. That 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.400 that affected the color palette, and that's I think one 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.880 of the one of the biggest things that we've gotten 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.960 feedback on from everyone is people people talk about how 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.320 the colors came together and and made the whole book 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.760 feel just that that that summer ReVibe, you know. 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.880 Yeah, that's everyone who's We got a great quote from 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.720 the fantastic Stephanie Williams, who I love, who is behind 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.000 some comics like Nubia and Mungo Double Dinosaur, and that 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:57.640 was the first thing. She was like, it's like this 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.720 hazy summer vibe and I was like, yes, I want 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.640 people to read it and just feel like that breeze 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:07.920 in the air and wanting to be at Monstrawland summer Camp. 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:09.240 You know, that was the big thing, and all of 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.640 it just absolutely smashed it. Also, Oliver, why don't you 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.400 talk a little bit about, like, what was it like 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.400 redesigning Manila for the book? Because he has like a 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.640 very distinct and ugly look and I love him, but 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:22.719 he does so like, what was it like trying to 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.839 reimagine him for the for this audience and this book. 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.560 Yeah. So I mean, of course, like I've come into 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:35.599 being a big general Toho Godzilla fan throughout working on 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.560 all these projects, but largely I was coming from outside 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:43.120 the fan base when I started, and so I think 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:46.760 I have this kind of like third party viewpoint, or 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.120 at least I did now Now the more that I 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:50.920 do it, the more I'm like, no, it should look 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.359 exactly how it looks in the movies. I'm kind of 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:58.080 in that, but but yeah, I mean coming into it 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.400 knowing that it's going to be four kids and a 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:04.560 lot of kids these days, unless unless they are you know, 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.640 the kids, the grandkids of the original fans that watched 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.039 you know, Manila as as a kid. You know, they 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:14.680 have that same sort of viewpoint. And Manila again is 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:20.880 lovably ugly, but definitely ugly, you know. So I knew 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.000 that I wanted to kind of soften them up a bit. 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.479 And it's always a weird thing trying to make you know, 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:32.640 even I think about what the original designers of the 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:37.880 suits were thinking, and it's not like they created the 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.160 exact thing that was in their heads either. They were 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.320 trying to come up with this feeling of like a 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:47.080 little Godzilla, And so I think pivoting and thinking about 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:50.520 it from that point and seeing how I can refine 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.560 still the same energy that was originally that in those 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:58.600 old suits, but also turn it into something that maybe 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:02.600 couldn't exist in real life and sheep wise simplify it 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.640 down and give him a little bit more like character. 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.280 So it was a balance of trying to keep it 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.520 even even with the original old design, but also trying 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.080 to kind of revamp it so that it would be 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.760 accessible to like a broader audience. So they wouldn't be like, Ooh, 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.160 what's this weird guy? They there's at least like oh 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.120 because he's a weird guy, but he's also like a 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:24.600 cute weird guy, you know what I mean. 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:30.040 You mentioned kind of the the cute factor, the warmth 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.600 of the book, in the color palette, and the design. 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.960 How do you make I mean, there's monsters in this book, 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:40.160 and some scary ones, but how do you how do 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.120 you make cute scary monsters? 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:42.240 Like? 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:46.160 What is your strategy for doing that? Because I think 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.760 it's one of the things you've really accomplished, is creating 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.880 this like warm, inviting story that also contains scary monsters, 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:57.640 but that appear they fit within the overall design world. 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.800 Yeah, you know it. It's one of those things I 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:05.760 didn't wanna. I didn't wanna. Certainly, the monsters are still 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.840 very much like the monsters from the movies, like and 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:14.800 I wanted overall the world to still be like just 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:20.720 that full Toho kaiju world with big implications, big big consequences. 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.200 It's just that our story takes place in kind of 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:29.080 a happy corner of that world, you know what I mean? So, yeah, 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.199 I I didn't Other than other than again, I kept 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.560 the I kept the colors very fun and honestly, like, 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:38.920 at least with like uh eby Rah, he was still 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.280 very much I mean, I'm almost I almost made him 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:44.360 even a little more chunky and gnarly looking, you know. 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:47.760 But I don't know. I I think I I think 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.440 I did lean on the colors a lot. I think 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.880 I think that maybe all of the all the all 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:56.119 the monsters look a little bit more like the animals 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.560 that inspired them in the first place as well. I 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:02.200 did push them more in that like, oh, this is 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:06.160 like the real like the real counterpart of that of 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.200 that Kaiju, the real animal counterpart, and it's just a 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:12.040 big version. But yeah, I don't know. I think I 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.800 think the colors do a lot to do that. Well. 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:16.920 Were it back after a short break to talk more 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.080 Godzilla Monster on the summer Camp and ros you know, 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.800 and we're back, tell us a little bit more about 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.560 the story set it up. We understand that it's a 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.880 summer camp story, but how did the story take shape? 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.240 So I was like, where what would be cute? That 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.559 was definitely my first thought, like what do I want 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:51.280 to read and what would be cute and what would 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.560 be good for all of his art. So I thought 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:57.360 of this kind of classical idea of the American summer camp, 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:59.960 of the kind of you know one that you see 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.960 movies where it could In the daytime, it looks so 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.440 beautiful and it looks like it could be from you know, 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:11.559 a cool movie that you would want to go there, 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:13.400 but at nighttime you're like, oh it could. This is 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.520 also where Friday the thirteenth could be set. You know, 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:17.920 those are my real touchstones. Is kind of more of 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.679 a movie experience. I never went to an American summer 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:24.240 camp because I didn't grow up in America, but those 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.200 were my touch points, and I really wanted to tell 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.360 a story that was basically just about kids having a 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:32.840 good time. I wanted to have disabled leads. I wanted 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:37.160 to have them in this unexpected space. Because the general 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.480 setup of the book is Zelda, who's our main character, 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:42.720 goes to this camp, thinks it's going to be an 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:44.960 art camp where she can make comics all summer, and 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:46.719 then she gets there and it's been taken over by 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:50.160 like a nefarious corporation. So instead of make it summer camp, 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.800 it's more ink summer camp. And those were two Those 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.000 were the kind of first things I set up was like, 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:58.000 how can I have this summer camp have the same 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.600 initials as Monster Island. I was like, it has to 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.800 have that, and I was thinking a lot about There's 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.520 this old Disney movie that I just really really loved 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.120 called Heavyweights with Ben Stiller, and he plays this kind 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.840 of evil He's like an evil fitness guy who goes 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.439 to a fat camp and tries to make all the 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.719 kids lose weight, and they kind of rebel against him. 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:22.200 So that was definitely in my mind, but I wanted 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.760 to take it more to that futuristic kind of sci 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:28.160 fi space where more Ink was. Their version of being 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:33.120 a corporation was very brutalist and very much like destroying nature. 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.120 And then I was thinking, you know, what's the biggest 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:37.719 ecological threat? 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:38.280 Now? 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.040 You know, when the original Godzilla was made, it was 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.360 a response to the nuclear bomb, so I was like, oh, well, 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:46.079 it has to be fracking, you know. So that was 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.800 kind of where I where it all started, and it 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.760 was just such a joy to write it and to 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.239 get to know that Oliver was going to draw it 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.880 meant that I could really be specific in the things 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.520 that I wanted to bring to life that I knew 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.800 he would be great at like the monsters, and also 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.559 like he draws the coolest clothes, so all the kids 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.920 have these like super rad outfits. 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:07.200 You know. 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.960 This is the one where I feel like maybe in 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.679 like five years, we could be at a comic con 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:16.520 and we'd see someone in like a version, like a 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:18.960 chill version of one of the costumes, because they like 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.320 the way the kids are designed so well. And Oliver 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.240 really brought that energy of like when you watch a 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.079 cartoon and people either always dress in the same colors 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.520 or they have the same costume every time, like Bart Simpson. 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.320 So I think it still has that vibe where they 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.480 all have a very clear aesthetic and even at the 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:37.679 end of the book where we kind of see a 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:39.840 little bit of the future, they still have that. And 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.560 I just thought it was so cool and also just 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:47.120 to get to write a book that is so out 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.599 of any kind of continuity like we and know that 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.240 kids are going to get to find it and explore it. 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.440 And we've had like really lovely feedback. We did a 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.840 really cool event in Chicago that Music Box Theater. They 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:02.319 did a giant Godzilla filmfest there that was so fantastic, 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.920 and my friend Katie Riiche was a brilliant programmer and 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.120 film critic, invited us to go and be there, and 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.880 we tabled at the film festal like one in the 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.560 morning from eleven in the morning and gave out like 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.959 hundreds of little zines about this, and so many people 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.360 were just so excited to see Manila. I mean, we 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.839 are in a Godzilla renaissance for sure. And it was 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.000 so funny because when the book was announced, so many 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.120 people were just like, oh my god, I would wish 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.480 I could make this, Like I love Manila so much, 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.080 and they're doing like all these cool fan arts in Manila. 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.560 I found so many great different artists through the book 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.520 being announced, and some people were like, hey, let Minilla 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.560 be ugly, and I was like, I get it, man 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:41.920 I love that little ugly guy, like I've got him 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.840 tired on my body. But like, Oliver drew a cover 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:48.560 for this book that is so enticing. I feel like 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.480 it has such a pick up ability factor, and I 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:55.600 think that's because of how beautiful his Manilla is and 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:59.040 then how cool Ramiko, Wheezy and Zelda, who are our 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.760 main cast, look on that front cover, like you want 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:03.480 to be there, you want to be on this adventure 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.360 with them. So yeah, I'm really excited for people to 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:07.400 get to read the whole thing. 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:09.880 I wanted to talk about the outfits. Do we have 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:15.280 a favorite outfit from Oliver the book? 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.720 Okay, my favorite outfit of anyone in the book that 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.160 I wrote in the script. I wrote such a funny, 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.800 silly thing in the script. It's there is a moment. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.760 There's two moments where Manila is in disguise, right, and 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.680 the first one is the first one is my favorite 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.600 outfit because I was like in the script, I was like, Oliver, 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.480 He's going to be in skis like that classic you know, 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:40.560 Raphael in Ninja ta Ors, the thing in Fantastic four, 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.160 like RoboCop, that classic thing where you put on a 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:44.880 trench coat and you put on a hat and nobody 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.000 can recognize you. So Oliver did that, and he did 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.080 a version where it's like a baseball cap with sunglasses. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.640 So you also have that Avengers costume where whenever the 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.440 Avengers are in civilian attire, they just wear aviators in 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:00.760 a baseball cap. And then Manila has the the trench 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.760 coat and that that image is just makes me laugh 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.880 every single time. So like the humans have cool outfits. 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:10.240 But for me, it's definitely that like Manila in Disguise. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.920 He looks so sassy like and obviously it's a dinosaur, 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.120 but that's the magic of storytelling. You know, nobody can 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:17.640 nobody can recognize him. 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.000 Oliver, you have a favorite, you know? 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:24.320 I yes, like definitely and and also just to add 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:28.000 with with the Manila in Disguise outfit, like I also 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:33.040 with those sunglasses. I always loved the squirrel squad from 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:36.320 like the first the Persons, and yeah, so I gave 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.760 I gave him the Squirrels squad sunglasses. Those are definitely 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:46.840 this yeah uh. But at the same time, I also personally, 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:52.160 I really like there's a midway through outfit that Roomy 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.800 co wears with like the cut off like jersey with 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:59.280 the three on it, And yeah, I really like that one. 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.800 Uh uh? Which is it? There's a few, a few 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.840 like small details. That was I think probably the most 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:08.760 detailed one, but it was the one that I wanted 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.520 to You know, anytime that you're adding all this stuff, 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.560 it ends up being you regret it by the end. 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.280 By the end, like yeah, because you have to keep drawing. 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.800 But like that one was like her little like hype 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:21.120 beast outfit like. 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:23.440 Cool. 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:24.960 Yeah. I gave her like the three on the front 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.240 of the jersey because I always liked Hey Arnold growing 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:32.080 up and Gerald wears Gerald wears that like uh sweatshirt 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.320 with the three on it and Uh. I made like 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.040 a little a little her shorts have and I think 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.440 also the jersey has has it. I made like a 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:45.200 like a spoof Nike thing where it says Meeky that's 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.880 that's like the name of the boy from uh from uh? 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.320 Which one I always get the two the two Manila 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:51.840 movies mixed up. 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.080 Yeah, yeah, it's it's in or monsters there it is, 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.160 It's yeah, it's your Yeah, So I love that. 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.600 I wanted to put a little lots of there's lots 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.640 of little Easter eggs if you, if you, if you 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.840 read into it. But but yeah, that was probably my 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:08.480 favorite one. 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.280 I definitely think your favorite hair was Wheezy's hair. You 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:16.200 love drawing that hair is like so outrageous. Yeah, you 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.960 love like a giant ball of hair. 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.480 Let's say, Uh, somebody picks this up and they love it, 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:29.840 but maybe they're not versed in Godzilla lore in the 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:35.280 way that y'all are. What's the next place they should turn. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:39.400 If they're like I love this, What's the next Godzilla 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.120 project that I should check out? 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.760 I think definitely the Rivals series. There's so many different 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:48.879 types of storytelling, so I think that anyone who enjoys 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.439 Godzilla could find a story for them that. Obviously our 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:55.280 Batra issue is very similar in tone, but all of 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.200 the Godzilla Rivals books, which I believe there's now three 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.080 volumes of Round one, Round two, and Round three, they 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:05.919 all have really great cool in in roads to Godzilla. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.680 I would also say, like, watch the old movies. Obviously 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:10.920 we are dreaming that we I already have like two 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.800 sequels planned out if they did, if it does well 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.159 enough that people want to read them. But I think Rivals. 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:19.399 There's also a Godzilla comic called Monsters and Protectors, which 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:23.040 is like kind of a more Ya vibe, and I 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.040 like a lot of the rules that we had to 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:28.040 follow for this, like the Monsters, how Zelda communicates with 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.840 the monsters and stuff. Monsters and Protectors was kind of 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.639 a framework because they of what they were allowed to do, 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.200 then we could probably do a similar thing. But honestly, 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.359 Toho was like super chill, like the funniest note that 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.919 I've ever gotten was from this project and it was 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.000 one of like three notes Toho gave and it was like, 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:48.600 Godzilla can't do a thumbs up. I was like, I've 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.199 seen him do it on the TV, but no, Godzilla's 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:55.119 like very uh, He's very serious in this book, I 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.359 will say, I mean the book is called Godzilla, so 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.359 as you could have met Godzilla, monster and someone, as 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:01.280 you can imagine, Zilla is in the book. And I 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.040 do want to say, if you're listening to this and 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.960 you have kids, or you're a teacher, or you're a librarian, 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.080 please read this book. I would love that that is 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:10.119 the aim of the book. But if you are an 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:15.720 adult who loves Godzilla and wants to see really cool, intricate, 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.920 fantastic Godzilla, are also read this book because when Godzilla 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:23.199 shows up, the way Oliver brings Godzilla to life is 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.399 just so fantastic. And some of those pages I still 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.320 just look at in total awe. And there is also 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:31.960 mechs because Oliver always has to draw a mix, so 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:35.119 we found we found a way to build those mechs 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:38.080 in So yeah, I do think really IDW has done 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:41.480 a great job. One of our favorite artists James Stoko. 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.800 He did a very iconic Godzilla story there, which, even 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:50.000 though it's very tonally different, I would say if you 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.919 like the idea of seeing different artists just getting to 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.520 go hamm and kind of have an auta vision his 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.640 Godzilla books, like he did the issue Godilla in Hell 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.280 and he did godzill one thousand Year War, and those 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:04.560 are just so fantastic. So there is a Smaugas board 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:08.840 of fantastic Godzilla storytelling, and we're hoping that this will become, 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:10.639 you know, a part of it. We've had a lot 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:13.080 of really cool feedback from people being like, hey, you 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.119 should turn this into an anime or something, and me 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:17.320 and Oliver are like, yes, please please do that. 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.800 Like we would see so many people when we when 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.600 they announced it, like because I think it they just 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:26.359 they initially and I think you had to read further context, 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:30.639 but initially they just dropped the cover and so so 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:32.960 many people thought it was straight up like just the 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:36.280 poster for like a new anime series, and I was like, okay, 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:41.480 job job, job, job done. Like we've putting our little 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:45.240 tendrils into the into the possibilities here, So yeah, it'd 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.000 be really cool though, Well, were it. 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.560 Back after a short break to talk more Godzilla Monster 0:20:49.600 --> 0:21:07.000 Own Summer Camp with Rosy and yeah, and we're back. 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:12.240 The book is fantastic and it's been so wonderful to 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:17.359 have you both here. And we end every episode with 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:21.399 variety of fast moving segments. Today, Oliver, we're gonna do 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:24.399 Who's Who, and I'm gonna ask you for your favorite 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:28.080 Let's say, do you want to do three your power ranking? 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:28.800 Your favorite? 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:35.280 Your three favorite obscure kai Jews slash monsters of any type, okay, 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:38.240 of any kind, not even obscure, just like your top 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:40.200 three favorite Kaiju slash monsters. 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.560 And this is in general, this is this is this 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:47.359 in general. So outside of Toho as well, anywhere have one. 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:52.200