Speaker 1: Hello. My name is Jason Concepcion and welcome back to
Speaker 1: X ray Vision, the podcast where we dive deep into
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Speaker 1: special episode, I will be interviewing Rosie Knight ever heard
Speaker 1: of her in comics illu shirtter Oliver Ono about their
Speaker 1: latest project, Godzilla Monster Island Summer Camp, which is out
Speaker 1: now wherever you get your comic books. We're delighted to
Speaker 1: welcome to the program Rosie Knight, who co hosts the
Speaker 1: program How is Me and her creative collaborate Ali Rono.
Speaker 2: It is so great to have you here, Oliver, thank
Speaker 2: you for joining us.
Speaker 3: Always a pleasure. Thanks so much for having me back on.
Speaker 3: It's been what two years since the last time.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, unbelievable, But it's now and it feels really
Speaker 2: wild because we would always be when the book hadn't
Speaker 2: been announced. Me and Jason would always be like teasing
Speaker 2: it on the Xtra Vision. We'd be like, Rosie has
Speaker 2: something but we can't say what it is. But now
Speaker 2: the book is coming out in like you know, six
Speaker 2: days or something. So it's really fun to be able
Speaker 2: to kind of celebrate it with you guys.
Speaker 1: How did Godzilla Monster Island Summer Camp come to be?
Speaker 2: Well, I so a while ago, like a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago. Now, idw and Tohoe with trying to find
Speaker 2: a way to do like kids Godzilla comics that they
Speaker 2: really wanted to do like a middle grade book or
Speaker 2: a kind of more youth focused graphic novel. So I
Speaker 2: pitched this idea of Manila's Manila Godzilla's Sun going to
Speaker 2: summer camp and kind of this adventure, and in my
Speaker 2: head I visualized this like one panel of him wearing
Speaker 2: like a little you know, like a little hat, like
Speaker 2: he's like a camper and he's got a neckerchief on,
Speaker 2: and that was really like and it's in the book
Speaker 2: and it's my favorite page and it was the first
Speaker 2: page that I visualized. So then like a year after
Speaker 2: I pitched it, I heard back and they were like,
Speaker 2: we're going to do it, and me and Oliver were like, oh, okay, cool,
Speaker 2: that's sick, And then we started working on it and
Speaker 2: it was but it was definitely an extension of what
Speaker 2: we started with Rivals with Battra because we came to
Speaker 2: find because we've still been doing signings for that book.
Speaker 2: We've been still speaking to people about that book, and
Speaker 2: we really found that the audience was a lot younger
Speaker 2: than some of the other Rivals books, Like kids really
Speaker 2: liked that book, and we were definitely channeling that kind
Speaker 2: of slower studio ghibli vibe, but with cool monsters. So
Speaker 2: I think this is just like an extension of that.
Speaker 1: Oliver, what was when the story and the idea was
Speaker 1: presented to you, did you have any ideas about like
Speaker 1: the artistic palette, the things that you wanted to see immediately,
Speaker 1: Like what what kind of ideas popped into your head?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it definitely came when when Rosie brought it
Speaker 3: to me. I brought up the idea. At first, it
Speaker 3: was she just kind of feeleded it, like hey, like
Speaker 3: just so you know, I I put in this story
Speaker 3: for like Godzilla's Sun goes to like summer camp and
Speaker 3: then he just has like a good time. And at
Speaker 3: the time, you know, it was I think that was
Speaker 3: like right after we finished up Batra, and I was like,
Speaker 3: that is the weirdest story ever. I don't know how
Speaker 3: it's gonna get made. But yeah, that sounds that sounds lovely.
Speaker 3: That sounds like a nice mix up, and especially with
Speaker 3: with Batcher, it was, uh that was it was such
Speaker 3: a like a muted palette. It was kind of a
Speaker 3: dark story. It was, you know, Bacher's like like one
Speaker 3: of the more goth sides of of of the Kaiju. Definitely,
Speaker 3: so it was definitely a challenge to to shift in.
Speaker 3: But I after drawing like a like a gray English
Speaker 3: seaside town, like, it was definitely a fun idea to
Speaker 3: like jump into something that was gonna be very very poppy,
Speaker 3: breezy sort of situation, you know. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: that definitely just the idea of trying to make it
Speaker 3: feel as warm and summery as possible like that. That
Speaker 3: that affected the color palette, and that's I think one
Speaker 3: of the one of the biggest things that we've gotten
Speaker 3: feedback on from everyone is people people talk about how
Speaker 3: the colors came together and and made the whole book
Speaker 3: feel just that that that summer ReVibe, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's everyone who's We got a great quote from
Speaker 2: the fantastic Stephanie Williams, who I love, who is behind
Speaker 2: some comics like Nubia and Mungo Double Dinosaur, and that
Speaker 2: was the first thing. She was like, it's like this
Speaker 2: hazy summer vibe and I was like, yes, I want
Speaker 2: people to read it and just feel like that breeze
Speaker 2: in the air and wanting to be at Monstrawland summer Camp.
Speaker 2: You know, that was the big thing, and all of
Speaker 2: it just absolutely smashed it. Also, Oliver, why don't you
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about, like, what was it like
Speaker 2: redesigning Manila for the book? Because he has like a
Speaker 2: very distinct and ugly look and I love him, but
Speaker 2: he does so like, what was it like trying to
Speaker 2: reimagine him for the for this audience and this book.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I mean, of course, like I've come into
Speaker 3: being a big general Toho Godzilla fan throughout working on
Speaker 3: all these projects, but largely I was coming from outside
Speaker 3: the fan base when I started, and so I think
Speaker 3: I have this kind of like third party viewpoint, or
Speaker 3: at least I did now Now the more that I
Speaker 3: do it, the more I'm like, no, it should look
Speaker 3: exactly how it looks in the movies. I'm kind of
Speaker 3: in that, but but yeah, I mean coming into it
Speaker 3: knowing that it's going to be four kids and a
Speaker 3: lot of kids these days, unless unless they are you know,
Speaker 3: the kids, the grandkids of the original fans that watched
Speaker 3: you know, Manila as as a kid. You know, they
Speaker 3: have that same sort of viewpoint. And Manila again is
Speaker 3: lovably ugly, but definitely ugly, you know. So I knew
Speaker 3: that I wanted to kind of soften them up a bit.
Speaker 3: And it's always a weird thing trying to make you know,
Speaker 3: even I think about what the original designers of the
Speaker 3: suits were thinking, and it's not like they created the
Speaker 3: exact thing that was in their heads either. They were
Speaker 3: trying to come up with this feeling of like a
Speaker 3: little Godzilla, And so I think pivoting and thinking about
Speaker 3: it from that point and seeing how I can refine
Speaker 3: still the same energy that was originally that in those
Speaker 3: old suits, but also turn it into something that maybe
Speaker 3: couldn't exist in real life and sheep wise simplify it
Speaker 3: down and give him a little bit more like character.
Speaker 3: So it was a balance of trying to keep it
Speaker 3: even even with the original old design, but also trying
Speaker 3: to kind of revamp it so that it would be
Speaker 3: accessible to like a broader audience. So they wouldn't be like, Ooh,
Speaker 3: what's this weird guy? They there's at least like oh
Speaker 3: because he's a weird guy, but he's also like a
Speaker 3: cute weird guy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You mentioned kind of the the cute factor, the warmth
Speaker 1: of the book, in the color palette, and the design.
Speaker 1: How do you make I mean, there's monsters in this book,
Speaker 1: and some scary ones, but how do you how do
Speaker 1: you make cute scary monsters?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What is your strategy for doing that? Because I think
Speaker 1: it's one of the things you've really accomplished, is creating
Speaker 1: this like warm, inviting story that also contains scary monsters,
Speaker 1: but that appear they fit within the overall design world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it. It's one of those things I
Speaker 3: didn't wanna. I didn't wanna. Certainly, the monsters are still
Speaker 3: very much like the monsters from the movies, like and
Speaker 3: I wanted overall the world to still be like just
Speaker 3: that full Toho kaiju world with big implications, big big consequences.
Speaker 3: It's just that our story takes place in kind of
Speaker 3: a happy corner of that world, you know what I mean? So, yeah,
Speaker 3: I I didn't Other than other than again, I kept
Speaker 3: the I kept the colors very fun and honestly, like,
Speaker 3: at least with like uh eby Rah, he was still
Speaker 3: very much I mean, I'm almost I almost made him
Speaker 3: even a little more chunky and gnarly looking, you know.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I I think I I think
Speaker 3: I did lean on the colors a lot. I think
Speaker 3: I think that maybe all of the all the all
Speaker 3: the monsters look a little bit more like the animals
Speaker 3: that inspired them in the first place as well. I
Speaker 3: did push them more in that like, oh, this is
Speaker 3: like the real like the real counterpart of that of
Speaker 3: that Kaiju, the real animal counterpart, and it's just a
Speaker 3: big version. But yeah, I don't know. I think I
Speaker 3: think the colors do a lot to do that. Well.
Speaker 1: Were it back after a short break to talk more
Speaker 1: Godzilla Monster on the summer Camp and ros you know,
Speaker 1: and we're back, tell us a little bit more about
Speaker 1: the story set it up. We understand that it's a
Speaker 1: summer camp story, but how did the story take shape?
Speaker 2: So I was like, where what would be cute? That
Speaker 2: was definitely my first thought, like what do I want
Speaker 2: to read and what would be cute and what would
Speaker 2: be good for all of his art. So I thought
Speaker 2: of this kind of classical idea of the American summer camp,
Speaker 2: of the kind of you know one that you see
Speaker 2: movies where it could In the daytime, it looks so
Speaker 2: beautiful and it looks like it could be from you know,
Speaker 2: a cool movie that you would want to go there,
Speaker 2: but at nighttime you're like, oh it could. This is
Speaker 2: also where Friday the thirteenth could be set. You know,
Speaker 2: those are my real touchstones. Is kind of more of
Speaker 2: a movie experience. I never went to an American summer
Speaker 2: camp because I didn't grow up in America, but those
Speaker 2: were my touch points, and I really wanted to tell
Speaker 2: a story that was basically just about kids having a
Speaker 2: good time. I wanted to have disabled leads. I wanted
Speaker 2: to have them in this unexpected space. Because the general
Speaker 2: setup of the book is Zelda, who's our main character,
Speaker 2: goes to this camp, thinks it's going to be an
Speaker 2: art camp where she can make comics all summer, and
Speaker 2: then she gets there and it's been taken over by
Speaker 2: like a nefarious corporation. So instead of make it summer camp,
Speaker 2: it's more ink summer camp. And those were two Those
Speaker 2: were the kind of first things I set up was like,
Speaker 2: how can I have this summer camp have the same
Speaker 2: initials as Monster Island. I was like, it has to
Speaker 2: have that, and I was thinking a lot about There's
Speaker 2: this old Disney movie that I just really really loved
Speaker 2: called Heavyweights with Ben Stiller, and he plays this kind
Speaker 2: of evil He's like an evil fitness guy who goes
Speaker 2: to a fat camp and tries to make all the
Speaker 2: kids lose weight, and they kind of rebel against him.
Speaker 2: So that was definitely in my mind, but I wanted
Speaker 2: to take it more to that futuristic kind of sci
Speaker 2: fi space where more Ink was. Their version of being
Speaker 2: a corporation was very brutalist and very much like destroying nature.
Speaker 2: And then I was thinking, you know, what's the biggest
Speaker 2: ecological threat?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: You know, when the original Godzilla was made, it was
Speaker 2: a response to the nuclear bomb, so I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: it has to be fracking, you know. So that was
Speaker 2: kind of where I where it all started, and it
Speaker 2: was just such a joy to write it and to
Speaker 2: get to know that Oliver was going to draw it
Speaker 2: meant that I could really be specific in the things
Speaker 2: that I wanted to bring to life that I knew
Speaker 2: he would be great at like the monsters, and also
Speaker 2: like he draws the coolest clothes, so all the kids
Speaker 2: have these like super rad outfits.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: This is the one where I feel like maybe in
Speaker 2: like five years, we could be at a comic con
Speaker 2: and we'd see someone in like a version, like a
Speaker 2: chill version of one of the costumes, because they like
Speaker 2: the way the kids are designed so well. And Oliver
Speaker 2: really brought that energy of like when you watch a
Speaker 2: cartoon and people either always dress in the same colors
Speaker 2: or they have the same costume every time, like Bart Simpson.
Speaker 2: So I think it still has that vibe where they
Speaker 2: all have a very clear aesthetic and even at the
Speaker 2: end of the book where we kind of see a
Speaker 2: little bit of the future, they still have that. And
Speaker 2: I just thought it was so cool and also just
Speaker 2: to get to write a book that is so out
Speaker 2: of any kind of continuity like we and know that
Speaker 2: kids are going to get to find it and explore it.
Speaker 2: And we've had like really lovely feedback. We did a
Speaker 2: really cool event in Chicago that Music Box Theater. They
Speaker 2: did a giant Godzilla filmfest there that was so fantastic,
Speaker 2: and my friend Katie Riiche was a brilliant programmer and
Speaker 2: film critic, invited us to go and be there, and
Speaker 2: we tabled at the film festal like one in the
Speaker 2: morning from eleven in the morning and gave out like
Speaker 2: hundreds of little zines about this, and so many people
Speaker 2: were just so excited to see Manila. I mean, we
Speaker 2: are in a Godzilla renaissance for sure. And it was
Speaker 2: so funny because when the book was announced, so many
Speaker 2: people were just like, oh my god, I would wish
Speaker 2: I could make this, Like I love Manila so much,
Speaker 2: and they're doing like all these cool fan arts in Manila.
Speaker 2: I found so many great different artists through the book
Speaker 2: being announced, and some people were like, hey, let Minilla
Speaker 2: be ugly, and I was like, I get it, man
Speaker 2: I love that little ugly guy, like I've got him
Speaker 2: tired on my body. But like, Oliver drew a cover
Speaker 2: for this book that is so enticing. I feel like
Speaker 2: it has such a pick up ability factor, and I
Speaker 2: think that's because of how beautiful his Manilla is and
Speaker 2: then how cool Ramiko, Wheezy and Zelda, who are our
Speaker 2: main cast, look on that front cover, like you want
Speaker 2: to be there, you want to be on this adventure
Speaker 2: with them. So yeah, I'm really excited for people to
Speaker 2: get to read the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about the outfits. Do we have
Speaker 1: a favorite outfit from Oliver the book?
Speaker 2: Okay, my favorite outfit of anyone in the book that
Speaker 2: I wrote in the script. I wrote such a funny,
Speaker 2: silly thing in the script. It's there is a moment.
Speaker 2: There's two moments where Manila is in disguise, right, and
Speaker 2: the first one is the first one is my favorite
Speaker 2: outfit because I was like in the script, I was like, Oliver,
Speaker 2: He's going to be in skis like that classic you know,
Speaker 2: Raphael in Ninja ta Ors, the thing in Fantastic four,
Speaker 2: like RoboCop, that classic thing where you put on a
Speaker 2: trench coat and you put on a hat and nobody
Speaker 2: can recognize you. So Oliver did that, and he did
Speaker 2: a version where it's like a baseball cap with sunglasses.
Speaker 2: So you also have that Avengers costume where whenever the
Speaker 2: Avengers are in civilian attire, they just wear aviators in
Speaker 2: a baseball cap. And then Manila has the the trench
Speaker 2: coat and that that image is just makes me laugh
Speaker 2: every single time. So like the humans have cool outfits.
Speaker 2: But for me, it's definitely that like Manila in Disguise.
Speaker 2: He looks so sassy like and obviously it's a dinosaur,
Speaker 2: but that's the magic of storytelling. You know, nobody can
Speaker 2: nobody can recognize him.
Speaker 4: Oliver, you have a favorite, you know?
Speaker 3: I yes, like definitely and and also just to add
Speaker 3: with with the Manila in Disguise outfit, like I also
Speaker 3: with those sunglasses. I always loved the squirrel squad from
Speaker 3: like the first the Persons, and yeah, so I gave
Speaker 3: I gave him the Squirrels squad sunglasses. Those are definitely
Speaker 3: this yeah uh. But at the same time, I also personally,
Speaker 3: I really like there's a midway through outfit that Roomy
Speaker 3: co wears with like the cut off like jersey with
Speaker 3: the three on it, And yeah, I really like that one.
Speaker 3: Uh uh? Which is it? There's a few, a few
Speaker 3: like small details. That was I think probably the most
Speaker 3: detailed one, but it was the one that I wanted
Speaker 3: to You know, anytime that you're adding all this stuff,
Speaker 3: it ends up being you regret it by the end.
Speaker 3: By the end, like yeah, because you have to keep drawing.
Speaker 3: But like that one was like her little like hype
Speaker 3: beast outfit like.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I gave her like the three on the front
Speaker 3: of the jersey because I always liked Hey Arnold growing
Speaker 3: up and Gerald wears Gerald wears that like uh sweatshirt
Speaker 3: with the three on it and Uh. I made like
Speaker 3: a little a little her shorts have and I think
Speaker 3: also the jersey has has it. I made like a
Speaker 3: like a spoof Nike thing where it says Meeky that's
Speaker 3: that's like the name of the boy from uh from uh?
Speaker 3: Which one I always get the two the two Manila
Speaker 3: movies mixed up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's in or monsters there it is,
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's your Yeah, So I love that.
Speaker 3: I wanted to put a little lots of there's lots
Speaker 3: of little Easter eggs if you, if you, if you
Speaker 3: read into it. But but yeah, that was probably my
Speaker 3: favorite one.
Speaker 2: I definitely think your favorite hair was Wheezy's hair. You
Speaker 2: love drawing that hair is like so outrageous. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: love like a giant ball of hair.
Speaker 1: Let's say, Uh, somebody picks this up and they love it,
Speaker 1: but maybe they're not versed in Godzilla lore in the
Speaker 1: way that y'all are. What's the next place they should turn.
Speaker 1: If they're like I love this, What's the next Godzilla
Speaker 1: project that I should check out?
Speaker 2: I think definitely the Rivals series. There's so many different
Speaker 2: types of storytelling, so I think that anyone who enjoys
Speaker 2: Godzilla could find a story for them that. Obviously our
Speaker 2: Batra issue is very similar in tone, but all of
Speaker 2: the Godzilla Rivals books, which I believe there's now three
Speaker 2: volumes of Round one, Round two, and Round three, they
Speaker 2: all have really great cool in in roads to Godzilla.
Speaker 2: I would also say, like, watch the old movies. Obviously
Speaker 2: we are dreaming that we I already have like two
Speaker 2: sequels planned out if they did, if it does well
Speaker 2: enough that people want to read them. But I think Rivals.
Speaker 2: There's also a Godzilla comic called Monsters and Protectors, which
Speaker 2: is like kind of a more Ya vibe, and I
Speaker 2: like a lot of the rules that we had to
Speaker 2: follow for this, like the Monsters, how Zelda communicates with
Speaker 2: the monsters and stuff. Monsters and Protectors was kind of
Speaker 2: a framework because they of what they were allowed to do,
Speaker 2: then we could probably do a similar thing. But honestly,
Speaker 2: Toho was like super chill, like the funniest note that
Speaker 2: I've ever gotten was from this project and it was
Speaker 2: one of like three notes Toho gave and it was like,
Speaker 2: Godzilla can't do a thumbs up. I was like, I've
Speaker 2: seen him do it on the TV, but no, Godzilla's
Speaker 2: like very uh, He's very serious in this book, I
Speaker 2: will say, I mean the book is called Godzilla, so
Speaker 2: as you could have met Godzilla, monster and someone, as
Speaker 2: you can imagine, Zilla is in the book. And I
Speaker 2: do want to say, if you're listening to this and
Speaker 2: you have kids, or you're a teacher, or you're a librarian,
Speaker 2: please read this book. I would love that that is
Speaker 2: the aim of the book. But if you are an
Speaker 2: adult who loves Godzilla and wants to see really cool, intricate,
Speaker 2: fantastic Godzilla, are also read this book because when Godzilla
Speaker 2: shows up, the way Oliver brings Godzilla to life is
Speaker 2: just so fantastic. And some of those pages I still
Speaker 2: just look at in total awe. And there is also
Speaker 2: mechs because Oliver always has to draw a mix, so
Speaker 2: we found we found a way to build those mechs
Speaker 2: in So yeah, I do think really IDW has done
Speaker 2: a great job. One of our favorite artists James Stoko.
Speaker 2: He did a very iconic Godzilla story there, which, even
Speaker 2: though it's very tonally different, I would say if you
Speaker 2: like the idea of seeing different artists just getting to
Speaker 2: go hamm and kind of have an auta vision his
Speaker 2: Godzilla books, like he did the issue Godilla in Hell
Speaker 2: and he did godzill one thousand Year War, and those
Speaker 2: are just so fantastic. So there is a Smaugas board
Speaker 2: of fantastic Godzilla storytelling, and we're hoping that this will become,
Speaker 2: you know, a part of it. We've had a lot
Speaker 2: of really cool feedback from people being like, hey, you
Speaker 2: should turn this into an anime or something, and me
Speaker 2: and Oliver are like, yes, please please do that.
Speaker 3: Like we would see so many people when we when
Speaker 3: they announced it, like because I think it they just
Speaker 3: they initially and I think you had to read further context,
Speaker 3: but initially they just dropped the cover and so so
Speaker 3: many people thought it was straight up like just the
Speaker 3: poster for like a new anime series, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: job job, job, job done. Like we've putting our little
Speaker 3: tendrils into the into the possibilities here, So yeah, it'd
Speaker 3: be really cool though, Well, were it.
Speaker 1: Back after a short break to talk more Godzilla Monster
Speaker 1: Own Summer Camp with Rosy and yeah, and we're back.
Speaker 1: The book is fantastic and it's been so wonderful to
Speaker 1: have you both here. And we end every episode with
Speaker 1: variety of fast moving segments. Today, Oliver, we're gonna do
Speaker 1: Who's Who, and I'm gonna ask you for your favorite
Speaker 1: Let's say, do you want to do three your power ranking?
Speaker 4: Your favorite?
Speaker 1: Your three favorite obscure kai Jews slash monsters of any type, okay,
Speaker 1: of any kind, not even obscure, just like your top
Speaker 1: three favorite Kaiju slash monsters.
Speaker 3: And this is in general, this is this is this
Speaker 3: in general. So outside of Toho as well, anywhere have one.
Speaker 3: I have one very deep cut okay, funky Boy from
Speaker 3: the Redline movie.
Speaker 4: Not aware a funky boy, but his name.
Speaker 3: Come on and and oh yeah, funky Boy from the
Speaker 3: Red Line movie. That that that hits for me.
Speaker 4: Oh funky Boy is quite quite weird looking.
Speaker 3: And I love funky Boy number two very well.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's like a like a golden brain.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a big golden brains. He's trapped into like
Speaker 3: a gelatinous cube. Uh and then and then they drop
Speaker 3: like I think, like an orbital cannon on him. He
Speaker 3: uh oh he's great. Oh number two. Honestly, I love
Speaker 3: Space Godzilla. I really love the design of Space Godzilla.
Speaker 3: I like I like a crystal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like ultimately cool.
Speaker 3: That That is my That is my thirteen year old boy.
Speaker 3: Pick right there. It's just it's just Godzilla, but with
Speaker 3: like extra stuff all over him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, more buff Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's more ribbed. He's been at the gym,
Speaker 3: he's been grinding. Number three number three. Oh, I can't
Speaker 3: remember his name. There's one episode of Space Standy where
Speaker 3: the robot in Sandy like grows massive and becomes like
Speaker 3: a Kaiju when they have a Kaiju fight. That's also
Speaker 3: a weird.
Speaker 2: Also, everyone should go and watch Space Standy like wash,
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 3: Space Dandy, but the robot which I cannot remember his name,
Speaker 3: but he becomes a Kaiju for an episode, essentially like
Speaker 3: a robot Kaiju. Oh qt t there he is. He
Speaker 3: is a cutie. That's true.
Speaker 1: Love that guy, Rosie.
Speaker 4: What about you?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna actually, because I mentioned Godzilla and Hell, I
Speaker 2: always remember the first time I read that book, and
Speaker 2: there's a nuclear reactor demon that's like a demon from
Speaker 2: a nuclear plant that turns into a giant kaiju and
Speaker 2: it is like so creepy and fantastic, and it literally
Speaker 2: like bursts. I remember watching reading the page and it
Speaker 2: like bursts out of the nuclear reactor. It's just so cool.
Speaker 2: So definitely that one that's a comic book hit weird
Speaker 2: I love obviously, Manila is my number one weird kaiju,
Speaker 2: though I feel like now he is like quite far
Speaker 2: from deep cut, so I'm gonna do like you know,
Speaker 2: people love him now like they love that guy. Ibierra
Speaker 2: used to be another one, because like, who doesn't love
Speaker 2: that weird guy? But another, probably my second good weird
Speaker 2: one is in the old Godzilla comics from Marvel, which
Speaker 2: I've been kind of They're rereleasing a lot of where
Speaker 2: Jewels from see Greg Quarters saved me, like the sick
Speaker 2: poster of the first first issue, which they're going to
Speaker 2: be reprinting I think for the first time in a
Speaker 2: long time. In the like issue three, he fights this
Speaker 2: thing that looks like a It kind of looks like
Speaker 2: a mixture between a snake and a venus fly trap,
Speaker 2: kind of like a feed me Seymour Vibe, and his
Speaker 2: name's just like Rheannon. It's like it's like it's like
Speaker 2: our our h I a r h i a h n.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, how do you even pronounce that? But
Speaker 2: it's like his head ends up getting chopped off. But
Speaker 2: I always think he's got like a flying saucer head,
Speaker 2: so I'm always kind of thinking of him. I'll join
Speaker 2: you by doing one like one that I just think
Speaker 2: is really cool. I love like ky Ruver of Meca
Speaker 2: Gozilla where he's got like the guns on his shoulders
Speaker 2: and he's just like, that's my thirteen year old boy.
Speaker 2: Like definitely, Jason, do you have a favorite weird kaiju?
Speaker 1: Oh, gosh, mine are gonna be much less deep cut
Speaker 1: than you. I'm gonna say, Manila, who I originally as Baby.
Speaker 2: Godzilla, Baby Godzilla, Yeah, that.
Speaker 4: Was I think.
Speaker 1: I I think I had. I had a bunch of
Speaker 1: the like sixties and seventies tojo stuff like on vhs
Speaker 1: my dad actually, and that one was just labeled baby Godzilla. Next,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna uh and again apologies if these are not
Speaker 1: the correct name, but the smog Monster from uh oh yeah, Hedora,
Speaker 1: I called him the smog Monster. And what I really
Speaker 1: remember that about that movie was like this Austin powers
Speaker 1: et segments where hetero would like smog g It's like
Speaker 1: oohs over people, and then there'd be like this people, yeah,
Speaker 1: go go dancing and stuff. And then finally Jet Jaguar,
Speaker 1: who is was just like a super cool robot that
Speaker 1: like fought with and against Godzilla.
Speaker 4: In a variety of.
Speaker 1: Funny little end He's a very very cool legend, awesome
Speaker 1: little suit. This was like pre Voltron and in like
Speaker 1: my eyes, like when I later saw Vultron, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: Jet Jaguar. And again these aren't like super deep cuts,
Speaker 1: but they are representative of my history with Kaiju's and Godzilla.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love those picks.
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